hi i am one of the vice presidents of the San Diego Pastel Society, this is a great tutorial I am going to share this to my group! thank you for the high quality content!
Thank You!! I finally bit the bullet and bought a roll of sanded paper. It was quickly clear that hinge mounts were not going to work on the larger pieces of paper. Ready to beat my head against the wall, I thought I would first check on TH-cam. That’s when I found your video. It works out fantastically! Thank you for saving my pastels, sanity and a trip to the ER!
Ramona Fusco that is hilarious! I am laughing over here. Really glad to save you some time, frustration, injury and paper! All the best in your painting.
This video was one of the best in understanding how to mount pastel paper to a board. I'm wondering, though, if there's an alternative to gatorboard bcuz that stuff is sooo expensive! By the way, I love that painting of the sunset over your left shoulder. Just stunning!
Hi Eoin, thanks for the idea, I will consider it! In the meantime, if you buy a roll of glassine, you can cover your unframed pastels so they can be stacked and stored. All the best!
Thank you for the video, Alain. I have been using double tack mounting sheets, but I like the idea of a roll, better. When I take off the backing paper, I peel back a little at a time and can then start adhering the sanded paper a bit at a time, and use my brayer as I go along, so there's less chance of bubbles forming. I keep peeling the paper away from underneath as I go. It's been very successful. I will try the 3M paper, though, may be even easier.
Thanks, Dana, so glad you have an effective method for mounting! That's really all that matters so you can work effectively. Who produces the double tack mounting sheets? It's always good to know our options! All the best
Seems like everyone just passes on the same info over and over until I'm ready to tear my eyes out! YOU have just saved me sanity as well as money! What an amazing informative video which I am now forever grateful! I was just about to take 100. sheets of paper for dry mounting! I love the fact that I can now mount my paper myself in my studio! BRILLIANT🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I have been a fan ever since I saw my first TH-cam Video of you!. This kinda of generous "secrets" sharing continue to bring me back to your tips, videos, and printed materials. PLEASE DO AN ON LINE VIDEO SERIES for those of us in the "boonies", a.k.a., out in the far country, that can NOT get to good teaching or even supplies. We keep Dakota and all other venues for art supplies busy on line.
Extremely helpful!! As a newer artist, expenses matter, So the more I can DIY the better. Someday, I look forward to having a framer to work with. Thanks!
I know every penny counts, and I'm glad this was helpful. You can buy this adhesive in sheets that are smaller as well as the roll. That would save money as well. Take one step at a time and keep painting!
I would really have liked to seen the already finished work mounted as I have more than a few pictures I would like to mount and would like to see more than 1 demonstration! your video is great for plain paper but I seek a finished picture mounting video! Thanks again!
Same approach, just tack a sheet of glassine over your finished pastel work so it doesn't get smudged while applying the adhesive backing. It's really not much different. Give it a try!
Alain this video was a great lesson for me as pastels are also new to me and I'm always searching for info on how to work with this beautiful medium. I love how generous you are with your knowledge. By the way...your work is absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for this video. Just made my own board and it works wonderfully. Made a gouache board for the same reason as the pastel. No buckling! Seems like it’ll work. I did notice it does peel off a little when left to rest vertically. Prob needs to be left under weight for a little! Thank you again
UPDATE: 3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way. www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
Thank you so much, Alain! I have experienced warping with Uart paper & foam core mounting, so this video is a wonderful help! The 3M 568 adhesive looks great! I have used PVA Archival adhesive and a foam brush, but results have been inconsistent. All the best, Yvonne Holland
This is such an easy way to Mount my paper! It’s so much easier than trying to use a spray adhesive. I’m hoping the edges will stay in place and not lift up when I try a wet underpainting. Thanks for sharing this tip, Alain!
I had trouble finding gator board so I used acid free foam core board. Don’t do it! It worked ok for 9x12, but when I went bigger, the divots from from the foam core, created furrows that made it impossible to get a smooth pastel coverage. Lesson learned!
I get around this by making my own pumice board using a heavyweight archival illustration board (I learned this from Ellen Eagle). However I love having options, especially since I’m itching to try UArt Dark paper! Thank you talking this through!
