Counter argument: I am going to use Rimworld logic here. Shepards age would be 28 (30) as her physical age is 28 but she has history over a period of 30 years Within this system, if a persons physical age is reversed via some technological feat (see warhammer 40,000 juvenant treatments or Rimworld biosculpting) the first number would go down while the second would not
I mean yes Shepard was brought back exactly as he was before death however that was mentally physically however Shepard had cybernetic and biological reconstruction at the same time we know Cerberus cloned shepard for compatible organ donors so it's highly likely most of the internal organs are not that of the original shepard Of all characters Jacob also said that when he saw Shepard he saw that Shepard was "meat in tubes" now that isn't exactly a good description because clearly the brain was in one piece to bring him back exactly as he was but anyway it is likely that bones that could not be reconstructed we're replaced with metal augmentation or even completely replaced Shepard if a biotic also received the latest L5 Implants mentally the same person but physically it's like Legion said it's The Ship Of Theseus argument at least for the body but even then Shepard was both legally and physically dead For 2 years give or take overall this question has many answers is Shepard 2? The body might as well have been brand new but the mind is that of 28 year old shepard so what do we base it off the mind or the body? Philosophy and genetic reconstruction is a difficult subject but it leads to interesting thoughts experiments I enjoyed just writing this dribble so feel free to ignore it I just started writing then I couldn't stop Shepard is such a fascinating character with that have a nice day
The problem we have here is that, by the comic's logic, Shepard has THREE separate ages at once. Chronologically 30 (with an asterisk). Biologically 28. *Technically* 2.
Well now hold on, from a medical perspective Shepard was revived after death. So she wasn't 'born' but merely healed. It's like when people are, technically, dead for five minutes but are revived. The only difference is the length of time. If you are medically dead for a minute but get brought back your age does not 'reset'
@@TheIllusiveMan11 Well we need to establish how long you can be medically dead before you're considered for-real, no-take-backsies DEAD. After that point, surely the Lazarus project basically built a *copy* of Shepard using some original materials? Jacob does say you're "little more than meat in tubes" at the start of that process.
This is the kind of situation where you'd just write "see attached documentation" and rivet a massive stack of medical and legal papers to the document.
Sheppard: How old am I? Mordin: Fascinating question. Chronilogical age. 31.6 galactic standard years. Medically speaking. Cereberus resurrection placed significant strain on the body decreasing anticipated life span by 5 to 10 years. In a sense, artificially increasing age. Wrex: 12? Or is it 70? Bah, I don't know how you aliens age.
Stick down 30, she is closer to retirement and all its benefits. If you go through timey whiny nonsense, just pick the big number and hope for a free bus pass.
@@jorvach9874Shep basically is already in early retirement at the start of ME3. Definitely not a stretch to say they'd still be retired if it weren't for Harbinger so rudely interrupting.
Well, I still think it would be 30 medically speaking, too. Her body would've had to have been recovered soon after her death. That way, she was still recoverable. Then she also seems to have been in a more of a coma state during the beginning of Mass Effect 2 so she may have still aged to some degree during that time so I would honestly say 30 or maybe 29 would be a more reasonable choice.
30. In the Halo franchise, soldiers go into cryo stasis all the time, where their body doesn't physically age and are (medically speaking) dead. They continue off of their chronological age. For ME, officially, Shepard was dead for 2 years. However, for paperwork and legal reasons, it can be treated like a coma, and go off of their chronological age.
@@damobeck1halo probably does Mass effect can get you across the galaxy in at the very most a week, they don't have cryosleep as a baseline for it to work from
The math seems pretty easy to me. Shepherd pre-ME2 'died' at 28, post-ME2 Shepherd is only 2, but since she's still very much the same person one would think you'd go ahead and add them together. So on an official document, I'd put thirty but add an asterisk just to be on the safe side. Either way, I love these slice-of-life comics featuring these two, keep them coming!
And now Shepard breaks databases by being 30* years old. Which could mean 30, 301, 3099 or anything else that begins with 30. And given the lifespans of Asari (up to 1000) and Krogan (literally cannot die of old age) as well as cryostasis technology existing in the setting, none of the numbers can be dismissed as obviously invalid for being too big. So she'll start getting ads for Asari that are transitioning from Maiden to Matron stage, as well as those targeted at Krogan Rachni War veterans.
