Episode 1 of 0079 is one of the best vertical slices of a show I've ever seen. It's simply incredible what they were capable of conveying in a single episode. I re-watch this episode pretty consistently and every time I notice something new, or see a line of dialogue in a different light. I wish more modern shows were willing to take their time and put as much consideration into their storytelling as granddaddy gundam did.
Longtime Gundam fan here. As far as I'm concerned, 0079 remains one of very few entries in the series to actually stand up to times' test. It deserves a spot right next to the OG Star Trek, Babylon 5, and the original Star Wars films as some of the best sci fi to ever be produced.
I know. This anime came out around the time when my dad was a kid. Growing up he loved Star Trek TOS and showed me it when I was young. After watching MSG I kind of wish he saw it when he was a kid because he would’ve loved it forsure
Strongly prefer 1979 Gundam to Zeta, making my way through ZZ right now. I just think Zeta is so self serious and bleak with fewer compelling characters than what 1979 had
I'm surprised you enjoyed it so much, I generally prefer the film trilogy as it smooths out some of the series problems without sacrificing the story too much (something film trilogies for future series fail miserably at, stay away from Zeta's A New Translation if you value your sanity) and the third film is entirely new animation and looks quite good. You're not wrong about the Lalah romance with Amuro being rushed, the series was supposed to be 50 episodes long but was cancelled, Tomini had to fight to get a few extra episodes to finish the story. One thing I really like about 0079's story that I've yet to see any other Gundam series replicate is that the protagonist and their ship have very little to do with the overall events of the war, they're involved but not the driving force. The show goes out of it's way to point out how Zeon wildly overvalues the White Base and so it's used as a decoy, you could remove the White Base's entire journey Zeon would still lose the war. I hope you give Zeta the same treatment, for me it's the best Gundam series story wise.
Of course! I’m hoping I can plan this Zeta video’s work a little better than this one and obviously make it even better than this video. And when it comes to this vs the trilogy, I plan on showing my co host Taylor just the movie trilogy will. He’s not into Gundam like I am so I think it will be a better investment for someone like him. And yeah I noticed that with the white base, it’s cool how Gundam feels like a grander story is happening in the bg but they’re willing to focus in on this one specific story of the war
Edit: Amaro does see what the soldiers do in episode 8 he even says that he wise they hadn’t seen him but luckily they survived One of my favorite set of scenes in the show are the first scenes with Degwin Zabi because we have seen the awful shit the Zeon has done so we expect this evil monster but the first scene we see of him is him as a grieving father stunned and saddening by Garma’s death the first thing he does when the rest of the family gets there is to take a moment to just grieve he wants a small personal funeral but does a state funeral at the pushing of Gerhin and Kycilla the next scene we see him listening to Garma’s last message, where we see the Garma’s despite being a spoiled brat did want to earn his station and make his family proud, and it shows how that beside Gerhin aka Hilter 2.0 ( Dewgin literally compares him to hitler later on) and Kycilla aka Ms. Backstab even the people at the chore of Zeon has some good to them
Great video run down, memories flooding back when I originally watched it off Toonami, you covered it all very well and have great editing. Bright is my favorite character , but lately I love Garma, and without spoilers, just wanted his sister's approval.
Regarding the comparison between Gundam and Evangelion, it actually seems like the inspiration for Evangelion was another Tomino show titled Space Runaway Ideon as well as the book by Arthur C Clarke, Childhoods End.
@@jumpreport From what I hear, the TV series had some neat ideas for the time but suffered from being overly formulaic in many respects. It seems to have been perfectly watchable, just being nothing special. The movie, Be Invoked, on the other hand which provides the finale for the show (similar to how End of Evangelion did for it's TV series given both suffered from cuts near the end) is generally regarded as one of Tomino's best work. While there is a compilation movie of the TV series, I don't recommend it as it leaves out a lot of information that you would need to understand Be Invoked. It is interesting though as even though Ideon is a super robot show through and through, you can really tell that some of the Gundam real robot DNA is there. it also goes for a more space opera feel as compared to others in the same genre.
Evangelion is a confusing series that stems from a creator who could not accept the realities of life, resulting in the most disturbing content I have ever watched. Love shinji, but I fucking hate evangalion.
15:30 It’s worse than that… They were hit by one of the wire-guided rockets the Earth federation forces were using against the Zakus, which means Amuro just saw those soldiers get killed by friendly fire.
No doubt, one of the most unique series I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s hard to imagine that the anime, even after being canceled, managed to become such a major franchise. Despite a rocky start, poor toy sales from Clover (one of the worst toy companies), and a limited initial release, it still stood alongside Star Wars and Star Trek as an iconic sci-fi and war-themed franchise. About my favorite characters: Jose, one of the original White Base soldiers, saved Amuro with nothing but a Core Fighter. Job John... just hearing his name makes you start liking him. Kai begins as someone ignorant, who cares about no one but himself, but by the end of the series, he truly shows that he values those around him. And, of course, Amuro-it’s hard to imagine a world where Amuro dies in episodes 7/8, especially since Tomino initially didn’t want him as the main character.
The animation has aged but the character development writing of this series aged like fine wine. You don’t see other series have characters change slowly into different people from the start to the final episode nowadays
@ it’s Bright for me. He started as by-the-book officer into an actual commander. I guess if Tomino wanted to show how war changes people, it was very successful in this show.
They say the English dub is worth using because of the sound mix being so much better. This show was monumental in creating character archetypes that would be paralleled throughout the franchise. SEED and AGE most obviously since they also paralleled the narrative. SEED is effectively a remix of the same story and characters, but with all the details jumbled up. I LOVE this approach to viewing the franchise. You are in this for the long haul friend, you've got 3 pretty good OVAs to get through before you get to Zeta, where the franchise becomes what it'll be known for forever. There's SOOO much to talk about. Eva was made specifically as a conjugate of this story, much like the other shows mentioned above. Wing takes more from Zeta, as will the rest of the series you will watch. 00 is effectively a remake of wing. IBO inverts the grand narrative position of the protagonists as heroes, and you realize they're actually the bad guys by the end. All of these shows take from this and more from Zeta. We're committed now, you and I. You gotta get at least through Zeta. ZZ was hard for me. Unicorn is probably still what I would call peak gundam. Hathaway is the other timeline where unicorn doesn't make sense. You'll get there.....
Personally I kinda choose to hold Unicorn in a pocket dimension of canon, same as Origin and Thunderbolt. I don’t want to go into too much detail, but I’ll leave it at «it doesn’t feel very Tomino»
@@Herr_Gamer Unicorn/Narrative's job was to put away all the implications of the Psychoframe for F91 and to explore them in the mean time. I think it worked well for the
@@DIEGhostfish I feel the currently ongoing manga Gundam Pulitzer seems to be doing that in a much more grounded way. To me, Unicorn takes it all too far in terms of plot and psychoframe related tech for something that will not have any actual impact on the timeline. It’s a good show on it’s own merits, but it doesn’t feel like UC to me
After 0079 is _Stardust Memories_ , which focuses on normal soldiers in a disadvantageous situation. _Zeta_ follows, and then _ZZ_ . In the period of the One Year War, you also have _War In The Pocket_ and _08th Mobile Suit Team_ , as well as the more recent _Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt_ . After _ZZ_ is _Char's Counterattack_ , and then _Unicorn_ , which has both a OVA miniseries and a full TV series. _Unicorn_ came out before _Thunderbolt_ , but the animation in both is very similar. There's also _Turn A_ and _Reconquista In G_ in this timeline, although they can be more confusing. _G-Reco_ especially gets described as 'a beautiful mess,' because while the art looks great, the story is confusing. There are also many alternate timeline retellings, including _Gundam Wing_, the popular _Gundam SEED_ series, its sequel, the _Freedom_ movie, and the _Astray_ sidestories. Then there's _Gundam 00_ , one of my favourites, as well as _Witch From Mercury_ and _Iron-Blooded Orphans_ . For a less serious angle, there's the _Build Fighters_ and _Divers_ series. Both _Fighters_ and _ReRise_ are liked better than _Try_ and _Divers_ , but they can be fun in their own right. Since these series put gunpla plastic models front-and-center, they are much more 'toy commercials' than the main series.
