The Amazing Spider Man 2 - Every Spider-Man Movie Reviewed & Ranked
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Nicholas Chug First time I have downvoted a Kinda Funny video. They have had some strange rankings of movies between MCU and Xmen in review. None of them have been this bad though. Putting the worst Spiderman movie in the number one spot cannot be forgiven.
The whole ranking basically went like this.
Greg - "I think spider-man 2 should clearly be number one."
Everyone else - "We missed the part where that's our problem."
Hahahaha you got me
yonatan tesfaye hahahahaha
First time I have downvoted a Kinda Funny video. They have had some strange rankings of movies between MCU and Xmen in review. None of them have been this bad though. Putting the worst Spiderman movie in the number one spot cannot be forgiven.
Bransen Cain I think I’ll make it through.
Andy too.
This film would be at the very bottom of the list for me, it’s one of the worst blockbusters in recent years. The script is abysmal, the structure of the story is completely broken, every character is hilariously underwritten with hollow motivations, it’s completely tone-deaf and all over the place, the music is honestly embarrassing, its far too long, it’s insultingly pandering with its references to famous comic stories for cheap points, it’s cynical and cocky with how it tries to ape the MCU by hastily building up a universe and it doesn’t give the audience any credit whatsoever.
Say what you want about the Raimi films but at least they’re tonally consistent with their corniness and wonderful style of direction and presentation, they’re packed full of life and energy even though they’re dumb as hell.
Love the show though, my favourite podcast at the moment! Can’t wait for it every week.
Love your stuff!
I Hate Everything definitely agree with all of this. Obviously they see the Rami movies as cheesy and outdated but they don’t really give those movie any points for direction and the purposeful cheese. Also when are you and KF gonna collab?
lol even IHE shows up to comment on how wrong they are
I Hate Everything you’re trash delete your channel and Fuck you
I can't believe a majority of you guys put Amazing Spiderman 2 as number one. That was the exact opposite of what I was expecting. That movie was so incoherent.
Sally Field described this movie as 20 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag. She did it because her friend who was producer on the first one was dying of cancer and wanted to do her favour
Fucking hated Sally field in these movies
Amazing Spider-Man 2 as number one? Your credibility just snapped harder than Gwen Stacy's neck.
James Leggett Oh snap 😳
James Leggett Are they trolling us?!?!?
James Leggett ooo got em
Don't forget that most of these guys think that Fast and Furious movies are good, they've never had credibility.
TOO SOON
"I think Venom will rank pretty highly just because it's a more contemporary film" Therein lies the problem with this Spidey review series lol
My thought exactly! Modern does not mean better!
They're being sarcastic
And stylized doesn’t mean good. Yeah, I get that Raimi’s style meant that the movies were purposefully campy. But that doesn’t make them good, either.
Jonathan Juan you are right. the "style" of a movie is not a value judgment of quality. its a classiciation of genre really.
for conversation purposes we can classify Raimi style as "campy" or "melodrama" ie extravagant, theatrical piece with exaggerated characters.
like the Schumacher Batman forever/batman and robin movies. They are of the same style, aesthetic, genre, what have you.
But when we speak of quality. good vs bad. Batman and robin would be an example of a poor execution, while Spiderman-2 considered excellent most would agree.
They're acting like the Sam Raimi trilogy was made in the 60s.
So this movie has no character development and bad villians but o they swinging and fights are good, lets make it number one?
Im with all the other commenters, it seems very strange way of viewing spiderman films.
Fa1con87 I think the point is that all the films apart from Homecoming suck, they suck for different reasons sure, but they still suck, so the one with the best action won. They all still suck though.
Marc Touchdown homecoming? that overrated movie?
Apparently they love when a movie takes its melodrama seriously, mixed with hamfisted flashy action scenes that make no sense
Kinda Funny Logic
Tobey Maguire's Peter has a huge crush on Mary Jane and asks for a photo for the school paper in spider-man 1 so he's a creep.
Andrew Garfield's Peter follows Gwen everyday without her knowledge, but he's a superhero so it's justified.
THANK YOU. - Greg
Yeah, but Garfield is a loveable guy. Maguire looks like an actual creep.
Cihan Gürbeden yeah, a loveable guy who said "screw you" to a dead man whose one wish was for him to stay away from his daughter because a broken promise is the best kind.
yonatan tesfaye I agree, that was fucked up. But the love was just too strong here (and to be fair, Peter payed the price).
Didnt greg comment on this....so yeah
Alright ... Let's just move onto the next In-Review before my brain explodes
Spada - First time I have downvoted a Kinda Funny video. They have had some strange rankings of movies between MCU and Xmen in review. None of them have been this bad though. Putting the worst Spiderman movie in the number one spot cannot be forgiven.
@@PeterAtkinson MCU ranking was the most predicable, logical ranking by far. But I agree, this one and X-Men made me lose my mind. Andy the only one talking sense at the end. And Greg.
I haven't disagreed more with you guys ever before.Spider-Man 2 is MILES better than the Amazing movies in my opinion.
THANK YOU. - Greg
NO Greg THANK YOU for being the voice of reason
@@kindafunny please redo the list or just stop this shit show and move onto another Series review.
Kinda Funny Bless you, Greg
I know everyone has there opinions.. But this list is disgraceful. It really feels like you guys didn't even watch the movies (Greg excluded) or you were doing something else while they were on. And the only reason they are ranked so high is because they are "newer" seriously what's the point of these "in reviews" if your opinions or always going to be the newer movies are better cause there newer? I know we won't always agree on stuff (black panther in review) and that's fine. But the amazing spiderman 2 is a literal dumpster fire.
Did... did you guys just collectively vote on the conclusion that the Amazing Spiderman 2 is not only better than Spiderman 1, but is the BEST Sony Spiderman film?
Yeah... no.
