Gundam: The Origin - A Gateway to Gundam Obsession
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- Do you want to get into Gundam, but have no idea where to start? The new anime Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin - Advent of the Red Comet may be the entry point you've been looking for.
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Gundam is fundamentally the reason why I decided to study to become an engineer.
So did you build your own robot already?
I respect it
How disappointed are you that mecha will never be reality?
I trust in you dude! Deliver the Zaku!
Gunpla dont count 😂
"... and give Dozle Zabi a big hug." Once the BIG HUG is mass produced, we'll crush the Federation!
I still think of Dozle as "that Frankenstein Zabi"
Oh, hey, Big Zam.
If this comment doesn't get a mass of likes, we'll riot.
you win wars with hugs.
tfw there's still no HGUC Big Zam
"Killing his own sons" - That really doesn't seem to be something Degwin could ever do. Even when he knows how frightening Gihren and Kycilia is, he refuses to stop them. He loves his children.
I always assumed Sasero was killed by Kycilia. She offs people the way we eat popcorn and he had just physically harmed her not long before, treating her like absolute garbage. We know she's a sibling killer to begin with from the actual show. Just seems like she had to be the one to do it.
I agree, when you watch the show/OVA, you get the impression that Degwin killed Sasro, but in the manga it gives the impression that Kycilia was the one who did
@@agitatedtofu2511 what? Degwin let his son become space Hitler and never once tried to stop him. Also kycilila doesn't even emote when her brother is killed and instead tells garma to stop crying
you are correct because Kycillia is the one who killed Sasero. Her brother Gihren knew that all along, and told her once.
@@agitatedtofu2511 it's definitely Kycillia, she doesn't give a fuck if Gihren or Dozzle dies let alone her father's this is also the reason why Char rose to infamy aswell
@@yi_hou3092 Ironic thing is: SHE DOES care for the Zabi Family though she definitely is more than willing to kill a problem or two. She loved her father, she obviously cared for Garma and while she and Dozle had their disagreements, it wasn't near as bad as between her and Gihren (who she had been planning to kill a long while, hence her various 'Ace Units' that became essentially Test Pilots for all the good they were doing for the war effort), it's her one good trait that keeps her from being most evil Zabi (though considering the top of THAT list is Literal Space Hitler....)
The best parts of Origin, from someone who saw UC0079 first:
- Seeing how Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon's team came together. This is the one team you see in the original series that are so loyal to not just homeland, but to each other. And it makes them intriguing.
- Seeing more of Dozle Zabi. Dozle and Garma are the only two Zabis that seem to be genuinely likable people. Giving him that case of survivor's guilt was brilliant.
- Paying attention to source material rather than retconning. A few things are retconned, but in very minor passable ways that service the story better. But I can't think of any character in Origin that does something blatantly out of character for their time in 0079.
Dozle also goes out in a way that is semi honorable as well. Hes protecting his men and his kids so giving him a survivors guilt storyline, explains his most memorable decisiom
Few things are retconned? Bro, the personality of a bunch of characthers is retconned, Amuro was a spoiled kid in the original that confronted everyone as if he was always right, in Origin he is a moron disconnected from his reality because he is looking at his dad computer, Kai in MSG is a coward that hides his fears in sarcasm and "I don't care", in Origin he is a deliquent that steals a construction machine to invade a military base (?), Garma in the ending of Origin has zero of the confidence he displays in MSG, in the academy I thought was good because was demonstrating how much he grow because Char's influence, but no apparently, he just is a coward. Also everyone, and I mean EVERYONE (except Char for obvious Gary Stu reasons), is a shouting lunatic in perfectly silent rooms in any situation, is irritating when the team of animators think that the only way to add tension to a conversation is making everyone shout constantly like buffoons.
Also retconning the mobile suits development of the federation for that early just misses the point of the original that they are losing a war because they didn't see potential in MS, in Origin they are just idiots that made a crappy MS that a tiny principality with limited resources could surpass easily.
I don't tink all the retcons are bad but is far from a good prequel to MSG, is a completely diferent take on the story, it doesn't add context, it changes the context.
I watched origins first and demn seeing all those characters having a roll and "origin" is fucking legendary to see 0079
Nothing but respect for ya girl holding you at gunpoint lol
you mean GUNDAMpoint :D
You mean at beam rifle point.
she's doing god's work
@@HaloFTW55 It's not a beam rifle... and honestly that's the funniest part. The gendum fan costume is really rounded up by that splattershot.
@@ExeloMinish It's a beam spray gun used by the GMs.
"Char Aznable did nothing wrong"
- waifu material
But he really didn't.
