Why Gamers Aren't Upgrading Their GPUs & How OLD Cards Defy Longevity Expectations
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- Unlock the secrets behind why gamers are holding onto their old GPUs longer than ever before in this eye-opening video. Join us as we delve into the world of PC hardware, exploring the surprising longevity and performance of graphics cards from years past. From the iconic GTX 1080 Ti to mid-range marvels like the GTX 1060 and RX 580, discover how these aging GPUs are still delivering playable experiences in today's demanding games. We'll discuss the evolution of graphics technology, the impact of features like upscaling and frame generation, and why modern game design is shifting towards compatibility with older hardware. Join the conversation and rethink your approach to GPU upgrades in this thought-provoking analysis of the PC hardware landscape.
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My main reason to not upgrade is just the fact that i dont see modern AAAs worth playing i often just find myself replaying older titles which my current gpu can handle pretty well.
Same. With so much bland, uninspired woke schlock, it's getting harder and harder to justify PC upgrades.
😂 this is failed thinking. This year games are mainly next gen only.
This. The games are all woke garbage these days. No point in playing any of them. The few games that aren't total garbage and filled with woke cancer usually run fine on the GPU I have. (RTX 2070 Super).
Yup, I bought the mass effect trilogy at Xmas on sale. Working thru that at the moment. A witcher 3 Ng+ play after that and then maybe a final Skyrim playthrough with plenty of visual mods(I recently upgraded to a rx5700xt)
If I can't run new Witcher when it comes out I'll upgrade then
There is an article on Eurogamer that states that games older than 6 years account for 60% of play time.
if one looks at PC only, its even more than that.
That's because people don't wanna work these days, unemployment my man
The most recent game I played was Red Dead Online and I did not see any newer games with better graphics, even Cyberbug 2077.
@@greg8909 Cyberpunk 2077 graphics are WAY ahead of red dead redemption 2
This is true for me. Most of my installed PC library is from the previous decade or earlier (with a few awesome exceptions) and on the console side, I bought a Series X specifically because of the backwards compatibility program.
the main reason i am holding on to aging hardware (literally running it until it dies) is because i am poor AF on top of everything getting a price hike with each new release
Foreal. I upgraded from an i72600k and HD 7870. To a 1900f and 1660ti. I the upgraded last year to a 10900f and 6800xt. I'm done.
This take makes sense to me if you just dont have the money.
@@TheRealDlo and there are increasing numbers of people who fit into this category. Prices are going up but wages aren't. We're living in a new Gilded Age, people... for every rich person there are a hundred poor, so that they may hoard the wealth.
I think this (broke ppl) is the real reason that the RX 580 has such good numbers on Steam. Because it's recently become a "budget" (
I feel ya. Was on a 3770k & 760GTX for the longest. Current machine is a used workstation with a refurb card. No way I'd buy new (esp nvidia) unless the vid card was makin bank. Scanner and printer are at least a decade old. But with the weird new subscription stuff companies are going with they really would have to take them from my cold dead hands.
get a job and your life back
I buy a new PC every 10 year, because only after 10 year I will see the new PC speed and capacity can be at least doubled or more on every benchmark.
This is the way
Well it’s going to be far more than double, you can double on performance easily every 5 years or less.
Hence I'm still running a 2600K over clocked to 4.5Ghz and a 1080 ti, runs fine on everything at 1080P, 2k, 4k is over rated IMO
If it runs windows it's plenty. I come from i7 2600 to Ryzen 5 5600 and I'm planing to hold to it for a steady 5-6 years or untill AM 6. If I can run windows and play chess then it's fine. I don't plan on playing the next Crysis on ultra settings.
@@rictr7421nah Not really.
The RTX2080TI is better than the RTX4060. Shure one was the high end at the time and one is the low end, but nowadays it isn’t reasonable to buy high end.
Mid tier now is the old high end because they are still insane with prices. The RX7800XT is not 100% faster. It’s more like 40%.
My GTX 1070 OC (8GB) still holds on.
Can't turn on all the new reflections and shinny things, but still gives me decent frames in modern games.
I also have 1070, not even OC and in 1080p still runs most games on high settings 60+fps or a mix of medium/high. I'm fine with that.
The Pascal architecture was really good I'm still on a 1080 that a bought a few years ago for 200 bucks but I saw some 1080ti at 200-250 it's really a great deal for someone who wants a cheap gpu.
I got a gtx1080 since it came out and i can run everything decently on 3440x1440. Not on high settings ofcourse, about mid settings. Games still look good at those settings. I did however upgrade my cpu to 7800x3d this year, but there isnt much difference compared to 6850k. Loading times are a bit faster and maybe 10fps more at best.
I came here to say the same thing but you beat me to it, But yes, I'm rockin a 1070 In my desktop, and I have a laptop with a 1080. And they both truck along just fine.
was rocking a 1070ti, built a new pc for wifey, decided to upgrade the gpu to a 6750xt and while it's good the old 1070ti can still comfortably play anything i throw at it locked in 60fps, at max i have to go down from ultra to high in a few more demanding games and i can totally live with that.
Um... Am I the only that doesn't upgrade just because GPUs are stupidly expensive now and you pay a lot of money for very little in return?
Nop u are not the only one 2000 was meh 3000 was omg I want it but price 😢 and low ram 4000 is 🥵 but price 😢 so we w8 until gtx is dead
If you want to achieve a specific frame rate or change resolutions it makes a lot of sense to upgrade. Not gonna argue the expensive part :)
@@TheRealDlo try but let me ask you this has ther bean a game that you love but camt play ? Like wicher 3 😂 I sometimes feel meh u know
Nope. It’s gonna be a WHILE before my 4070ti is going to be replaced
That's not being a good Consoomer!
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The real reason?
PC Price went from $1500 to $2500 in 4 years.
$1500 still gets you an amazing system. Something like an 7800x3d and rx7800xt, probably even better.
I built a very good pc, myself, for 1400cad 2 christmas back. Still going strong.
I wanna buy a 7800xt soon and i will he good for atleast 7 more years.
And wages have not increased that much over the past decade!
I used to work summers and buy a medium to high end rig, now I have a full time job and just a gpu of similar performance cost as much as the whole rig would have 10 years ago, that's why I still have a gtx 1070
PCs havent gone up in price......Your dollar is worth LESS , you can buy less now...........fjb
We aren't upgrading because the price is too much, simple as that.