Just downloaded your pastel supply let and I love its completeness, and also just watched and downloaded your mounting video and list. I am so very appreciative of all your information and have learned so much. I've been doing pastels for years, but now I see how incomplete my attempts were (even tho I put myself thru college at age 34 by doing sidewalk portraits!). Thank you so much, and I look forward to each and every video.
You are so wonderful to share this with us. This question was on my mind as I just complete my 2nd Annual Strada Easley 30 day challenge. Your art is exquisite!❤️Blessings to you and your family!
Thank you Alain for this great video and the guide! I ordered the 568 after watching your video, and it just arrived. I'm looking forward to trying it out in the next few days.
Thanks Alain. So far, it's going very well! I've mounted six sheets of 8x10 UArt 400, and will try mounting some larger sheets pretty soon. I like the 568 adhesive a lot. Before seeing your video, I bought a can of spray adhesive and now I'm thinking I don't even want to use it :>)
OK Cindy, you get extra love for thanking me for the guide! That's kind, and I'm really glad you find it helpful! You're the first person to say thanks for the guide, and it means a lot! I put my heart into those guides to make them helpful for you all!
Thanks so much for the video I have tried mounting paper before unsuccessfully but now I know the secret. Love your videos so informative and clearly explained. I appreciate your time and effort.
I have done some small 9x12 sheets of Wallis paper unfinished and they worked fine. Taking a finished work - I was a little concerned. But the glassine in between that painting and 3M supplied finishing paper sounds pretty good. I like the 3M positionable adhesive film. Works really well and thanks again for the great video!
This was useful, but fir some reason I thought you were going to show us how you mount the work behind a mount frame as in the sunset picture behind you. I understand that if you mount a pastel with glass, you have to leave a gap to allow any pastel dust to drop below the painting. Could you show us how to do that next time please? Many thanks Alain!
Behind you , in this video, you have a pastel framed without a mat and one framed with a mat. What prompts each choice? I’ve been doing plain air pastels for forty years and have learned so much in the last five videos I just can’t imagine how I’ve gotten this far. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your knowledge and teaching. Thank you thank you thank you. Perhaps I will now go from a B to an A+!
I assume this would be used for directly placing the pastel under glass? Otherwise, wouldn't this cause concerns with the addition of mats around the perimeter on a standard (traditionally) framed & matted pastel?
All pastels must be place under glass for protection. But this method allows for a painting frame style presentation. If you will frame with a mat, you can mount art with a border for the mat.
Thank you Alain. This was so well put together....easy and clear. Did you share anything on how to frame pastel? I'm new to pastel since PastelLive, so I want to know the best way to frame.
Thank you Alain for such a useful instructive video on mounting pastels. I enjoy and learn so much from your videos and am very grateful to you for the information you provide. Your artwork is phenomenal.
Thank you Sylvia, I am very honored! So glad you enjoy the lessons, It's my hope to bring encouragement and equipping to other artists like you! All the best.
Great, Alain - just need to sort out how to carefully do fixative and finish the framing, keeping the painting away from the glass - taking me a long time to decide to do this! Jane/Oxford
Jane Lintern you can get frame spacers that will line the inside of your frame behind the glass and keep the pastel spaced off the glass. They work well. You can do it!
The thickness of the mounting board did not allow for store bought backing to be inserted for the type of frame that sits on a dresser vs wall. I loved this video though!! I’m just wondering if there is a better thickness of mount board that would allow receiver to use a stand up frame if desired. Also, I’ve heard of 4 or 8 ply Matt board used? Drawbacks if any? Blicks told me true gatorboard way too hard to cut with utility knife and acid free foam core seems like it could bend or buckle (and it’s artist quality good thickness). But everything else I get and love. A video on plus and minus and thickness options would be informative. Thank You for this video!!!
you can mount to 4ply or 8ply museum board, excellent choice. 3/16" gatorboard is not hard to cut with good clean utility knife. You can mount to Sintra, a plastic surface, or aluminum as well. But Aluminum, while very archival, is not at all easy to cut. So gatorboard works well as a hard and light surface, and 8ply museum board is a very archival surface.
