Ep.2.35 "Roddenberry: The Next Generation" with Rod Roddenberry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- THIS IS A RECAP OF ROD RODDENBERRY'S LIVE APPEARANCE ON OCTOBER 4, 2023 (which is exclusively available to our Patreon & TH-cam Members).
It's season 2, episode 35. Rod Roddenberry, son of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, and his awesome dog Nuke came and had a live conversation with Dominic, Connor, Erica, and Mark about life, hope, and Trek.
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CONNOR TRINNEER
DOMINIC KEATING
ERICA LAROSE
MARK CARTIER
SPECIAL GUESTS
ROD RODDENBERRY
PRODUCED BY
MARK CARTIER
PRODUCERS
CHRIS MOSCATIELLO
ERICA LAROSE
D.R. TIBBITS
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS
CONNOR TRINNEER
DOMINIC KEATING
MARK CARTIER
DIRECTED BY
MARK CARTIER
TECHNICAL DIRECTOR
KEVIN MCMAHON
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
NATHAN MCCOY
PRODUCTION ASSISTANT
MARC YURRI
EDITOR
NATHAN MCCOY
PRODUCTION AUDIO
CHRIS MOSCATIELLO
POST AUDIO SERVICES
NORTHERN LIGHTS PRODUCTIONS
SOCIAL MEDIA & COMMUNITY MANAGER
ALINA "NINA" BIRLEANU
TRIVIA SEGMENT COURTESY OF
ZACH EAGLE & CHRIS HODGIN of THE RANDOM REDSHIRT PODCAST
STYLIST
JOBER VELASCO
WARDROBE FOR ERICA LAROSE
DRESS BY WILLOW & WIND
“AT THE COSPLAY HOP”
WRITTEN BY GARY GRAHAM
PERFORMED BY THE SONS OF KIRK
GARY GRAHAM - VOCALS, GUITAR
MIKE THOMPSON - LEAD GUITAR
MARC RIVERA - BASS GUITAR
NEIL MURZINOWSKI - DRUMS
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Love seeing how passionate Rod became for the philosophy of Trek. It's the same thing that drew me to it later in life. Beautiful work all!
Well said! Thank you!
How you don´t have hundreds of thousands of subs is beyond me, you are the best Trek show on the net!!! Congrats and also live long and prosper.
Wow, thank you!
I’ll drink to that.
I'm assuming more people listen to podcasts on other platforms.
Yes, but not too many. Also, we are a TH-cam show and don't spend hardly any time focusing on the audio podcast side, for various reasons, not the least of which is time & money. But we hope to, one day!@@iambear.6526
46:55 ...lovely, inspiring, heartwarming, hopeful... keep on keeping on!
Amazing to hear Rod Roddenberry!!
Thanks again for this @ShuttlepodShow !! We appreciate of love y'all for all you do!
Thank you Dave!
"We're having a ball, it's Star Trek y'all!" 🎶
Lol! It's a banger. What does he sing after that? It sounds like "If there's Uhura, beam me up"... I don't know if he's aware of it yet, but Gary Graham has agreed to perform "Baby Scott Bakula" once I've finished writing the lyrics.
@@annika_panicka I've been wondering what the next line is too. I thought it sounded like horta or vorta lol
@@annika_panickaI've been wondering every time too and the only thing I can think of is maybe " .. if it's an order, beam me up"
Hey there in Florida, Beam Me Up?
I loved watching it again! One still finds something that one has not really understood because of the linguistic barrier.😉Thank you all! 🖖🏼💛🌻
Margit you are rad!
Listening now! I've been out of town running around, but I'm finally back home. Thanks guys!
Welcome back! And thank you for the support!
What a fantastic interview - thank you so much all of you! Rod is such an interesting, thoughtful, generous and empathetic person. And excellent research Dom! Great episode :D
This was a great interview, Rod comes off like a very down to earth and relaxed dude. Handled all the questions about his parents with grace and a sprinkling of humour. Dom certainly did a massive amount of homework for this one, didn't he? (I say this with love of course.) Not gonna lie though, I'm proud of myself for getting all the trivia questions right despite just guessing a few of them. Thanks for sharing this recap with us guys! ☺🖖🍃
Thank you! Hahaha… nice work on trivia. We can be friends!
