Headed out for the first big hunt of the year.. hope you all are getting dialed in and feeling confident heading into the Fall.. I’ll be off the grid for a bit.. appreciate y’all!! ✊🏹 now go shoot your bow
I HAVE HUNTED AND SHOT ARCHERY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I WISH I HAD THE INFORMATION YEARS AGO THAT I GET FROM WATCHING JOSH JONES, I LEARN SO MUCH FROM YOUR VIDEO'S . I WAS SELF TAUGHT AND RELIZE NOW THAT I HAD MANY FLAWS IN MY TECHNIQUE , PRATICING WRONG TECHNIQUES NEVER MAKES IT CORRECT. THANKS FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME.
Man, thank goodness for TH-cam and podcasts! Back in the late 1900’s, telling my age, you had to know someone who knew something in order to get the information that is being seen by thousands now on these platforms! We were told that the broadheads just shot different than your field tips, typically high and right, so you just re-sighted in your bow to your broadheads when it got close to season. Sure wish we had known better! So thank you for providing this resource of knowledge. I’m really enjoying both of your guy’s channels and the wood stove conversations!
One of the most comprehensive broadhead tuning videos out there. Thank you. Been going through all this again over the last few weeks getting ready for this season and had to cycle through about 6 other videos from other TH-camrs to get all the info that y’all put in this one. Also had to sift through a couple other videos that have the horizontal rest adjustment backwards. The method you described is absolutely correct. If someone has to do the exact opposite, go back to square 1, something’s up with that setup. Timing out, wrong arrow spine, etc. Question: do you like the high roller target? I need to replace my 18-1 (no complaints on it) but have been looking at the high roller. Specifically for broad heads.
thank goodness for you and MFJJ Been saying for years that a perfectly tuned bow is when broadheads and fieldpoints hit in the same place .. Great video great information
In the All Broadhead Tuning Questions video by Elkshape last year, MFJJ said if the broadhead hits left, move the rest right; the opposite of this video. Did what he said in this video and my BH and FP touch. But it makes my paper tune off. Can't have both a great paper tune and BH tune on my bow for some reason...probably just me. So I'm prioritizing the BH tune over the paper. Hopefully that pans out
Going through the same thing right now, im out of time. Home gamer setup in my workshop. Appreciate the people we watch for info going through the same thing
Listen, Tim, this Josh golfing idea is the best content idea you've had! You absolutely must do a driving range swing workshop for him or a series of lessons... It'd be hilarious and really good for people getting into golf!
This is a great video and thanks for doing it! I've finally got my brodheads hitting with field points but it's been a frustrating journey to get there. I think this will help lots of folks like me that like to Woonsocket our own stuff!
Nice video! Also guys, keep in mind there’s always the factor of human error. I know the goal is to make them hit exactly the same every time you shoot but it’s difficult to do that constantly without having some flyers right. I’d say start fresh (rest) after doing this excersice for a long time and then try again, then when you think you got it right, rest again and try it the next day to see if your first two shots (arrows) are touching, this is when I’d call it good.
No lie I just had to reference the video today and I fixed my broadheads being 4 inches right because of y’all’s whiteboard explanation! Thanks again! I’m only 4 months into compound archery so it was my first time shooting any broadhead.
Litterally battling these things now and these are great nuggets! I'm headed to the bow shop in the am, but now i have a feeling i know exactly what i need them to check. Good luck on the hunt and thanks for the vid.
Cool video tim. I just broadhead tuned my V3X 29 .at my archery club. I have the NAP HELLRAZOR fixed blade flying great. I cant wait for the season to start in September
Honestly the only ones I’ve seen close to as good as JJ is the Bow and Arrow shop dude from Bow Disciples. It’s hard to find that level of knowledge anywhere.
I haven’t seen a pro shop with even half of the knowledge Josh has in over 20 years. Nobody seems to care enough about their job, and your equipment to take any of the proper tuning steps. They take a bow out of the box, slap accessories on, tie a peep and d loop, and send you on your way. The only way we can get the most out of our equipment, is to either buy the press and draw board and do our own work, or drive to Washington and ask for MFJJ. Lol It’s sad and frustrating, but we all need to learn to work on our own bows
Great job on the video. It’s videos like this that has helped me build my setups and get incrementally better at it. Saved the video because I know I’ll have to come back to it again. Now if I could just kill a buck with a bow, that’d be great.