Is that adhesive good for archival mounting? Does that damage the paper and your final works after years becouse of the pH value of the adhesive layer?
Thank for your reply Alain. I was thinking I could mount it carefully after the painting was complete...using glassine. Have you ever used a brayer to press paper to board with this product? Your tip about painting with Mi Tient using a few sheets as a cushion is great . Will give it a try.
Excellent video. I have a question on a different matter: how do you deal with pastels dust in the studio? I watch someone using a vacuum. What is your advise on this?
Absolutely, you can do that. Just keep in mind that foam board can warp when it's bigger, so I would use it for smaller works if possible. All the best!
Thanks so much for this video, Alain, and all of your videos. I wasn't familiar with this 3M product. I sometimes order my boards from Dakota, and sometimes from ProArt Panels, but the sizes i prefer to work on are not standard sizes. I will definitely try this product. Thanks again :-)
How about other boards? 1/8” wood.? Foam core.? I love these videos and share them with my pastelist friends. Congratulations on African princess of yours showing in Pastel Journal!
Thank you Nancy, that is great! So glad you are sharing the videos. Foam core would work great, however it does warp so keep that in mind. I don't think wood works with this product, you would need to use a glue for wood I believe, but I haven't tried it. Works great with any paper or polymer based product like museum board, mat board, gator board, etc. All the best!
What great information! Thanks so much! I just came across Bainbridge Self Adhesive Backing Board. I don't know if it's new but it seems so easy for some smaller pieces that I want to mount. I would love to know if you have used it and what your thoughts are regarding this. Thanks so much!
I use Gator-board.com and 3m adhesive is discontinued. You can buy self-adhesive gatorboard www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm. Artgrafix.com has everything too.
UPDATE: 3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way. www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
I recently watched this video but the 3m 568 self adhesive positional product is no longer available. Is there another positional adhesive you would recommend? Thanks
3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way.
Can it be mounted in a frame with passepartout with tape, just like watercolor paper? This kind of framing doesn't look suitable for use with passepartout.
Alain, thank you for this! While researching the process I learned that the 3M 568 PMA has been discontinued. Do you know of a good alternative? Or any experience with using those self-adhesive gatorboards?
3/16" is correct. 3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way. www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
Hi Alain. Thank you for this video. Would this process also work with a Canson paper such as Mi-Teintes? Or would the adhesive transfer through over time? Thanks!
Hi there, good question. Actually, no I don't think you can. Linen canvas requires a more durable and powerful adhesive like glue. I used to mount my own canvas to panel or board with a product called Miracle Muck. It's essentially a high quality fabric glue. Takes a day to dry. This product is really only suitable for papers.
Thanks for showing steps. Is the adhesive material will not influence the quality of the pastel paper over time. Like hot temperature will not melt the adhesive or loose its adhesiveness overtime.
Harry Gray: This video was clear, well demonstrated, to the point and I will be looking for the adhesive 3M materials pronto. I see this as being a great aid and a time saver when exploring for subject matter when painting in the field, En Plein Air. Thank you. One question. What do you feel about VARNISHING a pastel and avoiding using glass?
How do you propose to varnish the pastel? Do you mean spray fixative ? Spraying your pastel might seriously alter its appearance ! To keep your colors fresh, don't spray anything on the pastels ! I buy cheap frames with glass at thrift stores.
If it is not framed, then it goes in a clear bag to be stored, and if it is large, I cover it in glassine. But mounting a larger board generally means it will be framed. All the best!
thanks for sharing. Question: this might be obvious statement. With this method, if you mount a sheet of sanded paper, but want to put in frame with a mat, you are losing e.g. 3 inches around painting. So I guess you have to measure inside dimensions of frame being used to cut appropriate size of backing board and paper. Then be ok with wasting some of your sanded paper. I just mounted Uart using pre-cut foam core that came with sticky side. With this product some of the work is done except I didn't use roller first time to mount paper, so the edges curled a bit. Then I realized unless I frame without a mat it won't "pop" into my frame. It's a journey :)
Hi Candice, good question. Essentially to mount sanded paper to a backing board that you wish to add a mat around, you'll just need to measure the additional matted area before mounting. Then just mount your sanded paper to the middle section of the backing board with the additional 3" or so around the sides. Don't waste sanded paper, just use a bigger backing board. Does that make sense? I don't mat, so I just mount to the edges. But it absolutely can be done by placing the adhesive on the sanded paper first, then sticking the paper onto the larger sized backing board with your mat dimensions accounted for. Hope that helps!
