Scarab [and the New Man]. The third(forth?) of six Walking Ways, ways by which mortals ( _like Auriel and his dracochrysalis_ ) become gods/attain apotheosis. The Scarab mention is in relation to Ysmir[Wulfharth], who is a prismatic remnant( _the same soul at a different time, shattered brute, with different experiences and personality_ ) of Lorkhan's soul, along with Shor/Shezzar/Talos and is likely a direct reference to the dragonborn of Skyrim, who is "asleep", as in, they've forgotten the preeminence of their soul and the importance of its actions in relation to Mundus and beyond. The Beginning of Time is also the Ending of Time. The overgod is going to sleep / waking up, similar state of mind. Time itself is a product of Mannish intent, or Lorkhan's posthumous Will. Amaranth is only in possession of the overgod itself, and the desiccation of time is 1.)because it's waking up, 2.) because the drakes and jills are tiring/dying, and of course the process was started by the Marukhati Selective, though these particular consequences were unintentional. _(the Selective are those Men who are the creators of Akatosh, who replaced Auriel. This is why Alduin exists, even going back to the beginning of time, because the Marukhati danced on White Gold and shattered the Dragon God's mind, effecting the first dragonbreak and the majority of metaphysical concepts we are aware of. This is why Talos is fundamental, as the center of the Wheel, the only thing keeping it stable, the continuation of Lorkhan's dream. It is also likely the Daedric Princes have vested interest in keeping Time a relevant factor. Other than Jyggalag who is Mad Stasis and not separate from Shegorath and perhaps Peryite who is a shred of Auriel's mind and his desire for Order.)_ The "skullknight"-looking fellow is not Sithis {as sithis is a ghost[and not Mephala], like anuiel. Sithis is misanthropy. Sithis is that remnant emotional enmity Padomay had for Nirn and Anu}, but rather another prismatic shard of the soul that is Lorkhan, and likely the form it takes at that end place of all kalpa. Notice the skeleton is human. A naked human skeleton represents the immortal potential of Humanity, _the Wanderers_ , especially the skull. Mnemoli may be there, but Magne Ge aren't nearly as important as one might suppose. And, another feminine voice we hear is Nir(n). A supposition, the female advisor is Kyne / Kynareth, as that makes the most sense given her lines and relation to the protagonist[Wife of Shor], but within the Realms the p.c. is walking? Kyne's presence as more than a guide is suspect. Maybe she's entered into an Augur, so she might be carried. No certainty there. As for the Dwemer, they're just a more "techno-magic" version of the Thalmor; their devices are all, to a one, to unmake the Mundus and return to pre-Dawn, the Anuic dream shared by most Mer and the Redguard.
The reason why Kyne calls you Wulfharth is, I believe, because you hold the title of Ysmir, the Dragon of the North, the very same title Wulfharth held in life. When the Greybeards recognize you as Dragonborn in the MQ they bestow that title upon you and I imagine that's what Kyne is referring to by comparing/calling you Wulfharth.
Yeah. You are definitely right. I'm glad the modding community remembers that stuff cause Bethesda just kinda does nothing with that. By all rights after defeating alduin we should be taking over the empire and waging war on the elves like most famous dragonborn but I guess we got a hot goth gf and a massive booknerd for a boss.
I think the references to Ysmir may be because the LDB is basically trying to mantle Talos. It makes sense because Ysmir Wulfarth was an integral part of Tiber Septim’s own apotheosis.
Apotheosis could very well end up being the single best mod ever made for Skyrim. I haven't played Skyrim in over two years and I don't plan on coming back for a while, but this proyect just fascinates me. Edit: 4:10 that's literally Skull Knight from Berserk. Now, what is his design being used for?? Your guess sounds interesting.
First of all, congratulations on unlocking the hidden videos. Your theory is interesting and it's not that far-fetched. What we have to understand about Talos is that he is the sum of the souls of 3 individuals, each one represents a "class" within the universe of TES. We have Hjalti (Thief), Zurin (Mage) and Wulfharth (warrior). Also, in the lore, Kyne is described: "She is considered the widowed warrior wife of the god Shor" that this moving the threads to return Lorkan would not be so crazy.
