Rich and Mike's Second TNG Top Ten Video part 2 (of 2) - re:View
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- I've gone cross-eyed! Heaven's Gate! My word! Why let's just call this "Rich and Mike talk some more about TNG episodes they like" this has gone off the rails! Let's not continue to confuse ourselves. We should have thought this out more! Either way, Rich and Mike talk about more TNG episodes. Maybe they'll talk about more in the future?
One thing I can tell you as of right now, neither Rich or Mike have watched a minute of Star Trek Discovery season 3 so please stop asking. Mike and Rich have only watched the first episode of Lower Decks and then abruptly stopped, never to return to it. - บันเทิง
Forget the top 10 theme, just make a series of you two discussing every single episode in chronological order. Do what's right.
Exactly ... Cinema is dead anyway
How ironic, that in 20 or so years we will talk about our favorite episodes from 7 seasons of RLM TNG TALK instead of whatever that current garbage... 🖖
This is the way
@@jimm2100 we have spoken
Screw it. Do the whole series by Stardate and force compliance from the non-trekkies.
"With all due respect Captain, I'm the chief security officer"
"Oh yes, sorry Tasha, I forgot you haven't died yet"
"Wait.. what?"
"Oh, nothing. Don't worry about it. You don't get killed by a tar monster."
"Tar monster?!"
"You just wanted more of a character arc because you're a feminist and you didn't realize this show would be a hit and not just some corny reboot that gets canceled."
"Show, sir?"
"Uh... I'll be in my ready room. Let me know if you see Q."
"?!?!?!"
seethe&fume
@@youtubedj9298didn't Star Trek end the career of every woman who acted in it? Marina Sertis and Gates McFadden didn't do anything else worth mentioning. I can't blame Denise Crosby for worrying that this would be the rest of her life, because it was for everyone else.
@@weneedaladder8384 end their careers?
Type casting does exist and yes, that even happened to the male actors.
The industry is also rougher on women once they reach a certain age.
Mike gets Romulan "phaser" wrong, Rich corrects him and they move on.
RIch gets Farpoint Station wrong, 3 minutes spent making fun of it.
@@Absolutely_Nobody And Mike is a sociopath. No one's surprised.
* sigh * and yet life goes on
This is an abusive relationship
Its always easy to tell who edits and it's usually mike when rich is made fun of. And jay does all the other ones
And everything in the universe is as it should be.
I love the detail that even though Picard finally joined the officers' poker night, his game of choice is five-stud with no wilds; the stodgiest and most no-nonsense poker there is.
"And the sky's the limit."🌌
I always thought that too. Get that wild crap out of here
No wild cards?
Romulans: We found this woman when we scanned your brain
Jonathan Frakes: *Not this time. We made it up.*
Stop scanning the Riker SpankBank!
*chefs kiss
😂😂😂👏🏾👍🏾
Less than a day in and we already have the winner of this comment section. Congrats
**It's a total fabrication.**
Mike and Rich at Tanagra, when the Jay filmed.
Me watching, my eyes wide open.
The beast of Tanagra, Macaulay, his army
Shaka, the wheel falling.
Mike watching Lower Decks, his eyes black
Caliber press, tears deep
I personally loved how the entire plot of every single Romulan episode of TNG is to trick or eventually trick the Federation into war, and then Sisko successfully managed to trick the Romulans into war and it took him a single episode
@@redeemer66666 Garak saved the alpha quadrant.
@@redeemer66666 I choose to give the Emissary the credit cause after finding out the truth, he could've called it in and chose not to
In The Pale Moonlight, not only my fav ep of DS9, but in my top 10 of all Star Trek.
IT'S A FAKE!!!!!
*"All it took was a Romulan senator, the lives of 4 people... and the self respect of one Starfleet Captain."*
Always loved the episode where Data, Riker and Worf were in a casino that was a place set in a dime store novel. It produced my favorite quote of Worf when they find a deceased man in one of the hotel rooms. Data states, "It appears he died in his sleep." Worf replies, "what a horrible way to die."
I lot of folks hate that episode, but I thought it was alot of fun.
They mentioned that.
I learned how to play craps from that episode.
Why are you repeating part of the earlier video
My favorite monster of the week was the barrel that destroyed Worf's spine.
LOL!
LMAO
More likes dammit!
Mine is Alexander
That saggy bastard had no honour
> Mike says “Romulan phaser”
> Immediately start typing furious comment.
> Rich corrects him.
> No longer know what to comment.
ElPhezo I had to stop the video and unsub the channel.
You say Rich corrected him?
Maybe I'll forgive Mike. 😉😂
>Rich says "Farscape Station"
>Immediately see this in comments.
>Mike Corrects him.
>Leave this comment.
"thanks Rich"
I almost usubed over mike implying scotty stole a ship...the nerve.
@@ambushbob5383 RALPH WIGGUM: You usube? That's uposible!
That bit where they go 'some people say they don't care about Star Trek, but just love listening to us talk about it'. Here's me shovelling snacks into my mouth going "ohhh that's me! That's me they're talking about. Do more talk about the Star Trek".
That makes two of us. Though in the meantime I'm few episodes from finishing TNG, and I must say, it is much better than I expected. Not perfect by any means, but definitely worth a watch.
Womble and RLM is the crossover I didn't know I needed.
RLM is responsible for me binging all of TNG for the first time in my life.
Oi, it's my favourite Arma 3 streamer, Socialist Wombat!
