It's time, Steve. Get a Corsair 1600i. Get two ROG STRIX 3090s in OC mode at 480W. SLI them with a HEDT CPU like 3970X or 10980XE (...Maybe not this one) and load up your system with fans, accessories, and a water pump. Wear bomb disposal Flak Jacket just incase PSU explodes.
Their control panel system hasn't received a visual update in a very long time. It's also pretty slow to load and save settings in my experience, and generally feels clunky when trying to change something as simple as Vsync or power settings. Per-game performance tuning is pretty slow going, because again it is pretty slow to get the game's profile loaded up. At least adding OpenGL applications as games (think like Minecraft Java edition) actually works properly with Nvidia cards. Of course, my most recent NVIDIA GPU is a 960M so maybe something has changed to improve this. On an AMD system, you flip a switch and you don't have to click an "apply" button so you can wait while it applies your settings. It just works (with the exception of Minecraft Java Edition at the least. Radeon Chill at the very least definitely doesn''t work, and I haven't really tested the other settings). I don't know enough about the science to tell you whether this is more or less difficult to program and make stable. All I know is that it's easier on the eyes and feels more responsive.
Should see the x server config on nvidia's Linux drivers, they haven't changed that probably since they made it, will give you an idea how much they care about updating their config utility.
@@PotatotheTroll It's exactly the same on a RTX 2070 so no changes there. I haven't had it crash though which I do hear occasionally happening on AMD (though I'm really not sure if that's just user error). Fun thing is this control panel from Nvidia sometimes also shows me old coverage sample modes for MSAA in older titles which aren't supported by my GPU and therefore render a black screen when opening the game 😆
@@MLWJ1993 AMD's adrenaline suite is godly. Modern and things just work for the most part outside of odd cards having driver/hardware level issues. With my RX480 and Radeon VII (swaps) even I personally havent run into any issues. Personally I wouldn't touch Chill becuase I pushing both cards so not sure if that issue is card specific. It is definitely a notorious thing that most "normal level" users arent keeping other drivers, software, and chipsets up-to-date which do sink their tentacles into gpu stability and the like. Did have some 'stand in' Nvidia GPU when I had to rush this build into service 3 years ago. Some $40 gpu from best buy. That outdated, laggy, XP era control panel was just that. The same as our ancient Gateway family PC. Shameful, even with all their resources they can't be botherd to bring that into modern times, even on the pro side (just what?) while a company on the brink at the time made a point of fixing the Radeon Control Center among other things.
@@ieatchickens In the defense of SLI, I generally was able to skip every other generation by just doubling up a card later. A pair of 1080's took me far and saved me much as an early 4k guy.
@Jerel Wayne Most definitely they would rather I had thrown the first 1080 in the trash and spent 1200 on a 2080Ti, but 600 for a second card worked more or less as well for my needs
Definitely will get. I need to play Strange Brigade at a resolution and frame rate no monitor can support on a PC that looks like a disembowelled Wall-E.
I'd genuinely be a little shook if I walked in on someone playing strange brigade wrapped in that nest of cables. Something not fit for human eyes about the whole scenario
Hundreds of thousands to a million or more, Linus can get 5M views for a video with a pretty thumbnail, a click bait title and a topic like 88" OLED BFGD (sponsored by LG). GN has lost my respect a lot this year, pitty
Steve (and most other TH-camrs mind you) has to pander to the lowest common denominator otherwise he won't be getting views/ad revenue. It's his job, after all.
@@paulhoeksema7200 and then stitching up my bleeding side from black market selling my kidney to get two 3090's from some shady person in an alley that looks like Jesus.
Expensive : Most difficult part is drilling Holes and inserting screw and Nuts, and filling up with liquid praying it will not break and create problems for the future.
A bridge is actually pretty handy in several 3D rendering scenarios. While you don't get a performance gain, you pool the memory of both cards (with NvLink, not the old SLI). That means you can render larger scenes. This is specifically significant for rendering volumes (clouds, smoke, fire etc.) that are often massive cache files which has to fit all in GPU memory. Hitting 24 gigs of VRAM on a production scene isn't too hard. Same goes for OpenCL accelerated simulations, which are also are getting very popular within 3D packages.
@@Shyverin "I know you're joking" why reply 😅. I legit don't really care if they could or not either. Giveaway ect. I'm in the market for a 5800x so thats my big upgrade. Im completely skipping the 4000 series too 😉
Wait this was tested on a 10700K instead of a 16 PCIe lane system? This test in invalid already. Yes sli has its down falls, but it needs to be tested on x299 with more PCIe lanes for bandwidth reasons 16 lanes per card....
@Miss Jae I believe this comment chain began about the ram shackle assembly of the test bench, not the components themselves. At least that is what I was referring to. But you go ahead and act like you have brain cells to rub together despite not seeing the apparently clear to all but you context of the comments themselves. Fucking smooth brain.
@@GamersNexus I do too ❤️ tripping looking at the wire jungle it's must be a a little too much work trying to disassemble that thing than setting it up .😁
now imagine this would still be possible with 3060s. They would probably outperform a 3090 for a fraction of the price. That's why Nvidia doesn't want it.
