Multi-cam Interview Lighting Breakdown ft. Aputure Lantern (a7S III/FX9)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2020
- Lighting multi-camera interviews can be tricky. When in doubt, light from overhead or cross-key. I thought the Sony a7S III & FX9 matched very well using these specific settings:a7S III: HLG3/rec709 (Black Level -15), FX9: S-cinetone. BTS was captured using another a7S III with no Picture Profile.
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Incredible!!!! This looks so good! Great video
@epiclightmedia I love how we are subscribed to the same "secret club channels" lol
Holy shit! I would gladly sit for a 15-20min version of this! Great stuff! So rapid fire, though, that I had to back it up and rewatch several parts.
Highly underrated channel man-great tips. These are the things an amateur might not think twice about knowing how to tackle a reflection like that is make or break. Thank you!
This channel and epic light media are the best no bs informative channels I've found, thanks!
this is the kind of content I am more interested in. Learning the why behind the setups. What went into making these decisions. Workflow. Need more of this. I appreciate the content you are putting out. A lot to learn.
Mate, just found your channel and subbed straight away. Love BTS videos like this. Very practical and informative.
Great info seeing how you managed the reflections. Always great content, Rob 🙌🏽
VERY nicely done! And shows the value of flexibility in gear AND A LIGHT METER! I always have two. Amazing how helpful a spot meter can be when you need to get the look right in the camera.
i thoroughly enjoy these lighting breakdowns. so detailed, so good!
This was great, Robert! Thank you for breaking it down so well.
Sir you have earned yet another subscriber. Very concise, many visuals to understand what’s going on. Thank you!
This is why I subscribed. Great info, tips, and knowledge. Straight to the point with no BS filler. Thanks for making these BTS shoots, I'm definitely sharing your channel.
100% Agree!
Same here, Brent. I was specifically looking for a video on how to use a lantern to light two speakers similar to this. Had no idea I would find exactly what I needed. Subscribed.
I apologize for making my last comment all about me. You turned me on to the Seconic light meter and though it is a steep learning curve your explanations have helped me a great deal. The light meter is and always will be an important tool for making objective decisions and keeping things consistent. I am a big believer of getting things right in camera as opposed to trying to create the look in post.
Great video and I love the way key light ended up looking.
Finally, I saw an understanding of what light is. You are the best.
Great video! That Matthew Junior boom is my friends secret weapon on jobs. That boom paired with a litemat 4 is always a dope combo.
Great looking stuff - hugely helpful breakdown!
Awesome tips! Great job with the reflection too, I hate dealing with those.
Nice to come across someone who takes the time to breakdown methods used in setup. I'm just here having a cup of coffee before heading off to a big suburban home for a lifestyle shoot today. Lighting systems for stills and video are quite similar. Cover weird reflections. Make sure subject doesn't look flat and balance the color.
Great video that's to the point. Really appreciated the behind the scenes and detailed description of your process without any awkward jokes or filler in the middle. You radiate professionalism and have earned a sub from me. I wish the video was a little longer, but I look forward to more content from you - especially comparisons between these two cameras.
I just picked up an a7SIII myself, but have never used an FX9. I'm really interested in the FX6 coming out later this year, as the a7SIII is all the image quality I need, but I'm still yearning for proper XLR ports, internal NDs, SDI connectors, and a deeper (not wider) body. The form factor of the FX6 looks perfect to me - but I wonder what direction they will take with the sensor. I assume the FX9 is higher-res, but that has traditionally lent the A7S series to be superior in low light in the past. I haven't seen many comparisons between that area specifically between the A7SIII and the FX9. If you had your say, would the FX6 take the sensor from the A7SIII or the FX9? The lower res also means lower processing which gets us that creamy 4K/120p in-camera... that's pretty tough to beat.
Thanks, you always have the best no bull, straight up professional presentation and information. One of the best sources for video production insights on the internet
Best Wishes
David J
Thanks, I love your lighting videos!