Hiya Soviet. Fancy catching you here. o7 Nice to see you again sir.
Picard be all randy and saying "Not now doctor" is still one of the funniest moments in TNG
My favorite part of Rich and Mike talking about Star Trek is Mike acting like he's paraphrasing lines from the show while reciting the exact line.
My favourite part is when they talk about TNG.
I love that Mike was complaining how much he hated "Parallels" back in the 2012 star trek Plinkett reviews and 8 years later he's still angry about it.
There is an alternate timeline of redlettermedia, where it isn't a Star Trek fan channel, but instead Jay is around, talking to a Wizard about 80s horror movies.
That's a good episode. We can know about other timelines without cheapening the timeline we've been following. Just look at Rick and Morty
I'd say it was (it gets cronenburged). That's a problem with the storytelling elements of Rick & Morty as a series.
If Mike hates "Parallels", he's really going to hate "Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness"... if it ever gets made.
@LordMacKarl Rick & Morty is mostly a comedy and as such the plot is mostly a framework for the jokes. To me the multiple paralell dimensions do cheapen the story but does anyone even watches that show mainly for its plot, continuity, or themes anyway? I don't think anyone's enjoyment of that show is hurt just because the existence of potentially infinite versions of the characters makes their actions insignificant in a way. To me in a story that is meant to be taken seriously time travel, paralell dimensions and other plot devices of similar sort can be as damaging, if poorly executed, as those awful "it was all a dream" endings, all of them can make you think you just wasted your time reading or watching that story.
The one where Picard lives an entire life of an old man in a long extinct civilisation. I thought about that episode for a long time after watching it.
That moment when he grips the flute....😭
Same, sometimes night dreams could almost be like that EPIC
The Inner Light
And it's named after a Beatles song. "The Inner Light". One of my favorites.
"And now we live in you. Tell them of us, my darling." The ending minutes of that episode brings me to tears every time. Around 7-8 minutes I will never forget as long as I live.
How did this come out 3 years ago already wtf
This is the video I put on as white noise, it’s an absolute shame they haven’t talked about every episode of TNG and DS9
Time is a hack circle
"It's a fun, single episode."
"But it ruins everything."
Mike's analysis of the impact of Parallel Universes on character importance is the perfect description of Rick and Morty.
@@The_Tauri Just don't mess with space-squirrels.
They're both right and that's the beauty of it all haha.
It's a metaphor for this episode, when you spend a lot of time talking about all the things you hate about one of the episodes you think is the best.
I'm surprised neither Mike nor Rich understood the scene at the end of "Timescape", which isn't at all a Season 1 "Data doesn't understand metaphors" scene. It's a scene where Data, supposedly well along in his quest to become human, is seeking what's described by the human characters at the beginning, where a set span of time seems to expand or contract depending on what's experienced. Data understands the metaphor just fine. He's just disappointed he can't _feel_ it.
“You’re not gonna see boom shadows in Star Trek: Discovery.”
“You’re not gonna see quality entertainment either.”
Photon torpedo away
You can see Michael Burnham pointing a phaser at herself because the actress held the prop backwards and nobody on the set noticed.
boom mic shadow vs nails on a chalkboard
That was a solid burn 😂
You can actually see two tourists or something in the background of episode 2 of the new season. It's when Saru takes Tilly outside, in the background on one shot you can see two people, one in white and the other in blue.
In old days they could distract you with good writing and interesting ideas. Nowadays they use loud noises and explosions for that.
"I was miserable. I couldn’t wait to get off that show. I was dying. This was not an overnight decision. I was grateful to have made that many episodes, but I didn’t want to spend the next six years going “Aye, aye, captain,” and standing there, in the same uniform, in the same position on the bridge. It just scared the hell out of me that this was what I was going to be doing for the next X-amount of years. I think you have to take your chances. I was really young. I didn’t have to make house payments or put kids through private school or support people. I was free to make those kinds of decisions. I’d been in acting school really dreaming of playing all kinds of different things. Whether it’ll happen or not, you don’t know, but you’ve got to give yourself a chance. God forbid you go through your life thinking, “What if?”" Denise Crosby
She was on a good place in life and as a actress you only have so many years in the industry to get desirable parts, it was a bad move on her end. Saying that none of the actress of tng got high profile work after the show was over, so it was a gamble probably delivering a similar career minus the tng money.
@@petewillson205 what about Whoopi Goldberg? xD
@@kondziu1992 Whoopi was a high profile actor pre tng, arguably her movie career was killed by having time on tng.
While that is not the case, all her big movie roles were pre star trek generations movie
@@petewillson205 what the hell are you talking about? HAVE YOU SEEN THEODORE REX?! xD
Goldberg also had a successful comedy career too, so even if film and TV wasn't working she had that as a fallback.
FANS HAVE SPOKEN: WE JUST WANT A SERIES OF YOU TWO TALKING ABOUT EACH EPISODE
omg yes pls. i've watched these review videos too many times
And DS9!!!
@@Simp_Zone Not just every episode of TNG. Every episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, and.. maybe Voyager and Enterprise.
@@nakfoor1846 engage.
I'd watch it.
Mike: "You're not gonna see boom shadows in Star Trek: Discovery." - Rich: "You're not gonna see quality entertainment either..."
This sums up that show perfectly.
Perfectly filmed crap
Shots fired...
@@Pwnstared ... with a backward phaser.
Truer words were never spoken
"That show sucks"
This sums up that show perfectly.
What a brilliant and nuanced critique.