You can see who's the biggest Spider-Man fan here. The only one who thinks the Maguire films are way above the Garfield films. Stay strong Greg, don't let these normies consume you.
Fuck off, I love the Garfield films and Spider-Man is my life. Sorry for being a dick, I'm just tired of this and the TASM1s' review comment section, which both are just angry fans yelling at people for their own opinions.
Wow this is a terrible ranking and review. It's unfair how they can forgive things in the TASM movies but go over the top with nitpicking the Raimi ones. Like what's going on, why don't the two franchises get the same treatment. If you're gonna nitpick one without any forgiveness for the time it was made in do the same for TASM, but if you can be forgiving to TASM why not to the Raimi trilogy.
Tarun Sharma First time I have downvoted a Kinda Funny video. They have had some strange rankings of movies between MCU and Xmen in review. None of them have been this bad though. Putting the worst Spiderman movie in the number one spot cannot be forgiven.
What.... WHAT!!!!....THEY PUT THIS AS THE #1 SPIDER-MAN MOVIE!?!?!?!?!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!
Yeah I am baffled how they could have put it number 1. Greg was the only smart one saying that Spider-man 2 should of been top.
Maybe it’s their hate of Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man that puts the Raimi trilogy so low in their minds.
This Spider-Man in review series has been absolute insanity. My kinda funny “In Review” list
1. MCU in review
2. X-Men in Review
3. Random reviews
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11. Spider-Man in review
MtnRangeLivingRoom lol
I love how they’re completely nitpicking the Raimi movies, being unforgiving of every detail, but then they’re super forgiving of everything in TASM 1&2. If you’re going over the top with nitpicking and tearing movies apart, judge the movies on that same perspective. The way they’re judging each series is so biased.
Or it's just their opinion doesn't fall in line with yours? I used to love Rami trilogy but watching it recently, it really doesn't hold up. Nothing wrong with that, just how it goes sometimes.
@@preyingocelotgames4397 after rewatching these movies, the raimi 1 and 2 are just as good as they always have been. They haven't changed.
The effects actually hold up and are more convincing than what you see currently in deadpool 2, rampage, jurassic world fallen kingdom etc.
Maybe it's your taste that has changed and no longer appreciates Raimi's melodramatic style.
@@bipolarcow I appreciate it for sure just don't think it holds up well. I guess this is another example of different opinions.
@@bipolarcow nothing wrong with it though
Preying Ocelot Tim wished Tobey was injured more in the Spider-Man 2 review. It has nothing to do with difference of opinion.
the amazing spider-man films are 1&2. what has this world come to
ThatGuyThatGames24 even Greg admits it’s bad and he likes the Toby movies the most out of the group lol
I’m sorry. But this is wack. I understand it’s opinionated but you are out of your mind if you guys actually think this movie is better than any of the other Spider-Man movies ESPECIALLY freaking Spider-Man 2.
1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man
3. Spider-Man 3
4. The Amazing Spider-Man
5. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Note: I don’t think Spider-Man 3 is ‘better’ than the first Amazing Spider-Man but it’s so much more enjoyable in my honest opinion.
This is the list. Anyone who actually argues Webb's films above Raimi's has no clue what Spider-Man is about.
@@GianlucaSorrentinoVideos How can you properly know what he's about when there are so many incarnations?
On point
The Devil I guess you're right. The only plausable explanation for this is that this is a Spider-Man from an alternate universe that is a shitty character with shitty backstory and shitty development overall
The Devil that’s almost exactly why the Amazing movies are bad though. There’s so many incarnations of Spider-Man yet none are anything like this movie portrays.
This series of reviews is depressing. The more bland the film the higher they rate it. The Rami movies are pure CINEMA. They have dynamic camera work, great music and sound, memorable action sequences and interesting production design and they value none of it. They said Homecoming is WAY better than any of these. That movie is fine, but it's not very memorable and has no real interesting point of view or style. I know that these guys are not the only ones who feel this way. It's really depressing. Exciting and inventive filmmakers are just not seen as an asset.
Agreed.
Raimi had distinct artistic personality.
The others feel like they come off of an assembly line
I agree there is more care for those movies, but the characters and the way they behave is just awful
sean galvin exactly Spider-Man homecoming is just so boring to me
@@PapoOv no more awful than characters in any star wars, xmen, superman or batman movies.
Spider-Man 1 and 2 everything felt sincere and genuine I can't agree with describing them as awful.
THANK YOU I’m glad someone said it. Raimi’s direction is so much stronger than any of the other movies, even homecoming. It pulls you in, even when the character writing isn’t the strongest. And I do think it’s pretty weak at times. But even rewatching Spider-Man 3, the filmmaking skill that’s on display makes it way more pleasing to watch than even Homecoming. Homecoming is great but it still has a slightly generic feel to it, for me. So glad someone else appreciates Raimi’s filmmaking!
Don't call yourself a spider-man fan after this. You've let everyone down
😂😂 snowflake
I need to rewatch this cause I honestly thought it was one of the worst films I've seen. Worse than Spider-Man 3. I remember Electro more or less being Arnold Schwarzneggers Mr Freeze. Hated Harry too.
The only thing I enjoyed was Pete and Gwen's relationship and her dying.
Gonna watch this over the weekend but I ain't looking forward to it.
Say what you will about the Raimi films, but the TASM series just weren’t good films. The pacing was horrendous, too many plot lines introduced for no reason, and to top it off they weren’t even well payed off. The Raimi films may of been campy and down right silly at times, but at least they knew what they were, simple superhero movies. Spider-Man 2 is faaaaaaaaar superior to any of the TASM films. Still think you guys are dope, just down right befuddled by your choice lol
Yall are insane. Amazing Spiderman 2 is way worse than the first one. I'd put amazing spiderman 2 last, or maybe spiderman 3... but it is garbage. It has the same problems as spiderman 3. Spiderman 2 should easily be top.
