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  • The TRUE ORIGIN of Noah's Ark Will Blow Your Mind! - 4k Documentary
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    Unveil the enthralling origins of the Biblical flood story in this captivating documentary. Delve into the ancient Mesopotamian flood myths, including the Sumerian flood myth, Atrahasis Epic, and Epic of Gilgamesh, and witness the undeniable connections to the iconic tale of Noah. From shared themes to linguistic correlations, we explore the rich tapestry of these ancient narratives, shedding light on their profound influence on the Genesis flood account.
    Join us on a thought-provoking journey as we navigate through the ancient myths, uncovering the purpose and significance behind the Genesis narrative. Discover the intriguing motifs, literary intertextuality, and cultural contexts that shaped the iconic flood story we know today. With expert insights and compelling evidence, we present a compelling case for the dependence of the Bible's flood myth on these much earlier Mesopotamian myths.
    As our documentary reaches its conclusion, be prepared for a tantalizing glimpse into our future explorations. Our next episode will delve into the captivating realms of Nimrod and the Ziggurat, unveiling their fascinating connections to the ancient city of Babylon. Stay tuned for an exhilarating continuation of our journey through the ancient world, unraveling the mysteries and revealing the hidden truths behind these timeless myths.
    Join us in this captivating exploration.
    Thanks to Dr. Joshua Bowen for providing the details in this video. Be sure to get his book, "The Atheist Handbook To The Old Testament Volume 2
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  • @MythVisionPodcast
    @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Comment below letting me know your favorite part of this documentary.
    Thanks to Dr. Joshua Bowen for providing the details in this video. Be sure to get his book, "The Atheist Handbook To The Old Testament Volume 2 on Audible or Hardback, especially if you like what you heard in this video. His book covers much more! @DigitalHammurabi
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    • @ngdax3987
      @ngdax3987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A@aaaa

    • @ngdax3987
      @ngdax3987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A@aaaaaA@aaaaaaaaq

    • @ClaireSweets
      @ClaireSweets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love your GOD voice. Really helps visualise the story. Thankyou.

    • @bunchlead
      @bunchlead 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is a very literalist view of the bible, which I know many Christians adopt. However, from a very young age I always felt that these biblical stories are allegorical and are meant to be interpreted through a symbolic prism.
      The fact these stories are myth based, does not detract from bible's authenticity imo. A person needs to use spiritual gifts of interpretation rather than academia to understand these spiritual writings.
      If God wants to communicate with mankind using myth, why not?

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ClaireSweets Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed that.

  • @cholst1
    @cholst1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Irving Finkels "The Ark Before Noah" is a great lecture on the subject!

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His work is amazing!

    • @jessestreet2549
      @jessestreet2549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every time I see a new Finkel video pop up, I click. I'm convinced he's really Merlin.
      btw at 12:16 there's a photo of Finkel's ark reproduction. He has a video about it's construction.

    • @keiferalford7961
      @keiferalford7961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I absolutely love his lectures. From his 'royal game of Ur' to his ark...uh..coracle...gotta love Finkle.

  • @artemisnite
    @artemisnite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +393

    Cain was the biggest miracle worker of them all. Son of the first man and woman on Earth, went to a foreign land and found a WIFE! 😂

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Just showing your ignorance of the Biblical text: there were humanoids outside the Garden of Eden.
      Why did Cain build a city ? Who helped him ? 4 2 people ? And who was he afraid of ?

    • @TheBeingReal
      @TheBeingReal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@davidjanbaz7728just where does it say that?

    • @pwnagraphic690
      @pwnagraphic690 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      The Bible says mankind was created and THEN Adam and then eve.

    • @LyleFrancisDelp
      @LyleFrancisDelp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      @@pwnagraphic690. No it doesn’t. Adam and Eve were the first humans. Modern “literalists” now make things up to support their purported literal view of the Bible. Either read it as literal, or accept it as metaphor and allegory. You can’t have both.

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@TheBeingReal Genesis 4: 11- 17 : other humanoids outside the Garden of Eden is implied by Cain 's statements to the Lord.
      Verse 14 .... and it will come about that whoever finds me will kill me.
      Who is Cain afraid of?
      Verse 15 and the Lord appointed a sign for Cain lest ANYONE finding him should slay him .
      Who R these people?
      Verse 17 And Cain had relations with his wife ( not his sister) and she conceived and gave birth to Enoch and he built A CITY ( 4 , 3 people) ?
      Who helped him? Can U built A CITY by yourself?

