Gaffer & Gear 70 Aputure Lantern
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- Gaffer & Gear 70 - Aputure Lantern
Quick look at the Aputure Lantern designed for Bowen's mount fixtures
Index:
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Bowen's mount form factor (weight / power)
02:05 - Lightweight lantern solution
02:32 - Build quality / cost
03:08 - Set up (fast & easy)
04:40 - Skirt
05:50 - Speed ring lock (Rotation)
06:55 - Putting lantern onto light - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Dude you are under-appreciated on YT, hope the fires are gotten under control soon!
These videos are so helpful to me. Thank you,
Same!
Absolutely invaluable true gaffer's perspective on all these new bits and bobs coming out. Thank you for these videos and I hope you guys are recovering well after the fires.
Got me one of these together with a lightdome mini ii. Thanks for always showing how to set these things up. First time I tried I thought I would break it, so your video is reassuring to use some controlled force. 😀
You had me at “for expendables money” ! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to make these videos. Stay safe.
Such great and helpful content as always! Just wanna say thank you for all you do!
Love your vids, you're a natural on cam and have so much excellent knowledge to share. Thank you 🙏👏
Fantastic video, just came from your Exalux Control 1 vid - loving this channel!
Thanks for the review, Andrew, and stay safe out there.
I ordered a this lantern BEFORE I found this video - now I’m sure I made a good decision! Thanks
We got one of these the other month and have it set up on our 120D in the studio.
Your channel is outstanding. Keep it up man!
Very informative. Thank you very much for your guidance and help. God bless you
Thanks for the vid. Got the same setup and i love it! Also thoughts and prayers to you down under.
Thanks, we got some good rain 2 days ago, so spirits are lifted.
+Gaffer & Gear, thank you for this video. You did a good job.
Solid review. Thank you!
Brilliant show mate.
Thank you for the great video; really well done
Love this set up. I have the same one.
THanks for the interesting info. It would be nice to see some lighting setups made with it :-)
Got my Lanter about a month ago. Damn, I love the thing!! You are absolutely right, terrific value for almost no money!
And I think I've worked out how to gel it - put the grid cloth down to see bare rods, then turn a piece of gel arond them forming a cone, wrap around the mount at the "bottom" and clip it together at the "nose"(I prefere using tiny sping clamps). Works fine, all the light is filtered and nothing gets burned) Great review, as always, Andrew!
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What was the brand of the other light? Also what stand was that? Thanks for all the tips your amazing?
Just placed my order for one! Thanks for the review. Would love an update if/when you come up with a way to throw some gels in there.
Just bought one up here in Canada! Love it. Hope you and your family is safe over there. Video Request - Does your cargo van have a cool build or is it something simple so you can roll carts in and out when you go on location. I'd love to see more about how you pack your van for a shoot and prep over all.
Yeah, show us your van. Happy to walk around my van with a camera if you like.
Thanks for another great video. Stay safe down there!
Avenger D650
Very informative ! Thank you !
Very interesting! Wouldn’t have thought that it has grid cloth.
Stay safe -- just went through a sh!tty fire season up here in Alaska.
The monkey magic reference has earned you a sub!
Picked one up last week. Haven't yet got much use out of it but seemed a no brainer for the cost.
Thank you for posting. Stay safe
As always, there is only one review I really need to watch on this...
Love ur vids
Nice one!
Great content as always, thanks for sharing!
Only that the lantern is most likely made in China as well 😂since Aputure is a Chinese company! Good to see these more affordable Chinese products made with better quality these years
Got Aputure Lantern last moth! And thanks to your reviews, I decided to buy a Forza 300. And guess what?! Received a free Forza 60 for the purchase!
Nice!
Where'd you get that deal? I'm in!
Just bought it, keeping it on the van for those night shoots/last minute situations.
I'll see if I can engineer a gelholder on it in my workshop. Will keep you posted.
Were you able to eventually find a way around gelling it
@@EasyyokeFilms had to get a cto in. In the end just clipped it in the spokes at the top of the ball when extended which works for now
I'm just about to buy the lantern - so I thought I'd check here first. Solid review!
Hi Andrew, thanks for another great video. Hope your sinuses are doing better. I wanted to ask, what do you reckon the stop loss is on the lantern 60 and/or 90?
Nice video. Thanks and I remember 'Tripitaka' from Monkey. The show brings back memories... 😂😂
Seems like a “no brainier” purchase! I also remember the monkeys, you are not alone! 😂🙏🏾
You have more knowledge than all the other youtube filmmakers put together. So thanks for putting these videos together. Quick question, which might be a stupid one.. How well does this work as a regular softbox, like for an interview? Is there anything dis-advantageous to just using it like a regular softbox, rather than like a china ball from overhead? Could save some space in my kit and a few bucks by buying just this instead of this and their 'light dome'. Thanks!
