This is the sort of testing OMC should have done before even thinking of putting this on the market. Behaves exactly how I thought it would in weed. A good and well needed video. Nice job mate 👍
so what do you think he has been doing for the last few years, he has tested it out all over europe, and some of the weediest venues there are, another stupid video, from another fool who thinks there silly little tests, are more conclusive to what Ali and his team have done over the last few years, if you dont like it , then do not criticise something you know nothing about.
i've literally just started carp fishing with virtually zero knowledge, i've been at it for maybe two and a half months now, and even i could see that this thing is an absolute danger, we as fishers have a duty to cause as little damage as we can to the fish, lakes, and surrounding environment, it's good to actually see this thing tested and confirmed to be the danger people thought it would be, hopefully fishery's are quick to get this thing banned. as you say, we are out here putting hooks in fishes mouths, we ARE doing damage, so every single step we can take to minimize our impact should be taken to counteract the impact we have, on that note, i am already shocked at the amount of line and stray tackle i've picked up that people have just left sitting around.
Whatever happened to the art of fishing ? If your that desperate to catch fish go to your average day ticket water where the fish are over stocked and mutilated by being caught 3 or 4 times a day .
I'm honestly lost for words .I wasn't go to purchase these any way only because it's to much mechanics on a rig for me .but after watching this I'm even more surprised Ali has brought this to the market
funny how many people seem to have completely missed the point of the video, or are seemingly unable to visualize what is going on here, yes, the twig is on backwards, because the potentially snagged fish would be pulling the twig from the bottom end, not the top. this video simulates what would happen if a fish was pulling the rig around if it had come free of the main line. obviously people won't put it on backwards normally, as i have seen some say, but that's got nothing to do with the point of the video, the point is, if the FISH itself is pulling the rig that has come off the main line, it WILL snag itself, and then it WILL die.
Ali said they would snap and tried to do it, they didn't snap, then he tried hiding it off screen, blokes a con man, can't stand him after how his gone about this !
Catching at any cost we already have bait boats GPS sonar drones whats next an automatic rod striker with a reel that plays the fish for you and gives you a notification when it's time to land it
After reading all the comments to the video i would say this. Buy or make decent bait. Fish a rig correct to the lake. Bait according to the lake. Don't just rock up and fish the closest swim. Walk the lake for at least an hour. Observe the lake. Talk to those who are fishing. There isn't a magic potion to catch fish, it's patience and water craft. That is basically it.
Great video, confirms exactly what I was thinking. Only thing id say is that the video seemed a little quiet even after cranking my volume up. other than that mate, spot on!
Good video mate. My initial thoughts are that this wouldn't be something i would want to use in my fishing. After seeing it remove weed quite well,your lead set up with one of these might be a better way to remove weed than some cast-able rakes!
@@thefishingdiarybest demonstration of this I have seen like you not an omc hater but this is just wrong at any level. Omc videos don't show this in weed I wonder why.
Great video lad… seen so many places comin out saying “after testing ourselves we’ve decided not to allow this” and was wondering myself what kind of testing, why are they so quick to ban… this puts it to bed for me, a great concept encased in an absolute nonsense design.
Fish safety is a massive part of fishing these days and yes any rig can be made unsafe in the wrong hands but there are tonnes of videos on TH-cam on how to fish safely But this is always unsafe and there is no way of making it safe so for me I would class it as a death rig
not a carp angler but I always thought that leads and bolt rigs were designed to fall off if hook links or main line broke have things changed this looks to be tethered
Not surprised at all by this as it was obvious from the first time we saw this contraption that it was unsafe for this very reason. How people can dispute this fact is beyond me but so many people just don't understand or don't care which is worrying.
apart from the arms they could have been hinged so they can move all the way back as this is definitely a problem and omc must know this as the videos have been removed but personal ive been fishing since the 80s without one so why would i bother now
I'll be honest I bought to try, alao bout the Nash Trigger link bungee style underline for same testing. Reflecting on this agree with the assessments and I won't be using the Twig. Concept is great but unless they can incorporate as an oversize leadclip to release on a line break there's too much risk for the fish. Ref regulation, I see many carp fishers, initially self included, using leadclips incorrectly. If you regulate and have bailiffs checking for twigs they should check flthat all rigs are safe, not only carp, seen some shocking catfish rigs using pike leaders. If you focus on 1 product you won't solve the bad education and thus habits of other rigs. PS sincere thanks for your series of twig videos. Pete
Horrendous contraption and it looks clunky at best…. Even the snap back element looks horrendous, it just seems like it’ll rip through a carps mouth like a hot knife through butter.
