Great videos. You probably did but when you drill through from inside out , turn the hammer off the drill just before you go through . 90% of the time you get a perfect round holes and no blown bricks.
I run cables from top of stairs underfloor down into under stairs cupboard regularly, I know it seems difficult but it’s not really. There’s no need to go outside and back in. If you drill at an angle that follows the stair angle from below, through the wood, you’ll come out in the floor void above top of stairs.
just pull a new leg up with rubber cable to the bedroom one, as for kitchen definitely not outside ,try to get some tiles off carefully and go to floor level then across to board.
I feel your pain. I rewired my house in June which was still occupied. Took a week to do, moving stuff all over the place to make room and trace 70’s wiring.
I think this is the best video I’ve seen that encapsulates what an absolute wind up a domestic electrical installation can be! Complete with the voice of dejection when you unearth something you weren’t expecting which is going to stick a couple of hours on the job!
I remember rewiring a place, many years ago, with my brother. All rubber cable. I remember seeing it, running over some timbers in the loft, all the rubber (sheath and insulation) had totally perished/crumbled away in places, with the live conductors exposed and the timbers carbonised where in close contact with them! It all failed insulation testing, that's why my brother recommended a re-wire in the first place.
Been watching these videos for a while now. Quality and you are a funny guy Nick! Electrician myself and it’s ace been able to watch along and relate to so many situations. I’m a contracts manager now at a decent sized company and I’m actually picking some neat hints and tips up alongside handy products. Always learning!
I looked at a job last week, house is full of rubber wiring, old MK sockets that only lifted a cm off the wall. Crying out for a rewire to be honest. Lead gas pipes, not seen that in years, i thought the gas supplyers did a campaign removal of that stuff back in the 90s.
Quinetic solved problems for us on a 'oh crap your lighting circuit is falling apart black rubber' about 4 years back. Fortunately the sockets had been done in the '60s and was in 7/.029 pvc/pvc T&E, and passed insulation tests. I know it's quite common now, but we did a panel with 16 receivers in it doing the entire house. Wish I'd kept the pics
With your wonderful clean chaser, and Cjr plastering skills you could do a tidy job. Better than surface trunking. And when it’s redecorated it’s back to perfect. One of you 3 needs to learn plastering skills in chases.
Great video; good reality check for the apprentoids ;-) Just shows you need to be able to think on your feet, be pragmatic and adapt your plans (and hours) to suit the change in circumstance.
Amused to see you guys still use the phrase "Belling Out" - from the 60's and before when we used a bell (or buzzer) and a battery and leads to establish continuity, before the days of MFT's etc. Another great video!
You could almost say that terms "ship has come in"? Although it is nice to see that some of the terms still bleed through to make the young apprentices scratch their heads.
Hi Nick, really enjoy your videos! Wondering if you have every re-wired an old house with lath and plaster walls/ceilings as buying a new house them lath and plaster which needs a rewire. You good job!
Amazing to watch your work. Must be UK. Completely different to German standards, but some problems are similiar. You never know what the last person working on the house did do. It's a detective's work often.
Good job mate 👍 It may not be pretty to run conduits outside, but it make total sense on trouble shooting and minimising the damages to walls and keep customer happy.
reminds me my house is almost entirely wired in old rubber.....been meaning to do something about it for years it's all in shockingly good condition mind you, which is a surprise
Great videos keep up the good work,only one query , you had a single socket above the cabinet was it not possible pulling one leg into that completing the ring main,, running the cable on top of the kitchen cabinet straight into the cupboard where the fuse board located
Nick have you done a video on testing? I was a maintenance electrician and did the 17th edition way back when, just thought a testing update would make good content.
yeah, our house is mid 60s, so the original black rubber is actually less than 60 yrs old. (maybe 60 if it was old stock) It was in perfect condition in the attic, but the condition at the sockets was godawful, falling to bits, half gooey half crumbly. It simply as you say, is past its useby date and is not reliable anymore.
surprised we don't see them more often too; I've only seen Savery use one in a video. a tracer and a generic usb endoscope... very cheap and can save you so much time.
Maybe because the tracers are expensive, although I remember seeing another video using Shear resistance to estimate length. edit: And then a week later a video on how to find a fault in a wall using the same technique.