I went the bareshaft route just for the sake of shooting my broadheads less. I got the bareshaft paper tare down to a quater inch. First shot with the broadhead came out an inch low at 30 yards. So both definitely work
Very confused on the L/R movement. This is the opposite of everything I have heard and I don't understand why it would be different that the vertical adjustments.
I thought the same, but it worked for me yesterday. No idea why it is, but that's what it be. My fieldpoints and broadheads now fly beautifully together out to 40. Broadheads first though 😂
Clean design and a sharp tip which is crucial. Many mechanicals don't have a sharp tip. Like Rage NC. They need to be hand shapered. That's what I do, and the blades. "STAY SHARP JIG"
I’m am confused on the order of operations… so I am going to assume the order goes something like this.. setup bow and eye everything to square.. then sight in enough to get on target at 20-30 yards.. then broadhead tune followed up by 1st/2nd/3rd axis shoot in adjustments? Also should you try this with multiple broadheads and what broadheads are recommended for tuning if you plan to shoot mechanicals with smaller vanes. I’m just not sure my smaller vanes will stabilize a fixed blade to begin with.
Tim, I do this all the time too.. you definitely weren't even shooting crappy, maybe one was on the outer edge of the dot!!! Don't hold yourself to such high standards because its not possible to be PERFECT! Good luck on your first hunts!!
Great video Tim and MFJJ I need to start getting my bow broad head tuned. I am however really happy i bought that big high roller target today. looks like it can take a beating.
I was hitting broadhead left and when I moved my rest to the left it got worse, had a weird kick out on the back of the arrow, I think the fletching was hitting the side of the drop away housing because then, after I sent an arrow into the forest, I moved it back to the right I had the broadhead and field point hitting in the same hole.
Can y'alls please do a video on grip, grip pressure, what 'adverse heel pressure' is, etc.? I'm struggling with tail left tears and feel it's my grip but I can't figure it out.
Sweet vid! Helped me a lot! Curious, when you feel good about field and BH placement, and call it good, do you assume then that the rest location is correct for all BH's of the same type and sight there after?!
I’ve learned over the years that it is better to work on this more than ONE shooting session. We all have better days than others so a few different day sessions will usually give you a better feedback. That’s obvious. And people don’t shoot their broad head’s enough for whatever reason. Buy more than one pack and shoot them. Things change and it’s vitally important to know that throughout the season your arrows are hitting BEHIND THE PIN!
Been a while since I had to broad head tune. Just got new strings and a sight. Thanks for the detailed video! How far back were you shooting the beginning st the dice?
Not gonna lie, I’ll take advantage of your code on Josh’s store as long as it’s available. Used it on my Bushnell Broadhead rangefinder a couple week’s ago. The price after the code was untouchable by any other shop or internet store
No more hand held release Tim? This clears up a lot of confusion on this process. After this there should be no reason to tweak the sight at all if its already dialed in previously?
I've always wondered, though, why no one shoots a field tip-arrow through paper after they've broadhead tuned their bow. To show if the tear is still a perfect bullet-hole. Just curious.
MFJJ If you took a bow that was tuned and shooting arrows with broadheads and practice tips in the same spot, then slightly moved the rest to the right and shot you would see the target tips hitting slightly right and broadheads hitting even farther right. You would not move the rest to the right to correct. It needs to move back to the left. Please explain.
Nice video! Tim's arrow looks a little short for my taste. Broadhead is right behind his fingers. If there is a failure of the rest or your drawing in a hurry and arrow bounces of the rest, that may be very bad. I like hunting arrows a little longer.
Good stuff man. I generally don’t have an issue getting B heads to hit with field points until I start to really stretch the yardage. That said, I’ve wondered at the process of bare shaft tuning and fletched arrow tuning through paper and then throwing that out the window for broadhead tuning. If I couldn’t get heads to fly with field points even though my bow was shooting bullets through paper, I would just use a different sight for broadheads. Anyways, who cares, I’m not a TH-camr. Good to see the joint custody of MFJJ is working out.