Yooooo. This seems like a pretty good mod in the making, i always love those big scope mods where you get to save the world again (personally im of the opinion Skyrim should have had more DLCs, no idea what Todd was thinking given how much he likes money). As an aside, im not sure on which side i stand on the apotheosis/transcend kalpa-existance question. On the one hand i do think that Lorkhan was right about everything and its the elves fault if they cant appreciate the little things in life. But on the other hand i do also agree with Paarthurnaax when he says that everything that begins must also come to an end and that Alduin (The End) is Akatosh greatest achievement + also with Sotha Sil when he describes the world as "broken but beautiful" despite also being aware of the limitations of his universe, he even described his own death as merely a natural function. So yeah not sure how Kyne and Lorkhan would react to a Prisioner player character telling them a limited mortal life was the greatest gift they gave to mortals. Was it all according to keikaku or did they expect more at that point?
I first watched your Vigilant review and damn I really love your style of explaining/elaborating something. I love the way you put a bit of humor in certain parts yet you stick to the very fact of the lore itself without missing a single bit of info, at least from my perspective. Subbed! By the way, Apotheosis and Beyond Skyrim are the two of most anticipated mods that I am waiting for. And man I love anything related to Daedra and Oblivion Planes!
What an intriguing mod, i've been following its progress in the skyrim modding subreddit. I however disagree with your theory on numidium making an appearance. I would instead go as far as to theorize that the dwemer might be involved in this mod one way or the other. Either the dwemer are going to somehow return when Heart of Lorkhan is recreated (kind of crazy and unlikely) or maybe some surviving remnants of the dwemer colonies will be discovered, or maybe ya boy Yagrum Bagarn will make a comeback.
The Scarab is Lorkhan, iirc. It's mentioned as such in the 36 Lessons of Vivec, when Vivec quotes Mephala's speech "We pledge ourself to thee, the Scarab, the frame-maker...". Ysmir is usually referred to Wulfarth but it's more of a title instead of a real name. Anyway, Wulfarth is known as the Grey Wind and the Storm of Kyne (which is the female voice in the trailer for sure). BUT... Ysmir is also Talos. And also the last Dragonborn. The greybeards call us Ysmir in Skyrim. So, "last of your kind", the last Ysmir... is the last Dragonborn. And the cherry on top... Wulfarth is an Ysmir and he's considered an Avatar of Shor (which is Lorkhan). So maybe every Ysmir in time is also an Avatar of Lorkhan. It all makes sense, if you think it this way, that the last Dragonborn wants to revive the heart of Lorkhan 😬
I remember Apotheosis. Haven't heard about it in a few years though, maybe 5 or 4, so it'd be nice if it actually came out. Oh wow! This is better than I imagined, giving me some DS2 vibes. I can't wait for the breakdown to this mod, homie.
I know this is an old vid but hopefully you see this. In the 36 lessons of Vivec, Boethiah is said to refer to Lorkhan as a scarab which lines up with the focus of this mod being Lorkhan's shattered heart.
Quick google search of scarab symbolism says it’s a symbol of life, death, resurrection, etc. what comes to mind when I hear “failed scarab” is someone, in this case a shezzarine, who failed to bring about the resurrection of some thing which is the function of a scarab in some interpretations of Egyptian myth and this woman is basically telling us “hey do your job”. Alternatively, Scarabs are supposed to ward off disease and death and Tamriel is diseased and dying a slow death.
my brother in Shor. the dragonborn IS ysmir. if A = B, and B = C, then A must also equal C shezarrine is ysmir the dragonborn is (likely) shezarrine if both are parts of shor, then that must mean they are one and the same
7:59 Phi = wheel + tower? tower=I wheel=O turn the wheel and look at the tower. chim. plus: "noble monarch" gods dont consider mortal kings monarchs. true kingship, being a ruling king, having chim. also being called ysmir. they clearly are in for the skyrim's dragonborn = ysmir = talos =+ wulfharth =+ arctus (heresy) idea here. talos is a dragonborn, who achieved chim. the player also has chim, since one has access to ingame console. TAL:OS is THE main character in TES anyway, and the only fitting creature to be "hunted by the gods". c0da being c0da, it is he who solves the primordial strife by reabsorving aka into lkhan and making them one again
TLD having Chim is but a theory, there's nothing to suggest that he has it , only that he shares the madness of aka(tosh) and lorkhan as he is a shezzrin just as Tiber septim (talos) YOU ARE (NOT) A GOD" are the words the numidium told Tiber when he activities it meaning that he is an aspect of lorkhan
ive been waiting for Apotheosis as well. I am a bit sore that Dio took down the Lifeless Vaults mod. He could have left it up for those of us that wanted to play it again. I played it in LE and wanted to go through it again for Special Edition. Im out of luck now.
