I've heard this saying and have seen it in action, but at the same time, there is plenty I haven't understood and did not fear. I just tried to understand it so I could learn. I suppose this was a huge issue for me as I was growing up, and it caused quite a bit of frustration.
@@nikiyikes5674 We've all experienced this from what I gather. School is more about compliance than actual learning. What makes INTJ's different is we challenge things that aren't fundamentally well grounded. I've come to an understanding regarding the ways of the world, (that it's the world that is flawed). The world transforms people into wage, and debt slaves to fill corporate positions, as wage and debt slaves involved in consumerism. The powers don't want independent, successful, creative, critical thinkers that are not easily controlled, and will challenge the system. When we don't comply, we get labeled, and publicly humiliated. I don't feel bad for not being sheepish, nor for going against the grain. Our struggle makes us who we are, and I wouldn't change that. If more people opposed the ways of the world, it would be a better place. I know your struggle. Check out the film -Pink Floyd "The Wall".
always shocking to hear that grown ups bully kids. I think almost all of the time its never the child but the parents and the social environment that cant adapt to the needs of the child, sorry all that happened to you
I understand what you mean. When I was a kid, I never understood why my 'peers' were so cavalier, so reckless, so shortsighted. I grew up on my grandpa's cattle ranch, so I was expected, needed to help with ranch chores, driving heavy machinery, riding horses, working cattle in chutes, etc. all potentially dangerous activities. Yet, unlike many of my peers who also grew up on ranches, I never got severely injured. I had what my sister jokingly called 'spidey sense'. I could usually predict when something bad was likely to happen or about to happen and take steps to prevent it or avoid it. I figured out safer ways to do things, sometimes even without an adult helping me do so.
well i think telling a story about your childhood and it is very touching i would say I am an INTJ myself and i had a lot of this things happen to me :)
The never ending quest to answer, "why?" I suspect that many INTJ's do a lot of this questing in their formative years. They look into that big pool of intuition (Ni) for answers b/c it's safe and maybe not easily understood, but comprehensive and thorough in answering the question. They get a large satisfying answer from the inverted world, an answer they couldn't find anywhere else.
I like how 99% of INTJ videos are like: *Delivered in cold calm anger "everyone is stupid, but they don't know it, they all pushed me around, and now...... now...... ugh.....*exhales more hate *Video ends"
I hope it stops bugging you when morons come out of the woodwork to tell you who you are or how you are supposed to be. They are just small minds with big mouths and the people on their level are the only ones that are buying into it. They don't see nuance, they regurgitate something they were instructed but never gave thought too. Oh and like in your other video, this story resonated. I just experienced it through my own lense, had different parts that people couldn't accept and was shaped differently by it. Thanks for sharing =]
I was fortunate in that, at age 5, a second child was born in the family and the attention went from me to that child. That is when I discovered I was free walk my own path, with little adult supervision or intrusion. All thru school I was the quiet loner, mostly invisible, and that was the way I wanted it. Sorry to hear you were surrounded by adults that not only didn't give you space, but actively opposed your very nature.
Being the quiet loner is what got me attention. Perhaps that's just the side effect of what's expected from females in the area I grew up in. I naturally rebelled against expectations I didn't even know existed at the time.
As an Se inferior myself I can resonate with this heavily. From the struggles with speech at a young age to being socially isolated (metaphorical and/or *literal, for years*) and often by choice. It is nice to hear a story that seems to have some similar parallels.
Se may be inferior, but at least we have it. I use it constantly. Being inferior, it's a bit clumsy. I feel like it takes me out of Ni a bit too much though. Half of personalities don't have Se at all. Te, and Se together really get things done.
