@@ytj22 Car buyers are a somewhat captive audience. Since all cars are now super expensive, there are not a lot of alternatives. Doesn't make the price any less ridiculous.
After being a profound Tacoma guy and owning 3 of them across all the previous gen's. I am so glad I ended up getting a 24 Raptor. At the price of these "mid-size" Tacomas I only spend an additional 8k to get a full size raptor that combines the Trailhunter and the Pro. Especially with all the recent issues that have been plaguing Toyota and the dreadful dealerships I have had to deal with switching it up to a Raptor was very nice.
I'll still be getting the TH because the money isn't an issue for me. You're not just getting the truck, you're getting a lot more that you'd normally have to go to the aftermarket for (that you don't get on RR either) so if you work the cost of that stuff into it then it's actually cheaper without it than the RR is. You get very little on the RR that the TH doesn't get but you get A LOT on the TH that you don't get on the RR. Not to mention you get WAY better resale value and reliability than with ANY Ford product. Not to mention WAY better paint options. Not to mention you can get it completely overland ready from the factory, fridge and tent, etc. included. Everyone wants to talk about the issues plaguing Toyota but those are all in first year of production vehicles, which is typical across the industry and they ignored it for the Bronco with egregious engine issues. The dealerships for Ford are also well known for huge markups and bait and switch tactics. Also, the RR just looks like a sleeper, not very interesting. Especially compared to its bigger brother. I would have thought they'd make it look mean but the TH has way more bite than it. Overall, if money is not an issue, which for me it is not, the TH offers the better package and you'd be able to sell it for more when you're done with it.
@@joshdudeguy2830 Go for it, it doesn't affect me either way lol. I did personally get the F150 Raptor so all the talk about the RR doesn't do anything for me. I can easily put a fridge and a tent on my truck and call it a TH with more power. As for the reliability, they used the same engine in my truck in their baja trophy trucks and in the le mans race so if it can deal with that I am not worried about breaking it lol. I also got the Raptor at 3k below MSRP whereas the Toyota dealer near me charges a "standard" 3k upcharge for any of the TRD trims, it all depends where you go to. Also the resale on a F150 Raptor is better than on the Tacoma's of past gens. Also the shelter green looks pretty darn good in my driveway ;)
@@apollo9261the F150 Raptor definitely makes a lot more sense for such a small price difference. There's no way my daughter would be comfortable in that back seat.
Toyota quality ain’t cheap. After 3 engines in under 150k miles I’ll never buy another GM truck again. Not to mention practically every electronic switch shits the bed. Garbage
oh my goodness we need a full sound test with that snorkel, just those little bursts of throttle had my face smiling and laughing at the same time! What about some curvy roads with the windows down?
Despite the > US $62,000 price (plus whatever shenanigans dealers will add) there will be buyers who will get a kick out of the Trailhunter - and that’s great for them. I really wish one of the laps was done with the sway bar connected to get a visual comparison vs. sway bar disconnected (even on a wide angle camera). This was interesting, thanks.
@@ThirdBrainLives So he becomes boomer simply because he wants all the issues to be sorted out first? I think you are a real piece of work for thinking that way.
@@bccal5982True, but people have forgotten that UR series in the Tundras had issues when it first came out, same with the 1GR and 2GR’s. VVT-i, water pumps, etc. Major issues that could grenade engines. So far the 4 cylinders have been reliable, the only issues the V6 has really faced were from manufacturing issues. If there’s something that sets Toyota apart from other brands, it’s that it’s always looking to improve and fix its mistakes. These new turbo 4 and 6 cylinders will come to gain a great reputation of their own. Just give it time.
In regards to the TRD Pro trim, I wonder why they put so much RND into fancy seats instead of just putting that money into Fox Live Valve shocks used in the Raptor products?
Amongst the way too much tech pricey truck, am not a fan of the new Toyota’s Boxy overhung front and rear body. Also, they went overboard with the sheer lengths of these things…. Another note is that Toyota makes you pay extra for any difference in warranty length
This is honestly making me regret my subaru forester purchase. However, $63,000 is seriously steep and thats way out of my reach for some time. Nevertheless, i'll probably end up trading in for one years down the line.