I'm only hyped for Skyrim mods so far. Other games barely interest me. Also check out Berserk the skeleton dude looks the same and there is an event called the eclipse and also the amulet with the eyes. I bet there will be something related to the godhand.
Two things I have to say: First, that The Elder Scrolls mythology is extremely confusing, convoluted, and has lots of contradictions. One sich strange thing is the fact that identity apparently means nothing in TES. Anu and Padomay birth their own souls, and thus Anui-El and Sithis are born. But wait, isn't the soul supposed to be what gives someone their identity? Did they give birth to themselves? And then somehow their souls became something other than themselves? They hint at the fact that their souls (Anui-El and Sithis) are actually really just themselves. So now there's two of themselves. And then Anui-El births her own soul and thus Auriel/Akatosh is born. Which are actually just themselves, again. And then, some say Sithis birthed his own soul from which Lorkhan was born, but this isn't confirmed, because again, conflicting accounts and confusing lore. But if we assume this to be correct, then Lorkhan is actually just Sithis, and therefore is just Padomay. And Auriel/Akatosh is just Anui-El and therefor just Anu. But wait there's more, cause the leading hypothesis right now is that all the Shezarrines shared the same soul, therefore are actually just the same person reborn. And all the Dragonborns share the same soul and are the same person too, which is why the last Dragonborn (the player character in Skyrim) constantly gets confused with other people such as Hjalti (Talos), Ysmir, and so on. But wait, there's more, cause apparently the shezarrines are reincarnations of Shezarr and therefore Lorkhan. And the Dragonborn is implied to be a reincarnation of/the soul of Akatosh/Auriel because guess what? When you go to Akatosh's realm, Sovngarde, it turns out Akatosh is coincidentally not there at the moment. Oh wow. Couldn't it be that Dragonborn is Akatosh? Yes, yes he is. Therefore, all in all, the Shezarrines are acrually the soul of Lorkhan (who is kinda dead but kinda still hangs around and can be called upon), who is actually the soul of Sithis (but Sithis still exists, so how can Lorkhan possibly be Sithis' soul?!) who is actually Padomay's soul, and the Dragonborns including the main character of skyrim is just the soul of Akatosh/Auriel therefore Anui-El therefore Anu. Only, I guess, with their memories of their previous identities locked. So yeah, in short, you mentioned Wulfharth and said hoe could Kyne possibly be talking to both Wulfharth and the main character of Skyrim? Well, it's cause they're the same person. Same soul, different body. And the second thing I wanna say is I really don't like the story being based on the assumption that the Annotated Annuad is true, because it's just a book, written by a guy, and both contradicts other known facts (for instance says the Daedra are all only of Padomaic blood and the Aedra are a mix of both, but Mara was once an Aedra, and therefore not pure Padomaic blood), and in general contradicts lots of other bits of lore like the Monomyth. Both are not reliable in that both are likely to contain some truth and some errors. So, making the story as if one of them is completely true seems like a mistake to me. Also, can you imagine the Dragonborn (the soul of Akatosh) absorbing the power of Lorkhan?
Can I point out one statement you made? You said Sovngarde is the realm of Akatosh and he is not there. But is it the realm of Shor Nordic version of Lorkhan? Aludin the first child of Akatosh of all the places went to Sovangrade to consume the souls and possibility of destroying that place. Maybe because Aludin knows his dad Akatosh had a history with Lorkhan was doing him a favour?
@@TheOmaraddy yes. Yes you are 100000% correct. I realized my mistake a few days after I wrote that, and it took me into a whole other rabbit whole of "what if the dragonborn somehow is a mix of both Akatosh and Lorkhan?" Obviously we can't base our assumption that the dragonborn isn't just Akatosh but also Lorkhan because Shor wasn't there that one time he went visit. It's not enough evidence. But it's food for thought. My brain was too smooth and tired when I drove into that rabbit hole so I gave up researching. But I might give it another try some day.
