Man scorched earth take me back. when I was a kid I did not have my own pc so I always played at my best friends house he had an old 486 and we played scorched earth, Sam and max, Theme park, Warcraft orcs and humans, Heroes of might and magic 2 and Civ . So many fond memories.
Coincidentally all games that you mentioned are fantastic! Or, not coincidentally at all, and you remember them in particular cause they were so good. :)
@@willk7184 Yeah. It was a-OK in single, but as soon as you had someone else with you, at least one person, it turned into a better game than most of those triple-A ones were. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames probably because it is used a lot , but at the same time. there is only so many ways to say you appreciate peoples comments ;) . or commentors only have so many ways of saying great video lol
@@Bowen_Landry True true true :) But I appreciate them all, not only because they feel good, positive comments that is, or that we're creating a small community here, but also it helps the algorithm, which is a puzzle all on its own. xD
Civ 2 was still very similiar, but the unexpected element was its easy way to create your own scenarios and modify the entire game enough to create your own units, terrain etc. I think that it still has old fans who create mods and scenarios. The game is almost 30 years old.
Great video, as usual. Around this time I still had an Amiga. It was enjoying its final moments of success but some interesting games were made around that time, such as Cybercon 3 (1991 too), that was very complex for its time and maybe inspired games like System Shock.
Thanks! So did I, I just jumped into all the oldies when I got PC, to replay the games I was reading about in gaming mags, but never had a chance to try out. And since piracy was rather wide spread, getting CDs full of old DOS classics was rather easy. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Too bad DOS gaming was often a nightmare, when it wasn't about configuring autoexec or config, some PC component would make the game crash. Gaming is so much accessible now.
And again some time machine! When Flashback came out later, we had rumor that it is Another World sequel - because of vector animated intro. And really, they fit pretty well - both is some distant planet and alien techs. Outro music of AW was a brilliant the days btw!
Thank you for adding the game list in the description (I think sometime after the video was uploaded. I don't think it was there at first). - Sticking to the DOS theme in this recent video upload, have you ever mentioned the real-time Worms variant from a Finnish coder released in 1998-1999 called "Liero" in a video? It was very obscure to me at first, but I learnt about it just now from a Steam user who mentioned it in a small review for a recent, obscure strategy. LOL. Now it has since gotten many clones and open-source recreations over the decades!
Well, yeah, no worries, the description was supposed to be there from day one, but something happened along the way and I had to move it for the next day. Oh, yeah, I've Liero covered in one of the Obscure DOS Games videos. I played it with a buddy of mine like all the freaking time.
I sank many hours into Commander Keen, even though I would't describe myself as a platformer fan. I am a huge meteroidvania fan though and in retrospect I'd say that CK delivered a somewhat meteroidvania-like experience.
@@Qba86 It's pretty good. Very metroidvania-like but with more "freeform" shooting. Also, my backlog of shame is my list of mistakes and bad decisions. I seem to be using it for all the wrong reasons. ;)
Volfied was kind of my "one more turn" game. It always seemed so simple, yet I kept getting owned by some ladybug or butterfly. The strategy is to get those powerup squares. And sometimes you have to make small vertical slices on top of each other to divide the screen bit by bit rather than just dashing for it from side to side and getting your "line touched". Really addictive game. And Lemmings... Well, those were just great games! We had the holiday one when I was little. I still struggle on lots of the levels. :P All the Monkey Island games are fantastic. And LeChuck's revenge is a great continuation on the original. Guybrush might be a (mighty) pirate now, but he's still a an innocent goof. My best friend at school had Commander Keen 4 and I tried it out on her computer, but it just never clicked with me. I preferred Jazz Jackrabbit. I got her into Jazz 2 as well and we played it a lot. ^^ Lots of great games in today's video!
Volfied kicked my ass on this recording big time. I remember it being so much easier, but the fact is, I'm just not as used to these arcade games as I was. Granted I didn't play it on release date, but years later, but the sentiment stands. :) I see, you're a professional though. :) Unlike LiS or Detroit, Monkey Island games are actually adventures I had fun with, and not got left broken after. Which has its merits too. :)| Both Jazz games were fun. I wish you'd play Superfrog or Fury of the Furries. These were the bomb! :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames A professional Volfied player. I'll add it to my resume next to vampire master and overall saver of the day. :D I'll make your wish come true then :D I'll stick those games at the top of my list and maybe we can all see later how much of an amateur I am. :D
@@TeaAndFloppyDisks If I'm ever in a very very VERY hypothetical situation in which I'd need to beat Volfied or be killed, I'll give you a shout. Cause if I'll be attempting it myself, I'm toast. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames You may never know. Maybe the post-apocalyptic world will be a tournament of retro arcade games, each more difficult than the previous. And the winner will be supreme ruler over all the (slightly charred and radioactive) Earth.
I'd been trying to remember what the name of the Boulder Dash clone was that I had the interns playing when there was nothing to do way back when. So it was Supaplex. Thanks :D And thanks again for the memory lane trip. So many games I played or wanted to play.
You're welcome and I'm glad you liked it. Though, it has to be said that all these games were really good, so liking the video was pretty easy when watching such awesome titles. :)
A great year indeed. Commander Keen 6 was ALSO released in 1991 and is actually my favourite. Keen is also one of the few platformer series of the time (Sonic and Mario are others that come to mind) that still has an active fan community that keeps making excellent fan game continuations using the same game engine (excellent recent ones include "Atroxian Realm", "Foray in the Forest" and "Dead in the Desert").
Wow, I hadn't realized how many amazing games were released in 1991 alone. I played a lot of these years after the fact (limited funds!), but have extremely fond memories of a lot of them -- and many went on to be staying powers as series, etc.
Aha I found the clip where you review D/Generation. I feel like you and I are the only two people who know about this game lol. I played it when it came out (as shareware I believe). Gameplay was fun - good action but also with tactics, and the setting was really cool for its time. Nice to see it shown here.
Nope, you're wrong, there's one more guy who played it. We've spoke about it under one of my earlier videos too. So, there's three of us. ;) That said, I've recently tried it again, and it's just too difficult for me now. I must be getting old. xD
Civ1 will always be my favourite strategy game. Sure there are better games, but this DOS/Amiga/Windows classic was the first that genuinely didn't feel linear.
Another World is a perfect game. Civ 1 - my top 3 of all time. Keen4 was THE platformer on early PCs. Everyone in Poland played Supaplex. Love it. I could only dream about Wing Commander though ..
Something else to mention about 4d boxing is you had real player progression. So those boxers in this clip are moving slow as hell, but you can actually build your character up to a point their boxing is very fast and crisp. I don't think boxing games actually caught up with their mechanics until fight night in 2004.
Oh, I've played it for this video and this *was* fun too. And I didn't have time for the whole campaign, but boy did I considered it. xD EDIT: by campaign I mean career xD
SpaceQuest IV, oh yes, such amazing atmosphere. My favourite Space Quest. Eye of the Beholder II was hard, but engrossing. I remember Supaplex fondly, but it proved to be rather unstable on my machine.
I'm not sure if you've mentioned F29 Retaliator yet? Not the most advanced flight game, but I enjoyed it, and it ran on pretty much anything. PS: Airwolf was GREAT! Loved it as a teen. And in order to not break my rose tinted glasses, I have made sure not to watch it since. :)
No, I've not covered it yet. I played it quite a bit on the Amiga though. What a great tactical move not watching Airwolf not to spoil it... You would, so great move! :)
I wanted to insert a joke here, but it is the weakest of the forces. And I just couldn't help myself but to nod my head, agree, and leave this very serious comment. Odd. I should seek help. xD
Another game with an element of time travel but not the one I'm hoping to see again, the mystery wrecks my brain. I'm sure it will turn up on a future episode, there's almost a pun in that sentence. I am finding through watching these compilations that there are a lot more of that type of game than I thought there was. Searching specifically for old games with time travel in them doesn't uncover the ones I have been seeing in your compilations recently.
I'd scratch the "almost", there definitely is a time travelling pun there. And a good one at that. It's subtle but if you read carefully, it's hard to miss. :) And yeah, when I didn't remember the game you asked about, I googled and binged (co-piloted to be precise) and didn't come out with anything, so I tried that too. xD But you know how it is... You don't remember the game until you come across it, and when you do, everything comes back to you. :)
I still find it hard to believe John Carmack and John Romero created Commander Keen. They gp from Keen to Wolfenstein, Doom, Doom 2, Quake, and Quake 2.
Spent hours playing Scorched Earth and Tank Wars at school. Another Word was too difficult for me in my youth. Space Quest IV was awesome. I remember buying PC gaming mags for hints and tips for games like Monkey Island 2. Commander Keen 4 I payed for days straight coming from a shareware disc from a magazine. 4D Boxing was rage inducing for me. Gods I didn't like because it felt janky to control. Lemmings was a awesome puzzle game.
Another World is no easier today. I sucked so badly at it when trying to get a footage for it, that I had to take it from another channel, as I couldn't get passed the initial starting area. xD
Gotta say. Another world is definitely incredible on dos. Yeah at first you die quite a bit but as you learn you get stronger...not physically but more like your cunning improves
Can I ask you something? When you use a video from another channel you ask then for permission? I asking this because I am thinking about do something similar but with some new msx titles in portuguese language; I played it, I wrote about them, but at that time I forgot to record.I would like to sugest you to do videos about window abandonaware games... I thinking about do this too, i even did already a small list of titles, but all the content would weigh too much on my computer, I mean when I start editing.