@@martenkahr3365 Krogan CAN die of old age, but due to how they typically live for conflict, it's hard to tell HOW OLD one can get before death of natural causes.
Shepard: "And this is Garrus, he's dating a two-year-old!" Garrus: "Damn it, Honey, we talked about this!" Shepard: "I know but you're cute when you're flustered."
it's nice that mass effect can give people like you experiences you'd never have in real life, like finding someone willing to have multiple conversations with you.
30, the legal entity was born and recorded at that point and continued to exist up until the current time. Being dead or frozen or whatever doesn't change the start of recording of your existence. I'm in a similar boat. My bones liver and kidneys look decades older than me, and my blood is significantly younger than me thanks to chemo and transplant.
Technically the only answer you need to give is the one C-Sec is going to want, rather than the truth. However, this probably means that clone shepard is also angry about trying to figure out that answer. Since they were cloned off a 28 year old woman at the time or so.
@@bestaround3323Then don't get into any cryopods, interact with any time portals[chronological age etc], hibernate in any form period actually, don't get bit by any supernatural creatures [second birthday y'see], make any fae bargains [mixed bag], become a wizard [For obvious reasons.] or really dabble in any magic functionally. [Wizard years vs biological age.] Or in other words, you aren't allowed to have fun.
It's been a while, but I don't think most people know Shep was revived and the official explanation is that they were working undercover and had to fake their death. So, Shep arguing over their age may be the PERFECT answer to "are they really Shep", because it reveals they know something that an imposter would not.
consciousness continuity. The "ship" is irrelevant. The body doesn't matter, the person inside it does. Since present Shepherd is clearly the same Shepherd as before the death, the new body is irrelevant.
Starcraft presented the same problem with Purefier Fenix, a recreation of original Fenix with an accuracy of 99.99% The dilemma asked by the characters in universe is, in a Life time, how many decisions would that 0.01% affect? Are we the sum of our memories and decision or is there an unknown element?
@@camferg99 I disagree, tbh. Shepard doesn't have some AI in her head like a Cybran would or anything like that. More accurately, the Lazarus Project *_metacontextually rebuilt her brain like as if it was a Lego set._* -Granted, her clone was why they had "spare parts..."-
@@Dan-zc3ouI’d say 0.01% changes whether I buy brown socks or black socks or whether I score a 96.2% or a 97% on a test. How the universe responds to that is a different matter. Or it might change something ever so slight that would be already in variation on a day to day basis like how fast my hair grows
Let’s add fuel to the fire. Since aging is the degradation of body, how old would she be biologically. Even ignoring the cloned tissue, we have no idea if the biological components were rejuvenated or aged by the revival process and the damage. Otherwise she’s 28 as that is how long she has been alive. (Assuming she’s the original.) Legally she is probably 30, since I presume there haven’t been previous cases of resurrection. Oh great, they have stasis technology, so legal situation might be more complicated.
not to mention, if we go by the legal age, that could brew up a whole slew of problems down the line, having 4-year olds put into stasis by black-market dealers and thawing them once they pass the "legal age". so in all cases, i think age should be how long one has been biologically active (this includes being awake and asleep/coma) if biological (or bio-mechanical) functions cease due to stasis or death (or time travel), then the age no longer counts until the functions resume. thus for this debate, she should put down that she is 28 years old.
@@librariantopokemon ACTUALLY... that's pretty fair point and i now considering adding it to my lore but the problem now is: "how do i explain it so it is not weird"🤔
Love the comic joke debate... thought I think with Cryogen you get marked at the age you were put into the ice machine. so 28 would be the answer on the form... 30 if you are filling out a form where being 30 costs more than being 28 because that is how taxes and annoying forms works out.
She's 28 biologically, but her birthday is still the same so on all documents she's 30 and that's what matters. She could've been revived a hundred years later and she'd have to put down that she's 128 and everyone would have to take that at face value lmao
Correct answer. C-Sec isn't looking for philosophy, they're looking to compare whatever the subject (Shep) writes against the answers they have on record.
