Most EU countries just don't have the capacity to integrate this amount of migrants, so what you end up with is massive separated communities of migrants with completely different cultures, religion and values, that causes friction with the original population.
@@BesthinktwiceI simply love how English were "terrified" of eastern european while not being terrified by the shiv and shank people, turkish, arabs or other ones. The eastern europeans blend quite well (much better than the above mentioned ones) and their children will actually consider themselves english/brittish w.e, compared to how most of arabs/turkish and so on where they will consider themselves english only as the second answer (or first when them boys wanna use the strong passport you got. Also about the "different people and therefore scared topic", I mean you can say it is somewhat true for some people but let me tell you this: When you know that there are some parts of the city where there is actual threat to your safety of the safety or your belongings, you tend to think: why is that? Well because it is massively populated by a minority i.e. arabs, blacks and so on, sooo you realize that the more they come, the more they group together and shit starts hitting the fan. And it aint solely white/black thing, notice how I never mentioned indians, asians and so on. Well coz they're mostly chill, adapting well and hard working. They don't cause issues. Nor do by far most of eastern europeans (you always got a retard here and there). So to sum it up: if you got certain groups which are more likely to cause issues, you will try to not let them in your home. As simple as that. Ain't about the race, rather about the damn behavior or those races/ethnicities and so on.
@@Besthinktwice look, I think there are definitely migrants that should be accepted, but you can't deny this causes issues in countries, sure accepting 20k migrants when your population is millions won't change anything even if they don't integrate well, but just look at Sweden they have a population of 7/8 mil and have accepted a million migrants, and everything I hear from Swedish friends is that it has made towns/neighborhoods significantly more dangerous, there was even a news piece of the army getting involved to help the cops. Btw would appreciate perspectives on the issue from other Swedes, my circle might be quite narrow.
@@Besthinktwice there is significant difference between migrants from the same cultural sphere like Western/Roman Europe than economical migrants( which should not be accepted by default) whose are from completely different culture/religion/sphere of influence.
Please tell me more about how well you understand London after visiting. I'm glad someone that doesnt live there like myself can tell me what I think. Thank you.
The main problem is that the distinction between economic migrants and refugees has been blurred. Both the left and right intentionally blurr it for different reasons.
Isn't the end effect similar in both cases though? A bunch of foreigners arriving in your country and causing a headache. The main difference is that economic migration is long-term, while asylum seekers arrive in waves. The problem is mainly illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
Overall the migrants are really just an attempt to bring up gdp and put money into the wallets of the government and capitalists. I personally don’t mind since I’m American, but I think relying on migrants has hurt poorer countries. It’s a literal brain drain.
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t maybe just pay reparations to the billions of people your countries are responsible for destroying and they wont be forced to flock to europe for the small chance of getting to be alive without having to experience literal torture every second of their existence? europe causes all these problems but never wants to be held responsible for all the damages. yall INVENTED INSURANCE but you cant even be honest about the damages you do.
Why all those Muslims can't migrate to the super rich gulf States like Saudi Arabia, Katar, Emirates and others. If they have money for building golf fields or ice rinks in the desserts they should be able to help their brothers a bit.
The right to claim Asylum needs to be reformed again. People use this as an excuse to enter illegally and also bring a bad name to those who enter legally. Those asylum seekers who are rejected should not apply for work permits. That is the loophole many are abusing it.
It’s funny how your straight up quoting parts of Trumps 2016 campaign. Migrants are artificially keeping your countries young. The aging crisis isn’t going to be stopped until automation or natural selection catches up. Really there is no answer to it. For all you know you could be dooming yourselves.
There is no migration crisis in Poland. Ukrainians or Belarusians who escape to Poland find work, open their own business, pay taxes, thrive. They are from the same culture, they are in huge majority respectful people (there are always exceptions) who learn language fast. The rest of migrants who come to Poland do that on work or student visa so we have no problem with them. If you come to Poland, you need to have a purpose because we don’t give benefits.
Why students are problem? Majority of the non-eu students are PAYING tuition fees and spending foreign money cuz you don’t have scholarships thus they boost ur economy. Especially Turkish ones. I understand you though on Arabic refugees crisis. It’s everywhere. Non-students are also coming there to open up businesses and pay taxes. Just don’t mistake Turkish ppl with Arabs or Africans generally. They are absolutely not the same.
@@alensufli nah Muslims gonna be Muslims. Statistically higher rape rate, extreme sexism, and cutting people's heads off because they criticized Muhammad who married a child and the Quran that validates all the degeneracy above.
I actually firmly believe that immigration policies are the number 1 reason for the rise of populism in Europe. Not the sole reason, but the biggest contributor. I really don’t understand where the issue before a solution is found, there’s clearly growing frustration even in Western Europe. It’s not like there isn’t a will universally everywhere at this point. Australia has tight migration policies, Japan has tight policies etc. nobody is even batting an eye about them. I see no reason why we can’t follow their footsteps.
There is a corporate left-wing interest to maintain a steady flow of immigrants. Corporations need immigrants because they can pay them below the national average, which means reducing the production costs and more profits for the shareholders. Left wing political parties see in immigrants an untapped electoral base, especially in local elections where immigrants are granted voting rights once they get permanent residence which is like an intermediary state before getting citizenship. Immigrants are much more likely to vote left wing parties because they facilitate their arrival and presence, as well as provide them with various benefits.
When it comes to people coming by boat they are pretty strict and effective at least compared to elsewhere. I mean Christmas island and similar are definitely pretty harsh.
Neither Australia nor Japan went to Africa and Middle East colonizing, exploiting people, drawing arbitrary borders, causing conflicts, etc. If you look at where the immigrants are coming from and why, more often than not it goes back to the mess Europeans have caused. It’s just coming back to haunt them. It’s like the kid you used to beat up in school is now coming back at you.
People always ignore the physicality of the issue. Have you considered the Massive Coastline the EU has with the Mediterranean? And im general the EU members have all signed the declaration of human rights. People come over without papers - when I mean people I mean tens of thousands - good luck investigating each one of them for their origin country and deport them there. All the far right parties are also making promises they can’t keep. The true solution, ladies and gentlemen, is to make the North African coast our own jurisdiction. The solution is recolonization of Africa.
Hot take: I think the 2015 migrant crisis was in part what scared the UK into voting for Brexit, in the misguided belief that it would stop mass migration
I think that the issue is that immigration in Europe especially with regards to the Syrian refugee crisis was that it was forced upon most EU countries without a democratic vote or even public debate. The anti-democratic nature of it all where citizens of these countries were just told “it’s happening, you can’t stop it, cry harder loser” is part of the reason there was so much of a backlash. It’s that obvious disconnect where the intellectuals in their ivory towers, living in prime real estate and many times gated communities saw no conceivable downsides for them whereas regular EU citizens had to bare the brunt of the problems when you drop a large amount of people who are very poor and from a vastly different culture right into the nations with very little guidance or direction.
We are evil racists for not wanting our countries overrun by foreign migrating peoples trying to lay claim to our ancestral lands in the first place. That is always the only moral of the politically correct story. An ethic of cultural deconstruction, nay, self-destruction to be precise. But it doesn't have to be like this. If the EU is indeed democratic as the claim is then it should be possible for its peoples to take completely other route and to chance the course into politics which is actually benevolent to Europeans.
Gated comunities is more an americas phenomenon. I can literally ring the bell of the president of my country or find him swimming at the beach. Usa projection onto europe 😂
@@puraLusa The phenomenon known in America as white flight is recognizable in Europe as well. Those white people who can afford it live separately from mixed, often poorer communities where problems are more common. Suburbia such as in America simply make this more easily recognizable.
When I passed through Marseilles it felt like I was in Algeria. As I walked down the street all I got were looks of disdain like I didn't belong because I'm not Middle Eastern.
That is rather common in many European cities. I can't walk parts of my own city because they have become so called no-go zones. I barely see a Swede when i visit the central part of the city.
Its just talk from them to try and stop AfD as I think this government has preposed to make it easier to get citizenship. I also think Germany has been blocking the idea of sending migrants to third party countries within eu discussion.
Yeee this should only work this way for people that live in eu not for every body. Also the fact the migrants try to force thier own rules in country they came in is just big midle figger from them. I mean there is fact that people need to stay in thier coumtry to make it more rich. Ukrains really escaped from war but wamt to go back as fast on posible while the arabian migrants not only want to staybin eu and live only from free money, but they allso steal ect.
As an immigrant I can clearly say EU and any other Region in the world for that matter, has a capacity for migration, that is simply not infinite. We have to face the facts. Migrations policies should be constantly updated and developped in a way it provides enrichement for the hosting population and for the minority of migrants. If you flood any country in the word with more migrants than it can handle, sooner or later friction will occur, which gives ground for extremism on both sides. Then there are economic factors which explain like 90% of immigration.
Tell your ppl back home if they want to enter EU they should come to Serbia, we are gladly pushing them thru our borders to EU just to make chaos in EU 😂😂
@@serbianwarrior385 Bro I never udnerstood the Serbia EU love hate relationship. liek u guys want to join so bad the EU but Hate the west and Nato at the same time. How do u manage? XD
@@serbianwarrior385thanks for showing your true colors. It’s always good to know which nation states are your enemies behind those false smiles. Serbia should go join Putin and the rest of those failed corrupt states of needless human suffering. There’s a lot of them to choose from if that’s your preference. And just leave us be.
The highest number of immigrants and refugees EU can accept to move inside its borders should be defined annually by the market situation. Open jobs minus how many unemployed people we have in EU. Roughly. Also, consideration of expected market development should be included into the analysis. Zero or negative result would mean zero accepted immigration or refugee applications that year. Period. If we cannot provide for the people already in EU, we cannot provide for people entering the EU. It is that simple. People are slowly waking up to see this, which is the reason for changes in the common political views. Focus in international aid should be put into the country of origin, or the country next to it. Refugee camps and humanitarian aid. Not into inviting all these people to EU area. People who want to help can volunteer to the aid organizations and travel to the camps and countries where the problems begin.
@@RaVNeFLoK False smiles??Sorry but what false smiles??Where are u from and what is your country?Us to leave u be??Oh brother we never even bothered u anything, u are ones(Western EU)that decided to attack us and to try take part of Serbia (Kosovo) and make it a independent country!Classy western hypocrisy!!!
Europe needs to make the point that people from the Third World can’t simply turn up on Europe s southern border in the tens of thousands and expect to all be taken care of but need to get a skill or trade first and then apply legitimately from their own countries.
Don't forget that our ancestors here in the US came from the third world in Europe: Ireland, Italy, Slavic countries were all "shitholes" as Trump would say. They were considered backwards, disease ridden, and filthy. Same as today with those people you are attacking. Most of our ancestors did not have skills or trade. I think having a generous social welfare state and a huge migration is kind of a bad idea, fortunately here in the US we don't have that combination. Our immigrants come and work, and work hard and pay taxes.
@@starxenoon8848they are not starving. They are seeking better opportunities. Majority of immigrants are males not children and elderly and not even females. They are aka invaders. I am central asian and i dont know how the fuck Europeans do not see how stupid it is to welcome invaders instead of fending them off.
it's weird how people think the west is an exception to typical laws and customs. It's normal for countries to protect their borders and restrict immigration, has been forever (even back in the middle ages you often couldnt just move into another country or village without some kind of paperwork and/or fee). The people fleeing to the west are often facing the same illegal immigration problems in their home country and they dont like it when it happens to them either. In the Americas for example people think the border with Mexico should be open but many Mexicans are moving because they're being displaced by central and south Americans and the Mexican government uses a lot of their security funding to try and block illegal immigration from their own southern border. Similar is happening across the Arab world as well.
@@iminyourwalls8309Hmm, I see. So in essence "we go over there plunder the hell out of everything they have, come back home, and then we shut the doors when the people from over there are facing hard times and want to enter our society"
One point that wasn't addressed in this video is the effect this has on legal migrants. As a skilled worker migrant myself I can see what effects this has on my morality when I see the very people I was trying to get away from (i.e. Hamas supporters and terrorists) just become asylum seekers and ultimately are my neighbors again. This will soon change the demography of Europe and a drastic change in values. Legal immigrants will then definitely search for better places.
This is a good take. It's funny how legal migrants go through a thorough examination, yet a lot of those 'from the bottom of the barrel' folks got accepted in the blink of an eye
so being a Hamas supporter is really bad, but being an Israel supporter (as many people in Europe are), that's okay? You are aware of how many more civilians Israel has killed than Hamas, right? It's roughly 10 times more -- although I'm happy to discuss the exact figures.
Solution shouldn't be to severely restrict immigration, it should be to better process and vet immigrants to let only the good, skilled workers who can provide a benefit to society in. I know so many of these intelligent, skilled immigrants who have been waiting for years/decades for their applications to be processed and their lives are hell while at the same time seeing many other immigrants lie and cheat their ways to citizenship. It's unfair. We need to reform the immigration department to favor a more extensive vetting process.
My family feels much the same in the US. My family is half Thai and many Thais have dealt with their own issues with religious extremists in Southern Thailand, and they also tend to hate the illegal immigrants from latin America since the illegal immigration makes it _so much harder_ to immigrate legally. I've got friends and family who had their marriages picked apart by government bureaucrats because so many Latin Americans abuse green card marriages, and they face the same issues getting work visas.
What's even funnier is that here in UK skilled worker visa fees have become higher because government can't cut money from the other areas to support their spendings on illegal immigrants. So, people who respect the country they moved to and who pay taxes now must pay extra for those who don't respect it and don't pay taxes.
@@ВадимВадимович-ь6т What we do in France and we are called racists and Islamophobes. In France you do like the French and you stop all external proselytism. That's all.
It depends on what kind of migrants is coming. Sweden accepted about 180 000 migrants in 2015 and they said that that Sweden almost collapsed and they would never do it again and Sweden is still not recover from this event... Pretty much same populated Czech republic accepted 180 000 refugees from Ukraine in just a few weeks and total number is higher than 500 000. What happened to Czech republic? Literally nothing!
probably real estate crisis like in Poland rent went up 100%, 1 m^2 in Prague costs 10k euro in city center. This is the same number like in Seattle but salaries 3x higher in Seattle.
One of the reason is that Czech republic accepted people with relatively close culture. Ukranians can almost understand Czechs just through similarity of languages. Also Czech republic do not provide a lot of support, so many people move somewhere else. AFAIK Czech republic has about 200-300k Ukrainians in the end. And about 100K found a job. Others in many cases are children.
Real estate prices went up crazily. I have a local Czech friend that pays the equivalent of 500 euros for a hotel room with no kitchen:)))) it did bring prices up and it made it a bit harder to find a job, just like it would anywhere
@@kirillshmidt3776 Not exactly. Do German and English understand each other? They have also similar language and both split cca 1500 years ago... Czech republic provide relatively relatively nice support, but you cannot live on luxury. And I think this is the main reason why Ukrainians(usually mothers with kids) are looking for jobs and much more of them did really find one in just a year, but immigrants in Sweden, Germany(overwhelmingly young men) etc could not after almost a decade...