Casval and Griffith did nothing wrong
@@martialarts4095 Ah, I see you're a sociopath as well
Rau Lecruse did nothing wrong!
He did nothing wrong till he tried to drop Axis
-"While he's not a character you can easily like or root for"
Last I checked, Char was the most popular character in all of Gundam.
You can appreciate a charachter without rooting for him
Interestingly, a multi country survey showed orga itsuka is the most popular character
Sociopath or no, The Origin makes it surprisingly easy to empathize with him. He was old enough to understand that his father was assassinated, and he's cultivated that rage well, despite how many people have tried to screw him over.
He's pretty much the sephiroth of gundam... or would sephiroth be the char's of final fantasy?
@@BigaloMax depends on which came first under that logic
Why you should watch Mobile Suit Gundam in 2 words:
Gallant Char
*trumpets can be heard from somewhere*
Or "Here comes Char"
3 times faster.
better reason: fat char
From Sleep
Also, ALSO.
It's left ambiguous whether or not Degwin actually assassinated Zeon Zum Deikun, at least in the origin version. At least, that's the impression I got.
But it was definitely Kycillia who assassinated Sasro.
I'm under the impression that Degwin ordered it to happen. So, close enough
@@popburnsy3207 IIRC in the magna, it's inferred that Kycilla did it because Sasro slapped and insulted her. There's a few panels of Kycilla smirking after Sasro left the room.
What I also like with The Origin is how Zeon was shown to be nothing like what people tended to assume initially - a benevolent, philosophical visionary whom was unjustly assassinated and had his lofty vision co-opted by a fascist, extremist, family for their own gain.
Instead, Zeon is shown to be not that far off from the Zabi family. If anything, the Zabi family's actions are all but the next logical step to Zeon's own extremism; going from simply spouting speech and ideas to military action in order to carry out those ideas.
@@HalfDemonInuyasha
Yes, it's definitely an interesting take.
I almost want to infer he actually DID have a heart attack rather than assassination. It'd make things all that much more tragic.
I'm with you Mahbu. Degwin gives the image and impression of an ugly bastard and evil schemer. BUT, only the impression though, because every single dialogue spoken by that character after his friend Zeon's death, is of a caring person to his family and subordinates. I even believe he was telling the truth to Admiral Revil, in that he wanted to end the war for real, without more bloodshed. The real Son of Bitch and most likely Zeon's murderer here, was Gihren. And Kycilia to a lesser degree.
The UC is one of the most important anime continuities ever produced. More people should be watching old school Gundam.
I second this.
Its the Master Race after all.
I tried watching 0079, but I couldn't get past the "Amuro! Amuro! Amuro!"
I want to. I have watched probably all the Alternate time line gundams. But for UC. I only watched Unicorn.
Do you have any recommendations on how to begin the UC line.
Because UC time line os the only thing i have yet to understand.
Watch the original 0079, Zeta, and Char's Counterattack. You can skip ZZ and other side story stuff though it's recommended by many such as 8th MS team and War in the Pocket.
I’d actually argue that watching the original Gundam movies then The Origin would be a better way to go. That way, you’re introduced to the world and the main conflict. The Origin has a lot of references and nods to the original series that is definitely lost to new comers.
Side note, I think Gundam 00 is a great gateway into Gundam fandom in my opinion
00 is a terrible way to get into Gundam
00 is perfect, actually. My ex wife got into Gundam after I coerced her into watching 00. She quickly gobbled up every series she could find after.
@@CMTechnica 00 was the only reason I got into gundam.
Saw a poster for 00 at an anime convention around the time it was airing, and that got me hooked.
@@CMTechnica Why? I'm curious
Origin is, while not completely canon to the main timeline, provides a lot of context and ideas that can be considered helpful (and canon) to the main timeline. Events such as the civil unrest in Zum City after Daikum's death, development of Mobile Suits, the area somewhere in South America called Jaburo, Revil getting captured by the Black 3 Stars and then escaping to make his speech, Ramba Ral's and Hamon Crowley's relationship, and most importantly Char's journey to become an Ace pilot that will eventually go to Side 7 to destroy the Gundam. Not to mention that Amuro's attitude by the start of the original series is briefly explained in Origin, him being mostly by himself while his father is always away at work and eventually discovering what his father is working with right before the attack on Side 7 happened. Take note that the Origin OVA fits within the Origin manga, a re-telling of the original series. It's different from the original series/movie trilogy, but the overall ideas are the same (improved even in most cases).
I actually really liked the fights in the original Mobile Suit Gundam. The limited animation made the mechs actually feel like they're in space, being piloted by humans who only have a couple years experience.
I would say that there is good fights in the original series, but most of the fights were kinda lame.
