Check this clip I just did if you think the paper one will not work with gravity feed! I know what "THE BOOK" says, but we need to try things on our own sometimes. No fuel pump and the tank I use only has about 1 cup of fuel in it. CLICK HERE ➜ th-cam.com/video/2lV6nWYNRDU/w-d-xo.html ✅Click here for GOOD filters ➜ amzn.to/3NTcjf5 For more videos like this, check out: 👉Straighten A Bent Lawn Mower Crankshaft With A Pipe ➜ th-cam.com/video/w2Ro9GmEyOE/w-d-xo.html 👉Fastest Way To Tell If The Crankshaft Is Bent On A Mower ➜ th-cam.com/video/3up57DHiCqs/w-d-xo.html 👉Here's Why Your Lawn Mower Is Leaking Gas - Honda Style ➜ th-cam.com/video/tp67AzWNbI4/w-d-xo.html 👉How To Adjust the RPM Speed on a Lawn Mower ➜ th-cam.com/video/7YrA3QEIFnE/w-d-xo.html You can connect with Steve here too: ✅Visit Steve’s WEBSITE ➜ www.stevessmallenginesaloon.com/ ✅Visit Steve’s PARTS & TOOL STORE ➜ www.amazon.com/shop/stevessmallenginesaloon ✅Follow Steve on FACEBOOK ➜ facebook.com/stevessmallenginesaloon ✅Follow Steve on INSTAGRAM ➜ instagram.com/stevessmallenginesaloon/ ✅Follow Steve on TWITTER ➜ twitter.com/SteveSaloon
I may start to use this clear paper element filter on some gravity feed riders. It will definitely keep more trash out of carb. Like I said Ive never tried this in fear of it may work now at the moment, but what about a week from now for some reason it just stops flowing fuel. Ive seen the 394358 fuel filter do this. Sometimes it will gravity feed, Sometimes it wont.
Im using the paper one. If you said I needed to go to the moon and back and that would fix it I would give it hell to try and get there! Ha ha ha lol you are excellent at fixing things and I appreciate it is what I'm saying thank you so much.
On the instructions that I got with my lawn tractor, I was advised that the (crappy) fuel filter was meant on machines that had no fuel pump, and the (good) filter was to be used with fuel pumps. I put the good one on anyway (I have no fuel pump) and have never had a problem with it.
@@evsnova74 What I have on all my gravity fed machines are the WHITE flat filters. They are 75 micron. I've never seen anything with the red 150 micron filter on it. While you can sometimes get away with one of the bullet-style paper filters on a gravity fed system, they are really designed for engines with a fuel pump. Use the white 75 micron flat filters on gravity fed systems and you'll not have any problems.
Wonder why some gravity-fed's have only a permanent mesh screen in the tank, like many in Honda's GCV line & Briggs Professional Series OHV (mine is 2011). Moreover, these are not manufactured with an in-line filter at all. I'm not sure if Briggs Quantum L-heads have a tank screen but the Quantum engine on several Toro's I have seen do not have an in-line filter. Yet the Briggs Intek on my gravity fed MTD tractor does seem to rely on an in-line filter but no sort of mesh in the tank (the type of tank that is strapped behind the engine with a big zip tie) that I can see. Hmmm.
awesome video, I bought a replacement carb for my snow tek snowblower and it came with that red fuel filter and I was skeptical, glad I found your video and thanks to you I just used your link to buy a good fuel filter and a new subscriber
Awesome beer Steve used to be my brand when I was still drinking.Had to stop due to health.Awesome to know about this filter, going to change mine out for sure.
Ex Infantry You can get good name brands of this size filter at your local parts store. The Fram part number is G4164 and they could cross it over to Purolator or another brand. The wix number is 33011 which is in my opinion superior quality.
I remember the first time I looked through one of those and thought, there's no filter in there, only to see the crappy screen with a magnifying glass. Great tip Steve!