Doing this as a separate comment both to increase engagement and so others might see it and weigh in. Very well done video. I really appreciate the respect you show for both the old series while also managing to avoid writing off Origin. Many who start with it will suddenly flip to hating on it when they learn it’s not really canon. Same happens with Thunderbolt, another great UC-based series. In any case, watching Gundam can be a very different depending on how familiar on is with anime in general. All the tropes, gimmicks and character archetypes are familiar yet fresh. It’s both a history lesson and a great narrative experience that has absolutely aged remarkably well. The series has flaws of course. Honestly quite a lot. Most are the result of investor meddling and underbudgeting. 11 planned episodes were cut after all. If they’d known this beforehand, they would probably have left out things like the salt gathering episode. As a sidenote, I’m getting a friend of mine to watch the series finally and I strongly feel the issue you talked about with the brainrot attention span destruction. One thing is when he misses direct details like why the Gundam was at Side 7, another is when he seemingly doesn’t actually *watch* the animation. Like you noted with Amuro’s look of horror after witnessing his first deaths, this seems to have flown by his head along with Amuro initially struggling to get the Gundam moving, asking «how is he so good right off the bat». Need to melt his phone, on God. As for newtypeism, my personal belief is that it is supposed to be somewhat ambiguous. It gets developed quite a lot throughout the main story, but the fanbase is divided on how far we should accept it being taken. Tomino sets a pretty solid limit is all I’ll say for now. I think it is a mistake to consider newtypism a power system rather than a philosophical proposition. A newtype doesn’t have the power to move faster or hit harder. It’s based on emotion. You feel the enemy’s hostile intent and therefore you can react to it. You gain a greater sense of the space around you and the emotions of those in it. This is also how things like the Elmeth’s (Lalah’s mobile armour) funnels seem to work. Rather than being drones, they move based on intent and aim based on the «aura» of the target. Fans often fall into the trap of ignoring how even when used for battle, newtypism is fundamentally about connecting with people beyond words. I personally believe none of the instances of newtype telepathy are meant to be taken as actual words, more like guiding via feeling. Those that seek to weaponize newtypes are either ignorant or dismissive about this. Regarding Kycilia’s anti newtype sentiment towards the end, there is quite a lot of extensive manga lore in that regard. Currently the english translation is fanmade and the proper translator dropped it, the last few dozen chapters are translated with google from an already thai scanlated version. It’s… not good. I think you paint a very good picture of the characters you do discuss and I promise Char will not stop delivering. Personally I wish the series provided more background for his character like Origin ended up doing with it’s 5th volume OVA as finding prewar Gundam lore from the purist UC is very difficult. Wild claims with no sources spread and even take root on the wiki, so take care not to believe everything it says. And lastly, on the note of the continuation I have already voiced my opinion on that poll, but I will reiterate that I don’t think the movies are necessary. Maybe more suited to go back to them after completing the original saga.
Glad you enjoyed the vid man. And yeah tbh it took me a second watch of episode 1 to see some of the incredible details of certain scenes (like Amuro’s expression after the death of the federation soldiers). Also thanks for the info of the newtypes, didn’t perceive that on my watch but I’m sure you obviously have a better interpretation with your knowledge. Still conflicted on what to cover next but I’m sure anything I do post 0079 like Zeta or the movie trilogy will be an entertaining watch!
Fun fact, the creator actually specified what he meant by "will you survive?", specifying that the "you" he was referring to was humanity as a species, in reference to the phrase "there are nontrue winners or losers in war, only survivors". However I would argue your interpretation is just as valid, as it proves that one can draw multiple meanings from that aspect of the show.
i think a review of cucuruz doan's island movie is a more fitting follow-up to this retrospective rather than jumping to the compilation trilogy. the movie trilogy (while being the canonical version of 0079 to char's counterattack later on) has this breakneck pacing which loses much of the storytelling and deeper character work the anime succeeds at, and the doan's island film is exactly that - a 108-minute movie that perfectly feels like an extended episode of the anime.
This video is definitely an excellently done one. The perspectives were clearly presented, the visual style is awesome and the overall masterful work is unique.
@@jumpreport I did a character analysis video on Bright Noa last year, and he has some pretty weird ways about him in terms of not disciplining certain crew members in the same manner he does with most of the guys.
As someone who got into Gundam earlier this year, the original series shocked me with how good it was. I have a few gripes with a few episode's plots/dialogues, and Newtypes were barely touched upon, but overall it's still a classic despite the development issues it was plagued with. You picked up on that, since the original series was a bit of a flop, and the toy sponsor at the time shortened the episode count from I believe 54 to 43 due to poor toy sales. It wasn't until Bandai started making their own model kits (the gunpla we all know and love, I currently have 4 but just ordered 6 more) and the compilation movies that the series hit its stride. Sayla was my favorite character from the original (excluding Char when he drops his great lines), but well, I won't spoil anything about her in future Gundam series. At the moment my favorite Gundam show is Zeta Gundam, which was the next series Tomino made after the movies and is his unrestricted chance to do Gundam. Though before Zeta, there are a few series. During the One Year War there's several OVAs such as the 08th MS Team, 0080 War in the Pocket, the recent show on Netflix Requiem for Vengeance, and 1-2 others. For the most part those are pretty good, though have some flaws in their own ways. Then between those and Zeta is 0083: Stardust Memory, which somewhat sets the stage for Zeta's current setting, and is filled with great action and setpieces. It too has its own flaws though. All those lead into Zeta and that is directly followed by Double Zeta (ZZ), and then Amuro and Char's story reaches its conclusion in the movie Char's Counterattack. So while it may be a long ways off, especially if you take the time to look into the OVA series, I am looking forward to seeing your Gundam journey.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Looking forward to what’s in store in Zeta! Appreciate you seeing my efforts to point out the outside meddling of the anime too!
A lot of Gundam's animation got outsourced and the people they outsourced it to outsource their work load to even cheaper studios so imagine playing whisper down the alley with animation and that's pretty close to what Gundam's development cycle looked like
Gundam fan here with a few notes: Newtypes: this is important. WE, the audience, never hear what exactly Zeon Deikun's philosophy was, what his definition of Newtype was, all of that is filtered through the very flawed character of Char. And then, WE, the audience, have to interpret Char's interpretation of what exactly Newtypes are. Char's version of his father’s Newtype theory is not about genetics per se, but about the evolution of humanity, as a whole. Amuro was born on earth and raised in space. Char was born in space and raised on Earth. Lalah was born and raised on earth, and she's "more" of a Newtype than Char or Amuro. Space may have something to do with it, but not on the genetic level of an individual. Char in og Gundam is a bit of an odd character to talk about, especially to those that have seen The Origin's version of him, but I'd like to point out that Char might've been happy in the moment, but after Garma's death, Char more or less gives up on revenge. It's important to Char's character moving forward to internalize that all the trauma and pain Amuro went through, Char also went through but without the support system that Amuro had. Almost all of Char's comrades, subordinates, leaders, soldiers, people he's fought alongside with for a year, die. Lalah, one of the few people who he can be vulnerable with (or at least his version of it) died. He has no one. So when he realizes that Newtypes, these things that his father seemingly told him would be humanity's saviors, were instead being weaponized, he might've lost hope for them. As he describes them to Sayla, "Newtypes might just be a mutation brought about by war." I think that your analogy to Metal Gear is accurate. Many people, even in our real world, interpret Zeon Deikun and Newtypes differently
Some episodes really feel like the 90s like one of the final episodes where they put a song whose entire lyrics involve hyping Char even though the scene focuses on Amuro during the final episodes
I'd reccomend going straight to zeta, the 0079 movies really aren't that different, they're mostly made up of clips from the show, no new scenes, just occasional reanimation to fix errors or make it look better, plus a lot gets cut out cuz the run time is like less than a quarter of the original series.
Agreed. The full series is more detailed to begin with than condensed movies, although I suppose if he wanted to just quickly review it and point out most of the differences that would be fine.
Zeta is def going to be the next big vid but I’m on the fence on if I want to jump into making that or a vid on one of the side stories/movies just to give everyone something in the meantime
i cant think of any other fictional show thats had a more substantial impact on my life. literally everything in media was overly sanitized until anime started slowly being introduced to the american public. japanese put much more faith in the youths capacity to comprehend and process serious subjects through fictional story telling. its almost insulting how shallow and pointless eurocentric media was before the advent of english dubbed animes popularity
@ EXACTLY I’ve been craving for it ever since they remade cucuruz doans island meaning they could’ve six gundam movies about the one year war experience.
Watch stardust memory before you move onto zeta. That OVA is critical to understanding the post war transformation that the Earth Federation went through. I can’t stress enough how much the first third of zeta will make more sense if you watch stardust memory first
Things dont age, people expectation of how things should be do. Also its worth a watch even if you dont care about mecha. Its one of the most important pieces of japanese media of all time.
ep 1 of the OG gundam is one of the few animes that i will think about often, i saw it as a child and never looked back!...okay i looked away during SEED but came back for IBO
so a few notes: I'm honestly surprised you didn't bring up that this wasn't even Tomino's first mecha anime. in the 2 years leading up to Gundam he created both Zambot 3 and Daitarn 3 at Sunrise, and from what I understand the first one is tragic and the other one is kinda silly, which makes sense for Tomino. more importantly, to my understanding both of those shows produced some of the first mecha anime toys, and they were very successful. so much so that, yeah, Gundam suddenly not being able to sell toys meant that it got cancelled. the success of its predecessors actually set up the first real robot anime up for failure in a way I guess. it's also why the G-Fighter even exists; Clover, the toy company they were working with, wanted something new to sell so they had to come up with a weird transforming tank thing for kids to buy. also I'm a little surprised you didn't bring up the fact this show got cancelled (unless I did and I missed it, oops). and about Newtypes, apparently part of the reason they even came up with the idea was to explain how Amuro was able to pilot the giant war robot just by skimming through the manual once lol. and the romance betweeen Lalah and Amuro feeling "rushed", I mean that was kind of the point. their connection as newtypes was that strong. someone in a comment somewhere once described it like it was as if they knew each other their entire lives, and then Lalah dies. this is actually very important going forward re: Char and Amuro, but also meant to show what being a newtype meant. but I think you really should watch the movies because of all this. the movies were basically made because the show was originally a commercial failure, and a way to revitalize the franchise after the release of gunpla and renewed interest. they also change stuff in the second movie to add A LOT more about newtypes and actually feature them earlier in the story. there's also some changes, like the G-Fighter is completely replaced by a new vehicle 'cause as you can imagine Tomino and some other creators just really didn't like the thing and probably the corporate interfering that led to its creation. and the stuff they had to leave out for time: like I completely forgot about episode 8, that was actually a good episode about the nature of the conflict, but a lot of that stuff had to get cut out for time. anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but I do hope you read what I had to say.