Man you look like a Hollywood star!! And your voice man i can listen to you all day!!
Love you work!! 🔥🔥
hi i am one of the vice presidents of the San Diego Pastel Society, this is a great tutorial I am going to share this to my group! thank you for the high quality content!
crys cameron thanks so much for sharing with your group! I am so glad you found it helpful. It’s a pleasure to meet you here on TH-cam. All the best!
Thank You!! I finally bit the bullet and bought a roll of sanded paper. It was quickly clear that hinge mounts were not going to work on the larger pieces of paper. Ready to beat my head against the wall, I thought I would first check on TH-cam. That’s when I found your video. It works out fantastically! Thank you for saving my pastels, sanity and a trip to the ER!
Ramona Fusco that is hilarious! I am laughing over here. Really glad to save you some time, frustration, injury and paper! All the best in your painting.
Great video. I'd recommend having the paper slightly bigger than the board and then trim it down once it's glued to the board
that works well, thanks!
Would love a demo of how to mount a painted pastel - thanks for the instruction here!
This video was one of the best in understanding how to mount pastel paper to a board. I'm wondering, though, if there's an alternative to gatorboard bcuz that stuff is sooo expensive! By the way, I love that painting of the sunset over your left shoulder. Just stunning!
Can you make a video about how you store your finished paintings please
Hi Eoin, thanks for the idea, I will consider it! In the meantime, if you buy a roll of glassine, you can cover your unframed pastels so they can be stacked and stored. All the best!
Thank you for the video, Alain. I have been using double tack mounting sheets, but I like the idea of a roll, better. When I take off the backing paper, I peel back a little at a time and can then start adhering the sanded paper a bit at a time, and use my brayer as I go along, so there's less chance of bubbles forming. I keep peeling the paper away from underneath as I go. It's been very successful. I will try the 3M paper, though, may be even easier.
Thanks, Dana, so glad you have an effective method for mounting! That's really all that matters so you can work effectively. Who produces the double tack mounting sheets? It's always good to know our options! All the best
Thanks so much, Alain! I'm learning so much about pastels through your videos.
You are very welcome, Karen! So glad you learned a lot!
Seems like everyone just passes on the same info over and over until I'm ready to tear my eyes out! YOU have just saved me sanity as well as money! What an amazing informative video which I am now forever grateful! I was just about to take 100. sheets of paper for dry mounting! I love the fact that I can now mount my paper myself in my studio! BRILLIANT🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I have been a fan ever since I saw my first TH-cam Video of you!. This kinda of generous "secrets" sharing continue to bring me back to your tips, videos, and printed materials. PLEASE DO AN ON LINE VIDEO SERIES for those of us in the "boonies", a.k.a., out in the far country, that can NOT get to good teaching or even supplies. We keep Dakota and all other venues for art supplies busy on line.
Thanks so much, Chawol, that's kind. I'm so glad you enjoy the videos!
Extremely helpful!! As a newer artist, expenses matter, So the more I can DIY the better. Someday, I look forward to having a framer to work with. Thanks!
I know every penny counts, and I'm glad this was helpful. You can buy this adhesive in sheets that are smaller as well as the roll. That would save money as well. Take one step at a time and keep painting!
I would really have liked to seen the already finished work mounted as I have more than a few pictures I would like to mount and would like to see more than 1 demonstration! your video is great for plain paper but I seek a finished picture mounting video! Thanks again!
Same approach, just tack a sheet of glassine over your finished pastel work so it doesn't get smudged while applying the adhesive backing. It's really not much different. Give it a try!
Alain Picard Thank You! I look forward to your future videos!
Alain this video was a great lesson for me as pastels are also new to me and I'm always searching for info on how to work with this beautiful medium. I love how generous you are with your knowledge. By the way...your work is absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much.