As a non eu student trying to study in Italy we can literally see the system failing in front of our eyes there is simply too many immigrants that are all processed by same agency. Getting right documents takes as much time as getting a degree here
Numbers and types of migrants here in Sweden are ludicrously higher than the ability of the country's resources, institutions and economy to absorb them. To make matters worse, the tax system locks people out of the kind of work that migrants traditionally took up to support themselves. VAT, the Eurotax, in Sweden has almost killed off market trading and tradesmen working independently. Meanwhile, earnings from crime are tax free. All that before we even consider the differences in culture and values. The result is a crime wave
@@sqoerrel Facts don't equal racism. OP never said a single thing to degrade the immigrants, just stated that the way in which Sweden's government has tried to integrate them has failed. People who cry racism are fucking disgusting and have clearly never encountered real racism. I'm mixed race and I spit in your eye for crying racism when none was present.
@@sqoerrel You are pulling race card in face of same people who were massively pro-immigration. Their opinion started to shift as various problems were rising
If You Work on the border in Croatia You would see that 95 % of illegal immigrants are men of the age 16 to 30. Majority of them are captured , procesed and returned. Their Border Patrol are doing good job.
@@Matteus-b2rhow millions of poor uneducated military aged hungry men swarming your streets a good thing? Especially when they have nothing to loose, there’s a reason there’s been so much more crime in the west…
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 Exactly, I'm from Croatia and ive spoken to a group of them, about half of the group worked odd jobs and small jobs in construction and the other half was milking the country for benefits
It is worth noting, the biggest driver of Brexit was immigration policy. The UK would all but assuredly still be un the EU if the migration crisis didn't exist. So the effects of the EU immigration policy are very significant in the EU.
Migration Crisis have caused a rise of far right parties in all European states as nothing ever did. This situation should never really appear, it's destroying our European culture and dividing us. We gotta stay strong. Personally i'm a liberal person but on this single issue i strongly stay opposite way.
You cant have a strong welfare state when you litterally give out resources to foreigners who contributed nothing to the country before coming in. Theres no actual social contract at that point. Its just glorified charity. You accept these people out of PITY and not out of SKILL and wonder why shit ends up bad.
Imagine someone you don't know comes into your home illegally, then hands you a request to stay. When you call the cops to have them leave or be removed your neighbor calls you racist and ungrateful for their presence.
@@andrevictor9665 sunnis and shiites don't need anyone's help to kill each other. Stop blaming the west even for that. The third world is too lazy to fix themselves, too stupid to know what should be done and too uneducated to stop breeding like bunnies to kids they can't feed.
Um, no need to imagine, it's actually happened before through European colonialism and imperialism. You claimed you were civilizing them, which is a defense you still use to this day to defend your ancestors evil actions. Too bad your cultural religion didn't believe in karma, it would have done you some good and probably given you some foresight. Enjoy your new neighbors!
Ireland had gotten so overwhelmed too. We have a housing crisis. So many homeless on streets already, a big number of that is women and children. But suddenly its an issue now because someone who migrated here is staying in tents and other accommodation. The news preaching how it's a disgrace that they seek asylum here and there in tents and hotel rooms. But Nothing is being said or done or even mentioned ahout the overwhelming numbers of native irish population on the streets.
@karankapoor2701 Dude it wouldn't surprise me if he did say that haha. Like I'm not against helping. But the government had already previously stated there is no cap on the amount of people they will take in. But when there's such a strain on every service already. From the health dept , especially the housing crisis and cost of living. Its just unfeasible.
@@Jammiedodgers91 The only way to fix this problem is by only allowing Asylum applications from non EU citizens in the embassies outside of the EU. 99.9% of them use a loophole by applying tor Asylum in the EU knowing perfectly fine that they won't get it and that they are not qualified enough to apply for a job in Europe over the regular ways.
The housing crisis is not because of immigration. It’s because of capitalism. Housing is use as an investment, so when housing prices go down. They stop building until the prices go up again. When housing prices are too high and people don’t want to buy for that price. The higher rents
As they should romania and bulgarian are two of the most incompetent countries of EU, you can't trust them to secure their borders against illegal immigration
Completely false on all accounts. The official reason is luck of strong borders and pretending immigrants come through here, but the vast majority don't even pass near our borders. Not to mention that the Schengen doesn't have anything to do with border control, we already have free access to the rest of Europe even as 2nd class citizens. Can't believe the brithplace of one of the world's worst people would be xenophobic.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Got nothing to do with colonisation, you tool. All people get conquered. That's not an excuse to illegally enter another nation. If that were the case, half of Europe would be allowed to enter Hungary freely.
Exactly. It used to be only the most talented and skilled. Now its just any illiterate medeival villager from your local third world shithole, that just gets imported in mass numbers to turn the place they just immigrated to, into the shithole they escaped from. Fuck these people. Fuck all of them. I say this as a guy born from immigrant parents too. Third world countries are shitholes because of the people that live there. Thats why you only allow the best and brightest to immigrate. Its all gone to hell honestly. I feel uniquely in a position to say this without being labelled "racist" by some redditor whos only care in the world, is looking progressive to other countries.
This is literally first I heard that the relocation only goes FROM frontier countries to non-frontier ones. No one else bothered to mention this detail. In which case I suspect something's wacky with the official definition of a frontier country (considering the amount of time our media and politicians devote to the issue, and complain about the pact) - Poland is literally on the eastern frontier. Also the pact will do nothing to discourage irregular migration, it will only encourage more because their processing and housing will be spread across many countries. (And comparing amounts of asylum seekers and work visas is disingenous at best - Polish work visas were given mostly to two groups, Russians/Ukrainians, or Asians (Vietnamese, Filipino etc. - neither of which is a source of asylum seekers)
polish visas were given out for money and bl0wj0bs. Same story in italy where "immaculate" policemen and carabinieri will pull out their c0cks literally in front of asylum seekers. Or pay their new Alfa Romeo with the bribes they impose on people running from misery and injustice.
"Poland is literally on the eastern frontier." AFAIR the relocations only southern countries as frontier, they also do not count Ukrainian refugees and such as migrants the country has taken. So Poland would still get fined for refusing relocations even while accepting Ukrainian refugees.
@@petris7 that would explain why Polish politicians are so against the relocation rules. Because seriously that is wacky that you only consider one border....
Here is what i feel is missed in 90% of immigration discussions. people take stances of 'pro immigration' or 'anti immigration' when the reality is that migration is a constant part of state policy and absolutely needed... but also unsystematic and poorly managed migration is a disaster for all involved. And that's what I feel gets lost in these 'pro/anti' discussions: the question is not if we need immigration or not the question is how do we want to manage and integrate it into the rest of policy. As long as we don't have answers to that the rest is just angry noise.
because only rich people could afford it. credit was not a thing for ordinary people so the financing of trafficking fees didnt exist like it does now.@@Besthinktwice
@@jonathanodude6660 Lol. There were like waves into USA and also some Western people like the Irish, Finnish, Italians were thought to be dirty, prone to violence etc useless shit because some skull measurer said so.
@@Besthinktwice In the Victorian era getting to the UK was also something that less than 1% of the population could afford. Times have changed to be fair 😉
It goes deeper. Because it's just another sign of the system in general not working. Nothing works, and our entire civilization is collapsing around us.
this is a deeply problematic situation which is very very hard to find an easy and humane solution. there's the issue of the people seeking asylum and their human rights. to reject their right of freedom, safety and stability is to completely shut your empathy for another human. it is a true humanitarian crisis. however the large influx of migrants in countries creates issues as well. many countries aree not prepared to receive this amount of migrants. and in the end of the day people worldwide should care about all the conflicts happening around the world and EU should promote peace worldwide. Libya is an example of the interferance of europe and america, which now turned libya into a route for migrants into europe. all the conflicts that happen worldwide can affect europe in the end of the day, therefore global peace is a necessity so people do not need to migrate anywhere in the first place. the poverty of other countries, the instability of other countries, the calamities that affect other countries should be a concern for everyone globally. the media in the west tends to downplay or not give enough cover or relevance to conflicts happening far away. and thats where the problem starts.
"Refugees fleeing for good reason" is a slippery slope. That technically says that hundreds of millions in India qualifies as economic refugees. Should Europe accept an influx of people that will outnumber them?
@@SigFigNewton Im sorry but migrant work force wont save us... EU must invest in its own population by that i mean make life easier not harder, if that happens maybe babies will start popping up . Having families is the stepping stone to a strong country. The problem is that we have been waging wars on families since the 2000 at least in my shithole. Bringing "Migrants" from the end of the world some of them couldn't live with animals is not the solution.
Reality is, after the original settlers stock in the US (British isles inc Ireland), later immigrants were specifically picked because of their close ties to northern European culture with Belgium, Netherlands, German, France & Sweden. It was only after than they opened up to counties like Spain, Italy, Greece, Poland and the rest Europe with quotas. After that the US opened up to more foreign cultures, why would they do this? Cultural assimilation, something Europe has failed with massively with uncontrolled immigration from everywhere under the guise of 'blank slate' idealism.
@@aristocraticrebel Best time for white men* I'm sure the black guy who got lynched for opening a business or the white women who was brutalized by her husband was having a great time.
The quotas were also placed because of sudden huge waves of immigration. Immigration rates were low of US history but in the mid to late 19th century there was a lot of upheaval in Eastern Europe including tons of pogroms against people like the Jews and countries like Russia essentially tried to expel all their Jews which coupled with war and other things led to huge waves of Slavs and Jews trying to move to the US. At the same time the US was pretty much finishing up the last of their homesteading so the "frontier" was mostly settled and they didnt have anywhere to send those immigrants like they had in the 16th, 17th, 18th, and early 19th centuries. The factories needed labor, true, but not in the kinds of numbers that were arriving especially since the US was leaning more and more towards automation in factories. Those quotes were also set in place to discourage uneducated, unskilled laborers which were the vast majority then as like now. Europe could use some unskilled labor but they're going more and more towards efficient use of labor, automating as much as possible, so they dont need thousands working on assembly lines or working on farms and mines and what they want is educated immigrants. No matter the time period tons of foreigners moving into a country that are of a different culture, language, religion, and ethnicity who are also uneducated and lack useful skills are a destabilizing influence which is why even in centuries past and even in the pre-modern era were often restricted and controlled. In the middle ages for example you'd often need to pay some kind of fee or fine to move to another country and may face expulsion if you destabilize the country. If there isnt work that only makes things worse for the migrants and the host country as that leads to conflict from the local people that are losing jobs and if the migrants dont have jobs they're more likely to cause political agitation.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@WillYouVid All I want to do is that my cities remain as safe as when I was young. I won't accept that in my 40's the average allahuakbar feels entitled to touch me. If you want to give your lecture against "inhumans" "inaccessible city center" why don't you lecture the peacefuls that women have RIGHTS too? Gays as well. And while we are at it, teach them what CONSENT is. Thank you.
@@calidawg510 it's a matter of perspective. For example, if your perspective is that of a believer in the Grand Remplacement racist conspiracy theory, you can indeed be replaced, no problem for me. You're gonna be easily replaced with as little as a barking chihuahua, but I'd honestly prefer to see the empty void left by your departure. Nobody will miss you. You may disappear now!
EU countries should mind their business in other countries' affairs especially the UK, France, and others who are the main problem. Leave West Africa alone, leave North Africa alone, and others. Maybe they will stop coming.
They forgot about belarussain - poland border and non stop migrants pressure organized by Russia and Belarus to engage part of poland military in border defense.
Immigration in itself is not a problem since it has always existed. The problem is that now it comes mainly from Africa (sub-Saharan and Magreb) and the Middle East with a little from South East Asia like Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. And most of these countries (except sub-Saharan Africa) are Muslim. This poses a problem in a predominantly Christian Europe. The arrival of people who place their religion above everything else in a Christian continent poses a problem. They have the right to practice but must not proselytize. And all the Muslims who criticize France for Islamophobia. NO France is not ismamophobic. the French simply want to stop all Muslim proselytism. They must live discreetly while respecting the culture of the host country. Exactly as is required for Christians or Hindus in Muslim countries. So no Islamophobia, let's stop these lies. If France is so Islamophobic, why do you want to continue coming to this country? The truth is that she isn't, but at home you act like her. That's all. Anyway there is now too much immigration in Europe and especially in France, UK, Germany, Belgium, Sweden... with people whose customs and culture are too distant. It must be controlled, LEGAL, chosen. And we must send away the undesirables and those who act like invaders. These are our countries, our continent. It's up to us to choose and not the politicians who just want them for cheap labor. Or the far right and nationalists will come to power (especially in France and Germany). Too bad.
Well Why did you make for Russians and Belorussian’s that are also Cristian and have similar culture to yours Not only you made process of getting visa so much harder But even buying plane ticket can cost you from Russia to EU a lot more than most can afford How the fuck that was logical in any way ?
When all these Russians were flying from mobilisation And Belorussian’s from dictator regime What did you do ? You shut the door in front of them However Georgia Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Azerbaijan Armenia welcomed them I’m sorry but why didn’t you bring them Because the high majority are young Educated know English Against putin Against war And in these 4 countries they actually opened a lot of businesses and they pay taxes to them And giving job for locals Look at Alexandr orlov a famos restaurant owner that has restaurant in Dubai in EU in London And he opened 2 high class restaurant one is tanuki Japanese And one is manana a Georgian And more more ( that is the name )( a sea ) seafood restaurant and they are very good in Almaty and luxury sauna in Astana And in Uzbekistan And in Azerbaijan Or Fedor ovchinikov he is also a famos for his pizza chain DODO pizza that also exists in many countries And guess what his pizza chain is the best in Kazakhstan And now these 2 are paying g taxes to Kazakhstan And giving locals jobs a good jobs And why did not eu do the same ? Or many other Russians that opened their businesses in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan or Armenia or other places I get only fiew will be able to do the same but majority will work and integrate
After what happened at the cologne train station on New Year’s Eve in 2015, I can’t blame Europeans for wanting these migrants gone. I have read stories of women in Germany talking about how they have migrants sexually harassing them on the street, and how many people have lost faith in the EU. As an Australian, I used to look at the government with disappointment at their operation of detention centres on Nauru and Christmas Island, but now I understand what purpose it served. This isn’t an issue born out of hatred for migrants, it’s an issue regarding religion and culture, and the allocation of money. Western culture and Islamist culture do not mix, and many governments prioritise giving financial support to migrants instead of their own citizens, and mention homeless veterans, and how they need to wait up to 1 year to get their veterans benefits, while migrants that give birth in places like the USA immediately get access to healthcare and financial support. Up until this point, anyone against taking in refugees was considered “racist”, but now people are starting to realise they were right all along.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 yeah. As an American living in a very liberal area with a thriving gay community it was kind of hilarious seeing how many Democrats in the 90s and 2000s went from either refusing to weigh in on gay marriage or even opposing it to waving rainbow flags in a matter of a few years. There were some who even went from opposing gay marriage and saying only domestic partnerships should be allowed to pushing for gay marriage from 1 election to the next. Even icons like the Clintons went back and admitted their LGBTQ+ policies were terrible in the past in order to try and curry favor today. Many did hard 180s once the party line changed.
Yeah not so easy to stop them when you can do basically nothing and tons in the EU and at home work against you. You didn't listen what the opposition wanted....... Basically taking everyone in. An European strong solution is needed with different rules not single presidents. (how the hell can you stop them if you are forced to save them, you cannot have agreements and you have even to free them after some time, also the judges clearly opposed the government) more like either things change or people will look for someone that doesn't care about rules.....
She's just a fascist mate. They aren't known for being clever of for doing real work beside pocketing money while pouring kerosene on the hate and turning every problem into a worse problem for as long as they can keep the farce going.
