The views expressed in this video are my personal opinion. It's okay that we don't all feel the same way about something. Some of you might love The Magic Twig and that's okay. But if you want to know more about my concerns with the product then please check out my other videos on my channel. Oh, and Ali and I spent 90 minutes on the phone a while back and we agreed to disagree - again, all love to the man and his own personal mission.
If Ali did pull this, there will be a copy on the market before you can say OMC. I have to admit I haven't used the twig, baitboat, sonar or bushwacker, and never will. I do agree with you, and hate the catch at all costs mentality today. The environment and fish must come first.
I'm not sure if the post is still on utube. There was a post with Ail and I think a plumber from up north who had , possibly not the first. Had the concept of the twig as we see it today. Outside waiting for the patent office in London to open , to register a patent on the twig and Ali excitingly building up anticipation of a game changing product that needed a urgent patent to stop any copies. I don't beleve any of the big names in angling will produce this product. Adverse publicity against, financial gain and the product is patent. Possibly a more dangerous copy from the far east on Amazon. Great to know you won't use it. One thing any bolt rig relies on, is sharp hooks, that's as ture today as when I first used a bolt rig in 1982. If this isn't the number one component, then learn to strike and be prepared to lose lots of fish, I learnt this the hard way.
There’s been some OMC stuff I wanted to try but refuse to send any money their way after the twig. But tbh recently I’ve seen some vids of theirs where they literally use 10+ components for a rig. It’s just all about money now
Thank you for posting this, very well articulated, it echoes mine and many other anglers feelings. Really disappointed in Ali, he’s surely better than this. As you say I’m sure he’d gain a lot of respect if he put his hands up and said sorry we got this one wrong.
While fishing with the drop shot my weight became entangled with another weight. There also appeared to be a Zander on a broken line carrying the weight behind him. The entire mouth of the fish was damaged. I think the fish got snagged behind all sorts of stuff The fish was not strong enough to break the line between the hook and the weight This was an awful sight.
A balanced video on a product, if used as instructed, is not fish safe and remember is sold world wide were fish safety isn't as paramount as it is in the Uk. I also admire Ail. Breaking away from Korda, setting up OMC. Which must have cost a fortune. So lies the answer to the question. OMC is highly leveraged. Ail is not stupid. He knows it was a product rushed to market, the finished product from a safty point, not as expected, but too costly to go back to the drawing board and liaise with Chinese manufacturers. Admitting mistakes in business is a gamble and costly. So best keep the corporate piety being the safest option ( myself becomes the priority). Ail has made his decision. There is no going back. The only answer will be when the mark 2 twig comes out, see the modifications, and possibly the arms will bend easier. This will be the only admission of a floored product. So, continuing the trilogy of the lesser Death rig. As for the angling trust and Ali. The stance will be lease said sooner mended.
All valid points and I don’t disagree. But trust is hard to gain and easy to lose. And once lost trust is incredibly hard to win back. Are his customers long term anglers or people just in it to catch fish quickly? If he wants a truly sustainable business I’d recommend focusing on the market that will always be there - not the anglers that are new to the sport and could leave as quickly as they started.
@adamroots3429 Adam only to the fact that he left a well knowen company Korda and set up OMC in a saturated tackle market. How many repeat products are there on the market ? Besides the twig and that's why he jumped on it.
@@GerardOconnell-q4d I suggest you go and read my response again with a clear head. I certainly didn’t claim to be a pilot and have never flown a plane before. I’m 47. I’ve been fishing for 40+ years. Maybe you’ve got confused.
@@thefishingdiaryjust read it again and no youre not a pilot. I withdraw that remark- However its-written so poorly it could easily be mistaken for that..... However it still doesnt change the original fact . Which was your review was biased and set up in a way which never gave the product a fair test. using it in the manner you did was at best deceitful..... As Ive stated , you fisherman spout off about fish care ,then remove fish in weigh slings to support the fish, then hold the up for photos with 70% of the fish unsupported. . Youre virtually all hypocrites.. Tell me Im wrong...
@@madbuda1951 That really isn’t an example of being a hypocrite. That simply means that I choose to use certain tech (eg a bait boat) but I also care about fish safety pushing for products to be made safer or better where possible.