Your constant dry humour is beyond fantastic, im just sat here giggling at my desk in the office. I honestly don't bother with any other tech TH-cam channels as I love how you go into such detail about basically everything without the bullshit, your content is by far the best ive come across, never change.
I kinda want to see 8k benchmarks with this set up. "back in the day " 5+ years ago 4k had pretty stellar scaling when it worked. I am wondering if it's true now for 8k. But yeah mgpu is dead for normal consumers frustratingly enough.
@@GamersNexus Do you think you lost any performance from the PCIe lane limitation of Z490? I'd imagine you'd want X299 or TRX40 platform to get the most out of this setup if you were rich or crazy enough to get (2) 3090's.
What's actually in an SLI bridge? Is it just a parallel ribbon cable with a couple of card edge connectors? If so then making a flexible SLI bridge could have saved you a lot of yak-shaving effort -- you know when you put down the razor and the yak looks at you over its shoulder and you say to yourself, "You know, this isn't what I started out to do this morning..."
@@robertsneddon731 Back in the early days of SLI they were actually flexible ribbons like the cables you see inside of laptops or phones. I don't know why they moved on to unflexible plastic bridges.
I'm sad sli didn't become a thing, would give more interesting upgrade paths and could be a way around some of the physical limits computing will come up against.
It definitely was a thing: 8800/9800 GTX SLI Dream! :) And the scaling was great (for most games with support). I'm amazed Nvidia is not continuing to support and promote this feature. And I can guarantee it has something to do with money, because there was little incentive outside of customer upgrade convenience and inquiry when it launched. Very sad, and the original developers are probably very disappointed. The SLI concept is phenomenal.
Yeah, it's a shame because it is still very much needed technology. Even today with a 3080 I simply cannot max out my 1440p monitor 144hz aka getting average 144fps+ on many games. 4k obviously even worse. If SLI was properly supported then a lot of people would be looking at SLI hungrily.
@@OhManTFE exactly why i’m still on 1080p. Idiots keep saying x card is “overkill” for 1080p. The fact is.. nothing is overkill if you want 144fps. Even more so if you want 240fps. 1080p 240fps requires better hardware than 4k 60.
They say one day we will jump in computing, like we did from the 9000 series to the 100 series up to the 980, then to the 1000 series... but no, we are already there, 500fps, nuts!
@@thomassmith4999 What the hell are you talking about? The new consoles are not out, and there's been 0 announcements about a next gen RDR2 patch, much less performance details. On consoles the game uses customized settings, mostly around Medium, some stuff is below PC's lowest settings.
Ofcourse what did you expect . And this is with Riser cards and No pcie 4.0 ( LOL) And its only 4k . You wont believe your eyes how great these cards perform in native 8k!
I mean... It's free real estate.. Jokes aside. They properly optimized their game unlike every other company. And they get free advertising. It's a win for them.
They also made Control and Sniper, both of which we highly praised. Did you also notice that we praised SBR for optimization? Or Sniper for like 4 years? It's just a joke about the player count because you all - the viewers - invariably scream in the comments of we test games "no one plays," so this accounts for everything. We praised the optimization, we joked about play base. Everyone should be happy now.
@@shwabbaa5728 no, Flightsim dosnt support SLI, atleast not 1000 series :P Load times double tho. *edit, and I guess you could just use 3 monitors pr card instead for a better experience
That moment when your pc hogs power like an active electric kettle. Difference be your e-kettle only runs for 4 minutes when you need to heat your self some hot water... imagine the electricity bill running this unit for 8+ hours per day
you dont have to imagine, its easily calculated. I Paid 9cents per kilowatt-hour last month, so if I were to run a PC that was running full time using Steve's config in the video(~1000 watts), thats 1 kilowatt times 8 hours times 9 cents per kilowatt-hour = 72 cents a day or about ~22 bucks a month.
I would love to see Blender performance stats with two FE cards, as that is what I plan on doing. In general though, I think there is a good portion of us doing Blender work to support benchmarks on various setups. Thanks!
That setup is like some of my builds when I'm doing it with components that I just had laying around and didn't know if they worked or not so I'm doing the testing while I'm building.
Frankly, I think your SLI test bench set up is a thing of beauty! Also, I really enjoy the good-natured rivalry between Gamers Nexus and JayzTwoCents. It's one of the things that convinced me to subscribe to both channels.
Just as a quick FYI here GN, (game dev here) actually implementing explicit multi gpu support in DX12 is actually shockingly simple. Getting good scaling out of it does require some engine forethought, but if this was implemented natively into Unreal or Unity (which it could be) then support could grow quickly. Also due to the completely different (and much better) way that frames are rendered compared to SLI, you will generally not get micro stuttering OR a increase in latency.
I just ordered a 3090 sli system (ordered for the first time from an SI because I can’t get my hands on GPUs otherwise). I’ve had SLI systems since the 3-way GTX 480 and it’s sad to see SLI support land where it has today. There are some older games I still play with SLI support (Destiny 2, WoW, GTAV) that is hoping to get at close to a locked 4K 120hz. That being said, this will probably be my last SLI system. As always, great content and just because of this video on SLI I will join your Patreon. Thanks for all that you do in the industry.