As a Polish person 🇵🇱 who always supported the EU 🇪🇺 I am saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Australia and Japan have great immigration policies, it's time to implement them in Europe to stop the growing frustration and crisis among our population. We need a common and swift deportation policies for illegal migrants, clear cut and STRICT definitions for asylum seekers, and an IRON BORDER enforced by common NATO/European military navies. And we need to implement that NOW
Dude think for a second. How are we suppost to police evry border in Europe? Im against this type of immigration aswell but you have to be resonable. You cant police all the borders, we need another solution. Saying the first shit that comes to your head dosent help in this regard
Both are islands with no borders to worry about, awful example. Secondly, Japan is a terrible comparison, they have catastrophic lack of immigration and growth, their population is literally dying. Unless they either get a massive influx of immigrants in the next couple decades, or find a way to encourage at least 3+ children per family, their population will be so old by 2040 that their economy will be on the brink of total collapse as they lack enough young people to pay taxes. China is also now experiencing this, they have negative growth and a rapidly aging population and almost no immigration (though it will happen for them later than it will for Japan)
To be honest the EU only have themselves to blame for migration to Europe. They destabilized countries in the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Africa. They colonized countries, destroyed their cities and communities, killed the smartest people and would actually kill leaders if they would nog give cheap resources to Europe. Then they are suprised these people now want to move to Europe. People seem to forget that many European countries also have a job market shortage, so while it’s citizens maybe don’t want immigrants. The companies and government gladly take in immigrants from Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe to boost the economy.
So according to your logic Croatia does not have to take immigrants because they didn't invade or destabilized anyone in fact parts of Croatia even banned slavery in 1416 way before it was cool. Thank you for your contribution here.
@@okakokakiev787 i do not think so. Laughs in 98% white, 79% Christian, 1.4% muslim. Top 15 safest in the world with safest capitol in Euope in 2023. Revolution is coming Germany is already starting to vote right. I would not feel so safe if i were you.
As Polish citizen I would just clarify on 800k "work visa issued" by Poland. In our system "work visa" means "work permit" and it doesn't replace Visa at all. It is a first step towards getting a Visa as a migrants have to justify reason to come - turism, work, studing, etc. If someone got "work permit" it doesn't mean they are phisically in Poland/EU nor allowed to enter, but it means they are more likely to get a polish Visa once they submit a request. Some of those requests will be rejected, some accepted. Many of them comes from Ukraine as Poland took a great number of Ukrainian refugees. And It's odd to me that orher EU countires don't issue that many "work permits". The best way to get along with migrants is to work with them :> Cheers to all!
I just love how Poland handles all issues and is actually much more farsighted than most eu countries that just seem to be screwing themselves up by their own hands. To control immigrations rules have to be in place, you cannot just be taking whoever. Why should all these people be causing threats to the locals who had built those couturiers?
@gior987 I am not entirely sure what do You mean but in case I guessed right: W have African and Far East migrants on border with Belarus. And some Belarusian migrants too that get processed via normal government channels.
Because we are tired of taking African immigrants due to other countries fucking their homeland up. Poland has always been eurosceptic, so dont lecture others plz
I strongly belive in fact that most people disagree that its healthy when you replace your own nation with other in the name of profit of some companies that need slaves on lowest possible wages from poorest and lowest educated countries. You can call it whatever you like, it's also not the way to 'fix' demographic problems by putting millions of people inside Europe. Same as it's not help for them in most cases. If you really care for them then you should be against that as well. Because living in worst part of 'random huge european city' with low wages, lack of work due to sad truth- lack of education and skills of majority of those people (I know you will call me racist, whatever, that's the truth ), growing up with violence and poverty for most of them. Then they got mistreated and used by natives, they have problems with language or work, live among crime, frustration grows easily as you can see it all across Europe. And they childrens sadly grow up in that environment, a lot of them turn to crime or literal hate toward the country they were born and grow up in. And they love Algieria or Morocco but want to burn France or Belgium cause they hate their unlucky fate. It's already proven and in sight that mass, unhealthy immigration didn't work and don't work. And one more sad fact, europeans don't own them anything. We don't need to help them and yet we do, but it needs to be done different. I don't want another ethnic war when french, brit, german, polish, italian nationalists might start another revolution cause they don't want X nation in their home. Cause all it's needed is unhappy people, some crisis and a spark in the name of some left/right wing govt who will be willing to 'clean up mess' with some enemy they might find. Cause people never change.
@AmeenRidwan And what is your point ? Am I or is my nation responsible for millions of people having worse rng in life? We are here to talk and share thoughts after all without closing our minds. Yes I don't think random Ryan from England, Marco from Serbia or Michael from germany is living his life to sponsor and keep afloat family of 4 from Syria when a lot of people barely go by with rent. When people feel unsafe you like it or not, when losing identity that was here for centuries feels bad. Yes we live better and we are more lucky. But life isn't fair. And we work for it as our families did. That's why I would completly support help in african/middle east countries. Immigration on mass do not help anyone.
@@AmeenRidwan bruh we don't keep crying that's like saying Genghis khans descendents owe China or Italians owe the French for the conquest of gaul or Greece owes persia for Alexander's conquest
Fact of the matter is Europe is importing millions of illiterate low iq medeival villagers, and then crying when housing, benefits, and the rest, end up drying up. Import the third world, become the third world. Immigration is good when their not third worlders.
Schengen is not just visa free, but border check free. Romanians and Bulgarians can travel without a visa in the Schengen area despite not being Schengen countries, but are subject to border checks e.g. showing IDs when crossing the Schengen border.
A good point. Many eurodreamers confuse "The Freedom of Movement" with the truly free movement within the Schengen zone. Practically in Europe, it is either the Schengen border, or a national border.
I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, and the same problem begins in our country as in the EU with emigration from Central Asian countries. When there weren't many of them, you don't notice them, but when the population concentration starts to count in the tens of percent.... You start to notice a sharp increase in crime, drugs, rape, etc. But this is not the worst thing, none of them wants to integrate. Diasporas appear in your country and begin to indicate how to behave at home, forbidding you the holidays and traditions that are familiar to you.
Why are "EU rules" messig with countries sovereignity, making decisions about their borders, their immigration/foreign policy while also forcing economic ties that would be not beneficial at all for them and would make their country bankrupt.. So at the end should they just sacrifice their nation bc EU said so? nonsense@@AnonIllumi (btw im not anti EU. the union has its core strenght in the economic alliance between its memeber states but can't dictate and act as "one power" like the usa in foreign affeirs. its simply unrealistic. Most problems are country specific and should be handled separately. Not trying to push everyone under the same umbrella where some can't even fit...)
I know nothing about immigration policy, and this seems like an incredibly predictable result of allowing millions of people from places where cultural values are diametrically opposed to yours enter your country.
This is part of the reason why I didn't want to go to Europe. If you aren't part of their club, Europeans will always see you as less than human. It doesn't matter how much you suck up to them. So I think most immigrants would actually be better off going to North America if they have the chance and can pull it off logistically.
This is bullshit. Even though Poland bears the burden of accepting refugees from Ukraine in larger numbers than emigrants from Africa, it is not considered a "frontier" country. We have dealt with over the milion people in last year so well that this problem was practically not felt at all in Western Europe, so no one there now cares about Ukrainians and that direction of immigration. And now we are being punished for this when countries that are much richer than Poland are trying to extort tribute from us for the immigrants they cannot cope with at other borders. Let's be serious. Every endurance has its limits.
I would happily have my country take on Ukrainians and help as much as possible. But my government is more concerned about taking care of Muslims instead of Europeans.
You also have to keep in mind people, that the more migration there is the more people are in your country that expect low pay and are happy. No wonder wages never go up and rent is always going up.
True, and they rarely _just_ go after the worst jobs like many claim. I work as an electrician which in many places, including where i live, is a skilled trade requiring testing and a license but electricians make more money than day laborers on farms or in the unlicensed trades like ditch diggers or demolition so illegal immigrants will try to do electrical work as well and they're impossible to compete with. It took me years to get my license, i had to spend hundreds of dollars on books and spent countless hours studying in addition to the apprenticeship to the point i was effectively doing 2 jobs for over a year in the lead up to my test, and i have to pay higher taxes and do thing like pay for continuing education. That all means I expect more than minimum wage since i cant be licensed AND work for minimum wage or less and still be able to survive but an illegal immigrant can offer to do the job for half the price and still survive, hell I've seen guys undercut me and still make more money thanks to the sky high taxes I pay that he doesnt. In my area illegal immigration keeps many wages low, it's not a licensed job but people who go out into the woods and harvest wild things like brush for floral arrangements and wild mushrooms used to make pretty good money back in the day, around 150-200% minimum wage and sometimes more, but today it pays minimum wage or even less since there's a million illegal immigrants offering to do the same job for less and they try to beat one another on price. A major reason why so many jobs require things like education standards and have strict codes or laws is to ensure that those jobs are more skilled, conform to a higher standard, and so they pay well. A major reason for minimum wage is to prevent a race to the bottom on pricing. That's also why in fields like government contracting you have to pay employees "prevailing wage" which are industry standard wages based off both what the average worker makes in that field and what they should be making. Illegal immigration often removes all that creating a race to the bottom and depressing wages across the board. Many people dont think about it but countless jobs have their wages indirectly based off what the average wage is and what minimum wage is, since even when it comes to jobs that dont require degrees people who have an extra hard job or a job that requires some experience or skill expects to make more than minimum wage so minimum wage becomes the metric by which other jobs are compared. A skilled plumber expects more money than a minimum wage ditch digger and when minimum wage rises he'll expect more pay too since if a plumber makes $20/hr but minimum wage is $10, he'll feel like he deserves more when minimum wage goes up to $15/hr and conversely he may need to take a pay cut if suddenly the market gets flooded with people who will work for $5/hr.
@@arthas640 to be fair I'm an electrician myself, and you are kind of right that there are people without a licence that do work and undercut. Customers also expect very low payments. What's funny when they call a real electrician to fix the shit the cheap "electrician" did. The real money is at big corpo or council work, they have the money and expect quality and flexibility. Rising wages are expected for electricians if you are good and if inflation is out of control.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
You completely left out Serbia (a non-EU country that's key in the Balkan migrant route) which get threatened by EU if not letting migrants trough to Hungary and Croatia. EU wants them in and that's the biggest problem.
If the people sit in silent tolerance and governments sit in silent ignorance then this pressure will only build. Eventually the tolerance will wear out and the issue will grow to the point governments can no longer be blissfully ignorant. I hope it never builds to that point. It’s better to fix the borders now and deal with demographics shifting sooner to stop the extreme measures that will be taken later if nothing is done.
It will never cease to amaze that a continent responsible for more global invasion outside its own shores and borders than any other in history now claims such xenophobic entitlement.
well, according to the un refugee agency, the eu has 12 million refugees, with a major percentage of those being ukranian and russian. for turkey, it is atleast 13 million (according to unofficial estimates by the public) while the ukranians and russians are a smaller percentage. so, i dont get why europeans act like this is such a big deal. a country of 85+ million has 13 million refugees while an multinational organization with 440+ million is a very big deal??
Because these people arriving on boats aren't exactly refugees but economic migrants that end up on livinv on the social benefits provided by the EU contries and not contributing
@@Lisa-zi6hb true. some countries get more immigrants than others, but for the greek comparisant, there is roughly 1 immigrant per 33 greeks. for turkey, there is 1 immigrant per 9 turks.
@@Lisa-zi6hb how many churches did they destroy? now i wonder. can you send a rough estimate? also, yes. greece is a christian country. turkey isnt. but, that doesnt change the fact that the us, which is a mostly christian county, has had relatively neutral relations with its immigrants
Geographically speaking, yes, it is. But using the same measurements it also applies to Ireland (which is a part of the North-West frontier) The core difference here is the countries that border "the frointier". In case of Ireland, there's only UK. In case of Poland, there're Ukraine and Belarus (maybe only Ukraine, I am not sure about whether Poland closed its border with Belarus) In case of Spain and Italy, there're African and Middle East countries. Surely, Ukrainians are not the most desirable people on the planet, however they fit much-much better into the EU society than, for instance, arabs (do you remember any shit similar to what arabs regulary do in the European cities done by Ukrainians? Looting? Shooting?). Want to mention that I'm definitely not a racist, but there's an obvious issue with those migrants from the South...
@@user-li4vy8mp9o It's kind of depressing how people always try to make it a race issue when it isnt. Like in the US even many of those furthest to the right dont typically oppose all immigration or only want to stop immigration from non-White countries, they typically just want to stop illegal immigration and mainly as it pertains to Latin America where most of the crime, drugs, and foreign guns come from and they rarely if ever even mention slowing or stopping immigration from Asia. If it were a racial issue they'd oppose immigration from all non white countries, if it were a xenophobic/isolationist issue they'd oppose all immigration, but it's more about crime and people coming from Vietnam, Thailand, Japan, or Korea are rarely if ever bringing drugs or crime with them. Whereas the Mexican border looks more like a warzone than anything and its night and day if you ever go to Canada and cross the border there. Similar story with Arab immigrants in Europe: you rarely hear of Americans going to Europe and killing people so immigration from there isnt an issue, same goes for immigration from Asia, but with the Arab world it becomes an issue specifically because of the war and crime they bring with them.
@@user-li4vy8mp9o By which point, both Ireland and Poland should be considered frontier countries, just very much lower on the illegal immigration/asylum seeker intake. It's easily balanced by just making even frontier countries still have a quota, that simply gets readjusted as their illegal immigration/asylum seeker rates rise/fall.
@@user-li4vy8mp9o In case of Belarus, their dictator is waging a hybrid warfare by dumping some aggressive invaders... uhm... migrants at our border. So yes, thanks to him we clearly are a frontier country.
I was hoping he'd actually discuss what is causing the influx in the first place Update: It's the aftermath of US and European imperial wars in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan that's caused most of the refugees
Immigration is one of if not the biggest reason to Europe’s shifting to the populist and far right. I think there needs to be a honest discussion on how immigration is affecting everyone.
Honest discussion: It doesn’t matter how left or right wing you are, it doesn’t matter how tolerant and woke you claim to be, nobody likes endless waves of uneducated and disrespectful African and Middle Eastern migrants pouring into their nation. The majority aren’t even refugees, they’re technically economic migrants. If nothing is done in the present then a harsher approach will most definitely be taken in the future as the crisis grows and as tolerance wanes. I hope it never comes to that.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...
Poland is also dealing with illegal migration as a political attack from Belarus (which is angry about sanctions). Nicaragua has also picked up on this idea of using migration as a way to politically attack a country you are in conflict with (again over sanctions) and is chartering hundreds of flights from Cuba and Haiti full of migrants that it then sends north.
Actually it wasn't really a hot issue in The Netherlands (except from bad governance, slow bureaucracy and budget cuts). Mark Rutte brought down the government for tactics, because every public service broke, poverty and inequality got worse than ever and there are elections in November. He used it as a scapegoat to save his own name and the party's name.
I know it was just a minor part of the video, you explained it very well! And all I can think of is: I'm so lucky and glad I've never had to flee my house to end up in this political shit show
kinda true, it still is a hot issue since it directly affects the main problem, the housing shortages!!! refugees get priority subsidised housing, just look at how long the waiting lists have gotten now.
exactly, according to Mark Rutte "study migrants" and Dutch students are even bankrupting the economy because they take out a 2000 euros loan per year to pay tuition fees; but 2 million euros (tax payer money) going into Shell is no problem
@@ysbrandd but to be fair, that is such a small group of people, while the government released so many social houses into the free market and it didn't provide enough houses for starters. You can't blame the maybe tens of thousands immigrants in the past few years that there's a housing shortage of hundreds of thousands. Btw: this saturday housing protest in The Hague!! You should come!