@@imark7777777 only expensive if you went for a brand like fluke. I spent £15 on mine from banggood. the same model can be found on amazon for around £25 if you don't want to wait 3 weeks for it to come from china. works great on T&E, cat6, bell wire. the only thing it's not so great on is coax/rg6.
@@peter-gn8ey I got my AC circuit tracer at Harbor freight after I noticed they had one and i was like oh my gosh that's a good deal, it works well. However I was also looking for a toner and I was going to get a cheap one well poking around eBay I spied a really good deal on a fluke, which was a fluke as unfortunately I don't really like the brand but they do make good stuff.
Hi Nick have you done a video on how you tagged ypur 18th edition regs book .I wanted to do mine the same to make it easier for the test amd day to day .Love the videos
In Ireland we’d have to move that fuseboard as it’s a fire hazard under a timber stairs. We wouldn’t be allowed to add any new circuits to it either. Do you not have to send hazardous notice to your Electrical governing Body and they in turn contact householder to explain the danger ?
I can imagine a "an Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman" joke out of that... like the Englishman pays for the work to be done, the Jock is too tight-fisted to fork out and Paddy pays ten grand to have the stairs ripped out and a metal staircase put in 😅
@@roydowling2542 Except our regs permit where ever the customer desires as long as adequate precautions are taken. Also the regs are deemed guidance not statutory so there's quite a lot of leeway.
@@roydowling2542 The Government dont make Electrical Regulations in the UK other than the Electricity at work act and some that come under part P of the Building Regs. The IEE make them and they are not Law, just advisory. But should something happen and you can prove you followed the Regulations properly, it can provide you a defence in Court
Ah I felt your pain mate. Turning up to do one job and finding more as you go, and then having to explain it to a customer that has no idea what you're taking about, and then feeling like a dodgy salesmen! Good work though mate, best to get that old rubber out
Personally I hate surface trunking, but if that is what the customer wants, the last time I used surface trunking was in a cupboard and outside to hide the TV cable that unsightly on the outside of a house. Great video guys.
@@lewis94uk yes it wss only to hide that tv cable that the cable hammered to the wall, it was only to hide the cable because I was told the cable looked unsightly. It done the job it melded in with the white pvc cladding
"I'm gonna sit you on this box here" Not sure why but I much prefer it when people don't say "I will set the camera down" but much rather "put you there". My friend does that on video chat all the time and it feels way nicer
I believe the weird rule with the lead gas pipe is it's not allowed if under the stairs in a 3 floor property (potentially blocking an exit route), so normally it's still allowed in smaller houses. But good of the gas board to move the meter. Having said that, regulations change often, so maybe I'm wrong . . .
lead gas isn't allowed at all anywhere now, so it's not to current standards but not immediately dangerous on an existing installation that's proven to be sound. i also could be wrong though
I'm not going to lie, that's the first time I've seen legs/cables being rewired via the outside of the house then back in again.... Interesting and food for thought but ideally if can fish cables and raggle then do that but I suppose worse case can drill outside and do conduit system
Pretty common on some houses, had to do it with cooker cables and showers before, it's all down to access. At times it's not practical to pull through a cavity filled with insulation horizontally or take up a concrete floor. It would be nice to go up and over but again if the joists don't permit and you can't pull up the cavity it is what it is.
I've had to do it loads with Solar PV installations, when there's laminate flooring etc on the first floor that leaves it impossible to get cables around. One fella had a big gun safe bolted to the floor right above the consumer unit, we came straight out the gable end about 1M from the ridge of the roof, down to about 30 CM from ground level in 25mm conduit. Easiest and cleanest way of getting it in by far
Drop the switch wires down existing steel conduits to switches, its a tried and trusted method of ensuring the lights will still be working for another 60 years. Quinetic switches have there place, just doesn't make sense doing it here.