Degwin would never harm his own children. Sasro's assassination was entirely on Kycillia after Sasro hit her because she is a spiteful monster. Degwin is just sly enough to use it to his own ends, but he's a family first kind of person. Complicit bastard, but blood is blood to him, to the point where he wouldn't even raise a hand against Gihren even after calling his son a wannabe Hitler.
Personal favourite Gundam series is a tie between War in the Pocket and the Thunderbolt: December Sky. Bandit Flower is decent but December Sky is tied with War in the Pocket as both of them come at the War Sucks theme from entirely different angles. War in the Pocket is about how good people and children are affected by war, choosing to do what is right even when it is hopeless. Thunderbolt is about how war is so all consuming that it can utterly destroy a person and leave them a broken shell.
This show got me hooked into Gundam, and to think prior to this show, I really had no idea where to start, after watching this I started watching the original 1979 anime and I gotta say, Gundam is AMAZING! Its branding makes you think it's all about mechas battling it out, but to the core of the show is really about the politics of war and the relationship among its main characters during times of war. The plot is handled with great care and is very sophisticated that it is really are catered to a mature audience. Gundam is definitely not for kids, but it wouldn't hurt for kids to give the show a try. Now I know why Gundam is a legend that deserves its place among the Mt Rushmore of Anime.
The good thing about getting into Gundam with Seed as a fifth grader is that I had no where to go but up as my tastes developed and my interest grew.
Zeta and Turn A are my favorites, but I'm also fond of ZZ and X.
I honestly dont think seed is that bad. It falls in the meh category of gundam
@@anenemystand5582 I've since revisited Seed, and yeah I think it's pretty harmless all things considered.
@@Erk1234567 It's essentially a remake of the original gundam that deviates towards the conclusion. I honestly had some fun seeing how they reinterpreted some classic archetypes and moments tho I can't call myself a fan
@@anenemystand5582 I've watched Seed like 4 times, both for nostalgia and for actually watching it critically. I think it has a lot going for it that no one wants to admit, but it DOES get dragged down by melodrama. Despite that, I still think it's a fun show
ZZ and first season of SEED are my favourites, for different reasons. I really HATED (and enjoyed) the way SEED forces it's characters into such awful situations, making childhood friends fight etc. I loved ZZ for it's use of the kids from "the wrong side of the tracks" as a departure from Amuro "my dad built this thing" Ray. And the dialogue this lead to, especially regarding the "guy" with the flower.
YES PLEASE encourage people to get into UC gundam THANK YOUUUUUU
I agree with this. Universal Century is high art.
Yeah but saying start with origin your just asking people to not continie
@@hibiki8473 How?
@@comradefreedom8275 because origin is a bad starting point. A lot of it honestly makes no sense without seeing the orriginal.
@@hibiki8473 I've been showing it to some friends before showing them the original, and they're understanding it just fine.
As someone who got into Gundam recently, I'd recommend the movie trilogy of the original series, THEN Origin.
It makes Origin so much better and less confusing. And the dramatic irony being set up is amazing.
Overall, Origin on its own = good anime
Origin after seeing the films = AMAZING anime
SAME HERE
I recommend the original show over the movies.
@@thevenom2731Same. The pacing of the movies is too fast and you lose tons of character moments. Ryu is barely a character in the movies. In the show he's integral
Finally dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Universal Century, eh, Geoff? Good.
You needed it. :P
My first Universal Century experience was The 8th MS Team. Such a great series.
Same for me. Stardust Memory was pretty good too, but I got my start with Gundam Wing and Gundam X. I watched Seed and Seed Destiny in highschool, but those two are pretty cookie-cutter.
i just started it yesterday and im already liking it
The first uc gundam i ever watched was thunderbolt, its pretty good
my first gundam series was 00. got me into the franchise
And it's actually one of the weaker one's too.
@Peter Bergania Its writing is dumb and its art hasn't age to well , but it has fun performances and it's directed competently.
I just started with Build Fighters and branched out from there.
Gavin Erickson Only the second season
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 What? The writing is dumb in both seasons.
"Boruto's dad's boyfriend's girlfriend" just earned you a subscription.
Ditto
Girlfriend name again?
To be fair, the guy in the cowboy hat was a spy sent by Kcyillia to watch them, so his quest to kill the Zabi family wasn't totally unwarranted since they knew where he lived and would have hunted him regardless of whether he stayed on the colony.
It's always fun to see one of my youtubers post about Gundam!
Zeta Gundam is my favorite in the series.
If you don’t want to watch origin check out Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt
M16A1 yessss
Such a good series, it actually feels like a real war in space. The main characters are amazing. Fricking Unicorn is overrated super magic mech stuff, but I like all the suits outside of the unicorn itself. G gundam is amazing too.