@@MaxVersace On average 1000 new arrivals per week * 52 weeks * let's say 5 years = 260,000. This is not a problem to you in terms of integration and assimilation into society?
It's really quite simple. You have a right to claim asylum in the FIRST COUNTRY YOU SET FOOT IN that is safe. If you're leaving Sudan, and you set foot in Egypt, you're safe. Subsaharan Africa, and you set foot in Morocco? You're safe.
Poland handed over to White emigrants (Christians and Slavs), these are Europeans from Russia and Ukraine. These people are close in traditions, and they easily integrate into society.
Those massive migrations aleays happened in human history. The original european population was almost entirely replaced by indo europeans some thousand years ago. .Difference is now we have clear notions of nation, state and many ethnic nationalisms.
Historical speaking, a mass increase of immigration of a different language, culture, religious, etc... just different overall from the existing population, always causes conflict and harm unification. The uprising and protests from immigrants based off what happened to Israel is an example. Unfortunately, you doomed your country to be forever divided.
Regardless of political party, many in the UK have lost faith that the government and the civil service will stop the uncontrolled legal migration - note that is legal, the side of migration that we most have control over. The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in: - increase of people on benefits. See the governments data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities. - artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Middle East etc - increase in house prices and rental prices - more building on our protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure - more building on existing buildings and causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. Legislation has been relaxed to encourage this in building. The UK already has some of the smallest homes, compared to Europe. - increase in violence and crime. There is a general increase, plus some which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Asian (Indian subcontinent) grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children. - increased demand for extra policing, in the tens of thousands (look at the different police force's online wanted posters, there is a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population) - increased demand for prison officers, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population). We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these. - increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent). - the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact tourism - a quarter of a million people work in the tourism sector in London alone. - greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist - hospitals frequently declaring emergencies as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken! - increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent - lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, to suit a minority religious population - the enormous congestion on all our roads. Even country lanes, which were once peaceful, have now become rat runs - religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating - increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage - increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands MORAL QUESTION - is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited? And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers? MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN The effects of a lot of the above pressures, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should if anything, be the most resilient of society. FINANCIAL BURDEN At Budget time in March 2024, the UK National Debt is estimated to be £2.70 trillion! BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do. This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these reduce job vacancies. Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour! WHAT CAY YOU DO? Please watch, action, and share this SW TH-cam video: A Parliamentary petition to suspend immigration to Britain for five years Regardless of if you think this will give the results that we need, it is important for people to see, that there are many others who share their concerns, and this is one very simple and quick way to do it. Many thanks, and don't forget to share👍
In France, if your 2 parents are foreigners, including illegal immigrants, you become French at 13 if you were born in France. So immigration stats are totally inadequate to quantify the real situation.
These governments are all five decades two late on migration. When Climate change started affecting the global food chain who will be fed. Indigenous / Foriegners / Young / Elderly / Workers / Non Workers or will it be all our war black markets and riots. Immigration destabilises countries. Less people less Infrastructure required less infrastucture less funding required quality not quantity countries will survive. Multicultural Over populated countries will not survive. Immigration to build growth is a false economy that just makes the rich richer and fills the country with millions more people in the poorer classes. But soon all this false economy unravels and that is where we are now across the world. As I said Immigration is destrutive and destabilises. Its called the bigger picture Quality NOT Quantity.
20 000€ is almost 4x more than my mother retirement pension over year , she live and work whole her life in Poland - and she isn’t only person in Poland who cannot answer why foreigners will cost polish gov more than own population. And this suppose to be punishment for not accepting migrants who want to live in Germany or France? How this suppose to be fair?
My country spends 22 billion a year on refugees and immigrants. Our own population can't afford housing. 2/3 of people on welfare are immigrants not even counting people who are not Dutch but they were born here and are counted like dutch. It's a sick fuckint world man.
Yeah yeah, human rights and EU values, tell that to the hundreds of Europeans affected by immigration or to the two Swedish that died few weeks ago. I'm so fucking fed up of having to understand human rights and EU values while Europeans pay the consequences of bad politicians.
They do that because they have to. The coast-guard must rescue people from the sea because leaving them will eventually kill them. And when these people die you are the one seen as responsible. See: someone has to be responsible for willingly risking the death of people on the sea. Both in front of the public and the court. Who's volunteering?
Please fellow readers and contributors STOP comparing immigration issues that contemporary Europe is experiencing with immigration United States had in the past. It’s completely different
depends on what immigration thing in the US. The 19th century immigration was desirable for the US since they actually needed more people to settle the west and later to work in factories but by the turn of the century the US wasn't really in need of more unskilled, uneducated labor. The more modern immigration crisis is more comparable to that in the EU: some states are being swamped (some places like Loredo are up to around 95% Mexican now), there's massive political division over immigration, and it's causing a lot of cultural and economic upheaval not to mention contributing massively to crime especially since most of the organized crime are Mexican cartels and the largest street gangs are mainly from Central America like MS-13. The gangs and cartels in the America's are almost like Hamas in that they're NGOs with government level militaries and agencies, even setting up their own cell towers, building their own subs, maintaining their own air fields and aircraft, and carrying out military style raids and assassinations. Similar to European countries some states are hit harder than others and some have more ability than others to take in the influx and similar to the EU there's a big argument on who needs to pay for border security as the federal budget doesn't cover all the costs that states on the border are facing especially when you factor in things like welfare, housing, funding of detention facilities, and the raised levels of crime and the lost revenue due to taxes not being paid by laborers. Lately the US has been hit about as fast as Europe as there are times where the border guards intercept as many as 10,000 per day and around 2.8mil per year compared to the EU's 200k per year.
Yeah we stopped using chains earlier in Europe. But reading this comment section I wonder how long till we start again. I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@arthas640 The immigration that is arriving here in parts of Europe from North Africa, Middle East and Southeast Asia is a huge problem and burden for infrastructure, housing, transportation, healthcare and education.
@@arthas640 But there is no will to halt this illegal immigration by some of our politicians. Some countries like Hungary and Poland for example have rejected arrivals from North Africa, Middle East and south East Asia
Everyone tryna explain me the situation about EU immigration, and even if I am from EU, I still don't get one simple thing: WHY CANT WE HAVE COMMUNAL EFFORT TO SECURE OUR EXTERNAL BORDERS LIKE IN SOUTH ITALY? I would love to help Italy to deal with it. all of us. I am from East Europe, so we take care of our external borders. But EU then cries that we are too brutal for not letting in hundreds of angry middle aged Muslim men pelting rocks at our border force. SO WTF?
Asylum laws are simply not supposed to be for permanent stay. Europe can not keep taking in people who will stay forever. People have been against these levels of migration in almost every poll ever but the power that be never change anything.
Well thats because companies want cheap slave labour. In America, Apple lobbies and distributes mass propaganda to allow illegal immigrants in. Its no wonder that hundreds of Apple contracted repair shops got busted by ICE for hiring and smuggling illegal immigrants. Floridian corporations are crying right now that they cant hire cheap ass illegal slave labour, and that they actually have to pay a LIVEABLE WAGE to their workers. Its all so bizzare.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...
People have been saying this for so many years but they've been called racists and ignored. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with culture.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@WillYouVidIn Lisbon, prices rise due to the fact that Pakistanis, Africans and Brazilians live in thousands of homes in a single house, which increases the price of rents and lowers wages.
We need to focus on helping fix the issues these migrants are facing in their countries, which let's face it, a lot were or are being caused by EU countries or the US. I'm sure majority of these migrants don't actually want to leave their countries, risking their lives, but they have no choice.
If their home countries can't take care of them they are incapable. Europe could fix this issue by taking special governorship of unstable African countries to help rehabilitate and support them!
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Most EU countries just don't have the capacity to integrate this amount of migrants, so what you end up with is massive separated communities of migrants with completely different cultures, religion and values, that causes friction with the original population.
Every country faces the same issues.
@@BesthinktwiceI simply love how English were "terrified" of eastern european while not being terrified by the shiv and shank people, turkish, arabs or other ones. The eastern europeans blend quite well (much better than the above mentioned ones) and their children will actually consider themselves english/brittish w.e, compared to how most of arabs/turkish and so on where they will consider themselves english only as the second answer (or first when them boys wanna use the strong passport you got.
Also about the "different people and therefore scared topic", I mean you can say it is somewhat true for some people but let me tell you this: When you know that there are some parts of the city where there is actual threat to your safety of the safety or your belongings, you tend to think: why is that? Well because it is massively populated by a minority i.e. arabs, blacks and so on, sooo you realize that the more they come, the more they group together and shit starts hitting the fan. And it aint solely white/black thing, notice how I never mentioned indians, asians and so on. Well coz they're mostly chill, adapting well and hard working. They don't cause issues. Nor do by far most of eastern europeans (you always got a retard here and there). So to sum it up: if you got certain groups which are more likely to cause issues, you will try to not let them in your home. As simple as that. Ain't about the race, rather about the damn behavior or those races/ethnicities and so on.
@@Besthinktwice look, I think there are definitely migrants that should be accepted, but you can't deny this causes issues in countries, sure accepting 20k migrants when your population is millions won't change anything even if they don't integrate well, but just look at Sweden they have a population of 7/8 mil and have accepted a million migrants, and everything I hear from Swedish friends is that it has made towns/neighborhoods significantly more dangerous, there was even a news piece of the army getting involved to help the cops. Btw would appreciate perspectives on the issue from other Swedes, my circle might be quite narrow.
@@Besthinktwice there is significant difference between migrants from the same cultural sphere like Western/Roman Europe than economical migrants( which should not be accepted by default) whose are from completely different culture/religion/sphere of influence.
Please tell me more about how well you understand London after visiting. I'm glad someone that doesnt live there like myself can tell me what I think. Thank you.
The main problem is that the distinction between economic migrants and refugees has been blurred. Both the left and right intentionally blurr it for different reasons.
Isn't the end effect similar in both cases though? A bunch of foreigners arriving in your country and causing a headache. The main difference is that economic migration is long-term, while asylum seekers arrive in waves. The problem is mainly illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
"the right" which is currently in charge of asylum system is making big buck out of this industry.
Overall the migrants are really just an attempt to bring up gdp and put money into the wallets of the government and capitalists. I personally don’t mind since I’m American, but I think relying on migrants has hurt poorer countries. It’s a literal brain drain.
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t maybe just pay reparations to the billions of people your countries are responsible for destroying and they wont be forced to flock to europe for the small chance of getting to be alive without having to experience literal torture every second of their existence? europe causes all these problems but never wants to be held responsible for all the damages. yall INVENTED INSURANCE but you cant even be honest about the damages you do.
It doesn't matter. I don't want either of them in Europe at this point.
Why all those Muslims can't migrate to the super rich gulf States like Saudi Arabia, Katar, Emirates and others. If they have money for building golf fields or ice rinks in the desserts they should be able to help their brothers a bit.
Quite a lot do, but you more than likely pay no mind to them. And not everybody wants to be executed for Tweets
They use them as cheap labour treating them like slaves
Jordan’s 2.2 million Palestinians:
@@osheridan
Europeans don’t want to be replaced
@@Prideium9001 France 6 million muslims:
The right to claim Asylum needs to be reformed again. People use this as an excuse to enter illegally and also bring a bad name to those who enter legally. Those asylum seekers who are rejected should not apply for work permits. That is the loophole many are abusing it.
apply rule of law
@@AlexanderKarlsson3277in a region seeing falling birth rates, where immigration is the only thing preventing population decline?
Apply online to get preapproved? Like ETIAS
@@AlexanderKarlsson3277 without legal migration Scandinavia is gonna slowly fall apart so :)
It’s funny how your straight up quoting parts of Trumps 2016 campaign. Migrants are artificially keeping your countries young. The aging crisis isn’t going to be stopped until automation or natural selection catches up. Really there is no answer to it. For all you know you could be dooming yourselves.
Immigration is difficult if there already is a massive housing crisis and staff shortage.
The housing crisis is a problem of capitalism
*capitalism
@arbiterargiros
Almost no-one likes capitalism, but do you have any non-populist suggestions?
And not enough time between immigration waves for people to assimilate
"housing crisis" you mean rich retired people living alone in 4 room houses
There is no migration crisis in Poland. Ukrainians or Belarusians who escape to Poland find work, open their own business, pay taxes, thrive. They are from the same culture, they are in huge majority respectful people (there are always exceptions) who learn language fast. The rest of migrants who come to Poland do that on work or student visa so we have no problem with them. If you come to Poland, you need to have a purpose because we don’t give benefits.
Why students are problem? Majority of the non-eu students are PAYING tuition fees and spending foreign money cuz you don’t have scholarships thus they boost ur economy. Especially Turkish ones. I understand you though on Arabic refugees crisis. It’s everywhere. Non-students are also coming there to open up businesses and pay taxes. Just don’t mistake Turkish ppl with Arabs or Africans generally. They are absolutely not the same.
ye poorland kind of a shithole, ngl
pls gief benefit
@@alensufli nah Muslims gonna be Muslims. Statistically higher rape rate, extreme sexism, and cutting people's heads off because they criticized Muhammad who married a child and the Quran that validates all the degeneracy above.
Turks aren't Europeans.@@alensufli
@@alensufli She said they are not a problem.
I actually firmly believe that immigration policies are the number 1 reason for the rise of populism in Europe. Not the sole reason, but the biggest contributor. I really don’t understand where the issue before a solution is found, there’s clearly growing frustration even in Western Europe. It’s not like there isn’t a will universally everywhere at this point. Australia has tight migration policies, Japan has tight policies etc. nobody is even batting an eye about them. I see no reason why we can’t follow their footsteps.
as an aussie myself, are migration policies really that tight???
There is a corporate left-wing interest to maintain a steady flow of immigrants. Corporations need immigrants because they can pay them below the national average, which means reducing the production costs and more profits for the shareholders. Left wing political parties see in immigrants an untapped electoral base, especially in local elections where immigrants are granted voting rights once they get permanent residence which is like an intermediary state before getting citizenship. Immigrants are much more likely to vote left wing parties because they facilitate their arrival and presence, as well as provide them with various benefits.
When it comes to people coming by boat they are pretty strict and effective at least compared to elsewhere. I mean Christmas island and similar are definitely pretty harsh.
Neither Australia nor Japan went to Africa and Middle East colonizing, exploiting people, drawing arbitrary borders, causing conflicts, etc.
If you look at where the immigrants are coming from and why, more often than not it goes back to the mess Europeans have caused.
It’s just coming back to haunt them. It’s like the kid you used to beat up in school is now coming back at you.
People always ignore the physicality of the issue.
Have you considered the Massive Coastline the EU has with the Mediterranean?
And im general the EU members have all signed the declaration of human rights. People come over without papers - when I mean people I mean tens of thousands - good luck investigating each one of them for their origin country and deport them there.
All the far right parties are also making promises they can’t keep.
The true solution, ladies and gentlemen, is to make the North African coast our own jurisdiction.
The solution is recolonization of Africa.
Hot take: I think the 2015 migrant crisis was in part what scared the UK into voting for Brexit, in the misguided belief that it would stop mass migration
Don't think thats a hot take.