The run from the fuse board to upstairs seemed so short; was it really not possible to fish a new cable up to the second floor without having to go outside? Otherwise that looks like a hell of a (not) fun job. :)
It's easy for me to say after watching your video. But I think this is another job, where a temporary consumer unit board with a double socket on, could have been connected into the meter. If it was me, I think I'd have left the rubber cable in and quoted for it as a separate job. You seemed quite fed up towards the end of the video. It was past dinner time when you started putting the new board in. Well done for persevering though 🙂
Probably would have been easier to do later but then again with the floorboards up dot-dot-dot Yeah a temporary Supply is one of those things that you go I won't need it and then the next thing you know it's dark! I forget what made me do it but I got myself an outlet granted this is the USA so I can get away with lower voltages I grabbed myself an outlet box and some flexible cable and alligator clips. Came in handy when I needed to trace out a circuit I was able to plug a radio in and then toggle Breakers before I got a circuit tracer. A year or two ago I decided to rewire it I added a incoming power indicator and a 15 amp circuit breaker switch, so I can connect up see there's power and then insert the load. Since it has come in quite handy I was able to carefully tie into a lighting circuit plug my circuit tracer in, there was a ton of Breakers and multiple panels and other people working in the building so couldn't just go turning things off. and in one occasion at home when I need an outside light and hadn't gotten yet to fix the motion light do a temporary tie in and plug in a utility light. I wouldn't recommend this for high loads although now that lighting has now transitions to LED in work lamps.... I did some extensive testing and I was surprised that I was able to pull a 1000 Watts at 120v and nothing got warm using the halogen work lamps. This made me revisit the topic and I tried to pull about 15 amps in a test environment thinking that the alligator clips would get warm they didn't. I use the wider ones and good quality ones from Radio Shack, and always make sure they are gripping good and labeled.
Over the pond here in the US we have in our code a requirement to have a utility Outlet next to the electrical panel, this is meant as a temporary worksite power once you get the utility lines into the house and the panel up and then you can work on adding the other circuits if you have to. It's also a nice utility option if you have to disconnect power to all of the house you can leave the one Outlet on of course this assumes you don't have to turn the main breaker off to work in the panel. Writing up some other comments I thought I would come back here and say maybe he should have did the consumer unit first wired in the outlet Under the Stairs well it was still light out and then he could have come back after everything else was done turned off bought all the lines in and tidied up but that's foresight and an afterthought. But the trade-off of that is having to do the outside conduit might have been in the dark. I like thinking through these problems in hopes that I will improve my skills.
Hi Nick spot on again As you say leaving V.I,R. Is definitely a no no . Certainly wouldn’t go down well with the N.I.C bless um 😐 . This is a good example to highlight the ability to think on your feet and over come problems as they invariably become along . And that lady’s and gentleman is we’re the skill and experience comes in . Look forward to your next video Regards. Mike
If it's in good condition and untouched and tests okay it's a good question. But the more you look the more you're likely to find problems so it's a trade-off. The more I learn about the stuff the more I think it probably needs to come out if you have the access to it. Especially if you end up working around it because it might be good when you pull the floorboard up but after working around it dot-dot-dot
@@imark7777777 Absolutely sir The shear fact that you can’t see its condition across its entire length is a major factor. I’m now long retired but would in my time not even bothered to test its integrity. And if someone electricians out there are still prepared to test and forget, then literally there playing with fire . V.I.R. Cable by now is well past it’s sell by date . A bit like me really . And as for tacking on a new cable to feed additional work . Would to me be a cardinal sin 😃 Best regards. Mike
@@st9318 Firstly make it clear to the customer that an EICR is a must before the commencement of any work,to ascertain the condition of the existing installation/Consumer Unit before you can make any alterations to existing circuits or carry out any sort of rewiring. Dont get me wrong,rewiring in domestic occupied scenarios can be a nightmare. Just think personally that quick fixes are not necessarily the best answer. Especially when the result is a house full of quinetic switches and black plastic conduit running across outside walls. I can't believe there was no way of getting the lighting feeds up,and maybe making the single socket above the kitchen cupboard the first point on the ring,would have been preferable to running plastic conduit on outside walls,taking pvc/pvc cables outside and then back in again. Be clear with the customer from the outset regarding cable runs and possible disruption to decor etc.If they are asking you to compromise the standard of your work,then thank them for considering you but suggest that maybe they would be better off having the job done by someone else. As for butting surface mini trunking up to flush sockets,really?
So if the customer is not in a position to be able to afford to have the work done to the highest standard you would walk away rather than do an adequate, but safe job?
