Do YOU Think ADC SUCKS? Get GOOD at MACRO! - ADC Guide
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- How to MACRO as an ADC!
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In this guide we teach you how to properly play as an ADC in League of Legends in low elo. By constantly exposing you to low elo adc macro mistakes in this ADC guide, you'll begin to start improving at your decision making and will be able to farm way more in the mid to late game as an ADC, so you can carry your games and climb out of low elo.
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-Teammates dead after bad random fight-
Team: ADC, why you farming when we had a fight?
ADC: Push waves first
Team: report ADC
(loses 2x4) OmG aDc sToP fArMInG PlS rEpoRt tRoLl Adc
Happens every single time. I think the worst thing about bad players is that they constantly pvp for the sake of just pvping, and don't understand this is not WoW or smth
I feel like pushing the wave would just tilt "team" mates, which is unfortunately something to consider in lower elo.
AtAt45 Every game is like, why the fuck are you fighting in the enemy jungle with the whole map black and two objectives up, and then when they obviously lose the fight I can feel the pings coming. Besides, (that happened yesterday btw) my support get tilted that i took cleanse instead of heal against thresh&ahse, then get hooked twice and proceeds to perma roam mid :)
@@caiobahlis3560 😂😂😂😂😂😂 "I can feel the pings coming" 😂😂😂😂😂 hahaha you got me dude
6:07 "you avoid a shared lane like the plague"
look buddy we clearly dont avoid plagues
X'D to people of the future, this is funny because of the virus of 2020
Blaxe Frost with the US response basically being “oh it won’t get me votes to stop this? Well haha it doesn’t exist! Let’s party!” Chances are Covid will be around for a very long time even when the vaccination is available. It’s sad but people are getting dumber.
@@XistenceX1 Rather than "it doesn't exist" is more along the lines of medics saying "it won't kill you if we treat it"... it's another influenza virus, as such, after all of this is done, it will be a simple cold. I already was sick with the covid, now i'm pissed off by the quarentine, it won't kill me or my family now... and it wasn't that bad 'cause i'm healthy overall... old people and unhealthy people could die because of another virus anytime (influenza vaccine every year) we just need to keep washing our hands and not going out while sick, it's as simple as that, it's no death plague
As an ADC I am:
looking for objectives
looking for a play
✔️PUSHING WAVES FIRST
Well yeah it’s your job to farm and carry
✔️A walking bag of gold for the other totally overpowered roles until I have 3-4 items, where we break even
@@004Kamui bro that couldn't be more accurate
As an adc main i push wave and look for objectif. Its not rare that before 30 min i am lvl 18 with one item left before full build. While everyone is still lvl 15-16. Sometime i only have 1 or 2 kill.
004Kamui u dont need to have 3-4 items to be useful. I swear ADC mains are so stupid. I’ve literally heard people unironically say “ADC weak role” after they lose a 1 v 1 to a 5-0 Jax.
did you think that you were going to play this team game with your team? WRONG get back to lane it's still PvE o'clock
me on Yorick every time with 1 champion and 8 turret kills
yes
I had an adc in a silver game that understood macro and what they needed to hit when. It felt like having a tactical nuke.
I think this was a very good video. I was an adc main who was hardstuck Silver 2 for most of the season. I switched to mid and am now up to Silver 1 (while that might not seem like a lot, I was hardstuck for a LONG time in S2/S3) after only a week of switching the roles. I think my problem with ADC is that it doesn't offer the same level of influence as mid or jg or even support in the early stages of the game that can really get the game going in your favor. An early lead in bot doesn't mean anything, as the video suggests, whereas an early lead in any of the other roles mentioned is seemingly more game-changing. That said, this video makes me cautiously optimistic about playing adc again. Jhin is my favorite champ and I'd love to get a chance to play him more effectively in ranked, but I still don't think that adc is as strong as other roles (keep in mind that assassins are hardly picked up in current pro play, making adc seem stronger than it is).
The guide is great and I definitely learned a lot about ADC Macro, although I don't think this is why adc feels weak right now; I'd argue it has more to do with less than half of the ADC roster feeling all that worth playing and other roles' meta champs having inflated stats, but this guide will definitely help me win more regardless^^
Yeah I have the same issue. The tips are good for sure, but the way it’s presented is disingenuous. Like saying” look at this pro player” while saying adc “feels” bad because 99.9% of players don’t know how to play the role (while ignoring that the same is true for every other role) is just idiotic. There are definitely games where an ADC will pop off or situations where they shine, but overall even high tier players openly agree the role is comparatively weaker in far too many situations.