I just don’t understand pricing these days on midsized and to a degree half tons. I mean who is buying this thing at $62k? You can get a F-250 with some nannys at that price point. The rear bench on this truck is USELESS so why not just make it a single cab too? Weird times for midsized trucks imo. As a Gladiator owner, the only one that makes sense is the GM ones. The Ranger Raptor is okay I guess. At least it starts in the mid 50s
If your going to buy this type of midsized off road pickup, the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition is a much better value. I was always a Toyota guy, and older Colorados were complete junk. That 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition is not junk. You're getting a more caoable off road truck for the money.
I love the looks and the features Toyota has brought in. Don’t love the price (Ranger Raptor comes in around $60k with front/rear lockers/electronically controlled shocks, etc). Plus the lack of frame mounted bump stops and transmission issues- not seeing the value here. Quality used to be Toyota’s value and that is not currently the case (100k Tundra engine recall???). I’m looking at the new LC but waiting to see if issues arise on that one. Have driven Yota’s for 25 years until I got my Bronco (which I love).
I'm curious about the Tundra recall. Do other automakers offer to replace your engine even if it hasn't failed? Or do they wait for a failure before they resist and then eventually replace the engine?
@@ytj22 when the Bronco was released, they had some 2021’s that were blowing with very low miles. It was a lot of them but they were all manufactured in a short timeframe. Turns out Ford had received some bad valves )brittle/not to spec). They never issued a recall but did replace the engines as they failed. Some of us on the Bronco forum kept data on it and figured out the timeframe of bad valves- the fanboys were freaking out! It looks eerily similar to the Toyota fanboys who get butt hurt over Toyotas current issues. It makes zero sense- why defend a company’s bad quality? Make them fix it! 🤷♂️
@@stevecarmichael6465 Well said, thanks. Seems like for this occasion, they are offering to fix with or without failure so it there is less "making" them do it, which is nice.
A) I'll never buy new and A1) I'll NEVER EVER think about buying a new TRUCK, the premiums on new trucks are insane now, I'll wait a couple of years and save 20k but damn that's a nice truck, I just wish they would bring back the smaller Tacos
I had to fast forward to the end to make sure you didn't get stranded due to a transmission failure. No thanks, for the price, you did well getting that Ranger Raptor.
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Here's the street driving impressions video: th-cam.com/video/RNVoxGn8WZU/w-d-xo.html
2024 TRD Pro offroad: th-cam.com/video/570M_ggn43k/w-d-xo.html
Props to those guys who stand out in that weather all day.
Looks good, but that price is horrid! Another perfect vid Topher, keep up the grind!
If the price is too horrid, it won't sell and the price will likely drop. If not, then the price is not horrid.
@@ytj22 Car buyers are a somewhat captive audience. Since all cars are now super expensive, there are not a lot of alternatives. Doesn't make the price any less ridiculous.
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After being a profound Tacoma guy and owning 3 of them across all the previous gen's. I am so glad I ended up getting a 24 Raptor. At the price of these "mid-size" Tacomas I only spend an additional 8k to get a full size raptor that combines the Trailhunter and the Pro. Especially with all the recent issues that have been plaguing Toyota and the dreadful dealerships I have had to deal with switching it up to a Raptor was very nice.
I'll still be getting the TH because the money isn't an issue for me. You're not just getting the truck, you're getting a lot more that you'd normally have to go to the aftermarket for (that you don't get on RR either) so if you work the cost of that stuff into it then it's actually cheaper without it than the RR is. You get very little on the RR that the TH doesn't get but you get A LOT on the TH that you don't get on the RR. Not to mention you get WAY better resale value and reliability than with ANY Ford product. Not to mention WAY better paint options. Not to mention you can get it completely overland ready from the factory, fridge and tent, etc. included. Everyone wants to talk about the issues plaguing Toyota but those are all in first year of production vehicles, which is typical across the industry and they ignored it for the Bronco with egregious engine issues. The dealerships for Ford are also well known for huge markups and bait and switch tactics. Also, the RR just looks like a sleeper, not very interesting. Especially compared to its bigger brother. I would have thought they'd make it look mean but the TH has way more bite than it. Overall, if money is not an issue, which for me it is not, the TH offers the better package and you'd be able to sell it for more when you're done with it.
