Is the Schengen Area Collapsing?
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The Schengen Area faces a crisis with member states reintroducing border controls due to migration concerns. This video explores the challenges and reasons behind the perceived decline of the Schengen Area.
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CORRECTIONS:
There are a number of mistakes in this video:
At 0:09, the map of Schengen area doesn't include Croatia
At 0:21, we use the Icelandic flag instead of the Norwegian flag
At 1:08, the animation dates the Treaty of Rome as 2021, but the narration (correctly) states 1957
At 5:10, we use the Slovakian flag for Slovenia
These are both appallingly sloppy and unacceptably frequent - we can only apologise. If you'd like to know more about our editorial process, and what we're doing to reduce our error rate, we've made a video on it over at TLDR Podcasts here: th-cam.com/video/W2YICfgUET0/w-d-xo.html (specific discussion on animation errors starts at 2:35 - somewhat embarrassingly, we claim that animation-related errors have been "weeded out", when clearly that's not true). Again, we can only apologise, and hopefully you still enjoyed the video.
Your pronoucation of Czechia in 5:11 is inccorect, I even think that it is not Czechia but Czech republic.
At 6:23 - Map outdated, since Czechia and North Macedonia changed their names in 2016 and 2018 respectively.
Even so, I believe that the team's editing skills, script, balance between depth and scope are so much more valuable that these small errors do not threaten the greatness of the content. Furthermore, it's good to know that you are committed to avoiding them and transparent about showing them.
At 0:09 the map is outdated and doesn’t include Croatia
The worst thing about these is that you don't know what the mistake is. Did the presenter misspeak, or has the animator made an error? You don't know what to believe, which is terrible in a news channel relaying important information.
QA!!!!
You didn't mention that Austria voted to let Croatia into the Schengen Area and, at the same time, denied Romania's entry. They claimed the area shouldn't expand, but let Croatia in the very same day. Hypocrisy from the Austrian government should be mentioned in this video.
It's Romania! Most corrupt country in the EU!
I wonder if Bulgaria's & Romania's proximity to Turkey has anything to do with it
@@contrarian8870no, at least not for Romania. It's because of Russia. This is why Bulgaria shouldn't be in package with Romania. Bulgaria also has a huge muslim community
@contrarian8870 This is my own personal opinion. As of 2021, there are 131k Romanians in Austria. Romanians are the second most present foreign nationality after Germans. I think they are trying to seem hard on immigration as Romanians can be seen everywhere in Austria, especially in Vienna. Western countries' populations sometimes associate Romania with thieves. This might be why they're so against Romania joining, but didn't have a problem with Croatia. Unfortunately, this is dumb political posturing because Romanians can come and work in Austria freely anyway. Who knows what Nehammer is thinking.
@AndreiRaduAtanasiu The frustrating part is that most of these "Romanians" are in reality Roma.
I was recently crossing Polish - German border and the German police were interested mainly in busses with people. Cars and tracks were basically flowing freely.
Same in France
you give me an idea...
Border patrol have guidelines.
For cars - check plate, look at the driver and passengers - if any red flags - stop. If not - only one from a certain number of cars are stopped for routine checkup.
For bigger automobiles there are completely different rules.
Didn't even see such activity when I crossed that border twice about a month ago. It was completely open
It's cause they keep sending busses with beggars and thiefes over the border, especially during the christmas season. You see it a lot in Switzerland as well
Saying that Schengen isn't working misses out on a large group of people - visa and residence permit holders. Schengen makes the EU/EEA much more attractive for non-EU passport holders than the UK for example. Accessing the whole block with 1 document is a very big deal for business, tourism, studies and more - whether there are border checks or not.
Schengen is working really well internally, yes there are some small issue with less developed eastern EU members but overall, Schengen is working really well.
The real problem isn't Schengen and isn't the EU's fault, the problem is that we've got a union of open boarders, which means problems of anyone EU members ends up being a problem for all, the issue being is that the EU doesn't have the powers to enforce its external boarders or immigration policy, that's done at a members level, 27 voices pulling in all directions, it's easy to see how it can go wrong.
In the end, if the EU is going to have open boarders internally, the EU needs to be given more powers when it comes to the EU's external boarder and on immigration, at the moment, there's very little the EU can do apart from try to get EU countries to hammer out an agreement, Schengen is just exposing the flaws of having those powers at a national level and not an EU level.
with the UK passport you can freely live and work in any Commonwealth country ( there are 56 of them) incl Australia, Canada, Singapore, New Zealand, Malta etc. So The UK is not a good example. Turkey is a good one.
@@vorong2ru good for those UK Expats(^^) what about those other Commenwealth members? Are they free to work in every other Commenwealth State as well ?
@@vorong2ru for work British passport holders need a visa for Australia and Singapore, work permit for Canada, Malta is in EU so British passport holders need a visa like for any other EU country outside of the 90 day stay allowance in every 180 days (that doesn’t permit work). It might be easier for British nationals to get said visa for country like Australia/Singapore (idk). But it’s not visa free as it is for an EU passport holder that moves to work from let’s say France to Germany.
@@vorong2ru you missed my point entirely :) For people coming over from outside Europe/EU, a visa from any Schengen country allows them to travel/work/tour all Schengen countries. A UK visa only allows them entry to the UK. Passport privilege (or lack thereof) matters a lot here. As much as UK is out of the EU, UK passport privilege remains for most types of travel (and to a large extent for residency).
I understand everyone makes mistakes, but the Icelandic flag is a pretty crazy mistake to make 💀
lmao first thing I thought as well
Its not a mistake. Its purported to generate reactions to the video.
tldr news: "who tf cares about tiny island like iceland?"
@@soundscape26 Trondheim is not in Iceland, it's in Norway.
Why does a frozen food supermarket need its own flag anyway?
The Czechia pronunciation was really noticeable. Normally I've very "each to their own" on how people say things, but on this occasion I genuinely thought I heard Chechnya.
Also, no one calls it Czechia in the actual country
same
@@callumparker2870 Because it's translation of Česko which is used often.
@@fatalitycs I thought it was because that shit stain Zeman made it one of the official names for the country.
@@callumparker2870one of the reasons Czech's are reluctant to use "Czechia", is exactly this: We're worried that even more people will start confusing us with Chechnya. It's recently become an even more sensitive issue due to Chechen fighters' involvement in Russia's aggression against Ukraine.
The three words that always come up when there's something wrong with the EU: "requires unanimous agreement"
Otherwise it would be in ruins by now.
Sure, we should all listen what Berlin or Paris wants.