@@farmersteve129 I would 100% politely walk away. They will always find someone else who can live with the quality of work that is being asked of them.
It doesn't, as he was trying to say when it was getting late. Let's see how good my interpretation skills are for late-day tired electrical speak. If I'm translating this right he was saying that he was going to put it on the wall but then decided to put a gap so he could bring all the cables in behind since it was sort of a spaghetti of directions.
Was hoping you would attempt to fish the new cables up the existing capping / oval conduit first... 😉 It appears the choice to not go with plastic light fittings and plastic screws on switches has opened a whole can of worms. We would do rewires in 2 day when the house we occupied. A total nightmare..
Many many year's ago they used to have lead throughout, then lead only used on meter connections and cookers, due to it's semi flexibility. Rember doing lead lead work as part of the gas fitting exams, but it was on it's way out in the seventies. Those lead branches are quite a skilled job, even when I was training some would struggle.
Mate you need the ideal circuit tracer we use this a lot in the USA and it’s great it takes while getting used to it but once you do it’s a life saver mate especially with old wiring routes. See Sparky Channel - great guy by the way. th-cam.com/video/PAWYmtN3i7Q/w-d-xo.html
Great videos.
You probably did but when you drill through from inside out , turn the hammer off the drill just before you go through . 90% of the time you get a perfect round holes and no blown bricks.
Also worth piloting through with a thinner bit & then come back through with the full size bit.
I run cables from top of stairs underfloor down into under stairs cupboard regularly, I know it seems difficult but it’s not really. There’s no need to go outside and back in. If you drill at an angle that follows the stair angle from below, through the wood, you’ll come out in the floor void above top of stairs.
That's what I thought? Seems a bit lazy to go outside?
just pull a new leg up with rubber cable to the bedroom one, as for kitchen definitely not outside ,try to get some tiles off carefully and go to floor level then across to board.
@ 12:49 use a a very small bit from inside of house to outside then foolw up with a larger bit from outside to inside
I feel your pain. I rewired my house in June which was still occupied. Took a week to do, moving stuff all over the place to make room and trace 70’s wiring.
I think this is the best video I’ve seen that encapsulates what an absolute wind up a domestic electrical installation can be! Complete with the voice of dejection when you unearth something you weren’t expecting which is going to stick a couple of hours on the job!
I remember rewiring a place, many years ago, with my brother. All rubber cable. I remember seeing it, running over some timbers in the loft, all the rubber (sheath and insulation) had totally perished/crumbled away in places, with the live conductors exposed and the timbers carbonised where in close contact with them! It all failed insulation testing, that's why my brother recommended a re-wire in the first place.
Hate seeing black rubber. All too often in our work area (gosport/fareham) it's still in use :O
Been watching these videos for a while now. Quality and you are a funny guy Nick!
Electrician myself and it’s ace been able to watch along and relate to so many situations. I’m a contracts manager now at a decent sized company and I’m actually picking some neat hints and tips up alongside handy products. Always learning!
12:13 I hope someone told the householders that sealing the brick vents with silicone is a very bad idea.
The realistic side to being an electrician nothing but awkwardness, great job fellas 👍
I looked at a job last week, house is full of rubber wiring, old MK sockets that only lifted a cm off the wall. Crying out for a rewire to be honest. Lead gas pipes, not seen that in years, i thought the gas supplyers did a campaign removal of that stuff back in the 90s.
Good job, could drill vertical mortar joint out and fish up cavity #superrod then small bit of morta saves conduit and running out for a 90 :)
You guys are a great team ~ thanks for posting 👍🏻
Quinetic solved problems for us on a 'oh crap your lighting circuit is falling apart black rubber' about 4 years back. Fortunately the sockets had been done in the '60s and was in 7/.029 pvc/pvc T&E, and passed insulation tests. I know it's quite common now, but we did a panel with 16 receivers in it doing the entire house. Wish I'd kept the pics
Brilliant video Nick.Thats the proper world of domestic sparkying.Doesn't always go as planned.Keep up the good work.