I think part of it too is that the average buyer has gotten wise to the "stack shifting" scheme we've seen with the last few generations, and are content with waiting longer for those full ~80% generational jumps within their chosen price bracket. They can fudge the labeling all they want, but $1000+ cards have no place within the normal consumer lineup and shouldn't even be on the radar for most people.
My 2060 is doing fine, and I dont have plans to change it since most of the games I play are old
I finally had to give up my 2060 because it was starting to show its age and run hot even after good cleanings and maintenance. And I have a few UE5 titles now and they really made my pc burn up and howl to run them.
Single most impactful cause is price. GPUs since 2020 have been valued at over double what they are actually worth.
Buy used. Know the pitfalls. Get deals.
Double? Have you compared fps/$? I did and they are worth the dollar. I wish they were overpriced but they are not. FE were real bargain.
To you maybe. But who are you deciding if it is worth it or not.
Just pay up, or else forget it.
The price to performance increase per generation has decreased greatly over time. I’m not even counting pascal cards as their performance increase was an outlier. But from 2080 to 3080/90 the performance increase DID NOT match the price increase & even less so for the 30 to 40 series. This is not to say they didn’t increase the performance but it is not arguable that generational improvements of cpu/gpu have stagnated greatly while the prices have increased greatly
@@ahiwalter9153 Be glad you even get a new next generation card at any price.
They don`t owe you anything.
I think the kind off performance you get these days is simply insane.
And who says it should match anything......it`s just in your head.
It really isn’t insane lol…maybe if you’re talking a 3090 to 4090 upgrade but that’s a $2,000 gpu so it’s to be expected. Any other segment of the 40 series cards are pretty minor increases while still charging $600 for a 8gb card lol & the lukewarm sales are evident that this generation had one compelling option for people looking to upgrade. BYou really need to do more research or cause your statements are wildly incorrect.
When it comes to big AAA titles, there is hardly anything worth playing these days, so no need for better hardware.
You don't even get to own AAA titles--they "sell" them to you on Steam than take them away from you when the community is't spending enough on microtransactions. The best games still are the ones you have the solid media for.
I disagree. Can give you 30+ games that are amazing on my ps5 alone.
@@PCgamerChannellist them please
@@PCgamerChannelFor you its amazing. For us its not. I was thinking heavily and ordered an RTX3050 6GB version. Also got a Series S. Why? Because i looked up on my steam library and the newest game i play is Insurgency:Sandstorm. I'm not interested in modern bs. Starfield with its "They/Them" pronounce etc. Newest game i finished was the Dead Island 2 on the Xbox. I had no problem with performance there
@@patriktoth6258 I got 2 gaming pcs 2 ps5s and 2 switches what was your point you were trying to make? XD. I also got a 4080 super gpu bought for over 1,000 dollars 2 months ago dont assume things then flex a weak pc.
I can confirm my Vega 56 is still somehow pulling along just fine
I couldn't stand my vega 56 because of how terrible It whined
@coulsenbailey3829 It really is luck of the draw.
I used to have a GTX 960 that was so whiny it drowned out the monitor audio.
And an Athlon 3000G fan that basically came with a free rodent orchestra the way it "REEEEEEE"d every active second.
I've had more powerful cards and fans that were fine.
@@coulsenbailey3829 sorry to hear that, mine has been really good to me.
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I’ve been loyal to my 1080 TI for seven years now. I snagged this gem for $650 back in mid-2017. Now, if we leap forward seven years, the equivalent price-to-performance card, the RTX 4080 (non TI) , is hitting the shelves at a whopping $1,000. It’s baffling, really. The audacity of game developers these days is something else-they seem to be living in a bubble if they think the average Joe can just drop $1,400 on a PC setup that struggles to run modern games at 60FPS without resorting to frame generation.
It’s like they expect us to break the bank just to keep up with the latest titles. And let’s not even get started on the cost of a full rig upgrade. With the way prices are skyrocketing, you’d need to take out a second mortgage just to afford a top-tier graphics card. It’s a slap in the face to gamers everywhere. We’re not all made of money, and it’s about time developers and manufacturers realized that. Gaming used to be an accessible hobby, but at this rate, it’s turning into a luxury few can afford.
650 in 2017 is equivalent to 831 today due to inflation, so the prices have increased, just not as much as people believe.
the equalent card is the Rx7800xt cost even less then 650$ nowdays around 500$. for 650 you can get a Rx 7900 Gre, the RTX 4070ti cost too much and RTX 4080 still cost too much.
Try to use your brain over your fanboyism, the better products are not always Intel or Nvidia, there is a Option it is called AMD and the Hardware and Software from AMD is as good if not better then ther Competition.
When i hear people say that DLSS is a selling point, so DLSS is not really a selling point because you get locked out if a new generation of Nvidia cards is released, FSR on the other hand is then a selling point because you do not get Locked out if AMD release a New generation and i wounder how RTX 3000 user use now FSR instead of DLSS ... Great selling point for them i see.
if we take into account real inflation (aka non-fake inflation), that 4080 is certainly cheaper today than the 1080 ti was 7 years ago. this doesn't mean that purchasing-power hasn't eroded for many fixed-income people, so it may feel less affordable for many.
I refuse to upgrade to a GPU that cost more than my car.
But its your father's car, you don't own a car.
I hope u get a new car lol
Bishop that’s not a car that’s a scooter and the battery pack is on fire
bro drives a yangwang
Where are you finding a car that cheap lol
I have had a 5700xt, which is basically a slightly better 1080ti, at least for more recent games, for almost 4 years now and I am not planning to upgrade anytime soon. It still plays 1080p perfectly.
I remember putting that GPU in my nephews qhd 120hz rig.
Great card for the price but it's showing its age now.
Rx5700 isn't bad. Got it for an upgrade for a gaming rig I found in a pawn shop. Works pretty well
i have 5700xt aswell, thing kicks ass. i was lucky to build my pc right before covid when all the parts prices went up
I bought my 1080Ti a few weeks after launch, and it's going strong today. It's no longer in my main gaming PC, or even my secondary. It's in the machine I daily drive -- the one I'm using right now.