  • @tam6912
    @tam6912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It’s news to many people who come from a fundamentalist background.

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really: fundamentalist have hyper literalist interpretations of the Bible that prevent them from seeing the Ancient Hebrew context of the Flood narrative.
      The Bible uses hyperbolic language of the whole Earth but in reality it was their whole earth the middle East and NOT a Global Flood which only came out of The 19th century Restoration movement.
      NOT historical Christianity's interpretations of Genesis1-11 from the church Fathers.
      Dr.Michael S.Heiser PhD in O.T languages: his videos explain why the Biblical narrative doesn't mean a Global Flood !

    • @RM3MB3R
      @RM3MB3R 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, old news.
      And still nonsense

  • @percubit10
    @percubit10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Humanity is not wicked, they fed us lies. We have infinite potential. Only if you knew what your soul knows.

    • @christinastanley2162
      @christinastanley2162 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I would say that humanity is not INHERENTLY evil. There was no original sin

    • @Wealthismybirthright
      @Wealthismybirthright 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is true. That’s why I don’t sit around spewing that nonsense that “life is horrible” or “ the world is evil”. Nah. I feel like life is a gift and it’s a beautiful experience to where we have so much power to control most of our lives or choices. People turn to religion to solve their issues or if they’re afraid to live half of the time.

    • @percubit10
      @percubit10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wealthismybirthright ✌🙏💥💜

    • @clbaker24
      @clbaker24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      pride comes before the fall, ive never met a "good" person we are capable of goodness thro Christ yall just love to leave GOD out of everything. that's the true wickedness of men

  • @Suxipumpkin
    @Suxipumpkin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I'm loving this format! As much as I enjoy your interviews with academics sometimes it's great to have it all laid out in documentary form. Thanks Derek keep it up.

  • @markdeegan7268
    @markdeegan7268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When the Jews were taken away to Babylon, they gained all of these tales. They also started to worship 1 god only from the babylon experience, due to the influence of Zarathustra…

    • @Observation-ch9hc
      @Observation-ch9hc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean the Jews were not worshipping Yahveh before the babylonian exile?

  • @OmegaWolf747
    @OmegaWolf747 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Seems the bible is best viewed in its proper context as just one of many ancient Near Eastern myth books.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @Wealthismybirthright
      @Wealthismybirthright 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. It never was supposed to been taken as literal and become a “book of life” or to root our identities based off that book.

    • @jmc8076
      @jmc8076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Wealthismybirthright
      Orig Council of Nicea maybe believed diff?

  • @karenbutcher1240
    @karenbutcher1240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's funny how the theme of Cain and Abel gets repeated with Jacob and Esau. Jacob stealing his brother's blessings with meat cooked by his mother.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cain and Esau is the same person.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So much repetition!

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The goat (Capricorn) represents winter (left hand) and the Lamb (Aries) represents summer (right hand). God, the summer sun, prefers summer (spring equinox - autumn equinox). He curses winter (autumn equinox - spring equinox).

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@harveywabbit9541 Aries represent Spring. The lion represents summer.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juanausensi499
      Leo = July the noble one.
      Virgo = August the palm frond.
      Libra -= September (seven) the reed.
      Scorpio = October (eight) the liar.
      See Isaiah 9.14-15, where the "historical Israel" is in the heavens/zodiac.

  • @razz5558
    @razz5558 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm particularly impressed that you managed to convince Alvin and the Chipmunks to voice the females in this video.

  • @hopelessnerd6677
    @hopelessnerd6677 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The people who finally wrote down the first Bible stories probably had no idea how old the stories were, or where they came from. They likely had been told in some form around some campfire for hundreds, or even thousands of years before any kind of written language versatile enough to record them existed. The Bible and other books like it are part of our global heritage now, so they're not going to disappear, but it's probably time to move on as far as using any of them as books of science or a Human owner's manual.

    • @ochem123
      @ochem123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      God created you, buddy. Don’t disregard God. He also created an angel just to protect you. Pray to your guardian angel. Think about the worst day in your life; your guardian Angel was there. God bless you ♥️

    • @patrickjones2379
      @patrickjones2379 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ochem123 that's not even remotely Biblical, much less relevant

    • @user-by8iv2cp1e
      @user-by8iv2cp1e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is more to the simple way the bible story look aroud n all un answer things around the world

  • @DrewTrox
    @DrewTrox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    It's been great seeing Derek go from humble skeptic to educator. Keep going strong, bro!