I just about died laughing when Rich says "Your options are goofy looking alien or forehead bumps. Choose."
Considering the end result, I'd say forehead bumps takes it by default.
Maybe I'm just tired of all the forehead bump aliens, but I like when Star Trek gets crazy with other species. I still like the Melkotians in TOS's "Spectre of the Gun" - disembodied floating heads that speak telepathically to each character in their native language and breathe God knows what. They are especially awesome considering this was Season 3 TOS when the budget had been slashed, they were airing during the "Friday night death slot", and Gene Roddenberry stopped caring. So many Star Trek races are bipedal humanoids who breathe oxygen and speak English. The Melkotians had none of these qualities.
all it needed, ALL it needed was a redistribution of facial features. and to not sit there twiddling its fingers (was the same kid in there? he probably didn't know how to act alien)
it's the same shit with people bickering about 2d vs 3d animation, _just draw good faces_ and i'll enjoy looking at them for 11 to 90 minutes a pop.
Its so true though
@@gregbauer4433 funny that TOS, with their budget and time, had more original and diverse Aliens than TNG with all its seasons. TOS really went absolutely crazy with big blobs and disembodied things and weird gods or amoeba's. Although watching TOS it got a bit annoying after a while having like a dozen god-like aliens or aliens with near-god abilities of teleportation and whatnot.
I love the subtle joke at 43:17. Rich says (referring to Worf) "Worf does two things, he makes violent suggestions and gets shots down..."
I think Rich clearly meant to say "gets shot down" as in, he makes violent suggestions and Picard disregards them for a more rational idea. But instead rich said "gets shots down" so we have a shot of Worf drinking something that looks like a shot.
Very funny, never noticed before. Poor Rich.
Next episode should be: "Guilty Pleasure Episodes"
Episode after that should be: "The ones we are supposed to pick as top 10" (Just to finally get the Inner Light done)
One after that should be: "Funniest Episiodes"
Then "Worst TNG episodes"
Then "10 more episodes we like"
Then "Best Data episodes"
Then...
Basically just keep doing this forever
But everybody knows why Inner Light is good. It's at the top of loads of lists and talked about. Fuck sake I even learnt to play the song from it on a real whistle 😂
"Best holodeck/time-travel/period setting episodes"!
The 'worst' list will just end up being most of season 2. 😆
@@Zahgurym memory fades but no1 worst episode would be the one with the electric whips
@@pj4433 lol, the title could have been "Meet the Ferengi"... definitely a cringe worthy episode.
I would buy a blue ray box set of Mike and Rich talking about every single Next Generation episode.
For those who don't know: They put the TNG people in a runabout as an excuse to build those sets and get it paid for by the TNG budget instead of the DS9 budget.
Really!? So they could take a bigger financial hit on TNG which they were in a better position to afford?
DS9 needed to build all their other sets.
@@LeonSKennedy7777 most of the sets for TNG were already built by that point; DS9 was a lot newer, so they still had to finish a few more things.
And yet they never used them? I am struggling to remember any episode of DS9 where they seriously used anything other than the bridge section of the runabouts. Defiant had four (bridge, engineering, meeting room / cafeteria, crappy bunk quarters) and Valiant (another point for that loser episode) gave us the captain's room!
@@eleSDSU What's odd is how similar some of those sets look to Voyager rooms.
This series got me to give DS9 another shot. I powered watched the entire series, it was great. I really appreciate Star Trek now that I'm older. I'll probably fire up TNG at some point. I watched a lot of reruns when I was a kid, but it all kinda blended together in my brain.
good luck. they're not ALL gems.
@@PyrokineticFire1but a lot of them ARE gems.
"Timescape" (S6 E25) (0:18)
"All Good Things..." (series finale) (21:41)
"Conundrum" (S5 E14) (35:43)
"Yesterday's Enterprise" (S3 E15) (50:26)
"Future Imperfect" (S4 E8) (1:03:32) and some discussion of "The Perfect Mate" (S5 E21). lol
Doing the Lords work
"This is what you get for killing Paul Winfield!" - (1:23:09)
@@jukeboxfandango *Magical*
WHY ISNT THIS PINNED
This would be completely fine if they went through every single episode. What an awesome playlist that would be.
I recently started watching it and loving it. And that would be great, as I'm a bit to scared of spoilers to watch this. But I'm also glad I'll have this as an nice way to wrap it all up once it sadly comes to an end.
Pleaseeeeeeeee.
Now THAT would be sequel to Plinket reviews we all are waiting for :)
could also do top eps of ds9, they might be into that too
You know if you let Mike, they will.
Picard: “Suggestions”
Worf: “Recommend a full spread of photon torpedoes” everytime lol
That's so true, that was his go to, you could just imagine him on DS9 with Dax
Dax: "Dammit this draw is stuck"
Worf: "Photon torpedoes full spread!!"
Star Trek: Picard never really happens - Jean Luc has Irumodic Syndrome.
Worf Plan A: Do you want me to shoot them with Torpedoes?
Plan B: MOAR Torpedoes?
Plan C: ALL THE TORPEDOES!
Honestly Picard had toned him down,as on DS9 Worf was questioning Sisco, as Sisco was attack 1st during the klingon/then dominion war.
@@petewillson205 he stabbed his brother in the heart because he asked him to and destroyed a load of Jem’hadar warriors in hand to hand combat in that dominion prison. I think Worf is mentally unstable.
I’d love to see Mike and Rich do their top ten DS9 episodes.