In Rimworld, the game displays both the Chronological and biological age for the pawns. Ex: 34(168) years So shepherd could just put their age in there like that
The whole 'being dead' thing is actually a really good point. As shepard was clinically dead for at least a significant part of that time and we literally do not know what the lazarus project did because it was medical technology beyond anything else in the setting
Going with the Ship of Theseus analogy there is a third option. It doesnt matter how many parts are original or even if every part has been exchanged aslong as the crews experiences are of this ship no matter in what incarnation it will always be the same ship. So for Shepard with memories of her life spanning 28 years she will be 28 no matter if her body is technically 30 or 2
>Never been dead myself....Well, about that....he hasn't been dead for 2 years is what Im saying, the other part...well... Dude legit took a rocket to the face, only he got better
I'd say she's 28. She was time-displaced. She died, and then woke up 2 years later. For me, this reminds me of all those who disappeared from Thanos' snap, during Infinity War. And while they seem like two different things, for Shepherd, they feel pretty much the same. For her, she likely can remember the attack on Normandy 1 like it was just the other day. She might remember conversations she had with Pressly the day they died. So yeah, for her she time traveled 2 years to the future. She's 28.
In a bureaucratic sense, I would use the original birthday if you’re considered the same legal entity. Imagine having to explain the reason and having forms and apple rejected because of a perceived clerical error
She’s two years old, with the maturity of a 28-year-old, living 30 years after the original was born. If I take my dad’s old Beatles cassette tape, scan it into my computer, and burn the audio to a CD, the CD doesn’t instantly become 30 years old because that’s how old the tape was, nor does it become 60 years old because that’s when the songs were written.
Now we also got the new issue on rather or not he lived or got revived during the events of the end of ME3, moving into ME4… don’t know Shep’s status in ME4, but we know we got Liara and we are 500+ years further into the future…
Bureaucrats aren't really going to know the context as to why Shepard would put her age as 28, when on paper she should be 30. Unfortunately you have to think of the taxman when making these decisions.
I would say for this spesific instance she should put down 30. The space IRS only cares about cross-referencing your birth year, not how many of those you’ve been dead.
Legion missed another chance for a Mathematician's Answer at 1:16 Shepard: "Legion, If I have to put down my age in a legal form, do I put 28 or 30?" Legion: "Yes."
28 is the correct answer, but I think C-Sec wants to hear 30. Explaining to them the Lazarus stuff would just open a new can of worms. … Just think of all the bureaucracy that would follow it **shudder**
Ya, would have put it like 30, 28, 2. Just to cover all bases. My Destiny character is 500+, 9, and possibly 2 as well. I had a LOT of time to come up with an answer.
Wasn't there a comment by a C-Sec officer about people faking death to avoid taxation? From a purely legal standpoint, chronological age would come first so that backpay and other financial forms could remain applicable.
30, even if parts of her were dead at the time. It’s the same thing as a coma patient. During the two years of reconstruction she was still aging. Also, as far as I know, nothing in Shepherd was replaced per se more enhanced As long as the brain itself is still the original organ, I count that as being the same product
I could already imagine it: Joker and Garrus are hanging out near C-Sec and Joker mentions how Garrus is dating a two year old near a bunch of C-Sec officers as a cruel joke. The C-Sec officers immediately turn their heads towards Garrus, now flustered as he tries to explain. For comedy, let's say a couple officers raise their guns before Shepard shows up.
There has to be a legal definition of age that applies to those forms. Honestly, most sites just ask your for your Date of Birth and do basic math on it.
Twenty-eight, Project Lazarus was about bringing back Shepard EXACTLY as she was, therefore twenty-eight
Counter argument:
I am going to use Rimworld logic here.
Shepards age would be 28 (30) as her physical age is 28 but she has history over a period of 30 years
Within this system, if a persons physical age is reversed via some technological feat (see warhammer 40,000 juvenant treatments or Rimworld biosculpting) the first number would go down while the second would not
Counter argument 29
I mean yes Shepard was brought back exactly as he was before death however that was mentally physically however Shepard had cybernetic and biological reconstruction at the same time we know Cerberus cloned shepard for compatible organ donors so it's highly likely most of the internal organs are not that of the original shepard
Of all characters Jacob also said that when he saw Shepard he saw that Shepard was "meat in tubes" now that isn't exactly a good description because clearly the brain was in one piece to bring him back exactly as he was but anyway it is likely that bones that could not be reconstructed we're replaced with metal augmentation or even completely replaced
Shepard if a biotic also received the latest L5 Implants mentally the same person but physically it's like Legion said it's The Ship Of Theseus argument at least for the body but even then Shepard was both legally and physically dead For 2 years give or take overall this question has many answers is Shepard 2? The body might as well have been brand new but the mind is that of 28 year old shepard so what do we base it off the mind or the body?