Story of my life: people are so superficial they can't even fathom the infinite richness of this universe. When you try to explain anything to them, they don't believe you. They can't. They're not able. Even the slightest piece of Truth you try to tell them seems like whipping their faces with stinging nettles. So best to leave them to their freakin' small talk. Lucidity is but a curse in this day and age. Fortunately, each and every (new) video of yours is an enchantment. We need more (and more often). I wish there wasn't an ocean parting us, so the least I can do is sending you a thumb up and a warm, electronic hug. There
That was an excellent video. How it accurately described most of my own childhood. I was blamed for having allergies and teachers called me disruptive because I sneezed and blew my nose in class. Also I won every spelling bee in K-6, and it just was...expected....the hard work of studying never congratulated. And prior to Kindergarten, I was in this stupid home-based "preschool" at age 4 with a bunch of 3-year-olds, and I got in trouble for wanting to read (why else would it be pre-school and not baby-sitting?) instead of playing some stupid follow-the-other-children game with kids way too young for me. Then, adults really hated it when I began asking "why?" to so many things, primarily because they did not have the answers either, but they did not want to look stupid. Luckily this resulted in the adults buying me books I wanted! :)
I used to be a very werid kid, my mom thought I was retarded, personally I think it was more a behavior of a ADHD kid. I visited 2 psychologists before being 16, the second one used to make me cry often and I didn't like it because he had no idea about the difference between how I see my self and how people see me. He said I was not letting people enter in my life. I wasted 2 or 3 years working and avoiding school after that. Now I'm 24 and it appears to be that I'm the smartest guy in the classroom or at least that's what they say. I still don't have many friends, and they don't fully understand me, but they try. It was a bit sad to hear your story, because it must have been a really lonely one. (sorry if there are some gramatical errors, this is not my first language). It's nice to hear you're back with new videos soon, I love your channel.
People connect over the most common things and over-the-top emotional displays so much that they end up having a hard time interpreting the individuality of others. It's nice to see you uploading again.. but clearly, you aren't an INTJ! Didn't even meow once. 😼
Well said. INTPs go through most of what you went through too. Ive been diagnosed with ADHD and Asperger's syndrome recently and now it makes a lot more sense
Very interesting. I love getting a deeper understanding of the way the INTJ thought process works and I feel that is exactly what happens each time you post a new video. Most INTJs don’t share nearly as much as you, and then it can be more challenging to truly understand how they feel about things. I completely understand and respect that, since I am very much that way too albeit in a slightly different way, but I can’t help but appreciate the insight you offer since you are willing to share your experience and how you really feel as an INTJ.
I believe this is why I see some comments on occasion from people who think an INTJ would never, under any circumstances, share aspects of themselves with strangers on the internet. It does cause me a sense of discomfort, but that's healing and going outside of a comfort zone in general. I'm not going to trap myself within the confines of my personality type. Glad you're still here.
@@nikiyikes5674 I think you are right. Especially since some people just stop at the stereotype of what an INTJ is “supposed” to be and don’t bother/want to dig any deeper to gain a greater understanding. That certainly isn’t me. I always want the deepest understanding I can possibly get of any subject which captures my interest. And in the case of understanding INTJs, because of having multiple INTJs that seem drawn to me, I want to be able to give them what they need to the best of my abilities. Since it does seem that the INTJs I know have had a difficult path as well, with most people. I have certainly learned more from you than any other INTJ on the internet, and precisely because you don’t just put everyone in a box, but go much deeper.
I can relate to about 80% of this. I am dyslexic and had some speech issues myself. I do still struggle with these problems, but I get through it. I think you are on to something. I have a hard time seeing the simple superficial things myself. My mom's favorite thing to say growing up was " It doesn't matter why." That was such a confusing time. I was always thinking "What do you mean why is not important? That is the most important question." I learned to find answers myself and not expect much from other people. It truly makes you feel like you can't depend on other people and best to keep things to yourself. It's not like you are going to get the answer from them anyway.
Oh...that dismissiveness to my questions growing up was so stressful in my early childhood. How was I supposed to learn and grow with no explanations? Also, why am I excepted to respect anything that's said if there is no reason provided? I can see why adults held the option that I was rebellious. I questioned everything.