Mike - You're not going to see 'boom shadows 'in Start Trek Discovery.
Rich - You're not going to see quality entertainment.
Awesome :)
Wasn't the point of the final scene of Timescape not that Data didn't understand the proverbial nature of 'A watched pot never boils' but that time is something we experience subjectively? When he turns off his internal chronometer, he is no longer counting time pass in an objective manner. Then he is indeed surprised by the whistle. That is a more human experience of time. It's deep, dudes!
@@Medavelvan I bet you could find someone to model and 3D print you one.
Watching all of these talks has convinced me that Troi and Guinan should have been combined into one character called Guinan.
Lol Phantom Menace Plinket Review. Nice deepcut.
I’d only be onboard with that if Marina Sirtis played Guinan in black face. The show can’t afford to lose her huge Khazar milkers.
Whoopi Goldberg was a big star in the 1990s and I have absolutely no objection to her presence in The Next Generation, but to give Guinan all of the same qualities as Counsellor Troi was a major error of judgement and a cruel slight against Marina Sirtis.
I thought she was Greek?
That zoom on Mike when Rich says "Farscape Station"
The more I watch TNG, the more I realize how "Picard" is an abomination.
Kudos to Rich for noticing the narrative reasons why Beverly wasn't included in the "Encounter at Farpoint" timeline for the "All Good Things..." finale. I had never even noticed her absence in that timeline, but it makes total sense. The writers really had their shit together. I wish Mike and Rich would just review every episode of the entire series. These videos make me appreciate this show even more.
Yeah I enjoyed that
totally
There's another practical reason: it would have required either hiding or de-aging Wesley.
Kudos to neither for missing the plot hole that makes the story impossible: Picard didn’t create the anomaly because the Enterprise never initiated a scan in the future timeline. Q created it. He wasn’t there to help Picard save anything or anyone. It was just another of his games.
Far scape
The genuine friendship between Rich and Mike really if evident here. Something kind of special about it.
...and Mike still makes fun of Rich mispronouncing things.
I like that Rich gets a chance to talk more. We get a lot of Mike's perspective generally with RLM, which is good, but hearing Rich talk at length is a nice change of pace.
Ro and Riker vibes here. They pretend to not get along, but every now and then an alien wipes their memories and they perform energetic coitus for 6 minutes.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy there's no one I make fun of more than my best friends
Worf has every reason to be bitter towards the Romulans. His backstory is one of the most tragic in all of Trek.
His family was massacred by Romulans as a kid, then his father got wrongfully convicted of causing the incident making Worf a pariah to his own people.
He had everything stolen from him but he always keeps moving forward, even earning back the respect of his people through his actions.
Most respectable character in Trek imo.
Worf is still a bitch that keeps getting slapped around and losing every fight that matters
Yes, you're repeating what they said in the video very well in a comment on the video
@@MegaZetathey don’t like Klingon stories which shows they don’t know the first thing about Star Trek. Redemption I and II are the best episodes in the series. Now go and salvage what honor you have left
I still come back to watch these TNG RLM episodes years later, they are very comforting
So comforting!!!!
Can't hear Picard deliver the "unbroken sentence" line without hearing the Pogo remix now
Dark Materia Picard Song for the win.
Was gonna leave the same comment. What an infectiously fun song
@@dank.sinatra Great music video too... so impressed by what he did in post (changing the uniform's color, match Data's eye effects, etc.)
I feel like he should've said "incredibly long, unbroken sentence" instead of "long, incredibly unbroken sentence". A sentence is either broken or unbroken, there's no "incredibly" about it.
@@gregbauer4433 You know I'd argue a sentence could have an incredible nature to its unbrokeness, especially defining incredible similar to preposterous, like, the story Picard tells about the unbrokeness of the sentences is almost too neat to be believed as true, though only as a proverbial description, of course. :p
Let it be known that the Prune Juice scene is a vital scene that influences Worf forever. Long live Prune Juice, Warriors Drink.
That's because it finally makes him regular. That's why Klingons are so pissed off all the time; they don't eat vegetables, so all that damn raw meat they eat has them constipated.
@@trekadam30 he loved it after a single taste. he probably didn't shit his pants instantly.
regular bowel movements were an added benefit of a great tasting treat.
possibly why he kept drinking it
@@PyrokineticFire1 Yup.
@@trekadam30 Tis widely known that "Qua'pla!" actually means "have a good crap!" in Klingon. A reference to a good solid splash.
Tamarians would say "Darmok. Finally after Bran Fibre."
I definitely forgot that that was the beginning of the time travel/ Enterprise C episode until they discussed it.
Of Tasha Yar's death
Mike: "It's realistic."
RIP to all those victims of tar monsters.
Realistic in terms of Star Trek.
These things are on a gradient scale.
It’s realistic in that people die in stupid ways. It isn’t always an epic self sacrifice.
Her death was such a shocker to me as a kid, that a main character could die, and like that...man it made stakes real for me. Like for seasons I thought they could always kill another main character.
And then when she comes back randomly it hits so hard
1:17:51 "not this time, we made it up" "it's fiction." "we got ya!" "a total fabrication!" "this one was fake."
My guilty pleasure episode is “The Royal.” The idea of being trapped in that artificial, looping-reality casino really creeped me out when I was a kid.
Data tossing the smug look after rolling the dice is a fucking top-ten moment for the character
and the astronaut committing suicide over a synthetic world based on bad writing is a clever way of setting up the lore for the arrival of Alex Kurtzman
Pretty good episode!