Facts.
That is so incredibly tepid a take
plus Russian interference...
That, social Media and fake news pushed on there
I think that the issue is that immigration in Europe especially with regards to the Syrian refugee crisis was that it was forced upon most EU countries without a democratic vote or even public debate. The anti-democratic nature of it all where citizens of these countries were just told “it’s happening, you can’t stop it, cry harder loser” is part of the reason there was so much of a backlash.
It’s that obvious disconnect where the intellectuals in their ivory towers, living in prime real estate and many times gated communities saw no conceivable downsides for them whereas regular EU citizens had to bare the brunt of the problems when you drop a large amount of people who are very poor and from a vastly different culture right into the nations with very little guidance or direction.
Happens weekly here, some village with 500 people gets 2500 immigrants, WHILE NOBODY WANTS THEM
Democracy they call that.
We are evil racists for not wanting our countries overrun by foreign migrating peoples trying to lay claim to our ancestral lands in the first place. That is always the only moral of the politically correct story. An ethic of cultural deconstruction, nay, self-destruction to be precise.
But it doesn't have to be like this. If the EU is indeed democratic as the claim is then it should be possible for its peoples to take completely other route and to chance the course into politics which is actually benevolent to Europeans.
Eu beinf antidemocratic? Where have I seen this before? 🧐
Gated comunities is more an americas phenomenon. I can literally ring the bell of the president of my country or find him swimming at the beach. Usa projection onto europe 😂
@@puraLusa The phenomenon known in America as white flight is recognizable in Europe as well. Those white people who can afford it live separately from mixed, often poorer communities where problems are more common. Suburbia such as in America simply make this more easily recognizable.
When I passed through Marseilles it felt like I was in Algeria. As I walked down the street all I got were looks of disdain like I didn't belong because I'm not Middle Eastern.
That is rather common in many European cities. I can't walk parts of my own city because they have become so called no-go zones. I barely see a Swede when i visit the central part of the city.
Same in a lot of cities in the Netherlands
The Great Replacement.
@@aristocraticrebel It is happening but I don’t think it is orchestrated. I think it is from virtue signaling and ignorance.
It is 100% orchestrated.@@Kosovar_Chicken
You know it's bad when even the Germans pull their heads out of their arses
Its just talk from them to try and stop AfD as I think this government has preposed to make it easier to get citizenship. I also think Germany has been blocking the idea of sending migrants to third party countries within eu discussion.
Just curious - has immigration at all affected your life, like, in any way?
@@soccerguy325yes it has
@@thatvexiolhow?
@@YuruCampSupermacy for a start, they drive prices up in a lot of areas, housing especially.
We want quality migration not quantity migration.
Ideally Europe should have a right of return for people of European descent worldwide. Non-Europeans shouldn't be here to begin with.
true
Big companies want cheap labour
Speak for yourself.
pick the ripe ones with an engineering degree among those who run away from bombings and floodings? Wow you have a golden heart
Who'd not take free accommodation, healthcare, education and allowance simply for just arriving at a country?
🎯🎯🎯
Shit take
@@bobincognito?
And don't forget they are made of protected class of people
Yeee this should only work this way for people that live in eu not for every body. Also the fact the migrants try to force thier own rules in country they came in is just big midle figger from them. I mean there is fact that people need to stay in thier coumtry to make it more rich. Ukrains really escaped from war but wamt to go back as fast on posible while the arabian migrants not only want to staybin eu and live only from free money, but they allso steal ect.
If the big old conventional parties refuse to tackle this serious problem the right and left extreme will.
Lol
Which is why the “far”-right have seen a rise in almost every country with significant immigration
@@user-jj5mp7ib1f lol
@@vignotum132I think this is because their stance against migrants make it far right, not the social liberty or economical policies.
extreme left wants wide open borders, mate.
As an immigrant I can clearly say EU and any other Region in the world for that matter, has a capacity for migration, that is simply not infinite. We have to face the facts. Migrations policies should be constantly updated and developped in a way it provides enrichement for the hosting population and for the minority of migrants. If you flood any country in the word with more migrants than it can handle, sooner or later friction will occur, which gives ground for extremism on both sides. Then there are economic factors which explain like 90% of immigration.
Tell your ppl back home if they want to enter EU they should come to Serbia, we are gladly pushing them thru our borders to EU just to make chaos in EU 😂😂
@@serbianwarrior385 Bro I never udnerstood the Serbia EU love hate relationship. liek u guys want to join so bad the EU but Hate the west and Nato at the same time. How do u manage? XD
@@serbianwarrior385thanks for showing your true colors. It’s always good to know which nation states are your enemies behind those false smiles.
Serbia should go join Putin and the rest of those failed corrupt states of needless human suffering. There’s a lot of them to choose from if that’s your preference. And just leave us be.
The highest number of immigrants and refugees EU can accept to move inside its borders should be defined annually by the market situation.
Open jobs minus how many unemployed people we have in EU. Roughly. Also, consideration of expected market development should be included into the analysis. Zero or negative result would mean zero accepted immigration or refugee applications that year. Period.
If we cannot provide for the people already in EU, we cannot provide for people entering the EU. It is that simple. People are slowly waking up to see this, which is the reason for changes in the common political views.
Focus in international aid should be put into the country of origin, or the country next to it. Refugee camps and humanitarian aid. Not into inviting all these people to EU area. People who want to help can volunteer to the aid organizations and travel to the camps and countries where the problems begin.
@@RaVNeFLoK False smiles??Sorry but what false smiles??Where are u from and what is your country?Us to leave u be??Oh brother we never even bothered u anything, u are ones(Western EU)that decided to attack us and to try take part of Serbia (Kosovo) and make it a independent country!Classy western hypocrisy!!!
Europe needs to make the point that people from the Third World can’t simply turn up on Europe s southern border in the tens of thousands and expect to all be taken care of but need to get a skill or trade first and then apply legitimately from their own countries.
Don't forget that our ancestors here in the US came from the third world in Europe: Ireland, Italy, Slavic countries were all "shitholes" as Trump would say. They were considered backwards, disease ridden, and filthy. Same as today with those people you are attacking. Most of our ancestors did not have skills or trade. I think having a generous social welfare state and a huge migration is kind of a bad idea, fortunately here in the US we don't have that combination. Our immigrants come and work, and work hard and pay taxes.
@@starxenoon8848they are not starving. They are seeking better opportunities. Majority of immigrants are males not children and elderly and not even females. They are aka invaders. I am central asian and i dont know how the fuck Europeans do not see how stupid it is to welcome invaders instead of fending them off.
it's weird how people think the west is an exception to typical laws and customs. It's normal for countries to protect their borders and restrict immigration, has been forever (even back in the middle ages you often couldnt just move into another country or village without some kind of paperwork and/or fee). The people fleeing to the west are often facing the same illegal immigration problems in their home country and they dont like it when it happens to them either. In the Americas for example people think the border with Mexico should be open but many Mexicans are moving because they're being displaced by central and south Americans and the Mexican government uses a lot of their security funding to try and block illegal immigration from their own southern border. Similar is happening across the Arab world as well.
Man, you really did say the quiet part out loud lmao. Racist much?
@@iminyourwalls8309Hmm, I see. So in essence "we go over there plunder the hell out of everything they have, come back home, and then we shut the doors when the people from over there are facing hard times and want to enter our society"
One point that wasn't addressed in this video is the effect this has on legal migrants. As a skilled worker migrant myself I can see what effects this has on my morality when I see the very people I was trying to get away from (i.e. Hamas supporters and terrorists) just become asylum seekers and ultimately are my neighbors again. This will soon change the demography of Europe and a drastic change in values. Legal immigrants will then definitely search for better places.
This is a good take. It's funny how legal migrants go through a thorough examination, yet a lot of those 'from the bottom of the barrel' folks got accepted in the blink of an eye
so being a Hamas supporter is really bad, but being an Israel supporter (as many people in Europe are), that's okay?
You are aware of how many more civilians Israel has killed than Hamas, right? It's roughly 10 times more -- although I'm happy to discuss the exact figures.
Solution shouldn't be to severely restrict immigration, it should be to better process and vet immigrants to let only the good, skilled workers who can provide a benefit to society in. I know so many of these intelligent, skilled immigrants who have been waiting for years/decades for their applications to be processed and their lives are hell while at the same time seeing many other immigrants lie and cheat their ways to citizenship. It's unfair. We need to reform the immigration department to favor a more extensive vetting process.
My family feels much the same in the US. My family is half Thai and many Thais have dealt with their own issues with religious extremists in Southern Thailand, and they also tend to hate the illegal immigrants from latin America since the illegal immigration makes it _so much harder_ to immigrate legally. I've got friends and family who had their marriages picked apart by government bureaucrats because so many Latin Americans abuse green card marriages, and they face the same issues getting work visas.
What's even funnier is that here in UK skilled worker visa fees have become higher because government can't cut money from the other areas to support their spendings on illegal immigrants. So, people who respect the country they moved to and who pay taxes now must pay extra for those who don't respect it and don't pay taxes.
EU gives free money, subsidized housing, no borders, no need to integrate.
There, I did the explanation for you.
As russians
Whey made it super hard to even make visa
And even buying plane ticket from Russia to eu could cost you a too
Refugees really be walking 14.000 KM to the Nordic countries just to say that their country is better.
I mean, everybody loves their culture. It's pretty expected
@osheridan except Progressive Leftists that got all their rights from Western nations and hate those nations. "LGBTQ FOR ISLAM". LMAO
@@osheridan then dont come
@@tyler361t2 Come where?
@@osheridan to europe. if you love your country so much, stay.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Apparently this is difficult for a lot of people
Its racist apparently
@@ВадимВадимович-ь6т What we do in France and we are called racists and Islamophobes. In France you do like the French and you stop all external proselytism. That's all.
@@ВадимВадимович-ь6т enough of that goddamn term, getting redundant and overused
It depends on what kind of migrants is coming. Sweden accepted about 180 000 migrants in 2015 and they said that that Sweden almost collapsed and they would never do it again and Sweden is still not recover from this event... Pretty much same populated Czech republic accepted 180 000 refugees from Ukraine in just a few weeks and total number is higher than 500 000. What happened to Czech republic? Literally nothing!
probably real estate crisis like in Poland rent went up 100%, 1 m^2 in Prague costs 10k euro in city center. This is the same number like in Seattle but salaries 3x higher in Seattle.
One of the reason is that Czech republic accepted people with relatively close culture. Ukranians can almost understand Czechs just through similarity of languages.
Also Czech republic do not provide a lot of support, so many people move somewhere else. AFAIK Czech republic has about 200-300k Ukrainians in the end. And about 100K found a job. Others in many cases are children.
@@michaelw7311 Nope. This happened in CZ(Prague) before. It is even cheaper to buy/rent a flat now than one year before. Max was 4Q 2021 - 1Q 2022.
Real estate prices went up crazily. I have a local Czech friend that pays the equivalent of 500 euros for a hotel room with no kitchen:)))) it did bring prices up and it made it a bit harder to find a job, just like it would anywhere
@@kirillshmidt3776 Not exactly. Do German and English understand each other? They have also similar language and both split cca 1500 years ago... Czech republic provide relatively relatively nice support, but you cannot live on luxury. And I think this is the main reason why Ukrainians(usually mothers with kids) are looking for jobs and much more of them did really find one in just a year, but immigrants in Sweden, Germany(overwhelmingly young men) etc could not after almost a decade...
As a non eu student trying to study in Italy we can literally see the system failing in front of our eyes there is simply too many immigrants that are all processed by same agency. Getting right documents takes as much time as getting a degree here
Georgian?
Ok
Numbers and types of migrants here in Sweden are ludicrously higher than the ability of the country's resources, institutions and economy to absorb them.
To make matters worse, the tax system locks people out of the kind of work that migrants traditionally took up to support themselves. VAT, the Eurotax, in Sweden has almost killed off market trading and tradesmen working independently. Meanwhile, earnings from crime are tax free.
All that before we even consider the differences in culture and values.
The result is a crime wave
many words to say that you are racist
@@sqoerrelwhite europeans have always been racist since ever.
who cares @@sqoerrel
@@sqoerrel Facts don't equal racism. OP never said a single thing to degrade the immigrants, just stated that the way in which Sweden's government has tried to integrate them has failed.
People who cry racism are fucking disgusting and have clearly never encountered real racism. I'm mixed race and I spit in your eye for crying racism when none was present.
@@sqoerrel You are pulling race card in face of same people who were massively pro-immigration. Their opinion started to shift as various problems were rising
If You Work on the border in Croatia You would see that 95 % of illegal immigrants are men of the age 16 to 30. Majority of them are captured , procesed and returned. Their Border Patrol are doing good job.
How is it not a good thing? They are work age adults
Invading hordes then. If you "migrate" you take women and children with you.
@@Matteus-b2rhow millions of poor uneducated military aged hungry men swarming your streets a good thing? Especially when they have nothing to loose, there’s a reason there’s been so much more crime in the west…
@@Matteus-b2r You're assuming they would want to work. Spoiler alert they do not.
@kaiserfranzjoseph9311 Exactly, I'm from Croatia and ive spoken to a group of them, about half of the group worked odd jobs and small jobs in construction and the other half was milking the country for benefits
It is worth noting, the biggest driver of Brexit was immigration policy. The UK would all but assuredly still be un the EU if the migration crisis didn't exist.
So the effects of the EU immigration policy are very significant in the EU.
Yeah but after brexit, their net migration numbers are higher than ever
Migration Crisis have caused a rise of far right parties in all European states as nothing ever did. This situation should never really appear, it's destroying our European culture and dividing us. We gotta stay strong. Personally i'm a liberal person but on this single issue i strongly stay opposite way.
European cultures have been destroyed by the industrial revolution
It longer has any meaning
You cant have a strong welfare state when you litterally give out resources to foreigners who contributed nothing to the country before coming in.
Theres no actual social contract at that point. Its just glorified charity.
You accept these people out of PITY and not out of SKILL and wonder why shit ends up bad.
What! Are you saying you dont just subscribe to one political spectrum or another!
Far right.. like Hitler.. Mussolini.. you consider them Far Right do you?
@@YouFeudTV during last 80 years norms fortunately changed and now far-right isn't identified with straight up fascism
The whole EU needs reform
Top to Bottom
needed it befor brexit, we warned them...
F HUMAN RIGHTS…..Why do Europeans want to be replaced???
Sweden and Germany are paying for ships to ferry thousands of muslim men from Africa to Europe every week.
😂😂😂😂
@@somerandomguyonlineforsome7870 It's true.
Finally you said terror attacks instead of just attacks, thank you
@@SigFigNewton would you also call 9/11 an attack instead calling it what it is, a terror attack
@@SigFigNewtonthen don’t commit terror attacks and we won’t call you terrorists 🥰
@@SigFigNewton who ever commint a terror atack, is no human.
@SigFigNewton calling a terror attack a terror attack is dehumanizing? Boy oh boy.
Its not a crises. It could be stopped any time. Politicians want immigration.
Yes.
True. Immigration is a business, if it wasn't, then it would have "magically" disappeared already..
Imagine someone you don't know comes into your home illegally, then hands you a request to stay. When you call the cops to have them leave or be removed your neighbor calls you racist and ungrateful for their presence.
palestine-israel in a nutshell
Stop invading, bombing and creating civil wars in their countries, problem solved.