Coming from a dysfunctional family, the bullying was verbal and physical. Its only now as an adult that I discovered my personality and at that being an INTJ, that there was nothing wrong with me in any form. I was different in my personality and grossly misunderstood. After almost losing my life in 2012, so much of me changed. I still say, that in a way she had passed away and I survived. I now know that I am perfectly normal and very comfortable in myself and in my eccentricities. I don’t care if I am misunderstood or not liked. I like me and I like my own company. It’s taken me a long time, but in Covid, having had the time to discover new things, I found myself. I am proud of being an INTJ. I wear it with Joy, because being able to UNDERSTAND myself has probably been one of the Greatest Gifts God Has Given me. My soul has come to the surface and finally taken a life giving breath. I found the sunshine again in a very dark misunderstood time of my life. This has been life saving because I believe in myself and my own instincts. I am my own new best friend.
I'm glad you're still here and you were able to overcome those obstacals and a life threatening situation. I think the things I have survived is what makes me more acutely aware of the sensory world than, perhaps, other INTJs. That does shape us, especially our home environment. It's always interesting to think about how some INTJs do better with processing emotions than others, for example. If we've grown up in a certain environment, it makes sense that we'd see those lasting effects with how we utilize the cognitive functions of our personality type, and even have different levels of development.
It was as if I had been mentally hit with a wrecking ball so that I shattered like a building. Thank you for sharing your experience. I imagine it wasn't an easy decision, but as a teenage INTJ girl, it's nice to hear you're not alone. Just a simple human nature, huh? Have a good day! 🐈⬛
@@nikiyikes5674 Heh, I figured you're way older than me! I was talking about experience as a whole, if that makes sense :) Thank you for sharing yours.
I grew up similar to this I didn't like other kids because they were playing in the dirt and I liked to talk about science I was like 6 or 7 I really do not remember but I remember the teachers didn't want to talk to me they said go play so I seen kids playing baeblade so I just watched them because at least this was more interesting when I was in HS I was the edgy kid who talked to everyone but had no clique but I did want to be part of the tech guys class but my grades where bad at the time
My issue with other kids is that I was never that little girl who liked dolls or princesses. I always preferred to play by myself, yet I've been pretty well liked (or feared) throughout my life. Even when I looked back with adult vision, I still have no idea what was wrong with all the adults in my life. Maybe it's a side effect of where I grew up and how I naturally rebelled against gender roles.
honestly I really wish I knew you like a FB or Instagram friend or discord chat ps if you want I have a Gmail also can you make a storytime about your cool tatto it's very nice
It's tough being a cat. Then you realise there are other cats out there. Then you realise cats are similar to the cows, horses and dogs. Then if you think deeply you realise that cats are different, but also similar and it's not too bad being a cat. :)
The story of the poor, misunderstood creature triggers the validation reflex in MBTI circles. In my experience, however, there is also peer pressure in MBTI circles, although it is not called that, but disguised by euphemisms such as self-improvement or shadow work. Is this more comfortable and more acceptable to you?
I'd say INFP's remain the most misunderstood. It actually bothers them. I just wanted to understand what I was missing, and once I figured it out, I was good.
@@nikiyikes5674 Haha, reminds me the meme: INTJ : doesn't want nor need people INFP : doesn't want people, but _needs_ people (Bonus: INTJ: can talk, but doesn't want to talk INFP: can't talk, but wants to talk INFJ: can talk and wants to talk, but somehow doesn't talk) 🤣
My best answer: Intuitive thinkers are rare, and people don't understand Ni. People fear what they don't understand.
I've heard this saying and have seen it in action, but at the same time, there is plenty I haven't understood and did not fear. I just tried to understand it so I could learn. I suppose this was a huge issue for me as I was growing up, and it caused quite a bit of frustration.
@@nikiyikes5674 We've all experienced this from what I gather. School is more about compliance than actual learning. What makes INTJ's different is we challenge things that aren't fundamentally well grounded. I've come to an understanding regarding the ways of the world, (that it's the world that is flawed). The world transforms people into wage, and debt slaves to fill corporate positions, as wage and debt slaves involved in consumerism. The powers don't want independent, successful, creative, critical thinkers that are not easily controlled, and will challenge the system. When we don't comply, we get labeled, and publicly humiliated. I don't feel bad for not being sheepish, nor for going against the grain. Our struggle makes us who we are, and I wouldn't change that. If more people opposed the ways of the world, it would be a better place. I know your struggle.