I love Picard’s expression when he reads the novel and it starts with a dark and stormy night. He genuinely looks like he’s considering just leaving them in the hotel
I liked "The Royale" - it reminded me a lot of the TOS "A Piece of the Action" - the characters find themselves trapped in this goofy situation and fighting against it doesn't work, so the way out is just go with it and play by its rules until you win. One minor plot hole is how Data uses his strength to "load" the dice so he can win at craps. The dice should be as invulnerable as everything else in the place - if Data can damage them, why can't he smash through a wall to escape?
Feels like a vault in Fallout: New Vegas.
I'm telling you. RedShirtMedia. I'm loving these.
Love your videos!
TNG is the best, and these guys love it, and I like watching them talk about loving it.
I would watch an entire channel devoted to Mike and Rich talking about Trek. Make it happen RLM!
My favorite internet movie-guys talking about their love of my favorite TV-series. An almost erotic experience.
@@katey1dog
Have you counted how many red shirts actually died in TOS? It's only 25 or so.
Mikes hate for Parallels is unparalleled.
Just for the bearded Riker it's a total classic.
What's especially weird about it in retrospect, considering Mike's specific complaint about the multiple reality conceit deflating stakes, is that RLM apparently likes Rick and Morty enough to have both appeared in High On Life and had Justin Roiland cameo in a video just before his career imploded.
I wonder if Mike's opinion about Parallels has changed at all, assuming R&M has successfully demonstrated to him that those stakes can indeed be maintained within that premise.
@fakennamel7044You know that Many Worlds/multiverse theory is a real thing in physics? Does the possible existence of other versions of you in reality make _your own_ death seem meaningless to you?
@@TerrenceNowickiAlso, Mike says it takes the juice out of Yesterday's Enterprise. Which is ironic, because Yesterday's Enterprise takes the juice out of Skin ov evil.
Love this, after watching TNG several times I need stuff like this to feel like I can still rewatch the shows but in a different way.
This series should be called Mike ruins TNG by Pointing Out Every Set Mistake only Noticeable in HD
I think that should be a seperate series!
@@jerome1lmyour wish is fulfilled
The fact that mike quotes these episodes so flawlessly is amazing to me
That line from Picard about the guy talking slowly became a great song by Pogo.
Tis better to have loved and lost (ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba)
Pogo slaps.
Rich seems horrified that Mike is trashing the "Darmok" mask. He's not the only one! 😩
It can actually never lose value since it's one of a kind.
Augustus Saint Clouding your childhood memories.
Mike and Rich at TNG with masks flying.
Evans and Stoklasa, the mask hurled!
@@robertbogan225 It will only rise in value.
I appreciate Rich's consideration for putting episodes on his first few lists that he believes would be good for new viewers who've never watched TNG. I happen to be one of those new viewers and now I'm hooked! Thank you guys for introducing TNG into a lot of people's lives. The show has given me a greater sense of imagination and optimism.
I can't think of any better pandemic-watching experience than TNG. I hope they never take it off US Netflix.
A key point of "Conundrum" that they didn't discuss: The characters' fundamental nature doesn't change, even with their memories and 'identity' blocked or erased.
It's actually a pretty controversial stance from the perspective of philosophy or neuroscience.
that is an interesting point. i don't think the episode takes a solid stance in nature vs nurture.
they weren't blank slates; everyone remembered the skills necessary for their role.
i don't know if the implication is that their innate nature is biological or that completely removing that nature would require a total erasure.
having their identities forgotten forces them to rebuild their identity based on the instincts honed by past experiences, despite not remembering those experiences. they still remember the repercussions of facts, they just don't remember HOW they know because they can't recall the facts.
picard still knows that diplomacy is the best victory even though he doesn't remember the ethics lectures at starfleet academy.
I don't think it'd be that controversial, neuroscience distinguishes between "episodic memories" (particular things that happened to you at a particular time) vs. other types like semantic memory (general facts, word definitions etc.), skill memories (playing the piano etc.) and various kinds of implicit associations and reactions (say, getting nervous in a particular type of situation that's caused problems for you before even if you can't bring to mind any specific episodic memories about past experiences). In the real world there are types of amnesia that mess much more with episodic memories than other types, so it does seem to have different neural circuitry than other types, and from the story it seems like that's what was going on here, we don't have to assume they were the same because they still had the same "souls" or anything like that.
Another episode relating to what you're talking about is "Genesis", which a neuroscientist would be more likely to have problems with--the crew are all regressing into animals and Riker turns into some kind of proto-human, and Data says to Picard "His brain is much smaller, sir. I do not believe he can comprehend our language." But then they repair his DNA and all his knowledge and memories are back to normal. I wonder if that episode will show up on the "guilty pleasures" sequel they promise at the end of this video, totally ridiculous science but it does have some good creature makeup and atmosphere.
@@hypnosifl Neuroscience is pseudoscience draped in expensive grants, so it doesn't really matter what it "distinguishes"
I love that talking about STD and Picard was sooooo traumatic, they had to watch a bunch of TNG in order to get their sanity back. lol
Hell yeah. Next do a “bottom 10”
More TNG content is always 🔥🔥🔥
honestly just have them recap every episode so watching TNG becomes obsolete
Top ten bottoms.
I would watch them just discuss every episode.
@@Xxx_EvilSmurf_xxX they'd get Jay in for that one
RED lol. “Rich and Mike watch all 156 episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation”
This Rich and Mike TNG re:View series feels like a farewell love letter before they commit suicide together after watching Discovery season 3.