Philosophy and genetic reconstruction is a difficult subject but it leads to interesting thoughts experiments I enjoyed just writing this dribble so feel free to ignore it I just started writing then I couldn't stop Shepard is such a fascinating character with that have a nice day
Legally still 30 but medically 28 so they have to put a note on medical records
Well, not exactly. The extensive cybernetic upgrades were new, for instance.
The problem we have here is that, by the comic's logic, Shepard has THREE separate ages at once.
Chronologically 30 (with an asterisk).
Biologically 28.
*Technically* 2.
Well now hold on, from a medical perspective Shepard was revived after death. So she wasn't 'born' but merely healed. It's like when people are, technically, dead for five minutes but are revived. The only difference is the length of time. If you are medically dead for a minute but get brought back your age does not 'reset'
@@TheIllusiveMan11it does if you're not a coward
So "Technically" anyone that romances Shepard after the collector attack should be in prison is what you're saying.
@@TheIllusiveMan11 Well we need to establish how long you can be medically dead before you're considered for-real, no-take-backsies DEAD.
After that point, surely the Lazarus project basically built a *copy* of Shepard using some original materials? Jacob does say you're "little more than meat in tubes" at the start of that process.
i think its more the fact that shepard was more a less rebuild from the ground up aka reborn@@TheIllusiveMan11
This is the kind of situation where you'd just write "see attached documentation" and rivet a massive stack of medical and legal papers to the document.
that's it, this comment wins. congrats, you won the "internet funny man award"
Sheppard: How old am I?
Mordin: Fascinating question. Chronilogical age. 31.6 galactic standard years. Medically speaking. Cereberus resurrection placed significant strain on the body decreasing anticipated life span by 5 to 10 years. In a sense, artificially increasing age.
Wrex: 12? Or is it 70? Bah, I don't know how you aliens age.
Favorite answer.
I just pictured Mordin and Wrex’s voices reading this
Stick down 30, she is closer to retirement and all its benefits.
If you go through timey whiny nonsense, just pick the big number and hope for a free bus pass.
I think if Shep has earned an early retirement regardless of their age, lol! :D
@@jorvach9874Shep basically is already in early retirement at the start of ME3. Definitely not a stretch to say they'd still be retired if it weren't for Harbinger so rudely interrupting.
Well, I still think it would be 30 medically speaking, too. Her body would've had to have been recovered soon after her death. That way, she was still recoverable. Then she also seems to have been in a more of a coma state during the beginning of Mass Effect 2 so she may have still aged to some degree during that time so I would honestly say 30 or maybe 29 would be a more reasonable choice.
Garrus: I’m not the type to beg, but-
Shepard: Good to know I can make you beg, Garrus ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
this is why you are forever single.
@@TheEvilCheesecake 😭
"We'll bang, ok?"
And from that day forward, Shepherd would always introduce yourself as a two-year-old
Well, at least until she turned three the following year.
The galaxy's youngest specter.
30. In the Halo franchise, soldiers go into cryo stasis all the time, where their body doesn't physically age and are (medically speaking) dead. They continue off of their chronological age. For ME, officially, Shepard was dead for 2 years. However, for paperwork and legal reasons, it can be treated like a coma, and go off of their chronological age.
And that’s why you separate that on the future paperwork.
@@damobeck1halo probably does
Mass effect can get you across the galaxy in at the very most a week, they don't have cryosleep as a baseline for it to work from
@@theirishviking9278ahem..... Sorry to bring that in, but in Andromeda there is cryosleep
@@Valerkos93 and it was made specifically for that trip
Prior to that gane cryosleep was never mentioned
@@theirishviking9278damn... Didn't saw the healthy conversation for a long time. Thanks for showing me, how it should be done))
The math seems pretty easy to me. Shepherd pre-ME2 'died' at 28, post-ME2 Shepherd is only 2, but since she's still very much the same person one would think you'd go ahead and add them together. So on an official document, I'd put thirty but add an asterisk just to be on the safe side. Either way, I love these slice-of-life comics featuring these two, keep them coming!