I agree.. These fisherman talk about fish safety - They use weigh slings-to remove fish from the water in the name of safety.... Then hold the fish virtually unsupported for photos.. Complete hypocrisy
Totally true my mate caught his first 30lb and the and when he got it on the Matt there was a magic twig with hook hanging out its mouth lucky he caught it and took it out or it would have hooked up on something
well yes and no, companies do exist to make money but many of them make products that make our fishing better, some things you want to go and buy as they help, others need mass advertising to sell as they are not needed.
@@johnnybegood9560 what about the price of just going fishing the lakes are ridiculous it just out prices the every day bloke for me to take my boy it £50 for 24 hrs and that’s just the lake
@@robertwhite-overton-es4kj I agree, day tickets have always been an expensive way to fish, find a local club water is the way forward with the odd day ticket thrown in for variety
Good video .. Ive banned it from my local fisheries... If anyone knows or cares about angling ,you can quite clearly see that this product is completely unacceptable and aimed at VERY ,inexperienced people who go fishing ,cant call them anglers if one resorts to using this 'thing'...
Lighter hook lengths than mainline. Also, there wasn’t a fashion for heavy leads. Arlesey Bombs were typically tiny compared to today’s leads. Oh - and no bolt rights - running leads. What else did we do?
@@mattiparker14 I think so mate. But it was a fun game to play remembering a time when fish safety was so baked in you didn’t have to really think about it.
Spot on, mate👍, my feelings about the twig are similar to yours, if a carper wants a similar edge try the Nash trigger link🐟if my memory serves me well Nashy was the 1st to release the safety clip, a massive step towards fish safety 🎣
@@mattiparker14 thanks mate. Yeah, apparently it was Kevin Nash who invented the lead clip. You’ll actually find a clip of him talking about it in one of my earlier Twig related videos. Appreciate the support mate.
Saying Ali is this and that probably from people who have never been on a tv show or caught what he has tbh but even he knows deep down he fucked up with the twig so come on little man pull it and move on from it asap
Over gearification is ruining angling, like it’s ruined other areas of the outdoor industry. If you need to use a twig just buy a carp from a fish farm
DRAMA!!!! Not a fan of the twig but listening to people call other anglers who use it? I've decided I'm gonna use em for the rest of this year. Simply cos I can 🤷♂️ this dude on here telling me its not about catching fish it's about nature and the environment, no my friend that's the reason you go fishing? Taking the moral high ground while telling everyone the way you would like em to fish, I'd rather keep Ali and get rid of all the syndicates and clicky c#@ts 👍 i guarantee everyone who has called the twig use a rig that are banned on other venues
It’s not ‘just’ about catching fish. There’s more to fishing than catching. Otherwise we’d all be out there with sticks of dynamite and harpoon guns mate 😂
@thefishingdiary totally agree it's about the chase, trying to get that one bite with the end result in you catching a fish? Maybe it's because I blank 8/10 sessions that I want the fish more, or maybe It's because I can't get my hands on dynamite and harpoon guns 😂👍 it's definitely not about the thick mud, 60mph winds, torrential rain and freezing temperatures 🤣
@@openminddc8813 hahahahah fishing is different things to different people and we’re all entitled to an opinion so long as it’s delivered with kindness. Now where did I put that fish gun?
We all stick hooks in fish and drag them out of the water. To then get on your high horse about fish care is laughable. If you care that much leave them alone completely.
So you don’t think that anglers do anything for the environment? For water ecology? For the counties waterways? I think you need to consider the bigger picture mate.
I don’t and I won’t but as I say in the video education in angling is high on my agenda. I think it’s important new and less experienced anglers hear both sides of the argument so they can make an informed decision on whether they want to use it or not.
@@thefishingdiary you never gave both sides of the argument though. you gave your side of it. whilst using the product completely incorrectly that is a fact...
@@GerardOconnell-q4d Ali is more than capable of telling everyone his ‘facts and opinions’. I just wanted to add some balance to the discussion with my opinion. I don’t really understand why you’re taking it so personally Gerard. Just don’t watch or read any of my opinions if it upsets you.
ultimately a better angler than you has had a part in a new product.. you used that new product completely incorrectly - making sure you made it look as bad as possible, then you put out a video slating it.. thats-your video in a nutshell..
@@GerardOconnell-q4d or, you could say, I drew attention to a flawed design which then encouraged a re-design that is improved and safer. I also raised the issue of an outdated and ill worded bylaw with the EA and gave OMC a platform to lobby to get that changed (although I have yet to have verification of this). And I drew further attention to what many are already aware of - that although angling is indeed full of contradictions that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care for the livestock and the environment while enjoying our hobby.