Wow, so much easier and cleaner than spray adhesive! Thanks!
Excellent! Just what i was looking for! Enjoy all of your videos, so informative!! Also love you work!
Thank you!! This will save so much money and my work will be ready to take to the framer!!
Pastel is the most high maintenance medium in the art world! (But I love it anyways!)
Thanks so much for this video. Just made my own board and it works wonderfully. Made a gouache board for the same reason as the pastel. No buckling! Seems like it’ll work. I did notice it does peel off a little when left to rest vertically. Prob needs to be left under weight for a little! Thank you again
UPDATE: 3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html
Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way.
www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
Excellent Alain. Was wondering how to do that. Many thanks for this awesome video man.
You are very welcome, Andrew. Glad I could help! Give it a try for yourself now. All the best!
Thank you so much, Alain! I have experienced warping with Uart paper & foam core mounting, so this video is a wonderful help! The 3M 568 adhesive looks great! I have used PVA Archival adhesive and a foam brush, but results have been inconsistent.
All the best,
Yvonne Holland
You are very welcome, Yvonne, I hope this helps! It has worked well for me.
This is such an easy way to Mount my paper! It’s so much easier than trying to use a spray adhesive. I’m hoping the edges will stay in place and not lift up when I try a wet underpainting. Thanks for sharing this tip, Alain!
Watched for second time . Wonderful ! Thanks .
I had trouble finding gator board so I used acid free foam core board. Don’t do it! It worked ok for 9x12, but when I went bigger, the divots from from the foam core, created furrows that made it impossible to get a smooth pastel coverage. Lesson learned!
the best alternative to Gatorboard is Museum Board in 4ply or 8ply. It is archival and rigid with a smooth surface. It works great.
Very useful, thanks for sharing!
I get around this by making my own pumice board using a heavyweight archival illustration board (I learned this from Ellen Eagle). However I love having options, especially since I’m itching to try UArt Dark paper! Thank you talking this through!
Love your videos and your soothing voice! Thank you!!!!
Nice way to mount
Just downloaded your pastel supply let and I love its completeness, and also just watched and downloaded your mounting video and list. I am so very appreciative of all your information and have learned so much. I've been doing pastels for years, but now I see how incomplete my attempts were (even tho I put myself thru college at age 34 by doing sidewalk portraits!).
Thank you so much, and I look forward to each and every video.
that is fantastic, way to go!
You are so wonderful to share this with us. This question was on my mind as I just complete my 2nd Annual Strada Easley 30 day challenge. Your art is exquisite!❤️Blessings to you and your family!
Hey friend! I love it when you upload!
Aww, that's really nice. Thanks! It's so much fun to hear that you like upload days!
Thank you Alain for this great video and the guide! I ordered the 568 after watching your video, and it just arrived. I'm looking forward to trying it out in the next few days.
That's great Leslie! Good luck, I think you will do well with it. Let me know how it goes!
Thanks Alain. So far, it's going very well! I've mounted six sheets of 8x10 UArt 400, and will try mounting some larger sheets pretty soon. I like the 568 adhesive a lot. Before seeing your video, I bought a can of spray adhesive and now I'm thinking I don't even want to use it :>)
Thank you for this Alan. This was something that I wanted to learn. See you in the next video. And perhaps in the studio as my favorite teacher.
You're welcome Shelia, so glad this helped you. I'm really honored to be your favorite teacher! I wish you the very best in the studio, keep painting!
Great Video! Thank you!
Hi, Alain! Great video!
Aww, thanks Joan! So nice to hear from you, and you were the very first comment on this new video! Hope you're doing well, all the best friend!
Thanks Alain!!! Sharing in Monet Café!!!
Awesome, thanks Susan! Always excited to help your friends at Monet Cafe! Happy painting this week. Talk to you soon!
Thank you!!!! and thank you for the guide to download...can't wait to try it!!!
OK Cindy, you get extra love for thanking me for the guide! That's kind, and I'm really glad you find it helpful! You're the first person to say thanks for the guide, and it means a lot! I put my heart into those guides to make them helpful for you all!