@@norielgames4765 No worries. I did enjoy your read and I did study too about the lore of Elder Scrolls but it's too much to consume and too wild XD. I find Dark Souls lore easier to understand and there isn't much lore of it but requires digging history from interacting with NPC or reading item descriptions. The Last DB could be mix of both he does get attention from Daedras too or maybe just Skyrim Daedra quest mechanics we get alot Daedric artifact but none from any Adera.
@@TheOmaraddy that's an interesting point. Why do we get help from daedras but none from aedras? Also, yeah, TES is the wildest lore I've ever read and it hurts my brain sometimes
Vicn quadrilogy and Apotheosis cover a lot of the same themes since both are C0DA inspired projects. Apotheosis sounds more like a Dark Souls/Elden Ring plot, while, at least, Vigilant (since Dac0da, Glenmoril and Unslaad are incomplete) sounds more like a Kojima plot in a dark grit fantasy context with influences from other Japanese titles.
I love the fact that that skeletal figure is literally Skull Knight from Berserk, god I can't wait for this mod
eclipse and everything lol so hyped
Scarab [and the New Man]. The third(forth?) of six Walking Ways, ways by which mortals ( _like Auriel and his dracochrysalis_ ) become gods/attain apotheosis. The Scarab mention is in relation to Ysmir[Wulfharth], who is a prismatic remnant( _the same soul at a different time, shattered brute, with different experiences and personality_ ) of Lorkhan's soul, along with Shor/Shezzar/Talos and is likely a direct reference to the dragonborn of Skyrim, who is "asleep", as in, they've forgotten the preeminence of their soul and the importance of its actions in relation to Mundus and beyond. The Beginning of Time is also the Ending of Time. The overgod is going to sleep / waking up, similar state of mind. Time itself is a product of Mannish intent, or Lorkhan's posthumous Will.
Amaranth is only in possession of the overgod itself, and the desiccation of time is 1.)because it's waking up, 2.) because the drakes and jills are tiring/dying, and of course the process was started by the Marukhati Selective, though these particular consequences were unintentional. _(the Selective are those Men who are the creators of Akatosh, who replaced Auriel. This is why Alduin exists, even going back to the beginning of time, because the Marukhati danced on White Gold and shattered the Dragon God's mind, effecting the first dragonbreak and the majority of metaphysical concepts we are aware of. This is why Talos is fundamental, as the center of the Wheel, the only thing keeping it stable, the continuation of Lorkhan's dream. It is also likely the Daedric Princes have vested interest in keeping Time a relevant factor. Other than Jyggalag who is Mad Stasis and not separate from Shegorath and perhaps Peryite who is a shred of Auriel's mind and his desire for Order.)_
The "skullknight"-looking fellow is not Sithis {as sithis is a ghost[and not Mephala], like anuiel. Sithis is misanthropy. Sithis is that remnant emotional enmity Padomay had for Nirn and Anu}, but rather another prismatic shard of the soul that is Lorkhan, and likely the form it takes at that end place of all kalpa. Notice the skeleton is human. A naked human skeleton represents the immortal potential of Humanity, _the Wanderers_ , especially the skull. Mnemoli may be there, but Magne Ge aren't nearly as important as one might suppose. And, another feminine voice we hear is Nir(n). A supposition, the female advisor is Kyne / Kynareth, as that makes the most sense given her lines and relation to the protagonist[Wife of Shor], but within the Realms the p.c. is walking? Kyne's presence as more than a guide is suspect. Maybe she's entered into an Augur, so she might be carried. No certainty there. As for the Dwemer, they're just a more "techno-magic" version of the Thalmor; their devices are all, to a one, to unmake the Mundus and return to pre-Dawn, the Anuic dream shared by most Mer and the Redguard.
The reason why Kyne calls you Wulfharth is, I believe, because you hold the title of Ysmir, the Dragon of the North, the very same title Wulfharth held in life. When the Greybeards recognize you as Dragonborn in the MQ they bestow that title upon you and I imagine that's what Kyne is referring to by comparing/calling you Wulfharth.
Yeah. You are definitely right. I'm glad the modding community remembers that stuff cause Bethesda just kinda does nothing with that. By all rights after defeating alduin we should be taking over the empire and waging war on the elves like most famous dragonborn but I guess we got a hot goth gf and a massive booknerd for a boss.
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 Purely being Dragonborn isn't enough to be able to claim the Third Empire.