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I appreciate that!

    • @death2abrahamism
      @death2abrahamism 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder why he won´t get this guy up to talk about Noah´s ArkÞ
      th-cam.com/video/Go_8pjCnomI/w-d-xo.html
      )=he did at one point, but won´t anymore...

  • @scardini67611
    @scardini67611 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well articulated and beautiful graphics. Thank you!

  • @amycollins8832
    @amycollins8832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Sumerians would probably sue Moses over copyright if they had copyright in 600 b.c. Utnapishtim was the original!

  • @differous01
    @differous01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once Cuneiform was adopted by its neighbours, Sumer lost its edge over Akkad, and Sumerian is known only because Akkadian scribes preserved it. Once the Canaanite invention, alphabetic writing, was adopted by Aram, Aramaic displaced all the Canaanite dialects and, with the rise of Persia, using Aramaic as lingua franca, the writing was on the wall for Belshazzar, Akkadian and Cuneiform.
    Fortunately some had the wit to preserve
    key elements from the old format
    before its secret was lost,
    keeping the new format in an ark
    for some reason.

  • @ketiboablay8632
    @ketiboablay8632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The age of knowledge indeed!
    There is no more room for Christian, Islamic and so-called Judaic leaders to continue to deceive humanity.
    All societies have had their own creation and other mythologies. But these three religions succeeded in imposing their mythologies on the rest of humanity through well crafted evangelism.

  • @altonlg24
    @altonlg24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Pulling in and comparing the ancient languages and specific words used with their connections ... Wow ! Thank you.
    This I believe is the best of the series so far.
    I seek the truth and to know and live pleasing to the entity that designed and made to be what is. Letting go more and more has been freeing, and as of late the account of the flood hasn't set well with me as it is adding to things that don't line up.
    I am very grateful for all that you put into making and sharing this video.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the continuous series!

    • @geneburns3752
      @geneburns3752 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe that the flood story's are similar and the Israelites most likely new of the other stores as they were captured by the Babylonians and Persians and Assyrians however when they returned to the Land of Israel Yahweh instructed them to write the bible directing the bible writers what to write so it is reasonable to believe the Hebrew scriptures are the most accurate historical account

    • @mruncletheredge
      @mruncletheredge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let's not forget "The Epic of Gilgamesh". It's a carbon copy of the Noah story yet it's dated back about 1300 or so years BEFORE the Noah story was written....
      Occam's Razor would suggest Plagiarism....

    • @LeeroyMatimbere
      @LeeroyMatimbere 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The banished Cain tattooed and got a mohawk haircut 😂😂😂

  • @TheInterestedObserver
    @TheInterestedObserver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Derek when you are doing the Gods' voices you sound like Darth Vader haha - *SIDEWAAAAALLL* 🤣

  • @atheisticallyspeaking1217
    @atheisticallyspeaking1217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been waiting for someone to make this video. Thanks, Mythvision.

  • @GarfieldAReid
    @GarfieldAReid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was great

  • @Dwightfairfield.
    @Dwightfairfield. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    “Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.” ― Mark Twain

    • @user-rl5yr8vl7e
      @user-rl5yr8vl7e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Distance resistance I'm so far away it's easy to assume a lot upon closer inspection it becomes very difficult that's how I know❤

  • @laneneal3510
    @laneneal3510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Never heard this version. I can see how they took bits and pieces for their own culture. I understand that most cultures have a flood story.

  • @gabriellaritaart
    @gabriellaritaart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Derek, excellent job! 👍🎉 Love your new editing style ❤

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏🙂
    Great video.
    Very interesting and informative.

  • @Momma_Vanessa
    @Momma_Vanessa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    This was very well done. You gained a follower. Abraham was Sumarian. From Ur to be exact, which is the very place that the Sumerian tablets were found. I am of the opinion that Abraham brought his tales with him and over time like the game of telephone, things changed. I was born to a Jewish mother and Catholic father, was raised Catholic until the age of 12 when I became a Pentecostal. I eventually turned to my mothers faith which led me to leaving all faith behind. I am well-versed and I wanted to say how much I appreciate this video.