Surely they would talk about ds9 before the end
I laughed out loud thank you!
Congratulations on your crippling depression and projection of it onto others?
Would Jay and Josh talk about star trek afterwards? Or will this be the end of star trek for us all?!
@@Dorian-_-Gray And crippling diabetes and alcoholism. Don't forget it.
i love mike and rich talking about star wars all day, seriously it brings joy to my heart
Blasphemy!
Thank you so much for this🖖. I don't have a lot of friends and I don't have anyone to talk to about Star Trek. Thank you so much. This episodes mean alot to me. I've watched this episode 5 times already along with the other ones. You really help alleviate the loneliness 🖖
i feel ya man. im sorta in same situation. just rewatched this for 3rd time. so good. laugh so hard on some parts!!
@@2manysidehoes85 LMFAO
I watch this episode many times too: I don’t want to miss anything that has been said🧐
aww
Octo Puff and Kumquat
When the Wheel Fell
Need part 3🌊🌊
Ryan Celsius, you're here too?
Damn.. every youtube channel I like turns out to be a hardcore RLM fan through this comment section
I demand it because they still haven't talked about Klingons. wtf.
Dude I fuckin love your music!! Sick to see you like RLM too haha.. and Star Trek TNG
Ned a part 3
Trapping in Japan with star trek TNG visuals when?
The episode Future Imperfect kept making me think of Frame of Mind, when Riker is caught up in a weird ruse involving an asylum and it's kind of hammy but also a good episode.
6:30- I love how the singularity warp core on the romulan ship just has a cheap oven door on it. no containment system, electromagnetic field matrix, etc.. just an oven door.
Coming Soon: Rich and Mike's TNG Top Five Lwaxana Troi Episodes
The precursor to the ST:Voyager Neelix greatest moments episode.
@@lawrencerinehart5747 neelix was smarter than he seemed.
She was amazing.
I can sense your annoyance at these star trek references Jay.
Would anyone else like to repair some videotapes or should we end this charade?
Half a Life is a great episode!
Rich: "This is my, I don't know, sixth? Pick."
Mike: "Doesn't matter [we're gonna do 17 of these top tens]."
I sure hope so.
It's interesting how "MacDuff's" conversation with Picard in "Conundrum" seems to be the character using the same justifications he might use to quiet his own doubts about his mission (hijacking and brainwashing a superior force to attack an enemy that's effectively defenseless in comparison). Like, you can imagine whoever "MacDuff" is in his day-to-day life telling himself the same story in the mirror, about saving lives by ending the war quickly.
I'm really suprised and shocked more people haven't been reviewing this show.
I mean, Seth McFarlane and lots of famous people loved this show, Star Trek is comicly known for having a passionate fanbase and lots of other garbage movies and shows get reviewed, but I guess since it's an older show, it wouldn't trend on TH-cam or something?
"Thank you for joining Mike and I, as we talk about the last 18 episodes that we've avoided forever, in the 17th installment of this series. This is the 'Gaaaaaawd, WHO CARES' episode. We will celebrate it all by setting fire to Darmok's head, and as you can see Mike has already started to drink the kerosene entirely, so....this episode might not last long (depending on how much oxygen is left in the studio at this point)...."
@@rfrolicarts ditto actually.
1:12:02
Tal Shiar Commander: "Sir what color should we paint our holodeck?"
Romulan Senator: "Calamine lotion."
I love Parallels just for the line "Sir, we are receiving 850,000 hails." The officer says it so nonchalant
"At this rate, the sector will be completely filled with Enterprises within three days..."
_the sky is the limit_
God. Chills every time. Such a good episode.
"You're not going to see boom shadows in Star Trek Discovery."
"You're not going to see quality entertainment either."
Classic RLM. This is why I watch this channel.
I laughed so hard at that. The timing was perfect.
RLM forgot about the missing lighting effect on the doomsday-vision ring in STD so the modern tv crew are not that great at noticing errors.
@@hankhill7827 *star trek picard.
@@defmore5099 Star Trek Picard they accidently made the Federation fleet look identical at the end like someone copy pasted the same ship a ton of times.
Oh wait...
Honestly the fact that someone looked at any episode of Picard and was like "yup this will work as entertainment" sucked whatever hope I had left for the franchise away.
@@AltoStratusX1 hey man. every other race got copy pasted ships in star trek. its fine. the federation just adapted. it has nothing to do with cutting costs.
... sarcasm btw. fuck nutrek. all of it. especially the cartoon.
What we need is a top 5 things we didn’t know about Picard’s office chair
No idea why I have been watching your ENTIRE library lately. But, it just clicked. I just enjoy listening to people talk about things they are patinate about.
New Tamaran Phrase: William Riker, on holodeck 4.
When the clothes fell
@lostfan10000 Your comment deserves more likes!
His knees weak
This is why I love TH-cam, exclusive, self indulgent content not constrained by editors or producers just people passionate about a topic putting out something that other people might like and having fun doing it.
Thanks guys
But why is Mike's voice saying farpoint station over Rich's words?
I've never watched a full episode of Star Trek and still can watch a 90 minute video of Rich and Mike talking about it thoroughly entertained. That's incredible skill.
@@danstaifer2028 Because he said "Farscape" and not "Farpoint"...you didn't watch the video, did you? We know who you are...