@@AlainPicard ..they are very helpful and I truly appreciate it....😊❤
Thanks!
No problem! Glad it helps
OMG! You are a life saver!! Thank you Alain! No more curling paper for me hahaa!
Thank you, Alain, for your helpful tips!
You are welcome Tonia. I am glad the tips are helpful!
Thanks so much for the video I have tried mounting paper before unsuccessfully but now I know the secret. Love your videos so informative and clearly explained. I appreciate your time and effort.
You're welcome! So glad it helps. That's my goal, so you can keep painting!
Thank you very much Mr Alan!! 👍👍👍
You are welcome Francisco.
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing this information with us.
Glad you enjoyed it Diana!
I have done some small 9x12 sheets of Wallis paper unfinished and they worked fine. Taking a finished work - I was a little concerned. But the glassine in between that painting and 3M supplied finishing paper sounds pretty good. I like the 3M positionable adhesive film. Works really well and thanks again for the great video!
Don Smith awesome. Glad it helped you!
This was useful, but fir some reason I thought you were going to show us how you mount the work behind a mount frame as in the sunset picture behind you. I understand that if you mount a pastel with glass, you have to leave a gap to allow any pastel dust to drop below the painting. Could you show us how to do that next time please? Many thanks Alain!
Instablaster
Thank you for sharing your wonderful skills. This is very informative and useful.
Behind you , in this video, you have a pastel framed without a mat and one framed with a mat. What prompts each choice? I’ve been doing plain air pastels for forty years and have learned so much in the last five videos I just can’t imagine how I’ve gotten this far. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your knowledge and teaching. Thank you thank you thank you. Perhaps I will now go from a B to an A+!
very helpful
Thank you
You're welcome.
I assume this would be used for directly placing the pastel under glass? Otherwise, wouldn't this cause concerns with the addition of mats around the perimeter on a standard (traditionally) framed & matted pastel?
All pastels must be place under glass for protection. But this method allows for a painting frame style presentation. If you will frame with a mat, you can mount art with a border for the mat.
Thank you! Wonderful tip.
A Mel you bet, glad to help!
Thanks, very clear to follow.
Love your videos.
That's very kind Gigi, thanks so much. It's really fun to share the art of pastel with you all!
Very helpful videos. Thank you
You're welcome, my pleasure!
Thank you so much for this video!
Great video- so helpful!
Christine Vitarello so glad to see you showing up here in the comments on TH-cam!! Keep up the awesome work.
Extremely helpful!
Excellent! So glad to hear it. Give it a try!
So helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! All my best Cindy!
I have had success with spray adhesive.
Thank you Alain. This was so well put together....easy and clear. Did you share anything on how to frame pastel? I'm new to pastel since PastelLive, so I want to know the best way to frame.
Thank you Alain for such a useful instructive video on mounting pastels. I enjoy and learn so much from your videos and am very grateful to you for the information you provide. Your artwork is phenomenal.
Thank you Sylvia, I am very honored! So glad you enjoy the lessons, It's my hope to bring encouragement and equipping to other artists like you! All the best.
So. Informative thankful for your expertise.
Thank you so very much, really helpful
You are welcome Anthea. I am glad this video is helpful to you.
Thank you helpful information.
Hi Barbara, you're welcome. Glad you found it helpful! I wish you the very best. Keep painting!
Great, Alain - just need to sort out how to carefully do fixative and finish the framing, keeping the painting away from the glass - taking me a long time to decide to do this! Jane/Oxford
Jane Lintern you can get frame spacers that will line the inside of your frame behind the glass and keep the pastel spaced off the glass. They work well. You can do it!
They are called EconoSpace 1/4” frame and glass separators in clear or black.
Great painting. Thank you.
Very helpful video 🙂
Thanks Alain...I'm becoming more and more interested in pastel work (could it overtake my love of watercolor?) Your videos are immensely helpful!
Wonderful! Pastel and watercolor make a beautiful combination!
Wonderful information. Thank you.
I use self stick backing board. I believe it's by Crescent. So much easie,r as you just cut to size, and then peel and stick.
that's great, wonderful solution.