Yeah it’s problematic, that’s why voting system in general needs to change from Franco German hegemony. A specially because Germany constantly looks for ways to benefit off the other eu states. Reselling gas from north stream, accepting only biogas as target power source, while they are the biggest producer, simultaneously attempting to cut off atom competition. Treating other countries as collateral for their stupid migration decisions.
@@doppel5627False dichotomy
Majority rules baby
As a resident of Poland near the Czech border, I'm dreading any scenario in which border checks between Poland and Czechia are put in place. Because our Polish train network sucks over here, it's actually easier for us to spend time (and money) in Czechia than other towns near us here in Poland. Yes, one could still go across the border with their passport and/or ID, but it would be such an annoying inconvenience (not to mention that the train routes from Czechia that run through here could get cancelled, much like they did during Covid).
A EU deal federalizing rail networks and make them better across borders as well as making high speed trains between big cities can't come fast enough.
@@wile123456We will not give our railways to Brussels
@@Mr.DalekLKI would gladly give Bulgaria's railways to Brussels any day. Our state railway operator BDZ probably has the worst trains in Europe, they're also pretty slow because our network was built or renovated all the way back during the Soviet Era.
PS: They have a complete monopoly, so there aren't any other options.
Better than being swamped with migrants. Think about it
@@Mr.DalekLK The only thing Brussels can oblige country to do is to liberalise railways company (I'm quite against it to be fair) but they aren't going to "control" them. European corporation are going to.
0:08 Croatia is missing on the map tho :/
0:21 Why is there a flag of Iceland on Norway
5:09 That's the flag of Slovakia, not Slovenia
We know that these videos have to be up quickly, but some things are VERY easy to avoid, for example, by just typing out the file name of the flag when importing, rather than doing it using your flag knowledge (or lack of), you can get the flags right
@@SLD-bz9so I mean they could have said Czech republic if they unable to accuretly pronounce Czechia
That shows the incompetenz from Brussels well paid less educated party… we need real change!!!!!!
Oh hi steve whats up fancy seeing u here
@@Nemkellidenev Is it a joke ?
Also Malta is not shown
just a correction. The controls that are reintroduced have absolutely nothing with controls that were before Schengen. I traveled trough most of those country's and didn't stop at any border yet since Croatia was introduced into Schengen. They are looking for illegal migrants so if you are not in a truck or have 10 people inside a car chances of being stooped are almost 0% while before Schengen we waited at least an hour at the border where you had to present your documents
I was stopped going from Slovakia to Austria in a FlixBus, which was annoying
So what? Uh.. So annoying.. Police made a check-control on the BUS I was going.. Omg!!1!! I'm shaking!
...
Grow up.
@@sirsancti5504 Yeah, I agree, could be someone who is smugling people on the bus, or economic migrant smuggled into the bus.
Checks are good, and shengen should be removed. If there were no controls for foods for example (shipments and containers), Netherlands and Belgium would've been destroyed by drugs coming from south America. Police destroy tons of cocain yearly. In Sweden with low control, the criminals, and criminal rate has skyrocketed, which is not a surprise.
Didnt mind the wait must say don't remember it being such a deal,??
The thing is that they've already entered an EU country, so these checks should be tightened at the EU's OUTER borders, not the inner ones.. A good solution to this is better external borders run by the EU so that the excuse for Romania and Bulgaria that their border checks are bad can't be used.
5:10 That is not Slovenia's flag. Unless you are playing into the meme of mixing Slovenia and Slovakia up. Anyways a rather large mistake to mix up countries flags.
reminds me of a professor's anecdote, where he pictured a post-apartheid south african delegation being greeted with the apartheid flag and hymn
Unfortunately this kind of mistake is common for many countries on may channels. I would hope for better from tldr though.
They also displayed Icelands flag for Norway 🤡
Same shit different ass
"Reintroduced border controls" are NOT actual pre Schengen border controls. Those are just random border checks.
I mean, with my current job, i have been driving from France back and forth to Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg and Germany for the past 2 years on a weekly or monthly basic and i have yet to have seen a single control.
Yeah they forgot one little but quite important detail countries didn't put back border controls with every neighboor but just with some like for France with Italy since 2015 (not systematic).
Because you have the right complexion.
@@jasonhaven7170 There is NO check /border ! Do you know what France-Benelux-Germany borders actually looks like ? You cross the street and you have switched country.
That depends a lot, the ones at the Danish border are very stringent, but are also focused largely and near exclusively on the most major roads. A lot of local side roads go across the Danish/German border which have no border control, with usually gets either one of two responses.
1. People call out the authorities for their hypocracy and call the border control nothing but political show to appease racists.
Or 2. People call out the authorities for not doing their job properly and demanding that all border crossings shall have stringent checks on them or be shut entirely to not let any african migrants in.
You say 1957 Treaty of Rome, but the image on screen says 2021 Treaty of Rome.
basically the same thing.
"quality" in this channel never existed
this is getting ridiculous.
People are unnecessarily blaming schengen area for the illegal migration mess. It depends on individual countries. Why does poland, denmark, norway not have the problems that sweden, belgium and france are having.
Pretty easy. Sweden, Belgium and Germany are rich countries with generous welfare systems to exploit that have overly liberal political leadership that welcomes migrants left front and center, while France still has a lot of neocolonies they have control over, so their residents immigrate to France proper. Poland doesn't have this issue because frankly it's not as an appealing destination when you have Germany and Sweden as options. Denmark is more isolated and to get to it you need to go through Germany or Sweden which again, why bother making the trip when you could just say in one of those two. Norway's even more remote and not an EU member, so they have far more control over their borders.
@@mrgalaxy396 They should simply cut down the number of migrants that are let in. Look what happened to Sweden
@@mrgalaxy396 that is true but the danes generally had a lot of anti immigrant approach even back then and I doubt that they would have accepted the immigrants even if the immigrants preferred denmark. Denmark generally has an anti immigration policy. Norway is not an eu member but is still part of schengen and eea and has quite a number of immigrants but the norwegian government has done well in integrating them as compared to the swedes.Poland isn't a popular destination but the anti immigrant party back then wouldn't accept them regardless and also the wider polish population as well. Also the immigrants from French colonies are already born and brought up as French subjects and have the right to move to mainland France. These French colonies were accepted into France even before many of the mainland parts got integrated with France. Germany hasn't really integrated their immigrants as well. France has a lot of immigrants from Algeria and morocco who are sort of familiar with French culture due to historically being colonized but since they practice and come from a different culture they often struggle in europe. Similar situation in Belgium but problems faced in belgium are due to bad governmental policies and lack of integration of these immigrants overall.