Check out the film -Pink Floyd "The Wall".
always shocking to hear that grown ups bully kids. I think almost all of the time its never the child but the parents and the social environment that cant adapt to the needs of the child, sorry all that happened to you
I understand what you mean. When I was a kid, I never understood why my 'peers' were so cavalier, so reckless, so shortsighted. I grew up on my grandpa's cattle ranch, so I was expected, needed to help with ranch chores, driving heavy machinery, riding horses, working cattle in chutes, etc. all potentially dangerous activities. Yet, unlike many of my peers who also grew up on ranches, I never got severely injured. I had what my sister jokingly called 'spidey sense'. I could usually predict when something bad was likely to happen or about to happen and take steps to prevent it or avoid it. I figured out safer ways to do things, sometimes even without an adult helping me do so.
well i think telling a story about your childhood
and it is very touching i would say
I am an INTJ myself and i had a lot of this things happen to me :)
INTJ, seems to be born from the ashes of chaos, pain, destruction, like a harsh cactus ready to take the worst from the world.
The never ending quest to answer, "why?" I suspect that many INTJ's do a lot of this questing in their formative years. They look into that big pool of intuition (Ni) for answers b/c it's safe and maybe not easily understood, but comprehensive and thorough in answering the question. They get a large satisfying answer from the inverted world, an answer they couldn't find anywhere else.
I like how 99% of INTJ videos are like: *Delivered in cold calm anger "everyone is stupid, but they don't know it, they all pushed me around, and now...... now...... ugh.....*exhales more hate *Video ends"
So glad you’re back!
I hope it stops bugging you when morons come out of the woodwork to tell you who you are or how you are supposed to be. They are just small minds with big mouths and the people on their level are the only ones that are buying into it. They don't see nuance, they regurgitate something they were instructed but never gave thought too.
Oh and like in your other video, this story resonated. I just experienced it through my own lense, had different parts that people couldn't accept and was shaped differently by it. Thanks for sharing =]
as you are describing exactly me ...... I feel not so alone now .......must be....an INTJ thing...
I suppose it is.
I was fortunate in that, at age 5, a second child was born in the family and the attention went from me to that child. That is when I discovered I was free walk my own path, with little adult supervision or intrusion. All thru school I was the quiet loner, mostly invisible, and that was the way I wanted it. Sorry to hear you were surrounded by adults that not only didn't give you space, but actively opposed your very nature.
Being the quiet loner is what got me attention. Perhaps that's just the side effect of what's expected from females in the area I grew up in. I naturally rebelled against expectations I didn't even know existed at the time.
Literally my super power. I could even pass by security guards because I was always alone
As an Se inferior myself I can resonate with this heavily. From the struggles with speech at a young age to being socially isolated (metaphorical and/or *literal, for years*) and often by choice.
It is nice to hear a story that seems to have some similar parallels.
Se may be inferior, but at least we have it.
I use it constantly. Being inferior, it's a bit clumsy. I feel like it takes me out of Ni a bit too much though. Half of personalities don't have Se at all. Te, and Se together really get things done.
Story of my life: people are so superficial they can't even fathom the infinite richness of this universe. When you try to explain anything to them, they don't believe you. They can't. They're not able. Even the slightest piece of Truth you try to tell them seems like whipping their faces with stinging nettles. So best to leave them to their freakin' small talk. Lucidity is but a curse in this day and age.
Fortunately, each and every (new) video of yours is an enchantment. We need more (and more often). I wish there wasn't an ocean parting us, so the least I can do is sending you a thumb up and a warm, electronic hug. There
That was an excellent video. How it accurately described most of my own childhood. I was blamed for having allergies and teachers called me disruptive because I sneezed and blew my nose in class. Also I won every spelling bee in K-6, and it just was...expected....the hard work of studying never congratulated. And prior to Kindergarten, I was in this stupid home-based "preschool" at age 4 with a bunch of 3-year-olds, and I got in trouble for wanting to read (why else would it be pre-school and not baby-sitting?) instead of playing some stupid follow-the-other-children game with kids way too young for me.