    • @Armyjay
      @Armyjay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Abraham wasn’t a real person.

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Armyjaydon't be a buzzkill

    • @roshellegouldbourne787
      @roshellegouldbourne787 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree.

    • @dboyes623
      @dboyes623 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The devil has a smooth tongue as well; do not be deceived.

    • @Armyjay
      @Armyjay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dboyes623 Lol so have i. Ask your mom

  • @jacv8183
    @jacv8183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Derek you are writing and editing so well it's ridiculous!!!

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @Wise__guy
      @Wise__guy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except for using “this begs the question” in the wrong context

  • @SecretsOfScripture
    @SecretsOfScripture 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your storytelling abilities are exceptional. You have a natural talent for captivating your audience with compelling narratives, keeping us hooked from beginning to end.

  • @theitineranthistorian2024
    @theitineranthistorian2024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    kicking back on this very warm day listening to fairy tales and myths. great narration and production to all involved.

  • @GnosticInformant
    @GnosticInformant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    another amazing chapter to an amazing series. Can't wait til the next!

  • @elainegoad9777
    @elainegoad9777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is known for a long time many old testament/Torah myths come from the Sumerian Clay Tablets stories, Egypt?/Khmet stories etc... thousands of years prior to the 600BC time of Hebrew writings being gathered together. I suggest some discussions with Paul Wallis, The Fifth Kind, and his books. Paul Wallis is a former (30 years) Arch-Deacon of the Anglican Church in Australia, Greek and Hebrew scholar. He came to the conclusion that many words, etc... are wrongly translated in the bible (Genesis, etc...) The question is why would the ancient Sumerians, 6000 BC record such stories if they didn't have a basis ? How do these stories relate or show similarty to indigenous stories around the world, especially Africa/Egypt, India, Australia, South and Central America, North America Navaho, Hopi, Cherokee, Lakota etc... who say they came from the stars and had star visitors? We don't know everything and as agnostics/atheists we should always be searching for hidden truths. I think there is more a possibility of ancient alien contact than some "god".

  • @FredLynch
    @FredLynch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Enlil voice over though 🤣😵‍💫💀but for real though, great work

  • @warrensmith8161
    @warrensmith8161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some questions to consider:
    Knowledge of Sumer was lost for thousands of years; was this an accident or could it have been intentional?
    When Sargon of Akkad took over the Sumerian Empire and changed the official language to Akkadian, is it possible that the scribes (who suddenly had a "flood" of work) were instructed not to copy certain Sumerian texts into the new language thus contributing to the loss of Sumer history?
    Could the similarity between the infancy stories of Moses and Sargon of Akkad be intended to indicate that the two characters were in fact connected and could their infant sized "arks" be part of the same flood story as Noah and Utnapishtim.
    We know that there were no Hebrew slaves in Egypt, but could there have been Akkadian slaves in Sumer? (If you can't mention your enemy by name, then you have to call him by something else.)
    If Noah's Flood story is an allegory about the destruction of Sumerian history couldn't the legend of Atlantis also be an allegory on this subject?
    Could the scribes have considered themselves as "gods" that could create "worlds" and "men" from the "dust" and "water" used to make clay tablets?
    Could the story of the Tree of Good and Evil be related to the discovery of allegory with "paradise" representing a world where the truth was allowed to be "naked"?

    • @gnewell8
      @gnewell8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great points!

    • @exoplanet11
      @exoplanet11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think that language hypothesis flies. Akkadian and Sumerian were used together simultaneously for so many years that they merged into what philologists call a "Sprachbund". Perhaps reformulate this hypothesis, if you wish, after reading: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_language
      {The similarities between Moses' and Sargon's birth stories are clear however}

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you consider the "world" and everything that exists in it to those people in those times consists of an area along the Euphrates and a bit of the Eastern Mediterranean, it makes it easy to understand all the animals in that area comprises of approximately 70 to 100 species and can be accommodated by a medium-large boat with room to spare.
      That is the entire "world" to them. They cannot write about what they did not know, and we know they didn't because everything else that was written is completely within the confines of that same area, so it only makes sense that is also where all the animals of their world lived that could be gathered up.
      And there are plenty of modern-day analogues for us to reference. Anytime you see on the news about a big rain anywhere on earth, you always see footage of some farmer/rancher with their family friends, neighbors, pets, livestock, and other farm animals being rescued by boats and shuttled off to safety.
      Noah did the same thing, but just scaled up in size.