@@mrgalaxy396 if germany or sweden rejected these refugees they wouldnt have that problem either. Poland if it was as rich as germany still would've rejected them. I dont see your point
@@nexor7809your right, mr galaxy is wrong. Poland is not attractive because they make it so and Sweden is because politicians deliberately broke laws to import immigrants. Sweden and Merkel ignored the law during Syrian war. It was a thing both left and right governments did all over Europe. It is 100% dependent on the country government. Like the UK didn’t have to Brexit if they just decided to uphold the EU laws in place. They’ve had massive Indian and Pakistani immigration before the EU.
Schengen is doing fine. Every day millions of people cross internal borders for work and more. Sure there are some challenges, but they're but a small part of what Schengen has achieved.
Ahhh, ignorance is bliss...
Don’t dare go outside either.
Schengen makes it so easy for international travelers to explore a lot of Europe. I was in Vienna for a conference and had a couple extra days. Oh look, Bratislava is only a short train trip away. So I zipped over to explore a new country.
are you serious? lol
@@DarkFlareGC in the meantime terrorists and criminal gangs are putting economies and citizens at risk but not to worry, as you say, its so convenient isn't it.
The Crisis is way Bigger really.
The Problem is the EU being unable to Enforce its Rules and the Ability of a Single Country to Block the entire Process Permanently.
Because the EU is a doomed to fail supranational entity intending to erase identities of member states and force an undefined "European" identity...
It's pretty good at enforcing many rules but you don't hear about it because things working isn't newsworthy
You misunderstand, this is by design. If we made the EU able to enforce its own rules people would be up in arms about how the EU is taking their sovereignty and the EU federal state is just around the corner, coming to steal their tax money.
We're just not ready yet, if ever, that's all.
@@tomlxyz The EU doesn't have the powers in these areas, that's where the real problem is, each EU member is doing its own thing, the only two ways to solve this is either all the borders go up which would over the long run make us poorer, or the EU needs to be given more powers to enforce the external borders of the union, as well as immigration policies.
The real problem isn't the EU, it's the actually members with the problem being exposed by having open borders in a union that the EU has little powers in enforcing the outer borders.
The EU is a fundamentally flawed concept yes.
Schengen Area should have internal borders open but the external borders should have border checks & VISAs (with citizens of non-Schengen EU members of Romania, Bulgaria, Ireland & Cyprus should have easier time entering than non-EU citizens in general)
Ah, but should the Schengen Area also be open to gypsies?
That’s what they are literally doing rn. Austria is saying that Romania is subject to corruption and corruption at borders what not solve the problem
@@peterfireflylund
Yes, if they are citizens of any of the EU or Schengen Area countries. No discrimination based on ethnicity please.
External borders have checks.
@@peterfireflylundI mean it’s already open lmao, Spain, Slovakia and Hungary have way more gypsies than Romania and France, the UK and Germany is full of them too
Pronounced Czechia wrong, also you could've mentioned something about Bulgaria's efforts to join the area
Bulgaria doesn't exist.
As long as there is duplicity and pharisaism at the top of the Austrian state, no chance!
Bulgaria is to corrupt, they will never be in the Schengen zone.
Slovenia got Slovak state symbol... TLDR should try that exotic concept called quality control before they release something because stuff like this is in every single episode.
you lads got the icelandic flag for norway, lmao
I notice that too lol
Wrong, they got norway for the icelandic flag
@@aaroncousins4750you literally said the same thing but backwards
@@bababababababa6124 no its different. He got it the wrong way round
And slovakian for slovenia... i dont know if they do that on purpose to have more people complain, or they are just really, really bad with flags.
As far as I know, the borders mostly aren't closed, the police just check "suspicious" vehicles such as vans, the others can usually cross borders without any checks
Hard to understand that Austria is concerned about migration within the EU, while migration from outside the EU is so rampant.
Also it seems anything related to migration / integration in the EU never got anywhere. It's like one of THE topics that's never tackled.
> Nothing related to migration ever goes anywhere in the EU.
It's the same across the pond. US politicians repeat the catchphrase "comprehensive immigration reform" for years, but it never happens.
The "issue" with Schengen is that as soon as you're in an EU country that is part of Schengen, you can basically drive to all other countries within the same area.
They are concerned that people enter Romania and then go to Austria.
Except migration from outside of the EU is not "so rampant". The illegal immigration is a tiny fraction of total immigration. It's just the right fearmongering to gain support.
Look at UK. Their entire campaign relied on the message that EU was letting those damn dirty illegal africans in, and now what?
Nothing has changed. The illegal immigration into UK has not decreased at all in the last 7 years (in fact just last year the UK govt admitted the number of illegal immigrants increased!)
@@Doge811i think austria should get kicked out of schengen
The joke is Austria being concerned about corruption
Huh there's border controls? A month ago or so I drove from the Netherlanda through Germany to Poland and back and haven't noticed anything, must be a really recent thing
Those are not the "problematic" countries. We also drove last week from Hungary, trough Austria, Germany, Holland, into Belgium. No checks whatsoever.
There isn't though. At maximum there is some control with police (like autostop on the border), but it's not an hard border.
Freedom of movement within the EU represents a value of the Union and is a right for every European citizen. The Schengen mechanism must be maintained by strengthening the control at the EU's external borders and by a more active involvement of the Union in resolving conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.
Very well said!
Some boarders are extremely hard or even impossible to control.. like greece or italy.
Boarders like this requires a ridiculus amount of manpower , strict policy and determination to Protect.
Institutions don't have values, people have values. Institutions have ideologies. The EU has sought to impose freedom of movement on the population without any consultation with the people of those countries who largely don't want it and would reject it if they had the chance.
@@twatmunro The European Union is founded on the following values : Human dignity, Freedom, Democracy, Equality, Rule of law, Human rights. Freedom of movement gives citizens the right to move and reside freely within the Union. Individual freedoms such as respect for private life, freedom of thought, religion, assembly, expression and information are protected by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.
Go to Russia buddy !
The eu does not have such a thing as what you call "freedom of movement".
The eu pillar that you are referring to, is the 'free movement of labour'. And it was created for the benefit of multinational corporations. Not for you little plebs. It's real purpose was to enable the multinationals to move management across borders. Then it became useful to move unskilled and cheap labour from eastern europe to the west, to surpress the wages of the working classes in the west after the expansion of the empire.
