I just found your helpful information. Ugh, but my pastels are already completed and I will have to try to do this without disturbing the pastel. Wish me luck! Thank you
This is a fabulous technique. I hope to share your method with my pastel society. Thanks so much. Lorie Callahan Founder and First President of the Pastel Society of North Carolina
Can you do a wet under painting without it buckling with this method? Or does the paper have to be completely sealed to the board to prevent curling? I think this is a great method. Thank you for showing how it’s done.
Is this method for edge to edge framing?, what if you want to place a matt around the work, do you have a demo for that? Thankyou for your videos, they're great.
I am not a fan of mats, so this method works great for framing without a mat. I am sure you could still do this just to give a bit more stability to the artwork.
Very helpful and informative. Question: many of my pastels aren't yet frame-worthy, but for the ones that do turn out well, can I mount them AFTER they're complete (so I don't waste the material/time)? I realize I may need to clean up the finished pastel after, but I'm a bit hesitant to mount these prior to doing the painting. Any recommendations?
You can try to do this process after, and as you said you may have to fix it after. I honestly wouldn't worry about past works unless there is one or two you really love or if you have a buyer. You will make so many more great ones, that going forward you can try this method. For the old ones you can still frame them with the spacers, and not mount the pastel. This method is best practice for future pastels.
I have never tried this method, but if you enjoy it and it works well for you, I say do it. I spend so much time prepping panels for oil painting, that using a paper or foam core that comes prepared for me is a joy, because I feel like it saves me a step.
Foam core can warp & dent. I would never use it as a painting support. If you want to make your own panels, I would use hardboard or birch plywood or something similar instead, coated with isolation coats of acrylic gel medium. And then a layer of acrylic gesso & then pumice or pastel ground medium. Mounting paper on foam board using highly expensive lineco linen acid free tape seems unreasonable simply because that tape is too expensive. (Like $30 per roll, and you could only do 1 or 2 boards). I would buy prepared boards if I am going to that expense.
+Lindypaints Oh sorry, I will be released soon, not quite ready yet, but I felt like I needed to get this one uploaded. If you subscribe and turn on the bell you will be notified when it is live.
Hi Guenevere Schwien, great video! I was wondering what would be the best surface to apply the Acrylic Ground for Pastels so that it would be easy to mount afterwards. I live in Brazil and there's very few options as far as pastel papers go, and I really wanted to be able to make mine own surfaces. My inicial plan, watching your video, would be to apply the ground to a thick watercolor paper, mount that paper on foam core and procede as normal. But, i was wondering if applying the Acrylic Ground on some kind of acid free wood panel wound be a good idea or not (to save some time). What are your thoughts on those? Thanks a lot!!
I haven't made any of my own papers so I think you will have to do some experiments. Please let me know what you decide is the best, but I am sorry I don't have any advice in this department.
You can prepare a wood board for pastel ground. You first coat the wood with an isolation coat (of gloss gel medium) with a couple of coats, & top that with a couple of coats of gesso. Then, you use pastel ground on the top layer.
Would you still tape the paper to the foam core before you start your artwork if you need the foam core to be larger than the paper to allow for mat board?
+John Slepecki jr I'm not sure which tape you are talking about. You tape on the back and have it hanging off, then tape over those prices if tape. The tape never touches the front of the art paper.
Sharon Elizabeth Super late comment but for anyone reading from now on, this method is different in that it the painting is able to be separated from the mounted board. The other method Sharon pointed out is irreversible when you cover the entire back of the paper with adhesive and stick it to the board. With this method of hinge-taping in the video, you can simply cut the tape at the edge of the paper to release it from the board. This allows future owners/galleries to change the backing board (and the frame that board fits) as they feel fit. This TH-cam channel (at least the mounting and framing videos) seem to be directed towards working artists by providing tips for professional, archival results.
I use artists tape. I make a loop with the sticky side out so it is almost like doubles sided tape and then press it on to my surface. I use a 45 degree desktop. If you watch my studio tour video you can see my pastel desk.
I have seen foam core sheets warp, while simply sitting in paper stacks in my studio; so this method concerns me?? Foam core also easily dents, as another concern, considering the extreme expense of all the materials used in the demo. Mounting with highly expensive lineco linen acid free tape, (which is meant only for small spots of hinging), by going all the way around the whole painting... and twice at that, seems fully unreasonable to me, simply because that tape is too expensive. (Like $30 per roll, and you could only do 1 or 2 boards). I would buy prepared boards if I am going to that expense. I don't understand why cost is not considered as ruling out this method by the demo artist? Thanks for sharing your ideas, nonetheless.