On my Tractors, I use the "SUMMIT" Style that you can replace/clean the Filter Screen. ~$12.00 for Set, ~$7.00 for a 3 pack of Filters @ Auto Zone... Plus, they are clear so that you can check for fuel flow! Thanks Steve! 🤓 -Thomas
Thanx for this info Steve. I have not had too much trouble useing them but I was unaware that it’s just a screen. I will be replacing them all with actual fuel filters.
We always run these "strainers" in line before the "filter" to strain out larger debris.. However, not as a stand alone in a fuel system.. Thanks Steve 👍👊
Like the screen found in the old 70's Japanese motorcycle 3way fuel petcock. Most in the know added an aftermarket, high flow paper core filter after the petcock. Thanks for sharing .Well ... Time to tip back an original Corona...you know the one.. the one that does no harm. Best to you and yours.
Steve, your videos are absolutely awesome. Short, sweet, to the point, and accurate. (And they're usually funny too. Which never hurts!) I don't know if you make any $ on these videos or not. I hope you do. I know that there is a lot more time and effort put into producing these videos than most people realize. Thank you for taking the time and effort to educate people about small engines. I have saved hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of dollars because of you. Specifically on chainsaw stuff. Keep up the good work!
I have had some of those good filters that would starve a gravity fed machine. Worked fine on a fuel pump one. Might want to mention that if you've ever seen it. Great video!
I don't know why were that bothered. I've got stationary engines that are 115 years old an never had a filter, my lister is 75 years old, has a carb with a jet, a float bowl and butterfly. Same as your modern engine. No filter and it's never blocked. I put a paper one on my Hyundai generator and it failed to run. Gravity feed isn't enough, had to put a mesh one back on. Nearly didn't bother, but my pipe was already cut!
If those better paper filters get any moisture on them , it just kills the flow. Sometimes it's hard to see , and being cheap enough just swap it out. Try and drain it and see if anything nasty comes out.
@@michaelbamber4887 115 year old carbs are not "the same as your modern engine". Modern carbs have tiny passages that don't take much debris to plug them solid. Ancient carbs have gapping offices. If you have cleaned modern carbs, you would know what I am getting at. Unless you enjoy cleaning carbs regularly and having poorly running engines, you do need fuel filters.
I put the good filter on my generator a while back. I agree with your point, however, the good filter would not provide enough flow for my gravity fed generator. Had to go back to the screen.
Some people don’t pay attention to fuel filters glad you’re sharing it and wow what a difference. So many folks don’t understand that petroleum products come a long ways before they get to the gas pump when we get our fuel. Or even a can it is just magically get there it’s got a lot of containers to transport from and there’s not many filters between the final product and our small engines.
That's some good advice 😉 those little check valves, and that's pretty much all they are, aren't a proper gas filter at all and I'm getting rid of the ones on my mowers for the kind he showed ASAP
Steve very good advice . I have Lawnboy and it runs good but sum times wen I shout it off to empty the bag it won’t start what could cause this the plug is good ?
I’ve had several of those red filters spilt open on their own before. No need to cut them open. For that reason alone I stopped using them. The other one you showed is a good filter. I like how it can be used for both 1/4 and 5/16 fuel lines. It is my go to filter for most small engines. 👍
Good one Steve ...how about two cycle fuel filters? Comparing aftermarket to OEM has been done by others ...but do you have opinions on this? Thanks for all the great work.
Thank you for great advice, while it is probably true that these screens are meant for use on the gravity fed systems, I've got a Toro push mower that I used a fuel filter on and have had no issues since installed. True to say that not all of us take as good a care of our fuel systems as we should, also have added a filter to a Cub Cadet tiller with no issues, both of the engines are Kohlers.
Many Honda Trail 90s had a similar screen filter in the carburetor and no other in the tank or the lines. Guess what, after rebuilding the carburetor you can leave that one in the carburetor and put two of these better filters in line. One on the run position fuel line and another on the reserve position fuel line, maybe never having problems with that carburetor again. Staggering them works best. Good stuff.