*FREE STYLE JAZZ MURDER MUSIC INTENSIFIES*
Just finished origin which is cool but I need more what do u suggest next?
@@tarfariclark7130 ms 8th team, thunderbolt 1 & 2 war in the pocket startdust memory, gundam Z, Zz ,char's counter attack, unicorn that's pretty much is chronological order in some sort
G Gundam is the best for fun. 8th MS Team is the best for feeling like the real robot story is real
And Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket is best for crying your heart out.
G Gundam also still had likeable characters and a decent overall plot with some nice twists.
08th MS Team is the true anti-SEED / SEED Destiny in terms of the whole, "We shouldn't be fighting!", schtick, which makes me appreciate it more.
I (like MB) ) was a bit too young when Gundam Wing was on, but boy did I love G Gundam on Toonami. I still occasionally yell out burning finger lol
My favourite Gundam series is Iron Blooded Orphans. And I say this as someone who loves the original Mobile Suit Gundam.
@@ryansmith8 IBO is more like "What if White Base crew were loose againts Zeon and Feds HQ doesn't Help you at all"
The unicorn series is what brought me into the Gundam franchise and made me a huge fan. I loved the fights, but I made zero sense on who was who and what were what and who the good guys were. Then I watched the Origin when it aired on Toonami and it finally cleared everything up and properly educated me on the UC timeline. For anyone wishing to start getting into UC, especially any of the One year war shows. the Origin is a MUST.
Idk why but I started with Gundam thunderbolt then I watched Unicorn right away and understood everything even with TB not being canon
I started with Hathaway and Unicorn.
After watching CCA a few months later, I finally understood a bit more from Hathaway's story.
@@matthewphilip2609 Thunderbolt is limbo. It's in a state of canonity, parallel but connected but not canon all at the same time.
08th MS Team is probably my favorite Gundam series, followed by 0083 Stardust Memory, then G Gundam because that series is just so much fun
Favorite Gundams personally would be X,0083 and Zeta. Fav non Gundam mech series would be Armored Trooper Votoms, such an underrated show/franchise.
Votoms is absolutely fantastic. Highest recommendation from me.
Glad X is getting some love, 08th MS Team was a nice slice devoid of Newtypes and 0080 had some great designs but X really wrapped up the UC nicely.
@@Blodhelm But... "After War Gundam X" isn't set in UC Timeline... It's in its own "After War" timeline. Unless you think of Crossbone Gundam.
I'm such a weeb. Wing zero and Exia
@@AmigoRoberto 00 Gundam was great glad there's going to be a season3 tobad the movie ruined it
You should just watch mecha anime in general
Pat labor is pretty good, too. Has a lot of the same anti-war messages like Gundam.
@@Head_Turnah i assume u mean the movies (which i must get around to watching), but what ive seen from the ovas and tv show especially, i really like it
okan Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, the anime that ATTACKED ON TITAN before it was popular. 😝😝😝😝😝
But seriously I’m not kidding. So many coincidences and parallels.
@Amfram Sunrise definetly has the largest library of mecha anime compared to any other studio, a side from Franxx i do feel Trigger's been pretty consistent and i hope for more in the future.
Patlabor is great, the entire series in one blu-ray package too
Origin turned me into a Char Apologist. Also, the dub was on Hulu and Prime for a while. It may still be there. I watched Origin on Hulu with 8th Mobile Suit Team.
I went through the first three OVAs over the last two days, all dubbed in English, and definitely enjoyed the performances there in. But Chris Niosi’s Garma Zabi absolutely steals the entire dub for me; he is HBO Original Series-level effective in the role.
Gundam 00 is also a really good stand alone Gundam series and is also on crunchyroll and has two seasons followed by a movie, and will be getting a sequel series soon!
It's good if you don't watch that movie. God, that movie is awful.
It's getting a sequel season? Nice
The only Gundam OO sequel i heard of was stage show for it's 10th anniversary.
Thank you for this. Need younger voices like yours recommending the UC
I love wing and seed due to just growing up with them, IBO is my personal favorite
Seeing Char in action in that beautiful opening sequence was the greatest thrill ride I’ve had watching a piece of media.
Thank you so much for this video, Geoff. I was waiting for someone to discuss Gundam: The Origin at length. I am absolutely blown away by the show, not only for it's writing and characters, but the memorable action and gorgeous CGI. This video will help more people see it.
08th MS team for its realness and love story, and 0083 for its craziness and love story. Gotta love a good love story 😍
Gundam fans cringed every time he says "Robots" instead of "Mobile Suits".