@Clayton Jones, I’m also interested in 2* 3090’s but from what I’m reading here I don’t think it will work in older games. Just the ones listed on Nvidia’s website in this video. So unless Nvidia changes things you won’t be able to play most of the older games with SLI support that is currently working on 20 series and older GPU’s. I didn’t know this either until the 3080/90 launch and it ruined my plan of increasing my FPS to the max on newer and older games.
SpideyDiG I don’t think that’s what they are saying in this article. They’ve never broken SLI backwards before so I doubt that would be the case now. I’ll still roll the dice. I can always take one out of the loop and throw it in an eGPU or another system.
I actually think this is exactly what Nvidia did here is ruin backwards compatibility for 3080/90 series in most games won’t support SLI. So you will only be able to play a handful of games listed on Nvidia’s website. None of them I’m too interested in playing so this is a real let down for me and SLI support. I don’t want to have to go out and buy 2* 2080 Ti’s used when I had my mind set originally on a dual 3080/90.
Well, every rewiew I have seen makes a note that it isn't, unlesss you use it as a work computer. 2X3080 would have been fun to see, kicking ass with one 3090 in games, but nah, they didn't want that to be an option.
Well, Nvidia initially said it was a workstation card, not targeted at gaming...then they went and shot themselves in the foot by boasting about 8k gaming 😂
Even with Nvidia doing stupid marketing calling the 3090 a “gaming card”, the 3090 is an absolute revolution in productivity for price. The gaming space advanced in a magnitude of 1 (price to performance) with the jump to Ampere. The dev/production space advanced by a magnitude of 3.5 (price to performance) yet no one is talking about it... and it’s Nvidia’s fault. Ampere cards and rendering machines will REVOLUTIONIZE the workplace.
Looking at the benchmarks, it would seem only software that is built to take advantage of SLI really benefits, as we saw from Strange Brigade Vulkan, native 4k and 362.5 frames per second is some what impressive! It really is down to the developers, if they do not focus on SLI tech, it really is 50% wastage on GPU performance.
mGPu doesn't usually use alternet frame rendering like s.l.i & crossfire did. Alternet frame rendering was known to have issuse of stuttering ever since it came out 18 years ago. Reviewers are the one who said it had the highest possible playable fps & good loading on both cards. Having equal load on the cards means nothing, if the frames times aren't consistant ( a.k.a 1% lows & 0.1%) Most mGPU rendering use scissor or splitscreen rendering were one card rends the top & the other renders the bottom. This mean one card is going to have less load because it's only rendering the sky mostly while the other card is renering a lot more geomorety from the ground. The benifit comes in the frame times being mroe constistant.the down side is that it won't produce as high a frame rate as atlernet frame rendering.
Thank you for doing this. As an SLI user since day one, I guess my 2080Ti setup is the end of the line for me. Time to go back to using only one card on my next build.
How about a deeplearning benchmark in SLI mode? I think that had to be one of the most important ones, since it has always been said that this card is meant to be for professionals :)
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Steve: "Total system power was 360 watts-"
Me: "Hey, that's pretty good!"
Steve: "-idle..."
That CPU overclock and all those peripherals were driving it through the roof, but especially the CPU settings with all the power controls disabled!
It's time, Steve. Get a Corsair 1600i. Get two ROG STRIX 3090s in OC mode at 480W. SLI them with a HEDT CPU like 3970X or 10980XE (...Maybe not this one) and load up your system with fans, accessories, and a water pump. Wear bomb disposal Flak Jacket just incase PSU explodes.
@@Nukerunin damn do you want him to bring down the citys power grid
@@GamersNexus Get two external GPU enclosures, each with their own power supply lmao.
@@Nukerunin 3970X? Why dream so low? Go for a 3990X
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
SLI....Finds a way
Sli = life
Do you talk about the atomic bomb or the 3090? Similar heat output.
"Now I am become death, destroyer of Jay"
I got SLI working in Dolphin & PCSX2 emulators, using DX11 renderer.
those 30 people playing strange brigade is all youtubers benchmarking cards
Oooof.
So it's a bit of like Ashes of the Benchmarks
@@Pasi123 wink wink xD
@@Pasi123 strange benchmark
There also happens to be 30 dislikes. Coincidence? I think not
"This game has as many players, as Linus has employees" :)
That many? 🤣🤣
Linus also said he was hiring, lol
Well now we know which game Linus forces his employees to play to get hosting duties. Or maybe it's to get time off.
The jankiness of this setup is getting to LTT levels
And he didn't order any parts from Wish to make it happen
@@Machistmo jankyfulnessity
The irony of it is that LTT just used two founder's and looked pretty clean in the end lol
@@BartokandBadIdeas no they used two ROG Strix 3090s
That test bench is screaming “kill me, have mercy”
kiiiiiil meeee
Reminds me of Marie Curie in Clone High
Later.