@@diewott1337the army of dragons at our command certainly helps. Not like anyone could stop us
Who's gonna stop TLD tho?@@diewott1337
I think the references to Ysmir may be because the LDB is basically trying to mantle Talos. It makes sense because Ysmir Wulfarth was an integral part of Tiber Septim’s own apotheosis.
Apotheosis could very well end up being the single best mod ever made for Skyrim. I haven't played Skyrim in over two years and I don't plan on coming back for a while, but this proyect just fascinates me.
Edit: 4:10 that's literally Skull Knight from Berserk. Now, what is his design being used for?? Your guess sounds interesting.
Everything about Apotheosis appeals to me, 2025 is gonna be a good year with this and skyblivion
And possibly some of the Beyond Skyrim projects too
this mod gives me the "Zeus your son has returned! I bring the destruction of Olympos!
4:21 that dude is skull knight from berserk
First of all, congratulations on unlocking the hidden videos.
Your theory is interesting and it's not that far-fetched.
What we have to understand about Talos is that he is the sum of the souls of 3 individuals, each one represents a "class" within the universe of TES.
We have Hjalti (Thief), Zurin (Mage) and Wulfharth (warrior).
Also, in the lore, Kyne is described: "She is considered the widowed warrior wife of the god Shor" that this moving the threads to return Lorkan would not be so crazy.
6:59
Also, I'm pretty sure Boethiah calls Lorkhan "the Scarab" in Sermon 10
“The mod I am most excited for”
that makes two of us, been waiting since 2017 for apotheosis now the long wait can come to an end
Yooooo. This seems like a pretty good mod in the making, i always love those big scope mods where you get to save the world again (personally im of the opinion Skyrim should have had more DLCs, no idea what Todd was thinking given how much he likes money).
As an aside, im not sure on which side i stand on the apotheosis/transcend kalpa-existance question. On the one hand i do think that Lorkhan was right about everything and its the elves fault if they cant appreciate the little things in life. But on the other hand i do also agree with Paarthurnaax when he says that everything that begins must also come to an end and that Alduin (The End) is Akatosh greatest achievement + also with Sotha Sil when he describes the world as "broken but beautiful" despite also being aware of the limitations of his universe, he even described his own death as merely a natural function.
So yeah not sure how Kyne and Lorkhan would react to a Prisioner player character telling them a limited mortal life was the greatest gift they gave to mortals. Was it all according to keikaku or did they expect more at that point?
I've been looking forward to this mod since I saw the Spaces between trailer, I can hardly wait to play this!
I first watched your Vigilant review and damn I really love your style of explaining/elaborating something. I love the way you put a bit of humor in certain parts yet you stick to the very fact of the lore itself without missing a single bit of info, at least from my perspective. Subbed!
By the way, Apotheosis and Beyond Skyrim are the two of most anticipated mods that I am waiting for. And man I love anything related to Daedra and Oblivion Planes!
What an intriguing mod, i've been following its progress in the skyrim modding subreddit. I however disagree with your theory on numidium making an appearance. I would instead go as far as to theorize that the dwemer might be involved in this mod one way or the other. Either the dwemer are going to somehow return when Heart of Lorkhan is recreated (kind of crazy and unlikely) or maybe some surviving remnants of the dwemer colonies will be discovered, or maybe ya boy Yagrum Bagarn will make a comeback.
The Scarab is Lorkhan, iirc. It's mentioned as such in the 36 Lessons of Vivec, when Vivec quotes Mephala's speech "We pledge ourself to thee, the Scarab, the frame-maker...".
Ysmir is usually referred to Wulfarth but it's more of a title instead of a real name. Anyway, Wulfarth is known as the Grey Wind and the Storm of Kyne (which is the female voice in the trailer for sure). BUT... Ysmir is also Talos. And also the last Dragonborn. The greybeards call us Ysmir in Skyrim.
So, "last of your kind", the last Ysmir... is the last Dragonborn.
And the cherry on top... Wulfarth is an Ysmir and he's considered an Avatar of Shor (which is Lorkhan). So maybe every Ysmir in time is also an Avatar of Lorkhan.
It all makes sense, if you think it this way, that the last Dragonborn wants to revive the heart of Lorkhan 😬
I remember when i believed it would release in 2018. Oh how naive a child i was.
I remember Apotheosis. Haven't heard about it in a few years though, maybe 5 or 4, so it'd be nice if it actually came out.
Oh wow! This is better than I imagined, giving me some DS2 vibes. I can't wait for the breakdown to this mod, homie.