I just got into Gundam and the models recently but I’d like to say your Channel is fantastic and this video was my introduction to it and I love it already.
What really got me into the gundam series was actually Gunpla. I love building the model kits is so fun and I bled into the anime, specifically Iron-Blooded orphans
Those are my first gunplas too. Cheap and overall good products
This is such an amazing well done video...Thanks for posting and ill be sharing with friends who might be interested in getting into gundam
Great video, I like you doing this style. Gundam Origin was a great experience to watch. I started watching with Wing and never watched the original series untill after I watched this.
It should be noted, I feel, that origin is kinda a retcon/alternative telling of the events leading up to the one war. My understanding is it changes key elements.
The Origin manga is sorta a retcon of the OYW and some people say it should be considered a separate timeline rather than canon.
Yeah, it's basically a slightly alternate universe to the anime/films.
Same with Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt.
@@Giving50prcnt I believe so.
The federation having anything like mobile suits before the Gundam is definitely not part of the original canon.
There was no Pre gundam "early" gun tank or "early" gun canon.
And as far as I'm aware Sasro is an original character to Origin.
@@Mahbu Aye, the Feddies mostly had Type-61 tanks and aircraft like Saberfish before "Project V" in the original. That was why the Gundam, Guncannon and Guntank, and their data, were so vital. Although technically the Guntank was the first of the three prototypes, it wasn't deployed anywhere until White Base, let alone mass-produced and distributed across several colonies. Even the ground combat Gundams from 08th MS Team were made with spare parts from Project V, well into the war.
Lends credence to the alternate universe theory.
@@Blodhelm I could understand the Gun Tank Early Model but the Gun Cannon Early model seemed bizarre, though not as bizarre as them being completely incapable of keeping up with the Zaku I.
This one was so fire, couldn’t stop watching it and just wanted more. The animation style and everything was so good
Please do more Gundam content! As a Gundam fan I really appreciated when folks keep spreading this series!
The first Gundam Origin OVA is LEGITIMATELY one of my favourite pieces of anime ever conceived. As a Gundam fan it does justice to every single character from the original series and what made it great. Its political aspects and elaborate betrayals. And Dozle is STILL the best Zabi and so pure.
The weirdest part though, is no one acknowledges Char's existence for the first 25 minutes.
Anyway, best Gundam because it has all the best aspects of Gundam and the only series without a Romeo and Juliet complex.
Just curious, what were your thoughts on Iron Blooded Orphans?
I would love to see a video on that
yeeeeeeeeeeaaaa boiiiiiii tekkadan mann. barbatos's design was awesomee
@CommandoDude I'd say S1 was mediocre and S2 was better but not amazing looking at it from a story and character point of view. It's fun to watch but the plot and characters fall pretty flat. Also the info dumping in S1 that occurred pretty much every other episode and character motivations that seemed good until the next episode when they went back on things was kind of annoying, but Mari Okada did pen the show and sadly her works tend to have this issue specifically of being a little inconsistent and just an info dump show because apparently no one's smart enough to pay attention.
IBO’s setting is way more interesting than the actual story. Also the ending was a meme.
@@jholt8518 "The ending was a meme"
At this point in our lives, everything can be meme-fied in this golden age of social media. There's even memes for masterpieces like Citizen Kane. Thus, memes do not speak for quality. It can't really be used as an argument.
FINALLY! So beautiful watching my beloved Mecha franchise bloom from obscurity to booming with more new fans every year. ❤
Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed Origin and I'm glad for any spotlight it receives!
i watched this and i loved it, because of this video. thanks Mother's Basement.
I recently watched this in a series of lockdown 'dates' with a guy who loves Gundam. Kind of a watching anime each other likes kinda thing. He seemed amazed and happy when I was on Casval's side and I really don't get why 'Char did nothing wrong' is such a big deal, he literally didn't.
Gundam 00 is timeless, thank you Arcada
I'm a big fan of 0083 stardust memory and the 08th MS team. Unicorn is also amazing and beautiful.
My brother and I binged the entire UC last summer, and loved every minute of it. He wasn't really a Gundam fan going in, and I've been a Gundam fan since childhood, so we had two very different views going into the adventure. Needless to say, he loved it and even took up model kit building with me.
I still think the original
Gundam is one of the best pieces of pop culture media Japan has ever produced,
and is a major, if not the major reason, Japanese pop culture is a major player
in the world today. It was one of the first original anime to gain a large
adult following. Countless creators were inspired to become creators by it.
Countless people became engineers due to Gundam.
Even to this day the story holds up wonderfully.