The only thing about pushing first is you're also farming against your team, if you don't take krugs you're probably not going to get them while 2 waves die top.
I feel like a toddler learning to walk
I know that everybody here loves this channel, but I didn't yet saw a comment saying anything about the speaker. And he undoubtedly does here a wonderful job.
I did this the past few days in all my games and good lord, this has been the single most helpful thing I've seen for League maybe ever.
It's hard climbing out of Silver/Gold because everyone just wants to fight, non-stop, for no reason while waves never get shoved out and jungle camps are all but ignored. Pretty good tip is to just mute everyone and inevitably mute pings from the people who just spam click you because you don't follow up their bad plays. I went from average 5-6 CS/min to 8-10. Guaranteed gold vs. questionable gold is always a win, low elo undervalue farm vs kills way too much.
This is a really good video. I wish a lot more of the guide videos have this decision making quiz style.
Thank you so much
no problem! =)
Tl;dr farm anywhere you have vision control
In this guide tho, when they said push first during the bottom lane clips, the map is very dark on that side.
Really, really good video! I loved it. It honestly sheds much light to my own gameplay, and I will be implementing this
The thing is: as an adc, you want to scale. Putting pressure into the map is essential as you gotta avoid the enemy's fed assassin, ok. BUT, low elo dont know to wait for fights, they just run it down and pings you for being farming. Another thing, ADC is the hardest role to play from behind, since you are focused and the jger is not going to help. Throwing leeds is normal for low elo, but even if you are ahead, most of the time youe team wants you to deal insane damage, keep it with insane faker farm and objectives presence. ADC isnt fun. ADC can carry, but is so much easier to just go for irelia mid spliting 1v3 200 cs at 18min.
I needed to see this. This is how I try to play and get flamed for it, so I try to be more of a "team player". I'm glad to know I'm right, and now I can be more obstinate in my good decisions.
at the 3:50 ashe was going bot but he rotated to the drag because it was already too late her minions already pushed enemy where she cant farm. malf, kayn and bliz would have chased her. no?! ( sorry for bad english)
A really good guide but in additional can you cover the problem how to defend the tower and how to trade tower and how important to spot out enemy missing or running towards adc (especially assassins)
5:50 yeah great dont show us where yas is pathing bot or mid we have to guess great
you can clearly see he is pathing bot, wtf?
I know you think he could be going mid, but that doesn't make sense in the current state of the map.
If your camera is centered on your champ when you are running to lane, you deserve your elo.
duuuude????
You can tell which way Yas is going by the way is face is pointing on the minimap ;)
@@daryslash why? Hea clearly sees trist running bot after he killed two ppl why cant he go push mid get herald with hecarim and get mid tower?
Nah, this video is actually a proof that the only thing that really matters is walking as a group to always have more players joining the fight faster than enemies.
If you followed the push wave first, you have an item advantage
at 6:02 I disagree a bit with the video, because the mid wave is too pushed and there's literally 0 vision of the sides of the jungle, so it would be too risky for an adc to go there and its better to head to bot, even if he loses farm tho
The problem with adc role is that they depend on support too much, without support adc's have very limited crowd control and almost 0 utility so with 2 levels below everybody else every assassin, fighter or even tank can go straight in your face and just kill you. If you want to stand any chance you need to either play vayne so you have dash on 0.5 sec cooldown or you need both flash and heal up.
Trying to follow this. It makes my games longer, I guess but I don't know if it has actually increased my chances of winning at all.
The second question is actually wrong
Ofc the team has good vision on enemy jungle
But if you look on it a second time you will see once ashe is gonna arrive at botlane the minionwave is already facing the enemy tower
Ofc she could push and try to take the next wave because the enemy jungle is warded but that could be in a lot of scenarios wrong too
Imagine having a feeded quinn in the enemy team or you just have not enough time to recall after trying hard getting only one wave (what I’m saying is the risks of dying and also getting only one canon and 2 range minions is too high)
If ashe dies because of such a risky play the game could be over and the the few minions where for no good
Proof me wrong
When i go shove a side lane my team blame me for not going full ahram and grouping
Now I understand why guys keep asking "what I'm doing", I'm just farming and creating pressure.
They always make you feel like your the reason they lose fights.