@@ShuttlepodShow Most definitely! Friendship unlocked!
I heard Rod existed because of his documentary TREK NATION in 2011. Its still my favorite of any of Trek docus.
I like this dude. He has a good head on his shoulders.
Yes he does! And quite honest in his answers and conversation. I'm glad he's got a seat at the Trek creative table.
Agreed, he's always sounded honest and straightforward with his views and opinions
Rod is great! I completely understand his take on the seperation of gene's type of star trek Vs just star trek 100% exactly how I feel about the new shows Vs the old.
Well done guys for another great show!
Well spoken and presented. I can only hope that if given an opportunity to speak of my father in such a venue....that I could do as well. Also...I was certified for scuba in 1983...:) And...ALL trek is good Trek!
#alltrekisgoodtrek
I was born during the second season of TOS back in the 60s. I grew up watching the reruns of TOS. Star Trek Enterprise was the second best series in my opinion to TOS. It should have went seven years!!!
Great show.
Great show guys.fascinating conversation,but humorous as well.i think the shows just now are incredible.Picard, Discovery,Strange New Worlds,and the effects now are jaw dropping!Rod seems a genuineally nice guy.The Shuttlepod show itself I think is excellent.
Agreed and thank you!
✋😁 Hi! I'm happy to see Rod again.
I love this show!!!!!!!! I've been a Trek kid from 1966
What an intelligent, charming, down-to-earth, realistic (yet imaginative) fellow. Hopefully he and Nuk will return for another scintillating conversation. 🖖 The Rodigal Son Returns...
Love this comment!!
Yes!
Hi how are you hope to see your reply from you soon Annika take care
Thank You shuttlepod show 🎉🎉
Rod Roddenberry , very happy to see you in an interview , , ,im glad you are rediscovering StarTrek, , , ,TOS was great ,was always obsessed with TNG (I was 9 years old in 1987 ) i was interested in ST-DS9 but i gave up on it after the half-point of DS9's series run , , writing was too dismal , , , i sometimes enjoyed ST-Voyager , i enjoyed it a lot more when Kes was gone , much better after that , , ,i gave Enterprise a 50-50 fair shot first 6 episodes seemed good , Dr Sam Beckett LEAPED into the body of a Starfleet Captain , so i knew it would be interesting , , , but the first time Enterprise showed a Romulan , exit stage left , , ,i wiped my hands of it , , , ,a mistake Enterprise can't comeback from , , ,if you are nearly as well versed in TOS lore as i am , you understand immediately why that was a huge no no , , , , i currently have no interest in any Matalas , Kurtzman ,or JJ Abrams "Trek" projects , , , ,so future of TREK is up in the air ,pun intended, , , hopefully something promising will somehow make it through ,🖖😸🖖
Credit to Rod Roddenberry for showing respect to his dad but also not putting him on a pedestal and acknowledging the very real human being he was, for better or worse
Love tye show
Definitely a rewatch
I watched Star Trek:ToS during its maiden run. Then I watched it over and over in re-runs until I had each of the characters lines memorized. I still watch it, but as the years went by, Star Trek became more and more important to me. I don't care what shows they make I will watch them. Although, I have asked and been rebuked about starting Enterprise up again.
Question: Whatever happened with the 360-degree camera Rod was developing and promoting quite a few years back?
Good news everyone (if it's true) lots of sites are reporting Star Trek Prodigy Season 2 has been picked up by Netflix.
Is this a second serving of Rod, or a reup of the one from a while back?
This is a recap of the live show from October 4, 2023 - which is now exclusively available to our Patreon & TH-cam Members
oh ok i was wondering @@ShuttlepodShow
"It's god given." Ironic 💖
wooooooooooo!
Hampshire College!!! I always thought there was a little Shaggy in him
40:36 To 40:54: Now thats the Roddenberry vision of Star Trek right there.
Hello 4th cousin Rod Roddenberry (we share GGGG grandfather Richard Roddenberry).
I dig this guy...plus he's a Motley Crue fan.
😊
Bedankt
Thank you!
Really great interview! But Dom, you're back to talking over guests again bud.
No, he is talking over a guest again, "again" as this is a repeat/ re-aired/ greatest hits/ condensed version of the interview.
