BATTLETECH: The Banshee

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  • More than any other Mech overview videos I’ve done so from, the #Banshee feels like a story. It’s what inspired the Thumbnail’s name even. #Battletech and #Mechwarrior rarely has stories such as this, about a #Battlemech. This machine would start as a burden on many militaries that possessed it, and would become the greatest defender of the #LyranCommonwealth. This is the one #InnerSphere #mech that would stand its ground and battle its #Clan counterparts to a bloody standstill.
    The Banshee is responsible for saving millions of lives, and keeping countless more millions, free. It is a weapon which is a hero in its own right. Rarely do weapon systems in the Inner Sphere, impact lives so positively.
    The #LCAF, and House #Steiner, owe the Banshee a debt that cannot easily be repaid.
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  • @mareczek00713
    @mareczek00713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Banshee, a mech left to rot in the dumpster of history that came back to life to hunt enemies of Lyrans as well as clanners not expecting a beast that can rush their pretty Mad Cats, tear out legs of one and beat a second one to death with it.
    A suitable name.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      This thing is a genuine hero to the Lyrans. They owe this machine a great debt.

    • @mattikuokkanen
      @mattikuokkanen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@BigRed40TECH "There is still a place for lighter equipment like Banshee and Zeus."

    • @davidandrew6235
      @davidandrew6235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BNC has less speed, heat dissipation, and potential damage than the Prime while only having 10 more armor. Idk if I would say it "destroys" the Timber Wolf in a 1v1. Economically however, on the table top you can have 2 banshees for every prime which is a win in of itself.

    • @mareczek00713
      @mareczek00713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidandrew6235 Bro, better tonnage and melee with enough speed and armor to actually reach the Mad Cat before getting melted, contrary to average IS Assault at the time.
      Clanners have better range so knifefighting is where you win.

    • @davidandrew6235
      @davidandrew6235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For 20 more tons you only get 10 points of armor distributed throughout the mech. The Timber Wolf walks the Banshee's Run so the Banshee is never going to be able to use the weight in melee. Not saying it's a bad mech I just don't agree the banshee wins in a 1v1. You can field 2 Banshees for the same BV which I think tips the scales in their favor as a mech made for full scale war. Just my two cents though :)

  • @jessejohnson9871
    @jessejohnson9871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Reminds me of a Porsche 911. If you keep engineering a Beetle long enough you might eventually get something worthwhile.

    • @calebharris292
      @calebharris292 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or it just becomes a passat

  • @michaelkimberling7307
    @michaelkimberling7307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    To be fair it is the 3rd oldest Battlemech design by age (2445). Being beaten by the mackie (2439) and the emperor (2442). Pretty much a era of throw it at the wall and see what sticks. So not bad considering the limited choice of mechs at the time just quickly made obsolete.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It didn't really go into production though until a few decades after that, though it was designed then.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was originally put to production around the same time as the Zeus

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's really good if you need a very large distraction.

    • @neosavior9305
      @neosavior9305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshkellemen5931 they do being the one that made the video and looked up the lore he's giving. Gonna guess that you aren't popular with the ladies eh Joshy boy

    • @djbrouwer7712
      @djbrouwer7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about the Bellerophon?

  • @Bomfunker91
    @Bomfunker91 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The BNC-3S and its successors is my favourite mech in all of Battletech. A walking wall of metal and guns, rising from the gutter to stand proud and indomitable. It personifies the LCAF more than any other machine in the setting IMO.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea, this is one of my favourite videos I've produced for that reason. Helped inform how I'd do videos going forward to.

    • @odinulveson9101
      @odinulveson9101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the Banshee. Its terror can be applied to Fleas and Shadow Hawks aswell. Starts out like ABSOLUTE trash tier mechs but tech, time and love while avoiding scapegoating makes them a threat if underestimated. Let them be undersetimate them I say 😈

  • @yourseatatthetable
    @yourseatatthetable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    When I first got my 3025 TRO and was comparing assault mechs, I kept thinking, 'Well, at least it wasn't a Charger'. Like the Charger, the Banshee was one of those Mechs that I would modify ASAP. The extra heat sinks always stood out, making me think that some bean counter tweaked the original design, saving credits by cutting an energy weapon that it obviously was meant to field.