I'm on an RTX 3090, but I still keep my GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition as a backup. You never know when those power hungry bricks will give up the ghost with their insane power peaks that can go up to 600W or beyond. I've already had to change TWO PCIE-E power cables due to partially melted connectors. I can only guess it's due to these intermittent power peaks that happen for milliseconds and saturate the capacity of the wires, which in turn melts the plastic around them. Now I only run my RTX 3090 undervolted. Nvidia should really revise the power consumption and delivery on their newer high-end graphics cards.
Have you undervolted?
@@CuttinInIdaho Yes, I undervolted it after the cables started melting at the connectors, lol. BTW, I have never overvolted the card.
@@bgtubberThe 3090 is still a beast. I sold my 3090 Asus Strix and 3080 EVGA FTW3 Ultra 12gb. Those things pulled far to much power it was insane. Along with not having the performance anymore to make it reasonable to me. I upgraded to an Asus 4090 Asus Strix white and a 4070 Super FE.
My 3080 finally died after years of overheating and power spikes.
@@mikeclarke3990 Oof. :(
No reason to upgrade, all the games are trash, I play 5+ year old games, literally no reason to play anything new besides Indie games which don't require monster hardware anyways.
No reason for you to upgrade. You may not like modern games, and that’s okay, but I hate to break the bad news to you but it turns out the industry is booming more than ever and selling more games than ever. So the vast majority do not feel this way
@AngerMaker413 great but I can still play all the games my friends are playing... with high frame rates... better load times than my Xbox brethren... and it's called a gtx 1060! Yeah I want a 1080, but 1060 still cuts the mustard to this day!
@@Tipman2OOO I went from a 3050ti 4gb to a 4060 16gb and it made a worlds of difference for my experience.
Those older cards still hold up well, no doubt, but at this point it’s only a matter of time before you start having to turn everything on low.
The 1060 is pushing 8 years old now, but by the time you’re due for an upgrade you could still get by with a 3070 or something like that for another 8 years
1080p is also still the most widely used rez.
Also, you are wrong that "graphics don't matter anymore" - It's the continuingly rising prices and the flat or even falling wages that is the problem.
Yes but you do realize that a lot of people use 1440p? Literally every big TH-camr you see uses 1440p. Because it's the new standard. 1080p is fading away.
Only cause there is no price competition..
Competition is coming, slow but catching up, and form the other side of the ocean. Just like the 80s.
EVGA 2070 Super here. Still going strong at 1440p.
If the 2070 Super had 12 GB or more of VRAM (almost nothing did at the time), it would still be a great GPU. Even with 8GB, it's still very good. Mine gets used regularly with a Ryzen 5 5600 for photo editing.
@@rangersmith4652 mines one of the best performing 2070 super ever tested on 3dmark. Holds several records lol. I got lucky and got a very overclockable card
Also a 2070s user. I am gonna upgrade with 5000 series but I still love my 2070s.
I had a ASUS Strix 2080 Super.
Due to the vram of 8gb.
I upgraded to a new ASUS TUF 4070 for 400 dollars USD/ 600 Dollars CAD.
same with a 1080ti
"future proofing" was a huge PC building trend between 2015 and 2018 or so, and so far it turns out to have been a great decision. a 980ti will still run most games, and the guys who got a 5820k are likely still happily gaming on them.
Future proofing doesn't exist in PC hardware land. There's only best bang for buck. I've owned a 980ti almost a decade ago. And I'm happy Ive moved on to a 1080ti and a 3080. Next will be something 5080. And really a 3080 crushes a 980ti, let alone features like DLSS
@@UmVtCg OK, how much did Nvidia pay you to say this?
@@Ang3lUki There is no such thing as future proof
@@mitsuhh Did neither of you watch the video?
@@Ang3lUki do you know what future proof means?
1080ti with 11gb is a ridiculously powerful card nearly 8 years later. Feels like it came out yesterday
Doubt it. Depending on the game you play, you could be really pushing it to its breaking point.
@@namecannotbeblank8920Your doubt is misplaced.
It's fine for playing even _Star_ _Citizen_ (Alpha, resource-heavy, graphically intense).
@@MichaelStenberg-c3k My gpu was getting roubleshooted for 2 days (7900XT) so I put my old 1080 TI back in my PC, cleaned it up because it was a blower cooler version from Palit lol. It still ran Elden Ring DLC at 1440p high for the two days I used it.
It will always remain in my gaming memory because it was the first high-end GPU I ever bought. I went from a 750 TI to RX 480...but then I tried 1440p on it and sold it after just 2 months to upgrade to 1080 TI. When I was on 750 TI I used 4k as a joke setting to see how little fps I got. When I used the 1080 TI, I played Deux EX:Mankind Divided that way lol.
Probably one of the best GPUs ever released. With inflation included, the RTX 4090 would need to be around 1050-1100€ with the same performance it has right now to match the 1080 TI in price/performance/generational leap. That's just crazy.
It's a good card even today, but consumes slot of power and lacks dlss and other Nvidia features
The problem with the inflation argument is that incomes do not keep up with it. We are losing purchasing power constantly. Companies are forced to raise their prices because of the endless money printing, but we, the people, make less and less of that money for ourselves. It's still at least as hard to make a given amount of money today as it was in 2016 or 2012, but the prices are leaps and bounds above what they were back then. And that's in every aspect of our lives, meaning that luxury goods like computer hardware become a much lower priority.
They're not forced to raise their prices.
@@loganmedia4401 Let's say you used to be able to pay everyone at every step of the process from start to getting a graphics card on a store shelf with an average of $150 per card. The required profit to keep R&D competitive, make it worthwhile for those who invest in your company, and have a little cushion is $50. After tax, you sell the cards to retailers and the third parties for $250. They for about 280-300.
Now, every step is 1.5-2x more expensive. It costs 300 to get a card produced, tested, packaged, and shipped to a store, despite your toughest optimisations. R&D is also more expensive. Let's say $75. Due to tax, you have to sell for $450. Retailers for $480-500+. You complain that they won't sell the card for $300, making a $150/33% loss on every card sold. Why would they waste their time on low-cost, low-profit cards if they want to survive? It's no wonder most of the focus is on high-end products. That's the only way to sustain the business and keep developing high-quality products. It's unfortunate, but it's not their fault. They're not printing money, debasing the currencies, destroying opportunities for business, etc.
Prices are all up because corporations see a world war as an excuse to gouge... they see the sun rising another day as an excuse to gouge the poor and pay their shareholders.