On the up-side, he interrupts less because it's a shorter version of the original 🤣
He can't stand to let anyone else complete a sentence
They can solve the issue of Trip’s untimely death with dialogue. Maybe on Lower Decks or somewhere else, “Commander Riker reprogrammed the scenarios.” Also, it was a show within a show. Therefore it introduces the element of the unreliable narrator.
Just give Trip a "robot body". Just like they did in Picard season 2 when "space orchids" were attacking??? Ha ha ha.
Yes, you read those two weird sentences. Not only are they true, it's exactly what happened in the show.
I would just ignore the whole last episode of ENT and assume they kept on going. Then they can come up with an original and meaningful finale.
This is simply BRILLIANT!
Hey running off for the bday see you soon
Happy Birthday!
@@ShuttlepodShow thank you!!! I made it
Hi, maybe someone can help me, I'm looking for a clip of a Star Trek episode and I can't find it even though I've watched all the movies and series. At that time there was on TH-cam, I can no longer find it. You can see officers as they open a kind of shaft and suddenly come many small creatures, look like fish and lay completely over the body of an officer who was in the shaft. At some point his body disappears and the other officers flee into a turbolift.
The one with the Horta?
@@viborgvee8399 No, its not the episode.
Dom, your guest is there to tell the story not to listen to you recount your pre show homework studies. Please learn how to interview and ask leading questions not show off. Love, your fans!
Im sorry to say but i m not sure if the fella who plays tucker is the same fella who hosts this show..i am a fan off all star treks especially next generation...ive seen most at 3 or 4 times each episode and series...but tucker from enterpise my all time faveeoute charctor....chit ending for him...chit theme tune...to enterprise which in humble opion started it on the wrong foot...but other than that love it all ❤
Hahaha... I assure you, Connor Trinneer, who played Trip Tucker on Enterprise, is a host of our show. He'll get a kick out of this one... hahaha. Thanks for being here!
Thanks for the response lol but tucker better than data that says alot😁
Plus a pleasure to watch your shows....can ya delve deeper into the probs with aveary and mullgrew on there resptective shows lol
@@ShuttlepodShowI'm still convinced it's a hot Lady named Erica and 2 clever Boom mic operators , 🖖😸🖖
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#987 - Shall we?! So be it!
46:05 Really hope they're not talking about DIE - Diversity Inclusion Equity, where the most qualified person for the job doesn't get it due to _ism's._
It's terrifying when the bar has been lowered so much (along with DIE) with commercial airline pilots, surgeons, lawyers....it's a death sentence. Anyways, again, I really hope that's not what they mean by that.
Arrogance is a pitfall.
Everybody has to learn it eventually.
Kennedy was arrogant enough to think that she could fix it or whatever she was thinking.
Lucas was arrogant enough to think he could sell it and and they not wipe their ass on it.
1:11:52 - I don't see the optimism, positivity, better humanity in Rod's version of "Star Trek". I feel like those are all of the things you stripped out of it for the sake of action, and sparkle.
Makes sense coming from someone who admitted when he was younger how he didn't like Star Trek much, how Star Wars was more his thing.
His wallet would disagree. It has optimism, positivity and better humanity in Rod's version of Star Trek compared to when it was not.
This is Hollywood speak. They have a different language out-there. The have pre-approved language that keeps them in good standings and employed.
You and I know that Disco and SNW have nothing to do with pre 2005 Trek or Gene Rodenberry's vision. Rod knows it and to and to be fair, he is an "executive producer". He doesn't decide what New Trek is. They pay him to use his family name to give the show credibility.
It's like a "Iso 9001" certification or an "ESG score" for companies.
@@iix23 Exactly. They emphasize the "mirror universe" storyline in new "Trek" because that is where they live...in their global-corpratist world where money and power is king, and all of the philosophical and ontological lessons have been stripped away. Moreover, and worse yet, those lessons have become weapons of propaganda and indoctrination.
Spock came back from dead, so trip can.
I'm trying to get caught up on past episodes here. I like to take a minute to mention how great Dominic is at researching.
Ah I miss bcoz battery low
@1hr15ish: To err is to be human; to try and cover it up, like a one legged cat in a litter tray, is to be a politician…
More seriously, at that timestampish; inre engaging in emotionally intense debate, it’s the difference between responding and reacting: vitriol is in the reaction, whereas the solution tends to come from a response.