Hey Steve! I remember my Dad getting too drunk to get up from the chair to the fridge and he would send me running to get him another Lucky at about age 4.I would open it for him and guzzle as much as I could before giving it to him. Either that or I would shake it vigorously and let him open it.I learned a lot of unusual English language when he got sprayed with beer. Great tip on the filter! CHEERS from Sooke City
correct i had one of these for small size and it let some whatever it was shut down my mower... thank you i got one of these on my tiller i will change it out now... and my mower never had a fuel filter at all from sears ??? and it plugged up so i installed that crap and it plugged up so i will change it now thank you...
I have both on my machine. I use the crappy one as a prefilter straight off the tank. It then goes to a better paper filter. The fuel pump on my machine then revives the fuel that gets sent into another filter before the carburator. Redundant you may say but works for me.
Thanks Steve, wish I knew this about filter a day ago. Ran rototiller out of gas and now isn’t running well. I did buy a filter today like you suggested. Hopefully I can find out what happened, more than likely jet has debris in it. Why do they put this junk on engines?
I “just” put one of those lil red filters on a snowblower line. There was No filter at all - before I put at least this cheapy on. But - I’ll go order a “good” one….because YOU Said So 👍🏻
For the price of a decent fuel filter it really is a no brainer. Any problems with the carb on a working saw is more than likely down to foreign objects getting throw the filter. Keep the tips coming as they save us amateurs and semi professionals a trip to the service/repair guys.
The red filter is for units with no fuel pump! If you use a filter on some units with out a pump they will not get enough fuel and run to lean! I've been a small engine tech for over 20 years and learned this the hard way! Great video tho Steve gets everyone talking and sharing!!!! God bless everyone and have a great week!!!!
Hi Steve. The space between gas valve and carburetor on my Duromax xp4400e is crazy small. No way can I fit a decent fuel filter in between. Was thinking about the junk filter you reviewed before watching. Any suggestions on tiny but effective fuel filter? Thanks. I’m a big fan.
Hey Steve! On those newer Briggs lawnmowers, the tank outlet is nearly directly coupled with those crappy new plastic carburetors. There is _very_ little space between them and I think no chance you'll get a filter installed in there. The problem is compounded by the fact those plastic jets get clogged by even the tiniest particles. Is there like a tank neck filter I could install on it like on some generators?
First thing i do when working on every customers equipment is recommend a fuel dump (usually 10%etoh pump gas) and replacing fuel hoses and putting on best fuel filter that will fit! Eeason for fuel line replacement is because alky gas causes rubber (even fuel hose) to flake off bits into fuel stream. Side note best investment i have ever made is printing up Rec 90 fuel only stickers. And placing them near fuel fill on all equipment. I also have printed on all my invoices that running any alcohol blened fuel will eliminate any warranty. If u suspect alky fuel u can always use a tattletale paste (they have them for detecting, water, alcohol, and several other contaminants) or just check any aluminum fuel part.
I feel the same way about those red filters. I order ones like you show there that have the metal cone instead of the paper but same kind of filtration. I also prefer the clear filter to be able to see if there is fuel in the line. A great troubleshooting tool. Engine dies and you look at the filter and it's empty you know it's out of gas. 😉
We use those same clear filters in my shop. We usually do what you suggested - replacing the red filters with the clear. I can say, though, that that does not ALWAYS work. We have done that in the past on tune-ups and the engine would run like shit. Tried cleaning the carburetor and everything else. Nothing worked. Finally, we took the clear filter off and put the red one it called for back on. Engine ran perfectly. Apparently, in some cases, the clear filters do noty let enough fuel flow. They need the less restriction of the red ones. So... tldr; In most cases, yes.. you are correct. In some fringe outliers, though... you may HAVE to stick with the red filters. Love your videos... Always learn something... or if not, at least I'm entertained :)
Just found your site because I want to refill my 1 pound propane tanks, thank you for the advice 🙂 Also, I like the Cross Cut Saw, well I like all saws... and in this close-up, your fingernails are nicer than mine 😞 🤣🤣
I agree those red fuel filters with no fuel direction arrows and different opinions about which way they should be installed are junk. However on gravity feed systems with no fuel pump, Does the flow rate to the carburetor change and become less with the paper type? Just do not want to switch filters and starve the carburetor of gas.
since we're talking fuel filters - i was told the reason my snowblower doesn't have either a fuel filter OR an airfilter, was because it was used in the winter, when there isn't any dust... so fair enough, but if a piece of equipment comes without a fuel filter, can you just add one? cut the fuel line and stick it in? seems to be a benefit... obviously not easy to add an airfilter...