@@Corbomite_Meatballs I know.... They made a joke about it. I was referencing the joke since he mentioned editing
Is it ?
God, how did I forget Shooter McGavin was in a episode of TNG.
Rich completely nailed it on the head when he talked about not mentioning "Yesterday's Enterprise" in their previous episode....After those two episodes I watched all 7 seasons of TNG and I gotta say, I'm gonna laugh a lot more when Mike references an episode in the future....it really is an amazing show
Star Trek Picard happens in the "Yesterday's Enterprise"'s timeline. That's the only explanation for it.
It happens in the timeline where Picard never fights the Naussicans, and becomes a weak man bereft of passion and imagination.
I love how Rich compares the Enterprise-C to a hybrid of the D and the A, when it clearly evokes the rigidity of the sleek Excelsior-class Enterprise-B. *sip*
@@NickRaven Nah I think he's right. The deflector dish and engineering is more rounded like you'd see from Enterprise A. Excelsior Enterprise-B had this weird oblong rectangular bits going left and right of the sunken dish. The original Excelsior design is closer to what I think you mean, but even that had a more sunken deflector dish. Or am I missing a joke really badly?
You guys remember when Guinan meets Q and she does these tiger style kung fu hands? And Q calls her a dangerous creature? That was pretty great.
I remember her stabbing his hand with a fork
@@seeingeyegod That's later when he turned human. This was when they first met after "some dealings" 200 years prior.
@@urdnal I think he calls her a dangerous creature again when she stabs his hand.
I thought she way about to shoot Force Lightning when I saw that for the first time.
I was expecting Picard to be surprised but when you realize that he was aware that Guinan was not human it made it awesome. I don't remember if it came up before, but that's when I found out that Guinan wasn't just a random bartender.
Mike: _starts throwing around a priceless irreplaceable artifact of television history_
Me: _laughs hysterically_
My Trekkie heart: *PAIN*
Just like when Picard carelessly tossed into the rubble that kurlin nescar from the masters workshop
One thing that I'd love to hear them discuss is how the Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga wrote "All Good Things" concurrently with "Generations", the first TNG film. How did one turn out to be such a classic and the other turn out to be a disaster of such magnitude as to give us the world's first Plinkett review? This question need answers...
Watching 2 men talk about Star Trek has been easily the best part of 2020.
"You're not gonna see boom shadows in Star Trek Discovery"
"You're no gonna see quality entertainment either"
The first or second episode in discovery they must have have shot the scene from the wrong angle. Because the shot of captain georgiou on the bridge is reversed. The delta badge is on her right side.
@@csciabar Hahaha. That would make sense. I never noticed.... probably because I was too busy vomiting in disgust at how crap the show was....
For the original broadcast, there was a thing that was called “safe action” and “safe title” areas. The boom issue you cited would not have been seen by the audience.
Speaking of never seen again, remember the orphan boy who became Worf’s “brother” after his mother died on an away mission. Cuz the show doesn’t.
Bitter of his "brother" Worf ghosting him, he ended up sent back in time to Old Detroit, where Cult/Drug Gang leader, Cain taught him how to sell Nuke.
To be fair Worf abandoned his own son and erased his brothers memory so being ghosted by Worf is the standard
@@phillipbennington1575 Alexander was an awful little shit. I would have abandoned him too
Orphan gets "adopted" by TNG crew member happened a few times. 'Future Imperfect' had Riker and the OG (and better) version of Discovery's reveal of the cause of The Burn. Worf adopted Jeremy Aster in 'The Bonding'. Then in 'Hero Worship' Data has Timothy, the last survivor of the _USS Vico_ imitating him.
I think that's all the times it's happened in TNG. It's a shame we never got any of them appearing again, though at least with Jeremy Aster he had family to go to so it's not as egregious as Timothy who as far as we know *_was still on the Enterprise but never seen again._*
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's never mentioned if he had family to go live with and no plans are ever made to return him to Earth or his home colony or nearest Federation outpost or whatever where he could be found a new home, so he just seems resigned to the fate of living by himself on Starfleet's luxury gay communist Marriot space hotel battleship where at any time something like what happened to the _Vico_ could happen again. The Federation's policies on looking after orphans are clearly so fucking brilliant.
@@lukematthews1442 I love how you described the Enterprise D that way, no wonder the Odyssey was clapped by the dominion in DS9
I started watching TNG thanks to these episodes! Currently at season 5 and loving it
Regarding Mikes viewpoint for "Parallels" I'd argue that the episode did a good job of showing just how much their choices matter. While there might be "7000" others, there was very clear differences between the universes. Just like how Riker had a clone who went on to become a Maquis, each "RIker" is there own person.
I guess what I'm really trying to say is, if it wasn't for Parallels, we wouldn't have concrete evidence that "Star Trek: Picard" is in an alternate universe.
Mike was off base when he said "Parallels" made it meaningless when dead characters could be replaced with parallel universe duplicates, that would still mean that the duplicate's universe was missing their version of the character. Besides, only Voyager was stupid enough to do it with Harry Kim.
Parallel universes isn't the problem, it's when EVERY possibility gets its own timeline that makes characters' choices seem pointless. Owlman had a good monologue about it in that Justice League movie.
"their" own person. Not "there"
@@tartrazine5 The characters' choices matter to the versions of the characters that made them. Just like your choices matter to you. If there are countless versions of you with other choices in other universes... that doesn't actually change anything for _your_ life.
"If you need me, I'll be in holodeck 4" is the original "I'll be in my bunk."