    • @Kieselmeister
      @Kieselmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's got 2 more heat sinks than it can even use, has 6 more than it needs to fire it's primary armament, and is 3.5 tons short of maximum armor. Converting 3 heat sinks to armor and dropping the small laser turns it into an extremely durable, heat neutral, command mech for a unit of line heavies. Matching their speed while carrying more armor than is possible for any smaller mech, while still providing a comparable level of sustained long range fire. (15 sustained damage matches the thunderbolt and the warhammer, while the archer and marauder can sustain 20)
      Depending on one's tolerance for overheating, up to 3 more tons of heat sinks can be dropped for other equipment. For example, a command console, or a battery of 3 medium lasers as a close range bracket to alternate with the PPC. (Or a compromise of 1 heat sink to overheat only on movement, and the 2 tons of additional communications equipment required for a satellite uplink & initiative bonus.)

    • @yourseatatthetable
      @yourseatatthetable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kieselmeister Awesome examples of the modification friendly Banshee.

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Kieselmeister yeah, my Banshee in the BEX mod for the HBS game was a massive threat, knocking down mechs left and right. I only replaced it once I got my hands on a beserker

    • @Ti-nf4fq
      @Ti-nf4fq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kieselmeister sounds good to me. 👍

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Designed before its time, built in time to avoid the age of stagnation to follow, then upgraded to be one of the kings of the battlefield. Kind of like a malaise era musclecar. Everything was crap, engines, suspension, transmission, but has the bones to be great, which Hot Rodders and Tuners figured out in ensuing decades.

  • @a_happyteddy_bear3101
    @a_happyteddy_bear3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The Banshee is an appropriate name cause it haunts the dreams of clanners.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Imagine being the Timber Wolf that gets Gauss Rifled in the head because they think that it's just some old BNC-3E. lol

    • @a_happyteddy_bear3101
      @a_happyteddy_bear3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@BigRed40TECH Every clanner be gangsta till the Banshee get's an upgrade.

    • @Engelbote117
      @Engelbote117 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am a clanner and that was a good one! Banshee is best assault mech

    • @BruceEverett
      @BruceEverett ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigRed40TECH Back in late 1990/early '91, I purchased The Battletech Compendium before TRO 3050 and the GM at the time allowed me to design customizations of some of the mechs in the mercenary unit (within limits, and within c-bill budget). The end result was a configuration *very* similar to the BNC-5S, albeit with a Cyclops head/cockpit/computer/comms to make it a command mech roleplay wise (made no difference on the tabletop, obvs). It was the chariot of the oldest and best Mechwarrior in the unit, who also happened to be a fan of Lyran mech engineering and a former LCAF Mechwarrior during the late 3rd SW. Basically he'd been dreaming of something like this since 3028.
      Anyhoo, GM got TRO 3050 soon afterward, and we moved on to the Clan Invasion.
      First round of the first engagement with Jade Falcon, Old Mate in his Banshee took a Clan ER PPC to the face. His gauss rifle shot missed its target. Just another day in the life of a Spheroid. *Womp womp*

  • @Squiggles01
    @Squiggles01 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Claners) *Laughs at the Banshee pilot for using it and gloating about how good they are before going silent as music starts.*
    Banshee pilot) *The only thing they fear is you starts playing.*

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is one of the best comments I've gotten in months, this made me smile, thank you, lol.

  • @Wallenquist
    @Wallenquist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A mech that went through its own hero's journey. Brings a tear to the eye.

  • @downix
    @downix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What always struck me about the original 3025 TRO Banshee is that it was clearly an antique concept, developed before anyone understood Battlemech combat. It was the first mass produced model after the Mackie, and made a lot of mistakes. That it exists in this awkward form is part of what makes Battletech feel more realistic than other future combat games.

  • @faithmcclosky4528
    @faithmcclosky4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I think you knocked one out of the park with this one, Red, this was an absolutely great video, I would say your best mech video to date. You hit all the points, told a compelling story, and brought life to the mech. Great job. The Banshee was neverf one of my favorite mechs, but you make a good case for it here in the video.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks! It took a long time to script, but also, it had the story really just waiting there to trace over and see all the connecting dots.

    • @matthewbirdsall9518
      @matthewbirdsall9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed! Very pleased the Banshee is getting it's moment in the sun. Because it's so wonky so how I like it more.

    • @Supra625
      @Supra625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Makes me want to look for the BNC-12S in MW5. Not sure there’s one but will look...LOL

  • @ChazTheYouthful
    @ChazTheYouthful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "They became the herald of house.."
    Banshee : "My name's not Harold"

  • @blue95kun
    @blue95kun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The one mech that benefited the most from Lostech. And definitely a very scary one from the 3S models onwards.