If you put one of those junk fuel filters in an ultrasonic parts washer , then all that's going to happen is you're going to dissolve that little screen on the inside. I know, I've already tried just to see what would happen. So Steve ,you're the man for the job
I seem to have problems with the paper filters on my craftsman riding mower, they always run dry. Switched to the white 75 microns and got a better result but still eventually ran dry. I think the main issue is craftsman puts the bottom on the gas tank at the same level as the carburetor and do not have fuel pumps. Which just makes it run dry unless you have nearly zero flow restrictions. Im still have trouble with my mower because of poor fuel rate and filter filling with air even after installing new fuel lines and clamps.
Do you think that changing from the crap filter to a good paper filter will work okay for 2 strike? My old toro ccr2000 snowthrower has the crap fuel filter but being 2 stroke I'm not sure how that may if at all affect the oil mixture with the gas when it runs through the filter media.
Used to see screens like that on old Wisconsin engines, on top of the sediment bowl . ( I'm talking about older than you and me put together) I never did understand how a sediment bowl was supposed to work on a engine that would dance across the shop if not bolted down , maybe that's why the carbs had to be cleaned every year . And it always happened at - 40 , so you needed straight rye, not beer 😊
Just because I have the space, and because one of the red filters was included with a carburetor kit I bought, I use the red junk just after the fuel tank, and a proper paper(yellow) filter nearer to the carburetor. The yellow one will last longer, and the red one can be cleaned and reused forever. :)
Can I use that same inline fuel filter that u said was good for a 2 cycle engine? Or would the filter element absorb the oil initially and throw off the fuel to oil ratio?
Check this clip I just did if you think the paper one will not work with gravity feed! I know what "THE BOOK" says, but we need to try things on our own sometimes. No fuel pump and the tank I use only has about 1 cup of fuel in it. CLICK HERE ➜ th-cam.com/video/2lV6nWYNRDU/w-d-xo.html
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I may start to use this clear paper element filter on some gravity feed riders. It will definitely keep more trash out of carb.
Like I said Ive never tried this in fear of it may work now at the moment, but what about a week from now for some reason it just stops flowing fuel. Ive seen the 394358 fuel filter do this. Sometimes it will gravity feed, Sometimes it wont.
I also use the red because did not think would work on gravity feed, thanks for update clip!
I tried the better filter on my gravity feed 14 hp lawn tractor but it kept stalling out. Had to go back to the cheap screen type.
I run the paper style on my 250 cc vintage motorcycle with a rusty gas tank, works perfectly and you can see the fine rust chunks accumulate.
Im using the paper one. If you said I needed to go to the moon and back and that would fix it I would give it hell to try and get there! Ha ha ha lol you are excellent at fixing things and I appreciate it is what I'm saying thank you so much.
On the instructions that I got with my lawn tractor, I was advised that the (crappy) fuel filter was meant on machines that had no fuel pump, and the (good) filter was to be used with fuel pumps. I put the good one on anyway (I have no fuel pump) and have never had a problem with it.
Exactly! Me too....
I used one of those on an old gravely and when hot it wouldn't let fuel flow for some reason so I have to use these "crappy" filters.
@@evsnova74 What I have on all my gravity fed machines are the WHITE flat filters. They are 75 micron. I've never seen anything with the red 150 micron filter on it. While you can sometimes get away with one of the bullet-style paper filters on a gravity fed system, they are really designed for engines with a fuel pump. Use the white 75 micron flat filters on gravity fed systems and you'll not have any problems.