And now Shepard breaks databases by being 30* years old. Which could mean 30, 301, 3099 or anything else that begins with 30. And given the lifespans of Asari (up to 1000) and Krogan (literally cannot die of old age) as well as cryostasis technology existing in the setting, none of the numbers can be dismissed as obviously invalid for being too big. So she'll start getting ads for Asari that are transitioning from Maiden to Matron stage, as well as those targeted at Krogan Rachni War veterans.
@@martenkahr3365XD
How about “28+2”?
@@martenkahr3365 Krogan CAN die of old age, but due to how they typically live for conflict, it's hard to tell HOW OLD one can get before death of natural causes.
Shepard: "And this is Garrus, he's dating a two-year-old!"
Garrus: "Damn it, Honey, we talked about this!"
Shepard: "I know but you're cute when you're flustered."
it's nice that mass effect can give people like you experiences you'd never have in real life, like finding someone willing to have multiple conversations with you.
Now he is on the list.
@TheEvilCheesecake name checks out.
You're cold bro. Cold and ruthless.
@@TheEvilCheesecake I swear I've seen you before but i have no idea where
Pretty sure he will be on THAT list.
RIP Garrus Vakarian, you'll be missed.
30, the legal entity was born and recorded at that point and continued to exist up until the current time. Being dead or frozen or whatever doesn't change the start of recording of your existence. I'm in a similar boat. My bones liver and kidneys look decades older than me, and my blood is significantly younger than me thanks to chemo and transplant.
You take the blood of the youth to restore your longevity. A cancer vampire
@@saldol9862 Cancer vampire? That's just Deadpool
Technically the only answer you need to give is the one C-Sec is going to want, rather than the truth.
However, this probably means that clone shepard is also angry about trying to figure out that answer. Since they were cloned off a 28 year old woman at the time or so.
My age should not be a freaking multiple choice
@@bestaround3323Then don't get into any cryopods, interact with any time portals[chronological age etc], hibernate in any form period actually, don't get bit by any supernatural creatures [second birthday y'see], make any fae bargains [mixed bag], become a wizard [For obvious reasons.] or really dabble in any magic functionally. [Wizard years vs biological age.]
Or in other words, you aren't allowed to have fun.
It's been a while, but I don't think most people know Shep was revived and the official explanation is that they were working undercover and had to fake their death. So, Shep arguing over their age may be the PERFECT answer to "are they really Shep", because it reveals they know something that an imposter would not.
Garrus be like: "I'M GOING TO JAIL!!!!"
consciousness continuity.
The "ship" is irrelevant. The body doesn't matter, the person inside it does.
Since present Shepherd is clearly the same Shepherd as before the death, the new body is irrelevant.
But is it, or merely the collection of same memories. It's time to Prestige this shit.
if such is the case, then the "Shepherd" in this case is a simulated approximation of the original ME1 Shepherd based on their salvaged memories
Starcraft presented the same problem with Purefier Fenix, a recreation of original Fenix with an accuracy of 99.99%
The dilemma asked by the characters in universe is, in a Life time, how many decisions would that 0.01% affect?
Are we the sum of our memories and decision or is there an unknown element?
@@camferg99
I disagree, tbh. Shepard doesn't have some AI in her head like a Cybran would or anything like that.
More accurately, the Lazarus Project *_metacontextually rebuilt her brain like as if it was a Lego set._*
-Granted, her clone was why they had "spare parts..."-
@@Dan-zc3ouI’d say 0.01% changes whether I buy brown socks or black socks or whether I score a 96.2% or a 97% on a test. How the universe responds to that is a different matter.
Or it might change something ever so slight that would be already in variation on a day to day basis like how fast my hair grows
PLEASE THIS IS MY FAVORITE MASS EFFECT COMIC 😂
Let’s add fuel to the fire. Since aging is the degradation of body, how old would she be biologically. Even ignoring the cloned tissue, we have no idea if the biological components were rejuvenated or aged by the revival process and the damage. Otherwise she’s 28 as that is how long she has been alive. (Assuming she’s the original.) Legally she is probably 30, since I presume there haven’t been previous cases of resurrection. Oh great, they have stasis technology, so legal situation might be more complicated.
not to mention, if we go by the legal age, that could brew up a whole slew of problems down the line, having 4-year olds put into stasis by black-market dealers and thawing them once they pass the "legal age".
so in all cases, i think age should be how long one has been biologically active (this includes being awake and asleep/coma)
if biological (or bio-mechanical) functions cease due to stasis or death (or time travel), then the age no longer counts until the functions resume.
thus for this debate, she should put down that she is 28 years old.