The majority of inflation after the first couple of years of repairing the worldwide supply line of goods has been out and out gouging of the consumer. In the graphics cards industry higher prices have also come from huge demands of crypto and AI.
@@jimralston4789 AMEN!!@
Still running my GTX970. The 4gb Vram is starting to become an issue in many new games, good thing there's still plenty of good old games and optimized new ones that it can run well.
Was going to upgrade for Starfield, glad I didn't.
A GTX 970 doesn't have 4GB of VRAM. It has 3.5GB of VRAM. It's why I went with the R9 390 back in 2016. It was $300 and had 8GB of VRAM and the GTX 970 Ti FTW was well over $300 and it only had 3.5GB of VRAM. The R9 390 was a much better deal. Paired it with a i7 6700 and 16GB of RAM. Doom 2016 ran super smooth and looked amazing.
Funny that Starfield is actually playable on 960, yes, it look shit, extremely buggy and yes its boring, but none the less it does work.
@@Saviliana it is? I wasn't aware. That is good to know.
@@wulfone5961 I fell for the shitty Nvidia marketing it seems.
It actually does have 4gb of vram, as it says everywhere, but the last 512 of those are significantly slower making it in effect a 3.5gb card.
WTF Nvidia?!?
Reasons to avoid them in the future, I guess. A friend of mine fell for their 3050 6gb as well.
@@LarsaXL The thing is, I had run starfield with the game's included DLSS option, it shouldn't be working but it did work and given me some 25-40 fps most of the time. Stuttering lags around some parts that required assets loads are expected, but so far I only find that sound files were the issues. The rest of the game runs perfectly fine.
RX580 here everything ok
Same
Still kickin and 60fpsing 95% of Steam library
Great card, soon it will dethrone 750ti from my personal favourite list.
It just keeps on going and it aged like fine wine.
Good job AMD ❤
Still love my 590 but wish 500 series had rocm support. Did AMD recently say they weren't going to have updates for 500 series anymore?
Gave mine to my girlfriend when I upgraded to 7800xt, it runs all of her games great still
Long live my R9 390/spaceheater.
I run an R290 until 2021. I got a deal on an R580 or I'd have run it a couple more years.
The R9 390 is nowhere near as power hungry as the new high end GPUs. 275W used to be a lot, not so much nowadays.
can you get yours working well on linux? i had to give it up
Dunno about highebd cards but 7800xt runs faster underclocked than stock an takes 80-180w from the wall depending of the game ofc. At stock it takes 220-280. No idea why they are sold on arrow to the knee mode.
@@colto2312its worth upgrading to a polaris card, its $50 for +100% perf and works well on Linux been at it as a daily for ~2 years. Only thing I couldn't get to work is opencl GPU computing.
Still running a 1080ti in my boys rig. It does everything he wants/needs and i'll be damned if im paying the inflated greedy prices they are asking for new gpu's at present.
Long live my good'ol RX580... Still playing and keeping my room warm and cozy 😂😂😂
Last year I updated from an RX 580 to a RX 6700 XT. I do not regret the upgrade, but so far I havent played a lot of the new shiny, demanding titles even when my card can perfectly run those games at 60+ fps. I still keep playing TL2, MH World, MH Rise, Genshin Impact and Halo MCC. Tbh, outside of a few new titles like Helldivers 2, i'm not interested on the latest and greatest, at least not at the absurd pricepoint the are tying to sell us ($70.00 for an usually incomplete game is outrageous!).
Recently built a PC after using a laptop/console for years...went for a 5600 paired with a 6750 XT and I think it's great so far! Best you can get for £300 in my opinion.
this is honestly why i haven't upgraded. the games i play are still good on my rx580. even Elden Ring lol
I'm on the same boat. Got a new card, still playing old games for the most part.
I’m fine with graphics the way they are. I just want games to run right on release and compiling shaders at the start of the game. Speaking of Elden ring, yesterday it started randomly freezing for a second then fast forwarding to catch up…
Yup dont care if it compiles them 10 minutes long as the game runs smooth.
I played both uncharted and the last of us part 1 I let compile shaders but the games still stutter frequently even after beating them a couple of time and I have an 8gb gpu so it wasn't vram , elden ring didn't stutter for me anymore after the first 5 hours
@@purehollow my issue turned out to be the controller driver. It would quickly disconnect and reconnect causing the game to freeze.
Yea :) I agree with this all the way.
The 3060 is still #1 on Steam. Im rocking my 3060ti im sure another 2 generations at the rate GPU development is progressing.
Proud owner of gtx 1060 6gb. 🤗
Me too 😀
I ran that for years until it died on me. My upgrade? A 1080ti :)
1050ti
1060 here. I haven’t upgraded because the value proposition for “mid range” cards has been obliterated. Hoping things get better, but the greed has killed my interest in upgrading to a brand new card.
Back in the days going from a Radeon HD 4870 to a HD 5870 was an uplift of 90%.
And that in a year.
I had the HD 4870 and saw the performance of the HD 5870, i had to buy.
These days it doesn't really get much better.
You can do 6-8 years with a gpu, if you buy the best one.
But nowadays i just buy mid class and use it for 4 - 6 years.
My conspiracy theory is that game developers are intentionally not optimizing their game to force people to buy newer hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel/Nvidia/AMD invest into gaming companies.
That's because major process node jump (65nm/55nm to 40nm). 5870 to 6970 performance jump is like 10 to 15 percent only since both based on the same 40nm process.
@@soniablanche5672that is what max setting/ultra setting is. Some people think when they can't run the ultra setting with good performance then the optimization is shit.
RTX 3090 to RTX 4090 was 70% in 2 years. I see your point.
@@arenzricodexd4409 ultra, high and even some low settings do not make any visual difference besides with more fps, or sometimes not changing fps for good or worse. worst yet, games look the same or worse as older games while running terribly lol.
cyberpunk 2077 is still nvidia's rtx playground and interactive advertisement. poor all intel, amd and nvidia users who do not have the latest top end rtx. forced to eat up that one ~24gb nvidia overdrive update lol.
My RX 480 totally stood the test of time running something like Metro Exodus, Doom Eternal, and DX12 Fortnite. There's room for making these older cards shine brighter if people keep innovating on what game engines are capable of, not on a graphical level by a technical level in rendering smarter graphics to save and use resources as necessary. Here's to hoping my 6600 XT lives as long, especially since I'm now into undervolting.