It looks horrendous , as a traditional fisherman/ Angler this should be banned , getting into the hands of amateur fishermen will be a nightmare. I’m just dreading the thought of fishery post showing dead carp with this death trap attached to its lip weighted down with debris. Ban this across the board NOW.
when a carp picks up a lead you should give it room to hook itself it's less harsh. with spring loaded things it's quite aggressive abit like a feeder rod can be on the quiver tip which can harm the fishes mouth more.
Not a carper myself anyway but a lit of the comments on here are missing the point tbat it's a fixed rig Yes a lead or a feeder will bring in as much weed but both are normally either running rigs or a drop-off so the most a fish will be dragging is a length of line OK thats not ideal but these things happen
These days I'm purely a lure angler, mostly in saltwater for bass and Pollack. That said I used to do a lot of carp and barbel fishing, using clips and other rigs designed to eject the lead. I am neither for or against this product atm, without holding it and looking over it myself it's hard to make a judgement. Am missing something when I ask could it not be fishing the other way around. Say mainline to a clip, magic twig (other way around, so it looks like an arrow head pointing down the hooklength) then your hook length with your chosen hook rigged how you like. For me then the lead is ejected, the fish is left towing a streamlined piece of plastic that doesn't pick up weed or debris no bigger or heaver that a AA wagler float🤷♂️
Disgusting product designed to catch daft anglers, the carps welfare was so far down the list of priorities when this pointless contraption was made. The amount of gaslighting that has gone on from the brand in a bid to cover up the flaws in this product is a joke. Best thing he could do now is stand up and admit he's made a mistake and pull them off the shelves. Decent little video.
Great vid!!! I'm an advocate of people trying new things and hats off to those who succeed, but with devices like this, whether or not its a good thing for some is another question, after all we still have people who cant remove a micro barbed hook properly from a fishes mouth without damaging the fish, so god help us with this
Is this the eureka Ali product which almost brought him to tears? Jeez!! Reevaluation’s springs to mind! And btw there was something very similar around in the 90,s based on a spring lead. If I remember it was in a couple of shops in Essex!
I didn’t even think about it from this aspect you raise a great point. I don’t think they are any good because why would you need to basically harpoon the fish in the mouth. We’ve been catching fish without them for years so it’s just a gimmick to waste more money.
No more than if I cast a cage feeder into a weedy lake when tench fishing. People just jumping on the latest carp fishing bandwagon, hate etc… looking for anything to bash it. How about don’t just use it in weed 🤷🏼♂️
I am very surprised that someone of ali's fishing history would bring out something so harmful to an unsuspecting fish i would of thought better of him
This would only help with snap offs when the fishes strength causes it (eg poor angling), it won’t help with break offs that occur higher up the mainline, or at a knot, or after getting locked up in weed.
If the main snapped and fish is trailing the magic twig, it would dragging it being the fish behind it therefore the twig will be the other way around from your test. Turn the twig around to truly simulate a fish trailing it.. and then retest..
Sorry Mark - but you’re wrong here mate. I’ve already turned it around from how it should be set up to demonstrate what would happen if there was a snap up.
Looks like an anchor works like an anchor . Its the magic anchor . Tie a spring loaded anchor to your rig today no fish is getting away . Imagine if it was bigger one size up
Guessing this the main reason Fairbrass parted company with Ali. The concept was presented to him whilst at Korda....DF and the board thought it wasn't viable product....Ali did ( clearly shown by all of his promotion of it ) ...left and ran with it. Was it a brave move...going alone?....was it blind greed? One thing is for sure....the market will decide. An extreme example....but ask Openhiemer what he now thinks of his life's work 😊
It is on backwards in this video intentionally. The aim was to demonstrate what could happen if there was a snap up and the fish was left trailing this behind them.
But if you cast a rig out then reeled in slowly wouldn’t you pick up the same amount of line same could be said for a lead clip where people put the tail rubber on to much I don’t see people pushing to ban lead clips
I don’t have an opinion either way at the moment but you said you tied this rig on back to front deliberately so how I see it if the rig was tied on correctly the two side lugs would not pick up any weed or am I missing something here.
It looks to me like omc have a great concept but needs to rethink there prototype and make it more streamlined with perhaps the laching system inside the tube other wise i can see this being extremely dangerous, I'm surprised that any fisheries have deemed this safe.