I did for a while but hardly ever got a reply. So, eventually I read on the subject and as long as you transform the video you're taking, and not just copy it as is, and it's with your unique commentary, and just a part of it, and not all, then it's withing fair use. That said, I always make sure to have the name of the channel always clearly visible on the screen when their footage is running, and link to them in the description. So, that the viewer can go to their channel if they wanna see more. Also, where possible, I try to use footage from smaller channels, so that they could benefit from those few extra views. All that said, I'm trying to slowly move to my own videos. It'll take time, but the idea is to get independent and also ensure the highest possible quality, cause I can record them locally at 4K with ease. Don't know if that helps, but I tried.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thank you a lot! I asked because I write about new ZX Spectrum and MSX games on my blog, and someone already suggested me to turn my work into a video. But it would be a lot of work to replay everything again to record because I had forgotten to record in the past while I was writing the articles - At that time I didn't have a good PC either, now I have a good PC but very little storage. Don't see this as a criticism, I really like your work! I became a fan. Here my blog, but all my text is in portuguese: paraiso-godi-nekinha.blogspot.com/2022/07/110-novos-para-jogar-no-seu-msx.html
Eye of Beholder 2 was the best from the series. I remeber playing it with my cousin in 1993 and we didn't know english and clicked on stuff by try and error :P
What a mix. I had many of these and some I've never heard of. Everyone says Elvira 2 was the better one, but I HATED it, and I really loved the first one. Hence remaking/enhancing it for modern systems. Subjective I s'pose.
Yes, it is. And it's fine. It's actually really cool that we all like different games. I loved Mass Effect Andromeda. The one everyone hated. So, I'm fine with not being on the same side as the majority. :)
I would love to. There's just a thing with the big N, that their outlook on small TH-camr's covering their stuff is very mixed. So, I'm a bit weary of doing so.
Conquests of the Longbow - Never played it, nor Conquests of Camelot, not a fan of (those type of) Sierra games. Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon - I played some of the EotB games, and liked them, as I generally love both AD&D and dungeon crawlers, but always found them too hard and cryptic. Might give them another go one day. Another World aka Out of This World - This game blew me away when I first saw it as a kid, and inspired me to no end, it was like a great SF cartoon come to life, and on my crappy PC! That being said, the game is hard as nails, I recently tried playing it again, and with all the cheats (FAQs and quicksaves) and I still had to give it up. Scorched Earth - My first encounter with this kind of a game was through Worms 2, so all these earlier primitive ones were too primitive for me. Ultima - Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams - Like I've commented on one of your previous videos, even though I love RPGs, I just can't play these Ultima engine ones, they just don't fir for me. Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers - I've played it a bit as a kid, and replayed it and finished it just recently. Well, it looks nice and it's very funny at moments, but it's also very BS hard and overall pretty meh. The sequel is much better. Elvira 2: The Jaws of Cerberus - Heard of it but never played it, which is strange because I love boo....er... boobs. Yes, I love boobs. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - One of my all-time favorite P&C adventure gems, a true classic. I replayed it recently (the new edition), but with original graphics, the new ones suck. Commander Keen 4: Secret of the Oracle - I'm a big fan of the franchise. Played it numerous times. Martian Memorandum - I've never even heard of this one, I'll check it out sometimes. Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra - I've started this series from the fourth instalment, so I've never played this one. Sir Meier's Civilization - My first Civ game was the second one, and I played the hell out of it, especially during the NATO bombing of my country. Ah, good times! 4-D Sports Boxing - I actually had this, but since I'm not a big fan of either boxing or early 3D, this was a hard pass for me. Falcon 3.0 - Same, flight simulations were never my thing. Volfied - I never played this one, but I played many similar games on arcade machines in which you open pictures of scantly clad ladies. Now that's incentive! Pools of Darkness - I could never get into these old D&D games, the engine and graphics were much too archaic for my taste. Wing Commander II: Vengeance of the Kilrathi - See Falcon 3.0 Supaplex - Strange, I've never considered Supaplex to be a Boulder Dash clone before, even though I now see it obviously is one. Anyway, it's a classic on its own rights, there are few PC owners who didn't own it and played it. D/Generation - Never heard of this one either. Gods - Whaaat, you don't like Gods??? Unlike, unsubscribe, unsend all the love letters I've sent you! Jokes aside, this was one of the first games I had on my PC, and the first one that could not only compare to the ones in the arcade, but was actually superior to most of them. Gods was Dark Souls before Dark souls, hugely exploration and secret-hunting driven, with tons of things to figure out. I actually managed to beat it once or twice as a kid, and I can get to the third or fourth world even now. Planet's Edge: The Point of No Return - See Ultima - Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams Lemmings - Loved it as a kid, and replayed it (and the sequel) quite recently. A true classic! Gunship 2000 - See Falcon 3.0 Leisure Suit Larry 1: In the Land of Lounge Lizards - I didn't like the early LSL games because of the engine and some of design choices, and really got into them only from the sixth part. BUT! I've played the relatively new remake of this game, Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded, and I recommend it to everyone, it updates the graphics to a cartoon level standard while keeping all the charm of the original Commander Keen 5: The Armageddon Machine - Loved it the same as the others, which is to say a lot.
I get what you're saying about Another World. I've tried recording it for this video but had to give up, as I was failing so often, and so early, that getting any kind of a usable footage was impossible. And I remember being rather decent at it back in the day. xD You liked worms? Well, Worms 2 Armageddon will be in the next Early Windows 1999 video. :) Have you played the latest Monkey Island game? The one that came out last year? The combat in Pools of Darkness, and other Goldbox games is just so much more fun and closer to AD&D than any of the first person games of the time. If you ever decide to give them a go, it may be worth your time. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I love Monkey Island 1-3, almost equally, but I didn't like any of the ones that came after, including the newest one. I really disliked the graphic style and the modern writing.
Is your character eyeballs throughout the entire game or just occasionally? Also what's the view point? Top down, isometric, side view? And genre? Theme? Sci-fi, fantasy, urban, something else? Anything else that you could share about it will be helpful.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames No, it's throughout the entire game. I remember that i played this DOS game in around the year 2000 as a kid. the character is just 2 eyeballs, you collect items that look like lollipops, and the enemies are moving rectangles with just dot eyes (they are similar to the yellow boxes with dot eyes in super mario world but they have different color). the game had only 10 stages. the stages and gameplay were somewhat similar to "donkey kong" (DOS game). the graphics were much better and the structures that constitute the stages were green and had brick-like patterns. you could also build custom stages. i remember the name of the game in my PC was "construct" but i belive that's not the real name bc other games in my PC for some reason had false names as well. and i could not find any DOS game that has that name anyway. i searched in the internet and i found all my childhood DOS games except this game.
Just year before i jumped on to my first PC, at that time i was on Atari 600XL... and man did i make right choice, for one thing DOS was perfect for my kid mind and for another i am very keen on learning about games of the era since i feel the most nostalgic for nearly entire 90s DOS. Another World and Flashback both had me stomped and i never finished either hmmm i may have to man up and revisit them. afterall the eternal castle was glorious so maybe my brain CAN now manage to deal with both game's puzzles? quick scan of games i own did reveal both martian dreams and several games in space quest (as well as king's quest) tho for reasons mentioned in the SQ part i never finished a single one, martian dreams i am not sure why never played much of. but it dose fall into era where its so tantalizingly close to me grasping it and yet just out of reach. you see i am simpleton and can deal with darkstone for example for a while i just cna not finish it because i am still too incompetent, but when things get too complex i feel stumped. (i also have way too may dungeon games and role playing games to pick through if i feel the want to so dont play things too complex... kinda think now i SHOULD challange myself hmm. Ouf and i only have the first Elvira game, with heavy heart i will have to add this beauty's second game to my wishlist ... er for research you udnerstand .P Oh yayy suppaplex! i did not know about boulderdash in 91 and i was fascinated by supaplex. its good game and has rather distinct graphics. lovely reminder of gooden times .) 1'991 was FIRST lemmings? interesting i always thought it tracked to the year before. but yes the sense of hummour in that game and puzzle element meant that Team17 was thrusted on the map. and they wormed up to players too .) kinda sad that they were stuck into first lemmings and than worms games for a while but they did a glorious racing game (StuntGP) which i conssider one of my favourite semi-simulation games of all time. it is cry, crime and shame that they do not distribute it on GoG/Steam.