@@andrevictor9665 sunnis and shiites don't need anyone's help to kill each other.
Stop blaming the west even for that.
The third world is too lazy to fix themselves, too stupid to know what should be done and too uneducated to stop breeding like bunnies to kids they can't feed.
And many Russians are having extremely hard time even getting a visa
Um, no need to imagine, it's actually happened before through European colonialism and imperialism. You claimed you were civilizing them, which is a defense you still use to this day to defend your ancestors evil actions. Too bad your cultural religion didn't believe in karma, it would have done you some good and probably given you some foresight. Enjoy your new neighbors!
Ireland had gotten so overwhelmed too. We have a housing crisis. So many homeless on streets already, a big number of that is women and children. But suddenly its an issue now because someone who migrated here is staying in tents and other accommodation. The news preaching how it's a disgrace that they seek asylum here and there in tents and hotel rooms. But Nothing is being said or done or even mentioned ahout the overwhelming numbers of native irish population on the streets.
Wasn't your chancellor saying he'll take all Palestinian inn if he could
@karankapoor2701 Dude it wouldn't surprise me if he did say that haha. Like I'm not against helping. But the government had already previously stated there is no cap on the amount of people they will take in. But when there's such a strain on every service already. From the health dept , especially the housing crisis and cost of living. Its just unfeasible.
@@karankapoor2701 dumkof we have prime minister and that was the scottish minister
@@Jammiedodgers91 The only way to fix this problem is by only allowing Asylum applications from non EU citizens in the embassies outside of the EU.
99.9% of them use a loophole by applying tor Asylum in the EU knowing perfectly fine that they won't get it and that they are not qualified enough to apply for a job in Europe over the regular ways.
The housing crisis is not because of immigration. It’s because of capitalism. Housing is use as an investment, so when housing prices go down. They stop building until the prices go up again. When housing prices are too high and people don’t want to buy for that price. The higher rents
On a similar note, you can make an episode about Romania's and Bulgaria's failed accession into Schengen and how Austria is vetoing this decision.
As they should romania and bulgarian are two of the most incompetent countries of EU, you can't trust them to secure their borders against illegal immigration
My first guess is rampant human trafficking, crime and corruption.
Completely false on all accounts. The official reason is luck of strong borders and pretending immigrants come through here, but the vast majority don't even pass near our borders. Not to mention that the Schengen doesn't have anything to do with border control, we already have free access to the rest of Europe even as 2nd class citizens. Can't believe the brithplace of one of the world's worst people would be xenophobic.
@@KAMZA.Yes
Complete bullshit. Austria just needed traction for their bullshit elections. You have no migrants coming through Romania wtf
About a decade to late but better late than never i guess. Genuinely sick of this bs.
*too
Just wait when countries all over Africa and the Middle East continue to collapse. Europe should militarize its external borders now!
be longer than a decade be 20 years
The mood is turning in Europe, hopefully it’s not too late
It is, most have citizenship already. Big problem with 2nd and 3 generations.
This is irreversible
@@francoispignon7459 trust me, women still have the same problems in Europe.
@@guusgeluk3693 citizenship is just a piece of paper
@@aunnaqvi3133 please dont ever speak again
So funny seeing EU struggle with something that was an obvious issue before it even started 😂
And it's even funnier when we see they are the major cause to begin with!
Not true for Hungary in either case. We locked the border down back in 2015, and we never colonized foreign countries like the UK or France.
Have a trip down to Subotica, my dear friend :D@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 yet you still cling to the hope that you might one day steal parts of our countries again. Curious.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Got nothing to do with colonisation, you tool. All people get conquered. That's not an excuse to illegally enter another nation. If that were the case, half of Europe would be allowed to enter Hungary freely.
Europe forgot quality over quantity in regards to cultures of people when it comes to immigration.
Exactly.
It used to be only the most talented and skilled.
Now its just any illiterate medeival villager from your local third world shithole, that just gets imported in mass numbers to turn the place they just immigrated to, into the shithole they escaped from.
Fuck these people. Fuck all of them.
I say this as a guy born from immigrant parents too.
Third world countries are shitholes because of the people that live there.
Thats why you only allow the best and brightest to immigrate.
Its all gone to hell honestly. I feel uniquely in a position to say this without being labelled "racist" by some redditor whos only care in the world, is looking progressive to other countries.
Both.@@SigFigNewton
That's Nazi talk
This is literally first I heard that the relocation only goes FROM frontier countries to non-frontier ones. No one else bothered to mention this detail.
In which case I suspect something's wacky with the official definition of a frontier country (considering the amount of time our media and politicians devote to the issue, and complain about the pact) - Poland is literally on the eastern frontier.
Also the pact will do nothing to discourage irregular migration, it will only encourage more because their processing and housing will be spread across many countries.
(And comparing amounts of asylum seekers and work visas is disingenous at best - Polish work visas were given mostly to two groups, Russians/Ukrainians, or Asians (Vietnamese, Filipino etc. - neither of which is a source of asylum seekers)
polish visas were given out for money and bl0wj0bs. Same story in italy where "immaculate" policemen and carabinieri will pull out their c0cks literally in front of asylum seekers. Or pay their new Alfa Romeo with the bribes they impose on people running from misery and injustice.
"Poland is literally on the eastern frontier." AFAIR the relocations only southern countries as frontier, they also do not count Ukrainian refugees and such as migrants the country has taken. So Poland would still get fined for refusing relocations even while accepting Ukrainian refugees.
@@petris7 that would explain why Polish politicians are so against the relocation rules. Because seriously that is wacky that you only consider one border....
@@katm9877 I recall some of them saying that they'd be fine with the relocations if Ukrainian refugees would count as accepted migrants too.
What kind of a group is russians/Ukrainians? How many russians did Poland take lately?
Here is what i feel is missed in 90% of immigration discussions. people take stances of 'pro immigration' or 'anti immigration' when the reality is that migration is a constant part of state policy and absolutely needed... but also unsystematic and poorly managed migration is a disaster for all involved. And that's what I feel gets lost in these 'pro/anti' discussions: the question is not if we need immigration or not the question is how do we want to manage and integrate it into the rest of policy. As long as we don't have answers to that the rest is just angry noise.
Exactly! Unfortunately, balanced and complex neither give clicks to news articles nor do they win elections.
because only rich people could afford it. credit was not a thing for ordinary people so the financing of trafficking fees didnt exist like it does now.@@Besthinktwice
@@jonathanodude6660 Lol. There were like waves into USA and also some Western people like the Irish, Finnish, Italians were thought to be dirty, prone to violence etc useless shit because some skull measurer said so.
@@Besthinktwice In the Victorian era getting to the UK was also something that less than 1% of the population could afford. Times have changed to be fair 😉
It goes deeper. Because it's just another sign of the system in general not working. Nothing works, and our entire civilization is collapsing around us.
this is a deeply problematic situation which is very very hard to find an easy and humane solution. there's the issue of the people seeking asylum and their human rights. to reject their right of freedom, safety and stability is to completely shut your empathy for another human. it is a true humanitarian crisis. however the large influx of migrants in countries creates issues as well. many countries aree not prepared to receive this amount of migrants. and in the end of the day people worldwide should care about all the conflicts happening around the world and EU should promote peace worldwide. Libya is an example of the interferance of europe and america, which now turned libya into a route for migrants into europe. all the conflicts that happen worldwide can affect europe in the end of the day, therefore global peace is a necessity so people do not need to migrate anywhere in the first place. the poverty of other countries, the instability of other countries, the calamities that affect other countries should be a concern for everyone globally. the media in the west tends to downplay or not give enough cover or relevance to conflicts happening far away. and thats where the problem starts.
It so odd to me that only military aged men are the ones seeking asylum, no children, no women, no elderly. Just men.
Its not anyones "human right" to barge into another persons home. This whole notion is silly.
Libyan parents at the beach: "Don't swim out to much children or the Germans will pick you up." 🤣
My issue is rewarding those who circumvent the proper ways and steal the resources meant for actual refugees fleeing for good reasons.
"Refugees fleeing for good reason" is a slippery slope. That technically says that hundreds of millions in India qualifies as economic refugees. Should Europe accept an influx of people that will outnumber them?
@@hentype the "good reasons" typically means actual refugees like those fleeing war and genocide, not people who move for money and free welfare.
@@SigFigNewton Im sorry but migrant work force wont save us...
EU must invest in its own population by that i mean make life easier not harder, if that happens maybe babies will start popping up . Having families is the stepping stone to a strong country. The problem is that we have been waging wars on families since the 2000 at least in my shithole.
Bringing "Migrants" from the end of the world some of them couldn't live with animals is not the solution.
@@SigFigNewton I cant even have kids mister... How am i gona build a family if i cant have a stable life ? My life is literally on standby..
lol Eurpeans talking about "stealing resources"
lol
Reality is, after the original settlers stock in the US (British isles inc Ireland), later immigrants were specifically picked because of their close ties to northern European culture with Belgium, Netherlands, German, France & Sweden. It was only after than they opened up to counties like Spain, Italy, Greece, Poland and the rest Europe with quotas. After that the US opened up to more foreign cultures, why would they do this? Cultural assimilation, something Europe has failed with massively with uncontrolled immigration from everywhere under the guise of 'blank slate' idealism.
Bullshit, there is cultural assimilation, in one generation most of them become europeans.
Which was the US' best period.@@Besthinktwice
No, they'll never become Europeans. Their DNA doesn't magically change.@@darioildiario3001
@@aristocraticrebel Best time for white men* I'm sure the black guy who got lynched for opening a business or the white women who was brutalized by her husband was having a great time.
The quotas were also placed because of sudden huge waves of immigration. Immigration rates were low of US history but in the mid to late 19th century there was a lot of upheaval in Eastern Europe including tons of pogroms against people like the Jews and countries like Russia essentially tried to expel all their Jews which coupled with war and other things led to huge waves of Slavs and Jews trying to move to the US. At the same time the US was pretty much finishing up the last of their homesteading so the "frontier" was mostly settled and they didnt have anywhere to send those immigrants like they had in the 16th, 17th, 18th, and early 19th centuries. The factories needed labor, true, but not in the kinds of numbers that were arriving especially since the US was leaning more and more towards automation in factories. Those quotes were also set in place to discourage uneducated, unskilled laborers which were the vast majority then as like now. Europe could use some unskilled labor but they're going more and more towards efficient use of labor, automating as much as possible, so they dont need thousands working on assembly lines or working on farms and mines and what they want is educated immigrants.
No matter the time period tons of foreigners moving into a country that are of a different culture, language, religion, and ethnicity who are also uneducated and lack useful skills are a destabilizing influence which is why even in centuries past and even in the pre-modern era were often restricted and controlled. In the middle ages for example you'd often need to pay some kind of fee or fine to move to another country and may face expulsion if you destabilize the country. If there isnt work that only makes things worse for the migrants and the host country as that leads to conflict from the local people that are losing jobs and if the migrants dont have jobs they're more likely to cause political agitation.
FORGET what the politicians want and implement what the PEOPLE want !!!!!!
Some people want high immigration / cheap labour.
@@uanime11%
@@Doge811less than that
@@uanime1Maybe those people should just open a sweatshop in some third world country? It would be simpler.
@@gonzalomcampos Some people just have compassion for asylum seekers.
This is why right wing politics are on the rise in Europe among voters. And I don't blame them.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@WillYouVid All I want to do is that my cities remain as safe as when I was young.
I won't accept that in my 40's the average allahuakbar feels entitled to touch me.
If you want to give your lecture against "inhumans" "inaccessible city center" why don't you lecture the peacefuls that women have RIGHTS too? Gays as well. And while we are at it, teach them what CONSENT is.
Thank you.
0.15% for decades now. A third of births in France are already non-European. You just hate Europeans. Admit it. @@WillYouVid
@@WillYouVidYou’re defending being replaced?
@@calidawg510 it's a matter of perspective. For example, if your perspective is that of a believer in the Grand Remplacement racist conspiracy theory, you can indeed be replaced, no problem for me. You're gonna be easily replaced with as little as a barking chihuahua, but I'd honestly prefer to see the empty void left by your departure. Nobody will miss you. You may disappear now!
EU countries should mind their business in other countries' affairs especially the UK, France, and others who are the main problem. Leave West Africa alone, leave North Africa alone, and others. Maybe they will stop coming.
Yeah, Sudan is doing great, right?
@@bambina5604Well then people wont blame us and use guild as an argument.
They forgot about belarussain - poland border and non stop migrants pressure organized by Russia and Belarus to engage part of poland military in border defense.
Immigration in itself is not a problem since it has always existed. The problem is that now it comes mainly from Africa (sub-Saharan and Magreb) and the Middle East with a little from South East Asia like Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. And most of these countries (except sub-Saharan Africa) are Muslim. This poses a problem in a predominantly Christian Europe. The arrival of people who place their religion above everything else in a Christian continent poses a problem. They have the right to practice but must not proselytize. And all the Muslims who criticize France for Islamophobia. NO France is not ismamophobic. the French simply want to stop all Muslim proselytism. They must live discreetly while respecting the culture of the host country. Exactly as is required for Christians or Hindus in Muslim countries. So no Islamophobia, let's stop these lies. If France is so Islamophobic, why do you want to continue coming to this country? The truth is that she isn't, but at home you act like her. That's all.
Anyway there is now too much immigration in Europe and especially in France, UK, Germany, Belgium, Sweden... with people whose customs and culture are too distant. It must be controlled, LEGAL, chosen. And we must send away the undesirables and those who act like invaders. These are our countries, our continent. It's up to us to choose and not the politicians who just want them for cheap labor. Or the far right and nationalists will come to power (especially in France and Germany). Too bad.
Well
Why did you make for Russians and Belorussian’s that are also Cristian and have similar culture to yours
Not only you made process of getting visa so much harder
But even buying plane ticket can cost you from Russia to EU a lot more than most can afford
How the fuck that was logical in any way ?
When all these Russians were flying from mobilisation
And Belorussian’s from dictator regime
What did you do ?
You shut the door in front of them
However Georgia Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Azerbaijan Armenia welcomed them
I’m sorry but why didn’t you bring them
Because the high majority are young
Educated know English
Against putin
Against war
And in these 4 countries they actually opened a lot of businesses and they pay taxes to them
And giving job for locals
Look at Alexandr orlov a famos restaurant owner that has restaurant in Dubai in EU in London
And he opened 2 high class restaurant one is tanuki Japanese
And one is manana a Georgian
And more more ( that is the name )( a sea ) seafood restaurant and they are very good
in Almaty and luxury sauna in Astana
And in Uzbekistan
And in Azerbaijan
Or Fedor ovchinikov he is also a famos for his pizza chain DODO pizza that also exists in many countries
And guess what his pizza chain is the best in Kazakhstan
And now these 2 are paying g taxes to Kazakhstan
And giving locals jobs a good jobs
And why did not eu do the same ?
Or many other Russians that opened their businesses in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan or Armenia or other places
I get only fiew will be able to do the same but majority will work and integrate
The right wingers are already in power and they NEED immigration.
Send them to Saudi Arabia and their oil rich neighbours. They don't know what to do with all their cash anyway while the EU is struggling.
Send Israelis back to europe and maybe rich gulf countries might consider it😂😂
Fax
After what happened at the cologne train station on New Year’s Eve in 2015, I can’t blame Europeans for wanting these migrants gone. I have read stories of women in Germany talking about how they have migrants sexually harassing them on the street, and how many people have lost faith in the EU.