An sensible & open minded video. Made some great points but the arms not snapping even with the force you used is a bit of a worry. Still on the fence with the product!
As much as this twig is under scrutiny but it’s not supposed to be set up that way for them reasons. It’s been tested for along time. Not just made and put to market
Just use the hermit rig as this is designed to keep the fish hooked as it shakes its head, the magic twig doesn't go off half the time when the bait is picked up anyway even the picture on the packet shows the triggers not been released
It must become carp fishing law to shout "anchors away" every time you get a take with one of these attached to your terminal tackle .... all design should be fish care up ...
I don't think that's safe to fish with. My thinking is when you get a take the fish will bolt off for the nearest weed bed or snags. With them arms open it will clog both arms and get tethered up. Most waters have got boat bans on them so that means you have to go for a pull ( not sex like) but if line brakes that fish is still tethered up in weed or snags. Dead fish. It's the same as if you should crack off on cast. That set up is not for me.
@@richardtofts4977because then it would be a grappling hook on every retrieve. The item is flawed throughout and should not be put in any lake. Its such a risk to fish.
It's a bad design plain and simple. I for the life of me can't understand how Ali and co thought this was going to be accepted by lakes. Surely he has enough experience to realise it's not going to be safe for fish. I'm baffled by the whole fact that he still thinks it's fine.
Hes got the £££ signs in front of his eyes, and now lost any credibility he had left,in my eyes he's got none anyway, after watching an episode of monster carp where he put 24 kilos of boilues and tiger nuts in as loose feed, with mainline boilies at £ 15 a kilo, that's just overkill, even if he does get his for free. 😮
I'm confused though. Ali caught 30 fish in one session with this device and had no issues...??? I understand the concern but surely people are making an issue out of nothing. It is a device that does what it says it does. People trying to slander and defame the man for providing a product that idiots will happily buy and use is shameful in itself. Grow up mate. You've just wasted your time making this video.
30 fish in one session? Really? That’s the first time I’ve heard that and I spoke directly to Ali. Regardless, I’ve never questioned the effectiveness of it hooking fish in my videos. I’m glad you understand the fish safety concern that I’m making. Many people don’t/didn’t. And that was the reason for making the videos. Once people understand the potential risks of their rigs then they can make a decision if they want to use it. I’m just providing my views and opinions. And then people can make their own minds up.
My mate has a couple, the legs have a ridge behind them... this kind of acts like a bit of reinforcement, I don't think they'll break off easily.... definitely not for me I'm afraid
The difference is a lead is designed to be released in a crack off so the fish doesn't drag it around with it. Watch the whole video and it should make sense but shout if you need me to explain it more mate :)
I have intentionally rigged it up back to front to demonstrate what would happen if a fish was tethered when the rig was used the right way around. Watch the video again mate :)
Watch the video again mate. The aim was to show what would happen if a fish was tethered after a snap up. I’ve intentionally rigged it up back to front to show how it collects weed when the fish is swimming away from you / is left with the twig trailing.
As an angler of 45 years experience, i often wonder how i have ever caught any fish without such "inventive ideas" ??? Drones, bait boats, baiting poles 50 plus metres long, underwater cameras, now magic twigs, that resemble " gripper leads used in sea fishing that are designed to snag the sand". This isn't fishing or hunting nowadays, whats next? Carp heroin? Where do you draw the line... This is an invention no one ever needed to start with. Give the carp some respect. Start looking at first of all is it ethical to stick a hook into a living creatures mouth that scares the crap out of it that it changes it's feeding habits and has to hide in snags to feel safe 24/7, anyone who has watched carp over bait knows how on edge and scared they become. Come on give the poor sods some respect, if every time you ate your dinner you got jabbed with a hidden piece of metal that cut your mouth up it would drive you insane...are carp any different your eyes watching carp feeding are telling you they are stressed and scared. Start there nevermind inventing bullshit products that do nothing but make greedy men profits. Angling has lost it's way.
Horses for courses. Use it only in a lake with no weeds or snags with very weary fish. It’s an option to use when it suits the situation. Not a 100% dedicated switch for anyone to make.
Interesting video. I’ve tried to keep an open mind regarding the twig. But the way those arms bend back like that would suggest a design tweak is needed. Maybe the same plastic as a biro lid, because the clip on those snaps if you so much as look at it!
@@rberto3804 The last half of my comment was a joke.. If I was you I’d spend the day looking for your sense of humour.. because you’ve obviously mislaid it somewhere!