@thefishingdiary you drew attention to nothing. you used the product completely incorrectly. Then got on your soap box to say how wonderful you are.. How many fish were injured by this product. no reports of any.. The only Danger is-you tube allowing you to spout off your biased views.. Not withstanding youve not answered my other question if you think your some safety warrior.. Put it back 30 years ffs you're talents are wasted. you should have been on the-stage with the drama youve invented...
@thefishingdiary Go and use it properly. Rather than spout irrelevant nonsense about what could happen, But ultimately never did... Hysteria on Steriods..
It's a post with genuine concerns. What are you on about? "ODDBALL" There's no hidden agenda against Ali and OMC. It's the fish safety aspect of the magic twig, no more no less.
The views expressed in this video are my personal opinion. It's okay that we don't all feel the same way about something. Some of you might love The Magic Twig and that's okay. But if you want to know more about my concerns with the product then please check out my other videos on my channel. Oh, and Ali and I spent 90 minutes on the phone a while back and we agreed to disagree - again, all love to the man and his own personal mission.
90 minute call and no contrition. Still, when your backs against the wall !
If Ali did pull this, there will be a copy on the market before you can say OMC.
I have to admit I haven't used the twig, baitboat, sonar or bushwacker, and never will.
I do agree with you, and hate the catch at all costs mentality today. The environment and fish must come first.
I'm not sure if the post is still on utube. There was a post with Ail and I think a plumber from up north who had , possibly not the first. Had the concept of the twig as we see it today. Outside waiting for the patent office in London to open , to register a patent on the twig and Ali excitingly building up anticipation of a game changing product that needed a urgent patent to stop any copies. I don't beleve any of the big names in angling will produce this product. Adverse publicity against, financial gain and the product is patent. Possibly a more dangerous copy from the far east on Amazon. Great to know you won't use it. One thing any bolt rig relies on, is sharp hooks, that's as ture today as when I first used a bolt rig in 1982. If this isn't the number one component, then learn to strike and be prepared to lose lots of fish, I learnt this the hard way.
There’s been some OMC stuff I wanted to try but refuse to send any money their way after the twig. But tbh recently I’ve seen some vids of theirs where they literally use 10+ components for a rig. It’s just all about money now
I believe you're right. More components to solve problems that never existed for the individual angler in the first place.
Never liked him.
He is not a real fisherman.
Money money money. Our clubs have baned it
@@brianreed1451 Lol
money money money
10 quid
whilst you make no mention of 3000 quid bait boats...Or 500 quid reels....or 300 landing nets..
ffs
Thank you for posting this, very well articulated, it echoes mine and many other anglers feelings.
Really disappointed in Ali, he’s surely better than this.
As you say I’m sure he’d gain a lot of respect if he put his hands up and said sorry we got this one wrong.
While fishing with the drop shot my weight became entangled with another weight. There also appeared to be a Zander on a broken line carrying the weight behind him. The entire mouth of the fish was damaged. I think the fish got snagged behind all sorts of stuff The fish was not strong enough to break the line between the hook and the weight This was an awful sight.
Horrible. Lucky you came along to sort out that mess!
Ali hamidi is a proper Cory for this one
A balanced video on a product, if used as instructed, is not fish safe and remember is sold world wide were fish safety isn't as paramount as it is in the Uk.
I also admire Ail.
Breaking away from Korda, setting up OMC. Which must have cost a fortune. So lies the answer to the question. OMC is highly leveraged. Ail is not stupid. He knows it was a product rushed to market, the finished product from a safty point, not as expected, but too costly to go back to the drawing board and liaise with Chinese manufacturers. Admitting mistakes in business is a gamble and costly. So best keep the corporate piety being the safest option ( myself becomes the priority). Ail has made his decision. There is no going back. The only answer will be when the mark 2 twig comes out, see the modifications, and possibly the arms will bend easier. This will be the only admission of a floored product.
So, continuing the trilogy of the lesser
Death rig. As for the angling trust and Ali. The stance will be lease said sooner mended.
All valid points and I don’t disagree. But trust is hard to gain and easy to lose. And once lost trust is incredibly hard to win back. Are his customers long term anglers or people just in it to catch fish quickly? If he wants a truly sustainable business I’d recommend focusing on the market that will always be there - not the anglers that are new to the sport and could leave as quickly as they started.