Your movement will be heavily restricted when they decide to police their pillar to it's actual purpose, which is for labour. And not for pleasure/leisure/travelling at will.
Hi folks: at 8:01 mark you date the Treaty of Rome at 2021 instead of (as I then Googled) 1957. Speaking only for myself, but as a Yank, this was very confusing.
Yankovic
1:08 lol
Please hire a fact-checker already.
- You used the Slovak flag for Slovenia
- Czechia is pronounced with a "k" sound in the middle
And Icelandic flag for Norway
slovenia and slovakia is literally the same thing.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 What ? :D How same ?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922nope, slovenia is richer and more open and less homophobic and more developed than slovakia and other eastern european countries
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Like Austria and Australia
Very much one negative of the shengen area is effective collectively shared immigration control, as minimal regulations in one member for migration from non members allows such migration to freely migrate to their partners', and some countries don't wish to be both symbolically, and sometimes literally, flooded with middle eastern and african immigrants.
To strengthen Schengen, Europe must have a common immigration policy at the EU-level, not the current status-quo where individual EU member nation-states manage their immigration policies towards non-EU citizens.
That's where the real problem is, a union of open boarders internally needs the union head to have the powers to enforce its boarders and immigration policies, which it doesn't have the powers for now.
All Schengen is actually doing is exposing the weaknesses of the members not the EU, but seriously, what on earth made them think you could have open internal boarders whiles the external boarder and immigration policy is handle at a members level, 27 voices all pulling in different directions, it was just asking for a mess and it also ends up meaning that some countries like Italy and Spain don't get the help needed to deal with it, if it was done at an EU level, they likely would get the help needed, it would be much easier to enforce the external boarders and to have a fairer more balanced immigration policy.
Schengen is just exposing the flaws of those powers being in members hands and it's showing all the time how many members argue with each other, that's where the real problem is and there's only two ways to solve it, either give the EU the powers to solve this issue at a transnational level or put all the boarders up, but doing that would hurt our standard of living and make us less economically competitive over the long run, in other words, EU members are going to have to find a solution at an EU level.
The problem is illegal migration.
There’s a third solution, break up the EU into more manageable chunks. Germany, France, and the Lowland nations all could agree on common border policy, but that doesn’t apply to the Mediterranean, Balkan, Nordic, or Eastern states as well. What makes more sense is to abandon the idea of a single over-massive and impossibly bureaucratic EU and instead several more reasonably sized unions which can better advocate for the needs of each block.
@@Jaxck77 I always knew that the current state of the EU would lead them to create different EUs within it, the funny thing is that I don't see it as crazy for the UK to re-enter a less restrictive EU with countries like Germany/Netherlands that doesn't include the countries of the south.
@@segiraldovi I mean at the bare minimum they should make it easier to import goods from UK without extra costs
EU is very polarizing in Norway, but a lot of Norwegian parties are deciding to forward suggestions for assessment of norwegian EU membership and suggest a new EU vote. As people as old as 50 year old hasn't taken a part in the EU vote.
EU isn't polarizing in Norway, as joining it is not even close to being a thing Norwegians want.
Actually leaving EEA (EØS) is more likely to happen, than joining EU.
@@Mosern1977 leaving EEA would be catastrophic for Norways already vulnerable economy.
Norway's largest income (oil company) is "made" viable only through subsidies. And even though the state gains lots of tax income through them, people get poorer.
So Norway needs to become self sufficient, and right now it's absolutely not.
So Norway is very dependent on EEA trade agreement.
@@DefenderX - I'm sure people like to trade with the EU. Its all the other stuff that ruffles feathers.
At the moment I think the no to EEA and yes to EU camps are about same since. So about as likely that one of them happens. (Pretty unlikely at the moment though).
Norway is a great example of how the eu (and its junior, the eea) erode and destroy national democracy. How is it in any way right or fair to impose the smashing up of integrated national state railways, and tender them to the private sector (thereby sending millions of euros/pounds/kroner directly from the taxpayers to private companies) and not have any national means to undo this law (eu fourth railway package), binding upon all incoming national governments! It makes sense to have common and unified rules for cross border traffic. But the eu should have no influence at all on the public services within member states. Especially when that influence is forever binding and forever distructive and financially abusive!!
Can confirm for Croatia: border checks for going into Slovenia is now active for at least 3 weeks
As a Croat, I can tell you we have a very porous border with non-eu countries. Our border is relatevely strict with Serbia, you can illegally pass there only with good connections and/or some bribe. But our borders with Bosnia and Hercegovina are almost free-for-all - you can pass whenever you want wherever you want, no papers needed. You only need some money if you need a ride.
I'd love to see you try
@@stypie3711 I did that few times in last 6 months, in several locations.
Bad country
I crossed into Denmark on Friday, the border is no longer manned, except for freight.
I mean Bulgaria and Romania's external border controlled with non-eu countries could easily be fixed if Austria is complaining about corruption by having EU member countries have border control Officers on that particular checkpoint. Let's have a rotating Western Country border control Authority with their constituent Romanian Bulgarian government officials too it will make a lot easier to fight corruption because quite literally both sides have to work together
Romania's border (the part that is also the EU's external border) is very well defended! There were dozens of European inspections that confirmed this! Romania has invested a lot, purchased drones, thermal cameras, off-road vehicles, IT equipment that are already connected to the Information System of the Schengen Area, etc. The number of immigrants who manage to enter Romania is insignificant compared to those who enter directly into some states that are already Schengen members.
Romania has actually taken action in the EU parliament to denounce austria over their illegal vote (as litteraly every other authoritative figure outside romania except austria called it) and the results are almost uninanimous each time. If the court proceedings go in romania's favour it may or may not set a precedent to undermine a country's veto inside the eu, which would be awsome seeing as to how just one single country can influence the whole union and generate euroscepticism in more than 50 million people.
Isn't euroscepticism mainly rooted in the EU having influence at all? I can't remember someone being against the EU because things don't get done
@@tomlxyzidk of other situations but in the case of Romania, euroskepticism is on the rise after our denial to join Schengen. We really had hope but it was denied to us once again
@@tomlxyz I have always been pro-European, but now I am totally disgusted! The fact that a group of Austrian politicians play Russia's games and steal from us, trying to prevent the development of my country is revolting, but I find it even more revolting that the EU bodies do nothing to correct this injustice. I am tired of their populist statements, in reality they are approving this unfair VETO by their lack of action.
How can a vote be illegal? Or, the other way round: How can a vote with only one legal option be called a "vote"?