The rx6600xt is often overlooked but it's a beast of a card for 1080p especially coming from a rx480. I was real happy with my 150usd rx6600xt coming from a 1060 6gb. Good luck hope it last as long as the 480.
I have RX 6900XT, and the RX 480 remains as the reserve
@@MrNota500 I can push for 1440p and even 1728p/1800p with enough given resources on my 6600 XT. I feel like I should of waited on the 7600, but this is doing well enough in letting me play older games I usually play finally at 2160p. Pushing it to 4320p is even crazy when it keeps a solid 60 frames.
As someone who went from RX 590 to 6650XT on the main comp, and RX 480 to 6650XT on 2ndary comp, I feel ya.
Great cards for great price. (Got both of mine on sale, by the by)
I alao jjave a 6600xt. I thought i would be stuck playing on medium setting. I keep pushing it and she ALWAYS deliver. Well, i am not playing the latest game either. But i am running a HEAVY modded fallout 4 with all the 8k HD textures and she is stable AF.
I played FF rebirth recently, all at max. Never stuttered even with mods. I am really satisfied. When i builty PC it was my weakest link. I dont need to, but ad soon as i can get a deal for either a 6800xt or 7800xt, i will jump on it.
If i get a 7800xt, i will start buying pieces to built my next gaming pc around it. But frankly, i am confident i can play for another 4-5 years with my 6600xt.
Rx 6600 user here. Bought it last year at around $200 + shipping and import fees. It has served me faithfully for 1080p, and can even run most stuff well at 1440p, so long as you don't go for Ray Tracing, and min-max your settings. I will stick with it for as long as it lasts me.
Same but xt.
I'm in the same boat. I used to stick with nVidia's GTX *50 stuff (750, 1050, then 1650 was my last before switching over to AMD because the RTX 3050 was so much more expensive than the RX 6600 in my country). The RX 6600 was such a huge upgrade and is the first time I felt like I actually had a gaming PC. I'm also surprised at how efficient it was. I have a kill-a-watt and the consumption of my PC with an RX 6600 was slightly less than the power consumption of my PC with the 1650 at 1080p resolutions (the RX6600 starts consuming way more once we get to higher resolutions and settings, but at that point the 1650 can no longer keep up in terms of performance.)
I've never had a problem with this card.
Fixed rate 90FPS > 120FPS variable rate. The human eye can't distinguish anything over 55 FPS so even 90FPS is overkill and people do it for bragging rights. The excessive cost to get to 4k isn't worth it unless you're video editing--4k is silly for gaming. Honestly if you're a pro gamer you want lower resolution without particle effects regardless of how fast your setup is . A gamer with a 10k computer running 4k with full effects will lose to a gamer with a 1k setup running no particle effects at HD.
@@jasonwaterfalls6145 Have fun missing out! I have an i9 and an RTX 4090! I'm watching tutorials on how to OC my CPU.
@@swallowedinthesea11 Nice. Congrats on the high end PC. Why do you need to OC, though? The i9 and the 4090 will run any game that's out right now at stock speeds without breaking a sweat.
Another reason not to upgrade was the stupid 12-pin power connector.
I still use a 1080ti and i7 7700k. My pc still runs as smooth as the day I first booted it up
My brother inlaw who works at IT is a big believer in saving money by keeping his hardware going for as long as possible even when he can easily be playing with the latest and greatest hardware every year. Currently he is using a 1050 on a few home computers his kids use. Of course when he does upgrade he makes sure it will last a long time like his current hardware.
Right now am using the RTX 2060 since 2019 and it runs everything on ultra and high except for a few of the very latest games where i have it to turn it down to high and medium settings for STARFIELD and CYBERPUNK 2077. I thought i would have issues with the 6gb vram but STARFIELD runs perfectly at 1080p or 1440p.
Thanks for the great commonsense video and happy gaming! ☕
Coming from someone who just upgraded from a 2060 6gb. It runs Starfield on 1440p like mashed potatoes
Been running a 2060S since Spring 2020, still plenty good enough for my uses. The only game I know I can't tweak to acceptable performance is AW2, that game is deigned to run at a locked 30FPS at high on a 2060S so I'll wait until I upgrade in a year or three. When I can't run the latest AAA releases that'll just give me motivation to peruse my astonishingly good backlog. I know cards after Pascal and RDNA went up in price but they do also seem to last longer, I never got more than 3 years out of my 2 previous cards (GTX770 and GTX1060).
@@Lord_Muddbutter Sorry to hear that. I hope the upgrade is bringing the gaming joy. I was fortunate enough to find one of those settings guide on TH-cam which gave just the right advice on running STARFIELD so i have been very happy with its performance. Am saving up for a new pc to replace my i7 8700 since i do want to get back to enjoying things at high and ultra when it comes to new games but i have more than enough games in my STEAM and GOG library to not feel like am missing out.
@@77Arcturus More power to you.
Just few weeks ago upgraded gtx1080 to 7800xt.
And 1080 aint done yet.. Still fine for 1080p so goes to girlfriends pc.
Here is a concept for Nvidia....make their video cards affordable so people don't have to hold on to their old 'good enough' video card.
then how will Jensen keep himself clothed in leather jackets?
Here is another concept
The price will remain high as long as people keep buying
Stop buying GeForce, get a Radeon or an Arc.
@@scrubscrub4492semi pro people will keep buying nvidia cards. And going forward majority of those buying gaming gpu like geforce or radeon will be those that use it beyond gaming. Even AMD know this hence with 7900XTX they start talking about running professional apps on those GPU. The sales from gamer will shrink.
@@scrubscrub4492 Arc? 🤣🤣
@@clockworklegionaire2135 intel gpus actually have very good price performance, even better than amd. but they are selling them with very little profit margins, i dont think theyll be able to keep it up for very long.
the drivers are a problem too...
Still rocking a 1080ti thanks EVGA
As long as we stick together and refuse to upgrade, what are pc game companies going todo not sell to 60% ish of PC users.
My i7-6700k/EVGA 1080Ti Black SC is still running strong, pushing a 34" ultrawide GSync at 1440p. Have i7-12700k/3080Ti and i9-13900k/4090 systems waiting on build, but no hurry. Best to all.
A GPU that was a good performer at 1080p back in 2015 or whenever will still be good performer at 1080p in 2024.
As someone who only play games at 1080p and isn't concerned with Ray Tracing and FSR or DLSS, I see no point in upgrading my 6600xt.