@@thefishingdiary couldn't agree more
I don't admire Ali ,one little bit why would anybody admire him ?
@adamroots3429 Adam only to the fact that he left a well knowen company Korda and set up OMC in a saturated tackle market. How many repeat products are there on the market ? Besides the twig and that's why he jumped on it.
A Man who claims he flies an aircraft preaching to others about the environment.
Priceless...
@@GerardOconnell-q4d what are you on about now Gerard? Who flies an aeroplane? I don’t and have never claimed to!!
@@thefishingdiary you claimed to be a pilot for 40 years plus..
its on the post we disagree about...
@@GerardOconnell-q4d I suggest you go and read my response again with a clear head. I certainly didn’t claim to be a pilot and have never flown a plane before. I’m 47. I’ve been fishing for 40+ years. Maybe you’ve got confused.
@@thefishingdiaryjust read it again and no youre not a pilot. I withdraw that remark- However its-written so poorly it could easily be mistaken for that.....
However it still doesnt change the original fact . Which was your review was biased and set up in a way which never gave the product a fair test.
using it in the manner you did was at best deceitful.....
As Ive stated , you fisherman spout off about fish care ,then remove fish in weigh slings to support the fish, then hold the up for photos with 70% of the fish unsupported. .
Youre virtually all hypocrites..
Tell me Im wrong...
@@GerardOconnell-q4d you’re wrong.
you are using all tech available for fishing, and then yaping how fishing isnt just a fishing bla bla bla... man you are just a hypocrite
@@madbuda1951 That really isn’t an example of being a hypocrite.
That simply means that I choose to use certain tech (eg a bait boat) but I also care about fish safety pushing for products to be made safer or better where possible.
I agree..
These fisherman talk about fish safety - They use weigh slings-to remove fish from the water in the name of safety....
Then hold the fish virtually unsupported for photos..
Complete hypocrisy
Totally true my mate caught his first 30lb and the and when he got it on the Matt there was a magic twig with hook hanging out its mouth lucky he caught it and took it out or it would have hooked up on something
Terrifying
@@thefishingdiary totally buddy it would have got hooked up for sue
Carp fishing is all about money nothing else
well yes and no, companies do exist to make money but many of them make products that make our fishing better, some things you want to go and buy as they help, others need mass advertising to sell as they are not needed.
@@johnnybegood9560 what about the price of just going fishing the lakes are ridiculous it just out prices the every day bloke for me to take my boy it £50 for 24 hrs and that’s just the lake
@@robertwhite-overton-es4kj I agree, day tickets have always been an expensive way to fish, find a local club water is the way forward with the odd day ticket thrown in for variety
so are all businesses you drip..
thats how they survive and employ people..
ffs
@@GerardOconnell-q4d what about just enjoying the sport and not having to earn the earth to do it
Good video ..
Ive banned it from my local fisheries...
If anyone knows or cares about angling ,you can quite clearly see that this product is completely unacceptable and aimed at VERY ,inexperienced people who go fishing ,cant call them anglers if one resorts to using this 'thing'...
Thanks mate
why is it unacceptable?
How many fish have died because of it...
I hate dropping leads and i hate changing hooks every cast like its a dirty Johnny some carp fishing is so wasteful and gimmicky
What did we do before safety lead clips were available….answers please….especially anyone under 30 😁🐟
Lighter hook lengths than mainline. Also, there wasn’t a fashion for heavy leads. Arlesey Bombs were typically tiny compared to today’s leads. Oh - and no bolt rights - running leads. What else did we do?
You know what I’m getting at
@@mattiparker14 I think so mate. But it was a fun game to play remembering a time when fish safety was so baked in you didn’t have to really think about it.
Spot on, mate👍, my feelings about the twig are similar to yours, if a carper wants a similar edge try the Nash trigger link🐟if my memory serves me well Nashy was the 1st to release the safety clip, a massive step towards fish safety 🎣
@@mattiparker14 thanks mate. Yeah, apparently it was Kevin Nash who invented the lead clip. You’ll actually find a clip of him talking about it in one of my earlier Twig related videos. Appreciate the support mate.
I've used it it's fine stop panicking if there's a real danger out there it's noddies using bolt rigs set ups for the first time 😅
Saying Ali is this and that probably from people who have never been on a tv show or caught what he has tbh but even he knows deep down he fucked up with the twig so come on little man pull it and move on from it asap
Over gearification is ruining angling, like it’s ruined other areas of the outdoor industry. If you need to use a twig just buy a carp from a fish farm
Well said Sir
Thanks mate
Never heard of this twig . What is it
Check out my other videos for more info mate.