Mitty, arigatoina........ Reg yatte kore...
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Your omnipotence. Have mercy!
That DIY benchmark setup is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a long time... lol
I can't look away...
I mean I tried...watching sideways now
I hope to build something similar in the future.
Talk about sketchy 😂
It's like an horrible accident.
You can't look away.
The piece of cardboard really brings it all together
Now this is a proper way to issue a challenge.
And my god, that setup is one of the most beautifully jankiest things I've ever seen.
Mom : What was that junk in your room ?
Me : It was important stuff mom
Mom : I threw it away in trash
Me : (๑•﹏•)
Mom : ^_^
@@arfuzzaman I had around 3pounds of stuff from the hardware store in a McDonalds bag in my room. Exactly this happened...
The challenge being making a non janky version
The fact that that SLI config utility still uses the Windows XP icons shows you how much they give a shit about SLI these days LOL.
Their control panel system hasn't received a visual update in a very long time. It's also pretty slow to load and save settings in my experience, and generally feels clunky when trying to change something as simple as Vsync or power settings. Per-game performance tuning is pretty slow going, because again it is pretty slow to get the game's profile loaded up. At least adding OpenGL applications as games (think like Minecraft Java edition) actually works properly with Nvidia cards. Of course, my most recent NVIDIA GPU is a 960M so maybe something has changed to improve this.
On an AMD system, you flip a switch and you don't have to click an "apply" button so you can wait while it applies your settings. It just works (with the exception of Minecraft Java Edition at the least. Radeon Chill at the very least definitely doesn''t work, and I haven't really tested the other settings). I don't know enough about the science to tell you whether this is more or less difficult to program and make stable. All I know is that it's easier on the eyes and feels more responsive.
Should see the x server config on nvidia's Linux drivers, they haven't changed that probably since they made it, will give you an idea how much they care about updating their config utility.
@@BBHexKey yep I work in Enterprise IT their vgpu config, driver and licensing server process is a fucking mess
@@PotatotheTroll It's exactly the same on a RTX 2070 so no changes there. I haven't had it crash though which I do hear occasionally happening on AMD (though I'm really not sure if that's just user error). Fun thing is this control panel from Nvidia sometimes also shows me old coverage sample modes for MSAA in older titles which aren't supported by my GPU and therefore render a black screen when opening the game 😆
@@MLWJ1993 AMD's adrenaline suite is godly. Modern and things just work for the most part outside of odd cards having driver/hardware level issues. With my RX480 and Radeon VII (swaps) even I personally havent run into any issues. Personally I wouldn't touch Chill becuase I pushing both cards so not sure if that issue is card specific. It is definitely a notorious thing that most "normal level" users arent keeping other drivers, software, and chipsets up-to-date which do sink their tentacles into gpu stability and the like.
Did have some 'stand in' Nvidia GPU when I had to rush this build into service 3 years ago. Some $40 gpu from best buy. That outdated, laggy, XP era control panel was just that. The same as our ancient Gateway family PC. Shameful, even with all their resources they can't be botherd to bring that into modern times, even on the pro side (just what?) while a company on the brink at the time made a point of fixing the Radeon Control Center among other things.
He has Nvidia's entire stock in one computer!
Y’all need to run this dual setup on a 8k to see if we can break 60fps on anything
Tim ladewig plenty of videos of games ruining 55-75 FPS at 8k
exactly
Paul Ronan native 8k?
@@paulronan6770 you mean aside from Doom Eternal? Lol. Dynamic resolution scaling or DLSS doesn't count. :)
@@asplmn doom doesn't support DLSS.
and the tests were on native 8K not dynamic
Finally, the People's GPU configuration for the Everyman
@@ieatchickens In the defense of SLI, I generally was able to skip every other generation by just doubling up a card later. A pair of 1080's took me far and saved me much as an early 4k guy.
@Jerel Wayne Most definitely they would rather I had thrown the first 1080 in the trash and spent 1200 on a 2080Ti, but 600 for a second card worked more or less as well for my needs
yeah mate, i need it for minecraft and among us ! can't wait to get 2 of these
@jackb lmao I had two GTX 670 4GBs that carried me well into 4k era until I got a R9295X2 and then a 1080ti
@@ieatchickens my hole setup with motorized table, good chair, all the peripherals, high end-ish pc, all was like 2.5k€..
“This was done because we could.”
Nuff said!
(Aperture Science) Nvidia , we do what we must because we can
That's the most ghetto setup I've seen. I like it
Wsh kenshin sur une vidéo de gamer Nexus 😂
je vois que Kenshin est un homme de culture
Well clearly you've never seen the scrapyard wars budget water-cooling PC's then have you
@@connortremblay1259 lol
Yeah gotta love this setup
“Give Jay something to do” 😆😆
Yeah, he should start with apologizing! And end it with deleting his channel, such a fraud.
@@daktaklakpak5059 why what happened
No
@@jaidormi How does it feel to have a fetal alcohol syndrome sufferer earning probably 5-10x what you make?