Yea that's a crock of shit it's good you ran the better filter 👍
Wonder why some gravity-fed's have only a permanent mesh screen in the tank, like many in Honda's GCV line & Briggs Professional Series OHV (mine is 2011). Moreover, these are not manufactured with an in-line filter at all. I'm not sure if Briggs Quantum L-heads have a tank screen but the Quantum engine on several Toro's I have seen do not have an in-line filter. Yet the Briggs Intek on my gravity fed MTD tractor does seem to rely on an in-line filter but no sort of mesh in the tank (the type of tank that is strapped behind the engine with a big zip tie) that I can see. Hmmm.
Steve is the best on giving true advice.
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SteveO, is the ONLY one I trust with small engine knowhow!!! Thank You for sharing your experience and knowledge my friend!! Jay 👍👍
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Great video!!! Thanks for the filter autopsy. Bam! You and Taryl are the best! Donyboy is good too! Great info!!!
You're right Steve O. I use those see thru ones on my lawn equipment and farm tractors
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Thanks Steve. I have one of those on my garden tractor. I'll be changing it this weekend.
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awesome video, I bought a replacement carb for my snow tek snowblower and it came with that red fuel filter and I was skeptical, glad I found your video and thanks to you I just used your link to buy a good fuel filter and a new subscriber
Glad it helped
Awesome beer Steve used to be my brand when I was still drinking.Had to stop due to health.Awesome to know about this filter, going to change mine out for sure.
Steve, I never thought of that, that way! Brilliant!
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Great video as always Steve.
Always helpful info and entertaining.
Please keep the videos coming buddy
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Thanks for sharing. The reviews on the filter you recommended from amazon had a bunch of bad reviews and photos of these breaking appart.
Ex Infantry You can get good name brands of this size filter at your local parts store. The Fram part number is G4164 and they could cross it over to Purolator or another brand. The wix number is 33011 which is in my opinion superior quality.
I listened to your advice and put the real fuel filter in my lawn mower and snowblower, now I feel safe. Thank you Steve.
Excellent!
I remember the first time I looked through one of those and thought, there's no filter in there, only to see the crappy screen with a magnifying glass. Great tip Steve!
I know, right?
On my Tractors, I use the "SUMMIT" Style that you can replace/clean the Filter Screen. ~$12.00 for Set, ~$7.00 for a 3 pack of Filters @ Auto Zone...
Plus, they are clear so that you can check for fuel flow!
Thanks Steve!
🤓 -Thomas
Thanks so much. I enjoy your videos. Hopefully I can visit Canada soon.
Please do!
Thanx for this info Steve. I have not had too much trouble useing them but I was unaware that it’s just a screen. I will be replacing them all with actual fuel filters.
Glad to help
Have a great weekend Stevo !!!
We always run these "strainers" in line before the "filter" to strain out larger debris.. However, not as a stand alone in a fuel system.. Thanks Steve 👍👊
Great idea....
Imma do that from now on
Like the screen found in the old 70's Japanese motorcycle 3way fuel petcock. Most in the know added an aftermarket, high flow paper core filter after the petcock. Thanks for sharing .Well ... Time to tip back an original Corona...you know the one.. the one that does no harm. Best to you and yours.
Love the honesty and the simplicity
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Sound advice (as always). Thank you Steve and stay safe.
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great advice Steve, but I must admit, I spent most of the time looking at the can of Lucky!
Fabulous information for us DIY guys. Thanks for sharing.
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Steve, your videos are absolutely awesome. Short, sweet, to the point, and accurate. (And they're usually funny too. Which never hurts!) I don't know if you make any $ on these videos or not. I hope you do. I know that there is a lot more time and effort put into producing these videos than most people realize. Thank you for taking the time and effort to educate people about small engines. I have saved hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of dollars because of you. Specifically on chainsaw stuff. Keep up the good work!
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I don’t even have gas powered gizmos & I enjoyed this. Your vid on how to string a weedeater was brilliant!