@@joshdudeguy2830 Go for it, it doesn't affect me either way lol. I did personally get the F150 Raptor so all the talk about the RR doesn't do anything for me. I can easily put a fridge and a tent on my truck and call it a TH with more power. As for the reliability, they used the same engine in my truck in their baja trophy trucks and in the le mans race so if it can deal with that I am not worried about breaking it lol. I also got the Raptor at 3k below MSRP whereas the Toyota dealer near me charges a "standard" 3k upcharge for any of the TRD trims, it all depends where you go to. Also the resale on a F150 Raptor is better than on the Tacoma's of past gens. Also the shelter green looks pretty darn good in my driveway ;)
@@apollo9261the F150 Raptor definitely makes a lot more sense for such a small price difference. There's no way my daughter would be comfortable in that back seat.
Let me guess….only $89,000?
Edit: nevermind “only” $62,900 😅
Like 5 percent of dealers still expect to pay 70-80 k
Chooch comment
$62k was easily Lexus territory just a few years ago. For that price, they can keep it.
And not on 35s like the Colorado Bison, nor a V6 like the ranger Raptor. Literally paying 10-15k tacoma name tax for no reason
Toyota quality ain’t cheap. After 3 engines in under 150k miles I’ll never buy another GM truck again. Not to mention practically every electronic switch shits the bed. Garbage
I have almost watched every video on this site for this trim I can’t wait to get it hopefully in the next 4 months
I miss small Tacomas :(
You're gonna love the back seat still then.
oh my goodness we need a full sound test with that snorkel, just those little bursts of throttle had my face smiling and laughing at the same time!
What about some curvy roads with the windows down?
Review number 67 I've seen of the Tacoma so far this year. But it's only August....
I feel like what Toyota does, it does well.
What is the point of the ARB sport bar? Is it wired for off road lights?
Despite the > US $62,000 price (plus whatever shenanigans dealers will add) there will be buyers who will get a kick out of the Trailhunter - and that’s great for them. I really wish one of the laps was done with the sway bar connected to get a visual comparison vs. sway bar disconnected (even on a wide angle camera). This was interesting, thanks.
I recently bought a luxury apartment way up on the top of that infotainment screen. Come on girl!
I cannot wait till i get mine in october!!
With all the issues these new trucks have had from Toyota, I'm going to be steering clear of them for a while.
Okay boomer. Time to go back to bed.
@@ThirdBrainLives So he becomes boomer simply because he wants all the issues to be sorted out first? I think you are a real piece of work for thinking that way.
@@bccal5982In fairness, a bit of a troll comment from the OP
@@bccal5982True, but people have forgotten that UR series in the Tundras had issues when it first came out, same with the 1GR and 2GR’s. VVT-i, water pumps, etc. Major issues that could grenade engines. So far the 4 cylinders have been reliable, the only issues the V6 has really faced were from manufacturing issues. If there’s something that sets Toyota apart from other brands, it’s that it’s always looking to improve and fix its mistakes. These new turbo 4 and 6 cylinders will come to gain a great reputation of their own. Just give it time.
Love the off-road vids
Since you now own the ranger raptor.. would you take this over the raptor or how do you think it stacks up against the RR?
The question I wanted to ask lol
Good job!!!
Man as much as I wanted a new Tacoma Pro or Trailhunter, going to have to pass, pricing/backseats almost useless..
Sweet truck and great content as always. You are the buzzword king it cracks me up😂😂😂
They need to allow the trail hunter seats in the trd pro.
I love your videos ❤
I wish they would reduce the rear cab or make a 2 door variant with a longer bed, with the same overall length.
Can it go 85mph???
In regards to the TRD Pro trim, I wonder why they put so much RND into fancy seats instead of just putting that money into Fox Live Valve shocks used in the Raptor products?
Yeah those seats make the rear legroom unbearable. Bizzare decision.
@@andyh4464 They would be perfect in a 2 seater, though.. wish they would make those, again.
Looks great
Amongst the way too much tech pricey truck, am not a fan of the new Toyota’s Boxy overhung front and rear body. Also, they went overboard with the sheer lengths of these things….