I don't think they're insane. I think they are just not you therefore have different opinions.
It feels kinda weird that you guys had basically nothing good to say about this but it was still number one. I'm with Greg on this one. Also, Hans Zimmer did do the score, but Pharrell Williams collaborated with him on it. He's usually the one who is blamed for the terrible music. A Charlotte's Web in Review would also be very good, it could be two weeks since I think they made a live action version. Do it, I'm sure the views would be great.
Also the part when the web turns into a hand made me actually laugh out loud in the theater, it's so dumb
Call me a Rami defender if you want but this ranking is just bad it's a incoherent jumble of bad decisions, bad writing and bad direction and if they used the mcu ranking rules then it would be a different list completely due to the Rami movies having a coherent movie structure and plot
Icepick614 and dance scenes, don’t forget the dance scenes.
@@marctouchdown1619 I'll take hilarious dance scenes over dumb music montages
This movie is almost unwatchable for me. I am really shocked it got ranked so high and would have put it at number 4. I really liked the first one, but man this one was not good.
(IMO) the plot recap is essential to the In Review series.
Respect their opinion. This is the worst In Review Series they have done so far. Tim wishing Tobey was injured more in the Spider-Man 2 review. Not backing up their points on why the hate the Raimi films. Sure you can complain about Nostalgia Goggles but what about them wearing Homecoming goggles or Contemporary goggles? Why does Kevin wear sunglasses? He looks like a HS bully any time he bashes Tobey lol
TheBigBlueKnight tobey wasn't a very good spider-man, even back then that was the common consensus
Isaac11 Mostly because he was more of the 60's Spidey which was more boy scouty.
Tobey was just a terrible actor in those movies. He really has a dumb face.
@@TheBigBlueKnight Tom is more of a boy scout. Not hating on Tobey I promise you
I just rewatched Spider-Man 3 and thought Tobey did a great job. I’ve always liked him as Peter.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 is Schumacher level trash.
This movie always comes to mind when someone discusses the worst movies we've watched. The Electro "they hate me, they lied to me" theme song was what made me finally check out of the movie. Harry was so terrible and the dialogue was worse. Character motivations and personalities were all over the place. The CGI looked like CGI during the fights. I didn't even enjoy the Electro power plant scene. The only reason this movie isn't a 5% on RT is because it has decades of Spider-Man stories to pull from and does with just enough competency to have a slightly coherent plot in the background and Garfield and Stone were actually dating at the time. Their chemistry was off the charts, but how is that enough to forgive almost all of the rest of the movie? It's not. Worse than SM3 by a long shot and it's my least favorite. They turned this into a bad live action cartoon. All of the zany musical numbers and song choices are just the extra rotten cherry on top.
It really surprises me how much people love the Raimi trilogy. Spider-Man has been my favorite character my entire life and I grew up loving those movies, but really none of these movies are great and I would definitely say Garfield is a better Spider-Man. Idk maybe it’s just me but even as a kid I didn’t like Toby as Spider-Man.
But that version of Peter Parker isn't him at all
#GregIsRight
Amazing Spider-Man can't be number 1.
Wow people are taking these rankings so seriously. Relax everyone! These reviews are hilarious and enjoyable. Do I agree with the rankings? Of course not! Do they matter? Nope! Is it entertaining? Absolutely.
Well said
Holy shit, this list is a fucking disgrace
Worst. List. Ever.
Its. their. opinion.
Doesn't. Have. To. Be. The. Same. As. Yours. And. Mine.
Preying Ocelot relax bud
And in Brett's opinion it's the worst list ever.
@@preyingocelotgames4397 you're such an annoying asshole. It's his opinion that this list is trash. Funny how that can be turned right back around at you
I can't wait for the next In Review when they rank "Batman and Robin" above "The Dark Knight."
I'm so glad this In Review series is almost over. I don't understand how you thought Spider-Man 3 was as bad as it was but put TASM2 as #1. At least we got Charlotte's Web
Raimi trilogy: Super cheesy but has a lovable, comic book charm.
Webb duology: trying to be serious and set up a universe, but writing is god awful and ultimately fails.
i had to go to my car during the charlottes web part at work. holy shit. i can’t stop laughing
I only saw the movie once in theaters. I remember it being a very entertaining mess that I enjoyed experiencing, but also don’t want to watch again
Anybody really wanna see them do rhe Rockys/creed in review after seeing Creed 2 trailer?
EXACTLY! This the only Spidey movie that has never called for me to watch it again. I don’t even have the DVD. It’s the most forgettable storyline
Spider 3 being at number 6 is the funniest fact of life.
Man, I forgot how awful the music beats in this movie were...
When I hear the Electro theme I imagine Pharrell Williams hunchbacked in recording booth going "he lied me" over and over again.
Nick. I need you to give us a mini review of The Departed, so we can get to the bottom of your hatred for that classic little ditty.
And my “need” I mean “please sir” and by “hatred” I meant “with love, your friend in Christ xoxo...”
Spiderman 2
TASM
Spiderman
TASM2
Spiderman 3
I don't know why they have been trying to get out of doing the plot lately. That's the show, you gotta do it.
Yea, it's my favourite part
Cos they secretly know both Amazing Spider-Man movies are awful. Yet they have the audacity to rank both above Spider-Man 1 & 2 because they have some agenda against Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi.
@@agentahmed7350 they did it with Logan as well and kinda with Deadpool 2 as well. Also the og Spiderman movies have always been overated.
I LOVE that you guys are completely honest with these reviews and aren't afraid to give your true opinions, even though the comments are gonna say that YOUR opinions are somehow "wrong".
I've only recently started watching these Podcasts and I really enjoy them for the most part but I'm sorry, the guy in the middle is pretty annoying and rarely says anything worthwhile. He's always right in the middle and I don't like looking at his sunglasses.