Tim, your shooting is looking really strong these days and looking even better since you got the Hoyt. Do you notice the difference since you got the new bow?
Just a try honest question I need an answer to. Does broadhead to fletching or vane alignment matter? I shoot field tips all year, then for hunting season I always buy new arrows square em up then fletch em aligned to the way the broadgeads are set in the insert....does Ant of this even matter?
Tim, ask Josh if he believes in setting the arrow rest right under the forward node of the arrow. I do that along with having the bow and arrows tuned. This usually gives me perfect broadhead flight.
That works pretty good thanks for the video the only problem is I didn't glue my insert good enough so I lost my expensive broadhead hard lesson learned😂😂😂
I'm relatively new to high-end compound bows. What is the point of doing the initial paper tune if you have to move the rest to tune the broadhead anyway? Also, if I were to dedicate my bow to only hunting, could I just tune to the broad heads only and not worry about field points? From what I could gather, you were tuning for a happy medium between the two? I've been watching a few of your videos, and they've been quite helpful, cheers!
Cool! Next time, try to shoot the bareshaft from 20m instead of broadhead, you will set it up even more accurately.Even better with 30m if you can.(Paige Pierce shoots a bareshaft from 60 yards by the way)
One must consider the abilities of the archer when broadhead tuning. You can’t just pick the one time someone hits the same hole and make your adjustment based on that one instance. For 90%+ archers, being within an inch of one another would be close enough as they’re likely not consistently capable of a group much smaller than that.
Headed out for the first big hunt of the year.. hope you all are getting dialed in and feeling confident heading into the Fall.. I’ll be off the grid for a bit.. appreciate y’all!! ✊🏹 now go shoot your bow
have an awesome hunt. GOOD LUCK!
Have a awesome hunt !!!! where I am we have about 40 days Kentucky first hunt of the year then Ohio opens and WV
Honestly, I like the raw side to this video. It’s cool to see people you look up to shooting like humans instead of robots.
Thank you my dude
agreed
Nice to see a regular guy shooting. Keep the content coming.
I HAVE HUNTED AND SHOT ARCHERY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I WISH I HAD THE INFORMATION YEARS AGO THAT I GET FROM WATCHING JOSH JONES, I LEARN SO MUCH FROM YOUR VIDEO'S . I WAS SELF TAUGHT AND RELIZE NOW THAT I HAD MANY FLAWS IN MY TECHNIQUE , PRATICING WRONG TECHNIQUES NEVER MAKES IT CORRECT. THANKS FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME.
Man, thank goodness for TH-cam and podcasts! Back in the late 1900’s, telling my age, you had to know someone who knew something in order to get the information that is being seen by thousands now on these platforms!
We were told that the broadheads just shot different than your field tips, typically high and right, so you just re-sighted in your bow to your broadheads when it got close to season. Sure wish we had known better! So thank you for providing this resource of knowledge. I’m really enjoying both of your guy’s channels and the wood stove conversations!
What a wealth if you know someone like Josh.👍
Lucky to have him around!
Great job man. You're shooting was fine, you are only human. Keep up the great work.
Thanks dude
@@TimConnor13 no problem man anytime.
I just got new broadheads and will be tuning my bow this week. Thanks for the refresher.
Rad!
One of the most comprehensive broadhead tuning videos out there. Thank you.
Been going through all this again over the last few weeks getting ready for this season and had to cycle through about 6 other videos from other TH-camrs to get all the info that y’all put in this one. Also had to sift through a couple other videos that have the horizontal rest adjustment backwards.
The method you described is absolutely correct. If someone has to do the exact opposite, go back to square 1, something’s up with that setup. Timing out, wrong arrow spine, etc.
Question: do you like the high roller target? I need to replace my 18-1 (no complaints on it) but have been looking at the high roller. Specifically for broad heads.