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Your right Steve. I wound up with some so I use these as a pre filters.
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Thank you Steve, this filter was causing problems for my Toro snowblower
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Great video Steve
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Always thumbs up content Steve!
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Great vid as always thanks for saving time and money you are the man!!!!
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Love the videos Stevie
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Steve always gives out good tips ,hope your tips works with horse racing cheers
Great advice, thanks again Steve.
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Great advice Steve.
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those proper ones are all i use. i definitely need to install more since i have some new equipment added to the ever growing collection.
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Good video as always!!!
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I have had some of those good filters that would starve a gravity fed machine. Worked fine on a fuel pump one. Might want to mention that if you've ever seen it. Great video!
Happened to me too. I have a thread on it on mtf
I've never seen anything with the red 150 micron filter. All my gravity-fed stuff uses the WHITE 75 micron filters.
I don't know why were that bothered. I've got stationary engines that are 115 years old an never had a filter, my lister is 75 years old, has a carb with a jet, a float bowl and butterfly. Same as your modern engine. No filter and it's never blocked. I put a paper one on my Hyundai generator and it failed to run. Gravity feed isn't enough, had to put a mesh one back on. Nearly didn't bother, but my pipe was already cut!
If those better paper filters get any moisture on them , it just kills the flow.
Sometimes it's hard to see , and being cheap enough just swap it out.
Try and drain it and see if anything nasty comes out.
@@michaelbamber4887 115 year old carbs are not "the same as your modern engine". Modern carbs have tiny passages that don't take much debris to plug them solid. Ancient carbs have gapping offices. If you have cleaned modern carbs, you would know what I am getting at. Unless you enjoy cleaning carbs regularly and having poorly running engines, you do need fuel filters.
I put the good filter on my generator a while back. I agree with your point, however, the good filter would not provide enough flow for my gravity fed generator. Had to go back to the screen.
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Very interesting! 👍
Some people don’t pay attention to fuel filters glad you’re sharing it and wow what a difference. So many folks don’t understand that petroleum products come a long ways before they get to the gas pump when we get our fuel. Or even a can it is just magically get there it’s got a lot of containers to transport from and there’s not many filters between the final product and our small engines.
Right on
That's some good advice 😉 those little check valves, and that's pretty much all they are, aren't a proper gas filter at all and I'm getting rid of the ones on my mowers for the kind he showed ASAP
I'll drink to that🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻👍. Another quick and easy one. Thanks buddy!!!🍻
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Thanks for sharing.
I saw those red filters being sold at Walmart under the Briggs and Stratton name for almost $5 each.
Once again, thank you Steve.
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Steve very good advice . I have Lawnboy and it runs good but sum times wen I shout it off to empty the bag it won’t start what could cause this the plug is good ?
I prefer this style of filter, but they sometimes are too big to fit so that they will gravity feed.
I’ve had several of those red filters spilt open on their own before. No need to cut them open. For that reason alone I stopped using them. The other one you showed is a good filter. I like how it can be used for both 1/4 and 5/16 fuel lines. It is my go to filter for most small engines. 👍
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Good one Steve ...how about two cycle fuel filters? Comparing aftermarket to OEM has been done by others ...but do you have opinions on this? Thanks for all the great work.
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Wow thanks I have them on a few motors.
Briggs had them made by Briggs.
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Thank you for great advice, while it is probably true that these screens are meant for use on the gravity fed systems, I've got a Toro push mower that I used a fuel filter on and have had no issues since installed. True to say that not all of us take as good a care of our fuel systems as we should, also have added a filter to a Cub Cadet tiller with no issues, both of the engines are Kohlers.
Right on
Many Honda Trail 90s had a similar screen filter in the carburetor and no other in the tank or the lines. Guess what, after rebuilding the carburetor you can leave that one in the carburetor and put two of these better filters in line. One on the run position fuel line and another on the reserve position fuel line, maybe never having problems with that carburetor again.
Staggering them works best.
Good stuff.