@@MareTranquil The "right" to VETO is imposed by force, not by democracy. In a democratic body there should not be. VETO is an appendage of tyranny.
In another overstatement from TLDR News
At 5:10 with that flag, it should be Slovakia and not Slovenia.
As an romanian, it's so frustrating Austria position because it's based on lies and posturing to their xenophobic voters. In the same day when they preached Schengen can't expand, they let Croatia in that's the main route for migrants from Serbia.
They only let Croatia in, because it is a hot tourist destination and it would make it easier for austrian tourists to go there. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
I live in Vienna and while they do not want to let Romania in, streets are crowded by Middle Eastern people. There are entire neighborhoods where the German language is basically useless. You hear Arabic everywhere. You see big groups of young arabs, always males of course, hanging out in corners, on metro stations, without anything to do. The logic of these immigration policies I cannot understand.
@@bellezayverdadI think their logic is “more people make GDP go up”. Ignoring the fact that immigration of these levels will tear the countries apart.
@@bellezayverdad And why is Romania paying for that stupid decision that had nothing to do with us and we are not a part of?
Austria PM's specifically said Romania is the cause for the immigration even thought Frontex clearly specify the "breach" is at Serbia-Hungary and now Croatia border. They don't mention at all about Romania but somehow those dirty romanians are at fault for the failed EU policy taken by Merkel.
This will only give in to the rise of extremists in Romania and Austria and both citizens hating each other for a lie.
@@bellezayverdad And is that our fault? We have nearly 0 Middle East migrants here in Romania because guess why. Most of them come from the South Balkan route or even the Mediterranean Sea. You realize we lost billions of dollars annually for not being in Schengen right? Even the average joe is affected because we get border taxes on even the most basic imported goods FFS. No wonder some ultra nationalists here wanted to bomb Vienna after that vote. People are still really pissed.
1:08 you mentioned 1957 for Treaty of Rome, but you displayed 2021
It is very aggrivating that we (Bulgaria) have been trying to join Schengen for so long, and have been in the EU for nearly 17 years at this point, and 1 or 2 countries are blocking our entry with literally 0 footing to stand on. If the whole of the EU is fine with us joining, you cannot allow 1 country, primarily Austria to block us for 2 years in a row now. We were meant to join last year, then it became this year, now it's 2024 but it doesn't seem that Austria will allow us to join. It's not just the Schengen area, it's also the Eurozone, which we cannot do either. It's putting businesses and people's lives at stake because of 1 member state. It's not easy to change your currency and not knowing if and when that will happen, can be very problematic. It's not just border control, it's the whole economy as a whole that will change.
People's live at stake because of border controls and needing to change currency? A bit exaggerated innit?!
Or do people die from dehydration because of waiting times at the border...?
It's because they have a historic example of what would happen. When you first joined the EU, the UK was one of the few member states who (stupidly) didn't restrict the amount of people from your country who could enter. Nearly all other EU countries activated a clause that restricted how many Bulgarians could enter for the first 5 years. Over 25,000 came in the first year. Within 5 years that had doubled. Another 5 it had trebled and by 2019 there were over 125,000 Bulgarians in the UK.
They were mostly trades (blue collar workers in the construction industry) or hospitality sector workers. Now this bit is important: I don't blame any Bulgarian (or anyone else for that matter) for wanting to migrate to another country to try and earn more and build a better life. But it does have ramifications and the main one (that the EU constantly tries to pretend isn't caused by Free Movement) is that it fucks up parts of the local economy. For two decades the number of indigenous workers in the industries I mentioned got lower and lower as UK citizens couldn't compete with the steep wage drops migrants were willing to accept (after all most migrants earn what they can for 4 or 5 years and then go back to their home country where they can live relatively comfortably with what they've earned).
By the time the UK left the EU and Bulgarians (and others) decided to move on to greener pastures, we had a trades skill shortage in this country because companies had been hiring cheaper EU labour and failing to invest in local training. They found that most of the skilled UK workers had either retired over the course of those 20 years or had migrated themselves to countries like Australia where their skills could still command a good wage.
Freedom of movement is a big shiny con. Your average European thinks it's the thing that lets them have great holidays wherever they like in Europe. Your average European industrialist or corporation thinks it's the great thing that lets them hire cheaper workers than their own and drive down wages.
@@saundyuk A very long and convoluted way of saying a simple thing: UK employers are so cheap they would hire foreigners over local UK people if foreigners are cheaper. UK people would not lower so much to accept dirt jobs that poor foreigners accept, unless they get paid 100 times more than the foreigners that live in the same UK, buying the same stuff. After Brexit, foreigners left and UK was stuck without poor people to do the dirt jobs for little money and UK people were too lazy and proud to do such jobs, unless they get paid a a lot of money, which is not possible because of the greedy UK employers who cannot buy houses and ferraris if they pay people a fair amount. There, I fixed it for you.
@@RaduRadonys It’s not just UK employers. EVERY country where this takes place sees the same things happen. There are plenty of poor people in the UK post-Brexit - the only difference is that this is the first year for a long time where people have stood up for themselves and demanded better wages across a whole load of different sectors and their employers have been less able to turn to cheaper alternatives to undercut their demands for better pay and conditions. their - fixed it for you, too.
Croatia is also part of Schengen :)
Great overview on the state of affaris. However the flickering grid underlay graphics in the blue boxes for the white header titles are very uncomfortable to read for people with photosensitive epilepsy or migraines.
I drive to Slovenia annually, you dont appear to be aware that although they dont not have controls at the borders, everytime driving back (not to Slovenia), both Austria and Germany have checks on the motorway a few miles over the border for security reasons which are permitted and a way for Germany to be in Schegen but effectively have border controls due to the migrant crisis.
Good and informative video. You already saw the colour issue with Norway - Island flag in Tromso. Also: pronounciaion. The "ch" in Czechia is pronounced as "k", not as "cz" - it's not "Chechnya"", which is approx. 1000km more east and with whom the Czech people don't have particularly much in common ;-)
Call it Czech Republic and there wouldn’t be an issue.
You put Slovakia's flag where Slovenia's should be.
Croatia is in Schengen since January 1st of this year and yet it is not marked on the map!
Hey great video. I noticed a small mistake at 1:05, you have the wrong date on display(2021) but you say 1957.
The Schengen area project makes no sense without strong external borders. All boats arriving should be turned back like in Australia regardless of what UN and ECRH say. The might crisis could easily be the end of the EU
The consequences are the same (end of the EU) but to be fair the crisis is more an EU identity crisis than an immigration crisis.