Another note is that Toyota makes you pay extra for any difference in warranty length
I want this in a long bed, sans bed rack.
This is honestly making me regret my subaru forester purchase. However, $63,000 is seriously steep and thats way out of my reach for some time. Nevertheless, i'll probably end up trading in for one years down the line.
The side mirrors on that thing are from a Prius, put some actual truck mirrors on that thing
Yesssiiirrrrr
I just cant imagine how much you gotta make to buy a new truck and 2 new cars gotta be atleast 250k a year in my area
I just don’t understand pricing these days on midsized and to a degree half tons. I mean who is buying this thing at $62k? You can get a F-250 with some nannys at that price point.
The rear bench on this truck is USELESS so why not just make it a single cab too? Weird times for midsized trucks imo. As a Gladiator owner, the only one that makes sense is the GM ones. The Ranger Raptor is okay I guess. At least it starts in the mid 50s
Even though I won’t get a Tacoma, I’m never gonna be able to get a truck….they too darn expensive….😢
If your going to buy this type of midsized off road pickup, the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition is a much better value. I was always a Toyota guy, and older Colorados were complete junk. That 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition is not junk. You're getting a more caoable off road truck for the money.
lol. yep keeping my old toyota corolla iM and 2018 Rav4. Both simple, reliable, and made in japan unlike these hecho en mexico BARF
They overdid the slow steering.
I really don't understand the need for power tailgate. Just added non sense
Agreed. Vehicle manufacturers are all about forcing expensive tech on customers, when the customers don't even want it.
I love the looks and the features Toyota has brought in. Don’t love the price (Ranger Raptor comes in around $60k with front/rear lockers/electronically controlled shocks, etc). Plus the lack of frame mounted bump stops and transmission issues- not seeing the value here. Quality used to be Toyota’s value and that is not currently the case (100k Tundra engine recall???). I’m looking at the new LC but waiting to see if issues arise on that one. Have driven Yota’s for 25 years until I got my Bronco (which I love).
I'm curious about the Tundra recall. Do other automakers offer to replace your engine even if it hasn't failed? Or do they wait for a failure before they resist and then eventually replace the engine?
@@ytj22 when the Bronco was released, they had some 2021’s that were blowing with very low miles. It was a lot of them but they were all manufactured in a short timeframe. Turns out Ford had received some bad valves )brittle/not to spec). They never issued a recall but did replace the engines as they failed. Some of us on the Bronco forum kept data on it and figured out the timeframe of bad valves- the fanboys were freaking out! It looks eerily similar to the Toyota fanboys who get butt hurt over Toyotas current issues. It makes zero sense- why defend a company’s bad quality? Make them fix it! 🤷♂️
@@stevecarmichael6465 Well said, thanks. Seems like for this occasion, they are offering to fix with or without failure so it there is less "making" them do it, which is nice.
Cool truck but way too expensive for what you get
Is it just me or that steering is turning 360 no stop
PARTSHUNTER
A) I'll never buy new and A1) I'll NEVER EVER think about buying a new TRUCK, the premiums on new trucks are insane now, I'll wait a couple of years and save 20k but damn that's a nice truck, I just wish they would bring back the smaller Tacos
Totally agree about smaller trucks in general - I miss them! But don’t hold your breath for Toyota to depreciate.
Does anyone know if this has frame mounted bump stops or still has the cheap shock mounted ones that ICON broke on their 2024.
33's look too small on the truck
$62K for a Tacoma, RIP...
MSRP with Options
$62,900
ahahahaha. nah toyota. you can keep this on the lot. I'll get better value elsewhere.
Wasn’t this a small-midsize truck? What happened to this roid-runner?
I believe this has the same length as previous gen, approximately 213 inches.
I had to fast forward to the end to make sure you didn't get stranded due to a transmission failure. No thanks, for the price, you did well getting that Ranger Raptor.
Transmission failure in 3…2…1…
And imagine that, it didn't happen, because it probably won't.
@@ytj22 - Tick tock.
@@drivedb7 Is that your source for information? Or.....
@@ytj22 NHTSA, automotive media, Google
@@ytj22 - NHTSA, automotive media, Google
frontier better 😊