  • @Boznaniac
    @Boznaniac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ah yes, a pair of each animals on this planet. Let's put lions next to deer, rabbits next to pythons, rhinos next to dinoaurs, tigers next to monkeys, koalas next to cows, horses next to falcons etc. What could possibly be wrong? 😂

    • @chrisstathe9183
      @chrisstathe9183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      God controls all things for his purpose.

    • @Boznaniac
      @Boznaniac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@chrisstathe9183 What a weird thing to say. It just doesn't make sense that a person name Noah built an ark for all these animals. It's simply illogical.

    • @birdmann9197
      @birdmann9197 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@chrisstathe9183 There are 5.5 million different species of insects. How long do you think it took for Noah to gather them all up? Do you think silk worms swam an ocean?

    • @angbry8305
      @angbry8305 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisstathe9183 GoOD promotes freedom not oppression (control)

    • @chrisstathe9183
      @chrisstathe9183 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@birdmann9197 They came to him.

  • @lawrencegreen8952
    @lawrencegreen8952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Noah's flood and the Mesopotamian flood story have 15 similarities in precisely the same order, which is beyond all doubt or denial by Christian Apologists, i.e., liars. There was no universal flood. Using James Ussher's dating for the Earth and the flood showed the Flood allegedly happened in the middle of Egyptian history which records no interruption for a flood. The Jews also copied their 7 day creation from the 7 day creation of the Mesopotamians. The Jews got their fondmess for 7 because the Mesopotamians revered 7 heavenly bodies: Sun, Mercury, Venus, Moon, Mars, Jupitar and Saturn. In France every day of the week is named after the Mesopotamian system. Our culture still has 3 contiguous days in our system named in the Mespotamian system: Saturnday, Sunday and Moonday. Every culture, especially the Jews, ripped the Mesopotamians off without proper intellectual attribution. From the Mesopotamians we inherited our telling of time (12/60) and direction (360 degrees). They had elements of Trig and Calculus and knew about the Pathagorean theorem 1500 years before Pathagorus. No wonder the Jews wanted to copy them.
    www.evidenceunseen.com/bible-difficulties-2/ot-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/gen-11-did-the-jews-steal-their-creation-story-from-the-babylonian-enuma-elish/
    th-cam.com/video/y2T-QeVY8mU/w-d-xo.html
    www.gotquestions.org/Gilgamesh-flood.html
    www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      " Liars" making statements without proof is slander buddy!
      You obviously R ignorant of many Christian scholars and Scientists that don't interpret the Flood of Noah as Global : just A Large Regional flood.
      People Aron Ra is to afraid to debate because they aren't his low hanging fundamentalist fruit he likes: i.e. Hovind and Ham.
      Dr. Hugh Ross Christian and astrophysicist has debunked both of these fundamentalists .

  • @jasonrosandichsandanmba8578
    @jasonrosandichsandanmba8578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol, all cultures have according to you tube historians a trace to all the myths and legends. Love the content. Thanks

  • @26beegee
    @26beegee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dr. James Tabor (another of your esteemed guest scholars) has a teaching online that completely corroborates this one. The evidence is clear. All ancient near-eastern mythologies borrowed and embellished each other’s stories. The Hebrew version became more widely known but, is far from unique.

  • @RickeyRockify
    @RickeyRockify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As im listening to the story being read that is ancient and supposedly even older than the Bible, I can’t help but wonder why does it sound like it was written in English? The verbs used and everything sounds American and if it’s ancient who translated this ancient story? where can we find these ancient stories and who were the people that translated them and how did they go about doing so. Its a sincere question. Thanks

  • @elainegoad9777
    @elainegoad9777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Aron Ra (atheist in Texas) debunks the worldwide" flood". I think he's a geologist or something scientific background.

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Biblical text uses hyperbole in the description of the whole world but Noah's Flood wasn't Global but A Large Regional flood over the whole Middle East. It's not a problem!

    • @TheBeingReal
      @TheBeingReal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidjanbaz7728LOL. so this flood was so big it needed all the animals to be saved on a boat…but the flood was only regional? Was there some magic wall around the area to keep the water in?

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed Aron does.