I’m impressed! Subscribed too! Keep it up bro! You’ll go BIG soon!!
great video dude. keep them coming
Thanks great video and it great to see the level of work and understanding about lighting is need to get set for a two person interview. Thanks for sharing.
Footage looks great! Thank you for breakdown.
thanks for this breakdown - very helpful and great insight to some lighting principles I can take with me anywhere
Learning A LOT from you dude!! Please keep it coming! - Thank you
Great video. Really informative but clear to understand. Subbed!
Love this content. Awesome vid
Wow!..........a lot I need to learn! Come on with more videos like this! Please!
great video
Dude, thank you.
Good break down
thank you
So helpful
Awesome stuff Robert, looks great and great info as well! Thanks for this breakdown, especially liked seeing the before frame. I'm not sure it's a good idea for me to point out the dislike but I just can't understand why someone would hit the thumbs down.
Who knows! I don't pay much attention to it anyway 🙂
awesome. very good
Excellent.
Excellent
Always click your vid man, such a great communicator.
Thanks, Dale!! Hope you've been well!
@@robchado doing well, business is ramping up here again so can’t complain. Shooting interviews a ton, although mask wearing isn’t exactly fun on set for hours at a time.
dude you are so talented at this. I am brand new to lighting and only have $30 work lights I picked up from a Samsclub style store. Maybe one day I will be at least 10% as skilled :D
That was me at one point!
Grip work is heavily underrated. The cutting of the reflections makes a huge difference in the final product. It is sometimes hard to convince clients on that end. It would great to know how you price your rate with grip/lighting!
I'd love to know this as well. It seemed like a pretty low key interview, I wonder what the budget range was on this?
Love the lighting diagram you show around 1:03, may I know which software you used for lighting diagram?
Long time follower first time commenter. Recently did the same set up with candidate interviews here in Indiana. I felt that all other TV set ups favored a camera-side key but I wanted a more impactful (in my opinion) far-side key. So, using an Arri 5 light kit, I set up 2 650s on c-stands with doubled gobo arms to keep the stands out of shot. Those gave me f5.6 read off of my Seconic 858. Then 2 300s bounced off a 4x4 foam core to give me an even f2.8 for fill. I used 2 150s for back lights. The 2 shot was 1920x1080 shot on an fs7 and the singles were shot at 4K on fs5s. I shot 4 k because at 800ISO (with the black bg) the fs5s were noisy so down-resing to HD was my poor mans de-noiser. All in all I feel like I did a pretty good job. Of course there’s points I could improve on but having done this all alone (set up, shoot, edit) I think I did pretty well.
Here’s one of the pieces. th-cam.com/video/o2CUqOC-Ll8/w-d-xo.html
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Was this a movie scene or a interview 😱😱
Is there anyway you can please a link to every single peace of gear you used on this video, down To the gaffer tape.
Nice. You got a really good match from the A7s. That was a big setup. 2 or 3 person crew? Audio guy? or did you handle audio too?
You are really someone with lot of proper information. Mind blowing. However, one little question. How should we choose the lights,diffusers/flags and rigs before hand? I meant fixtures and numbers. Or we should have one general set which will work in almost all cases?
I think about everything beforehand while I'm drawing up a lighting diagram- it really just depends on what I'm trying to convey. I'll pick fixtures that give desired color/output, then add modifiers depending on the scene.
The great thing about Aputure's 300d is the amount of modifiers available as well as the tremendous output.
Excellent video content, Robert! Just one suggestion, if I may... SLLLOOOWWWW DOOWWWNNN! Lol! There's a lot of information to consume, so a slow paste would be helpful! Just my opinion...thanks again though!
Man this is a great breakdown! I'm curious what would the ballpark charge them for a project like this?
Yes, just what I was wondering. That's an elaborate setup with a crew to assist. I imagine with the post-production work this was at least a few grand.