18-1 is more durable
I was struggling getting my bow tuned. This video 100% helped me get it where I needed to be. You guys are awesome
thank goodness for you and MFJJ Been saying for years that a perfectly tuned bow is when broadheads and fieldpoints hit in the same place .. Great video great information
In the All Broadhead Tuning Questions video by Elkshape last year, MFJJ said if the broadhead hits left, move the rest right; the opposite of this video. Did what he said in this video and my BH and FP touch. But it makes my paper tune off. Can't have both a great paper tune and BH tune on my bow for some reason...probably just me. So I'm prioritizing the BH tune over the paper. Hopefully that pans out
Going through the same thing right now, im out of time. Home gamer setup in my workshop. Appreciate the people we watch for info going through the same thing
The best. If you are a hunter this is the only tuning process you need. Thanks
Thank you very much for the info! I am just starting the broadhead tuning process and this will help tremendously.
Awesome!!
Listen, Tim, this Josh golfing idea is the best content idea you've had! You absolutely must do a driving range swing workshop for him or a series of lessons... It'd be hilarious and really good for people getting into golf!
The best broad head bow tuning video on TH-cam. Thank you MFJJ and Tim!
This is a great video and thanks for doing it! I've finally got my brodheads hitting with field points but it's been a frustrating journey to get there. I think this will help lots of folks like me that like to Woonsocket our own stuff!
Glad it helped my dude
Nice video! Also guys, keep in mind there’s always the factor of human error. I know the goal is to make them hit exactly the same every time you shoot but it’s difficult to do that constantly without having some flyers right.
I’d say start fresh (rest) after doing this excersice for a long time and then try again, then when you think you got it right, rest again and try it the next day to see if your first two shots (arrows) are touching, this is when I’d call it good.
Saved your video so I can reference in future I thought y’all explained so good at whiteboard. Appreciate it
Glad it was helpful!
No lie I just had to reference the video today and I fixed my broadheads being 4 inches right because of y’all’s whiteboard explanation! Thanks again! I’m only 4 months into compound archery so it was my first time shooting any broadhead.
Great job on this one Tim and JJ.! It's refreshing to see accurate info on broadhead tuning.
Litterally battling these things now and these are great nuggets! I'm headed to the bow shop in the am, but now i have a feeling i know exactly what i need them to check. Good luck on the hunt and thanks for the vid.
Cool video tim. I just broadhead tuned my V3X 29 .at my archery club. I have the NAP HELLRAZOR fixed blade flying great. I cant wait for the season to start in September
Awesome Raw video. Very easy to understand how to properly adjust for broadheads. Thanks guys keep up the great content and good luck in the woods!!
Great real and raw video, glad you kept this in here
Great vid, guys! I wish we had a Josh Jones in CO. Our techs are ok, but they aren’t as good as MFJJ…. NOT PLAYIN’. Thanks again - awesome content!
Honestly the only ones I’ve seen close to as good as JJ is the Bow and Arrow shop dude from Bow Disciples. It’s hard to find that level of knowledge anywhere.
I haven’t seen a pro shop with even half of the knowledge Josh has in over 20 years. Nobody seems to care enough about their job, and your equipment to take any of the proper tuning steps. They take a bow out of the box, slap accessories on, tie a peep and d loop, and send you on your way. The only way we can get the most out of our equipment, is to either buy the press and draw board and do our own work, or drive to Washington and ask for MFJJ. Lol
It’s sad and frustrating, but we all need to learn to work on our own bows
Great job on the video. It’s videos like this that has helped me build my setups and get incrementally better at it. Saved the video because I know I’ll have to come back to it again. Now if I could just kill a buck with a bow, that’d be great.
I totally need some on course golf Vlogs!!
Great video.... love it
Thanks so much!
Keep up the good work man. Your videos and podcasts are always educational, down to earth and relatable.
Great video, I learned a lot from this video especially from Josh about hand pressure in the grip! Keep up the strong work!
I like watching the whole process cuz I’ve been frustrated chasing my tail with my own tuning stuff. Thx Tim
Nice shooting bro! awesome.👏🏽
Awesome video Tim and Josh! Been working on broad head tuning this week. You guys always seem to read my mind, man!! Your killing it Tim !
Thanks my friend!
I went the bareshaft route just for the sake of shooting my broadheads less. I got the bareshaft paper tare down to a quater inch. First shot with the broadhead came out an inch low at 30 yards. So both definitely work
I live in Washington i love your videos and elk shape keep up the good work!