  • @CharlesUrban
    @CharlesUrban 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Sounds like someone in the design room insisted on making the original Banshee fast--they sacrificed weapons space on the altar of speed, and in doing so, they made that speed irrelevant. Defiance knew better than to try turning a 95-ton behemoth into a sprinter. The moment they decided to downgrade that engine, the mech design came into its own.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And once it got access to an XL engine, it's one of the few mechs that legitimately benefited from one.

    • @aker1993
      @aker1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH IS XL engine sucks ass they are not as durable unlike standard or even light engine also XL engine have more pod space taken in both chest area.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@aker1993 I am aware of the shortcomings of XL engines, but not all desigsn that have them are as negatively impacted as others.

    • @cavalryscout9519
      @cavalryscout9519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@aker1993 IS XLs are a lot less bad in roleplaying campaigns, since mechs are a lot more likely to withdraw or surrender than go on until they can no longer fight, and usually a mission isn't worth winning if you lose a mech doing it. Preserving your fighting force and your C-Bills is usually a lot more important than winning any individual skirmish, so it becomes pretty rare to see the sort of risky play that results in losing a torso.

    • @mq5731
      @mq5731 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is my favorite punching machine in BT. Upgrade it to a 400 series engine, give it some better arm actuators and jump Jets, and this thing will break the backs of anything.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the Orginal Banshee: so named for the scream of frustration from the pilots who got one one of these wastes of space.
    the REBORN BANSHEE: NAMED FOR THE HELLISH SCREAMS OF HEAVY METAL ROCKING PILOTS.

  • @furiousdefiler7734
    @furiousdefiler7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Because I am quite new to battletech I got to see the Banshee's evolution through MW5. I don't know if it still happens but even early on in the game you could find one of the 3Es in a shop alongside light mechs. At first I freaked out because I saw the tonnage then I looked at the weapons and realized why I could (barely) afford a 95 ton assault mech. Also the 3M is fantastic for ai because not having weapons in the arms means they break them far less often.

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd have gotten it immediately, regardless of weapons having an assault mech early on will let your lance punch well above its weight class

  • @skyvipers
    @skyvipers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would've loved to see a Clanners face when invading the IS and then seeing (what you thought would've been) an ancient Mech now upgraded with ER-PPC's and a Gauss doing 64 kph

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even the 3S could cause trouble to some clanners, but the 5S? That thing is a big "fuck off" mech. lol

    • @skyvipers
      @skyvipers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BigRed40TECH Some clanner scum on the radio-comms after getting cored out: "But the battle report said that the Banshee should only have 1 PPC and 1 AC5!"

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skyvipers Whose not sure what they're fighting now, clanner-scum! lol

  • @BazztheBazz
    @BazztheBazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One thing I will say for the poor old BNC-3E: while it's incredibly disappointing on the battlefield, it's GREAT for Solaris VII games. A 95-ton melee mech for gladiators that constantly trick out their rides for melee? It's the one place the 3E truly belongs.

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Your prolific rate of videos and your music choice make you one of my favorite Battletech creators

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do this full time. lol

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not making bank do this. But it's something I enjoy. :)

    • @rossato2109
      @rossato2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love his videos too but I rather when he uses mechwarrior 2 musics. I like a lot the new Battletech game musics but Mechwarrior 2 (and mercenaries) are so cool.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I typically do use MW2 music and such, but I really felt that this video needed music that matched the theme, which was really strange, because as I did research and wrote the script, it very much made me feel like it had more of a heroes journey, despite not being a living person. I felt the BT video game's soundtrack better encompassed that. :)

    • @rossato2109
      @rossato2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH It did feel right for this video for sure!

  • @HarperStl
    @HarperStl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the Banshee. Maybe I just have a thing for the underdog.
    The -3M is my favorite - it’s relatively cheap, retains the high top speed for a 95 tonner, and has better firepower. I do like to tinker with my mechs though, and I like to replace the PPCs with large lasers and add two additional medium lasers, one additional heat sink, and put the remaining ton into leg armor. Large lasers fit the Banshee’s run-up-and-maul play style a bit better IMO, with no minimum range and less heat do you can fairly reliably fire both off while closing the gap. Then, once you get in close, you can start throwing punches, kicks, and using the quartet of mediums to do real damage.
    Additionally I did tinker with the -3E at one point, taking a similar path - I replaced the PPC and AC-5 with a large laser and an AC-10 with the same idea - no minimum range and an auto cannon shot that will make mediums and lights reconsider their life choices. It’s similar to the Canopus BNC-3MC but with more ammo, a smidge less heat, and better mid and short range performance.

