When Should You Perform The C8 Trans Filter 1st Replacement to Avoid A Voided Warranty
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- When should you change the DCT trans filter for the C8 has become a hot topic as of lately, especially since there is a concern about the factory warranty being voided if it's not done correctly. Many new Corvette owners are stressing over the right time or mileage to get the trans filter replaced and dealers are adding to the fear by telling owners even if they changed it as 6800 miles it needs to be done again at 7500. How critical is that additional 700 miles? Will your warranty really get voided if you don't do the filter change in 700 miles? Lets talk about the crazy concerns of voided warranties based off the trans filter 1st change.
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The Tremec DCT TR9080 dual clutch transmission (RPO M1L, M1M) (Fig. 1) on 2020-2024 Corvettes features a transmission canister filter that should be replaced at the initial 7,500-mile (12,000-km) maintenance service. After the initial service, the canister filter should be changed at 22,500 miles (36,000 km) and then at regular 22,500-mile (36,000-km) intervals.GM has extended maintenance coverage of the filter (Fig. 3) to two years or 7,500 miles (12,000 km), whichever comes first, on the first filter change to cover vehicles that do not accumulate 7,500 miles in the first year. It is recommended to only replace the filter at the required maintenance intervals due to the loading characteristics of the filter.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, as I've stated before that information is inside the manual and what I recommend the C8 owners follow. But the questions people always ask and dealers try to exploit is the drivers that don't drive their cars. I try to explain to people it doesn't make sense to change the filter the first year is they only have 3800 miles on the car, but get it done if it's approaching the 2 year mark and you haven't had it replaced even if you only have 4000 miles on the car. What has caused the biggest uproar is the announcement that the filter needs to be changed as close to the 7500 mile mark as possible and even if you got it changed with low miles on your car it needs to be changed again as you approach the 7500 mile mark or the warranty could be voided on the trans. So dealers now have people shook telling them if they change the filter at 6800 miles they need to come back and do it again at 7500 and that's not true. People try to make the words and numbers like law and it's not law its suggestions with an explanation.
GM 's initial statement about the DCT was it takes about 7k-8k miles for the trans mission parts to wear together, so the recommend and cover the first trans filter change to remove all the metal particles that should accumulate form that process at 7500 miles. The wearing process should reduce by a lot less going forward so you should do the 2nd one around 22,500 or 15k miles later. After that service it should be done in intervals of 22,500 miles, but you also have a trans fluid flush and replacement scheduled in the maintenance plan as well for 3yrs or 40k miles which the filter will get replaced as well. So sticking to the exact mileage isn't life or death like many people try to imply.
Great info thanks! I have changed mine 2 times did mine at 6000 miles and 30 000 miles
And no issues with your trans correct?
@@ICNVDE no problems 🤞
The dealer got me good yesterday.
Went for an oil change at 19,890…..was told that I needed to get the DCT done…I bought the car with 15k miles.
Did you check the car fax on the car? In some cases they list the servicing done to the vehicles. I've seen transfilter replacement listed on car faxes of vehicles 10k miles and more
My 23 has been perfect for the first year and just as a precaution on the first service I had them change the DCT filter. What harm could be done? Got in the car after the service and it's not been the same. Intermittently, the car just won't move in 1st gear, press on brake and press throttle and it moves. This all started after they changed the filter. They checked the fluids, there is no CEL, they said it's fine. Fortunately, there are 2 more years of warranty remaining. It had 2500 miles at the time of the service.
I'm sorry to hear that and I have no real explanation for you. I know the GM engineers said the closer to the 7500 miles you change it the better. The filter replacement is suppose to be focused around removing the metal shavings from the gears wearing together and the car learning your driving habits so the trans can shift based off your driving ability. My thoought is have you taken it to another chevy dealer one that sells and services Camaro ZL1s or C7 ZR1 Corvettes. Locations like that typically have master techs for GM performance cars. I'm thinking something wasn't put back correctly or the pressure is being lost. I would look for another dealer/location to address it .
@@ICNVDE that's a great idea to find a dealer that specializes in performance cars. This dealer I took mine to is Top 10 in the Nation (size). I don't know, their service department was packed with people and I was there on a weekday. They want me to bring it to their transmission tech in 3 weeks when he has an opening. They didn't say to stop driving it. This is my first Corvette but this really deflated me. Thanks for your reply.
@@txman951 I hope the experience gets better, my question is it a top 10 Chevy dealer or Corvette dealer. I would believe one of the top 10 Corvette dealers would have a solid service department when it comes to corvettes but the Chevy dealer may not. I know it's not the ownership experience you were looking for but my history with GM is they do a good job of making things right. Sometime the time line isn't as desired but they've always fixed the issue and got the car back on the road or replaced it.
@@ICNVDE thanks very much, I'll let you know what happens. I believe they're Top 10 in Corvette Sales, it's Classic Chevy in Grapevine, TX. I didn't buy my car from them though, I got mine from MacMulkin. Thanks again.
@@txman951 No problem, and I've heard of them.... I almost bought my corvette from them but when covid hit and the ADMs prices started going up they borke the deal with my bank by trying to add markup as extra fees. I've never heard bad reviews about their service department when it comes to corvettes so I hope they find a way to resolve issue. Good Luck!!!
I have a 21' C8 with only 5400 miles, when the 7500 comes up, will it still be covered by GM?
Honestly I doubt it, I don't remember any 21s getting delivered in 2022. They only extended the trans filter & first service coverage until 2 yrs of ownership from delivery date. So if 24 mos has passed since the car was originally titled that coverage is over.
