"Chapters ... may appear glorious and inspiring or savage and primitive ... depending on where they come from and where the observer comes from." The last point about the observer's origins is important and little nuances like this are why I love the overviews on this channel!
That image of Tyberos is most certainly the most fantastic depiction of how terrifying it would be to come face to face with a marine in a war zone - innocent or not, an enemy or not, there is bound to be a trauma induced by the sheer terror of an eight foot THING walking towards you, backlit by the flames of a burning city.
@@lucasahumada6913 No, it does not. That's people mixing up terms. Terminator armor has often been calles tactical dreadnought armor. It doesn't actually mean the parts are from dreadnoughts.
this was really good. i had no idea astartes didn't worship the emporer as a general rule, or that they're not at the command of the imperium. i've been working on a homebrew chapter (The Obsidian Sceptres, an Iron Hands ultima founding successor) and i've now got a bunch of cool new ideas for how they operate and how they interact with their home world
I am really interested to see where they go with the story, given how Gulliman seems to think something has gone wrong with how brutal and removed the Space Marines are and how keeping worlds as savage wastelands just to breed warriors (when Ultramar never seems to struggle for worthy child soldiers) is inhumane. A lot to explore there.
The way you break down the intricate information into "bite-size" sections for 40K terms while leaving out very few key pieces all the while delivering it in a calm while passionate manner is in my humble oppinion second to none. Praise and props where its most certainly earned, thank you.
One interesting thing I remember seeing is that even amongst those chapters that worship the Emperor as a god, most of them do not do this according to the Imperial Creed as spread by the Ecclesiarchy. Only a few chapters, such as the Fire Angels, follow the Imperial Creed itself.
I listened to the audiobook of "The Crimson Fist" recently. There are a couple of scenes with Rogal Dorn and Sigismund which really give you a sense of the disgust and disdain the Primarchs (and by extension the Emperor I suppose) had for those joining the, then just starting, cult of Emperor worship that would grow into a pillar of the current Imperium.
Dont forget kids Ian is a cop. He is an undercover Arbiter. He WILL get you to confess accidentally to heresy, all the while being buddy buddy with you.
In all honesty, your lore videos are quickly becoming one of my favorite things on TH-cam. The presentation is absolutely top-notch. Would love to see your take on the Siege of Vraks
"Not like all factions, their story starts with the unification wars back on terra...." The matching sentence in the vid was slightly different, but we all heard this version in our heards, with Ian's voice ahah.
Can we all just acknowledge for a moment how well written and delivered these videos are. I don't really care about Warhammer, but I wish I could communicate this well.
Ian. I don't know if you ever intend on doing a video on the influences that went into creating 40k but if you do (and even if you don't because it's awesome) I'd suggest reading 2000ad's "Nemesis the Warlock" series as there are some HUGE ideas that 40k "echoed".
Great overview! This is the kind of thing that you show to someone who isn't familiar with all of the lore, and they come away with a base understanding of the faction. Kudos.
This is going to be a great series. Thanks again for the summary, every one of these I learn something new - and I've been a warham for like (checks notes) holy crap I'm old
"The Astartes, named for the scientist that led the project" I'd just always assumed that "Adeptus Astartes" was sort of 41st Millennium cod-Latin for "Masters of the Stars"
That would be Adeptus Stellae! I think the original reference was to Astarte, the ancient goddess of fertility and war - appropriate for genetically reborn warriors. But heresy had a character called Amar Astarte who leads the project.
@@ArbitorIan That all makes sense. And I guess the push to use more copyrightable names made it get used more often. They were just "Space Marines" when I was playing, and "Adeptus Astartes" was a bit of lore. Like Imperial Guard vs Astra Militarum or Eldar vs Aeldari, Orcs vs Urruks etc.
Really good video! Amazing work! One question: at 16:37 where you mentioned that the vast majority of space marines do not worship the emperor, where can one read more about this? It was really interesting to hear.
People who commented earlier than video's release must have conducted some foul tzeentch magics. Gotta say - Heresy a small price to watch Ian's videos early!
Just read an article in which the authors interviewed you AribtorIan (they did Snipe n Wib as well). It dovetails nicely with the last line of this video. I've gotta say, it's very disappointing that the people who could learn the most from satire (40k, 2000AD The Punisher etc) are the most oblivious to it.