Thanks for all that extra info! Good to know. And yeah the movies are on my list, just not sure if I want to do those immediately next or one of the side stories in between 0079 and Zeta
@@jumpreport yeah, sure, though speaking of the show getting cancelled, maybe I should bring up how female viewers apparently helped carry the show a lot while it was airing. Tomino himself brought this up before, might be worth looking into. also, having seen all the side stories (I think?) 0080, 08th MS Team, and Requiem for Vengeance are just fresh, new takes on the One Year War. the only thing I can think of is there's a character from 08th MS Team who makes a cameo appearance in RfV so I guess keep that in mind? 0083 is kind of different, it's meant to be a prequel to Zeta and they have a few moments in there that are meant for people who have already seen Zeta to be like "omg it's him!" even then, it's not on the same level as watching The Origin first imo.
Oh that will absolutely be the next big Gundam vid. But I might consider making a video on another smaller Gundam project to act as a hold over in between this vid and the Zeta one
@@jumpreport Awesome! While I would prefer Zeta over the later OVA that bridges 79 to Zeta as a first viewer experience, I still very much look forward to your Gundam reviews. Always interesting to hear new viewers experience with Gundam!
So I'll be honest, you should run through at least 0080 War in the Pocket and 0083 Stardust Memory. War in the Pocket is almost completely character driven and though it's one of the shorter entries in the franchise, you get to see the effects the OYW has on civilians in a very personal way. Stardust Memory shows immediate post-OYW world of the Universal Century and gives MSG's sequel, Zeta Gundam, some more world building as Stardust Memory shows the catalyst event that leads to the political climate in Zeta which happens four years later.
Fun fact about OG Gundam: the toys legit got it cancelled. Back then the merch was made by Clover, and their toys were... Not even remotely accurate, and worse still, even when ignoring the innaccuracies they weren't even good for their time. The result was that they (predictably) sold really... REALLY badly. So Clover went over Tomono's head, over Sunrise Studio's heads and had the series axxed gen episodes early, with Tomino and conbarely being able to negotiate a few more episodes so they could give the show a proper ending. Then, Bandai baught the rights to the franchise, produced the first gunpla, used the funds to revive the franchise and the rest is history.
Yeah I wanted to cover more characters but I just didn’t have time. I honestly wish I started on this project sooner but 🤷♂️. Hoping I’ll do a better job pacing myself on the next Gundam outing
Gundam 0079 (and pretty much every Gundam series ever) are 100% toy commercials. Sunrise is owned by Bandai, and their series before Gundam were all super robot anime that were meant to sell toys. Tomino's team pitched Gundam as an alternative to tap into an older market to buy model kits. Darker, more mature story vis-a-vis the campier child-oriented Super Robot shows before it was supposed to attract an audience that had more buying power and was more evergreen (ie, didn't get bored of buying the toy after the season was over---this is why fans nowadays are still buying 20 year old Gunpla). This is why there's a monster-of-the-week format in the series. It didn't really reach its intended audience initially, which is why it was commercially a flop. IIRC it didn't start getting traction until the model kits, and then the compilation movies, came out. As for Evangelion borrowing concepts...I mean, Hideaki Anno doesn't hide that Eva is his homage to all his childhood favorites. Ultraman, kaiju shows, mecha.
This is both true and not true. Bandai didn't acquire sunrise until 1994, and while they were a major sponsor every subsequent gundam product for the reasons you stated, the original Mobil Suit Gundam was sponsored by a toy company named Clover. I don't know what the original pitch for gundam was, but Clover had imagined the show was going to be a by the numbers super robot show to market what is now a pretty infamously poorly selling dye-cast Toy robot. Gundam's production is pretty well documented and was rife with creative disagreements between Tomino, executives at sunrise, and Clover; this, combined with poor ratings since the show was marketed to children, (and the dye-cast toy was VERY expensive) ultimately lead to the show being cancelled 10 episodes early. Bandai would not make the first Gunpla model kit until almost 6 months after the show had been cancelled, when they saw a market in the show's unexpected popularity with teenagers who had started discovering the show via word of mouth.
This is completely false - Plastic model kits made by Bandai did not come into Gundam until near the end of the life of the show - Bandai wasn’t even the original sponsor of Gundam and didn’t buy Sunrise until 1994! Gundam was a continuation of partnership between Sunrise and toy maker Clover after Tomino had successfully gave them several hit shows in Yuusha Reideen, Zambot 3 and Daitarn 3. After making 3 super robot shows (but with VERY different tones - Zambot 3 is even darker than Gundam even as a super robot show for example) Tomino got bored with giant mecha and wanted to push the envelope in his work and thus pitched Gundam - which was original inspired by Starship Troopers and would have the soldiers wear human sized powered suits - to Sunrise and Clover. Clover, which made what are called chougokin toys that are fully formed robot toys made mostly of disaster metal, agreed to sponsor the show again under the single condition that Tomino would turn it into yet another giant robot show but won’t interfere with the story, Tomino fought tooth and nail against it but gave up little by little until they reached the point of what it is now. The original draft of the Gundam design was mono coloured and had a space helmet for the head, only slowly got turned into the samurai armour and eventually given the tritone colour scheme cos Clover wanted to sell chougokin toys.
Honestly, just one rn (RX-78-2). So far, I aim to eventually get the main ones from 0079 (Zaku 2, Char’s and Ramba’s (for some reason his is really cool to me lol). As I move the shows I’ll def try and find some from each show that resonate with me. Will need to get a shelf or something to display them though
@ Ramba’s? That’s no Zaku, boy! No Zaku! Anyways yeah those are great picks. If you’re willing to put in a bit more effort, I highly recommend the Master Grade Zaku II and Gouf. Otherwise, the High Grade Revive variants of those same kits are also very nice. The Real Grade Zeong is also quite a beauty, but I recommend having some other experience first. Not becaude it’s more difficult, it follows the exact same step by step assembly, but because with more experience you’ll better appreciate how fun they managed to make that build. Anyhow I’ll drop my usual paragraph when I finish the entire video
Lol well hope you enjoy the video. Also I should mention I did pay 20 dollars for the Char Zaku skin in Warzone 😂. It makes you stick out like a sore thumb and none of my friends know where it’s from but honestly, it’s a fun skin. Also, it comes with some cool calling cards like Char laughing after offing Garma along with the quote you just said as a sticker. Maybe a stupid purchase but I got it after the Origin vid it just made sense
@@jumpreportgotta represent where you can. I spent untild hours making a Char emblem in Armored Core 6 only to get absolutely demolished in the online pvp. At least my mech looks cool…
the animation was NOT bad at all. look at animation in literally every eurocentric country during those years. hell look at eurocentric animation clear into the 2000's lol. bad animation is stuff like what hanna barbera made. my mind is blown every time i remember that show was made a decade before i was even born. the animation is mind blowing when you dont compare it to stuff that was made with technology that people in the 80's couldnt even imagine.
The story and music certainly do in my book. Some of the animation has issues, but those can be easily overlooked from how well it handled most of the concepts that would be further explored later in the UC timeline. There's some things I actually prefer from this over The Origin, but The Origin also has stuff in it that I prefer over 1979. For example, I like the G-PARTS over the Core Booster, but I also like that we get to actually see the battle where Char earns his title in The Origin, but in 1979 we only hear about it and iirc there's much fewer "off model" moments in The Origin.
The movies would probably be a quick video. Most of it is cannibalized footage from the series, but with some scenes that Yasuhiko was allowed to redraw to cover up for some of the worst of the off-model problems. The third movie seemed to have much of the work redrawn, and it fixes some of the pacing problems of the TV show. For example, the final episode of Gundam seems rushed, and while the third movie included most of the footage (some redrawn) of the final episode, having twenty minutes of a movie end it rather than having twenty minutes of a forty-some episode series end it, made the ending seem a lot less rushed and a lot more earned. Also the movies (rather than the TV show) are basically canon for the rest of Universal Century Gundam shows going forward. In all the flashbacks, Sayla is in the core booster rather than the G-Fighter. But you would probably have more fun going directly to Z-Gundam.
Please do the movies next. It's the same story you've seen, but streamlined and less obliging to the toy company (no G-Fortress, for example). And while there is SOME new animation in the first and second movies, the third is (almost) entirely new animation... And it looks MUCH better than the series. (Also, I know you started with the Origin, but as a long-time Gundam fan (I got into it as a kid in 1985), I ALWAYS recommend production order rather than chronological.)