Then, adults really hated it when I began asking "why?" to so many things, primarily because they did not have the answers either, but they did not want to look stupid. Luckily this resulted in the adults buying me books I wanted! :)
I used to be a very werid kid, my mom thought I was retarded, personally I think it was more a behavior of a ADHD kid.
I visited 2 psychologists before being 16, the second one used to make me cry often and I didn't like it because he had no idea about the difference between how I see my self and how people see me. He said I was not letting people enter in my life. I wasted 2 or 3 years working and avoiding school after that.
Now I'm 24 and it appears to be that I'm the smartest guy in the classroom or at least that's what they say. I still don't have many friends, and they don't fully understand me, but they try.
It was a bit sad to hear your story, because it must have been a really lonely one. (sorry if there are some gramatical errors, this is not my first language).
It's nice to hear you're back with new videos soon, I love your channel.
Such a coherent INTJ narrative in this. Very well done.
Thank you! It was a rather difficult video to record.
People connect over the most common things and over-the-top emotional displays so much that they end up having a hard time interpreting the individuality of others. It's nice to see you uploading again.. but clearly, you aren't an INTJ! Didn't even meow once. 😼
Oh, my mistakes. Let me clear out my vocal chords...one more second...ahem...MEOW 🐯
Pretty much.
Well said. INTPs go through most of what you went through too. Ive been diagnosed with ADHD and Asperger's syndrome recently and now it makes a lot more sense
Very interesting. I love getting a deeper understanding of the way the INTJ thought process works and I feel that is exactly what happens each time you post a new video. Most INTJs don’t share nearly as much as you, and then it can be more challenging to truly understand how they feel about things. I completely understand and respect that, since I am very much that way too albeit in a slightly different way, but I can’t help but appreciate the insight you offer since you are willing to share your experience and how you really feel as an INTJ.
I believe this is why I see some comments on occasion from people who think an INTJ would never, under any circumstances, share aspects of themselves with strangers on the internet. It does cause me a sense of discomfort, but that's healing and going outside of a comfort zone in general. I'm not going to trap myself within the confines of my personality type.
Glad you're still here.
@@nikiyikes5674 I think you are right. Especially since some people just stop at the stereotype of what an INTJ is “supposed” to be and don’t bother/want to dig any deeper to gain a greater understanding. That certainly isn’t me. I always want the deepest understanding I can possibly get of any subject which captures my interest. And in the case of understanding INTJs, because of having multiple INTJs that seem drawn to me, I want to be able to give them what they need to the best of my abilities. Since it does seem that the INTJs I know have had a difficult path as well, with most people. I have certainly learned more from you than any other INTJ on the internet, and precisely because you don’t just put everyone in a box, but go much deeper.
Hence why I fear not competent enemies, but incompetent allies.
INTJs have one of the most challenging life paths although it's also one of the most rewarding. You got to take in the bad with the good I suppose.
Life challenges can make a fighter, that's for sure.
Glad to see you back! I'm still around and I'm not going anywhere. ;)
Thank you for the support!
I can relate to about 80% of this. I am dyslexic and had some speech issues myself. I do still struggle with these problems, but I get through it. I think you are on to something. I have a hard time seeing the simple superficial things myself. My mom's favorite thing to say growing up was " It doesn't matter why." That was such a confusing time. I was always thinking "What do you mean why is not important? That is the most important question." I learned to find answers myself and not expect much from other people. It truly makes you feel like you can't depend on other people and best to keep things to yourself. It's not like you are going to get the answer from them anyway.
Oh...that dismissiveness to my questions growing up was so stressful in my early childhood. How was I supposed to learn and grow with no explanations? Also, why am I excepted to respect anything that's said if there is no reason provided? I can see why adults held the option that I was rebellious. I questioned everything.
great vid Niki. I can relate on a number of points within your story.. good to see you back ;)
-intj5w6
Good to be back!
People push away what they don't understand, and that's why I hate people.
I hate people when their unwillingness to understand causes problems they refuse to fix.