  • @CMDR_Saber84
    @CMDR_Saber84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really well done. Gave the old Banshee the respect it finally earned with later models

  • @HandlesAreStupid2024
    @HandlesAreStupid2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how when I listen to your videos I end up at the end thinking. "I want to buy some more of these."

  • @TehSquare
    @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Looking at the original version and how close it was to the Mackie, it almost seems like they were trying to take that same armament profile of a PPC, lasers, and an autocannon and make it faster. The end result is certainly better than the early Mackie and the primitive mechs of the Age of War but I think that the military industrial complex of the Star League outpaced what it’s own internal R&D could produce.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's such a tragedy that only Marik tried to do anything with it during the Star League era, and even then, the 3M just isn't enough. No one wanted to sacrifice that 380 standard engine.

    • @jogro9769
      @jogro9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH agreed. I under stand why they wanted the bigger engine. Having assault that can keep up with line units is nice. Sadly it's to heavy and trying to emulate the Mackie.

    • @TehSquare
      @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigRed40TECH The -3MC the Canopians tried in TRO 3039 is kind of a step in a better direction since it kept the GM 380 and armor but stripped five heat sinks out for an AC/10. It’s one of those designs where Endo Steel and XL Engine technology really started to make the concept of a fast assault more viable.

  • @tarron3237
    @tarron3237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing a generous amount of medium lasers couldn't fix, even with the original engine 😎
    Ahh, the joy of classic Battletech min-maxing.

  • @h0shidont35
    @h0shidont35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I adore this mech, and its story. From a easily ignorable footnote, to a howling terror, able to put clanners in their place. It was also such a joy to find this mech's 3S variant for the first time in Mechwarrior 5. That thing shredded like nobody's business.

  • @primafacie5029
    @primafacie5029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Banshee S was my first mech in my first 3025 campaign. Bundle of fun.

  • @Engelbote117
    @Engelbote117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes! my favorite assault mech gets some attention. I feel I must clarify, I play Clan and Inner Sphere. There are things that I like about both, but the Inner Sphere seems to have more of an underdog feel to them. Which makes it so much more satisfying when I can fry a clanner with them. This being said, I play solid House Steiner when I play Inner Sphere, and the Banshee is always the flagship of my Lance. Outfitted with 2 ERPPC's, an SRM-6, and a Gaus Rifle it snipes the enemies of the Lyran Commonwealth to great effect as it closes to tear them limb from limb! House Steiner forever! ✊

  • @nobodyspecial9097
    @nobodyspecial9097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hated my Banshee when I first got it, but after sinking a few Million C-bills into it to get a Light Fusion Engine, Dual Heat Sinks, & Heavy Ferro, I was actually able to get the weapons mounted I wanted it on it while still maxing out on Armor.
    Ultra AC/20 (c) 4 tons of ammo
    Large Laser (c)
    4x Magshots 2 tons of ammo
    The Banshee will always be in its element in melee engagements, but if it cant trade shoots with the enemy while it attempts to find an opening to exploit that advantage, its essentially just a damage sponge and while that can be useful in itself that's not what I would want filling my Assaults Mech slot, if I had other options.

  • @italoviturino6386
    @italoviturino6386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every once in a while i return to this video, such good script and atmosphere with the ost, great job red, masterpiece

  • @meshuggahshirt
    @meshuggahshirt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: three centuries later the Imperator-A would become one of the Inner Sphere's most ubiquitous autocannons when it was mounted on both the Dragon and RFL-3N Rifleman.
    My headcanon is that in both cases it was chosen because the production lines to keep Banshees serviceable had deep stores of spare parts and surplus ammo nobody else wanted.

  • @Aceman52
    @Aceman52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Banshee 3S and 5S are badass assault platforms. They're damn near perfect machines

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only weakness the 5S has, is for salvage purposes, it doesn't have a CASE. Which the 12S remedies.

    • @merkarion7883
      @merkarion7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigRed40TECH The missing CASE and that the 5S has only one ton of Gauss-Ammo. But if you change the Internal-Structure into Endo-Steel you have the weight to install CASE, one additional Ton of Gauss Ammo, 2 more Double Heatsinks and more Armor.
      This is the only think i would change for a Custom Banshee BNC-5S...and it is ironically not very expensive.