Both different uses. For a basic interview I would go the light dome, because it has a bigger surface area facing the subject it would be softer.
@@gaffergear Noted.. You're the best. thanks!
I'm so glad I found our channel. This information is fantastic. Thank you for making these! I'm an independent filmmaker looking to extend my personal gear for smaller side projects. Two quick question if you're up for it.
1. I think I'm sold on the Aputure Dome Light II over the Nicefoto Softbox. They're very similar, but the Aputure has the gel holder component. However, the Nicefoto is $100 cheaper. Does choosing the Aputure seem like the wise choice?
2. As for a lantern option, I've noticed Aputure has 26" and 47" versions. The larger being about $50 higher. Would you think it's wiser to go ahead and buy the larger version and just use the skirts to limit what I don't need, if applicable? It's hard to know how easy or cumbersome the 47" will be until I have it on set. I've also have people suggest the Godox lantern, which is around 33", but it doesn't really save much at all on the price. Curious if the 47" is the wisest move there.
Apologies for the info dump. Thanks so much for any advice!
For me, larger is better, because it will give you a softer light, but it comes down to what will fir on set. As you can see that one hangs down a fair bit and that's the small one.
I haven't seen the Nicefoto soft boxes so I can't give an honest answer.
@@gaffergear thanks!
This is great - thanks for sharing! Very helpful. Quick question - how exactly do you have this boomed up in the room? Looks like a great and flexible setup. Looking to do something similar for a dinner scene next week.
Thanks!
Its on an avenger D650 boom arm
Hi Andrew
Did you ever find a solution to adding a Gel to these lights when using the Lantern? Be good to know.
Thanks
i thinking in buyin a aperture lanter but which could be more fundamental to buy the lanter or a mini dome type softbox?
Sold!
Hi Andrew, fantastic video as always. I'm thinking to get the lantern 90 instead of the "regular" lantern, but I'm a bit worried that it might become too heavy for a boom arm setup like you have it in the video. Have you by any chance used a 600d/x with a lantern 90 on a boom? I'm thinking to use it as a soft far side key for a two-people-talk-to-each-other-in-arm-chairs situation, instead of a classic back cross key setup.
Almost no difference in weight for a boom arm.
Could you please let me know the stand and arm brand/model?
Rats... I was hoping you had a solution for gelling this! I taped a square just inside the "inner mouth" of the mount... I didn't realize how far in the LED COB projected. The hole it melted through wasn't that big, but I did melt a clean hole very quickly.
Hi Andrew, been a while since we spoke! Have you had any luck in recent months as far as installing gels in the lantern?
Thanks Andrew!
And to those who don't know of Monkey Magic, ya missed out!! ;-p
I'm looking into getting one of these to simulate a light above a table for a poker scene, probably with an Aputure 300d or Forza. What kind of stand and boom arm would you recommend to safely rig this up over a table? Each shot would be focused on one person at a time so it doesnt need to be completely overhead and hidden for a wide shot
The avenger boom arm in this video will give you plenty of options. It could be used on a push up combo stand.
Hey love the video. Can I ask what the size of your C Stand is and where you got it from?
Its on an avenger D650 boom arm
Love this channel Andrew. Thanks for all your work on it. Any thoughts or tests you’ve done with the 600D and the smaller Aputure lantern? Just wondering if it’s a definite no no and the 90 is the only option?
I have the smaller lanterns for smaller spaces. They work fine and no heat issues on the 600D
how do these LED units go being gelled down to 3200k? aside from it being difficult to gel the lantern
Love the video! Really want to use my lanterns more but I cannot figure out a easy way to put gels in them yet. In the video you mentioned you struggled with this as well. Did you find a solution for that since making this video?
I use Bi-colour or RGB lights for that now
@@gaffergear Makes sense. I'm currently trying to decide whether to get a Nanlite Forza 200 vs 300B because of that. Being a one man band on set mostly, I figured the Forza 200 would be better since it can be operated with a single V mount, however the 300B is way more versatile. Any thoughts? :D Guess no piece of gear is perfect ;)
Hello, thanks for tyhe video. Just wondering if you ever did come up with a solution to add gels inside the lanterns?
Nope, I just went full colour lights, now that full colour lights are brighter
Where'd you get your light stand?
I also love that setup. Would you have any lightstand and boom arm advice to hold this safely without having to get a c stand or heavy structure ? I would to go the lightest and most compact solution I can. Would Matthews alu heavy lightstand and avenger D600 mini boom arm allow it ?