Dope vid, once again Tim. Love what you and MFJJ are doing with your channel. Look forward to the videos every week.
Very confused on the L/R movement. This is the opposite of everything I have heard and I don't understand why it would be different that the vertical adjustments.
Agreed, that claim makes no sense.
I thought the same, but it worked for me yesterday. No idea why it is, but that's what it be. My fieldpoints and broadheads now fly beautifully together out to 40. Broadheads first though 😂
Clean design and a sharp tip which is crucial. Many mechanicals don't have a sharp tip. Like Rage NC.
They need to be hand shapered.
That's what I do, and the blades.
"STAY SHARP JIG"
Best explanation out there! Thank you
Tim's shooting lasers and good form. I'm trying to work on my grip and having a relaxed grip onto the riser.
Nice video Tim! Tuning is always a fun filled Ride!
I’m am confused on the order of operations… so I am going to assume the order goes something like this.. setup bow and eye everything to square.. then sight in enough to get on target at 20-30 yards.. then broadhead tune followed up by 1st/2nd/3rd axis shoot in adjustments? Also should you try this with multiple broadheads and what broadheads are recommended for tuning if you plan to shoot mechanicals with smaller vanes. I’m just not sure my smaller vanes will stabilize a fixed blade to begin with.
great info on tuning, keep up the great work!
Man that shop is amazing. I wish it was my local.
Definitely a very informative video on broadband tuning.
Tim, I do this all the time too.. you definitely weren't even shooting crappy, maybe one was on the outer edge of the dot!!! Don't hold yourself to such high standards because its not possible to be PERFECT!
Good luck on your first hunts!!
Thanks for the video!Keep up the good work!
Great video the raw step by step gives you a real world way to do things . Mfjj like always very informative
Great video Tim and MFJJ
I need to start getting my bow broad head tuned. I am however really happy i bought that big high roller target today. looks like it can take a beating.
Keep up the good work not easy for anybody like us been struggling for cupples days with that fuc****** broadhead tuning and deal with wind
I was hitting broadhead left and when I moved my rest to the left it got worse, had a weird kick out on the back of the arrow, I think the fletching was hitting the side of the drop away housing because then, after I sent an arrow into the forest, I moved it back to the right I had the broadhead and field point hitting in the same hole.
You are correct in the movement of your rest.
11:40 why do other sites say to move the opposite direction? Have you tested chasing field point. What’s the difference?
Great video. Very informative.
Can y'alls please do a video on grip, grip pressure, what 'adverse heel pressure' is, etc.? I'm struggling with tail left tears and feel it's my grip but I can't figure it out.
Thank you!! I learned a lot from this video!!!
Josh looks like you have a sweet shop, would love to check out if im ever in the area!!
Good shooting Tim!
Always a pleasure to watch Tim appreciate your time and information ❤👍👊
Thanks Tim.
Love this channel they make understanding archery easy .is a sandila dragon 8 a good starter bow? Or Hoyt/Matthews
Sweet vid! Helped me a lot! Curious, when you feel good about field and BH placement, and call it good, do you assume then that the rest location is correct for all BH's of the same type and sight there after?!
Just did the same thing today lol. Great video Tim and good shooting!
I kinda like the shot a day challenge . Makes alot of since to shoot every day if only couple shots. Love your videos
Good video fellas 👍👍👍
Thank you sincerely
Good job Timmy nice shooting 👍
Nice shooting. I wish I had a place to shoot like that.
Do you look at your pin or what you are aiming for and just let the pin float all around? I hear two different schools of thought. Great video.
I’ve learned over the years that it is better to work on this more than ONE shooting session. We all have better days than others so a few different day sessions will usually give you a better feedback. That’s obvious. And people don’t shoot their broad head’s enough for whatever reason. Buy more than one pack and shoot them. Things change and it’s vitally important to know that throughout the season your arrows are hitting BEHIND THE PIN!
Been a while since I had to broad head tune. Just got new strings and a sight. Thanks for the detailed video! How far back were you shooting the beginning st the dice?