The old mem rewirable board is shouting out done in the 60s hence the rubber wiring,i must if a job is going pear shape it always gets worse 👍
With your wonderful clean chaser, and Cjr plastering skills you could do a tidy job. Better than surface trunking. And when it’s redecorated it’s back to perfect. One of you 3 needs to learn plastering skills in chases.
Yeah it was always looks nicer that way, unless of course there's wallpaper or paint colors to match.
I'm sorry but these are the kind of things I love watching because I love figuring out and thinking through the problems
Great video; good reality check for the apprentoids ;-) Just shows you need to be able to think on your feet, be pragmatic and adapt your plans (and hours) to suit the change in circumstance.
Great video Nick, an insight into my world. Don’t you just love occupied house rewires. Sorts the tradesman from site monkeys😂
Amused to see you guys still use the phrase "Belling Out" - from the 60's and before when we used a bell (or buzzer) and a battery and leads to establish continuity, before the days of MFT's etc. Another great video!
But that’s only the same as saying “ pull the chain” ,“ wind the window down” or even “give someone a ring”(on the phone) Old habits die hard
I still use a buzzer/battery on my alarm system cables especially on take overs. not so much for continuity but to identify where they go 😁
You could almost say that terms "ship has come in"? Although it is nice to see that some of the terms still bleed through to make the young apprentices scratch their heads.
Hi Nick, really enjoy your videos! Wondering if you have every re-wired an old house with lath and plaster walls/ceilings as buying a new house them lath and plaster which needs a rewire. You good job!
You good job!
What ever you're paying Adam, it's not enough! 🤑
Amazing to watch your work. Must be UK. Completely different to German standards, but some problems are similiar. You never know what the last person working on the house did do. It's a detective's work often.
Lesson learnt for next time. Take the fuse box cover off and look for rubber cables.
Good job mate 👍 It may not be pretty to run conduits outside, but it make total sense on trouble shooting and minimising the damages to walls and keep customer happy.
Brilliant video nice bit of trunking and I love the boxes.
You’ll get very minimal blow out if you drill by gradually increasing the diameter size of the drill to required size hole 🕳
Quality work as always and keep up the hard work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
A1 getting that lot done in a day Nick!
reminds me my house is almost entirely wired in old rubber.....been meaning to do something about it for years
it's all in shockingly good condition mind you, which is a surprise
Great videos keep up the good work,only one query , you had a single socket above the cabinet was it not possible pulling one leg into that completing the ring main,, running the cable on top of the kitchen cabinet straight into the cupboard where the fuse board located
Oh that is a good idea , I'll have to remember that. I never be in the exact same situation? but still.
The joy's of being an electrician, Great work boys
Top work, excellent video as always 👍
Nick have you done a video on testing? I was a maintenance electrician and did the 17th edition way back when, just thought a testing update would make good content.
Yes Nick ditch the rubber cable, its well past its 60 years plus service.
yeah, our house is mid 60s, so the original black rubber is actually less than 60 yrs old. (maybe 60 if it was old stock) It was in perfect condition in the attic, but the condition at the sockets was godawful, falling to bits, half gooey half crumbly. It simply as you say, is past its useby date and is not reliable anymore.
Is that a 61008 on the rcd , no over current protection?
Why don’t you use a cable tracer to figure the routes before taking up floor boards and moving furniture?
surprised we don't see them more often too; I've only seen Savery use one in a video. a tracer and a generic usb endoscope... very cheap and can save you so much time.
Maybe because the tracers are expensive, although I remember seeing another video using Shear resistance to estimate length.
edit: And then a week later a video on how to find a fault in a wall using the same technique.
@@imark7777777 only expensive if you went for a brand like fluke. I spent £15 on mine from banggood. the same model can be found on amazon for around £25 if you don't want to wait 3 weeks for it to come from china. works great on T&E, cat6, bell wire. the only thing it's not so great on is coax/rg6.
@@peter-gn8ey I got my AC circuit tracer at Harbor freight after I noticed they had one and i was like oh my gosh that's a good deal, it works well. However I was also looking for a toner and I was going to get a cheap one well poking around eBay I spied a really good deal on a fluke, which was a fluke as unfortunately I don't really like the brand but they do make good stuff.