  • @wheturangi
    @wheturangi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review. Every time I see a BNC-3S, I know its going to be a long fight. The ugly duckling turned into a beautiful swan.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a beautiful Canadian Goose. lol

  • @Deathwig1
    @Deathwig1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The banshee needs more love as it's often stuck living in the shadow of other assault mechs like the atlas. I myself often looked down on it as an under-gunned assault mech but its later variants helped me to appreciate the design.

  • @kyleodland6249
    @kyleodland6249 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ancient relics of past wars, revived and renovated to put fear into the fearless.

  • @Chris_Sizemore
    @Chris_Sizemore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is a sweet spot in each weight range where you can give an average speed without giving up too much weight to mount a decent offense and defense. In light mechs that turns out to be around 6/9 movement. Medium mechs range from 5/8 to 4/6 for that sweet spot as you get closer to 60 tons. Heavy mechs are solidly in the 4/6 movement bracket. 80 ton assaults can get away with 4/6 movement but as you get to 90 and above that the engine to maintain 4/6 movement swells in tonnage. Assault mechs are just better accepting 3/5 movement and using the tonnage saved to be what people expect: Hard hitting and really thick armor.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think that 4/6 is possible at 90 tons, though I'd not say that this is ideal, but DEFINITELY not at 95. Once you hit 95, unless you've got a Light Engine or XL engine, it's just asking for trouble.

    • @waltermcgarvin8001
      @waltermcgarvin8001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH Put MASC or Triple Strength Myomer on an Atlas and watch it charge anything at 6 Movement.... OUCH!

  • @persh7306
    @persh7306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yooo, my favourite mech!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A worthy mech to be a favourite at that :D

  • @calumdeighton
    @calumdeighton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first use of the Banshee was the updated 3S model in MW5. And my word did I fall in love with the thing when I first used it.
    Standard drop mission. Drop in, destroy enemy facilities & bug out. I was in the Banshee with an Archer, an Orion I think and maybe a second or a Marauder, not sure. Anyways we dropped in and pushed to the base. I didn't have to use my lasers on the approach and when we got there. I think I destroyed around 200 to 250 tons worth of mech including an Atlas in the course of the mission. And my armour wasn't even in the red and I suffered very little heat management problems. It was glorious.

  • @The_Captainn
    @The_Captainn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a weird sleep schedule so maybe I'm off here but... two videos in one day? Wow. Subbed. I didn't even realize I wasn't subbed before, but you deserve it.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm working on another video that will go live tomorrow morning as well. :)

  • @rmcdudmk212
    @rmcdudmk212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I always compared the Banshee to the Charger in the fact that both of their early models kinda sucked but were replaced by better variants later. Thou the original Banshee is leagues better the the original Charger.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the Charger never really becomes a good mech, except in a few tactical variants like the 1A5. The BNC however, just runs away after 3026. What an amazing mech.

    • @rmcdudmk212
      @rmcdudmk212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH the Draconia Combine made some pretty decent Charger variants if we are counting the Hatomato series. 😂

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rmcdudmk212 I don't count those as the same. lol

    • @DevilPogoStick
      @DevilPogoStick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Banshee at least had enough leeway for improvement as it's made for combat though it'll take technological advances and time for the mech to finally get the variant that actually does its intended role.
      The Charger meanwhile was just doomed since it was designed to be a scout...Nothing more. Some variants are a nice surprise but frankly there's nothing remarkable about the Charger when you're in a pinch.

  • @WolfsDragoonPRGuy
    @WolfsDragoonPRGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 12s is my Go to Battle Mech to fight Clanners on a even playing field

  • @anthonyvogel9328
    @anthonyvogel9328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be fair, in the old school BattleTech . You had to give up speed or weapons or armor or heat in the old success wars.

  • @gerritvandenbosch4681
    @gerritvandenbosch4681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The backing track and your dialogue in this video are especially good

  • @Kaiju-Driver
    @Kaiju-Driver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "To hear the howls is to confront death"
    (Tank Commander)

  • @jabronijones90
    @jabronijones90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like this mechs story of starting from the bottom to being almost at the top. Absolutely menacing!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clanners beware, you're in for a scare.

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
    @ThatSlowTypingGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a good length video. Enough to get the important points across about a mech.

