I have these exacts boots... DO NOT use dubbin on them. I followed this video, got some dubbin, applied it as per the videos instructions.... it totally changed the colour and finish of the crazy horse leather. Also got the 1460s in crazy horse & learnt all you need to do to maintain this kind of leather is wipe it with a damp cloth to clean them up... and apply a good quality leather conditioner SPARINGLY once in a while when you notice the leather becoming dry. Hopes this helps someone else avoid ruining their boots haha.
I have this exact boot. And they get scuffed regularly. The dubbing protects the leather. And yes it goes a bit darker, but worth it to protect the leather.
Other recommendations suggest rubbing the dubbin in then waiting 30 mins then a good rub down with a cloth, otherwise dust and dirt just attracts the boot..
the reason i love crazy horse is because of the wear / patina... polishing it away hurts my heart. i love my gauchos all scuffed scratched patchy and soft and worn
I cringed when I saw it being slathered on like that. You’re supposed to use it extremely sparingly, or the leather becomes so softened that it is weakened. It is almost as if Doctor Martens don’t care about our potentially having to buy tonnes of dubbin and prematurely wearing out our Docs! ;)
So the leather keeps its strength if you use it sparingly? You only risk more damage by using more? I just got some Doc Martens for the first time and am wondering about the treatment process.
@@frankyramone well, I’m not an expert, but I’ve read in various places that dubbin can decondition the leather if used regularly in excess - I’m guessing it gets oversaturated, and thus oversoftened? I would use it occasionally (opinion varies on how often, but I do about once a month), and a thin layer is all you need - just as long as you can see you’ve applied it to an area, that is enough - you’re not putting buttercream on a cake. Also, wonder balsam is good to keep the leather soft, and prevent cracking. I had a pair of Docs for years that I never bothered to treat, because I thought it wouldn’t make a difference, but it did, and the leather is now quite cracked in places. So, I’d say definitely don’t overdo, but underdoing could be even worse. Also, as others have commented, do NOT use dubbin on the type of leather shown in the video.
Can I use this with EMBURY LEATHER CASUAL CHELSEA BOOTS Wyoming black since it has more of a matte finish? How can I clean/take care of these? I wiped off some dirt with a wet towel and now I have a white spot and it looks faded. It looks like some of the color came off. They are brand new and have only been used twice
@@jrod3868 I’m by no means an expert- just someone who had both and didn’t like the idea of wasting them 😄 But the miracle balsam thing is for nourishing and dubbin for protection is my understanding. It does change the colour though to darken them although mine has already lightened you a bit in the week since I did it 👍🏼
so what's the different between dubbin and wonder balsam? i have several pairs of smooth leather and just bought a krazi horse. can dubbin and wonder balsam use on both of different leather?
Are they a dyed leather or are they an oiled or waxed leather? If they are dyed, then you can use a simple spray protectant which shouldn't darken them or change the color. If they are waxed or oiled then you want to identify the appropriate protectant from the available Dr. Martens products and use it as directed.
@@leonardo3483 -- yes, oiled and waxed leathers need to be moisturized to retain their look and finish. Dyed leathers with glossy finishes require polish to maintain their finish; quality polish also moisturizes the leather to prevent cracking. There are many shoe care videos that speak to this.
Came here for the same reason. Lol. I think gaucho and crazy horse are not the same material,though. My crazy horse chelsea isn't shiny out of the box.
You can but it will leave a dark and shiny gloss. I use wonder balsam for my crazy horse chelsea. Leaves it looking a little dark and shiny. But it protects the leather and removes scuff marks.
This comment is about a year too late but I hope it helps somewhat still. Dubbin is different than mink oil. Wonder Balsam is more comparable. Dubbin is used mainly to waterproof the boot, but isn't that good at moisturizing the leather (only using dubbin will actually shorten the lifespan of the boot). Wonder Balsam and mink oil helps get that moisture back into the boot but again, shouldn't be used too much because if the leather is too soft it will destroy itself faster. Using a good balance of both will give you the best results for the boot.