Gundam's animation being of questionable quality is in large part why a lot of Gundam fans want a remake similar to what Space Battleship Yamato got a couple of years ago. Sunrise keeps dangling the possibility of what a remake could look like since the late 90's, with remastered or reinterpreted scenes from MSG done with contemporary animation and a bigger budget -- that's not even including the Origins continuity. That said, there are places where the art direction overcomes the clunkier animation. I particularly like the sense of isolation and claustrophobia MSG can elicit in its cockpit scenes, or the use of shadows to give a unique sense of depth to some of the scenes in outer space. It's just... pretty inconsistent all around.
I'll have to disagree with another commenter and *strongly* recommend you watch the compilation movie trilogy. Unlike most compilation movies, the 0079 movies actually improve the story. In addition to reanimated parts to fix some of the worst animation errors, and a couple of extra scenes, they have some *very* good musical additions to make the soundtrack less repetitive. The *BIG* improvement though is that the movies were made with a much stronger voice of Tomino and reduced influence from the toy company sponsors, since this was no longer a TV series that had to run commercials. A lot of the obvious toy gimmicks are removed. The Gundam Hammer is gone, the needlessly complicated G-parts are gone. The Gundam no longer uses a ridiculous rain poncho to survive atmospheric reentry. Many of the "monster of the week" enemies/toy commercials that don't affect the plot are removed (mostly the goofier ones). In addition a lot of the goofy slapstick is removed (though the inexplicable decision of the little kids remaining on the ship even after they reach Jaburo is retained, they get way less screen time). All in all the movies give a sense of much better directorial authority and far less sense that the whole thing is a toy commercial.
Darling in the franxx is fine sure it may have some crazy points in the story esp the ending parts anyway my mom has watched it aswell and likes it so never trust the hate
Eva does not fall under real robot at all it is super robot, yes it’s dark but being dark doesn’t make it real robot, just that fact that it has angles immediately makes it super robot no real robot anime has monsters like that
Gunda's animation being bad is not really a hot take, it was considered pretty bad even when it came out.Also, whenyou say the end of gundam feels rushed, that's because it was, the show was cancelled 10 episodes early.
@@jumpreport This fellow must either be in denial or Literally blind! As a huge fan of gundam the most generous thing I think I've every heard someone say about the original MSG's visuals is that they're "charming." Gundam is a show that looks like it was made on the cheep in the late fifties or early sixties that came out in the late seventies. It's poor visuals are commonly cited when discussing why the franchisor had such a difficult time gaining traction outside of japan.
Absolutely not! For the last seven years, we've been getting nothing but terrible shows. Where is the other part of Hathaway? What happened to Thunderbolt? What about a proper adaptation of F91 or Gundam: The Moon? There is so much potential for great stories, yet they keep ruining it. I really dislike Gundam G quaxxx. And before anyone criticizes me, think about it: Why would you waste a Zeon mobile suit against the Federation plot with elements from G Gundam? Why not create a show set 20 years later where Amuro's son or daughter joins a rebel group to overthrow Zeon? That would be so much better. And instead of giving us that destiny movie, why not give us Gundam astrasy then that shit. And witch of mercury was high mid, which isn't bad, but its mid
Exist a minor mistake about the canonicy of Origins, many people says its a alternative version of the Universal Century and the people are right about manga, the anime one makes changes match more with the anime continuity specifically the movie trilogy, so Origin its canon. Saying this the video was great, its a shame you can cover all the aspects of the show but its understandable since all topics to talk, one of my favorites characters is Dozle Zabi, in any other show this man probably the goofy villain but here a its competent commander who dies in one the most epic moment i ver see, you're supposition about Char are very in the line who what happens next to him but i don't want to spoil because Char its the caracther with more development in the franchise, only going to say the comparation with Big Boss are pretty accurate. The final thing to say, after the anime Tomino wrote a novel adaptation of the anime with all the elements he can't puts in the anime, for example Amuro and Sayla become a couple in the novel and Amuro pilots a second Gundam after the destruction of the RX-78-2 knows as the RX-78-3 or G3 Gundam for abbreviation. I really want to see you're through about next series and movies you're pretty awesome.
Thank you for the praises man. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for that additional info! What I liked about Dozle is they really humanize him with giving him a wife and kids. He’s not just a hulking angry dude and they show a side of kindness and humanity with him having a wife and kid who he seems to genuinely love
Bro you were soooo close but really messed up with the insertion of “focusing more on the characters” - Super robot shows also focused on the characters since the beginning! Even in Mazinger Z Kouji has to confront his responsibilities as the pilot of the only weapon which stands between peace and invasion of the evil ex-Nazi (no joke) scientist Dr Hell. This fake distinction dreamed up by western audience that super robot shows is not about the characters is fake. The of the two sub genres is actually very blurry, at most you can just say the super robot shows yells out their attacks. Also Amuro and Lalah’s attraction is explained by their Newtype bond - you missed a huge part of Newtype “power” being that they can fully understand each other’s thought in like a vulcan mind meld on steroids, so when two Newtypes form this bond it’s like they instantly become soulmates for life, hence Amuro and Lalah were so attached to each other without having to “develop” their relationship in the traditional sense. Also you should watch Zeta Gundam > ZZ Gundam and Char’s Counter Attack which is the release order and are all written by Tomino. Don’t watch chronological order since shows like 08th MS Team and 0083 are like side quests and not written by Tomino and will only distract from Tomino’s core message.
0079 is hard wall for anyone who is interested in UC Gundam. For me, the novels, books and mangas are the way to go (Especially the Origins). Bandai should be pressed to reanimate the entire series because we are approaching 50 years at this point, and the animation flaws and lack of budget at the time are VERY apparent despite the compelling narrative of MSG.
well fist me and control my body like a gundam this was a good video
Episode 1 of 0079 is one of the best vertical slices of a show I've ever seen. It's simply incredible what they were capable of conveying in a single episode. I re-watch this episode pretty consistently and every time I notice something new, or see a line of dialogue in a different light. I wish more modern shows were willing to take their time and put as much consideration into their storytelling as granddaddy gundam did.
Agreed. I honestly didn’t catch the foreshadowing of Tem Ray or his initial fate in my first watch it was on a second watch that I caught that lol
For me it's episode 41. After seeing so many mecha things at this point it still has one of the most emotionally raw scenes out of all of them.
Gundam’s Episode 1 is one of my favorite Episode 1s of all time including Fist of the North Star, Monster, etc.
Longtime Gundam fan here.
As far as I'm concerned, 0079 remains one of very few entries in the series to actually stand up to times' test.
It deserves a spot right next to the OG Star Trek, Babylon 5, and the original Star Wars films as some of the best sci fi to ever be produced.
I know. This anime came out around the time when my dad was a kid. Growing up he loved Star Trek TOS and showed me it when I was young. After watching MSG I kind of wish he saw it when he was a kid because he would’ve loved it forsure
Strongly prefer 1979 Gundam to Zeta, making my way through ZZ right now. I just think Zeta is so self serious and bleak with fewer compelling characters than what 1979 had
I'm surprised you enjoyed it so much, I generally prefer the film trilogy as it smooths out some of the series problems without sacrificing the story too much (something film trilogies for future series fail miserably at, stay away from Zeta's A New Translation if you value your sanity) and the third film is entirely new animation and looks quite good. You're not wrong about the Lalah romance with Amuro being rushed, the series was supposed to be 50 episodes long but was cancelled, Tomini had to fight to get a few extra episodes to finish the story.
One thing I really like about 0079's story that I've yet to see any other Gundam series replicate is that the protagonist and their ship have very little to do with the overall events of the war, they're involved but not the driving force. The show goes out of it's way to point out how Zeon wildly overvalues the White Base and so it's used as a decoy, you could remove the White Base's entire journey Zeon would still lose the war.
I hope you give Zeta the same treatment, for me it's the best Gundam series story wise.
Of course! I’m hoping I can plan this Zeta video’s work a little better than this one and obviously make it even better than this video. And when it comes to this vs the trilogy, I plan on showing my co host Taylor just the movie trilogy will. He’s not into Gundam like I am so I think it will be a better investment for someone like him. And yeah I noticed that with the white base, it’s cool how Gundam feels like a grander story is happening in the bg but they’re willing to focus in on this one specific story of the war
Edit: Amaro does see what the soldiers do in episode 8 he even says that he wise they hadn’t seen him but luckily they survived
One of my favorite set of scenes in the show are the first scenes with Degwin Zabi because we have seen the awful shit the Zeon has done so we expect this evil monster but the first scene we see of him is him as a grieving father stunned and saddening by Garma’s death the first thing he does when the rest of the family gets there is to take a moment to just grieve he wants a small personal funeral but does a state funeral at the pushing of Gerhin and Kycilla the next scene we see him listening to Garma’s last message, where we see the Garma’s despite being a spoiled brat did want to earn his station and make his family proud, and it shows how that beside Gerhin aka Hilter 2.0 ( Dewgin literally compares him to hitler later on) and Kycilla aka Ms. Backstab even the people at the chore of Zeon has some good to them
Great video run down, memories flooding back when I originally watched it off Toonami, you covered it all very well and have great editing.
