Looming Deadlines for CP3 & Paul George, Knicks & Bronny James is a Laker! | The Hoop Collective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN's Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to react to the Knicks signing OG Anunoby to a massive deal, the looming deadlines for Chris Paul and Paul George, Bronny James being drafted by the Lakers, the Nuggets potentially letting Kentavious Caldwell-Pope walk, who the Sixers can sign, and the Wolves moving up to draft Rob Dillingham.
0:00 Welcome
2:29 Favorite Moment From The Draft
3:37 OG Annoy To Sign Five-Year Contract With Knicks
06:10 Financial Future For New York Knicks
11:18 Looming Deadlines For Chris Paul and Paul George
20:00 Klay Thompson’s Future
26:52 Bronny James Drafted By Lakers
32:20 D’Angelo Russell’s Option
35:30 Will Denver Keep KCP?
45:00 Who Is Left For The Sixers To Sign?!
55:54 Timberwolves Trade Up For Rob Dillingham
1:01:30 Thanks For Watching
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Givony earned himself a raise this draft season.
In the past they’ve really just let him write but he was excellent on live TV. Let em cook
It's overpaying considering he's the 3r or 4th best player on the team getting paid like a #1
he cook cook cook
Totally agree he was very impressive throughout the entire draft process and deserves more screen time.
Bontemps is annoying at times. He's always cutting off the others, but catches an attitude when he's cut off.
nobody likes him. I don't watch this show because of him. This is the first time I'm here in over a year.
Most of the time honestly
Guess y’all not from New York
@@Realsaltyveteran been hoopin with guys from ny my whole life..this isn’t a NY thing lol
Lol, my goodness. Bontemps is a gem and you guys dont know anything about good chemistry and comedy foils. This crew is so good together, just be thankful. Leave the razzing to the pros like Banned MacMahon
Bontempts would make a great cartoon character who talks too much with conviction and constantly gets beat up just to keep talking and get beat up again 😂😂😂
Brian is clearly the most unbiased and smartest one in this group and it always makes me chuckle when the others try to undermine him.
he is unbiased to everything except Lebron
And he gas actual inside info, when he says something I listen. Bontemps is pretty knowledgeable too when hes not whining about something. McMahonxis comedic relief but outside of that and the Mavs which is only 1 out of 30 teams I struggle to find a reason to have him on the pod 😂
And ball
Though it went down this yr to 141
Ok
Leon Rose saved my life
Boston in 6! 😊☘️🏆✨️
If Brian is talking in the woods and Bontemps isn't there, is he still wrong?
very very informative podcast post-draft/pre-free agency, xplaining all new cap rules/options that teams have now, makes alot more sense now, the whole concept of 'aprons' and being 'hard-capped' now sans alotta the loopholes and xcemptions that xisted before
thank you
Another pod at 1.5x speed down, great as always
Intro music always bangs
Yeah whoever made that absolutely cooked
Is it really "overpaying" if other teams would have paid more?
Would they have though? Was Philly really giving OG the max?
More than one team can be willing to overpay.
Yes, but those teams would be way overpaying
@@faywhite7886 YES
42 mil for OG ? Lol ok he better become khawi next year he already got the games missed and defense down now he just has to score more 😂
On the nuggets, it’s a little more complicated. As it stands now, the Nuggets are right at the second apron (189 mio). To make room for KCP’s raise from 16 to 20-25 mio, they need to clear cap. They traded Reggie which cleared 5.5 and they need to trade Nnaji who is at 8.8, so they would have 14 mio to work with. KCP gets 6 of that, Holmes the rookie gets 2 which leaves 6 mio for the final 3 players to fill out the roster. It’s all very tight, not a lot of wiggle room. The problems is MPJ is paid 36 mio and plays like a 25 mio player.
All that just to say MPJ's contact is terrible and that really hurts the team finances
Good call. Trade MPJ for PG.
The way most people feel about perk is how I feel about bontemps
Bontemps is the most accurate and honest of the 3, and he is able to properly elaborate his positions providing facts rather than a personal biased point of view. My flowers to him 🙌
These guys bicker like a family.
Like an old married couple.
I wouldn't change the pod group at all. I do like it when they have the coaches on and other guests at times, too.
Love it😂😂😂😂
Christian Braun and Peyton Watson are ready to step up. We will miss you KCP!
Bontemps is hard to listen to most pods
yup
He disagrees habitually.