There are so many themes touched upon and explored in sensible and realistic
manner. Its characters to this day are iconic and Char is an absolute legend of
a character. Even in a head-to-head comparision between Star Wars and Gundam
Star Wars comes off as hopelessly simplistic and juvenile.
Gundam shows scenes like competency not
immediately translating into leadership ability with Mirai struggling to take
over for Bright. Gundam shows what it feels like to become estranged from your
parents due to growing up in completely different circumstances. It has
interesting and unexpected character development like Amuro estranging himself
from Fraw Bow due to his rising esteem and responsibilites. It has a tragic and
interesting Romance in Lalah and Char. Kai and Miharu's story were excellently
directed.
Yeah, everybody knows that the original Gundam was
not the first serious anime or the first one with mature themes, but it
executed so many different ones so wonderfully, with good art, good direction,
iconic voice acting, iconic art.
To this day I still think Gundam is hopelessly
underrated in the West and it's insane to see that for a long time even some of
the mediocre OVAs like Stardust Memory were more popular here
Thank you thank you thank you for sharing the awesomeness that is Universal Century with the masses
I first got into Gundam after I received a Full Armor Gundam Ver. Ka model kit from my grandmother for Christmas. I just had to know where this badass suit came from and ever since then I got hooked!
@3:50 char with a sword, char with a basketball, char with a zaku... evey reason hes my favorite character
Last time I checked, Master Asia did nothing wrong.
His goal was admirable and worth supporting. It was just the path he took to try to get there that was misguided.
My finger is shining
MASTER ASIA WAS LEGIT RIGHT
Char also had the same motivation in Counterattack...
hey sunrise
can you remake the original series origin style?
please?
no?
ok...
Which would mean adapting The Origin manga in its entirety, since the Char backstory part is a relatively small chunk of the manga. Only about one volume or so.
Honestly we need that, not an entire rewrite(but do extend the end to the original 50 episodes not the shitty 43) just an update to audio and visuals.
Yeah. Do a movie trilogy just like the original wil the origins retelling of the story. 2 hours long each movie and it can be done easily, especially considering that the origin's pacing is much closer to the movie trilogy than to that of the full series.
@@JackgarPrime 3
@@JackgarPrime we don't need that anyway....
I love the use of United Forces as the background track! Whenever that plays in Build Fighters you know the scene is going to be awesome!
About time you showed gundam some love
Origins is very good for the UC timeline as the UC timeline shows are decentralized and generally use the One Year War as a backdrop. Origins help set the stage which lets you explore the other series if you don't wanna watch the OG series. OVAs and miniseries like 8th MS team and War in the Pocket all become better once you learn the reason for the war. It also feeds into the message of war being bad, as the numerous character dramas and sacrifices are ultimately all caused by the tragedy of the death of Zeon, which Origins actually leaves ambiguous as to whether or not Degwin murdered him, if the official story that Earth Fed actually murdered him, or if he just suffered a badly timed heart attack and the Zabis only used it to further their own ends.
I prefer some things being vague, better to speculate sometimes
Don't you give me that Char did nothing wrong nonsense!
He did quite a bit wrong!
But he's never betrayed anyone in his life!
Quattro did nothing wrong.
He was a good boi. Never even hurt a fly😢😢😢
Char definitely did nothing wrong. It was obviously the misfortune of their birth's fault.
I tried to get into the original Gundam series at one point like 5/6 years ago, but this video has convinced me to give it another shot. Char strikes me as a fascinating villain, now having seen this and I'm eager to check it all out.
This is such a great series! The stortelling is great .. Getting to know the main characters of the original 1979 series was spot on in my opinion. I watched it 3 times and found this series almost fresh and new each time. This is such a well put together prequel. I just love it!
Gundam 00 is the show that hooked me into the gundam franchise. I highly recommend watching it if you want to get into gundam. It has a great story, gerat fight and some badass robot designs.
GUNDAM 08TH MS TEAM AND GUNDAM 083 STARDUST MEMORY ARE THE TWO BEST SIDE STORES EVER. LETS BATTLE.
Gundam 0080
Thunderbolt is better
Iron Blooded Orphans was just simply amazing..I hope they do a continuation on those charaters
Good to see such a glowing recommendation of The Origin, and while I would have liked to watch it blind, it's good to know it actually takes the focus off of the mecha and more on the characters, which is very smart IMO.
I've been a Gundam fan for a few years, but my path was a bit of a long one...
-First, I bought and put together a crappy Wing Gundam gunpla during the time when they were just hitting the US.
-Then, I watched a bunch of SD Gundam.
-Then sometime later, my friends streamed G Gundam, Gundam 00 (favorite series btw), and Gundam Wing.
-Next, I found out that SD Gundam Overworld got an english patch, so I downloaded and played through that. Same with Genesis (my first imported game).