Hi Nick have you done a video on how you tagged ypur 18th edition regs book .I wanted to do mine the same to make it easier for the test amd day to day .Love the videos
In Ireland we’d have to move that fuseboard as it’s a fire hazard under a timber stairs. We wouldn’t be allowed to add any new circuits to it either. Do you not have to send hazardous notice to your Electrical governing Body and they in turn contact householder to explain the danger ?
I can imagine a "an Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman" joke out of that... like the Englishman pays for the work to be done, the Jock is too tight-fisted to fork out and Paddy pays ten grand to have the stairs ripped out and a metal staircase put in 😅
@John Smith How is it any different than the UK.
Your government regs tell you where you can and can't have a new fuse board swell...
Thats why new Consumer units are made of Non flammable material
@@roydowling2542 Except our regs permit where ever the customer desires as long as adequate precautions are taken. Also the regs are deemed guidance not statutory so there's quite a lot of leeway.
@@roydowling2542 The Government dont make Electrical Regulations in the UK other than the Electricity at work act and some that come under part P of the Building Regs.
The IEE make them and they are not Law, just advisory. But should something happen and you can prove you followed the Regulations properly, it can provide you a defence in Court
Nick have u ever fitted the electrical car charging unit.
Do you ever use a pipe detector when lifting floorboards.?
Ah I felt your pain mate. Turning up to do one job and finding more as you go, and then having to explain it to a customer that has no idea what you're taking about, and then feeling like a dodgy salesmen! Good work though mate, best to get that old rubber out
Personally I hate surface trunking, but if that is what the customer wants, the last time I used surface trunking was in a cupboard and outside to hide the TV cable that unsightly on the outside of a house. Great video guys.
You used plastic trunking outside ? 🤔
@@lewis94uk yes it wss only to hide that tv cable that the cable hammered to the wall, it was only to hide the cable because I was told the cable looked unsightly. It done the job it melded in with the white pvc cladding
@@stuarth540 fair enough dude makes sense
"I'm gonna sit you on this box here"
Not sure why but I much prefer it when people don't say "I will set the camera down" but much rather "put you there". My friend does that on video chat all the time and it feels way nicer
I believe the weird rule with the lead gas pipe is it's not allowed if under the stairs in a 3 floor property (potentially blocking an exit route), so normally it's still allowed in smaller houses. But good of the gas board to move the meter. Having said that, regulations change often, so maybe I'm wrong . . .
lead gas isn't allowed at all anywhere now, so it's not to current standards but not immediately dangerous on an existing installation that's proven to be sound. i also could be wrong though
Take a shot every time Nick says rubber!
and now i have alcohol poisioning
@@TheChipmunk2008 😂😂😂 - bet you aren't even half way through the video though!
@@Sparks0001 you're beautiful, woudl you like to... *passes out*
Hi Nick good work as always. Could you do a video on locking off, proving dead. If you know Michael story you ll understand
Just wondering Nick, what software and/or app do you use in your iPad for kitchen plans etc.? I love your videos, keep up the great work 👍🏻
I'm not going to lie, that's the first time I've seen legs/cables being rewired via the outside of the house then back in again.... Interesting and food for thought but ideally if can fish cables and raggle then do that but I suppose worse case can drill outside and do conduit system
Same
Pretty common on some houses, had to do it with cooker cables and showers before, it's all down to access. At times it's not practical to pull through a cavity filled with insulation horizontally or take up a concrete floor. It would be nice to go up and over but again if the joists don't permit and you can't pull up the cavity it is what it is.
@@effervescence5664 I heard you like getting your cavity searched?
Is what it is?
An absolute eyesore on the outside of your house?
Never compromise on the standard of your work!
I've had to do it loads with Solar PV installations, when there's laminate flooring etc on the first floor that leaves it impossible to get cables around. One fella had a big gun safe bolted to the floor right above the consumer unit, we came straight out the gable end about 1M from the ridge of the roof, down to about 30 CM from ground level in 25mm conduit. Easiest and cleanest way of getting it in by far
Drop the switch wires down existing steel conduits to switches, its a tried and trusted method of ensuring the lights will still be working for another 60 years.
Quinetic switches have there place, just doesn't make sense doing it here.
Totally agree . Crazy not to use existing tubes
The joy of navigating domestic occupied and decorated homes lol. Good job Nick Adam and Aaron.