This is exactly what I wanted to know about my Gameplay... Really good video
I try to do all of this in my games but get flamed into the ground for not fighting and just farming, then they tilt and ff
But the thing is if you don't run to every fight your team rage at you. Straight up troll, or vet salty and don't peel for you
This is the first time that I got everything right I feel proud.
"Do you think Adc sucks?"
I mean the best Adc's are usually mages, or a weird support combo.
Oh and Caitlyn/Ezreal/Ashe that always are Ok in the meta.
kaisa lucian exist too you know even trist with some aggro support can do job
i've just tried it and i lost the game because i pushed the wave. nice tactics
Will there be a guide on how to win as adc with an inting team?
u didnt mention freeze once in this game
when taking this advice, know that you can start grouping a little more once you've gotten your core items and you feel like you can win a fight. don't do this perma
Funny how despite me being gold 4, answering just about all these questions right, and these players are higher rank than me O.o
you didnt show the part where diana malph and noc all ult me, what do i do then
9:03 TF, u ok? monkaW
3:23 About Ashe taking herald before pushing waves. I wonder if I should slow push that wave and hard push the next. That way, the wave is closer to our side of the map, and I can go take wtever camps that are up later. Any thoughts?
Since drake is about to spawn at 21 minutes she should have also taken the slightly longer route top warded around blue and slow pushed then crashed till she either sees enemys coming or the drake is about to spawn in a minute.
so at about 4.5+ min: i can see 3 blue team on the map, and have good bot vision - i can farm the bot jg and catch the wave as it pushes in mid (safest) . . . what i would like to do is get vision top side (scuttle) and maybe farm top side jg on the way to check scuttle. if i cant get scuttle i (their whole unseen portion of the team top side?) i can catch the wave mid - the path top is more dangerous that way . . .
As adc it's better to leave the vision control to jungler and support. Instead of farming Krugs, you can farm wolves and raptors then go mid.
i have a question if anyone is still there and if you respond to comments: if i am super fed (5 items at 21:00) and the next wave will be meet in around 10s, can i take krugs before pushing then? I did that before pushing and didnt lose any cs but just want to know if its good if i know i can clear the camp fast.
Me: pushing a wave
Enemy 28/2/4 zed: It's free Real estate
Felt that
gotta have some vision and map awareness dood
literally just happened to my last game, my whole team was pressuring mid and this zed just keeps headhunting my sidelane farming ass
it didn't help that i had a yuumi supp who stuck around wiith my teammates therefore not being able to ward up any side of the jungle
@@princerayn3054 probs you should have warded more by yourself, even if that means investing some gold onto that
@@giaaaacomo can adc's really afford to get spectral sickle? I mean, doesn't it take like 15 mins of sticking with your teammates to activate the ward passive? wouldn't that mean that's 15 mins where you can't get solo exp and gold?
Skill Capped: What lane should the Ashe go?
Me: Bottom.
Skill Capped: The correct answer is mid.
*slams keyboard*
this is me with every Skill Capped video.
Gregor playing lol.
My life is complete now.
You and me: _anything_
Skill Capped: The answer is clearly ADC mid.
9:03 she simply was scared by the levitating dead tf
That is kinda scary tbh
XDDDD
i was actually shivering it was very scary
Even in death, tf does Magic tricks
You made my day 😆
Hmmmm I picked "Running down mid" every time
Ah, so you play ARAM, i see
we all do, because otherwise out teammates would flame us because we arent grouping or defending mid u know?
@@mercibeaucoup4591 mute buttons are great
@@mercibeaucoup4591 listen to low Elo players Stay in low Elo. Or chad it up and farm like crazy. And still lose because your team tilts so hard because you’re doing the right thing that they all start inting and going afk.
Classic silver:
As ADC you productively farm as there is no need to fight. No objectives are coming. There is plenty of gold to get.
Your team: I guess it's time to fight on mid. What else can we do?
or that one player who runs down first, even tho there's still one person in base
Play champs that can influence the fight from afar? Ashe ult, draven ult, ez ult so while you farm you're giving a tiny bit of agency in the team fight
@@VVopal lmao having a ezreals in your team means you lose
@@JakandDexsters Not really, if you're a good ezreal he has one of the highest ADC dps outputs
@@VVopal out of 10 games my ezreal lost me 8 games in a row.
Most of my games as an ADC
Scenario #1: I’m doing good up to midgame and I’m 4/0/2 when a 0/3/2 ap champ randomly one shots me.