Oh man... Jump from 8bit Atari to PC must've felt like a huge leap. Like 2 or 3 generations at once. xD From my experience, as much as puzzles in those classics (FB & AW) are easier, the arcade parts feel now more demanding. So it switched. xD Yeah, yeah, yeah... We all like Elvira for science! ;) Team 17 were amazing at the time, and then for many many many years they seemed to be laser focused on releasing more and more Worms, not all great, but all of them at full price. And only recently, in the last few years, they've started working on many different games, and back to their former self. Granted smaller games, that they mostly work on, are not as popular as some of the AAA games are, but generally speaking, they work on rather good stuff now.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames i have surprising amount of games that i THINK they produced or distributed or something. Their GoG catalogue is rather odd, few throwbacks to some 90s games made interesting but also oddities like Greak a platformer of all things XD. As avid fan of French studio "spiders" i rather have that tier of games made by people who love the game making and do good job every single time (i've yet to play bad game by them), it feels like spiders are following trajectory of Larian and are now on their divinity original sin tier with greedfall II (hope they too get shot at big time with something magnifficent). I do appretiate T17 for many things but nothing comes even close (within their catalogue) to how much i love StuntsGP it is mad how well that fits into my skillset, or lack there of, and yet mkes me feel realy good at driving. OBVIOUSLY Elvira's the woman of scientific miracles and deserves to be studied by generations past present and future .) oki i will stop perving over pretty lady ... for now.
@@nameless5413 Oh, Greedfall is rather fun, I have it on my Steam Deck, and I really wanna do a full playthrough at some point. :) And have G2 on my wishlist too.
I don’t know Conquests of the Longbow? Seems less Robin Hood camp than screenshots may suggest? Another World (AKA: Out of this World) is incredible, especially for it’s time. A testament to how beloved it is by everyone who’s played it is the fact that it’s been ported to anything that’ll run it, including a surprisingly good official (sort of) port to the Game Boy Advance that never released originally on cartridge but the ROM was “leaked” about 7 - 8 years ago. I’ve played it on a real GBA with a flash cart but I first played it on Amiga. Speaking of ported to everything, Scorched Earth. 😄 It inspired so much, form shareware knockoffs to Worms & it’s so much fun multiplayer. Space Quest IV looked gorgeous in it’s day & moving away from the text parser made it so much more playable for me but it still didn’t pull me in to be honest. I have both Elvira games now & they’re quite good but I didn’t play them back in the day because Elvira just wasn’t a well known character over here. I love Monkey Island 2… right up to the end. That (avoiding spoilers) throughly pissed me off. Because PC gaming took longer to take off in the UK than the US we don’t quite have the same reverence for the Commander Keen games but I can appreciate them now. I don’t know either of the “Martian” games you’ve highlighted here? Memorandum looks a bit clunky to play? Mouse control? Stuff & nonsense, it’ll never catch on. 😄 4-D Sports boxing looks like a parody of early 3-D games but it’s surprisingly good & in spite of what some cinemas will tell you the 4th dimension is time, not being sprayed in the face with a light sprits of water. Falcon 3.0 is another of those games I admire for how sophisticated it was but it’s just not for me as I prefer my arcade air combat games. Same for Gunship 2000. I was going to say Volfied looks arcade perfect & then you said it. Wing Commander II may not be the best in the series but it’s pretty darn good. I think D/Generation’s pretty good for it’s day, even if it was a bit late for an isometric game. Gods is a bit stiff playing but it was pretty good looking, especially for an Amiga game… I’ve never heard of Plant’s Edge either, it looks very Star Trek inspired? Also I have to read stuff to play it?! 😄 Lemmings is another game where I risk catching hate for saying it but I got bored of it fairly quickly. Also it’s another I know mostly as an Amiga game. I find all the Leisure Suit Larry games icky. Probably because I was raised by Christians. ‘91 was a great year for PC games, even if I hadn’t moved to PC at that point. Modularity meant PC hardware was pulling way ahead of the home micros that were still popular here in the UK but it wouldn’t be long before people started to move over. Great list, thanks! That was a fun video.
How close was Another World on GBA to the original? 1:1? I'm gonna be honest with you here. I think I liked Scorched Tanks on Amiga more than Scorched Earth. Very similar, though the Amiga version was, well, better in my eyes. I think most of Europe was either stuck on 8bit micros, or jumped onto Amiga or Atari ST, and that's why we're a little behind US in those classic releases. With some of them never reaching us "officially". I share the sentiment about both simulations, and Gods. And yeah, there's a lot to read in Planet's Edge. But it's part of the fun in this one. And it's not like a lot a lot. Just a little a lot. xD As usual, thanks for watching! :)
I think you've got rose colored glasses about the Amiga being better in 1991, if we're talking about 1991 releases particularly. I understand this seems like a subjective point, but this was the roughly the inflection point to the PC. By 1990 everything Amiga *could* go to PC, but the reverse was no longer true. 1990 was still a high point for the Amiga based on what was being released. In 1991 games were much more likely to be written for VGA on the PC, and the cross platform games were more likely, ported and lesser. The Amiga still had a stronger collection of console-style action games because they weren't ported or ported well. And there were other important games that didn't move over. But the critical 1991 PC games...man...let's do comparisons (and hopefully I finish this unlike the last couple). I know we're not throwing in the great Amiga titles, but I think this says a bit about the state of the Amiga. Conquests of the Longbow: The Legend of Robin Hood: Makes it to Amiga the next year. I think this is very much one of the less important point and click Sierra games of the time, except maybe the mini-game tech is important (SQ IV uses the engine first). It doesn't lead anywhere, although it's arguably more popular than the game it essentially followed, Conquests of Camelot. This is not a statement on the quality of the game. Eye of the Beholder II: Electric Boogaloo. Westwood stuffed out the first II eye games in one year, just like Cannon Films with Breakin' and Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo. The Amiga EotB2 hit in 1992, following the trend where DOS was the primary platform. But if we're being fair, the important game is Dungeon Master, and that's a 1987(!) release on the Amiga's less successful identical twin, the ST. The Amiga release was 1988. Yes, Westwood did a great official D&D Dungeon Master clone, but I don't think the PC gets props for being ahead on EotB. Out of this World / Another World / As the World Turns: I played this on the SNES the next year. To me this has always been an Amiga first game, but I can't establish the truth on this. Here's my problem: even as a kid, I always thought this game was more of a neat trick than an interesting game. It was an attempt to FMV without FMV. The canned timing required puts the game closer to Dragon's Lair than Prince of Persia or Flashback. I never loved it. Scorched Earth: I have this weird thing with Scorched Earth because I KNOW it was the popular Artillery game before Worms tried to give Amiga hope in 1995. But there's another similar Artillery game with terrain deformation, Tank Wars, from 1990. I played Tank Wars before SE. SE was missing features and until Worms I was always chasing the dragon for Tank Wars (since I couldn't find it anymore. Anyway, very DOS. The Dossiest of All Shareware. Martian Dreams: The Amiga wouldn't get Ultima VI until next year and would never get the Worlds games. Of course, the reason why they wouldn't have ported the worlds games is that they weren't successful. I think this is a common problem with RPG engine spinoffs that aren't named "Icewind Dale". Even if they are good games (as is the case here) the audience doesn't connect. This wasn't a system seller at all in 1991. Space Quest IV: The Important Sierra PC adventure game. Amiga a year later. Good luck with the Ice Rink. Elvira II: I think reviewers now care more about Elvira II than in 1991. Sometimes people go back and see a game and it becomes something it wasn't at the time. I can't find sales stats to say anything specific and I'm sure it wasn't NOTHING, but I don't know that I put it anywhere essential. The game had serious problems. (But so does Space Quest IV's Ice Rink on any modern PC). Amiga next year (and Atari ST - I suspect this is only because it used an existing Horror/AdventureSoft engine). I wouldn't could it towards anybody, if I'm being fair. Monkey Island 2: Arguments about the ending aside, super essential. Amiga...let me check...a year later. Commander Keen 4: While CK IV might be archetypical, I'm not sure that any of the Romero/Unrelated Carmacks/Hall Apogee platformers are "essential" because they were factory making them. As a whole they might be essential. Very DOS, but this is the zone where DOS is trying its best to be like an Amiga. Martian Memo: Essential, not on the Amiga. Maybe it could have ported with a minor downgrade, but a flagbearer for the non-cartoony PC adventures of the 1990's. Might and Magic III: Not the most essential RPG, but it's important. Amiga next year. Even with something that isn't pushing the limits like MMIII, put he Amiga side by side and you see the tiny color drop between the systems. Civilization: Did you know Sid started Civilization as a real time game? People bought PCs for this. Amiga next year - similar minor downgrade. I never bothered to play the game on Amiga, so I decided to do some research. In theory, these kinds of games would start to tax old Amigas and the 1992 Amiga version apparently was a slug. The game had to use the disk drive to swap to make up for the lack of memory. 