The run from the fuse board to upstairs seemed so short; was it really not possible to fish a new cable up to the second floor without having to go outside? Otherwise that looks like a hell of a (not) fun job. :)
Why did you take the cables outside, its a cavity wall house ?
Whats the big power bank you use?
Hi guys! Great show as usual!
Thanks bud
Nick, you’re a top man. This is a blinding video. Liked and now subscribed 👌🏽
2 rubbers going into the ring. Gotta be careful with your ring.
But at least rubbers are being used 😂🤔😱
it'll end up like a wizards sleave if that carrys on..
Yep, you don’t want your load shooting out, resulting in unplanned lives that’ll give you a nasty shock.
You got to have those boots ( rubbers ) wet socks are annoying.
Now to pull my mind out of the trunking cough gutter. Lol
is there an English to American electrical jargon translator available?
It's easy for me to say after watching your video. But I think this is another job, where a temporary consumer unit board with a double socket on, could have been connected into the meter. If it was me, I think I'd have left the rubber cable in and quoted for it as a separate job. You seemed quite fed up towards the end of the video. It was past dinner time when you started putting the new board in. Well done for persevering though 🙂
I guess when the floor boards are up, customer at home and jobs till Xmas =, let’s just get on with it.
Probably would have been easier to do later but then again with the floorboards up dot-dot-dot
Yeah a temporary Supply is one of those things that you go I won't need it and then the next thing you know it's dark!
I forget what made me do it but I got myself an outlet granted this is the USA so I can get away with lower voltages I grabbed myself an outlet box and some flexible cable and alligator clips. Came in handy when I needed to trace out a circuit I was able to plug a radio in and then toggle Breakers before I got a circuit tracer. A year or two ago I decided to rewire it I added a incoming power indicator and a 15 amp circuit breaker switch, so I can connect up see there's power and then insert the load. Since it has come in quite handy I was able to carefully tie into a lighting circuit plug my circuit tracer in, there was a ton of Breakers and multiple panels and other people working in the building so couldn't just go turning things off. and in one occasion at home when I need an outside light and hadn't gotten yet to fix the motion light do a temporary tie in and plug in a utility light. I wouldn't recommend this for high loads although now that lighting has now transitions to LED in work lamps.... I did some extensive testing and I was surprised that I was able to pull a 1000 Watts at 120v and nothing got warm using the halogen work lamps. This made me revisit the topic and I tried to pull about 15 amps in a test environment thinking that the alligator clips would get warm they didn't.
I use the wider ones and good quality ones from Radio Shack, and always make sure they are gripping good and labeled.
Over the pond here in the US we have in our code a requirement to have a utility Outlet next to the electrical panel, this is meant as a temporary worksite power once you get the utility lines into the house and the panel up and then you can work on adding the other circuits if you have to. It's also a nice utility option if you have to disconnect power to all of the house you can leave the one Outlet on of course this assumes you don't have to turn the main breaker off to work in the panel.
Writing up some other comments I thought I would come back here and say maybe he should have did the consumer unit first wired in the outlet Under the Stairs well it was still light out and then he could have come back after everything else was done turned off bought all the lines in and tidied up but that's foresight and an afterthought. But the trade-off of that is having to do the outside conduit might have been in the dark.
I like thinking through these problems in hopes that I will improve my skills.
Why I vowed never to do another occupied rewire after my first couple. NEVER AGAIN, and I meant it! Life is too short! 😀
How come
Chaos rains supreme lol I both love and hate those sorts of jobs.
Hi Nick spot on again As you say leaving V.I,R. Is definitely a no no . Certainly wouldn’t go down well with the N.I.C bless um 😐 . This is a good example to highlight the ability to think on your feet and over come problems as they invariably become along . And that lady’s and gentleman is we’re the skill and experience comes in . Look forward to your next video Regards. Mike
If it's in good condition and untouched and tests okay it's a good question. But the more you look the more you're likely to find problems so it's a trade-off.
The more I learn about the stuff the more I think it probably needs to come out if you have the access to it.