Scenario #2: It’s late game and the enemy team has inted except for their tank illaoi or scaled up Chogath they just follow around everywhere and I do no damage to them and we lose the game.
7 months later, this is still the norm, except its now hyper fed akalis and zeds instead of shut down normal mids. 😂
Ahh yes. I love getting one shot by an offscreen lux ult
*Yes yes, Doublelift clip wasn't from last week, this was released on our site a little while ago =)
PLEASE SONG NAME IN THE BEGINNING PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
I also want to farm most of the time, but should I let my team die if they engage bad or should I try to help them, that is my biggest question every game
Can you guys make your next guide that revolves around diamond players?
@@sakutaro3musik486 if u know your team will loose don't come
@@GORK3411 most people get mad xd
Me: "Wow this is really helpful, I know something was missing I'm ready to play some league"
15 mins later, "Gets 1v1ed by Nautilus support with only tank items".
"Oh..."
> Plays champion weak to cc
> Complains that you're losing a duel against a champion loaded with cc
xD
@@shacolin6546
> Doesn't realize that it's just a joke
> Something something idk
Shacolin Yeah because a nautilus has enough base damage to burst an adc
@@shacolin6546 A Yone or a Katarina would have shredded that same Nautilus in less than half a second.
@@Halfort57 Sure, a spellbased AoE damage assassin whose ultimate can be stopped by cc and has to be close to do damage will be able to blow up a full tank Nautulus in less than half a second... Are we talking about a nautilus at 10% hp or a 20/0 katarina here?
Notification be like: do you think adc sucks? Get GOOD
11:03 The Enemy Ashe pushes the wave, first. Definitely, she understands the Macro.
Thats because she has team which can fight without her.if she was on the loosing side she would get blamed by her team for pushing the wave and not participating in the team fight
@@marianivanov5730 i would argue that some players focus too much on farm, f.e. when realy improtant stuff is happening 4th dragon, baron etc
I would like to add some important things to the video that have been oversimplefied
The main problem with this video is that it doesnt teach you the exceptions to the rule (=maximising your income through proper side lane management)
The decision making whether it's worth helping or farming is the key factor .
You never always push and you never always group. Every case is unique .
Generally speaking one of the many things you need to consider are your powerspikes .
If you are a Lucian , you will do more grouping during your powerspikes and more farming when you havent reached them ( Side laning forces enemy to match your split push ).
You need to understand who is more worth in a team fight.
If you are 0/5 Lucian and you force the 10 /0 jinx ( with IE runaan Shiv ) on the side lane, it is macrowise the correct choice since she can't spread her lead.
Otherwise if you are fed , you wanna group alot and help your teammates get fed ( strong teammates means less pressure for the adc during game deciding teamfights, No one will pay attention to your 10/0 Ashe if there is a 5/0 Sylas murdering everyone). Being 10 cs/min and perfect kda at the end of the game means nothing if the rest of your team pays for it and cant help in Team fights when 3 People flash for you
ofc You shouldnt neglect maximising your income if you are grouping while being fed . But do it near your teams and about to be contested objectives.
For example by taking the sidelane near the upcoming objective or your Jungler's camp
If you go side lane , always be cautious about upcoming objectives , Vision contest ( For baron ) as well as assasins with strong and fast target access.
Another point : Side laning is even more important if enemy team has strong team fighting Champs like Veigar yuumi etc. Sometimes it is even worth to push a sidewaves 20 sec before drake and getting multiple towers for a drake.
wouldn't you say pro league of legends and solo q are completely different games?
Yes
a pro can play the same way in solo q in any elo and win hard. even if he doesnt play and just tells someone what to do that persons mechanics not beeing any better but the knowledge and decisions beeing better, that person will win significantly more often than before.
so i wouldnt say its completly different
Comparison with doublelift was so fkin bad. Its pro play, teams playing around the adc. Where did you see someone peeling the adc in lower elo? You got only theoretical knowledge, but not practical. What is the reason to get waves, when your team keeps permanently fighting without you? Do you really think they will let the adc take the farm on side lane?
exactly they always fighting in low elo and if the adc goes to farm the team loses the fight
On one hand yes. Pro play is a completely different game. Especially the adc role, I see that every clash game, which isn't even close to pro play, but still way more competitive.