They're buds
Definitely will get. I need to play Strange Brigade at a resolution and frame rate no monitor can support on a PC that looks like a disembowelled Wall-E.
I'd genuinely be a little shook if I walked in on someone playing strange brigade wrapped in that nest of cables. Something not fit for human eyes about the whole scenario
@@TomO-lh9bx he would end up really being a ghost in the shell.
... I'll see myself out.
I laughed at this for a solid 5 minutes.
Caribou Goo hahahahaha
Holy hell, that’s very definition of functionality over form.
Apple users: 👁️👄👁️
It has personality
@@shinyhappyrem8728 like Apple users ever cared about functionality
Beautiful, isn't it? I love janky, scrappy builds like this. The more jank, the better.
“Some of these games we’ve even heard of” 🤣🤣🤣
He's trying to hijack some of Linus's 'kid crowd' with his troll comments and thumbnails lately
Hickory Dick Do little kids really watch this stuff though? I feel like they don’t give af what’s in their system as long as it works.
Hundreds of thousands to a million or more, Linus can get 5M views for a video with a pretty thumbnail, a click bait title and a topic like 88" OLED BFGD (sponsored by LG).
GN has lost my respect a lot this year, pitty
No kids are watching this guy for 30 minutes straight lmao
Steve (and most other TH-camrs mind you) has to pander to the lowest common denominator otherwise he won't be getting views/ad revenue. It's his job, after all.
So the most difficult part of a 3090 sli setup is finding two of the same card to buy then?
And then getting a bridge the right length, assuming they make it in that length.
@@alexwalker2582 and then finding a game that supports it.
@@UnhingedSystems and then having a monitor good enough to run it
@@paulhoeksema7200 and then stitching up my bleeding side from black market selling my kidney to get two 3090's from some shady person in an alley that looks like Jesus.
Expensive : Most difficult part is drilling Holes and inserting screw and Nuts, and filling up with liquid praying it will not break and create problems for the future.
A bridge is actually pretty handy in several 3D rendering scenarios. While you don't get a performance gain, you pool the memory of both cards (with NvLink, not the old SLI). That means you can render larger scenes. This is specifically significant for rendering volumes (clouds, smoke, fire etc.) that are often massive cache files which has to fit all in GPU memory. Hitting 24 gigs of VRAM on a production scene isn't too hard. Same goes for OpenCL accelerated simulations, which are also are getting very popular within 3D packages.
Wow GN has the entire supply of Ampere cards in their office.
Right? If all these reviewers threw their cards on the market it would be a little less scarce 😅 I'd rather have the content though.
@@Dr.RichardBanks I know you're joking, but a million people learning what card to get >>> 100 more people having cards
@@Shyverin "I know you're joking" why reply 😅. I legit don't really care if they could or not either. Giveaway ect. I'm in the market for a 5800x so thats my big upgrade. Im completely skipping the 4000 series too 😉
@@Dr.RichardBanks Well I got news for ya. AMD is announcing the 5000 series next week.
@@PlayinWithMahWii isnt it the 6000 series?
I was just looking for a 3090 sli video.
I know right?
ALOT POWER.
I'm only at 2x 1080tis
7:55 boy that is the (glances at own rig) 2end sloppyest job in cable management in a build ive yet seen lol
@J-Dawg be nice
3rd. Nothing beats the Verge
@@StriKe_jk maybe verge's is first, we don't know what position is his own rig
Comment of the day right here
🤣🤣
LMFAO. I feel this
"Steve, there is no way anything is going to line up."
Steve "Hold my bike. It is time to summon forth the Franken-bench."
The test bench is clearly screaming in agony.
Wait this was tested on a 10700K instead of a 16 PCIe lane system? This test in invalid already. Yes sli has its down falls, but it needs to be tested on x299 with more PCIe lanes for bandwidth reasons 16 lanes per card....
It's suffering is plain to see for all. It is begging for the end.
@Miss Jae I believe this comment chain began about the ram shackle assembly of the test bench, not the components themselves. At least that is what I was referring to. But you go ahead and act like you have brain cells to rub together despite not seeing the apparently clear to all but you context of the comments themselves. Fucking smooth brain.
@@Multimeter1 what
@@themidnightanimal1555 ?
That setup looks absolutely horrendous.
I love it.
We love crazy setups!
@@GamersNexus I do too ❤️ tripping looking at the wire jungle it's must be a a little too much work trying to disassemble that thing than setting it up .😁
Respect to GN for (almost?) never having TH-cam ads disrupting their videos. Thank you, Steve.
Ahh, finally a practical review that reflects my needs as a reasonable consumer. I'll take two, please!
now imagine this would still be possible with 3060s. They would probably outperform a 3090 for a fraction of the price. That's why Nvidia doesn't want it.
Your constant dry humour is beyond fantastic, im just sat here giggling at my desk in the office. I honestly don't bother with any other tech TH-cam channels as I love how you go into such detail about basically everything without the bullshit, your content is by far the best ive come across, never change.
“Some of these games... we’ve even heard of!” Was a much needed belly laugh. Steve you’re my absolute favorite.