  • @MKmaki6094
    @MKmaki6094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice! Been waiting for you to cover this rags to riches Mech!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Riches?
      The Banshee is a god damn hero. lol

    • @MKmaki6094
      @MKmaki6094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigRed40TECH hear hear lol

  • @b.s.4478
    @b.s.4478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used to hate it, but now is one of my favorite mechs. As an energy weapon boat, it's a beast! And looks cool too.

  • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
    @LORDOFDORKNESS42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, I've really learned to enjoy the Banshee. Sure, stacked against other Assaults, it's early models are lacking... but~ it's such a good harasser and Light/Medium hunter. The BNC-3M especially with a good pilot, can go up against entire swarms of Locusts and have a fighting chance.
    But~, well. For just 100K more... you get a dang Atlas. And every other mech seems piddly next to that monster. So I do get why most later models of the Banshee just went for MORE GUN in their entire design focus.

  • @olliski2802
    @olliski2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just painted one. Now I’m doing my research don’t know a lot about this mech. Thanks for the video.

  • @rh352
    @rh352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeeeeeeeeeah, once the 3S came off the assembly line, the Banshee became one of my favorite assault mechs in the entire game! And prior to the Clan Invasion, it was easily in my top 3! Excellent coverage of this one, Red! Thanks for your incredible work!

  • @noanswer1864
    @noanswer1864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A decently modern Banshee is an amazing battlefield tool, especially if it has been refit for it's task. You want your cheap 95 tonner to be a melee brawler? Cool, slap three SNPPCs, and one AC 20. Go out there any keep pace with anything that isn't an Atlas in the squared circle. They just don't have the hard points to be good "all rounders." But if you specialize one, or purchase a specialized one, a Banshee is a beast. I'd take it over a Mauler any day of the week.

  • @beskar66
    @beskar66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloody fantastic video Red favourite so far plus I love how you say STEINER, such emphasis on the STEIN. From Zero to Hero indeed

  • @YesNoMaybeOkSure
    @YesNoMaybeOkSure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To be fair - when it was first designed it was alright. It was one of the first battlemechs and all of it's contemporaries were primitive machines. It's only when the switchover from "primitive" tech to "standard" tech happened and the manufacturer tried to respond to the criticism of the unit's low speed is when it really started to fall behind. And I love that sometimes these otherwise unremarkable designs survive the Succession Wars precisely because they are unremarkable - being shunned from the front lines saved them. All the better that the Lyrans had the machine in numbers, the original plans, and the manufacturing facilities able to do a complete makeover of this magnitude - they ultimately produced an amazing machine.

  • @Hit_by_a_Parked_Car
    @Hit_by_a_Parked_Car ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In MW5 using YAML and whatnot I’ve created a jump jet melee banshee with 6 mp(c) lasers. Each punch is estimated to deal over 80 damage and its got two fists, and it’s slightly up armored. It also has an ECM and an AMS. I’ve been jumping at enemy assault mechs and coming out with no structure damage.

  • @mattikuokkanen
    @mattikuokkanen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First Banshee model is BNC-1E. Primitive tech, slower, but with additional 2 Medium Lasers. Not a bad one compared to Mackie. Source: Experimental Technical Readout: Primitives Vol. 2.
    BNC-3E has its share of heroic tales. In one fan fiction BNC-3E uproots a tree and whacks Awesome on the head. Based on a played scenario. I have had personal success with BNC-3E myself: I have pretty much duplicated TRO3039 cover page on the table. In MegaMek game, I have forced a player with Atlas to throw the towel, and in another scenario I used two BNC-3E to corner a Griffin (inexperienced player, I guess). Variants predating BNC-3S have earned some love as well. MegaMek wiki descrbes one variant as: "BNC-3Q has AC/20 and a bad attitude." To paraphrase another player regarding Hellbringer: "BNC-3E is cool anyway. It isn't cool because it suck. It is cool because it suck WITH BALLS!"

  • @Reverb154
    @Reverb154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, an ugly duckling becoming an beautiful swan of war!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a Canadian Goose, beating up Clanners.

  • @jaybadhorse5096
    @jaybadhorse5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm an Orion driver from way back and have always wanted to get my hands on one of these

  • @shukilevyandbrookesheildsl2638
    @shukilevyandbrookesheildsl2638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used a 5S to help tear apart a Clan Star at Owlcon back in '06. I always try to find some way of including either that or the 3S whenever I drop ever since. I need to try out the 12S.