4D Boxing: This game is really important to me because I learned a lot writing a util for it. Amiga Same Year! But I have reason to believe it ran terribly. It does not look nearly as good as DOS. Falcon 3.0: The essential combat flight sim of the era. Spectrum Holobyte's Crowning Achievement. When you get to the heart of what the Amiga could not do, you have a game like Falcon 3.0. The Amiga could run Civ or 4D boxing with compromises. It could not run Falcon. Every part of the game was too much. Volfied - not at all essential on PC. Arcade port that's Qix but Tatio didn't call it Qix for some reason. You can absolutely love it, and nothing against a Qix update, but it's anything but essential and it looks old for 1991 on the PC. Pool of Darkness: A Gold Box game expert will have to tell me how this stacks up in the series. I find the Gold Box are much harder to play now. Amiga Next Year with Less Color. WCII: Wing Commander, the game that launched 1000 space ships, would hit the Amiga the next year. WCII would not. WC runs brutally on many (most) Amiga systems while looking worse. I think Amiga players got kind of screwed when they tried to port something that should not have been ported. CD32 version seems to run better. Supaplex - No, I'm not saying a new Boulder Dash is essential in 1991. I respect your right to be wacky, but you are wacky-wrong. D/Generation. I don't know if it's essential. I didn't feel any groundswell at the time. Certainly saw the game. Amiga a year later. I really need to get more info since I've passed it up. Gods - So you say you think the Amiga was the better system and you choose Gods? Weird. This is the PC. We don't care about The Bitmap Brothers. In all seriousness, I think there's a bit too much passion around some of these releases, but it is hard as an American PC gamer coming from a different perspective. The game wasn't released until 1992 in the US and I doubt it was very common. In the US, not essential. This is not to put a comment on the quality, just to say it's hard to put a finger on where it fits. Planet's Edge: Very DOS. I don't know that this is at all essential. It fits into the zone of modestly inscrutable presentations that players will either feel or not feel. Lemmings: The point for the Amiga here is that this release has no two player mode. This was the one thing in 1991 that I saw on an Amiga and said oooh...then I got the PC version and I was fine. Gunship 2000: It's not Falcon 3.0, but the same logic applies. Except it did hit the Amiga in 1993? Really? It's an Amiga CD32 as well, specs say it would run on the 500...let's look. So the game runs OK, certainly not as well as DOS. Not very pretty, but the low skyline of the helicopter sim means that Gunship 2000, all around, doesn't require nearly the power the Falcon 3.0 does. But it is 2 years late on the Amiga. LSL1: If any of the Sierra Re-releases are essential, I don't think it is LSL1. Probably next year's Police Quest Rerelease. CK5: See CK4 Ok, what are you missing out on...modern MobyScore doesn't catch the Zeitgiest. I would drop at least 5 on your list, probably more. Castles (Amiga next year) F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter 2.0 (Amiga 1993 - maybe the same engine as Gunship 2000? This game was important) Jones in the Fast Lane (Amiga never, if you want a Sierra cult classic) Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (Amiga Never, important Totally games sim) Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective (Essential, never got Amiga CD32) SimAnt (Amiga 1992. It's not good, but it's ubiquitous). The Perfect General (I'm surprised this had a 1991 Amiga release. Very important to a certain crowd) I could keep going on. There isn't this big collection of games in 1991 that mattered that was Amiga first. The Amiga had a solid backlog in 1991, but the new play was coming on the PC, and would arrive in lesser format on Amiga. The Amiga tech had passed its prime in important ways and would never recover. I do not wish to say that you should not have loved your Amiga, or that people didn't have a blast in 1991. But it was always in the past at this point. Intrepid developers would work hard to make great gameplay, but it was with the caveat "and they did it on an Amiga!"
You know that I'm positive and root for the now dead underdog that the Amiga was. :) Also, if we're on the artillery-like games, Amiga's Scorched Tanks was my favourite version of the game, arguably bit better than Scorched Earth on PC. Oh, and I'm not following the suit of comparisons here, just thought I'd mention it here, as it was fun. As much as the Civilization on the Amiga was not a slug at all, it was a nightmare to run if you didn't had at least 2MB of RAM. Cause if you didn't you had to go through the whole nearly 15-minutes long introduction, while the game created the World for you to play on. Even if it was supposed to be a game on Earth. And it couldn't be skipped, stopped, hastened. You had to sit through and watch it. Not to mention disk swapping for all the palace upgrades and such. It was annoying. xD Also, I loved Jones in the Fastlane. Even if I played it years after its release and by a mistake, as I just kinda always overlooked it thinking it was some kind of an edutainment. :)
Seriously? Oh well, I suppose that's what makes those online interactions special, we get to share experiences and opinions even if they are different. :)
@OldAndNewVideoGames lol it's personal preference, but what I was surprised by objectively ia including qfg3 on the '92 video but not including qfg4 many would consider the greatest qfg game and one of the greatest Sierra games, though I also like qfg1 vga the same as shadows of darkness
Wow. You would need to have a ridiculous large 100 MB harddrive to play all those games, but nobody will ever produce a HDD with more than 20 MB. I m pretty sure that future games will focus more on Nintendos and Segas consoles. 🤣
Keep on it man! You do not only inform, you also make a time travel where we can join with you! Thumbs up 👍. Do you know if Zackmac. exist also as a VGA version? Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Zak McKracken is an odd one. DOS had two versions. Both EGA, but one in "high resolution". As in not 640x480 but higher than what the original run in. FM Towns, Mac and Windows all got ports of the 256-colour version at some point, so if you look for this one, Windows may be the best way to go. :)
@@pju28 Was there a pure DOS VGA version? I didn't know of it. I know of all the others though. Still, it's not that important, is it? What is though, is that it's a brilliant little adventure game. :) Scratch the "little".
@@OldAndNewVideoGames last time you wrote me about you Broken floppy drive .. the Channe „Mark fixes stuff“ search for the video Use a PC Floppy drive on a Commodore Amiga! Good tutorial. Hopefully it help you!
Standing applause for Westwood.
:)
❤ king of 90's RPG's
Rest in Peace!
I recently replayed Lands of Lore 2 on a big screen TV with a controller. Amazing game.
@@TheJosep70 You know, this actually sounds like fun. :)
Man scorched earth take me back. when I was a kid I did not have my own pc so I always played at my best friends house he had an old 486 and we played scorched earth, Sam and max, Theme park, Warcraft orcs and humans, Heroes of might and magic 2 and Civ . So many fond memories.
Coincidentally all games that you mentioned are fantastic! Or, not coincidentally at all, and you remember them in particular cause they were so good. :)
Scorched earth was so much fun. The idea was simple but there was all this drama and anticipation in every turn. We played for hours.
@@willk7184 Yeah. It was a-OK in single, but as soon as you had someone else with you, at least one person, it turned into a better game than most of those triple-A ones were. xD
Scorched Earth is the best. I had so much fun playing that game and later Worms.
Scorched Tanks, Amiga version was a bit better. If you ever get a chance, it's worth experiencing.
awesome set of games, and congrats on reaching 12k!
Thanks a bunch! :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames probably because it is used a lot , but at the same time. there is only so many ways to say you appreciate peoples comments ;) . or commentors only have so many ways of saying great video lol
@@Bowen_Landry True true true :) But I appreciate them all, not only because they feel good, positive comments that is, or that we're creating a small community here, but also it helps the algorithm, which is a puzzle all on its own. xD
Civ1 was a game that brought me into turnbase strategic games ... and i'm to this day addicted to them ^^
As addictions go, this one's one of the best. ;)
Scorched earth best game!
@@chrisfellows8507 If you ever get a chance, check Amiga's Scorched Tanks. It's brilliant too.
Civ 2 was still very similiar, but the unexpected element was its easy way to create your own scenarios and modify the entire game enough to create your own units, terrain etc.
I think that it still has old fans who create mods and scenarios. The game is almost 30 years old.
@@alfonszitterbacke318 Yeah, I think the MGE came with an editor for it all, if I remember correctly.
Great video, as usual. Around this time I still had an Amiga. It was enjoying its final moments of success but some interesting games were made around that time, such as Cybercon 3 (1991 too), that was very complex for its time and maybe inspired games like System Shock.
Thanks! So did I, I just jumped into all the oldies when I got PC, to replay the games I was reading about in gaming mags, but never had a chance to try out. And since piracy was rather wide spread, getting CDs full of old DOS classics was rather easy. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Too bad DOS gaming was often a nightmare, when it wasn't about configuring autoexec or config, some PC component would make the game crash. Gaming is so much accessible now.
@@TheJosep70 Agreed. Loved the games, hated the experience. :)
I am gonna say it: I preferred Martian Dreams to some Ultima games! And it took me nearly a year to learn to play Falcon 3.0!
Nothing weird with that. I prefer talking to combat games too.
And again some time machine!
When Flashback came out later, we had rumor that it is Another World sequel - because of vector animated intro. And really, they fit pretty well - both is some distant planet and alien techs.
Outro music of AW was a brilliant the days btw!
Yeah, the rumour seemed to have spread everywhere. :)
Thank you for adding the game list in the description (I think sometime after the video was uploaded. I don't think it was there at first).
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Sticking to the DOS theme in this recent video upload, have you ever mentioned the real-time Worms variant from a Finnish coder released in 1998-1999 called "Liero" in a video?
It was very obscure to me at first, but I learnt about it just now from a Steam user who mentioned it in a small review for a recent, obscure strategy. LOL.
Now it has since gotten many clones and open-source recreations over the decades!
Well, yeah, no worries, the description was supposed to be there from day one, but something happened along the way and I had to move it for the next day.
Oh, yeah, I've Liero covered in one of the Obscure DOS Games videos. I played it with a buddy of mine like all the freaking time.
Oi. It's in the very early issue 6 list video in your obscure DOS series just under a year ago. That was so long ago! It's the last title there.
@@ObiKKa When all series are done, I should really think of some kind of a directory with all the games listed. xD
I sank many hours into Commander Keen, even though I would't describe myself as a platformer fan. I am a huge meteroidvania fan though and in retrospect I'd say that CK delivered a somewhat meteroidvania-like experience.