But I appreciate this could also have been a joke comment 😂
DRAMA!!!! Not a fan of the twig but listening to people call other anglers who use it? I've decided I'm gonna use em for the rest of this year. Simply cos I can 🤷♂️ this dude on here telling me its not about catching fish it's about nature and the environment, no my friend that's the reason you go fishing? Taking the moral high ground while telling everyone the way you would like em to fish, I'd rather keep Ali and get rid of all the syndicates and clicky c#@ts 👍 i guarantee everyone who has called the twig use a rig that are banned on other venues
It’s not ‘just’ about catching fish. There’s more to fishing than catching. Otherwise we’d all be out there with sticks of dynamite and harpoon guns mate 😂
@thefishingdiary totally agree it's about the chase, trying to get that one bite with the end result in you catching a fish? Maybe it's because I blank 8/10 sessions that I want the fish more, or maybe It's because I can't get my hands on dynamite and harpoon guns 😂👍 it's definitely not about the thick mud, 60mph winds, torrential rain and freezing temperatures 🤣
@@openminddc8813 hahahahah fishing is different things to different people and we’re all entitled to an opinion so long as it’s delivered with kindness. Now where did I put that fish gun?
@@thefishingdiary 🤣👍
I think he knew it was going to be controversial but did it purely for the publicity and it worked. Would never buy an omc item because of it.
I really hope this isn’t the case. But it is a pretty basic marketing strategy that has worked for many a music group.
@thefishingdiary got people talking about him and omc, omc's Google search would have quadrupled or more after the release.
👏👏👏
And with that the magic wand was born 😂 smh 🫠
Yeah Ali, put your spiderman pants on! Lol.
🍺🍺👍👏👍🍺🍺
We all stick hooks in fish and drag them out of the water. To then get on your high horse about fish care is laughable. If you care that much leave them alone completely.
So you don’t think that anglers do anything for the environment? For water ecology? For the counties waterways?
I think you need to consider the bigger picture mate.
If you dont like it dont use it simple
I don’t and I won’t but as I say in the video education in angling is high on my agenda. I think it’s important new and less experienced anglers hear both sides of the argument so they can make an informed decision on whether they want to use it or not.
Got time to make 2 videos slating someone trying to be innovative, good product or not you are a sad sad man
@@thefishingdiary
you never gave both sides of the argument though.
you gave your side of it.
whilst using the product completely incorrectly
that is a fact...
@@GerardOconnell-q4d Ali is more than capable of telling everyone his ‘facts and opinions’. I just wanted to add some balance to the discussion with my opinion. I don’t really understand why you’re taking it so personally Gerard. Just don’t watch or read any of my opinions if it upsets you.
ultimately a better angler than you has had a part in a new product..
you used that new product completely incorrectly - making sure you made it look as bad as possible, then you put out a video slating it..
thats-your video in a nutshell..
@@GerardOconnell-q4d or, you could say, I drew attention to a flawed design which then encouraged a re-design that is improved and safer.
I also raised the issue of an outdated and ill worded bylaw with the EA and gave OMC a platform to lobby to get that changed (although I have yet to have verification of this).
And I drew further attention to what many are already aware of - that although angling is indeed full of contradictions that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care for the livestock and the environment while enjoying our hobby.
@thefishingdiary you drew attention to nothing.
you used the product completely incorrectly.
Then got on your soap box to say how wonderful you are..
How many fish were injured by this product.
no reports of any..
The only Danger is-you tube allowing you to spout off your biased views..
Not withstanding youve not answered my other question if you think your some safety warrior..
Put it back 30 years ffs
you're talents are wasted.
you should have been on the-stage with the drama youve invented...
@thefishingdiary Go and use it properly. Rather than spout irrelevant nonsense about what could happen, But ultimately never did...
Hysteria on Steriods..
Why have you felt the need to post this? Are you trying to push Ali from the throne?
I’m sure your opinion is really going to change this🤣
Literally all of your questions are answered in this 5 minute video mate!
Oddball!
It's a post with genuine concerns. What are you on about? "ODDBALL" There's no hidden agenda against Ali and OMC. It's the fish safety aspect of the magic twig, no more no less.
Your strange
You’re
So are you, filming UFOs ...lol
@@adamroots3429😂😂😂😂😂