I kinda want to see 8k benchmarks with this set up. "back in the day " 5+ years ago 4k had pretty stellar scaling when it worked. I am wondering if it's true now for 8k. But yeah mgpu is dead for normal consumers frustratingly enough.
Multiply the scaling factor by the single gpu result we published in our 8k video. Same effect.
@@GamersNexus Do you think you lost any performance from the PCIe lane limitation of Z490? I'd imagine you'd want X299 or TRX40 platform to get the most out of this setup if you were rich or crazy enough to get (2) 3090's.
The SLI Bridge this year is literally in the shape of an hour glass. Perhaps a nod towards SLIs end is near.....
Clever bastards that's for sure.
No its for the hours of wait to get a dam 30series card. More if you want to run sli
No it’s the symbol of the 30 series Founder Edition shape
Reminds me of the icon besides mouse courser whenever Windows XP use to become unresponsive or not responding. LOL
What's actually in an SLI bridge? Is it just a parallel ribbon cable with a couple of card edge connectors? If so then making a flexible SLI bridge could have saved you a lot of yak-shaving effort -- you know when you put down the razor and the yak looks at you over its shoulder and you say to yourself, "You know, this isn't what I started out to do this morning..."
@@robertsneddon731
Back in the early days of SLI they were actually flexible ribbons like the cables you see inside of laptops or phones. I don't know why they moved on to unflexible plastic bridges.
That's some blood-sweat-and-million-dollar-ducttape we love to see steve
I'm sad sli didn't become a thing, would give more interesting upgrade paths and could be a way around some of the physical limits computing will come up against.
It definitely was a thing: 8800/9800 GTX SLI Dream! :) And the scaling was great (for most games with support). I'm amazed Nvidia is not continuing to support and promote this feature. And I can guarantee it has something to do with money, because there was little incentive outside of customer upgrade convenience and inquiry when it launched. Very sad, and the original developers are probably very disappointed. The SLI concept is phenomenal.
@@playzfahdayz Evga 9800GTX+ in SLI those where the days 🤘🏻. It was very sad and the potential especially with nvlink would have been mind blowing.
I liked the idea of Crossfire. Four cards, all working together. Imagine what could be done with four 6950 XTs and a pair of Threadripper 5995WXs.
This in a way pains me.
I remember vividly the SLI vs Crossfire days of yore.
Now...distant past.
Yeah, it's a shame because it is still very much needed technology. Even today with a 3080 I simply cannot max out my 1440p monitor 144hz aka getting average 144fps+ on many games. 4k obviously even worse.
If SLI was properly supported then a lot of people would be looking at SLI hungrily.
@@OhManTFE exactly why i’m still on 1080p. Idiots keep saying x card is “overkill” for 1080p. The fact is.. nothing is overkill if you want 144fps. Even more so if you want 240fps. 1080p 240fps requires better hardware than 4k 60.
They say one day we will jump in computing, like we did from the 9000 series to the 100 series up to the 980, then to the 1000 series... but no, we are already there, 500fps, nuts!
62 FPS on quake rt, lol dont be a dummy
@@glasp1 The new consoles run red dead locked at 60 frames 4k and use less than 300 watts.. Puts this madness into perspective.
@@thomassmith4999 I'm not convinced they run strictly native 4k with no dithering or dynamic scaling etc.
@@thomassmith4999 What the hell are you talking about?
The new consoles are not out, and there's been 0 announcements about a next gen RDR2 patch, much less performance details.
On consoles the game uses customized settings, mostly around Medium, some stuff is below PC's lowest settings.
@@AlfaHazard Time for you to pay more attention man, the console youtubers have had the production series x's for a week now.
Mouse mat arrived yesterday, very happy with it and it feels great. Thanks!
That's actually some surprisingly strong results!
Ofcourse what did you expect . And this is with Riser cards and No pcie 4.0 ( LOL)
And its only 4k . You wont believe your eyes how great these cards perform in native 8k!
@@x32i77 They dont perform great on 8k, there are benchmarks already
@@xNoLiix Show me !
@@xNoLiix The new AMD card performance its going to beat the Rtx 3090 2 times for only $399!! Surprising right
@@x32i77 th-cam.com/video/Xgs-VbqsuKo/w-d-xo.html at 6:15
10:38 Finally a build that matches the piggy tail 12 pin adapter.
Steve to all of us: "I have two RTX3090s. Did you not get any?"
:)
Screams loudly inside
Can't even afford to glance on it
Gotta get the clicks and benches for glory.
"some of these games we've even.. heard of"
I love your sense of humour and sly digs 😂
i swear every techtuber takes a shot at Strange Brigade, what did those poor devs do to deserve this?
Create/put forth the game into the wild obviously lol
I mean... It's free real estate..
Jokes aside. They properly optimized their game unlike every other company. And they get free advertising. It's a win for them.
@@dalkgamler true it's got me thinking I may even want to try it just to see if it'll work with my OG Titan X ski setup.