But on the other hand, high elo players constantly get 10 cs +. If I get 7 cs a game, I am satisfied. But these players get 3 cs more by average than me. You don't just get that by "farming better". They catch waves more efficient, they are always looking to generate gold. This is what this video is about:
you are adc. You don't don't make plays. Your team makes plays. You can only follow (only very few adc can actually engage). You try to force the enemy into making mistakes by managing waves. Always look to generate gold,so you can fulfill your role.
@@ocoro174 I mean if you're dogshit at adc, then you're just dogshit at adc. Don't take it out on a yt channel
I get what you mean but if you have 10 cs per minute no way you’re gonna lose.
7:04
Doesnt matter if you have pushed or not
Low elo if enemy sees even 1 solo pushing a lil bit they gang up to kill him in sidelanes
Yeah but the point is even if they do that they are losing farm
True. If your team is smart tho they'll look to punish by taking towers or objectives while you get 5 man dove
you can recall the instant you cant see like 3 enemy team members or a big threat like a fed zed. it surely takes more time than 8 seconds to rotate to a sidelane. But its true that they will do that and it can be frustrating sometimes if your team doesnt do anything while the enemy team is chasing you
@@mint_659 sad thing is thath they dont
tell team to push opposite tower or recall ez
You mentioned vision once, when xayah over extended. Now watch Everytime the adc steps up to the wave, the enemy disappears. So push wave and die is all i saw in the big picture
Exactly, I overextend to push the next wave and three people randomly appear to kill me
Nah i nerver push wave to tower when i losing since i know im a squishy target and should nerver go alone near enermy or wave near tower, plus now mostly it just force out play to come back to the game so team fight then is much more important since enermy team gonna outfarm me since their have the lead, and even in high elo they not goona care bout wave clear if a big fight happen
@@moonlit8846 Never push past the midpoint between any two towers (unless both towers are yours and are still standing) if you don't have vision.
Love the channel but this guide is senseless;
TL&DR - Telling everyone to always push is not a Macro Improvement and will probably have toxic results.
There were some absurd examples (not to mention rather offensive towards the players in the video) in which pushing the wave could have ended in worse results (being prone/susceptible to being ganked or losing inhibitors) and it never took into consideration the team aspect of Macro (as if Macro didn't involve your team), like pinging your Team, warning you are playing for the Late Game or coordinating objectives with pushes. This seems more like it would incentivize toxic and selfish behaviour than improve anyone's Macro. You can always brainlessly push waves as ADC if your team is on the same page as you, easily applicable to ProPlay and High Elo (hence the Doublelift's example). I hope no low ELO player fall for this overly generalized fallacy and keeps trying to improve their judgement on WHEN to farm and when to group.
Q: What is this Xayah doing wrong?
A: His ID is "Thiccc Thighs"
or maybe her or maybe none
OKAY HER ID IS THICCC THIGHS AND THIS IS HURTFUL
3:52 You say to go and farm bot lane and then krugs, but the whole enemy team shows pathing to dragon and you mentioned that she has 2 teammates dead. Isn't it crazy overextending to path bot here? Even if she B lined it, she wouldn't be there fast enough
Yes it is crazy. They would have all gone bot and killed her, she wouldn't even have time to recall.
100%. Looks like she was pathing bot, but by the time she passed her T2, her team was already in retreat with the wave pushed out past tri-bush. If she goes for that she's just a tasty snack for Kayne.
To be fair, she stood in fountain for at least 10 seconds, so if she had acted immediately she probably could have at least caught a wave or two. Krugs would've been suicide though.
@@wryguy Not with vision
@@necrofanatica but she didn't have vision
@@wryguy not the point, just meant to say that with vision it’s not really a bad play
*I'm low elo but I feel like I'm playing against G2, suddenly there are 4 ppl bot trying to kill me, at level 2, 4 people at bot in level 2*
Essa é a g2
You are actually doing the team a favor, it took 4 enemy Champs to rush you down and leave their lane defenseless. Not 9nly are they gonna be weaker returning, your team can keep,them busy while you catch back up. Difficult, yes, but when the teamfights happen, the steamroll begins.
As an adc, I'm doing all that, the problem being, my enemies too, so even though I'm extremely rarely losing lane, and always keep income flowing, that's still just being solo in pair with my enemies and still having to 1v5 all the time, wich is not realy doable.
there still is too many ppl in low elo that sure doesn't want to lose the game, but doesn't want to win either, that's what elo hell is about.