@@alganis3339it's an immigration crisis that is kicking it off otherwise it wouldn't happen
the EU and it's beurocrats will only benefit from it. it's the common people who bear the burden. Low skilled migration dumps labor wages, instability due to culture clashes is responded with an expansion in state and more restriction on citizens.
just look at the Paris terror attacks, what was the responce? more controll in the border to stop the smuggling of weapons? no, of course not just ramp up gun restriction for the law abiding citizens in the shengen zone.
Anything that is pushed through the EU/Shengen takes away from a countries ability to govern itself and as a result makes it harder for the common citizen the influence how he is ruled. It is by design anti democratic
Do you grasp how long and erratic the Mediterranean border is and howmany islands there are? Patrolling it all and stopping all boats is near impossible. Also turn them back to where? The passengers will refuse to say and towing them to a random port is diplomatically problematic at least.
And last. What if the boat is no longer sea-worthy? You let them drown?
It sounds simple, but in practice it isn't. Prove for this is that hard-liner Meloni is not managing either.
I think having proper integration plans for migrants would be better than trying to turn them all away
0:10 Croatia also entered Schengen in 2023.
wait. where is the sound? i only hear static noise throughout the video.
Before Schengen, the three Benelux countries already had open borders. I remember going from Germany to the Netherlands to Belgium. There were border controls leaving Germany but we drove straight into Belgium with not a border post in sight.
I laugh every time when they pronounce Czech as Chechnya the Russian republic :D
Answer: No, but they better start taking things seriously because cracks are showing.
"The answer to every headline ending in a question is no"
Mildly annoyed you used "Toledo to Tromsø", when you have Tavira is southern Portugal for an even longer route :P
Oh no. I wont accept the area collapsing just as we are close to joining. No siree. I demand to speak to the Universe's Manager
The amount of errors in TLDRs videos is ridiculous. I was quite surprised to hear that they are intending to create a print newspaper given their long list of errors - silly mistakes for the most part, that could easily be avoided in most cases. Talk about trying to run before you have learnt to walk.
As a Shengen Area resident, who often travels between the borders via public transport, Shengen is not collapsing and I extremely grateful we have it. The only passport controls I encountered were on borders with Germany, and Sweden (but only during a high terrorist attack risk after koran burnings). And they are nothing compared to real passport checks at f.e. British border. They just take your ID, look at it, and give it back. It all adds maybe maximum of 15min of travel time, while on entering/leaving UK you can spend more than 2h on passport control.
Pre-pandemic, there was a police stop by Spanish cops at the Spanish border, and in France, the border cops boarded my bus before the driver had even started the engine while we sat at the bus station on the way to Italy.
I for one am glad that Croatia is a member of the Schengen zone, it's made my life easier in many small but meaningful ways! If anything more heavy metal bands now come to Zagreb \,,,/
Ensiferum?
Saw them in Zagreb in 2012, i skipped them this year:P
No, it is not "collapsing" - as any even cursory reading of the actual terms of the Schengen Agreement would tell you. Not one of the "signs of collapsing" you listed are new phenomena .Even Romania's current legal challenge to Austria's veto, as you would have also discovered upon reading just the titles of ECJ adjudicated cases going right back to 1986 (less than a year after the original convention was put in place) is simply the last in a long line of such challenges from aspirant Schengen constituents (including Austria itself at one point). And there has never been a point in time since 1999 (when Schengen administration fell completely within the EU jurisdiction) when at least one constituent member wasn't exercising its sovereign right to apply stricter criteria to its own domestic border policy (Belgium being the one who arguably has done this very thing from the moment it signed up to the convention)
I am beginning to think that there is not a single individual in the UK who has ever actually understood the EU. When a channel that purports to "inform" its UK viewers reveals itself to be as ignorant as the most rabid "Brexiter" it doesn't augur well for being allowed to "reintegrate" any time soon, does it?
(PS: The frankly embarrassing inability to identify the correct flags of countries or to place prominent cities within their correct countries is probably a good clue to just how extensively this ignorance applies when it comes to researching and presenting your "facts". Your video was indeed informative, just not in the way you imagined it would be).
I completely agree, this channel has always had a UK biased tilt to how it reports on Europe and the fact is for most British people who wanted to remain in the EU was because they liked having their holidays and second homes here, not because they wanted to integrate fully with a multinational European project. The EU is struggling under the direction of Van Der Leyden, she is an inept pandering bureaucrat with no political vision, but the EU, Schengen and the economic cooperation still remain strong and solid. I say this as an Italian living in France on the border with Spain, not as a little englander pandering to their inescapable ignorance.
It’s not a long of list anything, Romania 100% meets all the criteria to join schengen, Austria imposed more criteria based on lies, how if that not a symbol of weakness ? It shows that every country can do their dirty interests regardless of the rest of the countries, the union is not really an “union” and for this reason the euro skepticism has grown in Romania.
@@dacian_1346 I agree with you about the "lies" bit in your post. As far as I can see Austria's real objection is not so much "fear of illegal immigration", as they claim, as it is them trying to secure leverage within the Council to get other stuff from the EU by way of concessions. And according to the latest accounts the ECJ is of this opinion too, so I cannot see this veto lasting much longer. A bit like when West Germany blocked Austria itself back in the day, in fact (and they ended up paying a large fine iirc).
@@SonOfViking also germany increased border controlls with austria due to the discrimination on romania
The French autoroute has the best roads, so smooth and you can stop at one of the many roadside restaurants and get a croque monsieur.
In Denmark we have had temporary border control for 8 years making it the rule rather than the exception.
One of the biggest advantage of Schengen is one visa holder can travel to all member states, therefore generating more people flow and business. I give you an example Switzerland, it is not a EU member but a Schengen member, so all travellers can go through Swiss with any Schengen visa. If Swiss leaves Schengen and international travellers need to obtain a Swiss visa to enter Swiss, I guess the people flow will be much lower, the loss of income and business would be significant. (even you don't need a visa you still need to through passport control, and that can take much time and put many people off)
Many Eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Romania are not Schengen members but recognize multi-entry Schengen visa so it attracts a lot of business and income.
Now this makes a Schengen visa very powerful and attractive.
If an international traveller was travelling in France with a French visa, he/she is very likely to also go to Germany, Belgium, etc. Same goes for business. He/she will not got to UK because he/she would need a separate visa only for UK and can only use it on that particular island, this makes it much less attractive.