-Around the time Build Divers was making the rounds, I saw some Gunpla vids and got back into building those. And to my surprise, one of my friends got curious about IBO and we watched it together, as well as the other Gundam Build series.
-And the first half of this year was spent watching the main UC saga: '79, Stardust Memories, 08th MS Team, Zeta, ZZ, and finally Char's Counterattack (which I was surprisingly disappointed by).
Looking forward to SD Gundam Cross Rays and the Hathaway's Flash movies!
As a super-fangirl of Gundam, I say this pretty well made. I definitely agree. Origin sets you up way better than Unicorn.
Wing & G Gundam are my favourite ones so far since 1: I grew up with them and 2:they brought a unique approach to the franchise that I haven't seen in years, not just to Gundam but to other stuff as well.
G gundam will always be special to me. It was my first series and to me, as a kid, it was like DragonBall z with gundams so it was awesome. I've since watched IBO, unicorn, 00, 08th ms team and have really enjoyed these different gundam series.
This was my first Gundam show because of your video. At least UC. Because of you I went and finished Iron Blooded Orphans by getting to season 2. I'm about to start Z Gundam . Needless to say this is one of my favorite series I've ever seen
My first Gundam was 00, and it got me into the franchise. Dropped it on season 2 though and moved on to Wing.
I don't know where this meme that "the Gundam timeline is difficult" came from, but it's not true at all. It's real simple. Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta Gundam, ZZ Gundam, Char's Counterattack. Easy.
That's a tough call which one is the best. I can give my favorites: 0080, 0083, G Gundam, ZZ Gundam.
Yamcha Kippur throw in stardust memory before zeta just to get the story you got it complete lol
0080 huh.
One word.
Hamburger
@@francesfuego6950 It's better to watch Zeta before 0083. That way, when you see Bask Om in 0083, you know he's going to be a dick.
*Liking ZZ*
Ah I see you're also a man of culture.
you forgot the real reason why this meme was created: f91 and V gundam
Gundamn, a new video!
One thing to note is that origin is considered ALT UC, the manga (and by extension the OVA) is a re imagining of the original gundam show, events take place in different orders (for instance Jaburo is attacked before operation Odessa, where in the original show it was the other way round), There are new characters and some old characters are removed and some meet different fates (for instance Mquve in the gyan with the Gouf Troop at Oddessa rather than fighting in the texas colony), the development of Zeon's MS is also different in the origin timeline compared to Cannon UC ,in the original timeline Zeon was already the principality as well as already having mobile suits in mass production several years prior to the one year war starting with the Zaku I A early type which they used to support the insurrection on side 6 (which is why side 6 is autonomous and independent to the federation in the original show but once zeon starts losing the war they allow federation troops to be stationed on their colonies - war in the pocket) with the Zaku II A entering service in 0078 with the C type being the principalities main MS at the start of hostilities (the A through C were equipped with lead shielding as all bazooka armed zaku's carried tactical nuclear warheads for use against colonies and warships). To sum it up the origin is not cannon as it contradicts the original show/timeline (how it usually goes is a UC manga is typically considered cannon if it does not contradict anything from one of the Anime's so typically Anime (gundam 0079, zeta, double zeta etc) > OVA (war in the pocket, Stardust memories etc.) > Movies (char's counter attack) > Manga (Gundam the origin, Gundam Legacy, Moon gundam, Char's deleted affair etc and the various Mobile suit variation manga) > Games
its 2023 and still great review. keep em coming bro
My favorite to this date is still 00 Gundam and it's what I recommend to anyone wanting to get into the series. It's a great standalone series with many of the same plot structures and messages as the UC series.
It's weird how I know Gundam from the spinoff SD Gundam
Everone has to start somewhere
I’m halfway through this series at the moment and had no prior knowledge on anything gundam related at all (apart from looking up the chronological watch order). I can already say I love it and can’t wait too check out even more!
Im watching IBO now and the Gunpoint scene is KILLING ME!!!!!
Love you Mothers Basement!
You: Gundam Wing
Me, an intellectual: Mobile Suit Gundam
I love Gundam: The Origin so much!
I just decided to try Gundam again thanks to this video. Just finished Iron Blooded Orphans and from this and comments going to explore the standalone stories. Easier then getting overwhelmed with content
Just think of the original 80s anime as six seasons and a movie. It makes it more digestible. It around the same length as OG Naruto part 1 without the filler. That still might be too long, but I hope it helps.
Gundam Wing was my intro to the franchise, G-Gundam was a fun guilty pleasure, 08th MS-Team is a favorite my dad and I share, and Endless Waltz has the Gundam models we love most from the entire franchise. I’ll give this series a go for the sake of seeing something good.