(or something slightly less pretentiously worded)
I think you'd have more subscribers if you push visibility. I found out about you via the algorithm. Has anyone been on The Ready Room with Wil Wheaton - if nothing more than the publicity. You've got a great channel here.
This is excellent advice. We are actively looking to book our team on other shows now that we think we have a handle on what we are doing. Any tips anyone has to grow our show- send them our way!! Thank you
Replace dominic keating with Robert Picardo
"I'm an actor; - Not and extra." - R. Picardo
I love TNG, VOY, DS9, ENT!!! Love...love...them.
Discovery (STD) is like Star Trek on dilithium-crystal-meth, and not in a good way. Is there a good way? No. It is so poorly written that they’ve spent $1.2 trillion on CGI (more or less), per episode, to cover up the lack of character depth. It looks cool at times, but overall it's too much! It's not tactful. It's like living with a hoarder --crap everywhere. Clean this crap up! ...or at least make a path so we can get to the escape pods. Seriously! Where's the exploration, lessons of morality, ethics, camaraderie? If I want to see a dystopian reality I'll turn on mainstream news.
If you want to watch endless Michael Burnham monologues, unending battles, immature characters cracking jokes at serious moments, ridiculously extravagant "Klingons," but zero storyline or character development-enjoy! It’s like having a diet made up of purely cotton candy. Feed me something real!!!
They weren't perfect, but please bring back some of the rich stories and characters reminiscent of TNG, VOY, DS9, and ENT. 🖖
STD is the Michael Burnham show. Did TNG only focus on Data? Did VOY only focus on Paris? No, and no. And at least those were good characters. Michael Burnham is an egocentric glory seeker who feigns humility; albeit poorly.
Another disgusting tactic of the writers is how they try too hard to be relevant by including every cliche character. This isn't forward thinking, it's poor writing, and lack of imagination.
Okay, with all that said, occasionally I see glimpses of something that reminds me of Star Trek, which gives me hope, but then the glimpse fades away in a series of unending Burnham monologues; irrelevant, racially charged language; and predictable “twists”. 🤦♂
Voyager did focus very heavily on Seven after she showed up. There was barely a plot for the rest of the series that didn't involve her.
But for the sake of conversation, have you seen any of the other 'new' Trek series?
I find Lower Decks to be the best new ST show. Picard season 3 and Strange New Worlds were decent as well.
So, there is a glimmer of hope and still some good Star Trek episodes being made at least.
Yeah, you are limited to $500.00 on sending super chats on TH-cam in one day..
Life is so unfair...
I think Discovery is one of the least Trek of all treks. I think Gene would not approve.
29:22 is why I stopped listening a while ago. Dominic just won’t stop interrupting non stop. It comes off as self important. Stop. My god!
Im very disappointed with Rod Roddenberry. Kurtzman and JJ Abrams have destroyed his father’s legacy. He should be either angry, ashamed or both. The fans always express their disdain (thats a nice way to put it) for the modern, juvenile, unintelligent drivel they pass of as Star Trek. When they asked him to join the writing/production team, they only did it as a symbolic gesture, as a way to deceive fans: ‘there’s a Roddenberry involved, so the fans will except whatever we give them’. Rod is a coward, Im sorry. He should have publicly and passionately rebuked a debounced modern Star Trek. Kurtzman doesn’t understand how to make it, and he can’t now because there’s probably a NDA having basically a gag order. He should have said ‘no way’ and blasted Kurtzman, JJ and Paranount for destroying Gene Roddenberry’s legacy. I love the Shuttlepod Show. But to me, its hard to have a fun time on a podcast while your laughing and having a good time, they are giving a middle finger to his dad. Such a disgraceful disappointment.
It’s not that deep dude. Get over it.
Besides, it has an easy fix. Don’t watch it. Simple.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and taste. But what we don’t do is bash something that brings other people joy (and that has brought so many new people to the fandom and the Trek community) just because we don’t like it/agree with it. And to add to that, nor do we straight up attack Rod for keeping his father’s legacy alive. Just because something is different it doesn’t mean it’s bad 🤷🏻♀️
In the wise words of the wonderful Nana Visitor, “it may not be your trek, but it is someone else’s”.