  • @thomasscroggs4410
    @thomasscroggs4410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Part of the Banshee's success in Lyran hands has to be taking advantage of its bad reputation.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. Imagine being that clanner who thinks he's fighting a 3E, but he's really fighting for his own life. lol

  • @AvenValkyr
    @AvenValkyr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the hero version of this mech in MW5 and man it is INSANE. Still havent found an atlas but even if I had 4 of them, i would still only run 3 and have my main character sit in my hero banshee. Its sporting over 125 dps and yeah its a BEAST

  • @legomech1946
    @legomech1946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly my favorite mech of all time, and you totally get why.

  • @penis0100
    @penis0100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Irish legends, there is a woman creature called the banshee. When she screams, doom and gloom are sure to follow. Thanks to House steiner, they have saved a design that has so much potential. With the mix of lasers, missile launchers, auto cannons and a Gauss Rifle, House Steiners banshee screams destroy clan Jade falcon or even there more traditional enemy the Draconis combine…

  • @MrSteve0311
    @MrSteve0311 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Mech Overview series has been fantastic. I especially love the ones where you incorporate gameplay of the mech from MW5, brings the whole thing to life. Good stuff.

  • @BigEazy-xj4rq
    @BigEazy-xj4rq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed this video! Truely the Banshees soul counterpart is the American M16!

  • @upandaljm
    @upandaljm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Banshee was definitely the protagonist of an isekai anime when it was upgraded to the 5S variant. Before that it was a bad joke.

  • @OptimusJedi
    @OptimusJedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Love the Banshee design and art. Now it’s got a great story to go with both. Hero of the Inner Sphere.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hero of Tharkad!... As if there is only one.

  • @androssthered1157
    @androssthered1157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video. Never really cared for the Banshee but loved how it eventually became relevant. Liked the MW5 in the background too.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just had to fill dead air. lol

  • @thegreatbamboozler4837
    @thegreatbamboozler4837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clearly your best review yet

  • @ThugShakers4Christ
    @ThugShakers4Christ ปีที่แล้ว

    Just reminds me of one of my favorite scenes from the novels: "Can't win. Can't lose."

  • @kennetth1389
    @kennetth1389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in the day, when you bought the lead mini, it came with both the regular arm and the PPC arm.
    The manufacturer (ral partha?) knew people would automatically upgrade to the 3S immediately.
    My favorite assault, period.

  • @lemonoeye
    @lemonoeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video about the lore of the Banshee. Thanks for making this! Cant wait for you to make a video about the Atlas!!!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's coming very soon.

  • @adambloom8019
    @adambloom8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely love the Banshee, personally it is my Assault mech of choice, along with the Highlander

  • @dzeclectic2327
    @dzeclectic2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I shared this with my friend who plays a Banshee in MWO. He loved the video.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who doesn't like a heroes story? :)

  • @RobtheStampede
    @RobtheStampede 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ludwig Steiner drives one so you know it does good work.

  • @IRateVideosInTheComments
    @IRateVideosInTheComments 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got an idea, a banshee that actually screeches, it could be used for psychological warfare

  • @michaellaramee1965
    @michaellaramee1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Loved the story behind the mech

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It's one of my favourite videos I've put out honestly :D

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep the 3 and 5 S best assault mech of era

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoying your videos. Very thorough and great overviews:)

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do my best! Thank you George :)

  • @attiladukai2121
    @attiladukai2121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Banshee is the avatar of "Be Careful Who You Call Ugly in Middle School".

  • @starsiegeplayer
    @starsiegeplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The original 3025 design made no sense. There is absolutely no point in having an overcooled mech that has inadequate firepower. It at the very least should have traded two heat sinks for a pair of medium lasers in the side torsos. The design even has hard points there for medium lasers.

    • @sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
      @sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many of the mechs in the TRO books are of poor design
      They started getting better with the 3065 TRO and after.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think 3055 has a lot of amazing designs tbh. 3058 on the other hand....

  • @zilla6280
    @zilla6280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The funniest thing is the star league variant was more or less how I outfitted my own banshee in mw5 using the yaml mod, especially a xl 380 engine. It is kinda terrifying how much an xl engine can do to open up the possibilities of a mech

  • @connorriggs1518
    @connorriggs1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God I love the Banshee it fits my preferred combat style so well

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it's great at smashing clanners.

  • @kyanderson2461
    @kyanderson2461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red i love your channel ! thank you !