They're just trolling us now aren't they?
This movie always comes to mind when someone discusses the worst movies I've watched. The Electro "they hate me, they lied to me" theme song was what made me finally check out of the movie. Harry was so terrible and the dialogue was even worse. Character motivations and personalities were all over the place. The CGI looked like CGI during the fights. I didn't even enjoy the Electro power plant scene. The only reason this movie isn't a 5% on RT is because it has decades of Spider-Man stories to pull from and does with just enough competency to have a slightly coherent plot in the background and Garfield and Stone were actually dating at the time. Their chemistry was off the charts, but how is that enough to forgive almost all of the rest of the movie? It's not. Worse than SM3 by a long shot and it's my least favorite. They turned this into a bad live action cartoon. All of the zany musical numbers and song choices are just the extra rotten cherry on top. When you wonder how bad it was, just remember that Sony finally caved and let Marvel have at it with their IP they've owned for over a decade. It would've died otherwise.
Spiderman 2 has only 2 characters and one of them is played by Tobey Macguire so it actually subtracts point
This movie honestly wasn’t that bad, I’m glad to see they agree. The OG 1&2 weren’t that bad either, but I enjoyed Amazing 1&2 a tad more. 2 handles the Sony plot meddling a lot more gracefully than OG3 ever did.
1. Spider-Man 2 (74%)
2. Spider-Man: Homecoming (73%)
3. Spider-Man (69%)
4. Spider-Man 3 (62%)
5. The Amazing Spider-Man (51%)
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (44%)
What are the percentages?
What are the percentages meant to convey?
@@JoniHD99 I rank all the movies I watch and grade them on various things like performances, composition/cinematography, writing, etc. Values are dependent on how any aspect of the film impedes/bolsters others in conveying *something* . How and what that thing is is not constant across each work. A high score basically means that a piece of work is unified, clear and robust - a low score means the opposite. These Spiderman movies are fairly mediocre imo. 2 and Homecoming, I consider to be good movies - not great, and Amazing 2 is really the only one I consider to be bad.
Phantom Menace sits at the bottom of my list at the moment and The Master at the top (out of the 167 movies that I've watched this year), if that sheds any light on my sensibilities.
Rotten Tomatoes?
I didn’t think your rankings could get any worse after last week. I was wrong.
The Amazing Spider Man 2 is the worst Spider man movie and Thor is better than The Incredible Hulk! Still love these reviews though.
"Pinch the nose, close the mouth"
I think we can all agree Nick as Spider-Man would be a terrifying reality
Preach KF, preach. All of these movies are just ok to bad
Completely disagree with the rankings, but it's your guys' opinion so whatever. For the amount of shit you guys talked about AMS2, I'm shocked you put it at number one.
For me, my list is:
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man
Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3
Amazing Spider-Man 2
This list personally offends me.
OH MY GOD! What a dream moment. For years, I have been kicked and pushed in the mud for my opinion of Amazing Spider-Man 2 and now here is video proof that I have in fact been correct all these years. Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the best Spider-Man! WOOO lol.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 In Review: Hard Truths
Yeah that Kevin Feige email is totally fake this was debunked years ago. Kevin basically nonchalantly said his name is attached to a lot of films as it’s a requirement from license agreements it doesn’t mean he’s actually involved in the productions unless he’s asked to.
ASM 2 is far and away the worst Spider-Man movie, this show/list is a fucking joke.
Spider-Man 2 should be number one.
Not going to lie, it’s getting harder to watch these in review videos. In what universe is a movie that temporarily killed a franchise (Asm2) better than a benchmark in superhero cinema? (Spider-Man 2) I guess by the rankings and Nick’s comment at the end predicting Venom will rank high, the KF crew value newer over better.
in this universe bruh 😂 opinions
Joe Momma Opinions are fine. It’s just lately I find that their reasons for what makes a good film not story and character, but what looks cool. Plus they seemed to have an inherent bias towards Toby McGuire.
@@HeyItsEddy but you can hear why they think the Raimi characters are not good. They’re extremely thin. Goblin is just evil for evils sake. Tobey Maguire is boring. Kristen is a terrible, damsel in distress throughout all movies. The Harry and Peter relationship is poorly written, and so on
Every thursday feels a little like christmas morning. Can't wait for next week, unless there's no new season, then I'll have withdrawal issues and it'll be all your fault.
It's one thing that they rated the single worst Spider-Man movie ever made as number one--that's insanity, but it's also (unfortunately) subjective.
It's another thing that everything they said about the film contradicted their final conclusions. There's no rhyme or reason to this conversation at all.
Garfield is still better than Maguire.
1. SPIDER-MAN
2. SPIDER-MAN 2 (Spider-Man 1 and 2 are interchangeable)
3. SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
4. SPIDER-MAN 3
5. THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
6. THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2
Holy fucking shit. I get that the Raimi trilogy might not hold up all that well but to say that the amazing spiderman 2 is BETTER that the first two is fucking ridiculous.
I love seeing how angry people get in the comments section. Makes me happy.
Just because the Gwen Death scene was good doesn't make it the best Spiderman movie.
I'm so glad this is (almost) over. Not because I disagree with the ranking (I don't) but because all 5 of these movies are "watchable" AT BEST. Makes me appreciate Homecoming even more.
homecoming is overrated
Spider man 3 was a way worse movie, but ASM2 was just a jumbled mess.
I used to really want a HP in review, but after seeing them rank spiderman 2 as number 3 and labelling it a 'shitty movie' means that they cant be trusted
Not agreeing = not trustable
What the fuck is this ranking hahahaha
Bare with me, this is long, but It's literally the review I wrote when this movie first came out.
I think it holds up.
I think I pretty much nailed it.
"The problems with The Amazing Spider-Man 2 began with The Amazing Spider-Man 1.