Bright is my favorite character , but lately I love Garma, and without spoilers, just wanted his sister's approval.
Glad to hear you liked it! Thanks for the compliment on the editing 😅. This one took a while to make
WE MUST GO LONGER!
Next Gundam vid will be 6 hours long and a trilogy series
its stunning to see the First Gundam series is crazily enjoyable and relevant to current geopolitics
It’s definitely a work that has stood the test of time!
i just finished the og gundam a few months ago, definitely a bonafide classic in 2024 it holds up w the best of em especially if u like sci fi
Regarding the comparison between Gundam and Evangelion, it actually seems like the inspiration for Evangelion was another Tomino show titled Space Runaway Ideon as well as the book by Arthur C Clarke, Childhoods End.
Somebody mentioned Ideon and how it parallels Gundam, would be curious to check it out now
@@jumpreport From what I hear, the TV series had some neat ideas for the time but suffered from being overly formulaic in many respects. It seems to have been perfectly watchable, just being nothing special.
The movie, Be Invoked, on the other hand which provides the finale for the show (similar to how End of Evangelion did for it's TV series given both suffered from cuts near the end) is generally regarded as one of Tomino's best work.
While there is a compilation movie of the TV series, I don't recommend it as it leaves out a lot of information that you would need to understand Be Invoked.
It is interesting though as even though Ideon is a super robot show through and through, you can really tell that some of the Gundam real robot DNA is there. it also goes for a more space opera feel as compared to others in the same genre.
Evangelion is a confusing series that stems from a creator who could not accept the realities of life, resulting in the most disturbing content I have ever watched.
Love shinji, but I fucking hate evangalion.
15:30 It’s worse than that… They were hit by one of the wire-guided rockets the Earth federation forces were using against the Zakus, which means Amuro just saw those soldiers get killed by friendly fire.
No doubt, one of the most unique series I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s hard to imagine that the anime, even after being canceled, managed to become such a major franchise. Despite a rocky start, poor toy sales from Clover (one of the worst toy companies), and a limited initial release, it still stood alongside Star Wars and Star Trek as an iconic sci-fi and war-themed franchise.
About my favorite characters:
Jose, one of the original White Base soldiers, saved Amuro with nothing but a Core Fighter. Job John... just hearing his name makes you start liking him. Kai begins as someone ignorant, who cares about no one but himself, but by the end of the series, he truly shows that he values those around him. And, of course, Amuro-it’s hard to imagine a world where Amuro dies in episodes 7/8, especially since Tomino initially didn’t want him as the main character.
Yeah that would’ve been interesting to see what they did with Gundam if they didn’t have Amuro in there lol
Awesome ! Well done!
I love this video I just got done watching a ton of classic Gundam shows and now this
Thank you! Glad to hear you loved it
As someone who never knew about gundam until watching 0079 this June, yeah i love it. 9/10, got me to watch 5 other shows and i now have 8 gunplas.
9/10 is also what I’d rate 0079 tbh lol
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Only 8?
@@No-XIV-Xion Rookie numbers I know
@@oof5992 you'll get there. I have like 20 and only built 3.........with like 5 more ordered........
The animation has aged but the character development writing of this series aged like fine wine.
You don’t see other series have characters change slowly into different people from the start to the final episode nowadays
Kai definitely was a prime example of a character that greatly changed throughout the anime!
@ it’s Bright for me. He started as by-the-book officer into an actual commander.
I guess if Tomino wanted to show how war changes people, it was very successful in this show.
Yeah, loved Bright a lot and I think his internal conflict with leadership is one of the best in the show
Zeta Gundam video will be 1 and a half hour long lmao, you are in a ride for it.
Shit it might have to be 😭
Doan's Island movie is in the Origin timeline and it's great
A doans Island movie review is more than warranted. The movie is fanservice done right. One last adventure with the OG crew.
Also Ramba Ral is the GOAT
Just started getting into gundam early this year. I haven't gotten super deep in yet, but the next series, Zeta Gundam is my favorite one so far.
They say the English dub is worth using because of the sound mix being so much better.
This show was monumental in creating character archetypes that would be paralleled throughout the franchise.
SEED and AGE most obviously since they also paralleled the narrative.
SEED is effectively a remix of the same story and characters, but with all the details jumbled up. I LOVE this approach to viewing the franchise.
You are in this for the long haul friend, you've got 3 pretty good OVAs to get through before you get to Zeta, where the franchise becomes what it'll be known for forever.
There's SOOO much to talk about. Eva was made specifically as a conjugate of this story, much like the other shows mentioned above.
Wing takes more from Zeta, as will the rest of the series you will watch. 00 is effectively a remake of wing.
IBO inverts the grand narrative position of the protagonists as heroes, and you realize they're actually the bad guys by the end.
All of these shows take from this and more from Zeta. We're committed now, you and I. You gotta get at least through Zeta.
ZZ was hard for me. Unicorn is probably still what I would call peak gundam. Hathaway is the other timeline where unicorn doesn't make sense. You'll get there.....
Personally I kinda choose to hold Unicorn in a pocket dimension of canon, same as Origin and Thunderbolt. I don’t want to go into too much detail, but I’ll leave it at «it doesn’t feel very Tomino»
@@Herr_Gamer Unicorn/Narrative's job was to put away all the implications of the Psychoframe for F91 and to explore them in the mean time. I think it worked well for the
@@DIEGhostfish I feel the currently ongoing manga Gundam Pulitzer seems to be doing that in a much more grounded way. To me, Unicorn takes it all too far in terms of plot and psychoframe related tech for something that will not have any actual impact on the timeline. It’s a good show on it’s own merits, but it doesn’t feel like UC to me
We’ll get to Zeta eventually it’s inevitable! Thank you for following my Gundam journey!
Loved the video Subbed. Good luck with the child
Would you like more content? Yes. Actually something I would like os to have someone compare the novelization amd the series.
The novel is crazy bro it's like as dark as thunderbolt
After 0079 is _Stardust Memories_ , which focuses on normal soldiers in a disadvantageous situation. _Zeta_ follows, and then _ZZ_ .
In the period of the One Year War, you also have _War In The Pocket_ and _08th Mobile Suit Team_ , as well as the more recent _Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt_ .
After _ZZ_ is _Char's Counterattack_ , and then _Unicorn_ , which has both a OVA miniseries and a full TV series. _Unicorn_ came out before _Thunderbolt_ , but the animation in both is very similar. There's also _Turn A_ and _Reconquista In G_ in this timeline, although they can be more confusing. _G-Reco_ especially gets described as 'a beautiful mess,' because while the art looks great, the story is confusing.
There are also many alternate timeline retellings, including _Gundam Wing_, the popular _Gundam SEED_ series, its sequel, the _Freedom_ movie, and the _Astray_ sidestories. Then there's _Gundam 00_ , one of my favourites, as well as _Witch From Mercury_ and _Iron-Blooded Orphans_ .
For a less serious angle, there's the _Build Fighters_ and _Divers_ series. Both _Fighters_ and _ReRise_ are liked better than _Try_ and _Divers_ , but they can be fun in their own right. Since these series put gunpla plastic models front-and-center, they are much more 'toy commercials' than the main series.
Doing this as a separate comment both to increase engagement and so others might see it and weigh in.
Very well done video. I really appreciate the respect you show for both the old series while also managing to avoid writing off Origin. Many who start with it will suddenly flip to hating on it when they learn it’s not really canon. Same happens with Thunderbolt, another great UC-based series. In any case, watching Gundam can be a very different depending on how familiar on is with anime in general. All the tropes, gimmicks and character archetypes are familiar yet fresh. It’s both a history lesson and a great narrative experience that has absolutely aged remarkably well. The series has flaws of course. Honestly quite a lot. Most are the result of investor meddling and underbudgeting. 11 planned episodes were cut after all. If they’d known this beforehand, they would probably have left out things like the salt gathering episode. As a sidenote, I’m getting a friend of mine to watch the series finally and I strongly feel the issue you talked about with the brainrot attention span destruction. One thing is when he misses direct details like why the Gundam was at Side 7, another is when he seemingly doesn’t actually *watch* the animation. Like you noted with Amuro’s look of horror after witnessing his first deaths, this seems to have flown by his head along with Amuro initially struggling to get the Gundam moving, asking «how is he so good right off the bat». Need to melt his phone, on God.
As for newtypeism, my personal belief is that it is supposed to be somewhat ambiguous. It gets developed quite a lot throughout the main story, but the fanbase is divided on how far we should accept it being taken. Tomino sets a pretty solid limit is all I’ll say for now. I think it is a mistake to consider newtypism a power system rather than a philosophical proposition. A newtype doesn’t have the power to move faster or hit harder. It’s based on emotion. You feel the enemy’s hostile intent and therefore you can react to it. You gain a greater sense of the space around you and the emotions of those in it. This is also how things like the Elmeth’s (Lalah’s mobile armour) funnels seem to work. Rather than being drones, they move based on intent and aim based on the «aura» of the target. Fans often fall into the trap of ignoring how even when used for battle, newtypism is fundamentally about connecting with people beyond words. I personally believe none of the instances of newtype telepathy are meant to be taken as actual words, more like guiding via feeling. Those that seek to weaponize newtypes are either ignorant or dismissive about this. Regarding Kycilia’s anti newtype sentiment towards the end, there is quite a lot of extensive manga lore in that regard. Currently the english translation is fanmade and the proper translator dropped it, the last few dozen chapters are translated with google from an already thai scanlated version. It’s… not good.