Hello fellow adc main here, you CAN carry with ADCs but it depends on how early some adcs get their powerspikes. Example: Vayne can start to do massive damage after just one mythic item while Lucian is gonna need Essence Reaver AND a mythic item. Samira, Tristana, Kog'maw, all of these and alike can cause mental disturbance for the enemy team just by getting a few kills. If you already play them and still can't win, that's entirely on you. I had a feeding Master Yi mid that ran it down my botlane because I typed "Yi stop dying". I won the game 18/0.
I have lost so many games turning a wave around as ADC while my 4 teammates start a 4 v 5 before I get back, they all die and it's game over. I even type, "turning wave around don't fight." Then they all die engaging away from tower.
eeeexactly, same shit. Hate this videos because they don't took into consideration that other players on your team don't watch them. They fight champions 4 lvls ahead of them, they have 0 10 at 10 min, they start fights 2v5 etc. You just can't "just farm" because you just lose. I have a 50% win rate on almost every adc just because every other game i get at least 1 winning lane. If I have just one lane that doesn't feed, engages for no reasons and realizes what you are doing i win... every other it's every lane losing :D ello hell :D
Me:*push bot because enemy is grouping mid*
My team:*feeds* *blame me*
daily struggle of an adc, feel u bro
I love how this video wasn’t just “Mid elo ADC tips” but you’re forcing us to think about WHY the mistakes are wrong. Feels more like being taught something, rather than just git gud.
Excuse me how could she get bot wave and krugs at 4:00, there is no way she had time for that
True lol she'd get collapsed on. This guide is one of the worst and I'm a skillcapped fan.
Some of the problem with the examples here are really painfully clear why they didn’t push waves first. All but one person MIA and no wards to protect pushing past that first point.
She would've been able to actually. You just underestimate Ashe's waveclear. I'm a mid player but the fact I do this habit better than any adc main (esp when having to play the role) is hilarious and evident that the players just suck at it.
Came here for this. Ashe just reaches drag pit but could have pushed bot wave AND gotten krugs?? Is Ashe invisible and fast as hecarim? Im a bit wary of these guides now...
"It's really easy, look at doublelift being the highest level in the game.... when the enemy team allowed Cait through the bans and then didn't draft any assassins that could potentially challenge a cait..."
Exactly. Cait is OP. Most other adc's are weak af.
Cait has the ultimate kit tbh, she has everything, cc, more cc and a way to escape if needed to, a mega ranged ult that is a point and click, and don't get me started on the dmg on that q
@@medg0798 She has 650 Range. Aphelios has the same range (650) with Calibrum. Kog'maw has 710 at level 9 if he uses W. Trist outranges her at level 14(I don't know, i don't play tristana) Ashe has 600 range, wich is good. Senna has 600, but she's a support (I disagree with Senna ADC, don't even start "Senna can also be played as an ADC"), but she can range her at 40 stacks(around 10-15 minutes), but as her early stack gathering is so crucial, I don't pick Senna against cait.
But wait, here's more: If she uses E(Or you walk into her trap) her range on you is 1300.
Her strongest counter-matchup is an Agressive Senna+Lucian combo.
Once they hit level 2, Senna can W cait, and Lucain can instantly close the gap with his E, proc PtA, Q, and Senna can dish more damage with AutoQ. Cait has a hard time disengageing from them, as Lucian's Dash has good range, she can't really just E away.
Also, Senna can outheal the poke of Cait.
Alirght I have to agree and say this is an amazing guid but the reason why I think ADC sucks is that you get 4 man dived by 10 minutes. Also supposedly why so many people dislike the current state of ADC is probably because all you do is farm for 30 minutes straight to then still have to have a support near you to carry teamfights. Comparing this to a darius who could 1v5 teamfights makes it understadable why.
Not to say this video was bad in any way, in fact this concept can be applied to mid and top lane as well. I just wanna throw my 2 cents in here
Although I agree with everything you say, it does not show until after diamond 2
@@lifeasdev7480 wdym exactly? and kewl that we agree on something c:
@@deejayf69 wdym?
@@lifeasdev7480 what do you mean
@@Ryucopasetic What?
Yeah, Doublelifts team mates don't have 0 15 2 at 20min mark...
What about when your whole team is powerfarming and every lane is constantly pushed. Where do you go when no safe farm is available and the enemy team is missing?
jungle camps i guess
There will be scenarios where you can't do anything for a bit. Just wait for the next opportunity and drop a ward meanwhile. Can't do A? Do B. Can't do B? Do C. ect. Don't forget the 20/40/40 rule. Edit: Or think of it like this: Focusing on what you can't do is useless. Find what you "can" do. Even if that's as small as warding somewhere safe. It's something.