@@shadowarez1337 do it, it's actually a nice game. grab a friend, it's best in coop
They also made Control and Sniper, both of which we highly praised. Did you also notice that we praised SBR for optimization? Or Sniper for like 4 years? It's just a joke about the player count because you all - the viewers - invariably scream in the comments of we test games "no one plays," so this accounts for everything. We praised the optimization, we joked about play base. Everyone should be happy now.
I wish I was smart enough to work for this guy. I love his honesty and energy.
Alternate title: how to run Microsoft Flight Simulator at 4k 60fps
yes
@@shwabbaa5728 no, Flightsim dosnt support SLI, atleast not 1000 series :P Load times double tho. *edit, and I guess you could just use 3 monitors pr card instead for a better experience
@@DKTAz00 I've gotten 4-way SLI to work with applications that don't even support SLI, even on drivers released relatively recently (456.38).
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT I'm talking about Flight Simulator
@@DKTAz00 that's strange af considering MS is being that and DX. mGpu should be baked in to the core
"Some of these games we've even heard of!"
Best line ive ever heard about these weird exclusive mechanics like rtx-on and sli.
That test bench looks like Ripley from Alien: Resurrection-“Kill me…”
That moment when your pc hogs power like an active electric kettle. Difference be your e-kettle only runs for 4 minutes when you need to heat your self some hot water... imagine the electricity bill running this unit for 8+ hours per day
you dont have to imagine, its easily calculated. I Paid 9cents per kilowatt-hour last month, so if I were to run a PC that was running full time using Steve's config in the video(~1000 watts), thats 1 kilowatt times 8 hours times 9 cents per kilowatt-hour = 72 cents a day or about ~22 bucks a month.
A kettle is more like 2-3kW, but yea, point still stands
Use it to replace your home's hot water heater, it's a twofer
Just in-line your Gpu to your hot water input line as a preburner and save money(somehow)
Calculation requires some sort of imagination 😜
Even if MGPU is dead, it's still cool you guys did this, was fun to watch
I would love to see Blender performance stats with two FE cards, as that is what I plan on doing. In general though, I think there is a good portion of us doing Blender work to support benchmarks on various setups. Thanks!
That setup is like some of my builds when I'm doing it with components that I just had laying around and didn't know if they worked or not so I'm doing the testing while I'm building.
The last time I was this early, I could still add to cart (but not checkout.)
The last time I was this early the rtx 3080 wasn't even announced
I got that reference...
Frankly, I think your SLI test bench set up is a thing of beauty!
Also, I really enjoy the good-natured rivalry between Gamers Nexus and JayzTwoCents. It's one of the things that convinced me to subscribe to both channels.
They finally get scaling good for sli... Just in time to kill it off.
You know, when you have 2 of something... It's always nice to share
bro I was thinking will anyone will do it and thnx for doing it. you earned a sub
When I heard "2 test benches" I somehow thought you guys managed to SLI across two systems
Never been so early. YT notifications blessed me this time.
Yeah. Nice job TH-cam.
Wow, this is the most cyberpunk heater I have ever seen.
*In McCoy's voice* "It's dead, Steve."
Camera zooms in on Mirror!Jensun who raises an eyebrow and strokes his goatee. "The suffering is fascinating"
In Spock's voice : "It's SLI Steve, but not as we know it"
12:00 Really appreciate the blue countdown bars!
Sadly unlike 3090, there is no bridge to connect my parents.
F
finally something that can kinda run MS Flight Simulator
Not a SLI title, sorry
"some of these games we've even heard of" hahahh that cracked me up
Just as a quick FYI here GN, (game dev here) actually implementing explicit multi gpu support in DX12 is actually shockingly simple. Getting good scaling out of it does require some engine forethought, but if this was implemented natively into Unreal or Unity (which it could be) then support could grow quickly.
Also due to the completely different (and much better) way that frames are rendered compared to SLI, you will generally not get micro stuttering OR a increase in latency.
I'd like to see this setup with Can it Run Crysis mode in the Crysis Remaster.
It might actually get to stable 60 FPS :))
@@michalthekind God dammit, not again!
@@michalthekind Yeah, I saw it. Quite dissapointing. And the missing assets / downgrades too.
I could no longer take you seriously after the Linus joke 😂!
Will need this for my 16K display.
That watercooling setup reminds me how we did thing in the 90s ;-)
The pink coolers are glowing, nice rig you got there
Okay, this should be good. (grabs popcorn)
500fps??
Lol can't even take that seriously,
BTW, really enjoyed that biking video!
Super sick man.
Nice shirt
Maybe at 1080p. Maybe 360hz gaming is worth SLIing 3090s at that rez
They hit 1000fps in doom eternal on liquid nitrogen
I honestly can't even tell if Steve is just trolling us all with that Franken-testbench setup. I am 80% sure he's just screwing with us at this point.
Safe to say that this video and NVLink 3090 is the best thing that ever happened to Strange Brigade.
Steve: Manufacturers can't design proper cooling.
Also Steve: Check out this 2 x 3090 SLI puppy.
Love it
No wonder why RTX 3090 and 3080 always out of stock, Steve bough them all.
would rather have Steve get 100 cards than scalpers get even 1 card.