Hey Steve! I remember my Dad getting too drunk to get up from the chair to the fridge and he would send me running to get him another Lucky at about age 4.I would open it for him and guzzle as much as I could before giving it to him. Either that or I would shake it vigorously and let him open it.I learned a lot of unusual English language when he got sprayed with beer. Great tip on the filter! CHEERS from Sooke City
Beer hunter Eh, what a hoser ! I would have drank them all
I will replace the junk filter with the good one. Thanks for sharing!
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Amazon purchaser feedback ,many people no not like the filter. Thank you, Steve.
correct i had one of these for small size and it let some whatever it was shut down my mower... thank you i got one of these on my tiller i will change it out now... and my mower never had a fuel filter at all from sears ??? and it plugged up so i installed that crap and it plugged up so i will change it now thank you...
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I didn’t know lucky lager was being made again. Is any good? Good info on your video.
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I have both on my machine. I use the crappy one as a prefilter straight off the tank. It then goes to a better paper filter. The fuel pump on my machine then revives the fuel that gets sent into another filter before the carburator. Redundant you may say but works for me.
Thanks Steve, wish I knew this about filter a day ago. Ran rototiller out of gas and now isn’t running well. I did buy a filter today like you suggested. Hopefully I can find out what happened, more than likely jet has debris in it. Why do they put this junk on engines?
So Tru Steve!! Great video as always. We use Rotary #10352 on most equipment we service and never have any problems. Thanks STEVE !!!
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Thanks buddy. I will get rid of my now.👍👍👍👍👍
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Thanks for this 1 Steve ,I bought a bag of the red one's for like 8 bucks will order the better today, Well worth the money.
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I “just” put one of those lil red filters on a snowblower line. There was No filter at all - before I put at least this cheapy on.
But - I’ll go order a “good” one….because YOU Said So 👍🏻
For the price of a decent fuel filter it really is a no brainer.
Any problems with the carb on a working saw is more than likely down to foreign objects getting throw the filter.
Keep the tips coming as they save us amateurs and semi professionals a trip to the service/repair guys.
rockin' the mullet Stevie!...
Damn C19! Gonna have to cut it myself...
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloondo they still sell flow-bees? that vacuum cleaner/mini mower thing they used to sell on tv... what could possibly go wrong!?
The red filter is for units with no fuel pump! If you use a filter on some units with out a pump they will not get enough fuel and run to lean! I've been a small engine tech for over 20 years and learned this the hard way! Great video tho Steve gets everyone talking and sharing!!!! God bless everyone and have a great week!!!!
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Hi Steve. The space between gas valve and carburetor on my Duromax xp4400e is crazy small. No way can I fit a decent fuel filter in between. Was thinking about the junk filter you reviewed before watching. Any suggestions on tiny but effective fuel filter? Thanks. I’m a big fan.
Good evening Sir, yes in deed these are bad filter for sure !!!🤔😤😉 Thank you Sir and Keep up the good job Cheers !!👍🌞
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Thanks for the info.
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Hey Steve! On those newer Briggs lawnmowers, the tank outlet is nearly directly coupled with those crappy new plastic carburetors. There is _very_ little space between them and I think no chance you'll get a filter installed in there. The problem is compounded by the fact those plastic jets get clogged by even the tiniest particles. Is there like a tank neck filter I could install on it like on some generators?
First thing i do when working on every customers equipment is recommend a fuel dump (usually 10%etoh pump gas) and replacing fuel hoses and putting on best fuel filter that will fit! Eeason for fuel line replacement is because alky gas causes rubber (even fuel hose) to flake off bits into fuel stream.