Cyberpunk 2077 at Max settings comfortably runs at 50-75 fps and with a bit of overclocking, it doesn't drop below 55fps.
Or just turn down some settings to medium and you'll get solid 60+ fps
@@scarfaceReaper can't tell the difference between 55 and 60-70ish
@@benedictjajo Lucky
I'm running an RX 5700XT, my 13yo daughter an RX 570, and my 9yo daughter an RX 550.
You have 3 PCs in single house?
@@chaz-e No, we have more than 3, but only 4 of them are currently running/used. We had 3 PCs in our house in the 90s when I was a kid growing up so I don't understand your surprise. That was 30 years ago.
My PC is 5 years old and was mid-range when I built it then for a few hundred bucks. My oldest daughter's is running on my previous 12yo 8-core CPU with my previous 7yo GPU. My youngest daughter's rig is running on a 9yo APU that I bought off Ebay for $25, and I'd put in the HP OEM RX 550 GPU that I bought for a couple bucks off Ebay to beef up her graphics a bit. My wife is running a rig that I bought off my little brother for $500 a few years ago with a Ryzen 5 2400 and a GTX 1050ti, I wanted to help him out a bit so I overpaid for it. Then we have the two prebuilts my wife was running previously that are just sitting collecting dust and cobwebs - a dual-core we bought in 2012 and a quad-core we bought in 2017, just little cheap ~$300 jobs. We also have her late father's old Mac Pro just sitting collecting dust, it's only worth ~$200 nowadays. Nobody here is running anything fancy like $2000 gaming rigs. It's all hand-me-downs or built from cheap used parts off Ebay. I have a few misc CPUs and RAM and a motherboard as well ready to be built into another rig if the need arises.
We didn't go out shopping one day and spend thousands of dollars on several brand-new high-end PCs. It's been a slow accumulation of parts over the last 10 years as I've upgraded my rigs and our daughters received hand-me-down parts.
Both my wife and I are self-employed and work from home on our computers so the PCs have paid for themselves many times over. We can't do what we do without them. We want our daughters to be as comfortable with computers as we are, having grown up with them, so we made sure they each had one after a certain age via the hand-me-down chain. When I upgraded my rig our oldest received my existing rig, when I upgraded again, our youngest received her rig, then received my rig, and I always have the newest hardware. There's not a piece of hardware in this house that is younger than 5 years old, and most of it is closer to a decade old.
We're not driving around in Ferraris over here - we're clunking around in 15 year old Hondas with 150k miles on them. Literally.
Got 5700xt year ago used for $120 I don't feel like I need anything stronger than that. If it's an unoptimized game then I will just skip it, rest works great. And older games run beautifully at 4k/60fps or more.
@@Dregomz02 Yeah it still holds up pretty well at 1080p just fine for most things - but then games that only use Mesh Shaders are burnt. I guess Alan Wake 2 released a patch though that improves its performance on GPUs that don't support mesh shaders, which was probably a good idea. The 5700XT is still plenty decent though, even if it doesn't hold a candle to mid-range GPUs of today, like the 4070 SUPER, which is what I've been eyeing for a while in the event that there are enough funds for me to buy one.
I ain’t readin all ahh
The price percentage margin from a 1080 ti to a 4090 is 128%, in what world does nVidia think they are himathy?
Still rockin a RTX 2060. My boys PCs have GTX 1660s. These cards are more then powerful enough to run what we play. Newest game I play is 7 Days to Die. They both play Roblox and Minecraft. No 4090s needed here.
I went from a GTX285 to a 1060 to a 4070ti. That was like over 20 years and the 1060 is still going on strong in a side project linux box.
Same, 760, 1060 now 3060ti
I have a 1060 and 3600 AMD CPU collecting dust in the garage.
pascal architecture really one of the best
*The Best*
I still use my 1080Ti- even for VR.. but….
Don’t try and use a PC adapter for a PSVR2 on it.
Pascal too old an architecture to be supported or work… 😢
Still rocking a GTX1060....but looking forward to Battlemage/8800XT
Sadly there will be no rdna4 cards higher tier than rx8700xt, kinda like rdna1. I'll wait for rdna5 but i will probably upgrade to rdna6.
@@Bsc8
If the 8700XT has the value of the 5700XT I might buy one, that old RDNA card was a beast for the price.
I loved my old 1060 6GB, most cheapest single fan noise monster version (Zotac) it made my old GTX770 it replaced look like a PS1 by comparison. And it did it while using half the electricity, Pascal was a huge leap forward in performance and efficiency, it doubled FPS in games over the 960 in real world testing.
@@darthwiizius your right tho! AMD has the opportunity to bring another rx5700xt in terms of value, let's hope they dont screw us with the rx8700xt :)
@Bsc8 AMD is no longer a serious player in the GPU market... not by market share anyways...
If you look at the Steam Hardware survey, a few years ago the most used AMD card used to be around #15 on the chart with Nvidia commanding the top 14...
Today, AMD has dropped to #31 before you see their most prolific dedicated GPU.... which is the RX 580... yes, the top 30 cards are all Nvidia.
My RTX 3080 10gb is doing just fine and will so for many years to come.
I have msi 1060 6gb brought 2018 , still does everything i want. Will keep it with me till it last.
heck the RX480 8gb in my i5 4690k second computer is still doing fairly good
I bought a 1080 5 months before the ti came out. I am still mad about it because i am still using the 1080.
If you still using it you didnt lose anything
Lol you're fine. It's still good at 1080p. I only upgraded from mine because I wanted 4k 60fps
I feel you. I bought the quad-core 7700k months before Intel abandoned Kaby Lake and introduced (mainstream) hexa-core.
There's still opportunity cost to consider.
The only reason I upgraded from an RX 580 to an RX 6600 is to save electricity.
I have always thought paying through the nose to play a handful of games that you may not even be interested in didn't make sense. I think many titles seven years or older with a high frame rate at 1080 still look amazing.
Yep they really do.
I bought a used system straight out of the 2017 timeline last year. Rysen 7 1700x 32G ddr4 ram and i can't forget my very big overclocked evga 1060 6g. I keep getting told to upgrade but im making due.
Still using my undervolted Vega 56 on a 10th gen i5 for gaming. :)
I'm still rocking an AMD Radeon Vega 64 Red Devil and so far it's doing a great job at keeping me gaming.