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheBeingRealWhen you consider the "world" and everything that exists in it to those people in those times consists of an area along the Euphrates and a bit of the Eastern Mediterranean, it makes it easy to understand all the animals in that area comprises of approximately 70 to 100 species and can be accommodated by a medium-large boat with room to spare.
      That is the entire "world" to them. They cannot write about what they did not know, and we know they didn't because everything else that was written is completely within the confines of that same area, so it only makes sense that is also where all the animals of their world lived that could be gathered up.
      And there are plenty of modern-day analogues for us to reference. Anytime you see on the news about a big rain anywhere on earth, you always see footage of some farmer/rancher with their family friends, neighbors, pets, livestock, and other farm animals being rescued by boats and shuttled off to safety.
      Noah did the same thing, but just scaled up in size.

    • @TheBeingReal
      @TheBeingReal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmoore7975 Always impressive the extent people will go to guess/suppose/assume to try to justify a story.
      Where do you come up with the 70-100 species? Are you saying this boat was just in a river or existing sea? Noah lived 600 years?
      If you believe the bible is the inerrant word of god, how do you get to re-interperate the word “world” as just being localized? That’s a long in the tooth appologist trick on word play.
      Regardless, the Noah story is just another compilation of works by earlier civilizations than the gospel writers.

  • @danbreeden8738
    @danbreeden8738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the music thank you derek for making this accssable

  • @shookreeseeree4
    @shookreeseeree4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video.. awesome graphics..tks Derek.

  • @Barnaby_Wilde
    @Barnaby_Wilde 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These are top notch videos man. Thank you.

  • @randallfamily9636
    @randallfamily9636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hay Derek we salute you

  • @ravenkamalioneplus
    @ravenkamalioneplus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was fantastic. Looking forward to Nimrod.

  • @michellecardenas6072
    @michellecardenas6072 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. You just got a NEW SUB right here! ❤

  • @dantallman5345
    @dantallman5345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Amazing piece of work, I can only imagine the amount of time to make this. Besides researching the content and writing, there must be endless hours spent mastering the various production and graphics tools employed here.
    The look into the Biblical occurrences of rare foreign cognates, their frequency and context, and the implications of that was really interesting. I had never seen the three ANE flood myths discussed pretty completely in one place and juxtaposed to the Noah story. That is really impactful. Well played sir.

  • @HeidiSue60
    @HeidiSue60 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Love this video. One of the first things I learned about as a Bible student back in the day was the universality of flood stories. There is a flood story in every culture, from Mesopotamia, to Native American, to Celtic. AND...there is geological evidence of a huge deluge that occured when an asteroid struck the earth, melting the north pole ice cap and sending melt out across the world (not the entire globe, but across much of the northern hemisphere)

    • @eprd313
      @eprd313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Where's the evidence?

    • @Debiruman1666
      @Debiruman1666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If what you say happened, it happened at a time men didn't even exist, there's no trace of such an event in the recent history, and by "recent", I mean... like that past couple million years... what you say kinda ressembles the K-Pg extinction, the asteroid that led dinosaurs to extinction, and the asteroid struck in what is now the mexican coast...
      There's flood myths everywhere for at least two reson :
      1°) Civilizations, ALL of them, always spawn by at least a river... so they're all exposed to floods, especially at a time where there was no technology to offset that.
      2°) Because myths travel with men, they are spread through exchanges, assimilation etc... as for example, the near-estern/mediteranean/biblical flood myths aren't a multitude of separate myths spawned by each civilisation, but one original myth which has been spread through different civlizations, evolving during hundred/slash thousands years before being written for the first time by the mesopotamians, which versions serves as a reference for the biblical version, the greek version etc, each one with their own flavor and twist.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you so much!

    • @ericreed4535
      @ericreed4535 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The dates of the "local" floods you talk about don't add up. The mental gymnastics believers will try to hold a myth as real is surprising. Let it go already 😂.

    • @HeidiSue60
      @HeidiSue60 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ericreed4535 and where do all these myths come from? It’s a flat fact that every human prehistory has a flood story. The earth is destroyed in a massive flood and a human or humans, or a god, is saved. Usually in a boat but I’ve read one flood story where the vessel was a log.

  • @levistromblad2454
    @levistromblad2454 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Simply amazing content. This channel is what I have been waiting for! I love how obvious you make this evidence to see. I should have seen it long ago😮

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much for this compliment!