I'll skip over the problems with that movie that don't immediatly impact TASM2, but first I'm gonna go into where this all went wrong because of the first movie.
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OSCORP
Okay.
First off, this series kicked off with a fundamental stupid concept - Oscorp is to blame for EVERYTHING.
Let's dive into that for a bit.
They've instantly painted themselves into a stupid little corner that makes no sense.
Oscorp has become nothing but a supervillain factory.
They've devalued EVERY villain Spider-Man has by robbing them of their backstory and going "Oscorp did it".
Also, what the hell type of excuse is there for this nonsense? People are going to look at Oscorp and go "yea, that place is a supervillain factory. It should probably be shut down."
This place requires actual scientists to work on projects and invent stuff that serves no apparent purpose beyond supervillainy.
It's one thing to go "lolwoops, accidentally got turned into a Lizard" once, and maybe "we were building this glider/armor thing for the military and it was stolen by a crazy person", but when it's EVERYTHING the company does....there are scientists and staff who are going to go "Heeeey...I designed that for Oscorp..." when they see it rampaging on the news. And scientists who are going to go "And WHY exactly do you want me to build a winged flying suit that steals peoples' life force? That sounds supervillainous..." "WHY do you want me to build a huge ridiculous and impractical Rhino shaped power armor/mech?"
It's not like Norman Osborn is building and developing all this stuff personally.
Beyond the fact that people are going to notice that shit, they've removed the relevance of Empire State University from Spider-Man's universe, despite that Peter just graduated, and that's where he should be headed after TASM2....right?
But no, he never took a class field trip there and got his spider powers there.
And no, Doctor Connors isn't a professor there.
It eliminates Peter's association with all his various ESU classmates and associates (all the people who give Peter Parker a life outside of being Spider-Man)....like Felicia Hardy, Debra Whitman, Harry Osborn, Flash Thompson, Mary Jane Watson, Eddie Brock (in the Ultimate version), etc etc.
(seriously, did they just eliminate all reason for Flash Thompson to be in these movies? Given who Flash is nowadays(Agent Venom), that seems SUPER stupid)
They've eliminated all pretense for Peter to organically know almost all of his major supporting characters.
And what, now all these people are going to work for Oscorp? (Seriously, they made Felicia Hardy - the Black Cat - an Oscorp secretary. WHAT THE HELL?? She's fallen a looooong way from being both an heiress AND having amassed a fortune in stolen goods...)
They killed off Gwen, Peter's only pretense for hanging around Oscorp.
Harry knows he's Spider-Man, and he knows Harry is the Goblin, so I sure as hell don't think Peter is going to become their coworker now...
Also, they eliminated the unique backstories of all those villains - you know, those things which one might build entire movies around.
- They eliminated Doctor Connor's family and the fact that he was a victim of the Lizard too. Now he's just a "mad scientist" working for Oscorp.
- The Vulture is apparently going to just be an evil version of the Falcon who was given a flight suit by Oscorp, rather than a aging/dying Adrian Toomes who was cheated and had his business destroyed by a scheming business partner (coulda been Oscorp) and now uses his wing suit to get revenge and steal the youth/health from people and avoid death.
- Kraven the Hunter will now be some guy hired by Osborn to hunt Spider-Man, I guess? Nope, no longer Sergei Kravinoff, a guy obsessed with trying to hunt the world's most dangerous prey(Spider-Man).
- Mysterio will now be a guy with an illusion suit given to him by Oscorp, instead of Quentin Beck - vengeful former magician/stuntman/special effects master who was disgraced by Spider-Man while he was saving the day.
- etc
For all his cool powers, Spider-Man is supposed to be just one guy in a huge crazy world where he can't predict if/when/where a new threat might arise.
Here....oh, yea. Oscorp.
Okay. I think that probably covers THAT fundamentally stupid part of this whole series.
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DESTINY AND THE DISAPPEARING PARENTS
On to another fundamentally stupid thing!
Peter's father created the radioactive spider! And it could only work on Peter! Blah blah blah! Destiny! Blah!
The ENTIRE POINT of Spider-Man is that he's an accidental everyman superhero.
Where other heroes are geniuses who invented their powers (Iron Man), invented the accident that granted their power(Hulk), went out of their way to learn their powers(Batman), was trained by a master to use their powers(Daredevil), was born with their powers (X-Men, Thor), auditioned to get their powers (Captain America), an agent of some force that equips them with their powers and pays them (Hawkeye and Black Widow)...Spider-Man is the one who just kinda accidentally stumbled into it.
He's the "IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU TOO!" fantasy.
He's not ultra rich.
He's not a god.
He's not a predestined champion because some convoluted string of events set him up to be.
He's just some teen who randomly got powers and now has to figure out how to handle them, and learn what he feels he NEEDS to do with them.
The way they handled Uncle Ben in the first movie was idiotic. They robbed Peter of starting out using his powers selfishly only to have Uncle Ben die and impart the "With great power comes great responsibility" belief that is the driving force behind why he must always use his powers to be a hero.
They've rendered Spider-Man down to "It was destiny".
"A wizard did it." -level hand-waving away of a need to create a plot.
"God did it."-level blandness.
The entire subplot about Peter's parents should've been totally cut from these movies.
This isn't even as cool as their mysterious fates in the comics (they were pre-SHIELD Agents who were killed in the crash of a plane that was sabotaged by one of the Red Skull's assassins).
QUESTION:
How did Peter's dad get a high tech....subway car science lab in the NYC subway system?
Did he build it?
If Oscorp built, why didn't Norman raid it for research?
Why build it in a subway car at all? Couldn't it just be a more useful lab format? Did it need to roll? Did it need windows?
Why would Richard Parker leave his "confession video" in a SECRET lab? Confessions don't really make sense as something to hide in a secret place.