Honestly, it doesn't help that games that are coming out now are complete dogshit too, so having older hardware, playing older games, it seems normal, tbh. Most of my Steam library consists of older titles and "boomer shooters", and my machine is running a r5 5600 and a RX 580 (8gig). I don't really feel the need to upgrade anytime soon, since I can run a lot of modern games at a Medium / Low mix. My system does exactly what I want it to do, and I'm happy with older hardware.
The RX 580 is a fossil anything is an upgrade from that in 2024. At least go with a RX 6700xt.
Yep upgraded to 2nd hand rx 5700 xt from GTX 1060 and barely play anything new since those games are so damn bad. I play mostly f2p or older games native or emulated.
There's still a ton of good games coming out, you just need to look further than just Triple-A games
Bought a 1080ti off my buddy about 2 years ago to upgrade the ancient r9 290x. Its quite an upgrade from that, and still performs very well👌 with a i7 6700k.
tehnically , from High to Max your GPU will notice in usage ( if you use frame limiter ) or framerate , but YOU will barely notice an improvement even if you play the game just for that at that moment
Ah yes!, I'm still rock'in an MSI RX580 8G. works for everything I play.
First. And I'm keeping my 4090 for 10 years. I'll end up running at low settings eventually but at least I can max out textures.
Thats a Smart play Honestly.
I game 5k-7k between 45-70fps with my rtx 3090 with OC so I'm like when ps5 pro comes out that will be closer to tf Wise to rtx 3090 and with frame gen fsr3 I still don't see the GPU upgrade at the moment worth it although I'm curious on spec's for 5080 or 5080ti hmm?!?!?
The power draw of 400 watts for ten years... Holy shit that's not as good an idea as you think
You'd save money buying a 60 class card when it's beating the 4090
@@veilmontTV It usually draws more like 200 to 250 watts. Newer games can get up to over 400 watts.
Me, who owns a GTX 1050Ti 😂
I upgraded my kids to GTX 1070 last year, and used one of their GTX 1050 to upgrade my PC. Whatever gets you through the night.
lol same
i'm still rockin' a gtx 760 2GB from '13, hopefully getting a rtx 3080 before too long
🤡🤡🤡
@@Rebe-Caufman don't be so hard on yourself
You gave me flashbacks of when I was trying to use my 9800gt and GTX 260 way past their prime. Upgrading to the HD 6870 felt huge!
I'm a lot better now in finding games that work properly on the hardware I'm using. A friend gifted me a second gen i5 dell Inspiron laptop with Intel HD 3000 graphics. It was kind of refreshing looking at metacritic PC games lists from 2006 and back. Got to check tons of games I missed out on from not having a good PC at the time. I don't know why I never did this when I got my first proper gaming computer
Graphics has hit a plateau while optimization hasn’t. That’s the direction Devs are gonna go in.
I'm on a 5700xt, my brother is on a 1070ti, one friend is also on a 1070ti and another friend is rocking 1080 and all of them are still churning on perfectly fine
Still good cards but they are being beaten in some if not most games by low budget cards
@@scarfaceReaper Sure but why buy something new that just barely beats the old one that still works
@@Sirpesari i get that but I meant as in a new buyer if they decide to buy these types of GPUs they can easily go for newer ones that in some cases are roughly 10+ fps more and some of GPUs are cheaper than the infamous GTX 1080/TI on used market in some countries not to mention they'll get driver support more
@@scarfaceReaper Depends on a market really, gtx 1080ti still kicks the snot out of 3060 for example in rasterisation and for example here in Finland you can have an used gtx 1080ti for under 200e while a new 3060 costs over 300e
The 1080 is the best card ever
When a 5 year old GPU can still make the most up to date console look slow, yeah, there’s still some use left there
What is this GPU, lol?
2080 Ti was the most powerful 5yo GPU
It is around 20% taster than 6700 non XT (ps5 GPU)
It doesn't make 6700 look slow
And apparently, 1200$ for GPU only and 500$ for the whole system makes no difference to certain somebody
@@angrynimbus270 I have a ps5 and Xbox series x, they never fail to disappoint with their mediocre performance. Console GPUs are roughly on par with a GTX 1070, idk what the AMD equivalent would be. So yeah, slow compared to a 2080 Ti.
@@chincemagnetSaying a ps5 is on par with a 1070 is just dumb
Consoles generally get a pretty modest performance increase due to uniformed architecture. I don't think the current consoles (Xbox Series X, PS5) are considered "slow" at this point, plus "Pro" models are in the pipeline.
7:07 my man Kryzzp 🥰💪😇👍glad you are referencing him in the video as he’s a great game benchmarker 💪🥳🤩!
1660s here,5 years and still decent for 1080 p
Stiil happy on my 1080Ti even at 1440p and still got many older games need to play, will upgrade possibly once the nvidia 5XXX series comes out
team 6600xt
I changed my gtx560 (zotac 2GB) in 2014 to a gtx970 (msi gaming oc), got scammed by vRAM but still used that card a lot. Then in 2022 i went for an rx6750xt (XFX Merc Black) cause the 3070 i wanted only had 8GB of vRAM. Considering i have a card that was close to a 3070 with 2022 drivers and it's now better than a 3070ti in 1080p@144Hz maxed out raster with 2024 drivers (but also only 3% slower than an rx6800 after my oc+uv tweaks): i'm going to skip 1440p and upgrade monitor + gpu to max out 4k@144Hz in the future with rdna6 and cheap oled displays that dont burn in.
i had a Titan card for over 5 years and it ran all new games in 4k ultra but at 30-40fps. i bought a budget 3060 rtx prebuilt. it ran 4k games depending on the game can get 50-60 fps. you really don't need anything stronger than 3060 unless you want 4k and 60+ fps. if you are a 1k 2k gamer just get 3060. I might build a custom for 5060 rtx cards or intel battle mage cards.
The point is that you can keep that card many years and dont have to buy new after 3-4years. I have rtx 1070 ti for 8years and planning to buy battlemage when released
@@ketsi3079 that is the point but you got some idiot streamers and youtubers that claim you need 4090 or 4080. you dont.
I think the introduction of handheld PCs like the Steam Deck did contribute a lot. Now, developers need to keep in mind that their games should be playable on APUs which means you can get along with a decent dedicated GPU all the time.