This was great. I have always been most interested in the specialist officers of the Marine Chapters, and in particular the TechMarines. I have never really understood the exact relationship that they have with Mars. They go there to be trained and there is obviously a very close relationship, but it's not clear why or how this exists (between Mars and every individual Marine Chapter!), or what the Mechanicus get from it.
Would assume Mars are forced by some ancient decree to train the Marines and in return they get some influence over to the Chapters. The fact that Enginseers would neither be welcomed nor be able keep up with most Astartes chapters is a factor as well. Then there's the risk if AdMech wouldn't train Tech-marines that the Chapters would begin to experiment and learn about tech on their own
Would love to hear more about how the Primarchs were scattered, or has there been no more lore on that? I know it was always suggested that chaos was behind it, but how?! Also, I feel like I remember hints that maybe the emperor had done it himself as some sort of test for the primarchs. May well just be seditious talk.
Now imagine all this came from a tiny metal blob on a plastic stand :-) Your summaries are truly amazing and saves me from ploughing through all that bloated GW stuff - not to mention all the money it saves me (and don't give me any 'GW IP' rant - most of the GW 'lore' is clearly copied directly from original and fictional myth, lore and historical references anyway). Great work - Thanks, Ian.
His ANGELS! Don’t you forget it! We can overlook the occasional examples of excessive force. You can’t make an omelette without breaking a few spines....I mean EGGS, yeah that’s the ticket. 🤨
I hate when all the content creators I could listen to for hours decide to make short to the point videos, and then people I can't stand blabber on for ever without actually getting to the point. Arbitor Ian if you see this, I think I speak for many when I say, if you want to talk about a topic for more than 20 minutes I will still watch your content.
It's from the Horus Heresy CCG, where the art features tons of random local variants. These designs would eventually turn into the Praetor pattern helmets used on Ultramarines MK4 Armour.
Lore & Retrospectives Playlist gang shout out! 🤣🤣 (I didn't even have to click through, btw, it was just visible at the bottom of the th-cam.com/users/ArbitorIan channel page)
so one marine can use his 2 Progenoid Glands to create 2 more marines? so during "optimal conditions or more peaceful times" the number of marines could double each "generation"?
Yes, in theory. That's how Chapters who have suffered devastating numbers rebuild their losses. Obviously it's never perfect so it never actually ends up with a regeneration rate like that!
There's also large geneseed banks on chapter homeworlds and IIRC the largest ones are on Mars (containing pure geneseed pulled straight from the primarchs). So during "peace," they can create a surplus. With enough surplus, there's a founding of new chapters.
There is also a regular tithe of gene-seed they have to send to the Adeptus Mechanicus so that their genetors can check for any abnormalities or instability in the chapters.
I made a custom Chapter, which are descents of the Black Templars. My Chapter is called the Gray Hussars, the name mirroring the Prussian Life Hussars. The adopted their culture from a sacred tome from ancient Terra of the Teutonic Order. Because of that they all have German Aristocratic names and titles. They adapted their old Black Templars faith into a far more Roman Catholic version of the Imperial Cult with Chaplains conducting the Sacrifice of the Emperor against Horus the Arch Traitor and the members of the Chapter drink of the Emperor's Blood, wine in the place of blood, that was shed at the hands of Horus, one time the wine used did turn to actual blood and was recorded as a miracle. They guard the Saras Sector of Space as a Fleet Based Garrison Chapter and due to their massive mandate by the High Lord's of Terra, they have pushed the limit on Astartes far past it's limits.
I didn’t know the new lore so this exact part was like a dissociative hallucination for me GW: “What if we had another go at the Emperor character but this time he’s unambiguously a white saviour?”
"The Space Marines are the heroes of the Imperium. And that should tell you a lot about the Imperium." - that is a great quote, I'm stealing that.
I really need to cut that end bit out and make it a reel for everyone who never gets that far!
Great closing line!
Likewise, the brutal orks are the comic relief, which speaks volumes about the setting.
Your final line - ‘they are the heroes of the imperium which tells us everything about the imperium’. Perfect.
"Chapters ... may appear glorious and inspiring or savage and primitive ... depending on where they come from and where the observer comes from." The last point about the observer's origins is important and little nuances like this are why I love the overviews on this channel!
That ending summation was quite good!
That image of Tyberos is most certainly the most fantastic depiction of how terrifying it would be to come face to face with a marine in a war zone - innocent or not, an enemy or not, there is bound to be a trauma induced by the sheer terror of an eight foot THING walking towards you, backlit by the flames of a burning city.