I think you paint a very good picture of the characters you do discuss and I promise Char will not stop delivering. Personally I wish the series provided more background for his character like Origin ended up doing with it’s 5th volume OVA as finding prewar Gundam lore from the purist UC is very difficult. Wild claims with no sources spread and even take root on the wiki, so take care not to believe everything it says.
And lastly, on the note of the continuation I have already voiced my opinion on that poll, but I will reiterate that I don’t think the movies are necessary. Maybe more suited to go back to them after completing the original saga.
Glad you enjoyed the vid man. And yeah tbh it took me a second watch of episode 1 to see some of the incredible details of certain scenes (like Amuro’s expression after the death of the federation soldiers). Also thanks for the info of the newtypes, didn’t perceive that on my watch but I’m sure you obviously have a better interpretation with your knowledge. Still conflicted on what to cover next but I’m sure anything I do post 0079 like Zeta or the movie trilogy will be an entertaining watch!
In regard to the soundtrack, Andrew WK did a mobile suit gundam concept album using the soundtrack as the basis.
Basis? Concept album? His album is all covers. No concept or basis needed.
@paulheap1982 he wrote lyrics
I’ve never watched the original series but I am a huge fan of the movie trilogy
Fun fact, the creator actually specified what he meant by "will you survive?", specifying that the "you" he was referring to was humanity as a species, in reference to the phrase "there are nontrue winners or losers in war, only survivors".
However I would argue your interpretation is just as valid, as it proves that one can draw multiple meanings from that aspect of the show.
Remakes of older series are starting to become a common in anime; Gundam will be remade sooner rather than later.
Yes it’s strange to start seeing them now, but I’m confident I could see Gundam getting a remake next
i think a review of cucuruz doan's island movie is a more fitting follow-up to this retrospective rather than jumping to the compilation trilogy. the movie trilogy (while being the canonical version of 0079 to char's counterattack later on) has this breakneck pacing which loses much of the storytelling and deeper character work the anime succeeds at, and the doan's island film is exactly that - a 108-minute movie that perfectly feels like an extended episode of the anime.
This video is definitely an excellently done one. The perspectives were clearly presented, the visual style is awesome and the overall masterful work is unique.
Thank you boss! Glad you enjoyed the vid 🤠
@jumpreport You are very welcome. I also put the video in my 'Favorites' playlist.
Awesome! Glad to hear that!
@@jumpreport I did a character analysis video on Bright Noa last year, and he has some pretty weird ways about him in terms of not disciplining certain crew members in the same manner he does with most of the guys.
Is it 0079 only? Love to see it if there’s no post 79 spoilers!
would love to see you cover the films!
As someone who got into Gundam earlier this year, the original series shocked me with how good it was. I have a few gripes with a few episode's plots/dialogues, and Newtypes were barely touched upon, but overall it's still a classic despite the development issues it was plagued with. You picked up on that, since the original series was a bit of a flop, and the toy sponsor at the time shortened the episode count from I believe 54 to 43 due to poor toy sales. It wasn't until Bandai started making their own model kits (the gunpla we all know and love, I currently have 4 but just ordered 6 more) and the compilation movies that the series hit its stride.
Sayla was my favorite character from the original (excluding Char when he drops his great lines), but well, I won't spoil anything about her in future Gundam series.
At the moment my favorite Gundam show is Zeta Gundam, which was the next series Tomino made after the movies and is his unrestricted chance to do Gundam.
Though before Zeta, there are a few series. During the One Year War there's several OVAs such as the 08th MS Team, 0080 War in the Pocket, the recent show on Netflix Requiem for Vengeance, and 1-2 others. For the most part those are pretty good, though have some flaws in their own ways. Then between those and Zeta is 0083: Stardust Memory, which somewhat sets the stage for Zeta's current setting, and is filled with great action and setpieces. It too has its own flaws though.
All those lead into Zeta and that is directly followed by Double Zeta (ZZ), and then Amuro and Char's story reaches its conclusion in the movie Char's Counterattack.
So while it may be a long ways off, especially if you take the time to look into the OVA series, I am looking forward to seeing your Gundam journey.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Looking forward to what’s in store in Zeta! Appreciate you seeing my efforts to point out the outside meddling of the anime too!
You should genuinely read the origin manga as it’s such a good retelling of the original series
A lot of Gundam's animation got outsourced and the people they outsourced it to outsource their work load to even cheaper studios so imagine playing whisper down the alley with animation and that's pretty close to what Gundam's development cycle looked like
Yeah now that you mention it, it’s pretty evident lol
Gundam fan here with a few notes:
Newtypes: this is important. WE, the audience, never hear what exactly Zeon Deikun's philosophy was, what his definition of Newtype was, all of that is filtered through the very flawed character of Char. And then, WE, the audience, have to interpret Char's interpretation of what exactly Newtypes are.
Char's version of his father’s Newtype theory is not about genetics per se, but about the evolution of humanity, as a whole. Amuro was born on earth and raised in space. Char was born in space and raised on Earth. Lalah was born and raised on earth, and she's "more" of a Newtype than Char or Amuro.
Space may have something to do with it, but not on the genetic level of an individual.
Char in og Gundam is a bit of an odd character to talk about, especially to those that have seen The Origin's version of him, but I'd like to point out that Char might've been happy in the moment, but after Garma's death, Char more or less gives up on revenge. It's important to Char's character moving forward to internalize that all the trauma and pain Amuro went through, Char also went through but without the support system that Amuro had. Almost all of Char's comrades, subordinates, leaders, soldiers, people he's fought alongside with for a year, die. Lalah, one of the few people who he can be vulnerable with (or at least his version of it) died. He has no one. So when he realizes that Newtypes, these things that his father seemingly told him would be humanity's saviors, were instead being weaponized, he might've lost hope for them. As he describes them to Sayla, "Newtypes might just be a mutation brought about by war."
I think that your analogy to Metal Gear is accurate. Many people, even in our real world, interpret Zeon Deikun and Newtypes differently
Lol glad to hear my Metal Gear analogy was a great parallel to Gundam’s Newtypes
Some episodes really feel like the 90s like one of the final episodes where they put a song whose entire lyrics involve hyping Char even though the scene focuses on Amuro during the final episodes
I'd reccomend going straight to zeta, the 0079 movies really aren't that different, they're mostly made up of clips from the show, no new scenes, just occasional reanimation to fix errors or make it look better, plus a lot gets cut out cuz the run time is like less than a quarter of the original series.
Agreed. The full series is more detailed to begin with than condensed movies, although I suppose if he wanted to just quickly review it and point out most of the differences that would be fine.
Zeta is def going to be the next big vid but I’m on the fence on if I want to jump into making that or a vid on one of the side stories/movies just to give everyone something in the meantime
i cant think of any other fictional show thats had a more substantial impact on my life. literally everything in media was overly sanitized until anime started slowly being introduced to the american public. japanese put much more faith in the youths capacity to comprehend and process serious subjects through fictional story telling. its almost insulting how shallow and pointless eurocentric media was before the advent of english dubbed animes popularity
Bluey pretty deep tho
We need to modernize version for 0079
Would be interesting to see Gundam 79 be reanimated in the origin’s art style and some cleaner polish! They have to keep in all the slaps though
@ EXACTLY I’ve been craving for it ever since they remade cucuruz doans island meaning they could’ve six gundam movies about the one year war experience.
Watch stardust memory before you move onto zeta. That OVA is critical to understanding the post war transformation that the Earth Federation went through. I can’t stress enough how much the first third of zeta will make more sense if you watch stardust memory first
Zeta. ZETA. I am enjoying reliving my own Gundam journey through you!
Lol good to hear
Things dont age, people expectation of how things should be do.
Also its worth a watch even if you dont care about mecha. Its one of the most important pieces of japanese media of all time.
Read that first line in Miller’s MGSV voice ngl
I don't think Char hates Newtypes, He wants a place they'll be safe.
39:45 My favorite moment in MSG 😁
Lol I forgot that happened and saw it when I was editing and had to make a quick gag out of it 😂
ep 1 of the OG gundam is one of the few animes that i will think about often, i saw it as a child and never looked back!...okay i looked away during SEED but came back for IBO
Make a part 2 about the other arcs
Character arcs or shows?