I know this is an old vid but hopefully you see this. In the 36 lessons of Vivec, Boethiah is said to refer to Lorkhan as a scarab which lines up with the focus of this mod being Lorkhan's shattered heart.
Quick google search of scarab symbolism says it’s a symbol of life, death, resurrection, etc.
what comes to mind when I hear “failed scarab” is someone, in this case a shezzarine, who failed to bring about the resurrection of some thing which is the function of a scarab in some interpretations of Egyptian myth and this woman is basically telling us “hey do your job”. Alternatively, Scarabs are supposed to ward off disease and death and Tamriel is diseased and dying a slow death.
If this mod comes out, it could be the greatest Skyrim mod ever. But beware, many great mods in development never came out, so I'm holding my horses.
THIS IS THE MOD I'M MOST EXCITED FOR TOO
my brother in Shor. the dragonborn IS ysmir. if A = B, and B = C, then A must also equal C
shezarrine is ysmir
the dragonborn is (likely) shezarrine
if both are parts of shor, then that must mean they are one and the same
7:59
Phi = wheel + tower?
tower=I
wheel=O
turn the wheel and look at the tower. chim.
plus: "noble monarch" gods dont consider mortal kings monarchs. true kingship, being a ruling king, having chim. also being called ysmir. they clearly are in for the skyrim's dragonborn = ysmir = talos =+ wulfharth =+ arctus (heresy) idea here. talos is a dragonborn, who achieved chim. the player also has chim, since one has access to ingame console. TAL:OS is THE main character in TES anyway, and the only fitting creature to be "hunted by the gods". c0da being c0da, it is he who solves the primordial strife by reabsorving aka into lkhan and making them one again
TLD having Chim is but a theory, there's nothing to suggest that he has it , only that he shares the madness of aka(tosh) and lorkhan as he is a shezzrin just as Tiber septim (talos) YOU ARE (NOT) A GOD" are the words the numidium told Tiber when he activities it meaning that he is an aspect of lorkhan
ive been waiting for Apotheosis as well. I am a bit sore that Dio took down the Lifeless Vaults mod. He could have left it up for those of us that wanted to play it again. I played it in LE and wanted to go through it again for Special Edition. Im out of luck now.
you should play "death consumes all" if you haven't already
The Greek letter phi is used represent the Golden or Divine ratio. Not sure if anyone else mentioned that.
Could the imagery of the moons eclipsing possibly be a reference to the Necromancers Moon
may also be a reference to a... well, rather huge spoiler to the berserk manga
i just knew this mod weeks ago, and i can't wait for the mod to release next year!
I'm only hyped for Skyrim mods so far. Other games barely interest me. Also check out Berserk the skeleton dude looks the same and there is an event called the eclipse and also the amulet with the eyes. I bet there will be something related to the godhand.
Saw a reddit post connecting the scarab to Lorkhan.
Please keep reviewing mods the way you do, ive watched all your review videos. Keep searching for more like it but cant find it
This trailer is more esoteric than I first though.
This is giving me Dark Souls Vibe
Ive been here since the kurgzegsagt ytp days. Good to see youve moved on from those as is the story of so many famous youtubers🎉
Thanks for sticking around, I am planning to make another kurgzegsagt YTP soon enough
15 years from now TES V will be the ultimate mundus exploration simulator....
also at 10:08 THATS JYGALAG.
wait so sithis and padomay are different
The scarab may be connected to CHIM or Sharmat.
13:23 Is that a joke? It says “Targeting”
No... but the fact that I thought it was 2 different words sure is a joke
hey now, aint no way I'm turning down more planes of oblivion content 👀
I feel the apotheosis coming inside of me
Two things I have to say:
First, that The Elder Scrolls mythology is extremely confusing, convoluted, and has lots of contradictions. One sich strange thing is the fact that identity apparently means nothing in TES.
Anu and Padomay birth their own souls, and thus Anui-El and Sithis are born. But wait, isn't the soul supposed to be what gives someone their identity? Did they give birth to themselves? And then somehow their souls became something other than themselves?
They hint at the fact that their souls (Anui-El and Sithis) are actually really just themselves. So now there's two of themselves. And then Anui-El births her own soul and thus Auriel/Akatosh is born. Which are actually just themselves, again.