That seemed like WAY TOO MUCH dubbin. You only need a thin layer, you'll end up having to wipe off the excess if you apply so much. Probably intentional to sell you more dubbin 🤷🏽♀️
I dub my docs soon as I get them, helps smooth the leather. I use a thin layer because that's what it says to use on the jar.
This says to apply dubbin generously but literally everything else I've seen says to apply it as sparingly as possible so who's right
generously so you go and buy more wax...
@@reecebuckle397 you damn right
Yeah just dab a little at a time onto your finger and rub it in, repeat to cover the whole boot.
I have these exacts boots... DO NOT use dubbin on them. I followed this video, got some dubbin, applied it as per the videos instructions.... it totally changed the colour and finish of the crazy horse leather.
Also got the 1460s in crazy horse & learnt all you need to do to maintain this kind of leather is wipe it with a damp cloth to clean them up... and apply a good quality leather conditioner SPARINGLY once in a while when you notice the leather becoming dry.
Hopes this helps someone else avoid ruining their boots haha.
You did! Thank you!!! 😅 😮💨
This video shows the before and after colour change. The boots aren't ruined, it's a feature not a bug and they'll age back to the lighter colour.
I have this exact boot. And they get scuffed regularly. The dubbing protects the leather. And yes it goes a bit darker, but worth it to protect the leather.
You are supposed to use dubbin on this kind of leather. What you described is what is supposed to happen
What is a good quality leather conditioner?
Other recommendations suggest rubbing the dubbin in then waiting 30 mins then a good rub down with a cloth, otherwise dust and dirt just attracts the boot..
No they want to sell you more products
I did the same was still tacky after a day
Took my doc martens through pretty much everything for the last 3 years, held up like a champ
That's a short time not long at all
the reason i love crazy horse is because of the wear / patina... polishing it away hurts my heart. i love my gauchos all scuffed scratched patchy and soft and worn
I have not polished mine in ... I think 5 years 😢 they look good and scuffed and soft. 😂
Question? Is it possible that both balsams and dubbin using at the same time?
I cringed when I saw it being slathered on like that. You’re supposed to use it extremely sparingly, or the leather becomes so softened that it is weakened. It is almost as if Doctor Martens don’t care about our potentially having to buy tonnes of dubbin and prematurely wearing out our Docs! ;)
its win-win for them: more shoe care products sold and more boots sold aswell haha
So the leather keeps its strength if you use it sparingly? You only risk more damage by using more? I just got some Doc Martens for the first time and am wondering about the treatment process.
@@frankyramone well, I’m not an expert, but I’ve read in various places that dubbin can decondition the leather if used regularly in excess - I’m guessing it gets oversaturated, and thus oversoftened? I would use it occasionally (opinion varies on how often, but I do about once a month), and a thin layer is all you need - just as long as you can see you’ve applied it to an area, that is enough - you’re not putting buttercream on a cake. Also, wonder balsam is good to keep the leather soft, and prevent cracking. I had a pair of Docs for years that I never bothered to treat, because I thought it wouldn’t make a difference, but it did, and the leather is now quite cracked in places. So, I’d say definitely don’t overdo, but underdoing could be even worse.
Also, as others have commented, do NOT use dubbin on the type of leather shown in the video.
If it has petroleum like kiwi products then it will decondition and ruin the leather over time. Saphir brand polish is a better choice.
Absolutely agree. This is a blatant marketing post by DM. You don’t need anything like that much
It's way easier to apply dubbin with a shoe brush.
Dubbin and Mink oil will radically alter the colour of your boots. Get something that won't make your boots darker in colour.