Used to be that way but he grows on you. He is very well informed and is smart. He just is very New York in his personality.
He also interrupts constantly. Dude let them finish their point.
incorrect. Bontempts is hard to listen to;) :P . Now lay off our guy, we love you Bontempts!!! Hoop Collective nothing without each of these 3
You can't compare James Harden to anybody else. Like his step-back used to be, that guy is quite a unique character.
I bought an autographed laptop from Tim yesterday! Can't wait for it to arrive. What charity will the money go to?
ESPN insane coverage of Bronny is getting ridiculous, so many players with amazing stories and opportunities ahead of them and yet a late second round pick gets all the hype? Nepotism is a failures crutch, this is the case for Bronny.
It’s what everyone wants to see. You should remember basketball, tv, is all entertainment first. A competitive league second.
Im sick of it
10000% that's the league. The Lakers will have the storyline all season with this move. I couldn't understand why all the clapping and hand slapping like nobody knew he was going to be 55th pick. Lakers always into the propaganda. They love in Tinseltown, the story is set forever like the Bubble championship, 1st winners of NBA in season tournament, etc
You're delusional if you think this is nepotism. The kid has potential, he's athletic, smart, a good defender and a passer and will be surounded by a great coaching staff. If he got drafted top 10, then yeah, it would be too much, but 55th pick in a pretty weak draft? C'mon. The only reason people think he's not worthy of 55th pick is either because they compare him with his dad or they hate the fact he's LBJ's son.
Are we gonna pretend he's the first ex-NBA player's son to get drafted?
Stop it go talk about who you want to talk about on your channel
Windhorst cuts them off to much but then huffs when they chime back in or do it to him ..
It's his podcast.
@@MrOctober44 that’s nice… either do it alone or let the other speak too … it’s simple
28:47 then I guess we can’t have a conversation about it. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ He was crying because he knew he shouldn’t have ever gotten this opportunity in the first place. Lebron biggest accomplishment is being good enough to get this guy in the league.
Hey Brian and ESPN podcast crew. I know Jonathan Givoneys work more than you guys do and i can tell you with more certainty that this indeed was AI generated. I’ve been reading Jonathon’s articles for almost 15 years now and this is not him. Before ESPN hired him he’d do maybe 20 full scouting reports with videos and about 5-20 half articles with only scouting reports.
Now you guys required him to write more than 60 draft articles I say more than 60 because he did 58 for the draftees and there were about 5 players who were expected to be drafted in the lottery and went undrafted so he likely had articles for some of those written and ready to go that never were released.
I love Givoneys work, always have just get the man some real help because about 30 of your articles this year had the same exact strengths for all 30 players and only differentiation was the wording and how the sentences were phrased.
I don't know the stats on drafting older guys, but plenty of older draftees went on to do well in the NBA. Taj Gibson was 24 when drafted. Mutombo & Rodman were both 25. Knecht is just a few months older than Kenyon Martin & Draymond Green when they were drafted.
If you are old and getting drafted it actually means you are really good. Because they will count you out super fast just for being 22 or older.
The wolves part of this perfectly encapsulates the hoop collective. Tim says what he thinks with slightly optimistic and curious view, while bontemps takes the most negative even though he doesn’t have a better option and windy only brought it up to publicly admit concerns he’s been spewing aren’t real.
Bontemps is hilarious lol
They should rename this pod: "By the Way"😂
Worst thing denver can do is overpay kcp. How much production do they really lose playing Braun/others more and and/or getting a cheaper player to replace kcp? They need to find another piece anyway. Championship chemistry etc etc...well the team wasnt good enough last year so allowing some practical changes to happen makes a lot of sense.
Bontemps speak ls to truth and im not from NYC!
Ignorant comments: Some of the best NBA players spent 4 years in college, and some of the worst busts were drafted out of high school.
Even ESPN pixels are obsolete lol
I would rather have KCP than MPJ. At least KCP plays defense and stays engaged the whole time he's in the game. MPJ can shoot the lights out but that guy's head is in the clouds.
Nobody ever talks about how much money Dirk lost on taking “team friendly” contracts when he could have kept taking the MAX!
Udonis Haslem did that with Miami.
Udonis Hassles is a top 75 player? NBA MVP? 6th in all time points? Dirk was 100x the player UD was..... TERRIBLE COMP!
@@kohta20 He helped Heat win championships. I wasn't diminishing Dirk's greatness. Udonis don"t even had a 1/4 of Dirk's sponsorship $$$ so he likely earned way less throughout is 20yr career than what Dirk left on the table.