Also the fact tyberos is so big his terminator plate has dreadnought parts in it
@@lucasahumada6913 No, it does not. That's people mixing up terms. Terminator armor has often been calles tactical dreadnought armor. It doesn't actually mean the parts are from dreadnoughts.
@@richardmunoz2995 thanks for the info
The novels often refer to that phenomenon as transhuman dread.
@@andrewahrens214 The uncanny valley....
this was really good. i had no idea astartes didn't worship the emporer as a general rule, or that they're not at the command of the imperium. i've been working on a homebrew chapter (The Obsidian Sceptres, an Iron Hands ultima founding successor) and i've now got a bunch of cool new ideas for how they operate and how they interact with their home world
Great!
Sounds fun. 🙂
I am really interested to see where they go with the story, given how Gulliman seems to think something has gone wrong with how brutal and removed the Space Marines are and how keeping worlds as savage wastelands just to breed warriors (when Ultramar never seems to struggle for worthy child soldiers) is inhumane.
A lot to explore there.
For some people, surviving in a brutal wasteland is a fantasy! Maybe Guilliman could make living on these planets a voluntary thing.
The way you break down the intricate information into "bite-size" sections for 40K terms while leaving out very few key pieces all the while delivering it in a calm while passionate manner is in my humble oppinion second to none. Praise and props where its most certainly earned, thank you.
Bloody hell Ian.. I genuinely can't believe how great your content is.
More please, always more.
He got the height of Space Marines and Primaris wrong.
@@JohnnyZenith I may have missed it, but I don't think he gives direct height numbers for them?
An absolutely perfect breakdown of everything, as usual
"Problems started to arise..." The degree of understatement is absurdly delicious.
"Colonel Commissar, something's awry."
And then things got worse!
@@Dagenham_Swish Sure as sure...
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 oh most definitely they did, and the stone's been rolling ever since.
"And I will call them my Angels of Death" a brilliant summary of Space Marines!
Great summary. Nice to see the return of the Thousand Sons flannel.
That ending summation was excellent. (Chef’s Kiss)
One interesting thing I remember seeing is that even amongst those chapters that worship the Emperor as a god, most of them do not do this according to the Imperial Creed as spread by the Ecclesiarchy. Only a few chapters, such as the Fire Angels, follow the Imperial Creed itself.
I listened to the audiobook of "The Crimson Fist" recently. There are a couple of scenes with Rogal Dorn and Sigismund which really give you a sense of the disgust and disdain the Primarchs (and by extension the Emperor I suppose) had for those joining the, then just starting, cult of Emperor worship that would grow into a pillar of the current Imperium.
Dont forget kids Ian is a cop. He is an undercover Arbiter. He WILL get you to confess accidentally to heresy, all the while being buddy buddy with you.
That's not the story your pal told us. You wanna revise that comment?
In all honesty, your lore videos are quickly becoming one of my favorite things on TH-cam. The presentation is absolutely top-notch. Would love to see your take on the Siege of Vraks
"Not like all factions, their story starts with the unification wars back on terra...."
The matching sentence in the vid was slightly different, but we all heard this version in our heards, with Ian's voice ahah.
I really enjoy those videos you make about the 40k/30k lore. They are loaded with information and very easy to follow. :)
Man your way of telling these stories can't be beat! What a sentence to end on, I think it's just good rethoric.
Can we all just acknowledge for a moment how well written and delivered these videos are. I don't really care about Warhammer, but I wish I could communicate this well.
Thanks!
Love the sneaky inclusion of the Midwinter Minis space marine artwork!
Always a few little gems of info that you share from the books I've not read. 🙌🏼
What an excellent video and thorough explanation of the space marines, love your videos I have learnt so much about the 40k universe via them 👌
Ian. I don't know if you ever intend on doing a video on the influences that went into creating 40k but if you do (and even if you don't because it's awesome) I'd suggest reading 2000ad's "Nemesis the Warlock" series as there are some HUGE ideas that 40k "echoed".
That was just a really good video. Solid lorewise and entertaining too.
Again quality video, really enjoyable. Thanks, looking forward to the next one.
Very excited for the breakdown of the Ork command structure. Nice lengthy video.
I love when the lore is presented like this, so concise and clear, easy to understand. Makes me feel like a Space Marine learning his history
I REALLY liked this video, well explained, gave me information in a way I didn't know
Ian, all your content is great, but this was especially fantastic. Thanks so much!