Well if you are selling your art the expense should be covered by your price. I prefer to use quality materials on my quality artwork and my clients are willing to pay for that.
@@GuenevereSchwien Thanks for the input. I agree with using archival, professional materials, but I still cannot grasp this method that requires tape that is so extremely priced. I am curious why you don't just do something like isolation coat + gesso a wood board, & then coat on top with pastel ground. A wood board won't dent, it is not as fragile as paper, and would actually be much less expensive because of the outrageous cost of the lineco tape. I could make several wood boards for the price of one paper on foam board using the lineco tape.
Can you use acid free invisible tape instead of linen hinging tape? And a masonite (also called MDF) board coated with varnish or acrylic gel medium (to make that an acid free backing) instead of foam core? What you're using is difficult and/or expensive to find where I live.
Guenevere - I just starting using pastel and I'm glad I found your videos before I created too many without your invaluable advice. Thank you!
Ditto!
Great clear instruction on how to do this process. Very helpful! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
I just discovered this and I love it so much thank you for all the info
Thank you for the clear instructions! ❤️
I just found your helpful information. Ugh, but my pastels are already completed and I will have to try to do this without disturbing the pastel. Wish me luck! Thank you
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Thanks so much for sharing.
This is a fabulous technique. I hope to share your method with my pastel society. Thanks so much.
Lorie Callahan Founder and First President of the Pastel Society of North Carolina
I have some finished pastels and want to attach them to a foam core board.. I need help..thank You.. I love you videos!
Be very careful if using this technique on a finished piece.
Can you do a wet under painting without it buckling with this method? Or does the paper have to be completely sealed to the board to prevent curling? I think this is a great method. Thank you for showing how it’s done.
Amazing, thank you 😊
Thanks for the video! Definitely easier to mount before starting the art!
+Khantahr Gald you found the video helpful!
This was super helpful, thank you so much! ❤️
Is this method for edge to edge framing?, what if you want to place a matt around the work, do you have a demo for that? Thankyou for your videos, they're great.
I am not a fan of mats, so this method works great for framing without a mat. I am sure you could still do this just to give a bit more stability to the artwork.
Great video! Thank you! ❤️
Very helpful and informative. Question: many of my pastels aren't yet frame-worthy, but for the ones that do turn out well, can I mount them AFTER they're complete (so I don't waste the material/time)? I realize I may need to clean up the finished pastel after, but I'm a bit hesitant to mount these prior to doing the painting. Any recommendations?
You can try to do this process after, and as you said you may have to fix it after. I honestly wouldn't worry about past works unless there is one or two you really love or if you have a buyer. You will make so many more great ones, that going forward you can try this method. For the old ones you can still frame them with the spacers, and not mount the pastel. This method is best practice for future pastels.
Thanks Gwen, this is something I needed to know 😊
+April Palmer Oh good, glad I could help someone. Let me know if you have any questions and I'd love to see what you put on your paper!
Guenevere Schwien How do I best share with you ? email address ??
+April Palmer You can direct message me on Instagram, or Twitter those are probably the best places. Links are on my Channel page.
Would acid-free double sided tape, all around the outside edge on the back of the paper, work equally as well to attach it to the foamcore?
I think you can run into warping that way. This way is actually sort of stretching the paper like a canvas so it is less likely to sag or warp.
What are your thoughts about prepping the foam core with Pumice Gel and painting the pastel directly on that surface.
I have never tried this method, but if you enjoy it and it works well for you, I say do it. I spend so much time prepping panels for oil painting, that using a paper or foam core that comes prepared for me is a joy, because I feel like it saves me a step.
Foam core can warp & dent. I would never use it as a painting support. If you want to make your own panels, I would use hardboard or birch plywood or something similar instead, coated with isolation coats of acrylic gel medium. And then a layer of acrylic gesso & then pumice or pastel ground medium. Mounting paper on foam board using highly expensive lineco linen acid free tape seems unreasonable simply because that tape is too expensive. (Like $30 per roll, and you could only do 1 or 2 boards). I would buy prepared boards if I am going to that expense.
This was great, thanks for the tips. I looked for your video about framing a pastel, but can't see it??
+Lindypaints Oh sorry, I will be released soon, not quite ready yet, but I felt like I needed to get this one uploaded. If you subscribe and turn on the bell you will be notified when it is live.
th-cam.com/video/5o0c7TaHwv8/w-d-xo.html Here you go Lindy.