Just watching this again (3 years later). can you use Mat board instead of gator? thank you.
Absolutely. I prefer to use Museum board, it's archival and comes in 4ply or 8ply for larger works.
Thanks so much. I did it!!!!! Hooray!!
Great job! So happy for you Jeannette!
The thickness of the mounting board did not allow for store bought backing to be inserted for the type of frame that sits on a dresser vs wall.
I loved this video though!! I’m just wondering if there is a better thickness of mount board that would allow receiver to use a stand up frame if desired.
Also, I’ve heard of 4 or 8 ply Matt board used? Drawbacks if any? Blicks told me true gatorboard way too hard to cut with utility knife and acid free foam core seems like it could bend or buckle (and it’s artist quality good thickness). But everything else I get and love. A video on plus and minus and thickness options would be informative. Thank
You for this video!!!
you can mount to 4ply or 8ply museum board, excellent choice. 3/16" gatorboard is not hard to cut with good clean utility knife. You can mount to Sintra, a plastic surface, or aluminum as well. But Aluminum, while very archival, is not at all easy to cut. So gatorboard works well as a hard and light surface, and 8ply museum board is a very archival surface.
Is that adhesive good for archival mounting? Does that damage the paper and your final works after years becouse of the pH value of the adhesive layer?
Thank for your reply Alain. I was thinking I could mount it carefully after the painting was complete...using glassine. Have you ever used a brayer to press paper to board with this product?
Your tip about painting with Mi Tient using a few sheets as a cushion is great . Will give it a try.
Excellent video. I have a question on a different matter: how do you deal with pastels dust in the studio? I watch someone using a vacuum. What is your advise on this?
Thank you for a great video for emerging artists like me. One question, can I use a foam board instead of a gator board? Thanks again!
Absolutely, you can do that. Just keep in mind that foam board can warp when it's bigger, so I would use it for smaller works if possible. All the best!
@@AlainPicard Thanks very much, Alain, I love your videos, I learn so much from you! 🙏🙏🙏
my pleasure@@pookyflower I'm so glad you find them helpful!
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Thanks so much for this video, Alain, and all of your videos. I wasn't familiar with this 3M product. I sometimes order my boards from Dakota, and sometimes from ProArt Panels, but the sizes i prefer to work on are not standard sizes. I will definitely try this product. Thanks again :-)
Great, I think you'll find it pretty easy. Not as easy as having your framer do it though, if you can trust them that is. All the best in your work!
Unfortunately 3M is no longer making this reposition paper… what an we use instead?
How about other boards? 1/8” wood.? Foam core.? I love these videos and share them with my pastelist friends. Congratulations on African princess of yours showing in Pastel Journal!
Thank you Nancy, that is great! So glad you are sharing the videos. Foam core would work great, however it does warp so keep that in mind. I don't think wood works with this product, you would need to use a glue for wood I believe, but I haven't tried it. Works great with any paper or polymer based product like museum board, mat board, gator board, etc. All the best!
What great information! Thanks so much! I just came across Bainbridge Self Adhesive Backing Board. I don't know if it's new but it seems so easy for some smaller pieces that I want to mount. I would love to know if you have used it and what your thoughts are regarding this. Thanks so much!
That sounds like it's worth trying, especially on small works. Give it a shot and let us know how it goes!
Alain, if possible, where do you purchase your gator board from. Thank you for this very well done video.
I use Gator-board.com and 3m adhesive is discontinued. You can buy self-adhesive gatorboard www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm. Artgrafix.com has everything too.
Can you let me know if this is archival...are there chemicals during the mount that stain over the years.
Alain, can’t find the 3D repositioning sheet that you are using. Is there a substitute?
UPDATE: 3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html
Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way.
www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
You're awesome!
Thank you Belinda, you are too kind!
I recently watched this video but the 3m 568 self adhesive positional product is no longer available. Is there another positional adhesive you would recommend? Thanks
3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html
Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way.
Could you also talk about how you frame your artwork? It looks as though there no glass in your framing which I would really prefer 😉
Theres glass, use museum glass for no reflections. Future video on framing sounds like a great idea!