Thanks!
Great overview! This is the kind of thing that you show to someone who isn't familiar with all of the lore, and they come away with a base understanding of the faction. Kudos.
So so good Ian, thanks. Never really had an idea of what happened after the Horus Heresy. Incredible
I would say I have a somewhat ok grip on 40k lore and wouldn’t need these intro vids but I still watch them because they are so well put together
I found the graphic at 10:%7 fascinating. Would you consider making a video about the hierarchy/organization of the Imperium?
You always manage to bring some new artwork and your own interpretation of the lore.
If I ever knew that the Thunder Warriors were divided into 20 Legions, then I forgot it. I really wish we knew more about them.
Would love to see lore videos on the rest of the factions too!
2nd one dropped today
Perfect, concise summary. Love your lore videos.
Excellent video and explanation! Your channel is my go-to for Warhammer lore. Thank you!
Another great video, really liked the summation about once you dig into it, they are a great example of the contradiction of the Imperium.
Always enjoy these deep dives into the lore. Concise while still being very informative.
A cracking final line! Very nice summary, thanks.
This is going to be a great series. Thanks again for the summary, every one of these I learn something new - and I've been a warham for like (checks notes) holy crap I'm old
Another brilliant video was great to meet you Saturday !
This channel is solid! Good stuff.
GREAT video Ian! You covered the massive universe incredibly well in 20 minutes. As always your art selection in particular is on point! 🤘💀🤘
One of the reasons I enjoy your videos is that you are probably the only youtuber that pronounces "Roboute" correctly.
Another great video on 40k lore. Really good channel and plenty of good quality videos. I’m now humming the intro music without realising now! 😂
I’m new to the hobby…. This is a brilliant introduction.
"The Astartes, named for the scientist that led the project"
I'd just always assumed that "Adeptus Astartes" was sort of 41st Millennium cod-Latin for "Masters of the Stars"
That would be Adeptus Stellae! I think the original reference was to Astarte, the ancient goddess of fertility and war - appropriate for genetically reborn warriors. But heresy had a character called Amar Astarte who leads the project.
@@ArbitorIan That all makes sense. And I guess the push to use more copyrightable names made it get used more often. They were just "Space Marines" when I was playing, and "Adeptus Astartes" was a bit of lore. Like Imperial Guard vs Astra Militarum or Eldar vs Aeldari, Orcs vs Urruks etc.
Well put at the end
This is a solid gold banger Ian
I read this initially as "Solid Gold Badger" and got throughly confused ;)
That final reflexion about the Space Marines contradictions was truly beautiful and terrible.
Another great video. Thank you
Really good video! Amazing work!
One question: at 16:37 where you mentioned that the vast majority of space marines do not worship the emperor, where can one read more about this? It was really interesting to hear.
that last line is gold
Another great video!
Shit, you said "hero of the Imperium" now I wanna see a Ciaphas Cain video.
Thanks for the video
As usual ian, you nailed it. Great vid, thank you.
Another great video Ian! Thank you very much!
1:22 where is that artwork from? would love to examine it, crazy seeing the split view of in armor and out
Excellent video, great work once again.
Awesome video. Thank you for removing the propaganda sheen at the end of the video. Keep up the good work.
Great info thanks for making these videos !
Would love to see a video like this on other factions, like the Orks or the Tau.
Me, who has read a concerning number of Space Marine novels: Yeah, I'll watch this.
Absolute home run mate!
Nice to see the Post-Vetruvian Man in the wild.
People who commented earlier than video's release must have conducted some foul tzeentch magics.
Gotta say - Heresy a small price to watch Ian's videos early!
But if you don't fancy Heresy, then Patreon also works!
@@ArbitorIan oh right! Thanks for the reminder, I meant to chip in for weeks now c:
As always, good job!
Fantastic summary.
Just read an article in which the authors interviewed you AribtorIan (they did Snipe n Wib as well). It dovetails nicely with the last line of this video. I've gotta say, it's very disappointing that the people who could learn the most from satire (40k, 2000AD The Punisher etc) are the most oblivious to it.
I love these videos. Thanks, Ian. 🙂
This was great. I have always been most interested in the specialist officers of the Marine Chapters, and in particular the TechMarines. I have never really understood the exact relationship that they have with Mars. They go there to be trained and there is obviously a very close relationship, but it's not clear why or how this exists (between Mars and every individual Marine Chapter!), or what the Mechanicus get from it.