Which is what?
nothing XD@@theempath8295
Can I use this with EMBURY LEATHER CASUAL CHELSEA BOOTS Wyoming black since it has more of a matte finish? How can I clean/take care of these? I wiped off some dirt with a wet towel and now I have a white spot and it looks faded. It looks like some of the color came off. They are brand new and have only been used twice
Which one to use? Dubbin or wonder balsam?
Dubbin
I used both- wonder balsam yesterday and dubbin tomorrow, one nourishes and softens the leather while the other protects them a bit more.
@@manuel_winde so we can use both at the same time? which one is for nourishment and which one is for protection?
@@jrod3868 I’m by no means an expert- just someone who had both and didn’t like the idea of wasting them 😄
But the miracle balsam thing is for nourishing and dubbin for protection is my understanding. It does change the colour though to darken them although mine has already lightened you a bit in the week since I did it 👍🏼
@@manuel_winde thanks for the input! Will try both of them out.
the dubbin hurts my fingers when i pop it open… im struggling trying to open it.
Use a knife to open it one time and it should be easier after that
🙄
so what's the different between dubbin and wonder balsam?
i have several pairs of smooth leather and just bought a krazi horse.
can dubbin and wonder balsam use on both of different leather?
Now this is obviously an advertisement to your line of leather care products, but what makes them stand out in the market?
i have a matte browm dm's, what kind of dm's polish im going to use?
I just bought a pair of purple and a pair of blue. What's the best way to moisturize them without darkening them? Thank you.
Are they a dyed leather or are they an oiled or waxed leather? If they are dyed, then you can use a simple spray protectant which shouldn't darken them or change the color. If they are waxed or oiled then you want to identify the appropriate protectant from the available Dr. Martens products and use it as directed.
how do i fix cat scratches on my chelsea black leather boots ????
You can’t unless you get them fixed at a shoe repair
Dubbin your boots then get rid of the cat 😾
Can i use the dubbin in my 1461 white smooth leather?
Do you recommend using polish first?
That’s my question too.
Dubbin is for waxed or oiled leather. Polish is for dyed leather.
@@ML-xh6rd are you sure?
@@leonardo3483 -- yes, oiled and waxed leathers need to be moisturized to retain their look and finish. Dyed leathers with glossy finishes require polish to maintain their finish; quality polish also moisturizes the leather to prevent cracking. There are many shoe care videos that speak to this.
@@ML-xh6rd I didn't know any of this things, thank you
can you use on the smooth leather archies
How long does it take to dry off?
Give it 30-45mins
O don't know
Is the Dubbin Wax can be used for Crazy Horse/Gaucho Docs ?
I also want to know this. Just got my first pair, and also got the care kit. The employee recommended it, but I want to make sure.
Came here for the same reason. Lol. I think gaucho and crazy horse are not the same material,though. My crazy horse chelsea isn't shiny out of the box.
Yeah you can
You can but it will leave a dark and shiny gloss. I use wonder balsam for my crazy horse chelsea. Leaves it looking a little dark and shiny. But it protects the leather and removes scuff marks.
The dude literally used those boots in the video, check 0:33
Is Dubbin the same as mink oil?
I like mink oil better
This comment is about a year too late but I hope it helps somewhat still. Dubbin is different than mink oil. Wonder Balsam is more comparable. Dubbin is used mainly to waterproof the boot, but isn't that good at moisturizing the leather (only using dubbin will actually shorten the lifespan of the boot). Wonder Balsam and mink oil helps get that moisture back into the boot but again, shouldn't be used too much because if the leather is too soft it will destroy itself faster. Using a good balance of both will give you the best results for the boot.
Is it normal to be sticky
I've got a pair of black greasy boots, what should I use, wonder balsam or dubbin?
Both. Apply wonder balsam, leave for a few hours then apply a coat of dubbin on top
Is this a Guy Richie music video 😂🎉
That seemed like WAY TOO MUCH dubbin. You only need a thin layer, you'll end up having to wipe off the excess if you apply so much. Probably intentional to sell you more dubbin 🤷🏽♀️