@ yessiry
so a few notes: I'm honestly surprised you didn't bring up that this wasn't even Tomino's first mecha anime. in the 2 years leading up to Gundam he created both Zambot 3 and Daitarn 3 at Sunrise, and from what I understand the first one is tragic and the other one is kinda silly, which makes sense for Tomino. more importantly, to my understanding both of those shows produced some of the first mecha anime toys, and they were very successful. so much so that, yeah, Gundam suddenly not being able to sell toys meant that it got cancelled. the success of its predecessors actually set up the first real robot anime up for failure in a way I guess. it's also why the G-Fighter even exists; Clover, the toy company they were working with, wanted something new to sell so they had to come up with a weird transforming tank thing for kids to buy.
also I'm a little surprised you didn't bring up the fact this show got cancelled (unless I did and I missed it, oops).
and about Newtypes, apparently part of the reason they even came up with the idea was to explain how Amuro was able to pilot the giant war robot just by skimming through the manual once lol. and the romance betweeen Lalah and Amuro feeling "rushed", I mean that was kind of the point. their connection as newtypes was that strong. someone in a comment somewhere once described it like it was as if they knew each other their entire lives, and then Lalah dies. this is actually very important going forward re: Char and Amuro, but also meant to show what being a newtype meant.
but I think you really should watch the movies because of all this. the movies were basically made because the show was originally a commercial failure, and a way to revitalize the franchise after the release of gunpla and renewed interest. they also change stuff in the second movie to add A LOT more about newtypes and actually feature them earlier in the story. there's also some changes, like the G-Fighter is completely replaced by a new vehicle 'cause as you can imagine Tomino and some other creators just really didn't like the thing and probably the corporate interfering that led to its creation. and the stuff they had to leave out for time: like I completely forgot about episode 8, that was actually a good episode about the nature of the conflict, but a lot of that stuff had to get cut out for time.
anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but I do hope you read what I had to say.
Thanks for all that extra info! Good to know. And yeah the movies are on my list, just not sure if I want to do those immediately next or one of the side stories in between 0079 and Zeta
@@jumpreport yeah, sure, though speaking of the show getting cancelled, maybe I should bring up how female viewers apparently helped carry the show a lot while it was airing. Tomino himself brought this up before, might be worth looking into.
also, having seen all the side stories (I think?) 0080, 08th MS Team, and Requiem for Vengeance are just fresh, new takes on the One Year War. the only thing I can think of is there's a character from 08th MS Team who makes a cameo appearance in RfV so I guess keep that in mind? 0083 is kind of different, it's meant to be a prequel to Zeta and they have a few moments in there that are meant for people who have already seen Zeta to be like "omg it's him!" even then, it's not on the same level as watching The Origin first imo.
What's next?
Zeta of course!
Absolutely need to watch Zeta. It expands so much from the 79 Gundam. It is an _Incredible_ sequel.
Oh that will absolutely be the next big Gundam vid. But I might consider making a video on another smaller Gundam project to act as a hold over in between this vid and the Zeta one
@@jumpreport Awesome!
While I would prefer Zeta over the later OVA that bridges 79 to Zeta as a first viewer experience, I still very much look forward to your Gundam reviews.
Always interesting to hear new viewers experience with Gundam!
I like old anime op, especially the og gundam, because they have some type of orchestra enlighten aura
Yes please, do a review on Kudos Foams island !
So I'll be honest, you should run through at least 0080 War in the Pocket and 0083 Stardust Memory. War in the Pocket is almost completely character driven and though it's one of the shorter entries in the franchise, you get to see the effects the OYW has on civilians in a very personal way. Stardust Memory shows immediate post-OYW world of the Universal Century and gives MSG's sequel, Zeta Gundam, some more world building as Stardust Memory shows the catalyst event that leads to the political climate in Zeta which happens four years later.
Fun fact about OG Gundam: the toys legit got it cancelled. Back then the merch was made by Clover, and their toys were... Not even remotely accurate, and worse still, even when ignoring the innaccuracies they weren't even good for their time.
The result was that they (predictably) sold really... REALLY badly. So Clover went over Tomono's head, over Sunrise Studio's heads and had the series axxed gen episodes early, with Tomino and conbarely being able to negotiate a few more episodes so they could give the show a proper ending.
Then, Bandai baught the rights to the franchise, produced the first gunpla, used the funds to revive the franchise and the rest is history.
Masterpiece, nothing else to add
I feel like skipping Ramba, M'quve and the federation brass in Jaburo might be a bit of a mistake.
Yeah I wanted to cover more characters but I just didn’t have time. I honestly wish I started on this project sooner but 🤷♂️. Hoping I’ll do a better job pacing myself on the next Gundam outing
It's better than the movies imo, narrative wise.
Gundam 0079 (and pretty much every Gundam series ever) are 100% toy commercials. Sunrise is owned by Bandai, and their series before Gundam were all super robot anime that were meant to sell toys. Tomino's team pitched Gundam as an alternative to tap into an older market to buy model kits. Darker, more mature story vis-a-vis the campier child-oriented Super Robot shows before it was supposed to attract an audience that had more buying power and was more evergreen (ie, didn't get bored of buying the toy after the season was over---this is why fans nowadays are still buying 20 year old Gunpla). This is why there's a monster-of-the-week format in the series. It didn't really reach its intended audience initially, which is why it was commercially a flop. IIRC it didn't start getting traction until the model kits, and then the compilation movies, came out.
As for Evangelion borrowing concepts...I mean, Hideaki Anno doesn't hide that Eva is his homage to all his childhood favorites. Ultraman, kaiju shows, mecha.
This is both true and not true. Bandai didn't acquire sunrise until 1994, and while they were a major sponsor every subsequent gundam product for the reasons you stated, the original Mobil Suit Gundam was sponsored by a toy company named Clover. I don't know what the original pitch for gundam was, but Clover had imagined the show was going to be a by the numbers super robot show to market what is now a pretty infamously poorly selling dye-cast Toy robot.
Gundam's production is pretty well documented and was rife with creative disagreements between Tomino, executives at sunrise, and Clover; this, combined with poor ratings since the show was marketed to children, (and the dye-cast toy was VERY expensive) ultimately lead to the show being cancelled 10 episodes early. Bandai would not make the first Gunpla model kit until almost 6 months after the show had been cancelled, when they saw a market in the show's unexpected popularity with teenagers who had started discovering the show via word of mouth.
This is completely false - Plastic model kits made by Bandai did not come into Gundam until near the end of the life of the show - Bandai wasn’t even the original sponsor of Gundam and didn’t buy Sunrise until 1994! Gundam was a continuation of partnership between Sunrise and toy maker Clover after Tomino had successfully gave them several hit shows in Yuusha Reideen, Zambot 3 and Daitarn 3. After making 3 super robot shows (but with VERY different tones - Zambot 3 is even darker than Gundam even as a super robot show for example) Tomino got bored with giant mecha and wanted to push the envelope in his work and thus pitched Gundam - which was original inspired by Starship Troopers and would have the soldiers wear human sized powered suits - to Sunrise and Clover. Clover, which made what are called chougokin toys that are fully formed robot toys made mostly of disaster metal, agreed to sponsor the show again under the single condition that Tomino would turn it into yet another giant robot show but won’t interfere with the story, Tomino fought tooth and nail against it but gave up little by little until they reached the point of what it is now. The original draft of the Gundam design was mono coloured and had a space helmet for the head, only slowly got turned into the samurai armour and eventually given the tritone colour scheme cos Clover wanted to sell chougokin toys.
So how many gunpla models have you bought by now?
Honestly, just one rn (RX-78-2). So far, I aim to eventually get the main ones from 0079 (Zaku 2, Char’s and Ramba’s (for some reason his is really cool to me lol). As I move the shows I’ll def try and find some from each show that resonate with me. Will need to get a shelf or something to display them though
@ Ramba’s? That’s no Zaku, boy! No Zaku! Anyways yeah those are great picks. If you’re willing to put in a bit more effort, I highly recommend the Master Grade Zaku II and Gouf. Otherwise, the High Grade Revive variants of those same kits are also very nice. The Real Grade Zeong is also quite a beauty, but I recommend having some other experience first. Not becaude it’s more difficult, it follows the exact same step by step assembly, but because with more experience you’ll better appreciate how fun they managed to make that build. Anyhow I’ll drop my usual paragraph when I finish the entire video
Lol well hope you enjoy the video. Also I should mention I did pay 20 dollars for the Char Zaku skin in Warzone 😂. It makes you stick out like a sore thumb and none of my friends know where it’s from but honestly, it’s a fun skin. Also, it comes with some cool calling cards like Char laughing after offing Garma along with the quote you just said as a sticker. Maybe a stupid purchase but I got it after the Origin vid it just made sense
@@jumpreportgotta represent where you can. I spent untild hours making a Char emblem in Armored Core 6 only to get absolutely demolished in the online pvp. At least my mech looks cool…
I haven’t played Armored Core ever. How would you say 6 is?
the animation was NOT bad at all. look at animation in literally every eurocentric country during those years. hell look at eurocentric animation clear into the 2000's lol. bad animation is stuff like what hanna barbera made. my mind is blown every time i remember that show was made a decade before i was even born. the animation is mind blowing when you dont compare it to stuff that was made with technology that people in the 80's couldnt even imagine.
@johnfields4796 tells me otherwise 🤨
The animation was bad in alot of places and was considered so even at the time. It's was a low budget show.