Would assume Mars are forced by some ancient decree to train the Marines and in return they get some influence over to the Chapters. The fact that Enginseers would neither be welcomed nor be able keep up with most Astartes chapters is a factor as well.
Then there's the risk if AdMech wouldn't train Tech-marines that the Chapters would begin to experiment and learn about tech on their own
That was really good!
Nice to see the inclusion of both Astartes and Erda.
This was really cool! Will you do a video on chaos marines and their organization or lack there of?
great video, are we going to see something like this for all the factions (I hope so)
Would love to hear more about how the Primarchs were scattered, or has there been no more lore on that? I know it was always suggested that chaos was behind it, but how?! Also, I feel like I remember hints that maybe the emperor had done it himself as some sort of test for the primarchs. May well just be seditious talk.
Best info (hints really) is that from the first few HH novels
Now imagine all this came from a tiny metal blob on a plastic stand :-) Your summaries are truly amazing and saves me from ploughing through all that bloated GW stuff - not to mention all the money it saves me (and don't give me any 'GW IP' rant - most of the GW 'lore' is clearly copied directly from original and fictional myth, lore and historical references anyway). Great work - Thanks, Ian.
That picture of Horus at 5:59 looks like he shit his pants. 😂😂
hoping you'll make a video about the eldar or orks next.
9:10 Mr Nipples 😆
I think this one has had too much Slaanesh space dust...
His ANGELS! Don’t you forget it! We can overlook the occasional examples of excessive force. You can’t make an omelette without breaking a few spines....I mean EGGS, yeah that’s the ticket. 🤨
I hate when all the content creators I could listen to for hours decide to make short to the point videos, and then people I can't stand blabber on for ever without actually getting to the point. Arbitor Ian if you see this, I think I speak for many when I say, if you want to talk about a topic for more than 20 minutes I will still watch your content.
Now you just need to make the obligatory "Nicest nice guy marines/Most evil monster marines" list video
What pattern is the helmet on 7:40?
It's from the Horus Heresy CCG, where the art features tons of random local variants. These designs would eventually turn into the Praetor pattern helmets used on Ultramarines MK4 Armour.
Lore & Retrospectives Playlist gang shout out! 🤣🤣 (I didn't even have to click through, btw, it was just visible at the bottom of the th-cam.com/users/ArbitorIan channel page)
Pst... 21 primarchs, plus the freaky proto primarch.
The space marines don't predate the high lords. Their creation was under investigation by a high lord in Valdor: Birth of the Imperium.
Superb!
so one marine can use his 2 Progenoid Glands to create 2 more marines? so during "optimal conditions or more peaceful times" the number of marines could double each "generation"?
Yes, in theory. That's how Chapters who have suffered devastating numbers rebuild their losses. Obviously it's never perfect so it never actually ends up with a regeneration rate like that!
There's also large geneseed banks on chapter homeworlds and IIRC the largest ones are on Mars (containing pure geneseed pulled straight from the primarchs). So during "peace," they can create a surplus. With enough surplus, there's a founding of new chapters.
There is also a regular tithe of gene-seed they have to send to the Adeptus Mechanicus so that their genetors can check for any abnormalities or instability in the chapters.
Brilliant ending
I made a custom Chapter, which are descents of the Black Templars. My Chapter is called the Gray Hussars, the name mirroring the Prussian Life Hussars. The adopted their culture from a sacred tome from ancient Terra of the Teutonic Order. Because of that they all have German Aristocratic names and titles. They adapted their old Black Templars faith into a far more Roman Catholic version of the Imperial Cult with Chaplains conducting the Sacrifice of the Emperor against Horus the Arch Traitor and the members of the Chapter drink of the Emperor's Blood, wine in the place of blood, that was shed at the hands of Horus, one time the wine used did turn to actual blood and was recorded as a miracle. They guard the Saras Sector of Space as a Fleet Based Garrison Chapter and due to their massive mandate by the High Lord's of Terra, they have pushed the limit on Astartes far past it's limits.
Personally when i think 40k, my first thought is their iconic zerg race.
For the Algorithm!
And also, another great video.
Did anyone else black out between 09:43-10:48😜
I didn’t know the new lore so this exact part was like a dissociative hallucination for me
GW: “What if we had another go at the Emperor character but this time he’s unambiguously a white saviour?”
@@Michael_Raymond yeah the lore about Primaris isn't great in any capacity
Very nice
I didn't know that about dreadnoughts