I would love to know what the financials were for this shoot. What was the overall invoice, what did you quote the client, and what was the pricing for gear, lighting and assistants?
It seems like this shoot is straightforward so I can't imagine the client having a huge budget for a crew and equipment of this size.
qty 2. FX9 $20,000
Qty 1. A7S iii $3,500
Qty 2. Aputure 300d $2,000
Qty 1. Aputure 600d $2,000
Qty 1. Sony G master 16-35mm $2,000
Qty 1. sony G master 85 mm f1.8 $1,800
Qty 1. Sony G master 7-200 f2.8 $2,799
Light modifiers around $2,000 to 3,000
Audio Equipment 2 boom mics at least $4,000 assuming is the senheiser 8060
C-stands and tripods $3,000
Field sound recorder pre-Mix pre 12 $9,000
Wireless receivers and transmitters teradek $3,000
Monitoring hardware maybe $6,000
so yeah you could say at least $50,000+ in video gear. this wasn't straight forward, he is just a pro so he is making it look easy. he went over lighting ONLY. he did such a great job, I dont think this was cheap!!
Great info as always. Which junior boom was that? looks well built
Matthews Junior Boom!
Hey, thanks for showing us that setup. May I know the reference of your “T bar” that old those diffusion rags ?
They are part of a 6x6 Matthews frame. They snap apart and are easy to store. Since we're not using the full frame, we're able to use the two ends for two separate rags.
Great video, what size lantern is that, 2 or 3 foot?
Fantastic video. Super appreciated. Quick question: I noticed in the scouting photo, the talent was much farther away from each other than what ended up being the case on the actual shoot. While I think the far-side key looked great, you mentioned that you opted for that because of the distance between the talent. Would you have cross-keyed like you had originally envisioned if you knew the client would end up sitting closer together? Thanks again.
The biggest factor were the tables separating talent; since I knew they were going to be in frame, I knew there would be a pretty large minimum distance in between talent. If the tables weren't there, I would've probably cross-keyed!
I´d like to know how would the lightning setup be if there was a third person hosting between those two guys
Great content!
What is the size of the lantern?
And what is your opinion about the aputure lantern compared to others?
And what overall size would you recommend?
Thank you in advance!
When you’re delivering your on-camera portions, are you using a teleprompter? Everything just flows so nicely.
I am! It makes filming on-camera bits 100x less miserable.
Just checked out your website. Ever run into the guys from Light Forge Studios? They’re old buddies from when I lived and worked in Vegas in the lat 90’s thru 2002.
What's the though process between choosing to use a C stand or 'tripod' stand (the big silver ones in the video)? Is weight the determining factor? Or something else to do with usability? I'm looking into buying some bigger stands and am not really sure what to start with
Combo stands are meant for larger loads and can extend much higher than c-stands with much more stability. Most combos can handle 60-70 lbs while c-stands can support around 20.
what about a polarizer to get rid of extra reflection?
For corporate work I have 2 aputure 600d but I was deciding if I should get 2 Nova 300c or 2 aputure 1200d ? I like 2 Nova 300c because I can also use the RGB for music videos but I dnt know if I will need that extra light for my corporate work
Interesting that you decided to bake in a color profile rather than shooting in Log. The benefits are obvious, I just wouldn't have initially expected it for a professional shoot like this
I do it for this client specifically. Normally I shoot log.
@@robchado just goes to show it's another piece in the toolbox 👍
I can't find a junior boom like that anywhere. Do you happen to have a link where I could buy that?
My man! Could you do a video on contrast-ratios, and how to achieve a "project-tone"?
Check out my light meter series. "Project tones" ultimately depend on taste and early conversations in pre-pro!
@@robchado Looks solid, thanks!
Are those 2 Matthews floppy 48×48 ?
Where do you do your lighting diagrams? They look super clean!
Concepts for iPad. I did a video on it a few months back!