Did you liked Abuse?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Sadly I never got to play it. It is on my backlog of shame though ;)
@@Qba86 It's pretty good. Very metroidvania-like but with more "freeform" shooting.
Also, my backlog of shame is my list of mistakes and bad decisions. I seem to be using it for all the wrong reasons. ;)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Ohh.. I have one of those too ;)
@@Qba86 Ha ha ha :)
Volfied was kind of my "one more turn" game. It always seemed so simple, yet I kept getting owned by some ladybug or butterfly. The strategy is to get those powerup squares. And sometimes you have to make small vertical slices on top of each other to divide the screen bit by bit rather than just dashing for it from side to side and getting your "line touched". Really addictive game.
And Lemmings... Well, those were just great games! We had the holiday one when I was little. I still struggle on lots of the levels. :P
All the Monkey Island games are fantastic. And LeChuck's revenge is a great continuation on the original. Guybrush might be a (mighty) pirate now, but he's still a an innocent goof.
My best friend at school had Commander Keen 4 and I tried it out on her computer, but it just never clicked with me. I preferred Jazz Jackrabbit. I got her into Jazz 2 as well and we played it a lot. ^^
Lots of great games in today's video!
Volfied kicked my ass on this recording big time. I remember it being so much easier, but the fact is, I'm just not as used to these arcade games as I was. Granted I didn't play it on release date, but years later, but the sentiment stands. :) I see, you're a professional though. :)
Unlike LiS or Detroit, Monkey Island games are actually adventures I had fun with, and not got left broken after. Which has its merits too. :)|
Both Jazz games were fun. I wish you'd play Superfrog or Fury of the Furries. These were the bomb! :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames A professional Volfied player. I'll add it to my resume next to vampire master and overall saver of the day. :D
I'll make your wish come true then :D I'll stick those games at the top of my list and maybe we can all see later how much of an amateur I am. :D
@@TeaAndFloppyDisks If I'm ever in a very very VERY hypothetical situation in which I'd need to beat Volfied or be killed, I'll give you a shout. Cause if I'll be attempting it myself, I'm toast. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames You may never know. Maybe the post-apocalyptic world will be a tournament of retro arcade games, each more difficult than the previous. And the winner will be supreme ruler over all the (slightly charred and radioactive) Earth.
13:19 maybe the real treasure were the Le Chucks we found along the way?
OMG I actually Le Chuckled at that xD
I'd been trying to remember what the name of the Boulder Dash clone was that I had the interns playing when there was nothing to do way back when. So it was Supaplex. Thanks :D
And thanks again for the memory lane trip. So many games I played or wanted to play.
You're welcome and I'm glad you liked it. Though, it has to be said that all these games were really good, so liking the video was pretty easy when watching such awesome titles. :)
A great year indeed. Commander Keen 6 was ALSO released in 1991 and is actually my favourite. Keen is also one of the few platformer series of the time (Sonic and Mario are others that come to mind) that still has an active fan community that keeps making excellent fan game continuations using the same game engine (excellent recent ones include "Atroxian Realm", "Foray in the Forest" and "Dead in the Desert").
If I didn't plan on touching as many genres as I could, Keen would definitely end up in a video. :)
Wow, I hadn't realized how many amazing games were released in 1991 alone. I played a lot of these years after the fact (limited funds!), but have extremely fond memories of a lot of them -- and many went on to be staying powers as series, etc.
Yep, it was definitely a good year. :)
Aha I found the clip where you review D/Generation. I feel like you and I are the only two people who know about this game lol. I played it when it came out (as shareware I believe). Gameplay was fun - good action but also with tactics, and the setting was really cool for its time. Nice to see it shown here.
Nope, you're wrong, there's one more guy who played it. We've spoke about it under one of my earlier videos too. So, there's three of us. ;) That said, I've recently tried it again, and it's just too difficult for me now. I must be getting old. xD
WCII was the first DOS game I received as a kid. That was quite the upgrade from NES games.
Oh, I can only imagine. It's like going to Amiga from C64. xD
Civ1 will always be my favourite strategy game. Sure there are better games, but this DOS/Amiga/Windows classic was the first that genuinely didn't feel linear.
And how great were the diplomats?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Arguably they were the greatest weapon in the game.
@@gumdeo In the game = yes. In the World = no. That would be Duke Nukem's jawline. xD
Another World is a perfect game. Civ 1 - my top 3 of all time. Keen4 was THE platformer on early PCs. Everyone in Poland played Supaplex. Love it. I could only dream about Wing Commander though ..
Everyone in Poland DID play Supaplex. :) Sooner or later.
20:09 if I was named Shart-tan by my parents I would become Evil and hell-bent on world destruction, too
Aren't shart tan's the stains on your underwear? ;)
It's definitely tan after one escapes the flesh chasm.
4d Boxing was sooooo good. Still get the 1000 yard stare when I think back on the fighter called Anagram Unblinclna. Dude was TUFF!
It was good! I did play it the most on the Amiga though.
Man 1991 was one hell 9f a year for pc gamers. I played most of these games and loved them
Yep, it was so difficult to get it boiled down to 25 only. xD
Hell yeah, D/Generation. Really under-appreciated game, although I mostly play it on Amiga.
I mostly sucked at it on anything I run it on. xD
Something else to mention about 4d boxing is you had real player progression. So those boxers in this clip are moving slow as hell, but you can actually build your character up to a point their boxing is very fast and crisp. I don't think boxing games actually caught up with their mechanics until fight night in 2004.
You are correct, sir. :) It was ahead of its time.
I hate low detail polygon games, but I loved playing 4d boxing as a kid. Something about it was just so fun.
Oh, I've played it for this video and this *was* fun too. And I didn't have time for the whole campaign, but boy did I considered it. xD
EDIT: by campaign I mean career xD
You're naughty for making Keen stun the gentle bounders
:)
Oh yeah, time for some great DOS games! 😊
DOS was special, and most of the genres we know and love today were either formed or perfected via DOS gaming.
15:50 welp, if our "saviour" gets himself killed like that, Earth is fukked.
No worries. He's a part of the Lazarus Project.
SpaceQuest IV, oh yes, such amazing atmosphere. My favourite Space Quest. Eye of the Beholder II was hard, but engrossing. I remember Supaplex fondly, but it proved to be rather unstable on my machine.
The intro alone to SQ4 is so atmospheric... I just love it! Hate random deaths though. xD
I'm not sure if you've mentioned F29 Retaliator yet? Not the most advanced flight game, but I enjoyed it, and it ran on pretty much anything.
PS: Airwolf was GREAT! Loved it as a teen. And in order to not break my rose tinted glasses, I have made sure not to watch it since. :)
No, I've not covered it yet. I played it quite a bit on the Amiga though.
What a great tactical move not watching Airwolf not to spoil it... You would, so great move! :)
Cheers mate
:)
35:45 quantum physicists do say that gravity is an incredibly weak force, but this is taking it too far:)
I wanted to insert a joke here, but it is the weakest of the forces. And I just couldn't help myself but to nod my head, agree, and leave this very serious comment. Odd. I should seek help. xD
You understand the gravity of the situation, then.
3:44 wasn't another world Originally created for the Amiga?
For Amiga and Atari ST, but DOS got the port soon after.
Another game with an element of time travel but not the one I'm hoping to see again, the mystery wrecks my brain. I'm sure it will turn up on a future episode, there's almost a pun in that sentence. I am finding through watching these compilations that there are a lot more of that type of game than I thought there was. Searching specifically for old games with time travel in them doesn't uncover the ones I have been seeing in your compilations recently.
I'd scratch the "almost", there definitely is a time travelling pun there. And a good one at that. It's subtle but if you read carefully, it's hard to miss. :)
And yeah, when I didn't remember the game you asked about, I googled and binged (co-piloted to be precise) and didn't come out with anything, so I tried that too. xD But you know how it is... You don't remember the game until you come across it, and when you do, everything comes back to you. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yes that is always the way.
chuck yeagers air combat was a 91 release as well i think. if you havent played it you should. great game. soooo many planes to pick from.
Yep, 1991. Interesting game. Though I do suck at most simulations sadly. xD
I still find it hard to believe John Carmack and John Romero created Commander Keen. They gp from Keen to Wolfenstein, Doom, Doom 2, Quake, and Quake 2.
The Legends!
Spent hours playing Scorched Earth and Tank Wars at school. Another Word was too difficult for me in my youth. Space Quest IV was awesome. I remember buying PC gaming mags for hints and tips for games like Monkey Island 2. Commander Keen 4 I payed for days straight coming from a shareware disc from a magazine. 4D Boxing was rage inducing for me. Gods I didn't like because it felt janky to control. Lemmings was a awesome puzzle game.
Another World is no easier today. I sucked so badly at it when trying to get a footage for it, that I had to take it from another channel, as I couldn't get passed the initial starting area. xD
Gotta say. Another world is definitely incredible on dos.
Yeah at first you die quite a bit but as you learn you get stronger...not physically but more like your cunning improves
True. Though while I tried playing it when working on the video to catch the recording... I soooo suck at it now. xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGames its really clunky feeling. Blackthorne did that style kinda better
@@z.s.7992 Subjectively I totally agree. 100% Objectively, it's a bit more difficult subject to tackle...