  • @carlwallace448
    @carlwallace448 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome bro.. 🎉🎉

  • @richardpeterson6813
    @richardpeterson6813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What an excellent presentation. The production, the direction the content, really open up the truth for a better understanding of this crucial knowledge. I intend to watch the video again because I'm sure I've missed things the first time around. And I look forward to exploring some more of your work. Rock on with your bad self!

  • @theitineranthistorian2024
    @theitineranthistorian2024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    derek, you are changing every time i tune in. you have shit figured out with credentials, academic and human. i learn with common sense, a beautiful journey out of darkness.

  • @loubatts
    @loubatts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great job, derek!!

  • @brunoberardi4815
    @brunoberardi4815 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job, awesome information for the initiates. There is a big online presence of scholars who are exposing the exact same information

  • @harveywabbit9541
    @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Another flood story which became the two angels visiting Lot and his wife.
    In Ovid's Metamorphoses, Baucis and Philemon were an old married couple in the region of Tyana, which Ovid places in Phrygia, and the only ones in their town to welcome disguised gods Zeus and Hermes (in Roman mythology, Jupiter/Barnabas and Mercury/Paul respectively), thus embodying the pious exercise of hospitality, the ritualized guest-friendship termed xenia, or theoxenia when a god was involved.
    Zeus and Hermes came disguised as ordinary peasants, and began asking the people of the town for a place to sleep that night. They had been rejected by all, "so wicked were the people of that land," when at last they came to Baucis and Philemon's simple rustic cottage. Though the couple were poor, their generosity far surpassed that of their rich neighbors, among whom the gods found “doors bolted and no word of kindness."
    After serving the two guests food and wine (which Ovid depicts with pleasure in the details), Baucis noticed that, although she had refilled her guest's beech wood cups many times, the pitcher was still full (from which derives the phrase "Hermes' Pitcher"). Realizing that her guests were gods, she and her husband "raised their hands in supplication and implored indulgence for their simple home and fare." Philemon thought of catching and killing the goose that guarded their house and making it into a meal, but when he went to do so, it ran to safety in Zeus's lap. Zeus said they need not slay the goose and that they should leave the town. This was because he was going to destroy the town and all those who had turned them away and not provided due hospitality. He told Baucis and Philemon to climb the mountain with him and Hermes and not to turn back until they reached the top.
    After climbing to the summit ("as far as an arrow could shoot in one pull"), Baucis and Philemon looked back on their town and saw that it had been destroyed by a flood and that Zeus had turned their cottage into an ornate temple. The couple's wish to be guardians of the temple was granted. They also asked that when time came for one of them to die, that the other would die as well. Upon their death, the couple were changed into an intertwining pair of trees, an oak and a linden, standing in the deserted boggy terrain.
    The three angels who visited Abraham and Sarah were Jupiter, Mercury, and Neptune.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1EY3King
      Ezekiel 16.49-50.
      ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

    • @markuse3472
      @markuse3472 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1. Adam and Eve had more sons and daughters even as Cain and Abel were learning to walk. It was their mission to populate the Earth and that means instructing their offspring to do the same. Cain and Abel knew and followed suit, and so did everyone born after them. Being so close to perfection, and according to Gods will, being cousins or aunts was not known as such back then: it was normal according to Gods will. The first set of people knew Jehovah and kept having children. These early people lived many hundreds of years so Cain was able to go and build a city, likely a small city. He and they all knew Earth's population was and kept growing, that is why Cain feared having been cursed. You guys are funny. 2. Where did you get the idea that Lot was suppose to be the last person on Earth? Moving on, there are over 200 flood stories globally so, reason states it must have come from a real event. The Chinese written words or characters, a language 1000's of years old, a nation apposed to religion specially against Abrahamic ones, has not paid attention to this that, many of their characters or words or terms EXPLAINS many events that took place in THE BIBLE'S GENESIS not from any other of your actual myth stories. You guys are delusional. 3. It is all very consistent. There are man-made cities and monuments being found all over the globe under the ocean's canopy (in the oceans), clearly pointing at a human population that throws off current science and history on these matters. 4. Some songs in the 1900's and even in our 2000's, were copied because the writers or composers of those songs did not make them legally theirs or didn't do so fast enough. This doesn't mean that just because God didn't have his word written complete from Noah, it doesn't mean the events and people in the Bible didn't exist or that they copied other stories, it could actually mean the Bible's stories happened and the rest of the stories written in other books came from The Bible's actual accounts and history. The Bible's written word never suggests it's a myth but always as actual history and as that history continues throughout all the books it never fails: todays science keeps making it clear that the Bible is fact and accurate, while the other books from the world are overwhelmingly myths and fantasies. 5. The faithful servants of God of ancient times are Alive because (1) Gods word is alive and (2) because they will be resurrected they have never died. 6. The Bible is the only ancient historical and religious book that never fails from beginning to end to support and complement every other book in it, every history in it, every place and people in it. You guys are hilarious. You all know this is the truth, this is real. "The Great Tribulation" will soon come and you, too, know this. You have time right now to pray to God and ask him to help you find him, the one and only True and Living God. His people will find you. "The dragon...the one called Satan...was hurled down to earth, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time." Satan and the demons are out like 'roaring lions, seeking to devour someone.' Well, they are succeeding all over the world, just look around. But there are some who will do Gods will no matter what.