@@librariantopokemon ACTUALLY... that's pretty fair point and i now considering adding it to my lore but the problem now is: "how do i explain it so it is not weird"🤔
Awesome slice of life, also funny conversation.
Best female shepard ship ♡
Love the comic joke debate... thought I think with Cryogen you get marked at the age you were put into the ice machine. so 28 would be the answer on the form... 30 if you are filling out a form where being 30 costs more than being 28 because that is how taxes and annoying forms works out.
1:55 space FBI: FREEZE DIRT BAG!!
She's 28 biologically, but her birthday is still the same so on all documents she's 30 and that's what matters. She could've been revived a hundred years later and she'd have to put down that she's 128 and everyone would have to take that at face value lmao
Correct answer. C-Sec isn't looking for philosophy, they're looking to compare whatever the subject (Shep) writes against the answers they have on record.
Ahh the ship of theseus returns. Also LOVE seeing Mass Effect Comics so thanks for this lovely blast from the past!
My ex gf technically just turned 4... but please consider that she was born on February 29.
I can see why she's your ex now
I never knew that mass effect comic dubs existed
legion is a precious bean and trying their best
In Rimworld, the game displays both the Chronological and biological age for the pawns.
Ex: 34(168) years
So shepherd could just put their age in there like that
The whole 'being dead' thing is actually a really good point. As shepard was clinically dead for at least a significant part of that time and we literally do not know what the lazarus project did because it was medical technology beyond anything else in the setting
she is all of them at the same time.
2, 28 & 30.
Considering how much of a massive dork both of these characters are, this feels like an actual debate they’d have
pretty sure that pile of meat and tubes was still aging
Aww, he knows her birthday!
28, lazarus was about bringing her back EXACTLY as she was.
Going with the Ship of Theseus analogy there is a third option. It doesnt matter how many parts are original or even if every part has been exchanged aslong as the crews experiences are of this ship no matter in what incarnation it will always be the same ship. So for Shepard with memories of her life spanning 28 years she will be 28 no matter if her body is technically 30 or 2
>Never been dead myself....Well, about that....he hasn't been dead for 2 years is what Im saying, the other part...well... Dude legit took a rocket to the face, only he got better
Humanity has stasis pods and used skeeper ship. They most definiteky legally decided this issue already.
The calculation being done for the rotation of the sun = 1 day to 356 days = 1 year and then taking the human year count of 2185 is fucking good
I'd say she's 28. She was time-displaced. She died, and then woke up 2 years later.
For me, this reminds me of all those who disappeared from Thanos' snap, during Infinity War. And while they seem like two different things, for Shepherd, they feel pretty much the same.
For her, she likely can remember the attack on Normandy 1 like it was just the other day. She might remember conversations she had with Pressly the day they died. So yeah, for her she time traveled 2 years to the future.
She's 28.
In a bureaucratic sense, I would use the original birthday if you’re considered the same legal entity. Imagine having to explain the reason and having forms and apple rejected because of a perceived clerical error
One cannot age while being dead, Shepard is still 28.
Count the two years she was dead as though she was in a coma.
Welp, that's a confusing scenario in the comic, yet hilarious to watch
Garrus no! You just gave her valuable ammo to tease you with!
This is even more complicated than figuring out Javik's age
I think we learnt how to cheat death. Just embrace it, and one day be revived so you can claim your 3 different sets of ages. Perfect. 😂
Every time she asks a question, she just gets more questions. The mobius strip from hell!
I LOVE Shepard’s last line, she sounds SO pissed off at the idea she is back to being a toddler in terms of legal age 😂🤣
If Isaac Clarke was there he would just be drawing Marker models because of his insanity
Yeah that would require some consultation with a lawyer type person to figure out the correct answer
Great dub work! The effect for Legion was a nice touch, too.
You know what they say. Age is just a number.
She’s two years old, with the maturity of a 28-year-old, living 30 years after the original was born.
If I take my dad’s old Beatles cassette tape, scan it into my computer, and burn the audio to a CD, the CD doesn’t instantly become 30 years old because that’s how old the tape was, nor does it become 60 years old because that’s when the songs were written.