Have not seen all your videos so yet, but these looks great. Have you played "Touche: Adventures of the 5th Musketeer"? 😁
Indeed I have. It was YEARS ago, but I did. :)
Keen 4 might be my favourite platformer of all time.
Certainly for the PC. The physics and look are just right. A great selection of enemies and locales, and a great challenge.
It's a good one!
What year was aces over europe or xwing vs tiefighter?
1993 and 1997 respectively.
Can I ask you something? When you use a video from another channel you ask then for permission? I asking this because I am thinking about do something similar but with some new msx titles in portuguese language; I played it, I wrote about them, but at that time I forgot to record.I would like to sugest you to do videos about window abandonaware games... I thinking about do this too, i even did already a small list of titles, but all the content would weigh too much on my computer, I mean when I start editing.
I did for a while but hardly ever got a reply. So, eventually I read on the subject and as long as you transform the video you're taking, and not just copy it as is, and it's with your unique commentary, and just a part of it, and not all, then it's withing fair use. That said, I always make sure to have the name of the channel always clearly visible on the screen when their footage is running, and link to them in the description. So, that the viewer can go to their channel if they wanna see more. Also, where possible, I try to use footage from smaller channels, so that they could benefit from those few extra views. All that said, I'm trying to slowly move to my own videos. It'll take time, but the idea is to get independent and also ensure the highest possible quality, cause I can record them locally at 4K with ease. Don't know if that helps, but I tried.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thank you a lot! I asked because I write about new ZX Spectrum and MSX games on my blog, and someone already suggested me to turn my work into a video. But it would be a lot of work to replay everything again to record because I had forgotten to record in the past while I was writing the articles - At that time I didn't have a good PC either, now I have a good PC but very little storage. Don't see this as a criticism, I really like your work! I became a fan. Here my blog, but all my text is in portuguese: paraiso-godi-nekinha.blogspot.com/2022/07/110-novos-para-jogar-no-seu-msx.html
Might and magic 3 is probably my favorite game of all time i remember getting everything like 3x lol i never went so hard on any game since 645231 lol
It's hard to recapture the emotional impact games had on us when we were kids today. I get that.
Eye of Beholder 2 was the best from the series. I remeber playing it with my cousin in 1993 and we didn't know english and clicked on stuff by try and error :P
English or no English, I'm sure you had fun! :)
What a mix. I had many of these and some I've never heard of. Everyone says Elvira 2 was the better one, but I HATED it, and I really loved the first one. Hence remaking/enhancing it for modern systems. Subjective I s'pose.
Yes, it is. And it's fine. It's actually really cool that we all like different games. I loved Mass Effect Andromeda. The one everyone hated. So, I'm fine with not being on the same side as the majority. :)
4D boxing played it allot back in the day
Me too. Great often overlooked game!
This video was an instant Like for me. Before even I started watching it. And it was right!
WOW! Thanks! :) I've few more of these...
I want that fireplace irl!
I'll take a similar castle. Fireplace or not. ;)
I'm a fan of Super Nintendo games. Will you going to cover it in the future?
I would love to. There's just a thing with the big N, that their outlook on small TH-camr's covering their stuff is very mixed. So, I'm a bit weary of doing so.
Conquests of the Longbow - Never played it, nor Conquests of Camelot, not a fan of (those type of) Sierra games.
Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon - I played some of the EotB games, and liked them, as I generally love both AD&D and dungeon crawlers, but always found them too hard and cryptic. Might give them another go one day.
Another World aka Out of This World - This game blew me away when I first saw it as a kid, and inspired me to no end, it was like a great SF cartoon come to life, and on my crappy PC! That being said, the game is hard as nails, I recently tried playing it again, and with all the cheats (FAQs and quicksaves) and I still had to give it up.
Scorched Earth - My first encounter with this kind of a game was through Worms 2, so all these earlier primitive ones were too primitive for me.
Ultima - Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams - Like I've commented on one of your previous videos, even though I love RPGs, I just can't play these Ultima engine ones, they just don't fir for me.
Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers - I've played it a bit as a kid, and replayed it and finished it just recently. Well, it looks nice and it's very funny at moments, but it's also very BS hard and overall pretty meh. The sequel is much better.
Elvira 2: The Jaws of Cerberus - Heard of it but never played it, which is strange because I love boo....er... boobs. Yes, I love boobs.
Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - One of my all-time favorite P&C adventure gems, a true classic. I replayed it recently (the new edition), but with original graphics, the new ones suck.
Commander Keen 4: Secret of the Oracle - I'm a big fan of the franchise. Played it numerous times.
Martian Memorandum - I've never even heard of this one, I'll check it out sometimes.
Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra - I've started this series from the fourth instalment, so I've never played this one.
Sir Meier's Civilization - My first Civ game was the second one, and I played the hell out of it, especially during the NATO bombing of my country. Ah, good times!
4-D Sports Boxing - I actually had this, but since I'm not a big fan of either boxing or early 3D, this was a hard pass for me.
Falcon 3.0 - Same, flight simulations were never my thing.
Volfied - I never played this one, but I played many similar games on arcade machines in which you open pictures of scantly clad ladies. Now that's incentive!
Pools of Darkness - I could never get into these old D&D games, the engine and graphics were much too archaic for my taste.
Wing Commander II: Vengeance of the Kilrathi - See Falcon 3.0
Supaplex - Strange, I've never considered Supaplex to be a Boulder Dash clone before, even though I now see it obviously is one. Anyway, it's a classic on its own rights, there are few PC owners who didn't own it and played it.
D/Generation - Never heard of this one either.
Gods - Whaaat, you don't like Gods??? Unlike, unsubscribe, unsend all the love letters I've sent you! Jokes aside, this was one of the first games I had on my PC, and the first one that could not only compare to the ones in the arcade, but was actually superior to most of them. Gods was Dark Souls before Dark souls, hugely exploration and secret-hunting driven, with tons of things to figure out. I actually managed to beat it once or twice as a kid, and I can get to the third or fourth world even now.
Planet's Edge: The Point of No Return - See Ultima - Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams
Lemmings - Loved it as a kid, and replayed it (and the sequel) quite recently. A true classic!
Gunship 2000 - See Falcon 3.0
Leisure Suit Larry 1: In the Land of Lounge Lizards - I didn't like the early LSL games because of the engine and some of design choices, and really got into them only from the sixth part. BUT! I've played the relatively new remake of this game, Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded, and I recommend it to everyone, it updates the graphics to a cartoon level standard while keeping all the charm of the original
Commander Keen 5: The Armageddon Machine - Loved it the same as the others, which is to say a lot.
I get what you're saying about Another World. I've tried recording it for this video but had to give up, as I was failing so often, and so early, that getting any kind of a usable footage was impossible. And I remember being rather decent at it back in the day. xD
You liked worms? Well, Worms 2 Armageddon will be in the next Early Windows 1999 video. :)
Have you played the latest Monkey Island game? The one that came out last year?
The combat in Pools of Darkness, and other Goldbox games is just so much more fun and closer to AD&D than any of the first person games of the time. If you ever decide to give them a go, it may be worth your time. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I love Monkey Island 1-3, almost equally, but I didn't like any of the ones that came after, including the newest one. I really disliked the graphic style and the modern writing.
@@b0gster I could defend the modern Monkeys as they're really not bad at all, but I can't argue with the classics being much much better. :)
I loved this year for gaming
Oh, it was chuck full of fun, that's for sure! :)
Man, I had forgotten how primitive Civilization 1 looked. My rose-tinted glasses had upscaled it to at least twice as pretty
It's a lot of fun though, and VERY fast as compared to modern outings. :)
I swear to God Scorched Earth was before 91...
Great video. I think another worst of videogames might be a great follow up lol
As in when I'm done with the series, I should do the same but worst games by year?
Ultima serie for my me, eye of beholder 1 & 2, x-com, wing commander 2 et 3, mechwarrior 2...
Excellent choices! Though the video was for 1991 only. I have similar videos covering all other years too. So you may wanna check them out. :)
I am looking for a dos arcade game that the character is 2 eyeballs. do you guys have any idea ?
Is your character eyeballs throughout the entire game or just occasionally? Also what's the view point? Top down, isometric, side view? And genre? Theme? Sci-fi, fantasy, urban, something else? Anything else that you could share about it will be helpful.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames No, it's throughout the entire game. I remember that i played this DOS game in around the year 2000 as a kid. the character is just 2 eyeballs, you collect items that look like lollipops, and the enemies are moving rectangles with just dot eyes (they are similar to the yellow boxes with dot eyes in super mario world but they have different color). the game had only 10 stages. the stages and gameplay were somewhat similar to "donkey kong" (DOS game). the graphics were much better and the structures that constitute the stages were green and had brick-like patterns. you could also build custom stages. i remember the name of the game in my PC was "construct" but i belive that's not the real name bc other games in my PC for some reason had false names as well. and i could not find any DOS game that has that name anyway. i searched in the internet and i found all my childhood DOS games except this game.
A lot of these games were also on Amiga and with better sound and graphics!
