Fellas, thank you so much for what you do.... I’ve been a huge fan of your Marvel Champions content.... great game.... huge magic fan.... glad to see you guys enjoy the old school.... I believe what you guys are doing is IMMENSE.... especially at such a novel time in our country’s history..... appreciate you guys being a CONSISTENT reminder of the things that are important.... friendship, dedication, and commitment to a task... teamwork makes the dream work.... and you guys are pushing all the right buttons
I don’t know how you guys don’t have even more subscribers than you already do. Fantastic stuff as always. MTG is my favorite game, and Commander is my favorite format, so I was hype to watch this. It was interesting to hear you balk against including resources in your deck, especially considering your vast experience with other games. I enjoyed your great perspective on the game. I too used to try to put fewer lands in my decks but would always get burned when I didn’t. Other games may do it differently, but to me it’s a part of the game. If you take out more land so you can have more “cool” cards, you won’t be able to use those cool cards because you won’t statistically draw enough lands to play them. That part of it is a numbers game basically. Deck building is in fact my favorite part of the game, perhaps even more than playing it. There’s such an art and strategy to it, and I can always refine my decks based on how they play. I love it. If you decide to play MTG again, I’d suggest using some of the preconstructed Commander decks. They aren’t top tier competitive, but they are usually fine tuned and balanced enough to be mildly competitive so you have a good, solid gameplay experience, which is incredibly important if you don’t have massive MTG deck building experience. Perhaps a few of the new Strixhaven commander decks coming soon? Just a suggestion. Thanks, and great vid!!
it's so interesting and honestly refreshing to see people who are familiar with card games but haven't been keeping up with Magic for the last twenty years play it and learn about all the mechanics that have been added over the years. It's so strange, but kind of neat, and a healthy reminder that Magic isn't the only way of thinking about and playing card games.
@1:55:00 when you took control of his Glenn you could have sacrificed it after attacking with it using the ability on the Salvager. It wouldn't add the counter on the same sacrifice during the window of Negan's ability. But it was close to being correct. This was funny to watch. I hope you guys continue with Commander. It is the only format me and my friends that played long ago actually play now. Other formats are just too expensive and not as fun. The smaller Commander format is also very cool. Close to what you guys did with 59 card decks instead of the 99 like EDH. But constructed instead of sealed. It is called Brawl. The best part of Commander is that it is now much easier to form decks because Wizards is now printing more Legendary Creatures to use. EDH gave players with old collections, that didn't want to spend massive amounts of money to build new decks and use cards that they only had 1 of, that were really fun to play. To comment on the @2:10:00 , Black has always been creature removal. The general curve is 2-4 mana. Green has always been Big creatures and mana ramp. Red is Burn, and/or Haste Creatures, Aggro Fast kill swarmish stuff. Blue is Control, slow your opponent, make unblockable creatures, IE flying. White is Life, and swarming tokens/ small creatures. The best are the Guilds that mix 2 colors and do it well. Please continue playing Commander Formats every so often. This was Awesome for me!
Do y’all think you’ll ever play Magic again? I understand if you don’t want to support it, but I really enjoy these talks, as well as seeing people play a game they aren’t too familiar with (that I am), especially with your experience with other card games, you have a completely different view of Magic than I may. It’s really hard to stray from the more popular, and widely available, trading card game I honestly think Commander would be the best format for the both of you, since it’s the least (possibly) expensive, but other formats could be fun too, especially since Wizards is coming out with Pioneer decks and other ways to get introduced to MTG. Pauper would be another great format, because it’s all cards printed at common, and the most a deck would cost is $100
Hey, any chance you guys make a video featuring the old Dune CCG? It seems like a great game, largely forgotten, and there's almost no content on the internet about it.
@1:08:00 Yeah, let's say Zach drew the one Plains in his deck of, what was it again, 50+ cards? LOL. Jokes aside, we've all been there. My first Marvel Champs game, I exhausted my hero when I played Attack/Thwart events, lol. (It said 'Hero Action:' so I thought I needed to exhaust it, lol)
Secret Lair is $100 for 5 cards and some tokens. This is why I quit Magic and started playing LCGs. But I just started playing Mtg again now that I can play jank Arena decks on my phone for free
Not ever having played MTG but of course being aware of it I was convinced this was an extremely expensive, elaborate April Fools joke until I googled it.
Casually? Yes. Competitively? No. The pool of competitively viable cards in any format is a fraction of the total card pool. You cannot build a unique competitive deck and expect a place at the top tables apart from dumb luck.
Watching two people unfamiliar with MTG try to figure it out is a treasure, but also an excise in patience.
Annoyingly whenever they guessed, they were always right!
Great to see you playing the classic. I think it would make a great once a month stream.
Fellas, thank you so much for what you do.... I’ve been a huge fan of your Marvel Champions content.... great game.... huge magic fan.... glad to see you guys enjoy the old school.... I believe what you guys are doing is IMMENSE.... especially at such a novel time in our country’s history..... appreciate you guys being a CONSISTENT reminder of the things that are important.... friendship, dedication, and commitment to a task... teamwork makes the dream work.... and you guys are pushing all the right buttons
That means a lot to us Darrell; thank you, truly.