Not gonna lie, I’ll take advantage of your code on Josh’s store as long as it’s available. Used it on my Bushnell Broadhead rangefinder a couple week’s ago. The price after the code was untouchable by any other shop or internet store
Awesome video, as a lefty do you make adjustments opposite of what you guys did ? Also tell MFJJ got my vice awesome talking to him
Adjustments directions are the same for a lefty.
No more hand held release Tim? This clears up a lot of confusion on this process. After this there should be no reason to tweak the sight at all if its already dialed in previously?
Good stuff! This would blow the Ranch Ferry’s mind
Apart from being.more accurate than an olympic archers. Graet video and information.
I've always wondered, though, why no one shoots a field tip-arrow through paper after they've broadhead tuned their bow. To show if the tear is still a perfect bullet-hole. Just curious.
MFJJ If you took a bow that was tuned and shooting arrows with broadheads and practice tips in the same spot, then slightly moved the rest to the right and shot you would see the target tips hitting slightly right and broadheads hitting even farther right. You would not move the rest to the right to correct. It needs to move back to the left. Please explain.
Got to love the shank
Nice video! Tim's arrow looks a little short for my taste. Broadhead is right behind his fingers. If there is a failure of the rest or your drawing in a hurry and arrow bounces of the rest, that may be very bad. I like hunting arrows a little longer.
Good stuff man. I generally don’t have an issue getting B heads to hit with field points until I start to really stretch the yardage. That said, I’ve wondered at the process of bare shaft tuning and fletched arrow tuning through paper and then throwing that out the window for broadhead tuning.
If I couldn’t get heads to fly with field points even though my bow was shooting bullets through paper, I would just use a different sight for broadheads. Anyways, who cares, I’m not a TH-camr.
Good to see the joint custody of MFJJ is working out.
paper tuning is just a starting point, you will have to move your rest.
I shoot slick trick fixed blades, I've never needed to tune my broadheads...they seem to fly and hit perfect as my field points
Tim, your shooting is looking really strong these days and looking even better since you got the Hoyt. Do you notice the difference since you got the new bow?
Just a try honest question I need an answer to. Does broadhead to fletching or vane alignment matter? I shoot field tips all year, then for hunting season I always buy new arrows square em up then fletch em aligned to the way the broadgeads are set in the insert....does Ant of this even matter?
Can you please tell me where that archery shop is
Tim, ask Josh if he believes in setting the arrow rest right under the forward node of the arrow. I do that along with having the bow and arrows tuned. This usually gives me perfect broadhead flight.
That works pretty good thanks for the video the only problem is I didn't glue my insert good enough so I lost my expensive broadhead hard lesson learned😂😂😂
I’m using an Elite Ethos with Hamskea Epsilon shooting at 2 pm from center of a clock so move downwards and right?
I'm relatively new to high-end compound bows. What is the point of doing the initial paper tune if you have to move the rest to tune the broadhead anyway? Also, if I were to dedicate my bow to only hunting, could I just tune to the broad heads only and not worry about field points? From what I could gather, you were tuning for a happy medium between the two? I've been watching a few of your videos, and they've been quite helpful, cheers!
man I feel the frustration... its a journey bro just stick with it!!
Hey Tim, ask Josh what happens if the arrows hit the target sideways consistently!!??
I happen to do this same tune but my arrows all hit tail left.
When changing the timing in the cams. Should you go back to paper tuning?
Where are you located i would love to get my bow tuned new to bow hunting an not sure if its my form or weong arrows 😅 i need help brother
Tim, why not a thumb release?
When did you switch to a hoyt?
That's a lotta goodies man, what is that combo on the front of Tim's arrow? Is it your platinum sleeve and insert system mfjj?
Cool! Next time, try to shoot the bareshaft from 20m instead of broadhead, you will set it up even more accurately.Even better with 30m if you can.(Paige Pierce shoots a bareshaft from 60 yards by the way)
One must consider the abilities of the archer when broadhead tuning. You can’t just pick the one time someone hits the same hole and make your adjustment based on that one instance. For 90%+ archers, being within an inch of one another would be close enough as they’re likely not consistently capable of a group much smaller than that.
Does the movement of the rist still hold true with left-handed?
Why do you move the rest opposite for elevation changes, but the same direction as the BH for horizontal? I've done it just the opposite for 25 years.