Get rid of Chris Paul . Warriors doesn’t need that short, old loser😂
Love the pod, BUT… Can’t you get better cameras and lighting?… The cable EarPods, Lol
The different volumes also
I just think about Donte’s contract vs what quickley got 🤯
Raptors overpaid
Get Bontemps OUT of this podcast PLEASE!!!
Nuggets are in big trouble if KCP isn't there. Christian cannot replace him even if the Nuggets pretend he can. They already lost the title this year, and Minnesota and OKC, their biggest threats got dramatically better
Can’t believe the players union signed off on this CBA…. Cap smoothing , aprons , limits on buyouts
timestamp reads *"OG ANNOY to sign 5 year contract"* 🤣
Can teams add cash into trades to even out the money?
No, adding cash doesn't change the outgoing salaries that are calculated in trades.
Interesting take on Bronny. I think two things can be true. #1 Bronny being able to hoop let alone walk is a miracle and #2 Bronny is getting an unprecedented amount of attention due to his surname. Which could either work in his favor or not. Time will only tell
*Klay and Dray need to get outta GS asap, its a sinking ship. wouldn't be surprised if Curry end up leaving either.*
Why would any team invest in Paul George. Haven't they watched his lack of impact on Clips. Paul George is more interested in talking about basketball on his podcast than actually competing for a title. He has been paid millions and is comfortable. No real desire.
No temps is such a debby-downer smh
yes temps
Losing KCP would be a big loss
Where is the “adios amigos” ending?
The grandstanding on brony is crazy… this tactic is to avoid criticism.
How could the clippers and gsw pull off a trade if both are over the cap? I assume one of these teams has to come under the cap to be able to take on more salary..
Clippers arent over the cap because PG13 and Harden are free agents. and Warriors have to move CP3 and Wiggins.
@@Shortballa11 they have cap holds until they let them go
DOPENESS for the James fam Queen Savanah! banner 19 for my Beantown Bombers in 12 months but respect LBJ's gangsta...Jay Williams on point!! BLACK NEPOTISM!
To me that makes them better
No one is paying CP3 30M this year
Disrespecting the Raptors again. They don't even bother commenting on Scottie Barnes' max extension
Why are you worried about U.S media hyping up our players? As an OG Raps fan I don't care. When we got Kawhi we weren't even favoured to get out of the East. Even during the chip run & we won. One of the most difficult run in 30 yrs to an NBA Finals. I like it when they don't talk about us.
Timothy "Well" Bontemps
There is so much nepotism in the NBA. The amount of coaches, executives, and players who have jobs because they’re related to a star. Everyone who hates LeBron is just using this to criticize him
Yo Bontemps…chill broski
"Calorie cap" 😂😂
If Lebron earned the right to ask for a player to be drafted, then what did Magic earn with his 5 chips for the franchise?😂 his entire immediate family, grandma included. Lebron has always influenced gms to do what he wants…but Reilly isnt a B, he said ‘bye’.
This new system is completely stupid because all players will do is take less money for less years and become an UFA more often to make up for lost money.
Windy said the Lakers 17th pick may be a disaster?
He did not..
The 2nd round was an absolute mess. Im pretty sure just about every team traded out of their pick atleast once sometimes more. Why does it need to be broadcasted lol
Rather it just be Windy here talking
Tim McMahon updated his webcam the other two should learn
Bontemps should shut up!!!
Brain’s “Hello and welcome…” needs to hit on the downbeat of the intro. If it doesn’t, I send it back
Wtw on Kennard
"hypothetical theory' ⁉ ...
Theoretical concepts are based on valid theories, but they may not necessarily have practical implications.
Hypothetical refers to something based on a suggested idea or theory. It involves assumptions and proposals.
No "Adios amigos ..." No thump up ... Jackson come back that newb producer cut it short!
Why are they acting like Reggie Jackson didn't have hella moments in the regular season when murray was hurt? his work during the regular season and teat playoff championship run earned him the taxpayer mle this season.....more money than GOD is a craaazy take bontempts
So they now over cap with randell
First Father & Son duo in the NBA is unprecedented. I hope bronny has a good career.
It is disgusting to be honest! Bronny should have stayed in college he is not a pro right now
@@grospipo20why when the lakers want to develop him? They obviously see him as a long term project like MOST 2nd round picks.