As an Australian, I used to look at the government with disappointment at their operation of detention centres on Nauru and Christmas Island, but now I understand what purpose it served.
This isn’t an issue born out of hatred for migrants, it’s an issue regarding religion and culture, and the allocation of money. Western culture and Islamist culture do not mix, and many governments prioritise giving financial support to migrants instead of their own citizens, and mention homeless veterans, and how they need to wait up to 1 year to get their veterans benefits, while migrants that give birth in places like the USA immediately get access to healthcare and financial support.
Up until this point, anyone against taking in refugees was considered “racist”, but now people are starting to realise they were right all along.
I don’t understand how German government could turn blind eye on the Cologne incident and start letting illegal immigrants still come in.
@@yulyaart6515 They can turn a blind eye because they're seen as future voters
And that wasn't anything to do with the EU...
Thanks for keeping all of us updated on the world :D
Meloni is the biggest fraud of them all. Never seem someone do a 180 so fast
just usual politician.
A Tony Blair loving "fascist". Utterly laughable.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 yeah. As an American living in a very liberal area with a thriving gay community it was kind of hilarious seeing how many Democrats in the 90s and 2000s went from either refusing to weigh in on gay marriage or even opposing it to waving rainbow flags in a matter of a few years. There were some who even went from opposing gay marriage and saying only domestic partnerships should be allowed to pushing for gay marriage from 1 election to the next. Even icons like the Clintons went back and admitted their LGBTQ+ policies were terrible in the past in order to try and curry favor today. Many did hard 180s once the party line changed.
Yeah not so easy to stop them when you can do basically nothing and tons in the EU and at home work against you.
You didn't listen what the opposition wanted....... Basically taking everyone in.
An European strong solution is needed with different rules not single presidents. (how the hell can you stop them if you are forced to save them, you cannot have agreements and you have even to free them after some time, also the judges clearly opposed the government) more like either things change or people will look for someone that doesn't care about rules.....
She's just a fascist mate. They aren't known for being clever of for doing real work beside pocketing money while pouring kerosene on the hate and turning every problem into a worse problem for as long as they can keep the farce going.
As a Polish person 🇵🇱 who always supported the EU 🇪🇺 I am saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Australia and Japan have great immigration policies, it's time to implement them in Europe to stop the growing frustration and crisis among our population. We need a common and swift deportation policies for illegal migrants, clear cut and STRICT definitions for asylum seekers, and an IRON BORDER enforced by common NATO/European military navies. And we need to implement that NOW
Dude think for a second.
How are we suppost to police evry border in Europe?
Im against this type of immigration aswell but you have to be resonable.
You cant police all the borders, we need another solution.
Saying the first shit that comes to your head dosent help in this regard
Australia and Japan are Islands, so they kinda have it easier. We need a system that works for Europe.
lets build a moat
Both are islands with no borders to worry about, awful example. Secondly, Japan is a terrible comparison, they have catastrophic lack of immigration and growth, their population is literally dying. Unless they either get a massive influx of immigrants in the next couple decades, or find a way to encourage at least 3+ children per family, their population will be so old by 2040 that their economy will be on the brink of total collapse as they lack enough young people to pay taxes. China is also now experiencing this, they have negative growth and a rapidly aging population and almost no immigration (though it will happen for them later than it will for Japan)
@@Victor10576why exactly is it impossible to police a border?
To be honest the EU only have themselves to blame for migration to Europe. They destabilized countries in the Middle East, Eastern Europe and Africa. They colonized countries, destroyed their cities and communities, killed the smartest people and would actually kill leaders if they would nog give cheap resources to Europe. Then they are suprised these people now want to move to Europe. People seem to forget that many European countries also have a job market shortage, so while it’s citizens maybe don’t want immigrants. The companies and government gladly take in immigrants from Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe to boost the economy.
So according to your logic Croatia does not have to take immigrants because they didn't invade or destabilized anyone in fact parts of Croatia even banned slavery in 1416 way before it was cool. Thank you for your contribution here.
Croatia doesn't have a say bro. Obey to your master
@@okakokakiev787 i do not think so. Laughs in 98% white, 79% Christian, 1.4% muslim. Top 15 safest in the world with safest capitol in Euope in 2023. Revolution is coming Germany is already starting to vote right. I would not feel so safe if i were you.
Why the heck is Kaliningrad illustrated as part of Schengen? Is that right? I don't think that's right.
It's obviously not.
As Polish citizen I would just clarify on 800k "work visa issued" by Poland.
In our system "work visa" means "work permit" and it doesn't replace Visa at all. It is a first step towards getting a Visa as a migrants have to justify reason to come - turism, work, studing, etc.
If someone got "work permit" it doesn't mean they are phisically in Poland/EU nor allowed to enter, but it means they are more likely to get a polish Visa once they submit a request.
Some of those requests will be rejected, some accepted. Many of them comes from Ukraine as Poland took a great number of Ukrainian refugees.
And It's odd to me that orher EU countires don't issue that many "work permits". The best way to get along with migrants is to work with them :>
Cheers to all!
I just love how Poland handles all issues and is actually much more farsighted than most eu countries that just seem to be screwing themselves up by their own hands. To control immigrations rules have to be in place, you cannot just be taking whoever. Why should all these people be causing threats to the locals who had built those couturiers?
Interesting. So it's like a pre-screening before they make the visa application? Sounds smart.
I like that youtube now updates the number of likes and views without someone having to reload the page
wasn't worth getting rid of the dislike button though
You love Javascript. Cambridge Analytica and the NSA do too.
We in Poland easily coped with the influx of immigrants from Belarus, why can't Italy act as well as we do?
Because you can't build a fence in the sea.
With your new government I doubt things will be good lmao
look at how many belarusians immigrants there were vs african irregular immigrants bro
@gior987 I am not entirely sure what do You mean but in case I guessed right: W have African and Far East migrants on border with Belarus. And some Belarusian migrants too that get processed via normal government channels.
Because we are tired of taking African immigrants due to other countries fucking their homeland up. Poland has always been eurosceptic, so dont lecture others plz
I strongly belive in fact that most people disagree that its healthy when you replace your own nation with other in the name of profit of some companies that need slaves on lowest possible wages from poorest and lowest educated countries. You can call it whatever you like, it's also not the way to 'fix' demographic problems by putting millions of people inside Europe. Same as it's not help for them in most cases. If you really care for them then you should be against that as well. Because living in worst part of 'random huge european city' with low wages, lack of work due to sad truth- lack of education and skills of majority of those people (I know you will call me racist, whatever, that's the truth ), growing up with violence and poverty for most of them. Then they got mistreated and used by natives, they have problems with language or work, live among crime, frustration grows easily as you can see it all across Europe.
And they childrens sadly grow up in that environment, a lot of them turn to crime or literal hate toward the country they were born and grow up in. And they love Algieria or Morocco but want to burn France or Belgium cause they hate their unlucky fate. It's already proven and in sight that mass, unhealthy immigration didn't work and don't work.
And one more sad fact, europeans don't own them anything. We don't need to help them and yet we do, but it needs to be done different. I don't want another ethnic war when french, brit, german, polish, italian nationalists might start another revolution cause they don't want X nation in their home. Cause all it's needed is unhappy people, some crisis and a spark in the name of some left/right wing govt who will be willing to 'clean up mess' with some enemy they might find. Cause people never change.
..."we Europeans don't owe them anything".
Are you actually kidding me right noe
We don’t, not our generation anymore, and they are killing with guns in the EU on the regular at this point
@AmeenRidwan And what is your point ? Am I or is my nation responsible for millions of people having worse rng in life? We are here to talk and share thoughts after all without closing our minds. Yes I don't think random Ryan from England, Marco from Serbia or Michael from germany is living his life to sponsor and keep afloat family of 4 from Syria when a lot of people barely go by with rent. When people feel unsafe you like it or not, when losing identity that was here for centuries feels bad. Yes we live better and we are more lucky. But life isn't fair. And we work for it as our families did. That's why I would completly support help in african/middle east countries. Immigration on mass do not help anyone.
@@AmeenRidwan bruh we don't keep crying that's like saying Genghis khans descendents owe China or Italians owe the French for the conquest of gaul or Greece owes persia for Alexander's conquest
Fact of the matter is Europe is importing millions of illiterate low iq medeival villagers, and then crying when housing, benefits, and the rest, end up drying up.
Import the third world, become the third world. Immigration is good when their not third worlders.
Schengen is not just visa free, but border check free. Romanians and Bulgarians can travel without a visa in the Schengen area despite not being Schengen countries, but are subject to border checks e.g. showing IDs when crossing the Schengen border.
A good point. Many eurodreamers confuse "The Freedom of Movement" with the truly free movement within the Schengen zone. Practically in Europe, it is either the Schengen border, or a national border.
I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, and the same problem begins in our country as in the EU with emigration from Central Asian countries. When there weren't many of them, you don't notice them, but when the population concentration starts to count in the tens of percent.... You start to notice a sharp increase in crime, drugs, rape, etc. But this is not the worst thing, none of them wants to integrate. Diasporas appear in your country and begin to indicate how to behave at home, forbidding you the holidays and traditions that are familiar to you.
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Иногда славяне видут себя хуже любых мусульман
Hungary's elected prime miniser: "we feel raped". TLDR: "THE DEAL IS A SUCCESS!"
Sadly for a perpetual falling system
well they dont follow the EU rules any way they are cosiying up to russia or did u miss that memo
Why are "EU rules" messig with countries sovereignity, making decisions about their borders, their immigration/foreign policy while also forcing economic ties that would be not beneficial at all for them and would make their country bankrupt.. So at the end should they just sacrifice their nation bc EU said so? nonsense@@AnonIllumi
(btw im not anti EU. the union has its core strenght in the economic alliance between its memeber states but can't dictate and act as "one power" like the usa in foreign affeirs. its simply unrealistic. Most problems are country specific and should be handled separately. Not trying to push everyone under the same umbrella where some can't even fit...)
Mass deportation, adjusting wages for cost of living costs and encouraging native births seem to be the solution.
Welcome to my TEDtalk on what happens when you dont share the wealth to improve the world. Thanks for coming
I know nothing about immigration policy, and this seems like an incredibly predictable result of allowing millions of people from places where cultural values are diametrically opposed to yours enter your country.
This is part of the reason why I didn't want to go to Europe. If you aren't part of their club, Europeans will always see you as less than human. It doesn't matter how much you suck up to them. So I think most immigrants would actually be better off going to North America if they have the chance and can pull it off logistically.
Lol...
This is bullshit. Even though Poland bears the burden of accepting refugees from Ukraine in larger numbers than emigrants from Africa, it is not considered a "frontier" country. We have dealt with over the milion people in last year so well that this problem was practically not felt at all in Western Europe, so no one there now cares about Ukrainians and that direction of immigration. And now we are being punished for this when countries that are much richer than Poland are trying to extort tribute from us for the immigrants they cannot cope with at other borders. Let's be serious. Every endurance has its limits.
Good. Poland is a big part of the war in region
I would happily have my country take on Ukrainians and help as much as possible. But my government is more concerned about taking care of Muslims instead of Europeans.
You also have to keep in mind people, that the more migration there is the more people are in your country that expect low pay and are happy. No wonder wages never go up and rent is always going up.
True, and they rarely _just_ go after the worst jobs like many claim. I work as an electrician which in many places, including where i live, is a skilled trade requiring testing and a license but electricians make more money than day laborers on farms or in the unlicensed trades like ditch diggers or demolition so illegal immigrants will try to do electrical work as well and they're impossible to compete with. It took me years to get my license, i had to spend hundreds of dollars on books and spent countless hours studying in addition to the apprenticeship to the point i was effectively doing 2 jobs for over a year in the lead up to my test, and i have to pay higher taxes and do thing like pay for continuing education. That all means I expect more than minimum wage since i cant be licensed AND work for minimum wage or less and still be able to survive but an illegal immigrant can offer to do the job for half the price and still survive, hell I've seen guys undercut me and still make more money thanks to the sky high taxes I pay that he doesnt. In my area illegal immigration keeps many wages low, it's not a licensed job but people who go out into the woods and harvest wild things like brush for floral arrangements and wild mushrooms used to make pretty good money back in the day, around 150-200% minimum wage and sometimes more, but today it pays minimum wage or even less since there's a million illegal immigrants offering to do the same job for less and they try to beat one another on price.
A major reason why so many jobs require things like education standards and have strict codes or laws is to ensure that those jobs are more skilled, conform to a higher standard, and so they pay well. A major reason for minimum wage is to prevent a race to the bottom on pricing. That's also why in fields like government contracting you have to pay employees "prevailing wage" which are industry standard wages based off both what the average worker makes in that field and what they should be making. Illegal immigration often removes all that creating a race to the bottom and depressing wages across the board. Many people dont think about it but countless jobs have their wages indirectly based off what the average wage is and what minimum wage is, since even when it comes to jobs that dont require degrees people who have an extra hard job or a job that requires some experience or skill expects to make more than minimum wage so minimum wage becomes the metric by which other jobs are compared. A skilled plumber expects more money than a minimum wage ditch digger and when minimum wage rises he'll expect more pay too since if a plumber makes $20/hr but minimum wage is $10, he'll feel like he deserves more when minimum wage goes up to $15/hr and conversely he may need to take a pay cut if suddenly the market gets flooded with people who will work for $5/hr.
@@arthas640 to be fair I'm an electrician myself, and you are kind of right that there are people without a licence that do work and undercut. Customers also expect very low payments. What's funny when they call a real electrician to fix the shit the cheap "electrician" did. The real money is at big corpo or council work, they have the money and expect quality and flexibility. Rising wages are expected for electricians if you are good and if inflation is out of control.
It sure isn't the boss' fault for being a greedy fat cat, ay?
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@WillYouVid what you said could be true but what I said is also true and undeniable.
You completely left out Serbia (a non-EU country that's key in the Balkan migrant route) which get threatened by EU if not letting migrants trough to Hungary and Croatia. EU wants them in and that's the biggest problem.
To come to Serbia, migrants first have to enter in EU countries. So, the question is how they passed through those EU countries
@@duki995 True I was just pointing out he left out a country that's a part of the Balkan route.
@@petemitchell9996 Sorry, sorry, didn’t understand 😉
If the people sit in silent tolerance and governments sit in silent ignorance then this pressure will only build. Eventually the tolerance will wear out and the issue will grow to the point governments can no longer be blissfully ignorant. I hope it never builds to that point. It’s better to fix the borders now and deal with demographics shifting sooner to stop the extreme measures that will be taken later if nothing is done.
Empty powerless threats
@@okakokakiev787 like Jihad?
@okakokakiev787 Well don't cry when it happens eventually. Salut to you. When people rise up and fight, better hide.
@@SuperJibulus "jihad" (whatever that means) was invented and paid by the West
It will never cease to amaze that a continent responsible for more global invasion outside its own shores and borders than any other in history now claims such xenophobic entitlement.
well, according to the un refugee agency, the eu has 12 million refugees, with a major percentage of those being ukranian and russian. for turkey, it is atleast 13 million (according to unofficial estimates by the public) while the ukranians and russians are a smaller percentage. so, i dont get why europeans act like this is such a big deal. a country of 85+ million has 13 million refugees while an multinational organization with 440+ million is a very big deal??