Okay.
Done with that.
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GWEN STACY
So, next one.
Gwen Stacy MUST die. That's obvious.
But it shouldn't have been in this movie. There was setup that needed to happen for that to work properly.
The reason Gwen Stacy's death is SO devastating, and SO huge isn't just because she died. It's VERY specifically the circumstances in HOW she died.
Spider-Man and the Green Goblin have a long history of battling each other.
The Goblin is constantly trying to destroy him or enact some scheme and Spider-Man is constantly foiling his plans.
They are long-time bitter enemies with a history.
The Goblin is the Joker to Spider-Man's Batman.
When the Goblin throws Gwen from the bridge and she dies it's a "OH SHIT, HE WENT TOO FAR THIS TIME" moment.
But not ONLY that.
The Goblin TORMENTS him about it, because HE didn't kill Gwen - Spider-Man did.
The webline that Spider-Man tries to use to saves her snaps taught and breaks her neck before she ever hits the water below.
The Goblin hangs this over Spider-Man's head and haunts him with guilt and drives him on an enraged quest for revenge.
A quest for revenge that sees the Goblin accidentally impale himself with his own glider.
Harry Osborn (who Peter meets in college) witnesses the battle and blames Spider-Man for murdering his father.
For TASM2 to have worked the way it was set up, Harry Osborn needed to have been in TASM1 and established and SHOWN early on as Peter's best friend. But he wasn't in it. For Gwen's death to have any of that impact (most hated foe finally going too far) between Spider-Man and the Goblin, Harry killing her would've had to have the weight of a true friend betraying Peter in the absolutely worst way possible.
The way it was....it was only slightly worse than if a random guy like Electro had killed her.
That she died in the clocktower instead of the bridge is not irrelevant either. In the clock tower she was dead. Spider-Man just couldn't reach her in time.
On the bridge it was snapping to a stop on his webline that killed her, and the water below creates the lingering "what if?" of her hitting the water instead. Would she have survived?
It lends power to the Goblin's torment that SPIDER-MAN killed Gwen Stacy, not him.
Gwen Stacy's death is probably the most horrible major death in comics.
In this movie it's kinda just another plot point.
ALSO, they went REAL obvious that Gwen was going to die. Like holy crap. If you know anything about Spider-Man's comicbook history it was just "oh, yea, she's toast" from the moment she begins that graduation speech.
The way they hammered you with the "life is special" "everyone will die" speech and the "oh no, she might leave!" "oh no, they broke up!" "will they get back together?".....she was toast.
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some people who DON'T know about Spider-Man picked up on the heavy-handed "SHE'S GONNA DIE!!!" foreshadowing.
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GREEN GOBLIN
The Goblin being Harry Osborn instead of Norman Osborn eliminates Harry taking over his father's empire and seeking revenge for his father's death, and it eliminates Harry as a supporting character and Peter's best friend just in general for the future.
That's kinda dumb, but whatever, I guess.
If they had wanted to eliminate the second Goblin from existence, why not just....I dunno....NOT introduce Harry?
Why have everything based out of Oscorp if not to have Norman Osborn build his criminal empire with it, and become the Goblin to lead it.
The way TASM2 handles it is a weird series of mismatched plots that sort of stumble over each other.
Harry Osborn comes out of nowhere.
Where has Harry been?
Well, his dad shipped him off to boarding school at the age of 10 because he was some kind of massive disappointment…at the age of 10, apparently?
And Norman is also pissed that Harry left even though he was the one who sent him away?
So, in spite of Harry being a complete failure who is unworthy of his father's love, Norman gives him complete control of Oscorp.
Hooray for ALL of the shitty dad clichés at once.
Norman Osborn almost never shows up at all, despite being the nefarious villain behind Oscorp and all this nonsense going on.
He basically dies off-screen just in time for Harry's illness to set in at a dramatically younger, plot convenient age (like 30 years earlier than his father).
Harry happens to instantly go nuts and embrace the taking over and running of a criminal empire/conspiracy he JUST stumbled across.
Harry happens across the info suggesting Oscorps super spiders might be a cure (info about secret projects that is cleverly hidden in a folder labelled "SECRET PROJECTS", while the secret projects themselves are in the "SECRET PROJECTS" basement of Oscorp...)
Harry assumes Spider-Man must have gotten his powers from those spiders.
Harry happens to be friends with Spider-Man.
Harry has been in town for just a couple days and is randomly observant enough to notice the tiny footnote saying his old friend Peter took the picture of Spider-Man.
Harry assumes Peter MUST know Spider-Man because he can operate a camera (it's the ONLY logical explanation, right? Telephoto lens? What? Nonsense!).
Peter refuses to give Harry the blood because....he's afraid it might kill him? But he's dying....and the blood is the only cure?
He's afraid that giving Harry his blood might have side effects?
Are these side effects worse than death?
Oh, I know! It might turn him into a Green Goblin! Wait, yeah! That's totally what happens! Except...no...Norman Osborn had turned green and gobliny before he died too...so that's just the disease.
He can't have the cure that will save his life and keep him from turning into a monster because it might kill him or turn him into a monster!
Wait....
Harry and Peter could get this "cure" tested, right? If ONLY they had a scientific testing facility that specialized in genetic research... IF ONLY....
Too bad they're having this debate all the way up in the Oscorp tower SOOOO FAR AWAY from any scientific testing facility.
Too bad they don't have time to come up with a better thought out plan. Norman had like 30 years to work on this. Apparently Harry only has like 3 days, because....reasons?
[Seriously, what even IS this plot? And this is just like two or three scenes...]
So eventually Harry finds the deceptively named "SECRET PROJECTS" basement at Oscorp and gets some of the super spider venom! ...and immediately takes it to cure himself. That's logically sound, right? Norman had all of this stuff in the basement, and he never took it because....?????? Harry's conclusion is apparently "because it'll work and I should totally take it".