I’ve caught plenty of fish with other hooks in them never had one with a full rig in it barbed hooks are the worse then anything and everyone uses them
There is no governance in angling for the way we fish, we are literally self governing, and the more people who speak out about this the better, things can spiral very very quickly. This is about has bad as hormones in bait in my opinion
Hmmmm not that I would ever use one in the 1st place I think after seeing this my mind is made up. Other than physically having one I my hand and seeing something different I wouldn't be comfortable using this specially on a weedy lake. I think OMC need to go back the the drawing board an make some tweaks to make either drop off or let the arms snap really easy. Cutting a V into the arms should make the snap out of the way. Shame it seems to be a great concept maybe they should have had more product testers🤔
With all due respect, the gentleman turned the montage upside down! That is, he didn't set the montage correctly. If none of you noticed that, you couldn't wait to spit on someone.
It's a gadget bought out to catch the angler and to make a fast buck. When you look at the production costs and the retail price you only need several thousand anglers trying it and it amounts to millions in someone's bank account.
This is the sort of testing OMC should have done before even thinking of putting this on the market. Behaves exactly how I thought it would in weed.
A good and well needed video.
Nice job mate 👍
so what do you think he has been doing for the last few years, he has tested it out all over europe, and some of the weediest venues there are, another stupid video, from another fool who thinks there silly little tests, are more conclusive to what Ali and his team have done over the last few years, if you dont like it , then do not criticise something you know nothing about.
If i ever feel the need to put one of these in to my fishing i will have a good look at myself.
If you need to resort to this then fishing ain't for you try golf 😅
i've literally just started carp fishing with virtually zero knowledge, i've been at it for maybe two and a half months now, and even i could see that this thing is an absolute danger, we as fishers have a duty to cause as little damage as we can to the fish, lakes, and surrounding environment, it's good to actually see this thing tested and confirmed to be the danger people thought it would be, hopefully fishery's are quick to get this thing banned.
as you say, we are out here putting hooks in fishes mouths, we ARE doing damage, so every single step we can take to minimize our impact should be taken to counteract the impact we have, on that note, i am already shocked at the amount of line and stray tackle i've picked up that people have just left sitting around.
Two very sensible comments - thanks 😊
Very well put.
Whatever happened to the art of fishing ? If your that desperate to catch fish go to your average day ticket water where the fish are over stocked and mutilated by being caught 3 or 4 times a day .
I'm honestly lost for words .I wasn't go to purchase these any way only because it's to much mechanics on a rig for me .but after watching this I'm even more surprised Ali has brought this to the market
When I first see the rig this was my concern! I amazed he brought it out, but money seems to be more important to him, it like a weed rake l
funny how many people seem to have completely missed the point of the video, or are seemingly unable to visualize what is going on here, yes, the twig is on backwards, because the potentially snagged fish would be pulling the twig from the bottom end, not the top.
this video simulates what would happen if a fish was pulling the rig around if it had come free of the main line. obviously people won't put it on backwards normally, as i have seen some say, but that's got nothing to do with the point of the video, the point is, if the FISH itself is pulling the rig that has come off the main line, it WILL snag itself, and then it WILL die.
Could you try the same with a standard lead clip rig for comparison please.
Ali said they would snap and tried to do it, they didn't snap, then he tried hiding it off screen, blokes a con man, can't stand him after how his gone about this !
I wouldn't use any OMC shit even if it was free. Ali is the biggest helmet in fishing!
Catching at any cost we already have bait boats GPS sonar drones whats next an automatic rod striker with a reel that plays the fish for you and gives you a notification when it's time to land it
That sounds good think ur on to something 😂
After reading all the comments to the video i would say this.
Buy or make decent bait. Fish a rig correct to the lake. Bait according to the lake. Don't just rock up and fish the closest swim. Walk the lake for at least an hour. Observe the lake. Talk to those who are fishing.
There isn't a magic potion to catch fish, it's patience and water craft. That is basically it.
If a sharp hook an 2-4oz lead isn't enough to hook up, something needs looking at in your set up
Naiied in one, your spot on, a sharp hook is the cheapest & best edge in carp fishing
@@nevermindo3100%
Great video, confirms exactly what I was thinking. Only thing id say is that the video seemed a little quiet even after cranking my volume up. other than that mate, spot on!