Hilarious how you turks think anyone takes your fake refugee numbers seriously 😂😂🤣😂
13? HaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Because these people arriving on boats aren't exactly refugees but economic migrants that end up on livinv on the social benefits provided by the EU contries and not contributing
@@Lisa-zi6hb true. some countries get more immigrants than others, but for the greek comparisant, there is roughly 1 immigrant per 33 greeks. for turkey, there is 1 immigrant per 9 turks.
@@redleeks6253 the same is true for turkey, but on a bigger scale
@@Lisa-zi6hb how many churches did they destroy? now i wonder. can you send a rough estimate?
also, yes. greece is a christian country. turkey isnt. but, that doesnt change the fact that the us, which is a mostly christian county, has had relatively neutral relations with its immigrants
8:51 Wait a second, how is Poland not considered a frontier country? Poland is literally the eastern frontier of the EU
Geographically speaking, yes, it is.
But using the same measurements it also applies to Ireland (which is a part of the North-West frontier)
The core difference here is the countries that border "the frointier".
In case of Ireland, there's only UK.
In case of Poland, there're Ukraine and Belarus (maybe only Ukraine, I am not sure about whether Poland closed its border with Belarus)
In case of Spain and Italy, there're African and Middle East countries.
Surely, Ukrainians are not the most desirable people on the planet, however they fit much-much better into the EU society than, for instance, arabs (do you remember any shit similar to what arabs regulary do in the European cities done by Ukrainians? Looting? Shooting?).
Want to mention that I'm definitely not a racist, but there's an obvious issue with those migrants from the South...
It's only frontier if there are brown people on the other side. White neighbors are considered "acceptable". Europe is racist, surprise!
@@user-li4vy8mp9o It's kind of depressing how people always try to make it a race issue when it isnt. Like in the US even many of those furthest to the right dont typically oppose all immigration or only want to stop immigration from non-White countries, they typically just want to stop illegal immigration and mainly as it pertains to Latin America where most of the crime, drugs, and foreign guns come from and they rarely if ever even mention slowing or stopping immigration from Asia. If it were a racial issue they'd oppose immigration from all non white countries, if it were a xenophobic/isolationist issue they'd oppose all immigration, but it's more about crime and people coming from Vietnam, Thailand, Japan, or Korea are rarely if ever bringing drugs or crime with them. Whereas the Mexican border looks more like a warzone than anything and its night and day if you ever go to Canada and cross the border there. Similar story with Arab immigrants in Europe: you rarely hear of Americans going to Europe and killing people so immigration from there isnt an issue, same goes for immigration from Asia, but with the Arab world it becomes an issue specifically because of the war and crime they bring with them.
@@user-li4vy8mp9o By which point, both Ireland and Poland should be considered frontier countries, just very much lower on the illegal immigration/asylum seeker intake. It's easily balanced by just making even frontier countries still have a quota, that simply gets readjusted as their illegal immigration/asylum seeker rates rise/fall.
@@user-li4vy8mp9o In case of Belarus, their dictator is waging a hybrid warfare by dumping some aggressive invaders... uhm... migrants at our border. So yes, thanks to him we clearly are a frontier country.
I was hoping he'd actually discuss what is causing the influx in the first place
Update: It's the aftermath of US and European imperial wars in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan that's caused most of the refugees
Exactly, they don't want to be held accountable. They just wanna take reaources and build their countries at the expense of others.
Immigration is one of if not the biggest reason to Europe’s shifting to the populist and far right. I think there needs to be a honest discussion on how immigration is affecting everyone.
Honest discussion:
It doesn’t matter how left or right wing you are, it doesn’t matter how tolerant and woke you claim to be, nobody likes endless waves of uneducated and disrespectful African and Middle Eastern migrants pouring into their nation. The majority aren’t even refugees, they’re technically economic migrants. If nothing is done in the present then a harsher approach will most definitely be taken in the future as the crisis grows and as tolerance wanes. I hope it never comes to that.
As said earlier: Living in the EU should be a privilage, not a right to everyone on the planet.
The EU should be for EUROPEANS.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...
Poland is also dealing with illegal migration as a political attack from Belarus (which is angry about sanctions). Nicaragua has also picked up on this idea of using migration as a way to politically attack a country you are in conflict with (again over sanctions) and is chartering hundreds of flights from Cuba and Haiti full of migrants that it then sends north.
EU to Turkiye 2015: Here, take money to accept refugees and migrants.
EU to Turkiye 2023: Here, take money to not accept refugees and migrants.
turkey
Stop the boats!
Actually it wasn't really a hot issue in The Netherlands (except from bad governance, slow bureaucracy and budget cuts). Mark Rutte brought down the government for tactics, because every public service broke, poverty and inequality got worse than ever and there are elections in November. He used it as a scapegoat to save his own name and the party's name.
I know it was just a minor part of the video, you explained it very well! And all I can think of is: I'm so lucky and glad I've never had to flee my house to end up in this political shit show
kinda true, it still is a hot issue since it directly affects the main problem, the housing shortages!!! refugees get priority subsidised housing, just look at how long the waiting lists have gotten now.
exactly, according to Mark Rutte "study migrants" and Dutch students are even bankrupting the economy because they take out a 2000 euros loan per year to pay tuition fees; but 2 million euros (tax payer money) going into Shell is no problem
@@ysbrandd but to be fair, that is such a small group of people, while the government released so many social houses into the free market and it didn't provide enough houses for starters. You can't blame the maybe tens of thousands immigrants in the past few years that there's a housing shortage of hundreds of thousands. Btw: this saturday housing protest in The Hague!! You should come!
@@MaxVersace On average 1000 new arrivals per week * 52 weeks * let's say 5 years = 260,000. This is not a problem to you in terms of integration and assimilation into society?
It's really quite simple. You have a right to claim asylum in the FIRST COUNTRY YOU SET FOOT IN that is safe. If you're leaving Sudan, and you set foot in Egypt, you're safe. Subsaharan Africa, and you set foot in Morocco? You're safe.
That doesn't work
Does Egypt sound safe to you?
@@leglez3977 Yes
Poland handed over to White emigrants (Christians and Slavs), these are Europeans from Russia and Ukraine. These people are close in traditions, and they easily integrate into society.
Those massive migrations aleays happened in human history. The original european population was almost entirely replaced by indo europeans some thousand years ago.
.Difference is now we have clear notions of nation, state and many ethnic nationalisms.
Historical speaking, a mass increase of immigration of a different language, culture, religious, etc... just different overall from the existing population, always causes conflict and harm unification. The uprising and protests from immigrants based off what happened to Israel is an example. Unfortunately, you doomed your country to be forever divided.
Regardless of political party, many in the UK have lost faith that the government and the civil service will stop the uncontrolled legal migration - note that is legal, the side of migration that we most have control over.
The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in:
- increase of people on benefits. See the governments data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities.
- artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Middle East etc
- increase in house prices and rental prices
- more building on our protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure
- more building on existing buildings and causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. Legislation has been relaxed to encourage this in building. The UK already has some of the smallest homes, compared to Europe.
- increase in violence and crime. There is a general increase, plus some which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Asian (Indian subcontinent) grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children.
- increased demand for extra policing, in the tens of thousands (look at the different police force's online wanted posters, there is a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population)
- increased demand for prison officers, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population). We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these.
- increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent).
- the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact tourism - a quarter of a million people work in the tourism sector in London alone.
- greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist
- hospitals frequently declaring emergencies as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken!
- increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent
- lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, to suit a minority religious population
- the enormous congestion on all our roads. Even country lanes, which were once peaceful, have now become rat runs
- religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating
- increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage
- increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands
MORAL QUESTION - is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited?
And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers?
MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN
The effects of a lot of the above pressures, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should if anything, be the most resilient of society.
FINANCIAL BURDEN
At Budget time in March 2024, the UK National Debt is estimated to be £2.70 trillion!
BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY
Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do.
This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these reduce job vacancies.
Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour!
WHAT CAY YOU DO?
Please watch, action, and share this SW TH-cam video: A Parliamentary petition to suspend immigration to Britain for five years
Regardless of if you think this will give the results that we need, it is important for people to see, that there are many others who share their concerns, and this is one very simple and quick way to do it.
Many thanks, and don't forget to share👍
It's clear you don't know shit about how an economy works. You either work for low wages or you import people who can work for lower wages.
In France, if your 2 parents are foreigners, including illegal immigrants, you become French at 13 if you were born in France.
So immigration stats are totally inadequate to quantify the real situation.
Exactly!
That's exactly how you and your ancestors became french.
Countries should have the right to reject people they don't want
These governments are all five decades two late on migration. When Climate change started affecting the global food chain who will be fed. Indigenous / Foriegners / Young / Elderly / Workers / Non Workers or will it be all our war black markets and riots. Immigration destabilises countries. Less people less Infrastructure required less infrastucture less funding required quality not quantity countries will survive. Multicultural Over populated countries will not survive. Immigration to build growth is a false economy that just makes the rich richer and fills the country with millions more people in the poorer classes. But soon all this false economy unravels and that is where we are now across the world. As I said Immigration is destrutive and destabilises. Its called the bigger picture Quality NOT Quantity.
20 000€ is almost 4x more than my mother retirement pension over year , she live and work whole her life in Poland - and she isn’t only person in Poland who cannot answer why foreigners will cost polish gov more than own population. And this suppose to be punishment for not accepting migrants who want to live in Germany or France? How this suppose to be fair?
My country spends 22 billion a year on refugees and immigrants. Our own population can't afford housing. 2/3 of people on welfare are immigrants not even counting people who are not Dutch but they were born here and are counted like dutch. It's a sick fuckint world man.
We let to much turk in germany and belgium.
Yeah yeah, human rights and EU values, tell that to the hundreds of Europeans affected by immigration or to the two Swedish that died few weeks ago. I'm so fucking fed up of having to understand human rights and EU values while Europeans pay the consequences of bad politicians.
What about the boats picking up all these people would just stop picking them up at the border and giving them a free ride to shore?.
They do that because they have to. The coast-guard must rescue people from the sea because leaving them will eventually kill them. And when these people die you are the one seen as responsible. See: someone has to be responsible for willingly risking the death of people on the sea. Both in front of the public and the court. Who's volunteering?
Please fellow readers and contributors STOP comparing immigration issues that contemporary Europe is experiencing with immigration United States had in the past.
It’s completely different
depends on what immigration thing in the US. The 19th century immigration was desirable for the US since they actually needed more people to settle the west and later to work in factories but by the turn of the century the US wasn't really in need of more unskilled, uneducated labor.
The more modern immigration crisis is more comparable to that in the EU: some states are being swamped (some places like Loredo are up to around 95% Mexican now), there's massive political division over immigration, and it's causing a lot of cultural and economic upheaval not to mention contributing massively to crime especially since most of the organized crime are Mexican cartels and the largest street gangs are mainly from Central America like MS-13. The gangs and cartels in the America's are almost like Hamas in that they're NGOs with government level militaries and agencies, even setting up their own cell towers, building their own subs, maintaining their own air fields and aircraft, and carrying out military style raids and assassinations.
Similar to European countries some states are hit harder than others and some have more ability than others to take in the influx and similar to the EU there's a big argument on who needs to pay for border security as the federal budget doesn't cover all the costs that states on the border are facing especially when you factor in things like welfare, housing, funding of detention facilities, and the raised levels of crime and the lost revenue due to taxes not being paid by laborers. Lately the US has been hit about as fast as Europe as there are times where the border guards intercept as many as 10,000 per day and around 2.8mil per year compared to the EU's 200k per year.
Yeah we stopped using chains earlier in Europe. But reading this comment section I wonder how long till we start again. I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@arthas640
The immigration that is arriving here in parts of Europe from North Africa, Middle East and Southeast Asia is a huge problem and burden for infrastructure, housing, transportation, healthcare and education.
@@arthas640
But there is no will to halt this illegal immigration by some of our politicians. Some countries like Hungary and Poland for example have rejected arrivals from North Africa, Middle East and south East Asia
@@arthas640
You are right about crime
Everyone tryna explain me the situation about EU immigration, and even if I am from EU, I still don't get one simple thing:
WHY CANT WE HAVE COMMUNAL EFFORT TO SECURE OUR EXTERNAL BORDERS LIKE IN SOUTH ITALY?
I would love to help Italy to deal with it. all of us.
I am from East Europe, so we take care of our external borders. But EU then cries that we are too brutal for not letting in hundreds of angry middle aged Muslim men pelting rocks at our border force.
SO WTF?
Controlled migration is good for a country, let in the people who are most likely to integrate and contribute to your country
Asylum laws are simply not supposed to be for permanent stay. Europe can not keep taking in people who will stay forever. People have been against these levels of migration in almost every poll ever but the power that be never change anything.
Well thats because companies want cheap slave labour.
In America, Apple lobbies and distributes mass propaganda to allow illegal immigrants in.
Its no wonder that hundreds of Apple contracted repair shops got busted by ICE for hiring and smuggling illegal immigrants.
Floridian corporations are crying right now that they cant hire cheap ass illegal slave labour, and that they actually have to pay a LIVEABLE WAGE to their workers.
Its all so bizzare.
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...
Yes no obligation to provide permanent stay, but in practice it's very hard to deport people if/when their countries become safe.
People have been saying this for so many years but they've been called racists and ignored.
It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with culture.
I think that every ethnic people has the right to exist in its own territory without becoming a minority in its own country
And yes, people may deny it, but the reality is that races matter 🤷♂️
Its nothing to do with culture. It has everything to do with Europe bombing Middle East
You guys talking about EU's "capacity" do realize that the highest yearly flux we've ever had is 0.15% of the european population, right? Or that even Italy has never seen 0.3% of its newly acquired population yearly being migrants... If the housing prices go up in London you should probably look more at the wealthy acquiring buildings as investment and keeping them empty in London, Milan, Rome, Lisbon, Bruxelles... At AirBnB millionaires who have found a simpler source of profit than hotels by making the city center inaccessible to anyone except tourists wealthier than you are. At thirty freaking years since the last time any EU politician has made anything to make schools and hospitals more accessible...I feel pain reading this. I'm from the EU, I'm still kind of in the EU, and I think I'll need to go further. I bet you hate-spitters are all skilled physics majors and engineers right? Saying so loud that we need to pick the skilled workers. Maybe if you raised your heads you would see more concrete reasons why the price of housing is out of control (millionaires hoarding apartment buildings, airbnb...) or why schools and hospitals are under pressure (no social investment in decades...). Keep thinking this way without making your time one bit more valuable for your community... no draconian militarist inhuman law will save your divine right to a playstation, clean sheets and opinions
@@WillYouVidIn Lisbon, prices rise due to the fact that Pakistanis, Africans and Brazilians live in thousands of homes in a single house, which increases the price of rents and lowers wages.
We need to focus on helping fix the issues these migrants are facing in their countries, which let's face it, a lot were or are being caused by EU countries or the US. I'm sure majority of these migrants don't actually want to leave their countries, risking their lives, but they have no choice.
I would strongly disagree on the cause being external forces.
First, we need to stop the harm we're currently causing (us and America and China)
the west has shit its bed, now it has to sleep in it, fu around and find out i say
If their home countries can't take care of them they are incapable. Europe could fix this issue by taking special governorship of unstable African countries to help rehabilitate and support them!
@@twiggledy5547 Yay, neocolonialism!!
Migration crisis will never end if these regions keep being destabilized. Otherwise everyone is just talking in circles.
It will end once Europe starts protecting its borders.