My GTX 970 runs Ratchet and Clank A Rift Apart in 1080 at a smooth 60, and Tarkov runs smooth on every map except Streets. Im looking into upgrading to the 4070TI super as an upgrade.
Im still on my GTX 1080 and it just works when games have options like fsr / xess . i can run starfield on 1440p medium at about 60fps with frame gen and it doesnt feel choppy.
Me with a GTX 1050 Ti in 2024 😂😂😂😂
GPU`s are not evolving enough
What else is there to evolve? Nothing.
@@AMDFan-s1y Horse n cart was pretty good for a while.
My son is using my old pc with a GTX 680, it's fine for the games he's playing, that system is over 12 years old and can still play games like forza at low settings.
i have a gtx 750 titanium , still works fine
I'm still using a processor from 2011 (AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition). Upgraded from a GTX460 768MB to a GTX 960 2GB in 2016.
The GTX 480, Nvidia's top of the line card in 2010, was $499.99 !
The GTX 470 was $349.99
my GPU upgrade cycle. GF 2 MX400 > GF FX 5700 > GF 7600GS > GF 8800GTS > GTX 260 > GTX 680 > GTX 1070 Ti > now RTX 3080.
And mine is idk dead idk dead heat you see one is alive and kicking but can't play game one and now 1070🎉 ill go foe 5000 or amd
My gpu is 260=1070ti maybe intel next year
Sounds like me but I started with the 3DFX Voodoo 2 and stopped with the 8800GTS and last year jumped into a 1660SC and a 3060 12Gb is my top card now.
@@GTORazor I started with the integrated graphics of a mobile Celeron from like 2015 (was on some Acer AIO), then to a GT 710 in my first actual PC tower, then to a 730, then an RX 460 until it died, and now im chilling with an RX 580. I might think about buying an RX 6700 XT or something
@@ashii_ii sounds like you were trapped by your hardware and unable to play the way you wanted to.
Alan Woke was garbage. 60% of playtime went to games that were 6 year or older in 2023. The top games were like GTA5 though I am sure they meant GTAO games like Fortnite were also on the list. There are many reasons why people aren't upgrading like they used to. The biggest reason is most of the new games are woke trash. Filled with woke trash bugs broken and barely functioning games. Games sell GPU's. GPU's don't sell themselves. People usually upgrade for a game. When all the games are garbage tier there is no point in upgrading. Then you have the usual list of mundane reasons. The prices have gone up really high. A GPU you could have bought for $500 years ago now cost $700-$800. The economy stinks and no one has any money. When people need credit cards to pay their bills or buy groceries GPU's are not the top priority. Though the media denies it for certain reasons we are pretty much in a recession at this point. We have been for a while. You don't need the latest and greatest GPUs to play games from half a decade ago or more. I'm still using the RTX 2070 Super I bought back in 2019.
My RTX3080 is 3.5 years old and still strong in most games
Yeah it’s faster than a 4070.
unfortunately, the 10 gbs of vram is kicking my butt rn. i’m upgrading to 7900 xtx currently
I have a 3070 Ti and can run Helldivers 2 and Starfield on ultra settings at 75 Hz.
Cards don't start hitting peak performance until a year or two after launch. No point putting down the sheets on cutting edge, better to wait until the drivers are fully baked and save a few Quid.
And here i am still playing with my 1070 ti, dd2 last title.i played and 0 crashes, 0 bugs 60fps
just upgraded from
i5 6600k/R9 390 to a
7800x3D/4080 SUPER
two days ago and it has been life changing graphics look so good. it took 8 years like the title said
This is awesome. I went from a 9900k/1080 TI to a 13700k/RX 7900XT last year and it made a world of difference. I can only imagine how you feel.
Actually, before that, I was on a i5 4670 with a 750 TI so I think I can kinda empathize lol. Enjoy!
I've had my 2060 RTX for 5 years. There's very little I cant play on it, so I'll squeeze more out of it for a few years, no problem
My gt 1030 (bought used) is still going, bought ages ago, still don't feel the beed to upgrade, i just don't play games so intensive
only reason i'm upgrading my r9 390 is because i couldn't get it working well in linux
I think it's an AMD thing. My GPU is fairly new, rx 7900 gre, and I can't get Linux to run well for shit. I'll come back to it in a year.
when i upgraded to a 6800 i had some weird crashing issues but they solved after upgrading the kernel to 6.9.3, something in the newer but not newest versions mustve been screwed up
The games are trash and the cards are too expensive.
Well prepare for games to get a lot more depending In graphics.
There just isn't many games that push the envelope of even the current gen game consoles, let alone gpus.
Old cards do still work. I still have my GeForce 256 from 99 that still works.
I have a 1080 Ti and a 3080. So, when Nvidia added the upscaling update to my 1080 Ti, that card was given a new life. And then on Steam, if you buy lossless scale for 7 bucks, now you have frame generations. The 1080 Ti is the goat.
As other people have said in the comments, this video is over analysing, the main reason people aren't upgrading is because GPU's are ridiculously expensive now. Nvidia (and AMD to a lesser extent) have priced themselves out of the market. Now most people are waiting until a new mid-range card offers up roughly twice the performance of their present card, so we are seeing people skipping generations. We all want to feel like we are getting good value for money and it just doesn't feel that way anymore.
Majority of players didn't chase new hardware even before the whole 2018+ era of price hikes.
Most games on the market dont need strong cards that is enthusiast level. I am still on my 1080 because there isnt any new games worth a stronger card right now and a lot of studios are actually starting to optimise their games enough that i can enjoy some really impressive visual games even with that old card at stable 60FPS.
And i think that is key optimisation is finally getting better and the GPU market needs a kick in its nuts HARD.
Somthing to think about is that it's becoming increasingly common for people to have more than one PC. I've got a GTX 1080ti in my second pc.
Reasons for delayed upgrades -
1. Higher prices.
2. Higher power requirements.
3. Minor nanometer jump in chip fabrication, compared to previous generations.
4. No new Direct-X version as of late.
5. Upscaling technology like FSR and XESS
6. Rise of online multiplayer games.
7. FSR3 frame generation.
I told people that gaming tech had evolved to the point around 2018 where you were going to be able to keep these hardware pieces for a couple of years before you needed an upgrade… and even then “needing an upgrade” is “I can’t run max settings but I can still do high” 😂😂😂. It’s not like it was in the late 2000s/early 2010s and even before that.