Thanks mate. Yeah - the audio wasn’t great but I managed to fix it for future videos. Appreciate the constructive feedback though buddy
Good video mate. My initial thoughts are that this wouldn't be something i would want to use in my fishing. After seeing it remove weed quite well,your lead set up with one of these might be a better way to remove weed than some cast-able rakes!
Best video on this subject, anyone using them has zero care for fish safety.
Hahaha
Great video, very interesting, watched your other video too and I can safely say this is something I'll never use!!
Thanks pal 🙏
@@thefishingdiarybest demonstration of this I have seen like you not an omc hater but this is just wrong at any level. Omc videos don't show this in weed I wonder why.
Ultimately it will be down to the fisherys to make a decision if it's not fit for purpose.
Great video lad… seen so many places comin out saying “after testing ourselves we’ve decided not to allow this” and was wondering myself what kind of testing, why are they so quick to ban… this puts it to bed for me, a great concept encased in an absolute nonsense design.
Thanks mate
Fish safety is a massive part of fishing these days and yes any rig can be made unsafe in the wrong hands but there are tonnes of videos on TH-cam on how to fish safely
But this is always unsafe and there is no way of making it safe so for me I would class it as a death rig
not a carp angler but I always thought that leads and bolt rigs were designed to fall off if hook links or main line broke have things changed this looks to be tethered
Leads and bolts rigs are designed to fall off but this device is fixed.
cheers and fixed rigs are allowed @@thefishingdiary
Not surprised at all by this as it was obvious from the first time we saw this contraption that it was unsafe for this very reason. How people can dispute this fact is beyond me but so many people just don't understand or don't care which is worrying.
OMC has produced a right mare with this product. Can't say I've used anything they've released.
apart from the arms they could have been hinged so they can move all the way back as this is definitely a problem and omc must know this as the videos have been removed but personal ive been fishing since the 80s without one so why would i bother now
Ali has had an absolute nightmare with this. TBF OMC will probably never recover from it
It’s just going to get caught up in nets aswell when landing fish and cause mouth damage,can’t see this thing being aloud on many waters
I'll be honest I bought to try, alao bout the Nash Trigger link bungee style underline for same testing. Reflecting on this agree with the assessments and I won't be using the Twig. Concept is great but unless they can incorporate as an oversize leadclip to release on a line break there's too much risk for the fish.
Ref regulation, I see many carp fishers, initially self included, using leadclips incorrectly. If you regulate and have bailiffs checking for twigs they should check flthat all rigs are safe, not only carp, seen some shocking catfish rigs using pike leaders. If you focus on 1 product you won't solve the bad education and thus habits of other rigs.
PS sincere thanks for your series of twig videos.
Pete
Very informative especially owning my own carp lakes - thanks for posting.
Wer abouts pal ?
@@1Life_Deewhere he bought them
@@Lewdog38 I was asking the other chap wrr his carp lakes wer.........
@@1Life_Dee probably in field
@@Lewdog38 clever boi
Horrendous contraption and it looks clunky at best…. Even the snap back element looks horrendous, it just seems like it’ll rip through a carps mouth like a hot knife through butter.
Wasn’t that the Milk Tray Man’s grappling hook? I thought I’d seen it somewhere before….
😂
May be Great using it like you just demonstrated for retrieving Pole sections which come off now & again - That's about It for Me !!
It looks horrendous , as a traditional fisherman/ Angler this should be banned , getting into the hands of amateur fishermen will be a nightmare. I’m just dreading the thought of fishery post showing dead carp with this death trap attached to its lip weighted down with debris. Ban this across the board NOW.
I gave him a good anglers name now he's a kxxbhead. No fish safety at all just money in his eyes. Ali no one kxxbhead.
Already banned ( rightly so) on both my clubs waters
when a carp picks up a lead you should give it room to hook itself it's less harsh. with spring loaded things it's quite aggressive abit like a feeder rod can be on the quiver tip which can harm the fishes mouth more.
Not a carper myself anyway but a lit of the comments on here are missing the point tbat it's a fixed rig
Yes a lead or a feeder will bring in as much weed but both are normally either running rigs or a drop-off so the most a fish will be dragging is a length of line OK thats not ideal but these things happen
These days I'm purely a lure angler, mostly in saltwater for bass and Pollack.
That said I used to do a lot of carp and barbel fishing, using clips and other rigs designed to eject the lead. I am neither for or against this product atm, without holding it and looking over it myself it's hard to make a judgement.
Am missing something when I ask could it not be fishing the other way around. Say mainline to a clip, magic twig (other way around, so it looks like an arrow head pointing down the hooklength) then your hook length with your chosen hook rigged how you like.