@@robchado thanks so much!!
Another great vid. What’s the tool you use to produce the overhead mock-ups of your set ups?
Concepts for iPad. I did a few on it a few months back!
@@robchado ahh I see - so you created the illustration assets yourself? They aren’t from a pack or anything? Cool. Thanks 👍
@@alexherrera1412 The actual icons are from a pack called Film Set Objects!
@@robchado Amazing! This just what Im looking for - thank you - Have just found your vid on the subject too so will give that a watch. Have given you a follow on here and insta 🙏
how much would you charge for something like this?
What light stand did you use for the lantern/boom?
Matthews combo!
Hello, what size lantern have you used? Smaller lanterns softboxes punch light more than bigger lanterns? Bigger ones will spread light on to a larger area but the projected light is less powerful?
I am looking at that Boom arm right now for my Aputure Nova P300. It weights 22lbs and the weight limit of the boom arm is 25lbs. Pushing it and so I have two questions. 1) Is this the stand you used with it: Matthews Hollywood Triple Riser Stand with 4.5" Grip Head (15') 2) Do you feel the Boom arm is safe at max limit?
The Nova might be a little much for the arm. Once you extend the arm and adjust the fulcrum, you would need a ton of counterweight. I might look into a menace arm kit, which might actually be cheaper.
@@robchado Thanks. I was looking at the Matthews Triple Riser with a load capacity of 68 lbs. However you are correct, I completely missed the thought process about the counterweight at extension. I don't know a ton about grip equipment yet so I'll research the menace arm kit. Thanks Robert
@@Justin_Allen Grip Tips has a great video on the Menace Arm!
@@robchado Just looked at it :p I think the issue is the weight limits when you look at the stand capacity, the light, and the counterweights. It almost looks like getting a Matthews Mini Max Boom would be a more compact solution. It has a weight limit of 25lbs out to 8 feet so it should work. SMH, so many options :p
Hey Robert I have a quick question. If you didn’t already own Sony lenses would you purchase the Sony FX9 over the canon C300 Mark III for corporate talking heads shoots?
Depends on what's being rented in the market. That way I can supplement my rental income on top of corporate work. I get a lot of Sony requests especially for doc work, but a lot of corporate jobs tend to lean Canon. Another factor to consider is what your local colleagues own. That way whenever you're asked for multiple cameras, you can bring in cameras in a similar ecosystem.
@@robchado thanks for the insightful response.
What brand c-stands do you recommend?
I like Matthews! A lot of rental houses use MSE or American Grip.
Why no cinetone on a7siii? Was this before the firmware was updated?
Yes, this was before Cinetone was available for the a7S III.
I imagine the a7s3 had to have the c box on it to run SDI to the decimator?
Yep!
when do you shoot all this video u did 4k or 1080? smallhd work with 4k?
We shot in 4K. You can output a 1080p signal to a SmallHD monitor.
@@robchado so with my red komodo I dnt need a taradek to use monitor ? I can just plug it in small hd monitor with wired set up ?
what is the budget range for such a job ?
What was the budget?
Which light tripod was that lantern on?
Combo stand.
How come you didn’t use slog 3 on the a7s?
For this client, I always bake in looks.
@@robchado oh I see, yeah just wondered why you wouldn’t use the PP with more potential. Looks great anyways
Is it worth it? Do you earn big money from doing all this set up? I think professional photographers and videographers value the equipment a lot more than it needs to be.
how long did setup take?
Looks quick and simple. Maybe 2 minutes 😀
About 2 hours!
@@RichardsWorld what value exactly did your reply add?
@@robchado thanks Robert; 2 hrs is pretty quick when you're on your own
@@doubledark2 It was a joke. I'm sorry if you are such a serious person. This was obviously a complex setup that one average person would not just walk in and complete quickly.
impressive lol
This is the kind of stuff I'm always looking for. Tricks of the trade. Thanks homie.