Especially if you end up working around it because it might be good when you pull the floorboard up but after working around it dot-dot-dot
@@imark7777777 Absolutely sir The shear fact that you can’t see its condition across its entire length is a major factor. I’m now long retired but would in my time not even bothered to test its integrity. And if someone electricians out there are still prepared to test and forget, then literally there playing with fire . V.I.R. Cable by now is well past it’s sell by date . A bit like me really . And as for tacking on a new cable to feed additional work . Would to me be a cardinal sin 😃 Best regards. Mike
You good job x3! Should be using black and yellow tools though ;-)
Could the brickwork be LBC Chiltern Bricks- I hate them......
A boss like u would be amazing . Keep the good work and Byeeeeee
Brilliant never disappoints!
Cheers mate
I hope they never sell that house..
Next people will have a shock (excuse the pun). When they come to add socket or something.
Hahaha
Keep fighting the good fight.
Really enjoy your videos,
What a graft got stuck in kept at it fair play the 3 of you
7:40 Bit of flexicon and it'll be reet
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I feel your pain some days lol keep it up 👍
That plastic conduit on the outside wall looks absolutely awful.
And butting surface mini trunking up to a flush socket????????
If the customers happy, it complies and reduces damage whats the issue? Easy too point out the flaws but what would you do differently?
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Firstly make it clear to the customer that an EICR is a must before the commencement of any work,to ascertain the condition of the existing installation/Consumer Unit before you can make any alterations to existing circuits or carry out any sort of rewiring.
Dont get me wrong,rewiring in domestic occupied scenarios can be a nightmare.
Just think personally that quick fixes are not necessarily the best answer.
Especially when the result is a house full of quinetic switches and black plastic conduit running across outside walls.
I can't believe there was no way of getting the lighting feeds up,and maybe making the single socket above the kitchen cupboard the first point on the ring,would have been preferable to running plastic conduit on outside walls,taking pvc/pvc cables outside and then back in again.
Be clear with the customer from the outset regarding cable runs and possible disruption to decor etc.If they are asking you to compromise the standard of your work,then thank them for considering you but suggest that maybe they would be better off having the job done by someone else.
As for butting surface mini trunking up to flush sockets,really?
@@leemiddleton1938 fair points, I understand where you’re coming from. Thanks for the detailed reply
So if the customer is not in a position to be able to afford to have the work done to the highest standard you would walk away rather than do an adequate, but safe job?
@@farmersteve129
I would 100% politely walk away.
They will always find someone else who can live with the quality of work that is being asked of them.
Couldn't you have just drilled some fresh holes in the back of that outside trunking box to get it perfectly aligned to the other one!?
Why does the CU need to be stood off the wall?
It doesn't, as he was trying to say when it was getting late. Let's see how good my interpretation skills are for late-day tired electrical speak. If I'm translating this right he was saying that he was going to put it on the wall but then decided to put a gap so he could bring all the cables in behind since it was sort of a spaghetti of directions.
Was hoping you would attempt to fish the new cables up the existing capping / oval conduit first... 😉
It appears the choice to not go with plastic light fittings and plastic screws on switches has opened a whole can of worms.
We would do rewires in 2 day when the house we occupied. A total nightmare..
I feel your pain bro
Bundy never fails to impress always you good job (P.S did you see what I did there )
You good job
@@imark7777777 😂
Rough day hey guys 😩😩
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I hate some jobs but love the rest
Lead gas pipe
Many many year's ago they used to have lead throughout, then lead only used on meter connections and cookers, due to it's semi flexibility. Rember doing lead lead work as part of the gas fitting exams, but it was on it's way out in the seventies. Those lead branches are quite a skilled job, even when I was training some would struggle.
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Me tooo
Horrendous mate be I know u will sort it🙏🙏
this is turn up to bigger job.
A nightmare of a job.
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Mate you need the ideal circuit tracer we use this a lot in the USA and it’s great it takes while getting used to it but once you do it’s a life saver mate especially with old wiring routes. See Sparky Channel - great guy by the way.
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dont like that idea nick, ok for earths .
It got the job done with the minimum of disruption but at the cost of it looking a right eyesore both inside and out. Good vide though - Byeeee.😀
I guess if he was aware of rubber cables earlier and wasn’t so busy it could have been a little neater. But the customer would have paid more.
First? Lol