While I really really enjoyed Origin by watching it immediately after 0079, my opinion is the more people who can check it out in any form, the better! Thank you for this video.
now I need that every-char-is-here shirt and the plush zaku head. immediately. where to cop
Mobile suit Gundam: war in the pocket is my favorite.
08th Ms team is the close second.
The characters in those two shorter series are just amazing.
I enjoyed both IBO and SEED. SEED and WING were both my first interactions with the Gundam series back before I really, truly, had the mental capacity to follow their stories and all I remembered about them was thinking "holy heck, this is cool" before I'd look around to make sure my parents weren't watching because as a six year old child, I could tell it was something that I normally wouldn't be watching if they were there. Years later, I caught up with the series by binging through IBO and then after being thoroughly upset that there wasn't more to fill the void in my chest, got onto Hulu and found that Wing was on there. Shortly after having sat through two Gundam series, I felt that my itch had been scratched but decided to double down and watch through all of Seed before adding every other Gundam series to my extensive backlog that I will one day whip out when my itch for it arises again.
I've always been in love with the design of Gundams but never knew where to start/what to avoid so this is greatly appreciated
I'd also recommend 08th MS Team and Gundam 0083 for some great designs, stories and a continuation of things after Origins.
I read the Origin in the hardback manga, and it blew me away, I can only imagine what seeing it animated will be like. I prefer the original Mobile Suit Gundam, warts and all, though I think Zeta is more focused as a series. Outside the UC' I'm a OO guy, it's damn near perfect.
If you don't want to watch the original anime and you don't mind reading, I recommend reading the original Gundam the Origin manga, it integrates both the original story and the prequel story for Char and Sayla seamlessly.
You should totally do a video about timelessness in this day and age. After watching a video by cosmonaut variety, it has got me thinking about what does it mean to be timeless. It would be really interesting to see how you handle it.
I really liked 08th MS Team back in the day. I appreciated how it dealt more with the "grunts" of warfare aspect as opposed to the top leaders of each side.
Wing is my trash but from the UC, I gotta give shout outs to the 08th MS team.
Mad respect to your girl btw. My husband would approve
Ok. To anyone who hears shit about ZZ and want to skip it, let me try to talk you out of it. The biggest flaws on ZZ are having to follow Zeta and a way too light hearted start. I'd recommend watching Stardust Memories after Zeta, then watch ZZ.
Tomino was going through severe depression at the end of Zeta, hence the bleak ending.
ZZ the producers told him to dial it back a bit. The second half of ZZ is actually some of the best Gundam ever, just so hard to get into.
I would say it’s also one of its biggest strengths. The goodwill of Zeta made me push through the first few episodes.
Oo, that makes me hyped for ZZ because the bleakness of Zeta can be a real turn off for me sometimes
I got to see one of the Gundam Thunderbolt compilation movies get screened at AnimeNYC in 2017 and that got me interested. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get myself to watch anything besides scenes from Iron Blooded Orphans and reading the wiki about the Universal Century timeline
As a fan of the UC Gundam, I'm telling people: do not start with The Origin. It misrepresents both the universe and the personality of a few of its core characters. It's like trying to get into Star Trek by watching the 2009 movie and then going to the original series.
Definitely agree here. My dad likes his fair share of anime, but showing him The Origin first before OG Gundam only gave him the impression that almost everyone was an irredeemable asshole. Not exactly the best way to get into a franchise...
@@BrotherWalrus well if you look deep into nearly most characters... they actually are really big asshole
I disagree, I've tried watching the og gundam before and just couldn't get into it. But after reading origin and reading origin manga it's made me wanna try watching it again. And origin is great bc it also digs more into the characters more. Idk i like the drama and more detailed information in origin.
Agree 100% dozle zabi is the perfect example of how the characters are all parodies of their original depictions.
@@CEO0FMILFS There's a problem in the details Origin depicts, born out of fanservice and rule of cool. The original show worked hard to present complex themes while struggling with the fact that it was meant to be an ad for toys. Origin is just the toy ad.
It's a fun show, I enjoyed the movies quite a bit.
If you want to go back to the original, all the better. But if you think it's the "real" story you're missing out on what the original show was presenting.
I usually recommend starting with the compilation movies, as a compromise.
That or War in the Pocket.
Build Fighters is hands down my favorite series, I just can't lie about it. So much fun and such a cool idea on the hobby, having built a few Gunpla myself, it's awesome. Otherwise I find Gundam 00 a fantastic stand-alone jump on point for the series in true
I always suggest 00 first. It has everything the other shows have, but is streamlined and has modern animation.