And then, some say Sithis birthed his own soul from which Lorkhan was born, but this isn't confirmed, because again, conflicting accounts and confusing lore.
But if we assume this to be correct, then Lorkhan is actually just Sithis, and therefore is just Padomay. And Auriel/Akatosh is just Anui-El and therefor just Anu.
But wait there's more, cause the leading hypothesis right now is that all the Shezarrines shared the same soul, therefore are actually just the same person reborn. And all the Dragonborns share the same soul and are the same person too, which is why the last Dragonborn (the player character in Skyrim) constantly gets confused with other people such as Hjalti (Talos), Ysmir, and so on.
But wait, there's more, cause apparently the shezarrines are reincarnations of Shezarr and therefore Lorkhan. And the Dragonborn is implied to be a reincarnation of/the soul of Akatosh/Auriel because guess what? When you go to Akatosh's realm, Sovngarde, it turns out Akatosh is coincidentally not there at the moment. Oh wow. Couldn't it be that Dragonborn is Akatosh? Yes, yes he is.
Therefore, all in all, the Shezarrines are acrually the soul of Lorkhan (who is kinda dead but kinda still hangs around and can be called upon), who is actually the soul of Sithis (but Sithis still exists, so how can Lorkhan possibly be Sithis' soul?!) who is actually Padomay's soul, and the Dragonborns including the main character of skyrim is just the soul of Akatosh/Auriel therefore Anui-El therefore Anu.
Only, I guess, with their memories of their previous identities locked.
So yeah, in short, you mentioned Wulfharth and said hoe could Kyne possibly be talking to both Wulfharth and the main character of Skyrim? Well, it's cause they're the same person. Same soul, different body.
And the second thing I wanna say is I really don't like the story being based on the assumption that the Annotated Annuad is true, because it's just a book, written by a guy, and both contradicts other known facts (for instance says the Daedra are all only of Padomaic blood and the Aedra are a mix of both, but Mara was once an Aedra, and therefore not pure Padomaic blood), and in general contradicts lots of other bits of lore like the Monomyth. Both are not reliable in that both are likely to contain some truth and some errors. So, making the story as if one of them is completely true seems like a mistake to me.
Also, can you imagine the Dragonborn (the soul of Akatosh) absorbing the power of Lorkhan?
@@damaris.crayon oh god thank you!!! How did I make that mistake? I think I read too much TES cosmology that day and got completely confused
Can I point out one statement you made? You said Sovngarde is the realm of Akatosh and he is not there. But is it the realm of Shor Nordic version of Lorkhan? Aludin the first child of Akatosh of all the places went to Sovangrade to consume the souls and possibility of destroying that place. Maybe because Aludin knows his dad Akatosh had a history with Lorkhan was doing him a favour?
@@TheOmaraddy yes. Yes you are 100000% correct. I realized my mistake a few days after I wrote that, and it took me into a whole other rabbit whole of "what if the dragonborn somehow is a mix of both Akatosh and Lorkhan?"
Obviously we can't base our assumption that the dragonborn isn't just Akatosh but also Lorkhan because Shor wasn't there that one time he went visit. It's not enough evidence. But it's food for thought.
My brain was too smooth and tired when I drove into that rabbit hole so I gave up researching. But I might give it another try some day.
@@norielgames4765 No worries. I did enjoy your read and I did study too about the lore of Elder Scrolls but it's too much to consume and too wild XD. I find Dark Souls lore easier to understand and there isn't much lore of it but requires digging history from interacting with NPC or reading item descriptions. The Last DB could be mix of both he does get attention from Daedras too or maybe just Skyrim Daedra quest mechanics we get alot Daedric artifact but none from any Adera.
@@TheOmaraddy that's an interesting point. Why do we get help from daedras but none from aedras? Also, yeah, TES is the wildest lore I've ever read and it hurts my brain sometimes
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This mod sounds like a Dark Souls story. Again. I thought vigilant already did this?
Vicn quadrilogy and Apotheosis cover a lot of the same themes since both are C0DA inspired projects. Apotheosis sounds more like a Dark Souls/Elden Ring plot, while, at least, Vigilant (since Dac0da, Glenmoril and Unslaad are incomplete) sounds more like a Kojima plot in a dark grit fantasy context with influences from other Japanese titles.
Is this supposed to end with a Sithis fight?
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These guys read to much Berserk lol, (not saying that is a bad thing)