I don’t know how you guys don’t have even more subscribers than you already do. Fantastic stuff as always. MTG is my favorite game, and Commander is my favorite format, so I was hype to watch this.
It was interesting to hear you balk against including resources in your deck, especially considering your vast experience with other games. I enjoyed your great perspective on the game. I too used to try to put fewer lands in my decks but would always get burned when I didn’t. Other games may do it differently, but to me it’s a part of the game. If you take out more land so you can have more “cool” cards, you won’t be able to use those cool cards because you won’t statistically draw enough lands to play them. That part of it is a numbers game basically. Deck building is in fact my favorite part of the game, perhaps even more than playing it. There’s such an art and strategy to it, and I can always refine my decks based on how they play. I love it.
If you decide to play MTG again, I’d suggest using some of the preconstructed Commander decks. They aren’t top tier competitive, but they are usually fine tuned and balanced enough to be mildly competitive so you have a good, solid gameplay experience, which is incredibly important if you don’t have massive MTG deck building experience. Perhaps a few of the new Strixhaven commander decks coming soon? Just a suggestion. Thanks, and great vid!!
Thanks for joining us and for the excellent comment!
Literally LoTR, DnD and MTG re wrote the entire world of fantasy books, games and roleplay in general
it's so interesting and honestly refreshing to see people who are familiar with card games but haven't been keeping up with Magic for the last twenty years play it and learn about all the mechanics that have been added over the years. It's so strange, but kind of neat, and a healthy reminder that Magic isn't the only way of thinking about and playing card games.
For simple, casual Magic I like Card Kingdom's $10 pre-constructed Battle Packs. Buy a few. Just open and play them against each other. Good times.
Vampire was a Garfield design.
I spent way too much time shouting "check the chat! check the chat!"
Thanks for the great vid (as always)!
i feel you lol
@1:55:00 when you took control of his Glenn you could have sacrificed it after attacking with it using the ability on the Salvager. It wouldn't add the counter on the same sacrifice during the window of Negan's ability. But it was close to being correct. This was funny to watch. I hope you guys continue with Commander. It is the only format me and my friends that played long ago actually play now. Other formats are just too expensive and not as fun.
The smaller Commander format is also very cool. Close to what you guys did with 59 card decks instead of the 99 like EDH. But constructed instead of sealed. It is called Brawl.
The best part of Commander is that it is now much easier to form decks because Wizards is now printing more Legendary Creatures to use.
EDH gave players with old collections, that didn't want to spend massive amounts of money to build new decks and use cards that they only had 1 of, that were really fun to play.
To comment on the @2:10:00 , Black has always been creature removal. The general curve is 2-4 mana.
Green has always been Big creatures and mana ramp.
Red is Burn, and/or Haste Creatures, Aggro Fast kill swarmish stuff.
Blue is Control, slow your opponent, make unblockable creatures, IE flying.
White is Life, and swarming tokens/ small creatures.
The best are the Guilds that mix 2 colors and do it well.
Please continue playing Commander Formats every so often. This was Awesome for me!
Do y’all think you’ll ever play Magic again? I understand if you don’t want to support it, but I really enjoy these talks, as well as seeing people play a game they aren’t too familiar with (that I am), especially with your experience with other card games, you have a completely different view of Magic than I may. It’s really hard to stray from the more popular, and widely available, trading card game
I honestly think Commander would be the best format for the both of you, since it’s the least (possibly) expensive, but other formats could be fun too, especially since Wizards is coming out with Pioneer decks and other ways to get introduced to MTG. Pauper would be another great format, because it’s all cards printed at common, and the most a deck would cost is $100
Maybe at some point, but it'll be a while for sure!
Glad you dug the video.
Hey, any chance you guys make a video featuring the old Dune CCG? It seems like a great game, largely forgotten, and there's almost no content on the internet about it.
It's on the list!
@@teamcovenant Wow, that's great! Looking forward to it!
oh no... did he not put any planes into his deck at all?
@1:08:00 Yeah, let's say Zach drew the one Plains in his deck of, what was it again, 50+ cards? LOL.
Jokes aside, we've all been there. My first Marvel Champs game, I exhausted my hero when I played Attack/Thwart events, lol. (It said 'Hero Action:' so I thought I needed to exhaust it, lol)
Secret Lair is $100 for 5 cards and some tokens. This is why I quit Magic and started playing LCGs. But I just started playing Mtg again now that I can play jank Arena decks on my phone for free
How did they go this whole time and never flip the camera? Lol loved the video anyway
Never thought I'd see the day...
Not ever having played MTG but of course being aware of it I was convinced this was an extremely expensive, elaborate April Fools joke until I googled it.
Oh no - guys! Secret Lair is EVIL!!!!!!!!!
How could you!?
Have you ever tried shadowrun?
Not yet! But we'd love to. It's on the throwback list.
Biggest reason to play Magic is the huge amount of cards available. Building unique decks not possible in any other card game.
Casually? Yes. Competitively? No. The pool of competitively viable cards in any format is a fraction of the total card pool. You cannot build a unique competitive deck and expect a place at the top tables apart from dumb luck.