  • @copecanring
    @copecanring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't commented on any of your work until now, you sir have made me what to look at mechs I disregarded in the past. Keep up the good work.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Thatoneguy!
      There are lots of hidden gems out there. :)

    • @copecanring
      @copecanring 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigRed40TECH I'm curious about the Hollander if you get a few minutes I'd love to see it or maybe you already have and I missed it

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Hollander is fantastic, but I'll be covering it in 3055's TRO.

    • @copecanring
      @copecanring 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigRed40TECH alright sounds good can't wait.

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid work on this one

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my personal favourite so far.

  • @chancecleavelin4834
    @chancecleavelin4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love this beast. I was given a 3d printed 3e when I first started getting into the hobby, and didn't think much of it. But then I started looking at the 3S and onward, and routinely surprised the hell out of my gaming mates who misidentified it as the weak star league version. I just got my hands on an original 1986 lead model of the Jihad Era version, (6S I think?) and plan on painting it as the personal chariot of my Mercenary commander.

  • @robrib2682
    @robrib2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huh, I never knew the later models of this got so good. It makes me halfway wonder why they had to invent the awesome of all things to fight the clans

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They didn't invent the Awesome to fight the clans. :P

    • @EmperorPylades
      @EmperorPylades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1. The Awesome was 2665, to replace the Striker
      2. Its called the Awesome because it is. 15t of armour, 3 PPCs, 0 Compromise

    • @imasspeons
      @imasspeons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EmperorPylades or 4 PPC if you're driving the 9Q

  • @1337w0n
    @1337w0n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Favorite MW5 mech. A 380 XL makes it a monster in that game, even if you don't give it the obvious endo/DHS/TSM/ and Hardened armor, it's still really good. On top of that, it has a good look and its cockpit has an awesome view.

  • @bobskywalker2707
    @bobskywalker2707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fucking love the Banshee. I love all the Banshees. I only own one (the Command Mech of my 2nd Donegal Guards Company) but I really do want more

  • @kriegjaeger
    @kriegjaeger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!
    You've helped me to appreciate what makes stock mechs so special...
    In theory you could take all of the mechs that exist in the lore, strip them down to a couple of omnimechs and have a similar experience to MWO or Mechwarrior 5 mercs in terms of what you can field. Once you can start fiddling with all the components on a mech, it's no longer the unique thing that it was with each distinct variant bringing something a little different.
    Take for instance the 90KMPH Urbanmech.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's why I ignore custom mechs for the most part. They're always going to be very samey, as people will typically make alterations that are the best for them.

  • @lokken23
    @lokken23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the atlas as my wallpaper sure, but when I want to fuck shit up as soon as I look at them I take a banshee.

  • @gerritvandenbosch4681
    @gerritvandenbosch4681 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Banshee « Charger

  • @justanotherrandomgamer1380
    @justanotherrandomgamer1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Banshee is my favorite assault mech any second favorite mech overall.

  • @Grotonomus
    @Grotonomus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still my most favorite mech, 35 years strong.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just wait until next year when a full, massive video is done for this mech. We're redoing the Banshee for the first week of 2025, to celebrate 3025! :)

  • @adaphion
    @adaphion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other day I made an absolutely disguising Banshee in MW% with YAML. It was the Melee variant. I put a MASC and supercharger in it, plus an extra powerful engine, and it had a battleaxe. So this 95 ton mech would SPRINT at you at 140km and annihilate you with it's axe since it has quirks that give it extra melee damage

  • @BeardedGuy_Tawhid
    @BeardedGuy_Tawhid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just purchased one of these in battletech 3062 from the Steiners for just under 19 million credits.. cost me 4 million to customise it plus another 5 million in parts and weapons.. my next biggest mech is only 55 ton.. I have the special version with gauss cannon and 2 ER PCC with some ER L laser (C)

  • @aristedes9449
    @aristedes9449 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Banshee is the Atlas' psychotic sister.

  • @bezyn2291
    @bezyn2291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Visually I`m a bit torn on Banshee, I love the new redesign, it looks big and dangerous but I am sad that it lost it big shoulder plates from MWO redesign, I always thought they were neat and added some protection to the head of the mech.

  • @biscuithammer00
    @biscuithammer00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you went into the various refits of the Banshee. I love this mech, but I think it gets overlooked because the initial rum sucks.

  • @jeffs.4124
    @jeffs.4124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video on the Banshee.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my personal favourite, maybe tied with the Atlas depending on how I feel. In terms of the video itself, that is.