Schengen collapsing would be one of the worst things ever. I fucking love Schengen, more effort just needs to be put into the external borders to satisfy the migration phobic population. I personally don’t care too much about the migration crisis, but will support measures that support holding up the Schengen area
A phobia is only used for irrational fears, the problems with all the illegal migrants is not irrational, just take a look at Sweeden and Germany
You don't care too much because it doesn't affect you personally. But uncontrolled illegal immigration has a series of long term consequences on a social and financial level. States spend a ridiculous amount of money in documenting and integrating these people. Mass uncontrolled illegal immigration correlated with an increase in crime as well. One only needs to look at Western and Eastern EU states. Eastern EU states, who receive less immigrants are generally safer and more crime-free. Western states, with a clear immigration problem, face far more criminal activity and crime-related casualties than the Eastern counterparts. It is not rocket science to admit that the EU immigration policy is a total failure. The Austrian chancellor is right that the Schengen area has failed, but he blames the wrong people for its failure. Less than 1% of illegal immigrants use Romania and Bulgaria as the entry states for Schengen.
“Migration phobic” - this type of thinking is exactly what destroys Europe and renders it unsafe more and more.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth The problem isn't the EU as such, it's that the EU doesn't have the powers in these areas, it has to work with EU members to come up with a deal, the problem is that members are pulling in all direction.
You've got an open door policy in a union where boarders are controlled at national level, it's easy to see where the blame is, it's also easy to see where the solution is, if you're going to have open boarders in a union, the EU is going to need the powers to enforce its boarders whiles also having more powers on immigration policies.
So Schengen isn't the problem, the members are, after all, we've got 27 voices pulling in all directions, what did you honestly expect to happen? The solution is simply, it's weather they can hammer out a deal to make it happen, but big reforms on the EU are needed, this is one area where it's really needed, as well as on veto rules.
If we don't get our act together, it's going to make us poorer and less economically competitive on the world stage.
@@Besthinktwice When it comes to the EU, most countries have a similar categorization, especially for violent crimes. As a Romanian, I only heard the sound of a grenade explosion in civilian areas during our revolution, about 35 years ago. I was surprised to hear it more regularly in downtown Stockholm. Another novelty are the anti-stabbing vests sold in London. I have seen anti-bullet vests during my army days, but anti-stabbing vests for civilians in a 'civilized' country I have not. The less we speak about terror incidents, the better.
Immigration does mean more crimes, especially if it is done in an uncontrolled manner and in a large scale. Because the state simply does not have the resources and time needed to integrate these people, especially if they came from polar-opposite cultures, such as Africans and Middle Easterners.
I did support Brexit as an euro-skeptic myself, but the reasoning behind it, the Eastern Europeans, I always found it funny, considering that the UK has bigger problems with people coming from their former colonies than they ever had with Eastern Europeans in general. Ironically, this has died down after Brexit, and the Brits now see in the Muslim community a bigger threat (took them long enough). Too little, too late. The Islamization of Western Europe at this point is an irreversible trend either way. I just hope my country will refrain from bringing these people over.
In Romania, especially if you are from North Africa or the Middle East, if you cause trouble, the next day you are gone. Deported. No discussions about it, no lawsuits, nothing. A black van will come up, carry you over, and the next day you fly over back to where you came from. We had a few Afghans some years ago who used to make trouble, fight all the time near the train station in Timisoara. The next day they were gone as if they did not exist. If we can do it, Western European countries can do it. But then again in Romania you do not have immigrant advocacy groups or NGOs willing to file lawsuits and all this drivel on their behalf. Cause if they do, they will need to answer to the community. Which is not pretty.
No one checked the passport or even an ID sometimes, just the boarding pass when flying between countries before covid. Now they check.
Your chart misses Andorra, between Spain and France, which, while it's not in the EU, you don't need a passport to enter.
CORRECTIONS:
There are a number of mistakes in this video:
At 0:21, we use the Icelandic flag instead of the Norwegian flag
At 1:08, the animation dates the Treaty of Rome as 2021, but the narration (correctly) states 1957
At 5:10, we use the Slovakian flag for Slovenia
Schengen is well alive. I traveled from Czech Republic to/from Portugal and vice-versa crossing countries such as Switzerland and Liechtenstein - no controls anywhere
Portugal doesn't have any problem with Schengen. Due to geography immigrants generally don't come to Portugal and the Portuguese government has made agreements with the king of Morocco to control a possible illegal migrant route from Morocco to the Algarve - in a sense every illegal immigrant that enters into Portugal from the Algarve by the sea is detained and deported since September 2021.
I live at the border between Italy and France, since I often go to Monaco for meetings I see passport checking in every train coming from Italy at Menton Garavan. Is like that meme of Family Guy when, the darker you are, more prominence to be asked about your documents. Now they've started doing that "randomly" in Ventimiglia, both when you want to take the train as when you come back from France. The result is Ventimiglia is full of immigrants trying (and many times, dying) to go to France. The problem is the countries do not care about Italy's taking the toll of irregular immigration so they prefer to impose controls. On its side, Italy have completely dismantled all integration and helping facilities, making this the more noticeable problem, as the real problems that affect the country do not exist. It's extremely urgent for the UE to take a unified policy, otherwise this crisis will just put in power more populist governments that will never try to solve the problem because having it allows them to be in power.
You put Slovakia flag when mentioning Slovenia at 5:08 ;) dont worry we are used to it but keep it in mind please. Thank you for your work as always
Hey guys, The date in the agreement graphic is wrong (It says 2021)
At about 1:06 you guys animated the treaty of Rome as 2021 even though you say it’s 1957
So I took a roadtrip over 24 countries of which only Norway Switzerland Liechtenstein and Andorra were not in the EU. Suprisingly, at none of these countries did I get a passport or custums check. However even more suprisingly when I crossed the bridge/ tunnel from Denmark into Sweden I got stopped right away for custums. To my suprise they wanted to search me and check my passport before allowing me entry. The only other passport check I had was unfortunately when leaving and entering the UK. And even when it was in the UK that was still a thing. Its just that now you also have the added unnecessary delay of custums. Last year upon coming back those guys for no reason stopped me for like an hr to very carefully search my whole car and all my bags got x Ray scanned. They also took my passport and car documentation and only gave it back upon finishing. I have to say it was really really not a nice experince coming back to a country you call home. Literally they asked me "What's my reason for visiting the UK?" And I'm like "Ah excuse me I live here." Even though this should of been pretty obvious due to me driving a UK car. Thankfully this year there was none of that but I do not wish that stressful experience on anyone else. Honestly sitting there stopped I remember feeling like I'm being treated as some kind of criminal even though I had done nothing wrong.