Anu day!
The Verge is taking notes
I really wish mgpu would be a thing... imagine just dropping an extra gpu to get you to your target fps...
Finally 👍👍👍 been waiting for a video about two of these
Great video Steve. Thank you for making it
This Sucker Is Electrical, But I need a Nuclea Reaction to Generate the 1.21 Gigawatts.
The LiByAnS!
me - "why can't I buy a new 3090?"
nexus - "lul 3090 sli"
This is what NVIDIA meant when they said "8k gaming" :D
What? $8000 gaming? Sure... 🤐
One word comes to mind to describe that setup: "Kludge".
I just ordered a 3090 sli system (ordered for the first time from an SI because I can’t get my hands on GPUs otherwise). I’ve had SLI systems since the 3-way GTX 480 and it’s sad to see SLI support land where it has today. There are some older games I still play with SLI support (Destiny 2, WoW, GTAV) that is hoping to get at close to a locked 4K 120hz. That being said, this will probably be my last SLI system.
As always, great content and just because of this video on SLI I will join your Patreon. Thanks for all that you do in the industry.
@Clayton Jones, I’m also interested in 2* 3090’s but from what I’m reading here I don’t think it will work in older games. Just the ones listed on Nvidia’s website in this video. So unless Nvidia changes things you won’t be able to play most of the older games with SLI support that is currently working on 20 series and older GPU’s. I didn’t know this either until the 3080/90 launch and it ruined my plan of increasing my FPS to the max on newer and older games.
SpideyDiG I don’t think that’s what they are saying in this article. They’ve never broken SLI backwards before so I doubt that would be the case now. I’ll still roll the dice. I can always take one out of the loop and throw it in an eGPU or another system.
I actually think this is exactly what Nvidia did here is ruin backwards compatibility for 3080/90 series in most games won’t support SLI. So you will only be able to play a handful of games listed on Nvidia’s website. None of them I’m too interested in playing so this is a real let down for me and SLI support. I don’t want to have to go out and buy 2* 2080 Ti’s used when I had my mind set originally on a dual 3080/90.
Coming up next: GN figures out Fusion so we can game in 8k.
Memes aside, Strange Brigade does look like it's well-liked. Just not popular in terms of player count.
that test bench is unapologetically hideous and extremely repulsive I LOVE IT
Can't wait for the quad gpu testing!
I have to say, I enjoyed this video a lot more than I thought I would. Fun video. Bravo.
every 10 seconds Steve makes sure you remember that SLI is walking into its grave
Would have been interesting to see how SLI impacts latency.
1:01 "Not at all worth the money"
Bold of you to assume even one 3090 is worth the money.
Well, every rewiew I have seen makes a note that it isn't, unlesss you use it as a work computer.
2X3080 would have been fun to see, kicking ass with one 3090 in games, but nah, they didn't want that to be an option.
Well, Nvidia initially said it was a workstation card, not targeted at gaming...then they went and shot themselves in the foot by boasting about 8k gaming 😂
@@quirinaled2752 yeah, 8k gaming is great for the 4 youtube tech rewiewers that got a free TV and a 3090...
Even with Nvidia doing stupid marketing calling the 3090 a “gaming card”, the 3090 is an absolute revolution in productivity for price.
The gaming space advanced in a magnitude of 1 (price to performance) with the jump to Ampere.
The dev/production space advanced by a magnitude of 3.5 (price to performance) yet no one is talking about it... and it’s Nvidia’s fault. Ampere cards and rendering machines will REVOLUTIONIZE the workplace.
Know what's better than "not worth the money"? Not worth twice the money!
Crazy to think that these two cards are pulling nearly ONE HORSEPOWER.
Looking at the benchmarks, it would seem only software that is built to take advantage of SLI really benefits, as we saw from Strange Brigade Vulkan, native 4k and 362.5 frames per second is some what impressive! It really is down to the developers, if they do not focus on SLI tech, it really is 50% wastage on GPU performance.
mGPu doesn't usually use alternet frame rendering like s.l.i & crossfire did. Alternet frame rendering was known to have issuse of stuttering ever since it came out 18 years ago. Reviewers are the one who said it had the highest possible playable fps & good loading on both cards. Having equal load on the cards means nothing, if the frames times aren't consistant ( a.k.a 1% lows & 0.1%) Most mGPU rendering use scissor or splitscreen rendering were one card rends the top & the other renders the bottom. This mean one card is going to have less load because it's only rendering the sky mostly while the other card is renering a lot more geomorety from the ground. The benifit comes in the frame times being mroe constistant.the down side is that it won't produce as high a frame rate as atlernet frame rendering.
Finally some Cable Management that looks more like mine lol jk.
So much shade thrown at Stange Brigade 😮
Thank you for doing this. As an SLI user since day one, I guess my 2080Ti setup is the end of the line for me. Time to go back to using only one card on my next build.
It's ALIVE! That has to be the closest to Frankenstein I've seen in pcs...
How about a deeplearning benchmark in SLI mode? I think that had to be one of the most important ones, since it has always been said that this card is meant to be for professionals :)