SIDEBAR
I'm not happy about this, but whatever. Given everything else they did, this is of relatively minor importance:
- Green Goblin's "costume" was stupid...again. ...and pretty much missing the point that the Green Goblin is INSANE and really thinks he IS the Green Goblin.
- Also, personalitywise, same deal. This movie he was just angry Harry Osborn. Green Goblin is a criminal mastermind, a genius, and a complete LUNATIC. He is the Marvel Universe's version of The Joker.
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ELECTRO
Electro's character was a rehashing of Edward Nygma from Batman Forever, except he gains lightning powers instead of...riddle powers.
Mind you, he gains his powers by being electrocuted and falling into an inexplicable tank of giant man-eating electric eels....on his birthday.
Instead of the striking, yet admittedly ridiculous classic green and yellow Electro costume, they made him look like homeless Doctor Manhattan.
I understand not going with the green and yellow suit. It'd look INSANE in a live action movie, but honestly, given the character being portrayed as a rehash of Edward Nygma, maybe more crazy green spandex would've worked out just fine... XD
For all of his unoriginality in backstory, Electro's powers were AWESOME.
Dude is a PURE walking spectacle of visual badassitude.
He was scary crazy powerful.
He could've been a fantastic villain in his own right....but no.
They went ahead and brought in the suddenly evil Harry to relegate Electro to the role of just being a henchman.
Because apparently Electro's not important after all.
QUESTION:
Why were they torturing the guy MADE OF ELECTRICITY, who FEEDS ON ELECTRICITY, by shocking him?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
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RHINO
Paul Giammati must've realized how stupid this movie was, because he went into full-blown crazy Russian pirate mode playing the Rhino.
They were wise not to try and do classic Rhino in live action. That guy barely makes sense IN a comic book, and he looks ridiculous just ALL of the time.
But the Rhino mech.
Man...there are several different ways that thing could've been cool.
They chose ALL of them.
Unfortunately those different ways DO NOT work when you smash them together.
- Power armor Rhino would've been awesome.
- Cyborg Rhino would've been awesome.
- Giant quadrupedal "tank" with an armored ram would've been cool.
- Giant mech would've been badass.
But an almost armor, almost mech...thing...that can drop to 4 legs where it is shaped like a literal robotic rhino, or stand up and be a RIDICULOUS, clumsy looking bipedal rhinoceros shaped contraption with a trap door for a tiny crazy Russian pirate's screaming head???
That's what they went with?
lolwut?
As a character, he should've just cameoed as the villain Spider-Man catches at the beginning, and maybe they break him out and SHOW him the Rhino "mech" during the part where Harry's all "find me 6 dudes, let's start with this one".
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TONE
The tone in this movie is just ALL over the place.
- Hilarious, action packed chase of crazy Russian pirate Paul Giamatti!
- Sad grim news that Peter's old friend's dad just died...
- Goofy, underappreciated, and ignored, the zany dysfunctional engineer Max Dillon is Spider-Man's weird obsessed fan!
- Pete and Gwen are in love!
- Electro hates the world and hates being forgotten!
- Harry and Peter are buddys!
- Peter had to break up with Gwen for the umpteenth time because he's haunted by her dad!
- Gwen is leaving to go to school in England!
- Harry needs Spider-Man's blood and Spider-Man won't give it too him, so he goes all ragey and then embraces the darkside!
- Peter and Gwen seem to still be doing pretty swell after all.
- BIG CRAZY SHOWDOWN WITH ELECTRO!
- GREEN GOBLIN KILLS GWEN!
- Sad funeral. Sad graveside montage.
- MORE WACKY RUSSIAN PIRATE! BUT THIS TIME WITH A BIG HILARIOUS ROBOT SUIT!
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THE ENDING
They utterly FAIL at this.
Look what happened in this movie!
GWEN STACY DIED!
It wasn't remotely close to what it should've been, but it was still well executed for what it was....and then they had the epic, and devastating funeral/graveside montage.
THAT is where this movie should've ended. Fading from one graveside vist to the next, and then to black. Roll credits. Cue sad Spider-Man music.
But no.
No no no.
They had to tack on another scene of Spider-Man battling our favorite crazy Russian pirate in a giant hilarious rhino-shaped robot armor.
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THE GOOD
Spider-Man himself was far and away the best Spider-Man has been in any of the movies.
Best webslinging in any of the movies. Seriously great stuff. Especially in that first chase trying to catch the Rhino and the stolen Uranium or whatever.
Best Spider-Man costume in any of the movies. Seriously just NAILED IT.
Everything about Peter and Gwen together/fighting/whatever was great.
Gwen is actually a better character in these movies than in the comics.
Peter and Harry hanging out again for the first time was a great scene.
For what it was, and what it had to work with in this mess of a film, Gwen's death was well done.
Gwen's funeral/graveside montage was perfect.
Battles with Electro were just AWESOME."
Good luck to anyone who reads all that.
imo
-Spider-Man
-Spider-Man 2
-Spider-Man 3
-TASM2
-TASM
Tim and Nick should be kicked out of kinda funny.
It's GOLD whenever Greg makes himself laugh, oh man 😂
It all comes down to your own ideology. I’m more willing to accept good plot while forgiving marred and stained with extreme lows over accepting inoffensive mediocre plot while forgiving tepid lows. The inoffensive safe nature of the first two OG films easily allows for rose tinted nostalgia goggles, as the movies, in broad strokes, simply do the trick. As terrible as all the crammed in elements are in Amazing 2, the goods are actually great. Which ever ideology you have isn’t even necessarily right. It’s all opinion. I just happen to share mine with the KF boys.
I'm just gonna pretend you all never reviewed the Spider-Man movies.