I would say the D600 should be OK. I'm not a huge fan of alu stands. The weight savings is off set by needed more shot bags. Because the stands as lighter, the rig is more top heavy when loaded.
Gaffer & Gear thank you for your insight Andrew. It makes sense, I have experienced it with alu medium stands and octabox even without offset weight like with a boom arm actually. I ll go heavier setup that will make me feel more confident then. Keep up your fantastic videos, they are truly priceless.
what abt lantern vs the space light? seems very similar?
what a boom stand that is
It's an avenger boom arm, they have many different sizes
Imagine, going from wildfire concerns in January, to flood concerns in February, to Corona virus today! Crazy! Thanks for taking my mind off the shelter-in-place order, Andrew. BTW, would there be a disadvantage to gelling the light prior to attaching the lantern? I'm guessing that a heat-rated gel cut to the size of the COB aperture wouldn't melt.
The fires seem like years ago
Any chance you could tell me more about that boom stand? Thanks for the great content!
I'll do an episode this year
@@gaffergear Awesome! Thanks!
how do you think that lantern compared to the space light ? The older version.
Also Hope it's getting better there in Australia, recently in Indonesia we experienced something similar. Stay strong there
I was torn between this and the space light. Space light looks to me like it would be a problem in a slight breeze. But the space light operates with the reflector on, so way brighter.
Andrew have you had a chance to check out the nanlite models yet? Just wondering how you think these compare to the Aputure version?
I haven't had a look
Great video. Would you mind linking the boom setup you have in this video?
Google....
Avenger D650 Junior Boom Arm with Counterweight (Chrome-plated)
@@gaffergear Thank you. Cheers!
First of all, your videos are invaluable. I’ve tried to read every comment here and I can see you’ve responded quite a few times…very patiently to say the least… mentioning that you are using the avenger d650. I’ve looked at it online and can’t figure out how you’re moving the boom up and down without adjusting the balance, and I thought this arm had to be locked and couldn’t be adjusted without it being so or a second person helping. Is someone off screen helping you, when you move it around like that? I do realise the lantern and light is not very heavy. If I used an Aputure 600d with 90cm lantern, would I have the same ease and flexibility as you’ve shown? Hopefully I’ve made some sense with my question:)
I've just got it balanced over the head of the stand with a slight bit if friction on the lock
@@gaffergear Thanks and really appreciate it Andrew:)
Hope you get some persistant rain soon. One question. Youre boom is rated for 10kg at 3 meters. But the 6.8 kg counterbalance can just hold an empty boom at 3m. What counter weights are you using for maxing 10kg at 3 meter?
I just use an additional shot bag, a 3 kg light is the heaviest thing I put on it, usually just a bi-color 4x1 mat or a 3x3 Aladdin 350. This set up is at what I would consider to be full extension for the weight, and even here it is a fraction front heavy.
It's a pain the the bulk of the corner weight is to counter the arm not the light, but I've found that lighter weight poles just flex into shot.
If the light is locked into a position I will use a ratchet strap from the rear of the pole to the base of the stand to make sure that the arm can't lower forwards.
What boom arm are you using for the lantern? Never seen it before...
Looks like a standart Avenger D650 Junior boom
Hello, Andrew. Do you recommend this (Apurture's Lantern) over Nanlite's options? Thanks for your time and another killa review.
Haven't seen the newer Nanlite, but I have sets of these and love em
Great. Thank you!
How did you do these timestamps? It looks like to me like scenes in a DVD movie. Can you export the video from your NLE with marks and TH-cam can recognise it?
You just put them in the description, as in type out an index. I didn't actually know it would do this.
What brand / link, of menace arm are you using in this video?
Avenger Manfrotto
Would you rather go for the 90cm version or recommend the 66cm? What size do you use more often?
The type of work I do bigger is better. The bigger the softer.
So I made the mistake of buying two of the godox versions of these, to use with my apurture 300d lights. They are bowens mount so I figured it would work fine.
They won’t even mount to the lights, because the speed ring cylinder that has the bowens notches is too short.
The only solution I can think of to fix this is to shave down the metal notches so that they are shorter, which might allow them fit into the 300d mount.
Do you have any better ideas?
Sounds like you have a good solution
Seldom do I subscribe to a channel after watching just one video
Do you have any suggestions to hold the gel?
Thank you
Not yet, some people are making cylinders out of gels, I just use the 300x if I want tungsten.
how to correctly put gells on this leds?