Agreed. :)
Just year before i jumped on to my first PC, at that time i was on Atari 600XL...
and man did i make right choice, for one thing DOS was perfect for my kid mind and for another i am very keen on learning about games of the era since i feel the most nostalgic for nearly entire 90s DOS.
Another World and Flashback both had me stomped and i never finished either hmmm i may have to man up and revisit them. afterall the eternal castle was glorious so maybe my brain CAN now manage to deal with both game's puzzles?
quick scan of games i own did reveal both martian dreams and several games in space quest (as well as king's quest) tho for reasons mentioned in the SQ part i never finished a single one, martian dreams i am not sure why never played much of. but it dose fall into era where its so tantalizingly close to me grasping it and yet just out of reach. you see i am simpleton and can deal with darkstone for example for a while i just cna not finish it because i am still too incompetent, but when things get too complex i feel stumped. (i also have way too may dungeon games and role playing games to pick through if i feel the want to so dont play things too complex... kinda think now i SHOULD challange myself hmm.
Ouf and i only have the first Elvira game, with heavy heart i will have to add this beauty's second game to my wishlist ... er for research you udnerstand .P
Oh yayy suppaplex! i did not know about boulderdash in 91 and i was fascinated by supaplex. its good game and has rather distinct graphics. lovely reminder of gooden times .)
1'991 was FIRST lemmings? interesting i always thought it tracked to the year before. but yes the sense of hummour in that game and puzzle element meant that Team17 was thrusted on the map. and they wormed up to players too .) kinda sad that they were stuck into first lemmings and than worms games for a while but they did a glorious racing game (StuntGP) which i conssider one of my favourite semi-simulation games of all time. it is cry, crime and shame that they do not distribute it on GoG/Steam.
Oh man... Jump from 8bit Atari to PC must've felt like a huge leap. Like 2 or 3 generations at once. xD
From my experience, as much as puzzles in those classics (FB & AW) are easier, the arcade parts feel now more demanding. So it switched. xD
Yeah, yeah, yeah... We all like Elvira for science! ;)
Team 17 were amazing at the time, and then for many many many years they seemed to be laser focused on releasing more and more Worms, not all great, but all of them at full price. And only recently, in the last few years, they've started working on many different games, and back to their former self. Granted smaller games, that they mostly work on, are not as popular as some of the AAA games are, but generally speaking, they work on rather good stuff now.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames i have surprising amount of games that i THINK they produced or distributed or something.
Their GoG catalogue is rather odd, few throwbacks to some 90s games made interesting but also oddities like Greak a platformer of all things XD.
As avid fan of French studio "spiders" i rather have that tier of games made by people who love the game making and do good job every single time (i've yet to play bad game by them), it feels like spiders are following trajectory of Larian and are now on their divinity original sin tier with greedfall II (hope they too get shot at big time with something magnifficent).
I do appretiate T17 for many things but nothing comes even close (within their catalogue) to how much i love StuntsGP it is mad how well that fits into my skillset, or lack there of, and yet mkes me feel realy good at driving.
OBVIOUSLY Elvira's the woman of scientific miracles and deserves to be studied by generations past present and future .)
oki i will stop perving over pretty lady ... for now.
@@nameless5413 Oh, Greedfall is rather fun, I have it on my Steam Deck, and I really wanna do a full playthrough at some point. :) And have G2 on my wishlist too.
The audio of civ 1 in this video is better than ive ever heard. Can anyone tell me which settings were used here?
Roland MT-32 :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thank you!
@@dionvanhezewijk5390 Sure thing! :)
I don’t know Conquests of the Longbow? Seems less Robin Hood camp than screenshots may suggest?
Another World (AKA: Out of this World) is incredible, especially for it’s time. A testament to how beloved it is by everyone who’s played it is the fact that it’s been ported to anything that’ll run it, including a surprisingly good official (sort of) port to the Game Boy Advance that never released originally on cartridge but the ROM was “leaked” about 7 - 8 years ago. I’ve played it on a real GBA with a flash cart but I first played it on Amiga.
Speaking of ported to everything, Scorched Earth. 😄 It inspired so much, form shareware knockoffs to Worms & it’s so much fun multiplayer.
Space Quest IV looked gorgeous in it’s day & moving away from the text parser made it so much more playable for me but it still didn’t pull me in to be honest.
I have both Elvira games now & they’re quite good but I didn’t play them back in the day because Elvira just wasn’t a well known character over here.
I love Monkey Island 2… right up to the end. That (avoiding spoilers) throughly pissed me off.
Because PC gaming took longer to take off in the UK than the US we don’t quite have the same reverence for the Commander Keen games but I can appreciate them now.
I don’t know either of the “Martian” games you’ve highlighted here? Memorandum looks a bit clunky to play?
Mouse control? Stuff & nonsense, it’ll never catch on. 😄
4-D Sports boxing looks like a parody of early 3-D games but it’s surprisingly good & in spite of what some cinemas will tell you the 4th dimension is time, not being sprayed in the face with a light sprits of water.
Falcon 3.0 is another of those games I admire for how sophisticated it was but it’s just not for me as I prefer my arcade air combat games. Same for Gunship 2000.
I was going to say Volfied looks arcade perfect & then you said it.
Wing Commander II may not be the best in the series but it’s pretty darn good.
I think D/Generation’s pretty good for it’s day, even if it was a bit late for an isometric game.
Gods is a bit stiff playing but it was pretty good looking, especially for an Amiga game…
I’ve never heard of Plant’s Edge either, it looks very Star Trek inspired? Also I have to read stuff to play it?! 😄
Lemmings is another game where I risk catching hate for saying it but I got bored of it fairly quickly. Also it’s another I know mostly as an Amiga game.
I find all the Leisure Suit Larry games icky. Probably because I was raised by Christians.
‘91 was a great year for PC games, even if I hadn’t moved to PC at that point. Modularity meant PC hardware was pulling way ahead of the home micros that were still popular here in the UK but it wouldn’t be long before people started to move over. Great list, thanks! That was a fun video.
How close was Another World on GBA to the original? 1:1?
I'm gonna be honest with you here. I think I liked Scorched Tanks on Amiga more than Scorched Earth. Very similar, though the Amiga version was, well, better in my eyes.
I think most of Europe was either stuck on 8bit micros, or jumped onto Amiga or Atari ST, and that's why we're a little behind US in those classic releases. With some of them never reaching us "officially".
I share the sentiment about both simulations, and Gods. And yeah, there's a lot to read in Planet's Edge. But it's part of the fun in this one. And it's not like a lot a lot. Just a little a lot. xD
As usual, thanks for watching! :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames the GBA port of Another World is 1:1, it’s really impressive.
@@nicholsliwilson I'm gonna have to look it up :)
Comander keen was the bomb
A DOS PC classic indeed.
Aren’t all these titles better on the Amiga?? 😉
No. Some are. :)
I still Elvira1 was the more rounded wholesome expirience. The second and third studio can become boring
:)
I think you've got rose colored glasses about the Amiga being better in 1991, if we're talking about 1991 releases particularly.
I understand this seems like a subjective point, but this was the roughly the inflection point to the PC. By 1990 everything Amiga *could* go to PC, but the reverse was no longer true. 1990 was still a high point for the Amiga based on what was being released. In 1991 games were much more likely to be written for VGA on the PC, and the cross platform games were more likely, ported and lesser.
The Amiga still had a stronger collection of console-style action games because they weren't ported or ported well. And there were other important games that didn't move over.
But the critical 1991 PC games...man...let's do comparisons (and hopefully I finish this unlike the last couple). I know we're not throwing in the great Amiga titles, but I think this says a bit about the state of the Amiga.
Conquests of the Longbow: The Legend of Robin Hood: Makes it to Amiga the next year. I think this is very much one of the less important point and click Sierra games of the time, except maybe the mini-game tech is important (SQ IV uses the engine first). It doesn't lead anywhere, although it's arguably more popular than the game it essentially followed, Conquests of Camelot. This is not a statement on the quality of the game.
Eye of the Beholder II: Electric Boogaloo. Westwood stuffed out the first II eye games in one year, just like Cannon Films with Breakin' and Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo. The Amiga EotB2 hit in 1992, following the trend where DOS was the primary platform.
But if we're being fair, the important game is Dungeon Master, and that's a 1987(!) release on the Amiga's less successful identical twin, the ST. The Amiga release was 1988. Yes, Westwood did a great official D&D Dungeon Master clone, but I don't think the PC gets props for being ahead on EotB.
Out of this World / Another World / As the World Turns: I played this on the SNES the next year. To me this has always been an Amiga first game, but I can't establish the truth on this. Here's my problem: even as a kid, I always thought this game was more of a neat trick than an interesting game. It was an attempt to FMV without FMV. The canned timing required puts the game closer to Dragon's Lair than Prince of Persia or Flashback. I never loved it.
Scorched Earth: I have this weird thing with Scorched Earth because I KNOW it was the popular Artillery game before Worms tried to give Amiga hope in 1995. But there's another similar Artillery game with terrain deformation, Tank Wars, from 1990. I played Tank Wars before SE. SE was missing features and until Worms I was always chasing the dragon for Tank Wars (since I couldn't find it anymore.