For me then the lead is ejected, the fish is left towing a streamlined piece of plastic that doesn't pick up weed or debris no bigger or heaver that a AA wagler float🤷♂️
Ali lost his head on this one!
Disgusting product designed to catch daft anglers, the carps welfare was so far down the list of priorities when this pointless contraption was made. The amount of gaslighting that has gone on from the brand in a bid to cover up the flaws in this product is a joke. Best thing he could do now is stand up and admit he's made a mistake and pull them off the shelves. Decent little video.
Great vid!!! I'm an advocate of people trying new things and hats off to those who succeed, but with devices like this, whether or not its a good thing for some is another question, after all we still have people who cant remove a micro barbed hook properly from a fishes mouth without damaging the fish, so god help us with this
How does it catch
Is this the eureka Ali product which almost brought him to tears?
Jeez!! Reevaluation’s springs to mind!
And btw there was something very similar around in the 90,s based on a spring lead. If I remember it was in a couple of shops in Essex!
I will never use that contraption
Just found my new weed rake cheers mate great video
I didn’t even think about it from this aspect you raise a great point. I don’t think they are any good because why would you need to basically harpoon the fish in the mouth. We’ve been catching fish without them for years so it’s just a gimmick to waste more money.
It's shocking that Ali has released this imo it's just not safe at all
Doesn't the hook link pull free from the magic twic like a normal lead clip? So this could not happen?
No. The swivel that you tie the hook link to is fixed inside the twig.
Turn your volume up on the next video please
Yeah. Will do mate. Sorry about that. God knows what happened!!
No more than if I cast a cage feeder into a weedy lake when tench fishing. People just jumping on the latest carp fishing bandwagon, hate etc… looking for anything to bash it. How about don’t just use it in weed 🤷🏼♂️
one word : BANNED
I am very surprised that someone of ali's fishing history would bring out something so harmful to an unsuspecting fish i would of thought better of him
Why would you not just put weaker line on your leader after the twig so that if something is going to break it’s just a hook and a few inches of line?
This would only help with snap offs when the fishes strength causes it (eg poor angling), it won’t help with break offs that occur higher up the mainline, or at a knot, or after getting locked up in weed.
If the main snapped and fish is trailing the magic twig, it would dragging it being the fish behind it therefore the twig will be the other way around from your test.
Turn the twig around to truly simulate a fish trailing it.. and then retest..
Sorry Mark - but you’re wrong here mate. I’ve already turned it around from how it should be set up to demonstrate what would happen if there was a snap up.
@@thefishingdiary oh ok.. sorry.. didn’t realise you turn it around already..
it’s not a product I’ve used…
Lots like a brilliant weed rake, Ali just needs to re-name it
🙈...why is the part mounted the wrong way around!!????
Watch the video mate and it’ll all make sense :)
Good VDO Im Sure There Wont Be to Many Anglers Out There Willing to Risk a 50k Fine From the EA 😔
Looks like an anchor works like an anchor . Its the magic anchor . Tie a spring loaded anchor to your rig today no fish is getting away . Imagine if it was bigger one size up
Guessing this the main reason Fairbrass parted company with Ali. The concept was presented to him whilst at Korda....DF and the board thought it wasn't viable product....Ali did ( clearly shown by all of his promotion of it ) ...left and ran with it.
Was it a brave move...going alone?....was it blind greed?
One thing is for sure....the market will decide.
An extreme example....but ask Openhiemer what he now thinks of his life's work 😊
Wouldn't the fish be swimming the opposite way, or did you flip the twig round?
I flipped the twig around to demonstrate what could happen during a snap off.
@@thefishingdiary do you think they could manufacture it the opposite way round, so the arms would slide through the weed?
Fish will pull from the other direction so you need to put it on backwards to see how it would work shouldn't pick up weed that way round?
It is on backwards in this video intentionally. The aim was to demonstrate what could happen if there was a snap up and the fish was left trailing this behind them.
unfortunately the volume is very low and im unable to hear what is being said.
Sorry about that mate. I fixed the problem in future videos. Whack the volume up to its loudest and hopeful it’ll work - or subtitles.
Have we not got enough plastic bits of tackle going into our fishing waters already?
But if you cast a rig out then reeled in slowly wouldn’t you pick up the same amount of line same could be said for a lead clip where people put the tail rubber on to much I don’t see people pushing to ban lead clips
Perhaps. But a lead clip is at least designed to release the lead.