@@grospipo20Ma'am if your disgusted by that maybe you have a problem
@@grospipo20go to work shut up stay mad
@@Chiefmane1 bronny had the best training a kid could ask for! What can the lakers teach him that Lebron could not have taught. He is just not a pro!
International players get 1st and 2nd at the draft therefore for all americans it was the worst draft if not for Bronny. Yeah right.
3 French guys in the top 6.
I think they trade paul and resign clay and trade wiggins for big
If im philly i take zack for 19 million or pg at 49 million
"Tim aggregate Bontemps" 😅
I have watched O.G. since the day he entered the league in Toronto.
Please trust me when I write this that firstly I was both a fan and hater of his abilities on the court. He makes 1 bad play for every 2 good plays. Example like the most silly of turnovers, sliding and tripping regularly, and worst of all he misses huge amounts of games, way above the average player in the league.
As a Knick fan he was 25-5 (including playoffs). He instantly turned around the defense. He fit like a glove. He does miss alot of games but that’s why they picked up Bridges. You can monitor his workload and maybe reduce time on the court. However, the makes bad plays jab you can say that about EVERY single player in the league. While he was with the Knicks I didn’t see many routine mistakes. Injuries are his biggest issue but nothing that’s been like routine. Like Kristaps Porzingis has routine lower extremities injuries.
@@liferealgood This is why the NBA is now trash. We are talking about glorified role players..AND the fact that they make a lot of bad plays. I think people have forgotten what the word PROFESSIONAL means. It means performing at the highest SKILL level the vast majority of the time. NONE of these dudes do that, in this era. None of them. It takes Luka, for instance 30 shots to get 30 points. These dudes are ALL overrated.
If LeBron takes less than the max lol, cmon Brian Lebron is done competing, the lakers are all about the show now, he’s taking all the money and walking away into the sunset at some point.
Im not saying he not going to play
Windy is on a calorie cap
He used to be on the supermax but he is definitely looking healthier, good work windy keep it up mate
Wiggin adyton or vuc or gobert
I dont think he starter he a role player at best
Bontemps is the most outrageous hater in this industry it's insane
y'all are soft. Bontemps is awesome lol
They didn't cut CP yet?? I'm not paying him baby dodu he should be gone by the end of the day if not I'd be surprised 😂
This CBA that the players agreed to is wild.
But dont the gs got bird right to clay
Leave it to Bontemps
to have the only negative Dalton Knecht take.
A lot of analysts had him going later in the 1st. No one should have a problem with the Lakers taking him there as they're desperate for floor spacing. I disagree with him being a "steal," but I get it considering a lot of TV analysts had him going higher.
@@carter5377 Considering its a weak draft, I'd say it was a huge steal. If it were any other draft it would make sense.
@@Shortballa11 he couldn't play defense in college. Teams with higher picks avoided him because of this. I don't hate it for the Lakers, but I don't see this kid being anything more than a scorer off the bench. I don't agree with him being a steal at all. There were better overall prospects on the board
@@carter5377 scorer off the bench honestly could be better than most the top 20. This draft is projecting a lot of 7-8th guys or out the league together. We will know in 2 years or so
I pray CP3 ends up in San Antonio.. or even Harden just get him some lobs
You want the poisonous snake that is Harden around young players
@@MrOctober44 Maxy
Ive been saying Harden. He's learned to spot up shoot and it would be a great place to end his career.
@@MrOctober44 Yes, because he has finally humbled himself and everyone has respect for Pop
@@Shortballa11 re-learned smh. Harden used to have one of the best midrange jumpers until dantoni got to Houston and said only 3s and layups smh. Ruined harden
I feel like I’m watching the presidential debate all over again..😅
Right
I dont think he ready to play either
He getting max murry
Keep it coming clowns
He leaving because how lebron place it on him i dont think dlo got conference
shoutout zaire wade
Zack got over paid
I love you guys but c’mon. You don’t have to do that. And you know what I’m talking about. Or .. do you? If that’s the case you should let me know. As a fan I think I should know that
I don’t think Bontempts even attempts to understand what anyone is talking about including himself.
How embolden are you as white Men stating that a black man can't ask for the money that they're worth. If a basketball player feels that they are worth more They should get more. This is a business.
Tim bontemps…. Smh .. I like this pod but man he’s hard to listen to ….
Bontemps Lakers hate his kryptonite. Consistently sounds dumb AF. 🙃