30. Dead or otherwise, Shepard existed for those two years, so thus 30 years from original birth date
I love legion, they are amazing.
It should count as 30, with the years being dead being counted as a coma.
Legality has a preference for calendar age, rather than physical age
People will talk about Shepard’s ages and etc.
But I’ll speak that how cool Garrus’s voice been made. Very close to the original one.
O k that last bit of the conversation Caught me off guard 😂😂😂
You would think there would be legal presidence for anomalies such as cryostasis, time dilation, or periods of clinical death.
Now we also got the new issue on rather or not he lived or got revived during the events of the end of ME3, moving into ME4… don’t know Shep’s status in ME4, but we know we got Liara and we are 500+ years further into the future…
Bureaucrats aren't really going to know the context as to why Shepard would put her age as 28, when on paper she should be 30.
Unfortunately you have to think of the taxman when making these decisions.
this is a really good video, i will come back for more
"Spending a year dead is a popular tax dodge."
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1:11 Garrus is as adorable as a curious kitten
Okay, this was both hilarious and on point. Nice work! 😂
I would say for this spesific instance she should put down 30. The space IRS only cares about cross-referencing your birth year, not how many of those you’ve been dead.
Good job on this! I particularly like feminine-sounding Legion. Despite the different tone, they're still totally in character.
Eh. Not bad, but Legion should have just had male & female voices overlayed equally
This is really cool
Legion missed another chance for a Mathematician's Answer at 1:16
Shepard: "Legion, If I have to put down my age in a legal form, do I put 28 or 30?"
Legion: "Yes."
30. Since it’s a legal form, it’s asking for your calendar age.
30 for legal reasons. 28 biologically.
28 is the correct answer, but I think C-Sec wants to hear 30.
Explaining to them the Lazarus stuff would just open a new can of worms.
… Just think of all the bureaucracy that would follow it **shudder**
I’d say 28; she is more or less “starting over” right before she died, appearance and therefore age wise.
I'd go with coma logic and say she's 30, but if I wanted to be fun I'd say she's two.
Am I the only one who gets ASMR tingles from calculating mumbling? 😅
Legally speaking it doesn’t matter if you’ve aged you’re still 30
November 4th? Hell nah that's mine birthday
I would be calling a lawyer
Shepard can put 28 because they're Commander Shepard hero of the citadel
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Ya, would have put it like 30, 28, 2. Just to cover all bases. My Destiny character is 500+, 9, and possibly 2 as well. I had a LOT of time to come up with an answer.
Wasn't there a comment by a C-Sec officer about people faking death to avoid taxation? From a purely legal standpoint, chronological age would come first so that backpay and other financial forms could remain applicable.
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2 years old, because it's funny
I never thought of it like that
Considering this is for a legal document then it would be 30 as the document would most likely only account for the calendar year.
I feel that future government would only care about the birth certificate.
From a legal standpoint, 30 would be easier on paperwork.
30, even if parts of her were dead at the time. It’s the same thing as a coma patient. During the two years of reconstruction she was still aging.
Also, as far as I know, nothing in Shepherd was replaced per se more enhanced
As long as the brain itself is still the original organ, I count that as being the same product
28 & 30. If they ask, tell them.
I'd think an official document would just ask your date of birth & go from there.
I could already imagine it:
Joker and Garrus are hanging out near C-Sec and Joker mentions how Garrus is dating a two year old near a bunch of C-Sec officers as a cruel joke. The C-Sec officers immediately turn their heads towards Garrus, now flustered as he tries to explain. For comedy, let's say a couple officers raise their guns before Shepard shows up.
And the fact that the customs officer jokes that people (all species) often fake their deaths for tax purposes
So id say its safer just to ask Miranda
I mean with all the time-y whime-y bs I’d just-WAIT I’M THE SAME AGE AS SHEPARD!
What the fuck am I doing with my life?
Oh my god i cant believe such a reputable C-Sec officer such as Garrus Vakarian is dating a 2 year old. Smh my head
Becouse 2 years is such a small time I think legally it should be 30
There has to be a legal definition of age that applies to those forms.
Honestly, most sites just ask your for your Date of Birth and do basic math on it.
2:24 Her soul is still the same & it didn’t stop existing for 2 years so she’s 30. It’s just like when someone is in a coma.
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