Coming from a dysfunctional family, the bullying was verbal and physical. Its only now as an adult that I discovered my personality and at that being an INTJ, that there was nothing wrong with me in any form. I was different in my personality and grossly misunderstood. After almost losing my life in 2012, so much of me changed. I still say, that in a way she had passed away and I survived. I now know that I am perfectly normal and very comfortable in myself and in my eccentricities. I don’t care if I am misunderstood or not liked. I like me and I like my own company. It’s taken me a long time, but in Covid, having had the time to discover new things, I found myself. I am proud of being an INTJ. I wear it with Joy, because being able to UNDERSTAND myself has probably been one of the Greatest Gifts God Has Given me. My soul has come to the surface and finally taken a life giving breath. I found the sunshine again in a very dark misunderstood time of my life. This has been life saving because I believe in myself and my own instincts. I am my own new best friend.
I'm glad you're still here and you were able to overcome those obstacals and a life threatening situation. I think the things I have survived is what makes me more acutely aware of the sensory world than, perhaps, other INTJs. That does shape us, especially our home environment. It's always interesting to think about how some INTJs do better with processing emotions than others, for example. If we've grown up in a certain environment, it makes sense that we'd see those lasting effects with how we utilize the cognitive functions of our personality type, and even have different levels of development.
It was as if I had been mentally hit with a wrecking ball so that I shattered like a building.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I imagine it wasn't an easy decision, but as a teenage INTJ girl, it's nice to hear you're not alone. Just a simple human nature, huh?
Have a good day! 🐈⬛
Hi! I'm actually in my 30s :)
@@nikiyikes5674 Heh, I figured you're way older than me! I was talking about experience as a whole, if that makes sense :)
Thank you for sharing yours.
@@watching3188 So. I misinterpreted (haha!). My apologies. I understand what you meant now. Thank you for clarifying.
Wow...
I understand you deeply.
❤🔥
I grew up similar to this I didn't like other kids because they were playing in the dirt and I liked to talk about science I was like 6 or 7 I really do not remember but I remember the teachers didn't want to talk to me they said go play so I seen kids playing baeblade so I just watched them because at least this was more interesting when I was in HS I was the edgy kid who talked to everyone but had no clique but I did want to be part of the tech guys class but my grades where bad at the time
My issue with other kids is that I was never that little girl who liked dolls or princesses. I always preferred to play by myself, yet I've been pretty well liked (or feared) throughout my life. Even when I looked back with adult vision, I still have no idea what was wrong with all the adults in my life. Maybe it's a side effect of where I grew up and how I naturally rebelled against gender roles.
honestly I really wish I knew you like a FB or Instagram friend or discord chat ps if you want I have a Gmail also can you make a storytime about your cool tatto it's very nice
It's tough being a cat.
Then you realise there are other cats out there.
Then you realise cats are similar to the cows, horses and dogs.
Then if you think deeply you realise that cats are different, but also similar and it's not too bad being a cat. :)
Looking forward to more!
Thank you!
Good to see you back!
Good to be back! I get busy and then look at the calendar just to realize how much time has passed.
relatable
My apologies.
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🐯
The story of the poor, misunderstood creature triggers the validation reflex in MBTI circles. In my experience, however, there is also peer pressure in MBTI circles, although it is not called that, but disguised by euphemisms such as self-improvement or shadow work. Is this more comfortable and more acceptable to you?
Very relatable. One major benefit is coming through the other side as an adult who is very mentally strong and realizing that is not a common thing.
Well put, and under-rated.
Good things don't come easily.
And yet, I still can't help but believe that strength is a choice that I've witnessed many not choose. That's probably not very fair of me, though.
@@nikiyikes5674 Sounds like a very logical/rational way of thinking about it. Don't forget how they are.
At this point I'm convinced that INFP is not the most misunderstood-childhood type 🫠 My heart goes out to you, INTJs
I'd say INFP's remain the most misunderstood. It actually bothers them. I just wanted to understand what I was missing, and once I figured it out, I was good.
@@nikiyikes5674
Haha, reminds me the meme:
INTJ : doesn't want nor need people
INFP : doesn't want people, but _needs_ people
(Bonus:
INTJ: can talk, but doesn't want to talk
INFP: can't talk, but wants to talk
INFJ: can talk and wants to talk, but somehow doesn't talk)
🤣
@@letsreadtextbook1687 that's hilarious and very true, it seems!