I’m getting my c8 14000 miles do you recommend me to get the transmission service on it it don’t show on the car fax that it got done only engine oil change .. but idk if they did it in a shop and not shows in the car fax
Sorry for the long gap time, been under the weather lately. I would get it done if you don't see anything reporting it has been taken care of just for your piece of mind. When it comes to warranty coverage as long as the original trans filter isn't in the car GM should honor any repair maintenance on the car because it doesn't state the filter replacement has to be done by a dealer. Most 2020 cars are drifting outside of the original 3 year warranties anyway but the 5 year engine and trans warranties are still in affect. I tell people not to be to concerned about it as a second owner because most aftermarket warranties will cover trans repairs regardless of servicing neglect, but that doesn't mean go out and create an issue. i say maintain the car with the intent on preserving the peak performance out put of it.
What about the main transmission filter. And how do you flush out all the fluid? I think I’m gonna get a car less complex
It's complex but it's still not that hard to turn a wrench on you just have to turn on more parts than in the past. That's the one part about having a mid engine car everything is condensed and thrown together in tight places but the performance is something else. Now i know 2 guys that own C8s and do all their own work, so if your truly want to be hands on don't get discouraged there are videos out there that show you how to do so much on these cars
How do you keep the warranty in effect if I do the work myself and not the dealer ?
I'm going to be at around 4k miles in around three weeks. I have a 2022 C8.
My dealer is telling me I should do the trans flush BEFORE I store my vet for the winter.
Any thoughts?
I usually don't start driving my C8 again until April...I took delivery of my car in March [22].
Can/should I wait until Spring '24? Will Chevy honor the complimentary change then?
Let me do a little more research on when they actually announced the 2year extension program for it. But honestly with less than 6k miles I don't think its truly justified but I'd definitely let them do it for free before I let the free change go to waste. Overall everything i was told was the closer to 7500 miles its replaced the better for the long term max performance of the car.
@ICNVDE thanks for the info
We still haven't had a chance to see one another at a cruise or car show.
I'm going to head out to Babes in Joliet tomorrow (Wed 10/4). If you can make it out come through. Very nice show/cruise.
@@runninglow9SS we will but i'm in cleveland this week, should be back this weekend
I firmly disagree ..what do you feel the issue is? I have a hydraulic backhoe and I change engine every 100 hrs and do a trans filter as well..Factory questioned me as to why and my response is filters are far cheaper than a transmission
I’m looking to buy a new vette and will change filter after 1500 miles or sooner..yes it’s most likely not necessary but I do work myself and filters are cheap
Charles first off I want to say its your car and do what you feel but at the same time people don't believe there is a such thing as over servicing your car but you can over service something to the point you "could" create another issue. The transmissions failures aren't as frequent or common as many groups try to make it seem. But you are right filters are cheaper than a transmission so I understand your logic. Now the only thing I can say to you is if a transmission is going to fail extra filter changes not gone prevent it from happening. Transmission failures due to clogged trans filters are so rare, you have a better chance hitting the power ball for $500 million. Plus there hasn't been 1 transmission failure so far where the reason for its malfunction was listed as a clogged trans filter. The reason for the intervals is to see if the trans parts are wearing or breaking down quicker than expected. The extra filter changes and your own personal servicing removes the reporting and record keeping of the transmission wearing habits from the system and doesn't help them identify a possible issue with your car. Every service interval has a reason other than taking your money. I mean lets be real the Full Synthetic High Performance engine oil is rated for 10-12k miles 18-24 mos of use, so do you really think it needs changing at 7500 miles because it can't handle the use and abuse or lack there of? Do you think the test they performed on their engine oil to determine its wear capabilities were flawed? We can agree to disagree but some times people focus so much on the wrong thing they loose sight of the big picture.
lol I put 3K miles on mine in a month and a half
I was close, my first month I put 2630
@@ICNVDE the M4 on my sticker I had five months and I put 10,000 miles on it. At 640 hp now. I’ll be slapping a set of twins on my Corvette at the end of the year.
@@GrumblesM4 I love the fact you drive your car and you making it what you desire. My first year I finished the driving season with 7800 miles, year 2 I added 8700 miles and year 3 I put on another 8850 miles. I'm 5300 miles into year four but I've been driving less this year so far so I may not break the 8500 mark unless I do another long road trip.
Enjoy the car, make memories and have have fun with it.... life is short and they are only machines. There's no use in preserving something that's going to belong to someone else 5 days after you die or 50 yrs from now. We only have a small ownership window for these things make the most of it!!!!
I have a 2020 with 650 miles do I need to do anything?
Thanks in advance
At this point I would change the oil is that hasn't been done in the past 18 mos. You should be good with the trans filter as it only gets clogged from actual miles being put on the car. But even still if you don't get near the 7500 miles by year 6, I would consider changing it just to be on the side of caution.
Thank You@@ICNVDE
Have to do my transmission filter change in 400 miles. So does the fluid have to be changed too or just the filter? Thanks.
Fluid doesn't get changed until 40K miles
@@ICNVDE Great. Thanks for the reply and information. I appreciate it.
You cannot over-service a car.
Depends on your view point, you can waste money performing unnecessary maintenance, you can increase the risk of not installing items back correctly, you can increase the chances of parts getting stripped out and the correct amount of fluid getting replaced, you can increase the chances of the wrong fluid getting used and contaminating the system.... you may feel like there's no way to over service a car but you can create unnecessary problems.