But Riker has his own quarters with Jazz Trumpet and all. There is only one reason you go to the Holodeck. Lets face it.
@@kleinerprinz99 I think it's a Firefly reference. Maybe some other show too, but Firefly definitely.
The last episode was so good. When Picard says "Und der Himmel ist das Limit" (on german), the camera pans out, you see the ship...you hear the music a last time...it was simply great. And at the same time I felt so sad...empty, because the series I watched for years was over.
For me one of the best endings of a TV Series.
And now in Season 2 of Picard Q is back, snip with his fingers to get rid of Picard is a Robot Storyline and shit on the whole ending of TNG...man...new Trek is so damn bad...
I binge watched all of tng specifically so I could have context for this series, and it was worth it
Fans: "Hey RLM make a podcast"
RLM: "Nah..."
Fans: Enjoying episode 9 of Mike & Rich talk Star Trek
This is a “Podcast with Effort” - William Shatner
Give RedLetterMedia due credit. This isn’t a podcast. It’s a few videos on a topic.
There is maybe nothing worse in pop-cult media than the sort of podcast that’s dedicated entirely to one TV show. Just endless dross and curlicues around an amount of content that can’t sustain it. It’s like those 5-hour rambling “review” videos about whatever 1.5-hour pop sci-fi movie. RLM is smarter (and shorter) than that crap. Even the Plinkett reviews know the value of editing. “GURGLE GA GA GOO MAKE A PODCAST” isn’t the sort of fan I’d wish on Mike, Jay or Rich. Maybe not even on Jack!
Podcasts don't have video tho.
@@Deathfromabove5 They do when you listen to them at work.
@@Deathfromabove5 cough joe rogan cough
Data's makeup does come off. In an early episode where he's playing with a Chinese finger trap, you can see in the HD version of the episode that the makeup is completely worn off his fingers.
Near the end of the episode "if you'd actually gone through all the things they went through with alternate realities and time skips, you'd have PTSD." Like, Picard was outright tortured for an extended period of time, he admits to Troi--the ship's psychologist--that he really did see five lights, that he was just about broken...and yet he's back in command of his starship, having shrugged off the bad words the mean meanyhead said to him. No, he would be retired from active duty and treated for the major psychological trauma he's been through.
Talking about All Good Things, where Picard tells the present day crew that he's experiencing time jumps. That's their day job. All of them have been in pocket dimensions where their friends are slowly disappearing, or where their dead friends are back and they're at war with the Vulcans, or they don't remember who they are, or they're reliving the same day over and over...
You always get this scene where one of them notices something fucky going on and they're like "Dianna, are you alright?" and they're like "...I don't know." By Season 4 they should be used to it, because it's just part of their day job. A crewman says he's been experiencing his day backwards all day, you just asked what glowing things he's touched recently.
Yes, that's what they just said in the video we watched
Space Therapy has got to be amazing
@@edwardhelms Unfortuntely ship's counsellor Troi is also abused and traumatized on a regular basis.
These are some of my favorite videos from you guys. Hearing you ride the line between informed discourse and geeking out. I gain a deeper appreciation and understanding for the things I like.
29:48 Damn, I was REALLY expecting the line to be dubbed, "Let's make sure history never forgets… the name… ꜰᴀʀᴩᴏɪɴᴛ ꜱᴛᴀᴛɪᴏɴ."
"I've never trusted Romulans, and I never will. I can never forgive them for the death of my parents."
They are _dying._
Yep, I was thinking this very thing as they mentioned Worf’s racism lol
That's... arrogant presumption
@@DistractedGlobeGuy LET THEM DIE!
...
@@jstr4life 🤨
Rich to Mike - "Is it a curse to have trouble suspending your disbelief like that?" Mike - "mmmNnnnooo" Shows a picture of Riker by a speck.. 🤣
Rich and Mike got me into Star Trek. I am a full blown Trekkie now.
One of the best things about Yesterday's Enterprise is the fact Worf isn't in it. He doesn't coincidentally show up commanding one of the Klingon ships to attack the Enterprise. The Mirror Universe, and other things like Stargate, lean on that trope incredibly heavily, so it was nice to see they restrained themselves.
If I remember correctly they specifically didn't include a Worf cameo in the alternate timeline as commander of the klingons or something similair is because they knew the Audience would more likely be amused by the cameo than stricken by the Irony of the crew getting killed by their would-be friend.
True. And then Deep Space Nine, usually more capable of restraint as a show, drove that one straight into the ground.
@@Dorian-_-Gray Yeah, I think Mirror Vic was the one that broke suspension of disbelief the most.
@@Dorian-_-Gray I think it was fun seeing Garak groveling on a chain, and it makes the restrained moment stand out more. Evil, bisexual Kira? All day man
col. worlf would make an appearance.
Discovery has 2 months to film an episode. If only they spent more than 2 minutes writing the script.
If those writers could read, they would be offended by your comment.
@@john_squatson Writers who can't read? I always knew they were very "special" people but THAT special? Damn 😁
@@Craplatte pfft, they are WRITERS, not READERS. They aren't paid to read, you know.
Clearly, spending time on script writing would take away from all of the valuable time they are using insulting people on social media and blowing smoke up their own asses in interviews.
43:12 - Worf makes violent suggestions and gets shots down…
*cuts to Worf drinking in the bar.
It took me way too long to notice that.
Lower Decks did the Holodeck clean up duty gag...hillarious
I want to watch Mike and Rich go through the whole series!!!