I don’t have an opinion either way at the moment but you said you tied this rig on back to front deliberately so how I see it if the rig was tied on correctly the two side lugs would not pick up any weed or am I missing something here.
I tied it back to front to demonstrate what could happen to a fish if there was a snap up and the fish was left towing this rig behind them.
@@thefishingdiary ah I see now many thanks for your reply.
It's the spring mechanism that i also can't get my head around.
At least we know why ali cryed in the release vid.... He knew his reputation was finished
It looks to me like omc have a great concept but needs to rethink there prototype and make it more streamlined with perhaps the laching system inside the tube other wise i can see this being extremely dangerous, I'm surprised that any fisheries have deemed this safe.
It's an anchor. I can see many places banning these
An sensible & open minded video. Made some great points but the arms not snapping even with the force you used is a bit of a worry. Still on the fence with the product!
Me personally, fish welfare comes first. If in doubt leave it out.
interestsing not really a fan anyway plus you could do with more volume on your vid thanks for that 👊😎
Thanks mate. Yeah - need to figure that out. My bad.
As much as this twig is under scrutiny but it’s not supposed to be set up that way for them reasons. It’s been tested for along time. Not just made and put to market
Maybe this will help explain why I created this video: th-cam.com/users/shortsSW_oFflijrQ?si=wAwnviH0rRb-il3z
Thought about getting some of these but after that mate no f__king way they are dangerous for the fish ban them
No I get ya now bud I’m with you ,,, if you have a crack off or loose a fish due to breakage
Just use the hermit rig as this is designed to keep the fish hooked as it shakes its head, the magic twig doesn't go off half the time when the bait is picked up anyway even the picture on the packet shows the triggers not been released
Stop it!!!!!
It must become carp fishing law to shout "anchors away" every time you get a take with one of these attached to your terminal tackle .... all design should be fish care up ...
I don't think that's safe to fish with. My thinking is when you get a take the fish will bolt off for the nearest weed bed or snags. With them arms open it will clog both arms and get tethered up. Most waters have got boat bans on them so that means you have to go for a pull ( not sex like) but if line brakes that fish is still tethered up in weed or snags. Dead fish. It's the same as if you should crack off on cast. That set up is not for me.
I can't see why it couldn't have been oriented to the arms opened the other way, and would be forced closed under pressure.
@@richardtofts4977because then it would be a grappling hook on every retrieve.
The item is flawed throughout and should not be put in any lake. Its such a risk to fish.
It's a bad design plain and simple. I for the life of me can't understand how Ali and co thought this was going to be accepted by lakes. Surely he has enough experience to realise it's not going to be safe for fish. I'm baffled by the whole fact that he still thinks it's fine.
Hes got the £££ signs in front of his eyes, and now lost any credibility he had left,in my eyes he's got none anyway, after watching an episode of monster carp where he put 24 kilos of boilues and tiger nuts in as loose feed, with mainline boilies at £ 15 a kilo, that's just overkill, even if he does get his for free. 😮
I'm confused though. Ali caught 30 fish in one session with this device and had no issues...??? I understand the concern but surely people are making an issue out of nothing. It is a device that does what it says it does. People trying to slander and defame the man for providing a product that idiots will happily buy and use is shameful in itself. Grow up mate. You've just wasted your time making this video.
30 fish in one session? Really? That’s the first time I’ve heard that and I spoke directly to Ali.
Regardless, I’ve never questioned the effectiveness of it hooking fish in my videos.
I’m glad you understand the fish safety concern that I’m making.
Many people don’t/didn’t. And that was the reason for making the videos.
Once people understand the potential risks of their rigs then they can make a decision if they want to use it.
I’m just providing my views and opinions. And then people can make their own minds up.
Brilliant video
My mate has a couple, the legs have a ridge behind them... this kind of acts like a bit of reinforcement, I don't think they'll break off easily.... definitely not for me I'm afraid
So it brings in about the same amount as a lead when coming through thick weed?
The difference is a lead is designed to be released in a crack off so the fish doesn't drag it around with it. Watch the whole video and it should make sense but shout if you need me to explain it more mate :)
But when the fish is attached to the end it would be pulling it the other way
I have intentionally rigged it up back to front to demonstrate what would happen if a fish was tethered when the rig was used the right way around. Watch the video again mate :)
I have seen hundreds of fish bring in much more weed without the twig than what this test dragged in....