Plus, gatekeeping doesn’t bring anything to the community other than toxicity, and that’s a fact.
@@ninaleftthechat”its not that deep dude”. Yeah. I figured I’d get this response from some people. It IS deep, especially if you have been watching Star Trek for over 40 years. Star Trek by definition IS DEEP I ithink I know what Im talking about. What they are putting out bears zero resemblance to the thought-provoking, science fiction with philosophical and moral dilemmas to ponder. Just dont watch it? When you’ve loved something all your life and watch it being destroyed INTENTIONALLY, your darn right I’m pissed. This might not be the best analogy, but forgive me. Its off the cuff. If you’re watching a close family member meet a bunch of new friends, is introduced to drugs, and becomes an addict. You watch them destroy themselves and there’s nothing you can do about it. They are no longer the honest, smart, sophisticated person you remember. This is what most fans are going through. Myself included. Star Trek was the gold standard of intelligent science fiction. The “filet mignon” if you will. They’re dishing out McDonalds cheeseburgers and telling you its good when you know they’re full of shit.
@@ChrisS-no3ft as I said you have the right to be pissed, but once again nothing will ever stay the same. And bashing something that brings other people joy because “you” don’t agree with it is not the way to go.
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Not everything is made or created according to everyone’s taste.
As someone who’s watched Star Trek for 40 years, you can’t expect it to stay the same as it did well… 40 years ago. Times change, and so do audiences and content.
And legacy Trek isn’t without fault either, just saying.
It is actually as simple as not watching it. No one is making you watch it. You can love a franchise and still not watch part of the content they release because it’s not your cup of tea and no one will hold that against you.
Also as someone who’s been watching Trek for 40 years you should be happy the franchise is still going and constantly bringing new and younger people to the fandom and the community, and putting out new shows that are securing the franchise’s longevity and presence in media for years to come.
And as far as Rod goes, he’s not his father (Gene, who was clearly ahead of his time with the universe he created for Star Trek, wasn’t a saint either) and this is not the 60s. Rod is keeping his father’s legacy alive and that’s more than enough. He could have just decided not to do any of it and there’d still be people bashing him for it anyway.
New Trek is still Trek despite there being people who may not like it. Trek values, principles and message are still there, though the format may have changed and adapted to modern times and themes.
I may have only been a trek fan for about 14 years, but if JJ wouldn’t have done something right I wouldn’t have gone and watched everything that came before to know more about it. If Kurtzman wouldn’t have done something right newer fans wouldn’t be doing the same and keeping Legacy Trek alive.
If any of the new Trek wouldn’t have done something right, Legacy Trek wouldn’t have seen its audience grow thanks to streaming platforms and younger fans being introduced to said shows through newer ones.
If Trek has taught me something is that not everyone will like everything, and that is okay. But that despite that we can get along and respect each other’s choices without putting each other down or being nasty about it. Acceptance and respect are key. Ever more so if we want to keep the fandom and the community a positive place for everyone to enjoy.
I’d much rather have new content, than no content and a dead franchise and fandom.
#AllTrekIsGoodTrek #IDIC
@@ninaleftthechatSorry Nina, they’ve deleted my response three times already lol. So I’ll make this brief. It’s obvious that we’re gonna disagree on a lot of points but as a Star Trek fan, the most honorable thing to do is wish you well. Safe travels my friend. Hope this doesn’t get deleted. 🖖🏼
And it just occurred to me because I do this with things all the time and mostly people don't get it I will however let it into the world if someone else hasn't which I would be surprised see if you get this play on two things which make complete sense as humorous if that person finds the statement humorous- "But it wasn't a ROCK, it was a ROCK MONSTER, rock monster..."
I have the best resolution as how to continue Enterprise with trip not dying if you remember Dallas as I do I was a child I saw in the episode where Pamela Ewing wakes up in bed with Bobby Ewing previously Bobby had been killed and the way to bring him back to the series without him ever actually leaving was by Pamela having a nightmare waking up Suddenly to Bobby in the shower they have Sonic showers in the future and to T'Pol would be great waking up with a nightmare very very logically concerning nightmare. Ps, being the age that I am I also remember the smokers toothpaste Topol, which was mildly annoying at times- that someone gave her THAT name. LOL mabe P' Almolive?