Well, that is the classic problem in plat diamond where junglers also pushes lanes. At that instance there is not much you can do except taking jungle if that is not going to cost much. But in general you should be the one directing the game and leave them the correct place to take. This channel had a video about that sort of situations as well,but I can't seem to remember the title
Ward objectives, group up with your team for a fight where you can catch the enemy off guard with a numbers advantage or easily take a dragon or something
I also want to farm most of the time, but should I let my team die if they engage bad or should I try to help them, that is my biggest question every game
They shouldn’t be engaging at all if you’re in a side lane. If they get engaged on it’s probably too late to rotate/they should have been playing safer anyways
Imagine comparing adc in solo queue vs adc in pro play. Adc is a team reliant role so it's obviously going to be strong in pro play. However, it's absolutely horrible in solo queue and is arguably tied for the worst designed role along with top
So how does macro help me with getting dumpstered by full tank malphite?
"Here's why ADC doesn't suck!" *Proceeds to show an adc in top lane instead of bottom* LMFAO no shit
"just learn macro!" ulted by nocturne and rengar everytime you appear on the map as your support with no cc can only watch you die.
Macro changes game to game and you must take those factors into account. Ward enemy jungle more often as adc. It'll help you a lot. When your jg comes down bot river and you have your wave pushed you can help him farm the enemy jg's camps.
@@rampageblizzard in my games, they literally just do a suicide run to kill me just so that I wont be able to do anything
thats where you start to try to learn your matchups: nocturns and rengars are made to ruin squishy side laners, that just means theyre doing their job right. Play around when their ults are down, and push the waves closest to you with only pushing a few waves up. use the positioning of your jg and watch the enemy jg on the map at all times
I've watched this channel for 2 years. Thanks for all your guidance. My highest rank is Plat3 and I'm getting better this season.
Good job
but the enemy Fizz is 12/2 and Jax is 7/0 at 10mn
11 mins in and I finally got the right answer xD
HAHAHAHAHA I got most of them wrong (followed what the players in the replay did) instead of the "right" play
Sadly when you try farming and pushing waves while your team is ARAMing, you get flamed at the end for “ADC lowest damage, cool”. Yeah because I don’t engage every time I see an opponent
Get over it, you can’t even come near your team to start a proper team fight. Maybe you will win lane but at the end you don’t actually have armor, survivability to deal with gap closing champions. You are the weakest link in the game so every one will jump you. Even with your team up close you die in a blink of the eye. Word of advice if you are an ADC please don’t suffer and learn new lane or play something else in bot lane. Don’t agree what every one else saying because they have to make money.
I get what you're saying, but your attitude of "anyone below Challenger is trash" is quite condescending and unnecessary. We are spending our time watching you, some of us even paying for your services. We are your clients and watchers, we respect you, and ask please you do the same please.
Youre ignoring the fact that youre going to have an exp disadvantage and to a large extent your lane phase is determined by your support. Which is why ADC sucks right now.
I legit has a game where I went 22-7 where I was the same level as a talon who went 5-12, not to mention that the talon gets to one shot me after diving into the team invisible and immune to pink wards
Next video should be like How to have impact as Adc before 30 min if its even possible xd
As Ashe, I recently had a game where enemy pushed blue, and I killed three of them. We lost the game because the rest of the team was terrible, but I did kill three early.
What if team mates are calling me out for farming and not helping out with team fights and confrontations at objectives? I can say that more than likely if I am farming in lane and my team mates lose a fight or an objective like drake then I am going to get blamed for not helping. So when is it ok to ignore lanes and help out in team fights or with confrontations over objectives? And I feel like this is a reasonable question if you dont think so either you dont understand my question or you dont understand that I honestly dont know the answer to this question and need help or guidance.
Hippocampus is more for memory, the amygdala is more for emotional ties to memory. Ill teach you neuroscience if you teach me how to smurf on shitters SkillCapped 😍🥰
Now ik why I can't do 10 cs/m instead just 9 cs/m it because i don't fully push and just do the jg camps whicch is nearby
noooo adc's are so weak why cant i survive an assassin gank or kill a full armor malphite?! Why i cant be the best class at teamfighting but also the best at laning phase but also winning 1v1 against tanks and assassins that's so unfairrrr
3:58 There is no way that ashe could have made it to that wave as well as "already killed Krugs" at the time you mention, and by showing bot against a Kayn when your entire team is mid or dead, ashe would just be running it down. What she should be doing is farming jungle camps pathing from wolves up to top lane to catch the impending wave because contesting dragon in this situation is nearly impossible...