Anyway, very DOS. The Dossiest of All Shareware.
Martian Dreams: The Amiga wouldn't get Ultima VI until next year and would never get the Worlds games. Of course, the reason why they wouldn't have ported the worlds games is that they weren't successful. I think this is a common problem with RPG engine spinoffs that aren't named "Icewind Dale". Even if they are good games (as is the case here) the audience doesn't connect. This wasn't a system seller at all in 1991.
Space Quest IV: The Important Sierra PC adventure game. Amiga a year later. Good luck with the Ice Rink.
Elvira II: I think reviewers now care more about Elvira II than in 1991. Sometimes people go back and see a game and it becomes something it wasn't at the time. I can't find sales stats to say anything specific and I'm sure it wasn't NOTHING, but I don't know that I put it anywhere essential. The game had serious problems. (But so does Space Quest IV's Ice Rink on any modern PC). Amiga next year (and Atari ST - I suspect this is only because it used an existing Horror/AdventureSoft engine). I wouldn't could it towards anybody, if I'm being fair.
Monkey Island 2: Arguments about the ending aside, super essential. Amiga...let me check...a year later.
Commander Keen 4: While CK IV might be archetypical, I'm not sure that any of the Romero/Unrelated Carmacks/Hall Apogee platformers are "essential" because they were factory making them. As a whole they might be essential. Very DOS, but this is the zone where DOS is trying its best to be like an Amiga.
Martian Memo: Essential, not on the Amiga. Maybe it could have ported with a minor downgrade, but a flagbearer for the non-cartoony PC adventures of the 1990's.
Might and Magic III: Not the most essential RPG, but it's important. Amiga next year. Even with something that isn't pushing the limits like MMIII, put he Amiga side by side and you see the tiny color drop between the systems.
Civilization: Did you know Sid started Civilization as a real time game? People bought PCs for this. Amiga next year - similar minor downgrade. I never bothered to play the game on Amiga, so I decided to do some research. In theory, these kinds of games would start to tax old Amigas and the 1992 Amiga version apparently was a slug. The game had to use the disk drive to swap to make up for the lack of memory.
4D Boxing: This game is really important to me because I learned a lot writing a util for it. Amiga Same Year! But I have reason to believe it ran terribly. It does not look nearly as good as DOS.
Falcon 3.0: The essential combat flight sim of the era. Spectrum Holobyte's Crowning Achievement. When you get to the heart of what the Amiga could not do, you have a game like Falcon 3.0. The Amiga could run Civ or 4D boxing with compromises. It could not run Falcon. Every part of the game was too much.
Volfied - not at all essential on PC. Arcade port that's Qix but Tatio didn't call it Qix for some reason. You can absolutely love it, and nothing against a Qix update, but it's anything but essential and it looks old for 1991 on the PC.
Pool of Darkness: A Gold Box game expert will have to tell me how this stacks up in the series. I find the Gold Box are much harder to play now. Amiga Next Year with Less Color.
WCII: Wing Commander, the game that launched 1000 space ships, would hit the Amiga the next year. WCII would not. WC runs brutally on many (most) Amiga systems while looking worse. I think Amiga players got kind of screwed when they tried to port something that should not have been ported. CD32 version seems to run better.
Supaplex - No, I'm not saying a new Boulder Dash is essential in 1991. I respect your right to be wacky, but you are wacky-wrong.
D/Generation. I don't know if it's essential. I didn't feel any groundswell at the time. Certainly saw the game. Amiga a year later. I really need to get more info since I've passed it up.
Gods - So you say you think the Amiga was the better system and you choose Gods? Weird. This is the PC. We don't care about The Bitmap Brothers.
In all seriousness, I think there's a bit too much passion around some of these releases, but it is hard as an American PC gamer coming from a different perspective. The game wasn't released until 1992 in the US and I doubt it was very common. In the US, not essential.
This is not to put a comment on the quality, just to say it's hard to put a finger on where it fits.
Planet's Edge: Very DOS. I don't know that this is at all essential. It fits into the zone of modestly inscrutable presentations that players will either feel or not feel.
Lemmings: The point for the Amiga here is that this release has no two player mode. This was the one thing in 1991 that I saw on an Amiga and said oooh...then I got the PC version and I was fine.
Gunship 2000: It's not Falcon 3.0, but the same logic applies. Except it did hit the Amiga in 1993? Really? It's an Amiga CD32 as well, specs say it would run on the 500...let's look.
So the game runs OK, certainly not as well as DOS. Not very pretty, but the low skyline of the helicopter sim means that Gunship 2000, all around, doesn't require nearly the power the Falcon 3.0 does.
But it is 2 years late on the Amiga.
LSL1: If any of the Sierra Re-releases are essential, I don't think it is LSL1. Probably next year's Police Quest Rerelease.
CK5: See CK4
Ok, what are you missing out on...modern MobyScore doesn't catch the Zeitgiest. I would drop at least 5 on your list, probably more.
Castles (Amiga next year)
F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter 2.0 (Amiga 1993 - maybe the same engine as Gunship 2000? This game was important)
Jones in the Fast Lane (Amiga never, if you want a Sierra cult classic)
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (Amiga Never, important Totally games sim)
Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective (Essential, never got Amiga CD32)
SimAnt (Amiga 1992. It's not good, but it's ubiquitous).
The Perfect General (I'm surprised this had a 1991 Amiga release. Very important to a certain crowd)
I could keep going on. There isn't this big collection of games in 1991 that mattered that was Amiga first. The Amiga had a solid backlog in 1991, but the new play was coming on the PC, and would arrive in lesser format on Amiga. The Amiga tech had passed its prime in important ways and would never recover.
I do not wish to say that you should not have loved your Amiga, or that people didn't have a blast in 1991. But it was always in the past at this point. Intrepid developers would work hard to make great gameplay, but it was with the caveat "and they did it on an Amiga!"
You know that I'm positive and root for the now dead underdog that the Amiga was. :) Also, if we're on the artillery-like games, Amiga's Scorched Tanks was my favourite version of the game, arguably bit better than Scorched Earth on PC. Oh, and I'm not following the suit of comparisons here, just thought I'd mention it here, as it was fun.
As much as the Civilization on the Amiga was not a slug at all, it was a nightmare to run if you didn't had at least 2MB of RAM. Cause if you didn't you had to go through the whole nearly 15-minutes long introduction, while the game created the World for you to play on. Even if it was supposed to be a game on Earth. And it couldn't be skipped, stopped, hastened. You had to sit through and watch it. Not to mention disk swapping for all the palace upgrades and such. It was annoying. xD
Also, I loved Jones in the Fastlane. Even if I played it years after its release and by a mistake, as I just kinda always overlooked it thinking it was some kind of an edutainment. :)
another world is one of the best platformer/adventure ever. But the Amiga version was better
Well yeah, I would agree that in 1991, in large majority Amiga gaming was superior to PC.
no timelines sadness....
Fixed :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames THX!
@@RedSkyWan It was supposed to be done earlier, but life happened, you know... ;)
Supaplex 👍👍
:D
Scorched earth.... tbh, I found Tank Wars to always be far superior.
Seriously? Oh well, I suppose that's what makes those online interactions special, we get to share experiences and opinions even if they are different. :)
33:08 "I never liked gods'"
Yeah, you mentioned you never cared much for religion ;)
That too. :)
This brings back wonderful memories 🤩
Modern games are running dry and aren't that good anymore 👎🏽
I'm glad you liked it :)
No sq1vga?
Sorry?
@OldAndNewVideoGames lol it's personal preference, but what I was surprised by objectively ia including qfg3 on the '92 video but not including qfg4 many would consider the greatest qfg game and one of the greatest Sierra games, though I also like qfg1 vga the same as shadows of darkness
Bro where is BLUES BROTHERS?
Missing? ;)
But seriously, shrinking the list of games to 25 titles per year was not easy, especially if I wanted to cover as many genres as possible
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Well if it wasn't for Commander Keen's EGA graphics, I'd not recall it but Blues Brothers was a great game deserving mention.
@@alp2ccc138 Good point :)
uhh supaplex.
:)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames best childhood.
Wow. You would need to have a ridiculous large 100 MB harddrive to play all those games, but nobody will ever produce a HDD with more than 20 MB. I m pretty sure that future games will focus more on Nintendos and Segas consoles. 🤣
Keep on it man! You do not only inform, you also make a time travel where we can join with you! Thumbs up 👍. Do you know if Zackmac. exist also as a VGA version? Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
Zak McKracken is an odd one. DOS had two versions. Both EGA, but one in "high resolution". As in not 640x480 but higher than what the original run in. FM Towns, Mac and Windows all got ports of the 256-colour version at some point, so if you look for this one, Windows may be the best way to go. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I mean VGA as the 256 colors.
@@pju28 Was there a pure DOS VGA version? I didn't know of it. I know of all the others though. Still, it's not that important, is it? What is though, is that it's a brilliant little adventure game. :) Scratch the "little".
@@OldAndNewVideoGames last time you wrote me about you Broken floppy drive .. the Channe „Mark fixes stuff“ search for the video Use a PC Floppy drive on a Commodore Amiga! Good tutorial. Hopefully it help you!
@@pju28 Thanks! I'll check it out!