The story and music certainly do in my book. Some of the animation has issues, but those can be easily overlooked from how well it handled most of the concepts that would be further explored later in the UC timeline. There's some things I actually prefer from this over The Origin, but The Origin also has stuff in it that I prefer over 1979.
For example, I like the G-PARTS over the Core Booster, but I also like that we get to actually see the battle where Char earns his title in The Origin, but in 1979 we only hear about it and iirc there's much fewer "off model" moments in The Origin.
Amuro, furimukanaide...
Good luck with JR jr.
0083 next?
Does that chronologically happen after 0079?
@@jumpreport yes, Stardust Memory takes place in between 0079 and Zeta
0080 War In The Pocket next
Do the side stories next
Bomb démining episode
🐐 episode
The movies would probably be a quick video. Most of it is cannibalized footage from the series, but with some scenes that Yasuhiko was allowed to redraw to cover up for some of the worst of the off-model problems. The third movie seemed to have much of the work redrawn, and it fixes some of the pacing problems of the TV show. For example, the final episode of Gundam seems rushed, and while the third movie included most of the footage (some redrawn) of the final episode, having twenty minutes of a movie end it rather than having twenty minutes of a forty-some episode series end it, made the ending seem a lot less rushed and a lot more earned.
Also the movies (rather than the TV show) are basically canon for the rest of Universal Century Gundam shows going forward. In all the flashbacks, Sayla is in the core booster rather than the G-Fighter.
But you would probably have more fun going directly to Z-Gundam.
Let's gooo
53 mins? Jesus dude go to bed
Me in bed rn to you:
www.reddit.com/r/blursedimages/comments/gitv9f/blursed_donald_duck/?rdt=48569
Please do the movies next. It's the same story you've seen, but streamlined and less obliging to the toy company (no G-Fortress, for example). And while there is SOME new animation in the first and second movies, the third is (almost) entirely new animation... And it looks MUCH better than the series.
(Also, I know you started with the Origin, but as a long-time Gundam fan (I got into it as a kid in 1985), I ALWAYS recommend production order rather than chronological.)
Please watch zeta next
Is your username a DMC reference lol?
Gundam's animation being of questionable quality is in large part why a lot of Gundam fans want a remake similar to what Space Battleship Yamato got a couple of years ago. Sunrise keeps dangling the possibility of what a remake could look like since the late 90's, with remastered or reinterpreted scenes from MSG done with contemporary animation and a bigger budget -- that's not even including the Origins continuity.
That said, there are places where the art direction overcomes the clunkier animation. I particularly like the sense of isolation and claustrophobia MSG can elicit in its cockpit scenes, or the use of shadows to give a unique sense of depth to some of the scenes in outer space. It's just... pretty inconsistent all around.
Yeah the cockpit scenes + that bluish tint they’d sometimes use was a pretty memorable style of the show
Watch the movie trilogy first to see the difference and then Zeta Gundam for a darker sequel with 3 factions.
Yes Ryan, thank you Ryan
I'll have to disagree with another commenter and *strongly* recommend you watch the compilation movie trilogy. Unlike most compilation movies, the 0079 movies actually improve the story. In addition to reanimated parts to fix some of the worst animation errors, and a couple of extra scenes, they have some *very* good musical additions to make the soundtrack less repetitive.
The *BIG* improvement though is that the movies were made with a much stronger voice of Tomino and reduced influence from the toy company sponsors, since this was no longer a TV series that had to run commercials. A lot of the obvious toy gimmicks are removed. The Gundam Hammer is gone, the needlessly complicated G-parts are gone. The Gundam no longer uses a ridiculous rain poncho to survive atmospheric reentry. Many of the "monster of the week" enemies/toy commercials that don't affect the plot are removed (mostly the goofier ones). In addition a lot of the goofy slapstick is removed (though the inexplicable decision of the little kids remaining on the ship even after they reach Jaburo is retained, they get way less screen time).
All in all the movies give a sense of much better directorial authority and far less sense that the whole thing is a toy commercial.
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Actually it's not even a question at this point, since you've watched MSG, you're already OBLIGATED to watch Zeta!
Now watch Zeta!
Darling in the franxx is fine
sure it may have some crazy points in the story esp the ending parts
anyway my mom has watched it aswell and likes it so never trust the hate
i watchedf darling in the franxx i enjoyed it
Eva does not fall under real robot at all it is super robot, yes it’s dark but being dark doesn’t make it real robot, just that fact that it has angles immediately makes it super robot no real robot anime has monsters like that
Eva DN might fall under it though, have you seen that series?
Gunda's animation being bad is not really a hot take, it was considered pretty bad even when it came out.Also, whenyou say the end of gundam feels rushed, that's because it was, the show was cancelled 10 episodes early.
Tell that to @saturationstation1446 💀
@@jumpreport This fellow must either be in denial or Literally blind! As a huge fan of gundam the most generous thing I think I've every heard someone say about the original MSG's visuals is that they're "charming." Gundam is a show that looks like it was made on the cheep in the late fifties or early sixties that came out in the late seventies. It's poor visuals are commonly cited when discussing why the franchisor had such a difficult time gaining traction outside of japan.
Absolutely not! For the last seven years, we've been getting nothing but terrible shows. Where is the other part of Hathaway? What happened to Thunderbolt? What about a proper adaptation of F91 or Gundam: The Moon? There is so much potential for great stories, yet they keep ruining it. I really dislike Gundam G quaxxx. And before anyone criticizes me, think about it: Why would you waste a Zeon mobile suit against the Federation plot with elements from G Gundam? Why not create a show set 20 years later where Amuro's son or daughter joins a rebel group to overthrow Zeon? That would be so much better. And instead of giving us that destiny movie, why not give us Gundam astrasy then that shit. And witch of mercury was high mid, which isn't bad, but its mid
Don’t spoil too much bby girl I’ll get to them when I get to them, love you tho
Amuro is the most boring protagonist of all time, otherwise it’s good.
Who’s your favorite protagonist from a Gundam series?
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Now you can go watch zeta can let your brains explode , btw I watched it when I was 14 years old
Based 14 year old
I tried rewatching but the desert arc just made me not want to continue.
Exist a minor mistake about the canonicy of Origins, many people says its a alternative version of the Universal Century and the people are right about manga, the anime one makes changes match more with the anime continuity specifically the movie trilogy, so Origin its canon. Saying this the video was great, its a shame you can cover all the aspects of the show but its understandable since all topics to talk, one of my favorites characters is Dozle Zabi, in any other show this man probably the goofy villain but here a its competent commander who dies in one the most epic moment i ver see, you're supposition about Char are very in the line who what happens next to him but i don't want to spoil because Char its the caracther with more development in the franchise, only going to say the comparation with Big Boss are pretty accurate. The final thing to say, after the anime Tomino wrote a novel adaptation of the anime with all the elements he can't puts in the anime, for example Amuro and Sayla become a couple in the novel and Amuro pilots a second Gundam after the destruction of the RX-78-2 knows as the RX-78-3 or G3 Gundam for abbreviation. I really want to see you're through about next series and movies you're pretty awesome.
Thank you for the praises man. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for that additional info! What I liked about Dozle is they really humanize him with giving him a wife and kids. He’s not just a hulking angry dude and they show a side of kindness and humanity with him having a wife and kid who he seems to genuinely love
This not really a spoiler but his daughter Mineva become more important in future installments, the Zabi lineage is far from over ;)
Lol it will be interesting to see how the Zabi show up in future installments!
You should watch ideon if you want to see the REAL homework Anno copied lol
That might have to be a video entirely of its own separate to Gundam in the future
Bro you were soooo close but really messed up with the insertion of “focusing more on the characters” - Super robot shows also focused on the characters since the beginning! Even in Mazinger Z Kouji has to confront his responsibilities as the pilot of the only weapon which stands between peace and invasion of the evil ex-Nazi (no joke) scientist Dr Hell. This fake distinction dreamed up by western audience that super robot shows is not about the characters is fake. The of the two sub genres is actually very blurry, at most you can just say the super robot shows yells out their attacks.
Also Amuro and Lalah’s attraction is explained by their Newtype bond - you missed a huge part of Newtype “power” being that they can fully understand each other’s thought in like a vulcan mind meld on steroids, so when two Newtypes form this bond it’s like they instantly become soulmates for life, hence Amuro and Lalah were so attached to each other without having to “develop” their relationship in the traditional sense.
Also you should watch Zeta Gundam > ZZ Gundam and Char’s Counter Attack which is the release order and are all written by Tomino. Don’t watch chronological order since shows like 08th MS Team and 0083 are like side quests and not written by Tomino and will only distract from Tomino’s core message.
Did you not see my section covering DN?
@ I haven’t seen anything in this video which addresses my point above.
Thoughts on the DN part though?
Next what you gonna watch first is next gonna be like another place on one year war or you going to uc0080 war in the pocket
0079 is hard wall for anyone who is interested in UC Gundam. For me, the novels, books and mangas are the way to go (Especially the Origins). Bandai should be pressed to reanimate the entire series because we are approaching 50 years at this point, and the animation flaws and lack of budget at the time are VERY apparent despite the compelling narrative of MSG.