This was my first time watching Amazing Spider-Man 2 and it was an okay movie, not as bad as everyone seems to say about it, I liked it better than the first movie. My only problems with the movie are it’s a little too long and they try to establish way too many plot lines, especially for future movies that obviously aren’t happening now. Not a bad movie, just okay. I still prefer the Raimi Trilogy over either of the ASM movie.
My Updated Rankings: (based on personal enjoyment)
1. Spider-Man 3 (editors cut)
2. Spider-Man 2.1 (extended cut)
3. Spider-Man
4. Amazing Spider-Man 2
5. Amazing Spider-Man
Spiderman 3 isn't that the one with the jazz walking scene?
Putting The Amazing Spider-Man 2 on top of the list seriously has me at the point of thinking of ending my KF support entirely... I just saw a Facebook post with the final ranking... and I thought they were kidding... What the hell?
(seriously, I need to watch the entire video first to give an elongated statement (just came home from work just in time for KFMS... but I'm seriously shocked right now...)
Daily Arvel TV agreed
Stfu why do you care so much LOL
ALLR KaNine (psst, I just upped my Patreon to get the Shirtless Spider-Man stuff ^^... but that final vote had me... shook)
So I watched it now... and I'm #TeamGreg&Andy. Seriously, there needs to be some kind of veto vote installed at some point that should prevent such votes from the beginning ^^
One thing also didn't click with me during the debate... That supergroup theme for Electro by Pharell Williams, Hans Zimmer, Johnny Marr and Mike Einziger was an interesting approach to emphasize the inner emotions of Electro and I kinda liked it very much. That being said... my list would be....
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Last week during my flu of death I basically binge-watched in two days SM3, The Jack Ryan series, TASM and TASM2. Overall, I probably liked Jack Ryan the most...
The thing that dragged most about TASM that it has basically the same problems as Spider-Man 3. Too many villains, too many side-stories. And too much set-up. If you watch any of the behind the scene stuff, you can see how much they already have wanted to tease for the third movie. Doc Ock, Scorpio, Rhino, Green Goblin I, Vulture... they hinted at the return of Norman Osborne who had his head frozen after his death, maybe Felicity Jones becoming Black Cat, Shailene Woodley as MJ (when she was still doing the Divergent movies in parallel and wasn't sure to commit to two major franchises at the same time), The Stacys (i.e. Gwen & Daddy) returning (maybe as clones)... The Amazing Spider-Man 3 would have been a 5 hour movie with all the shit happening... or it would have been spreading out in all directions as Spin-off movies... just like Sony does it right now. It's also strange to see Sony's fixation with the Sinister Six. They were trying to push them in TASM2 and probably 3, they were making them... spoilers... a thing in Spider-Man for the PS4 and Far From Home looks like they are also introducing a reduced version of the Sinister Six with Vulture, Mysterio, Scorpio... and whoever they find on their trip to Europe. I'm seriously wondering what Venom will be next week... It may be Sony's return to worse times... or it could be start of their new Non-Spider-Man Spider-Verse...
Anyways, I'll still support KF and I even upped my Patreon to the Fan Mail tier... I wanna get some of this Shirtless Spider-Man thingies :-)
Jesus so dramatic over their movie opinions, u probs should end ur support if u cant handle this
The first half of this movie was great. The other half of this movie was a garbage dump of trailers.
That being said, my favourite thing from this movie is Alicia Keys from the music video for this movie.
I really enjoyed this movie watching it again and completely agree with the ranking. Keep the reviews coming!
Watching these now is amazing hahaha
Jesus, I stopped watching Xmen reviews because they're so perfunctory..and now, I checked their spiderman review - it's WORSE!
Number 1 on RaGuBaGu should be "anyone that thinks Spider-Man 2 shouldn't be Number 1"
Damn.
Apart from Greg, you guys have no credibility whatsoever now as movie buffs go. This is sincerely brutal.
From the moment I left the theater, I knew that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was not only the worst Spider-Man film I had ever watched, it was also one of the worst movies I had ever seen and I still stand by that to this day. Nobody will ever convince me that TASM2 is a better film than Spider-Man 2. It is objectively worse in almost every aspect and I am ready to defend that point until I'm no more.
I didn't know you guys before you started this ranking and honestly, I pity you. Your taste in movies is horrendously bad and your capability to analyse them is utterly embarrassing.
Sorry they didn't say what you wanted.
lol
“You have no credibility as movie buffs”
You’re talking about Spider-Man movies LMAO. Chill out dude.
This may be the worst ranking so far. It should have been Spider-Man 2, Amazing Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 3
LMAO Omg this was all kinds of great. Watching Greg lose his mind towards the end was priceless! Great work guys! Hope you continue this series........ maybe a DCEU in review? I know it will hurt Greg's sanity........ but watching him lose it is just too entertaining to pass up! Great work guys!
This movie is the worst of all the Spider-Man movies for the smile of the fucking eel alone
Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker, the cool skateboarding outcast from the first movie, would no way be listening to Phillip fucking Phillips
i’m not sure what i like more, the review series, or the amount that greg makes himself laugh.
i fucking love it
For me personally, the list is:
1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man
3. Spider-Man: Homecoming
4. Spider-Man 3
5. The Amazing Spider-Man
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Favoirite Review Show #GOAT
In answer to “is it graffiti if it dissolves”, when I was 8, I squeezed my water all over an exterior wall in really hot heat, and someone told the teachers, who then whipped me right in and gave me a behaviour card to monitor my actions the next month and by the time we got outside it had dried up. Wild child so I was
You guys are legit out of your fucking mind with these rankings. Holy shit this list. I thought you guys did a fair list for MCU and ok one for xmen but this is nonsense. You guys really don't appreciate the Raimi films for how good they are. I still like you guys and like what you do but this Spider-Man list is awful I disagree with the whole thing
One of the worse superhero movies action was awful 😂