Perhaps if Ashe didn't sit in base for like 10 seconds straight not moving she might have made it, but this is another issue that you should have mentioned as well..
The message I get from skill capped over and over again is always be solo farming in the mid game. I have a hard time putting this advice to use for a couple of reasons. First, my teammates and the enemy team are fighting all the time, so instead of the enemy lanes looking to farm like I am they are always roaming together looking for picks. Every time a push a wave solo I risk getting three man dived out of nowhere. The second is that the enemy is fighting all the time, so the bit of CS and XP I get from farming waves doesn't matter so much if the enemy carries are getting more ahead by just killing my teammates. How do i carry the game if I don't put myself really far ahead in gold? The third problem I have is that the enemy is fighting all the time, and if I am farming a wave on the other side of the map I can participate in the fight or influence how the game will snowball. The frustration I feel as ADC is that I don't have options. When do I completely take the game into my hands and 1v9 like you would if you are a fed solo laner? Please make a video on when I shouldn't be farming, so I have the confidence to collect CS when I know it's not time to fight. Thank you.
k, so ima try to help with the info that I have ascertained over the years(and these last two seasons more importantly). You have to learn how to win lane in order to set yourself up for a better transition. I will agree that adcs are the weaker role until you hit 3 items(for most), so winning lane is paramount. I suggest playing hyper aggressive until you learn the limits of the champions(hopefully no more than 3) that you main. Then you will know what you can and can not do on those champions. Practice this until you are able to move onto other concepts. However, you want to always try to know where the jungler is. Push hard, and ping your support to help you get a deep ward when you see him in another lane(wards last 3 mins). This video guide is all about midgame(usually when you are ahead and want to stay that way and close out games). Apply all those concepts here. When you are behind, spam ping your team to not fight and try to hit your next item power spike. Since it's low elo, ofc your team will want to try and fight every chance that they get, so farming quickly and effectively is important here. When you are ahead, it is your job to do damage AND NOT DIE. The not dying part is paramount as you are literally a walking bag of gold looking to help someone get back into the game. When you are behind, you will literally have to "Out-Mechanics" the other team or hope that you can stall til 3 to 4 items. There is no way around that. If you can not do that while farming effectively, you wont climb and you will always feel that your team is holding you back.
TL;DR if you are ahead by midgame, follow this video guide. If you are behind, spam ping your teamates, try to get to your nearest power spike, and "out-mechanics" the enemy team. Mute your team if you have too. I been there, and I still am practicing it.
Meanwhile, me, who sometimes gets filled adc, winning 50/50 lane and afterwards always going on a solo lane to shove and getting killed by the zed everytime xD
I swear ADCs have the worst fundamentals of any role. I main mid and I can beat an ADC main on first time Aphelios because I can play the game at a basic level when they just go for the 1v9 gOsU oUtPlAy
but the big problem is i always get flamed for pushing waves first im d3-d2 btw
or also get spampinged when im vayne lvl 5 under tower with a huge wave and dont rotate lol
Well you see pro team understand adc needs gold and xp
Redundance is the most effective form of teaching. I like the lower elo coverage so I can get more examples of the same stuff to train the brain better. It's actually really helpful. "...And you better know what she did wrong." LMAO, one of the few times I answered correctly in these videos xD
How useless is it that we can't see even the health bars of anyone when making a decision? In real games we have more information and the decisions depend on factors like the health bars of the other 9 players.
blame leagues replay client
if he says tf has 20hp and is about to die it puts extra focus on a given situation biased opinion go brrr
2:21 can we talk about how the mega fed ashe is doing 29 dmg per auto to herald? XD
We sure can, its a spectator mode bug that only shows the first tick of her Q.
Push Lanes First, right? Are there any special considerations with painfully slow pushing ADCs like Vayne? (specifically, painfully slow when a little behind)
no, if you cant carry fights you gotta get them $$
Me: A once High elo ADC player
Drops down and ruin's MMR
Now -
Solo que: Top / Jungle 0/10 in 5 mins almost every game they FF15.
Skill Capped: Do YoU ThInK AdC SuCkS??? gEt gOoD aT mAcRo.
How coaches view lol:
Step 1: CS
Step 2: Wave management
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!