Super. Thank you very much
Your welcome
Hi
Guenevere Schwien, great video! I was wondering what would be the best surface to apply the Acrylic Ground for Pastels so that it would be easy to mount afterwards. I live in Brazil and there's very few options as far as pastel papers go, and I really wanted to be able to make mine own surfaces. My inicial plan, watching your video, would be to apply the ground to a thick watercolor paper, mount that paper on foam core and procede as normal. But, i was wondering if applying the Acrylic Ground on some kind of acid free wood panel wound be a good idea or not (to save some time). What are your thoughts on those? Thanks a lot!!
I haven't made any of my own papers so I think you will have to do some experiments. Please let me know what you decide is the best, but I am sorry I don't have any advice in this department.
You can prepare a wood board for pastel ground. You first coat the wood with an isolation coat (of gloss gel medium) with a couple of coats, & top that with a couple of coats of gesso. Then, you use pastel ground on the top layer.
Sounds like a good idea to me. I haven't tried working in wood with pastels so I can't offer any advice on materials.
This sounds like a great plan.
Would you still tape the paper to the foam core before you start your artwork if you need the foam core to be larger than the paper to allow for mat board?
Go Beavers!
How do you frame pastelbord?
Can this work for oil pastels?
I would imagine so, but I have not used oil pastels so I can not give advice.
Where to buy the foam core? I am from Paris. Can I use wood? 🤔
very lengthy process. is it possible to use wood glue apply on th edges of foam board and paste pastel board? I guess this procedure save time.
what brand pastel paper are you using?
When I watch this, the tape overlaps on to the paper art side, it looks like to me? Or am I mistaken with the backboard?
+John Slepecki jr I'm not sure which tape you are talking about. You tape on the back and have it hanging off, then tape over those prices if tape. The tape never touches the front of the art paper.
Ok, I know I mixed up the back board as the front some how! Know I got it thank you.
Sharon Elizabeth Super late comment but for anyone reading from now on, this method is different in that it the painting is able to be separated from the mounted board. The other method Sharon pointed out is irreversible when you cover the entire back of the paper with adhesive and stick it to the board. With this method of hinge-taping in the video, you can simply cut the tape at the edge of the paper to release it from the board. This allows future owners/galleries to change the backing board (and the frame that board fits) as they feel fit. This TH-cam channel (at least the mounting and framing videos) seem to be directed towards working artists by providing tips for professional, archival results.
@@mypandapaints5854 So helpful, thank you!
So you 're drawing over the tqpe ?
There is no tape on the face of the pastel paper. Watch carefully.
How do you attach then to easel ?
I use artists tape. I make a loop with the sticky side out so it is almost like doubles sided tape and then press it on to my surface. I use a 45 degree desktop. If you watch my studio tour video you can see my pastel desk.
@@GuenevereSchwien so how does that hold tight whilst you are painting?
I guess I am not a wild and vigorous pastelist. It doesn't move around at all.
I have seen foam core sheets warp, while simply sitting in paper stacks in my studio; so this method concerns me?? Foam core also easily dents, as another concern, considering the extreme expense of all the materials used in the demo. Mounting with highly expensive lineco linen acid free tape, (which is meant only for small spots of hinging), by going all the way around the whole painting... and twice at that, seems fully unreasonable to me, simply because that tape is too expensive. (Like $30 per roll, and you could only do 1 or 2 boards). I would buy prepared boards if I am going to that expense. I don't understand why cost is not considered as ruling out this method by the demo artist? Thanks for sharing your ideas, nonetheless.
Well if you are selling your art the expense should be covered by your price. I prefer to use quality materials on my quality artwork and my clients are willing to pay for that.
@@GuenevereSchwien Thanks for the input. I agree with using archival, professional materials, but I still cannot grasp this method that requires tape that is so extremely priced. I am curious why you don't just do something like isolation coat + gesso a wood board, & then coat on top with pastel ground. A wood board won't dent, it is not as fragile as paper, and would actually be much less expensive because of the outrageous cost of the lineco tape. I could make several wood boards for the price of one paper on foam board using the lineco tape.
Is that a Beavercreek High School sweatshirt(Ohio)?
+ANKO-Chan Baker Nope, I've never been to Ohio.
did you say 8 INCH foam core??
No, she said "eighth" inch.
METHOD not recommended for those with shaking hands like me!
Can you use acid free invisible tape instead of linen hinging tape? And a masonite (also called MDF) board coated with varnish or acrylic gel medium (to make that an acid free backing) instead of foam core? What you're using is difficult and/or expensive to find where I live.