Side note best investment i have ever made is printing up Rec 90 fuel only stickers. And placing them near fuel fill on all equipment. I also have printed on all my invoices that running any alcohol blened fuel will eliminate any warranty. If u suspect alky fuel u can always use a tattletale paste (they have them for detecting, water, alcohol, and several other contaminants) or just check any aluminum fuel part.
wow i had the junk one on my mower changing it tomorrow thank you Steve
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I feel the same way about those red filters. I order ones like you show there that have the metal cone instead of the paper but same kind of filtration. I also prefer the clear filter to be able to see if there is fuel in the line. A great troubleshooting tool. Engine dies and you look at the filter and it's empty you know it's out of gas. 😉
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We use those same clear filters in my shop. We usually do what you suggested - replacing the red filters with the clear. I can say, though, that that does not ALWAYS work. We have done that in the past on tune-ups and the engine would run like shit. Tried cleaning the carburetor and everything else. Nothing worked. Finally, we took the clear filter off and put the red one it called for back on. Engine ran perfectly. Apparently, in some cases, the clear filters do noty let enough fuel flow. They need the less restriction of the red ones. So... tldr; In most cases, yes.. you are correct. In some fringe outliers, though... you may HAVE to stick with the red filters.
Love your videos... Always learn something... or if not, at least I'm entertained :)
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How do the filters your recommending compare to the ones that drop inside the fuel tank?
You the man Steve!
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Nice video Steve … just need to know correct way to insert (inlet/outlet) …they should direction arrows on for to carb … thank U
That video is in my playlist....
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Just found your site because I want to refill my 1 pound propane tanks, thank you for the advice 🙂 Also, I like the Cross Cut Saw, well I like all saws... and in this close-up, your fingernails are nicer than mine 😞 🤣🤣
I agree those red fuel filters with no fuel direction arrows and different opinions about which way they should be installed are junk. However on gravity feed systems with no fuel pump, Does the flow rate to the carburetor change and become less with the paper type? Just do not want to switch filters and starve the carburetor of gas.
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since we're talking fuel filters - i was told the reason my snowblower doesn't have either a fuel filter OR an airfilter, was because it was used in the winter, when there isn't any dust... so fair enough, but if a piece of equipment comes without a fuel filter, can you just add one? cut the fuel line and stick it in? seems to be a benefit... obviously not easy to add an airfilter...
If you put one of those junk fuel filters in an ultrasonic parts washer , then all that's going to happen is you're going to dissolve that little screen on the inside. I know, I've already tried just to see what would happen. So Steve ,you're the man for the job
I seem to have problems with the paper filters on my craftsman riding mower, they always run dry. Switched to the white 75 microns and got a better result but still eventually ran dry. I think the main issue is craftsman puts the bottom on the gas tank at the same level as the carburetor and do not have fuel pumps. Which just makes it run dry unless you have nearly zero flow restrictions. Im still have trouble with my mower because of poor fuel rate and filter filling with air even after installing new fuel lines and clamps.
Do you think that changing from the crap filter to a good paper filter will work okay for 2 strike? My old toro ccr2000 snowthrower has the crap fuel filter but being 2 stroke I'm not sure how that may if at all affect the oil mixture with the gas when it runs through the filter media.
Used to see screens like that on old Wisconsin engines, on top of the sediment bowl . ( I'm talking about older than you and me put together) I never did understand how a sediment bowl was supposed to work on a engine that would dance across the shop if not bolted down , maybe that's why the carbs had to be cleaned every year . And it always happened at - 40 , so you needed straight rye, not beer 😊
I have a couple small engines that use screens like that for their fuel filters inside the carburetors. They’re designed that way.
Just because I have the space, and because one of the red filters was included with a carburetor kit I bought, I use the red junk just after the fuel tank, and a proper paper(yellow) filter nearer to the carburetor. The yellow one will last longer, and the red one can be cleaned and reused forever. :)
It's just a screen I get it. I need one to get the big stuff like grass and leaves from getting into the carb. It works for me.
My lawnmower and snowblower don't have a filter that I can see. Should I splice one into the fuel line?
Hey Steve, How is the best way to free a seized up motor on an echo string trimmer.
Can I use that same inline fuel filter that u said was good for a 2 cycle engine? Or would the filter element absorb the oil initially and throw off the fuel to oil ratio?
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Hi steve most small engines don't give you the room to install anything but the little red filter, any suggestions.
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