You do realize that people driving over to Europe then coming back is how almost all smuggling (especially of guns & knives) is happening right?
This is what we Romanians also feel when we cross the border into Hungary, even though we are members of the EU.
Not a Swede but commenting that there may have been events which require hightened sequrity measures, terrorism risk, head of foreign state etc visiting a near by region, and so forth. One cannot make hasty assumptions from a single experience. From Finland.
Austrian chancellor is opposed of any expansion of Schengen Area until a major reform is done, but he didn't oppose Croatia access. Why is that, is it because a lot of Austrian people spend their holiday in that country? Ever since croatia joined schengen area, illegal immigration went up in Slovenia by more than three times from previous year. At the same time Austria have border controls with Slovenia for multiple years now. This is crazy logic i tell you!
I remember taking a coach bus down from Tallinn back to Warsaw, and upon crossing into Poland from Lithuania our bus was pulled over by border control officers who came on board and took all our passports back to their vehicle, then came back on board and returned them to us. It was an unnerving situation to say the least! Especially since it was late at night. This was back in December of 2017.
Pretty common procedure when it comes to busses
French here and just to be clear France didn't put back the control on their border with the EU countries just with Italy since 2015 and it's not always a systematic control (only by train it's) and they are reinforcing it since the last "massive" arrival of migrants in Italy.
3:20 Sometimes i do wonder why they dont just go with Majority vote?
Because it would take an unanimous vote to move away from an unanimous vote system.
Andorra de facto participates in Schengen area too. There’s no practical way to reach Andorra without going through Schengen area.
Did you just put the Islandic flagg in Norway (0:23)????
European fears of being overrun are hardly paranoia. The loss of the Paris suburbs is a scandal.
You say it as if it’s a war
Loss? Talk about Hyperbole
The loss of the Paris suburds ? Where do you live to say that ? Ahahah it's a good joke
The EU will finally have to get their act together and seal its exterior border. Migrants without leagal right nor any any acceptable cause for asylum will have to be turned away. Also, people who sneak in from Belarus will have to be sent back right away. They were invited to come to Russia and Belarus so they could stay there. These are reasonably safe countries.
It’s hard though. America only has 2 borders to worry about and their longest is with Canada. A much easier situation and they still have this issue
Too late, there are many many of them in, they eat and study, they have even got fat !
@jerry3790 True, it's difficult. Some countries also don't want to close their border as that would be bad. Europe should be welcoming 🙏 legal migrants, but also we need to know who comes in and who can stay, who can not. As of now, the whole thing is disaster. The Mediterranean countries need full support protecting their border, sharing the burden, and also sending illegals back home.
@resiliencewithin Late, yet not too late. It's better late than never 😌. Also, you still have member states who block any effort to gain back control.
This video feels like a fishing expedition ngl
Ah! Drove around a month ago and speed limits at the border were mostly 20km/h or even 10km/h, but I remember it was mostly 40km/h years ago. And there were some people (dressed in uniforms) standing around at least at some of the borders. This must be that "collapse" you are talking about.
C'mon man, how do you pronounce Czechia like that 😅
Austria is one of the biggest hypocrites of The EU
Very important
i didnt know that Iceland had an exclave in Norway
Is it normal I see so many mistakes in this video?
yeah
I really wish. Because that would be the first time out of TLDRs 10.000 subjects it ever covered to be right ONCE. It's 'IS THIS HAPPENING?' topics is laughable and is 90% typically the case of the search for issues that aren't there.
It's a typical clickbait title which are really annoying but it's just the nature of youtube, a more accurate title is "Why can't Romania and Bulgaria join Schengen". Schengen area isn't going anywhere, there may be issues but they are linked with the candidates geopolitical matters and neighboring countries interests.
Hardly surprising that Austria is holding out! Go to Vienna and see how it is deteriorating!
You can travel from Tolaydaur to Tramsaur
I have no problem with showing my passport at the border, if it means it will stop the illegal immigrants.
Yes, but if every vehicle is stopped to be checked by police officers, economic growth will decrease (if not GDP and GDP per capita themselves). I believe that illegal immigration can be stopped much cheaper and more effectively by introducing respective laws.
@@tomorrowneverdies567worth it to stop illegals
If you're a civilian car, driving through a few EU states the delays at each crossing are close to non-existent:
For schengen area of EU: Crossing from Slovenia to Germany via Austria takes ~1 minute for boarder crossings in one direction and 0 minutes on the way back.
For non-schengen area of EU: Driving from Slovenia to Bulgaria via Hungary and Romania takes ~2-3 hours for boarder crossings during night time. And same goes for the way back.
So... The border crossing checks have been re-introduced yes... But for cars they can still be treated as non existent.
For trucks it's possibly a different story.
So the two should be reported as separate...
You got the Slovenian coat of arms of wrong at 5:10. You have mistakenly used the Slovakian coat of arms.
Theres need to be an entire video of why its only austria who is doing tremendous drama
I love How he pronunced Toledo as “Teleidow”
How is it pronounced?
To-le-do
Give him a break lol I've heard worse
BOrder controls may be inconvenient but they do not fundamentally undermine free movement. If you are an EU citizen you can still live and work anywhere in the EU and stay longer than 90 days.
Yes but they reduce the speed of products (and services) movement, which will reduce growth and GDP and GDP per capita. There are better and easier ways to end illegal migration. Good laws is one.
@@tomorrowneverdies567worth it
Last year I crossed the border between Italy and France by non-stop train and the French police stoped the train at the border to get in, then the train kept moving, and the police inspected some people, I think all non-Schengen nationals, (and they have the list of passengers). I am from Mexico, and I was asked to show my passport and answer questions of what places I had visited and what I was doing in Europe, how much money I had and even open my bag to show what I was carrying. I never expected something like that, I don’t know if it’s normal for France or that particular crossing.
That is Gestapo in action! Fascism is on the rise in Europe, it has been since before Covid-19. The police doesn't have the right to question you like that unless you are being arrested and even then you have the right to remain silent. Of course, they can and will ruin your vacation, becaus...Gestapo.
As long as we go back to individual country VISA periods as well that's good for non EU travellers/tourists. since the 90 days in 180 rule for the whole of Schengen makes it inconvenient to say the least to see much of Europe in any one trip. Croatia used to be a good Schengen-reset option along with Romania and Bulgaria with every country that joins, longer term travel to Europe gets harder.
Wanting to spend more than 90 out of a 180 days in the Schengen area while not being a resident in a member state is a really niche problem.