Thank you. Yes I’ve seen this glass at our framer. Ouch it’s expensive 😞
Carol Ferguson Tru Vue Anti Reflective glass is also good for less $
Can it be mounted in a frame with passepartout with tape, just like watercolor paper? This kind of framing doesn't look suitable for use with passepartout.
yes. I have done this many times.
is it recommended to use this adhesive with rice or mulberry paper?
if the paper is very thin, I would test it, this may be a little sensitive. Thicker or more durable papers work well.
Thanks, Alain. I never remember to do this PRIOR to starting a pastel :)
makes it much easier!
Alain, thank you for this! While researching the process I learned that the 3M 568 PMA has been discontinued. Do you know of a good alternative? Or any experience with using those self-adhesive gatorboards?
cannot find 3/8, is 3/16 ok ? thank you Alain
3/16" is correct.
3M 568 Positionable Adhesive has been discontinued. Use Repositionable Adhesive Coated Gatorboard like this as an altrenative: www.artgrafix.com/store/page136.html
Artgrafix.com will provide other double-sided adhesives that can be used in the same way.
www.gator-board.com/self-adhesive-gator-board.htm
Hi Alain. Thank you for this video. Would this process also work with a Canson paper such as Mi-Teintes? Or would the adhesive transfer through over time? Thanks!
I have mounted that paper this way. no problem
thanks for the great instruction. can we use this method for mounting linen canvas to a board ???
Hi there, good question. Actually, no I don't think you can. Linen canvas requires a more durable and powerful adhesive like glue. I used to mount my own canvas to panel or board with a product called Miracle Muck. It's essentially a high quality fabric glue. Takes a day to dry. This product is really only suitable for papers.
@@AlainPicard Thanks again. Appreciate your helpful information. And by the way, great channe. 😊
Thanks so much @@mariapolis !
Thanks for showing steps. Is the adhesive material will not influence the quality of the pastel paper over time. Like hot temperature will not melt the adhesive or loose its adhesiveness overtime.
no change occurs over time. I have had pieces mounted for over a decade without any change. Sanded and coated papers are thick too.
Harry Gray:
This video was clear, well demonstrated, to the point and I will be looking for the adhesive 3M materials pronto. I see this as being a great aid and a time saver when exploring for subject matter when painting in the field, En Plein Air. Thank you.
One question. What do you feel about VARNISHING a pastel and avoiding using glass?
How do you propose to varnish the pastel?
Do you mean spray fixative ?
Spraying your pastel might seriously alter its appearance !
To keep your colors fresh, don't spray anything on the pastels !
I buy cheap frames with glass at thrift stores.
I have a question. How do you store your mounted pastel paper after the painting is completed? Do you frame all of the completed paintings?
If it is not framed, then it goes in a clear bag to be stored, and if it is large, I cover it in glassine. But mounting a larger board generally means it will be framed. All the best!
Thanks so much Alain for this. Wonderful tutorial! Was wondering if you ever used 2 pieces of the adhesive put together on a bigger board?
yes, I have done that.
thanks for sharing. Question: this might be obvious statement. With this method, if you mount a sheet of sanded paper, but want to put in frame with a mat, you are losing e.g. 3 inches around painting. So I guess you have to measure inside dimensions of frame being used to cut appropriate size of backing board and paper. Then be ok with wasting some of your sanded paper. I just mounted Uart using pre-cut foam core that came with sticky side. With this product some of the work is done except I didn't use roller first time to mount paper, so the edges curled a bit. Then I realized unless I frame without a mat it won't "pop" into my frame. It's a journey :)
Hi Candice, good question. Essentially to mount sanded paper to a backing board that you wish to add a mat around, you'll just need to measure the additional matted area before mounting. Then just mount your sanded paper to the middle section of the backing board with the additional 3" or so around the sides. Don't waste sanded paper, just use a bigger backing board. Does that make sense? I don't mat, so I just mount to the edges. But it absolutely can be done by placing the adhesive on the sanded paper first, then sticking the paper onto the larger sized backing board with your mat dimensions accounted for. Hope that helps!
@@AlainPicard of course. So obvious now. Thank you.
You're welcome @@candicewoodard8575 !