Watch the video again mate. The aim was to show what would happen if a fish was tethered after a snap up. I’ve intentionally rigged it up back to front to show how it collects weed when the fish is swimming away from you / is left with the twig trailing.
its got death rig written all over it, I cant believe it ever got to market
As an angler of 45 years experience, i often wonder how i have ever caught any fish without such "inventive ideas" ??? Drones, bait boats, baiting poles 50 plus metres long, underwater cameras, now magic twigs, that resemble " gripper leads used in sea fishing that are designed to snag the sand".
This isn't fishing or hunting nowadays, whats next? Carp heroin? Where do you draw the line... This is an invention no one ever needed to start with. Give the carp some respect. Start looking at first of all is it ethical to stick a hook into a living creatures mouth that scares the crap out of it that it changes it's feeding habits and has to hide in snags to feel safe 24/7, anyone who has watched carp over bait knows how on edge and scared they become. Come on give the poor sods some respect, if every time you ate your dinner you got jabbed with a hidden piece of metal that cut your mouth up it would drive you insane...are carp any different your eyes watching carp feeding are telling you they are stressed and scared. Start there nevermind inventing bullshit products that do nothing but make greedy men profits. Angling has lost it's way.
Ali see's the £££ and looks no further. I think this simple and basic test shows this product should not be for Sale.
i would like to see you point the rod flat and reel
Magic twig now called the "crucifix" will have long term reputational damage to OMC.
Horses for courses. Use it only in a lake with no weeds or snags with very weary fish. It’s an option to use when it suits the situation. Not a 100% dedicated switch for anyone to make.
A sensible suggestion Dennis. Some will choose to use it and some won’t. Same as all other rigs.
We have to use tubing to protect the fishes flanks , so maybe the twig isn’t such a money making blind mistake😂
He should recall them back to be destroyed and never mentioned again back to the drawing board ali 😂
you do realize the fish will be pulling the other way so the arms will be the other way for the fish.
No mate - they wont be - watch the video again or maybe check out the video short on my page as theres a diagram in there that explains it :)
What has carp fishing become. Catch at all costs sheep following the so called "names" awful!
Interesting video. I’ve tried to keep an open mind regarding the twig. But the way those arms bend back like that would suggest a design tweak is needed. Maybe the same plastic as a biro lid, because the clip on those snaps if you so much as look at it!
And leave loads of bits of plastic in the lake?
@@rberto3804 The last half of my comment was a joke.. If I was you I’d spend the day looking for your sense of humour.. because you’ve obviously mislaid it somewhere!
@stur2781 feeling a bit sensitive today are we?
I’ve caught plenty of fish with other hooks in them never had one with a full rig in it barbed hooks are the worse then anything and everyone uses them
Great video but aren't you using it the wrong way? The quick link should be to the hook end not the way you have it setup..
I’ve set it up back to front intentionally to demonstrate what would happen if there was a snap up and the fish was left dragging the rig around :)
Interesting, I wonder how long this product will be on the market for... Great idea but fish safety comes first. @@thefishingdiary
That's a tethered dead fish all day long
Imo there's no place in fishing for such contraptions. Back to basics, hook and line
right? "magic" inventions like this simply take the sport out of fishing.
There is no governance in angling for the way we fish, we are literally self governing, and the more people who speak out about this the better, things can spiral very very quickly. This is about has bad as hormones in bait in my opinion
Yet the very essence of fishing Is hauling it out by its gob for a photo for some kind of fun I can’t follow the logic in our sport
@@Dan_D1215 perhaps people care about when it goes horribly wrong
With a carp attached to the end it would be no more than usual amount of weed...!!
Hmmmm not that I would ever use one in the 1st place I think after seeing this my mind is made up. Other than physically having one I my hand and seeing something different I wouldn't be comfortable using this specially on a weedy lake. I think OMC need to go back the the drawing board an make some tweaks to make either drop off or let the arms snap really easy. Cutting a V into the arms should make the snap out of the way. Shame it seems to be a great concept maybe they should have had more product testers🤔
With all due respect, the gentleman turned the montage upside down! That is, he didn't set the montage correctly. If none of you noticed that, you couldn't wait to spit on someone.
The rig was intentionally set up back to front to demonstrate what could happen if there was a snap up and the fish was tethered to the Twig.
Every system can be potentially dangerous, but ok what would happen if it was
It's a gadget bought out to catch the angler and to make a fast buck. When you look at the production costs and the retail price you only need several thousand anglers trying it and it amounts to millions in someone's bank account.