How does this Forza 300d compare to amaran 200d besides power ? The amaran is fan quieter than the forza but it does get warm which concerns me with color rendition.the amaran 200d or 200x bi color is lightweight was well
I haven't seen the amaran lights yet
Love the Monkey reference...
Can you recommend a list of grip & lighting equipment needed for an owner-operator grip van? I just got a Peugeot Partner but have no idea what else do i need other than lights, frames, stands etc
I can't really say, because my kit is very different to other gaffers I know. We all work differenty in different budget sectors. For example if I can't carry it by myself, I don't get it.
Start by asking the circle of DPs you know. What do they want you to have that you dont have. Or what gear would get you hired more by them.
Start compiling a wish list that way.
Then ask your circle of producers how much money they typically allow in the budget for grips and lights. From that point you can start to figure out what's practical to invest in, and what will never happen on that wish list.
Just remember, when your starting out you don't have a lot of gear, but your clients also don't have a lot of money. So don't worry about what you don't have, because if your client could afford that gear, they could afford a more experienced gaffer and you wouldn't be on that shoot getting the opertunity experience and contacts.
Don't buy any light you can't make profit on in under 3 years, because it will be obsolete.
@@gaffergear hey thanks for the reply! I'm actually the one that hires DPs and Gaffers but they're hard to please. They always ask me to get them M12s, M18s, Skypanels and I get that its a safe choice but I'm spending too much on rentals. I'm sure you understand how difficult it is to convince other gaffers to use LEDs haha.
So now I'm trying to build my own set that has all the essentials but I still can't figure out what to get haha, mostly because I have limited space in my Peugeot Partner
Don't buy anything that I cant carry by myself is a great tip though. Won't be getting a dana dolly i guess
Massive fan - what Boom are you using in this? Looks like a KUPO to me?
It's an Averager
Which one? I'm looking at building a rig just like this for more run + gun work and the rig in this video is exactly what I'm thinking of. I notice you've got a 300D and I'm thinking of using one of those but most of the smaller booms don't have the weight capacity.@@gaffergear
@@MetephorProductions D650
D650
Hi Andrew, was wondering if you’d found a good way to gel these yet?
Nope
@@gaffergear mm.. fire an Orbiter into it, I guess!
If you could only buy ONE what would you chose? A lantern or gridded softbox?
Gridded box
@@gaffergear simple but concise. Much appreciated.
Hi Andrew! I so appreciate your videos. What Menace Arm are you using? It looks like an Avenger? I need the Junior/Baby configuration you are using. The closest I am finding is the Avenger D600. Baby Pin only. What is it you are using? Thank you much!
Avenger / manfrotto D650
@@gaffergear Thank you, Andrew! I am 65 years old and should out of the biz. Instead... I go deeper and deeper... Once in the blood... Always in the blood!
Check out the Avenger boom stell stand 50! For this wheight that combo stand seems the perfect match! Im planning to get one
what kind of boom is that? thanks
Avenger D650
Do you prefer forza over apurture. i notice it a lot in your videos. Usually i see everyone with apurture all over youtube.
A big decider for me was the Forza 500 runs off my battery systems at full power. The 600D when it comes out won't. That would mean thousands of dollars in battery packs if I went the Aputure path.
@@gaffergear is the build good. like it wont break on me easily. i need a nice strong light that can use round modifiers.
@@RayValdezPhotography I've only had them about 4 months so a bit too early to say for sure, but I haven't had any issues yet. Build quality is strong, but the build quality on aputure is stronger. If I was traveling a lot with these in luggage I think aputure would be my choice, but as they are just bouncing around in a gaffer truck their fine
What stand is that exactly??
It's an Avenger D650 boom arm on a manfrotto wind up
Great idea - so I bought one.
... only to find that the firs time I was breaking it down three of the rods immediately snapped at the base 😞 Apparently no way to get replacements, which is a shame. Got a full refund but wary of repurchase.
Try the smallrig lantern perhaps. I've owned a smallrig RA-L65 Lantern for about 2 years now with no problems
Cheers! I’ll looking to it.
What kind of arm is that
Avenger D650
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2:34 i don't understand the name of the material
Grid cloth is a common industry diffusion. It is stitched in a grid formation so that if you get a hole in the Fabric it won't become a tare.
try and get some sort of respirator mask and stay safe!
Dude you should put affiliate links to these products so you can make some commission
Goddamn my mood is ruined by your circumstances over there :(
Makes video on lighting using just the worst lighting in the video rofl
Hey Mate! I just bought the lantern and 300D and wondering what's the best C Stand & boom pole is to support the weight? Thanks for your help!
I use a avenger boom arm, I would recommend looking at avenger or Kupo boom arms