    • @Life1x2
      @Life1x2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markuse3472 Well said!!! I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.

    • @Esoteric.Autochthon
      @Esoteric.Autochthon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@markuse3472God is not real.

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This video is extremely interesting. I can figured the flood story of the Old Testament was based on other myths.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You will find it in Ovid's Metamorphoses where Zeus and Hermes visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucis).

    • @elizabethwarman9028
      @elizabethwarman9028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harveywabbit9541 thank you, I will look into that.

    • @waylonmccellon7779
      @waylonmccellon7779 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The laws of Hammurabi are very interesting

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@waylonmccellon7779
      ,,,and the 42 negative confessions.

    • @waylonmccellon7779
      @waylonmccellon7779 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@harveywabbit9541 yes

  • @vickonstark7365
    @vickonstark7365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m loving these! Way to go Derek!

  • @larry3591
    @larry3591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awsome Derek

  • @joykelley8671
    @joykelley8671 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    These videos are awesome! So well put together! Thank you so much, Derek!

  • @splunge743
    @splunge743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I believe that the deep voiced characters used in this video are none other than our host, Derrick. Great video!

  • @deebrown5744
    @deebrown5744 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting

  • @jerryingram9540
    @jerryingram9540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative!

  • @MettleHurlant
    @MettleHurlant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I can’t believe anyone would think this is a true story. I think there was flooding after the last ice age and stories got passed down through the ages. Civilizations were destroyed and became part of the mythology of Gilgamesh, Noah, and Atlantis. People didn’t write factual historical accounts back then, they created stories about events and embellished to make them exciting. We still do this in our entertainment media. I always compare the Old Testament to Forrest Gump, with the Hebrews writing themselves into epic stories the way Forrest happened to be at major events.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Noah's ark/arc is huge, it stretches from the autumn equinox to the spring equinox and consists of six constellations aka Libra thru Pisces. This is also the six nights/signs/months found in Genesis one.
      The constellations will be modified a bit to describe Scorpio thru Pisces as the winter constellations with Scorpio as the leader of these months (Rev 9). Noah (Earth) will enter the ark/arc at every autumn equinox and will depart the arc at the spring equinox. He will again enter the arc at our next autumn equinox.

    • @MettleHurlant
      @MettleHurlant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@harveywabbit9541 I love this astrotheological explanation as well. That was the origin of all religions. Imagine looking up at the sky and contemplating your place in the universe. I would feel insignificant compared to the sun, moon and stars. They had to plan their lives according to these heavenly bodies so it’s no wonder that it was woven into their mythology.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MettleHurlant
      The Origin of All Religious Worship, Charles F. Dupuis.

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You TODAY live in the year of our Lord Jesus Christ 2023 as FORETOLD by a 7 day week AS WRITTEN. The Jews didn't evangelize.
      th-cam.com/video/InIFjzI2Mvk/w-d-xo.html

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you consider the "world" and everything that exists in it to those people in those times consists of an area along the Euphrates and a bit of the Eastern Mediterranean, it makes it easy to understand all the animals in that area comprises of approximately 70 to 100 species and can be accommodated by a medium-large boat with room to spare.
      That is the entire "world" to them. They cannot write about what they did not know, and we know they didn't because everything else that was written is completely within the confines of that same area, so it only makes sense that is also where all the animals of their world lived that could be gathered up.
      And there are plenty of modern-day analogues for us to reference. Anytime you see on the news about a big rain anywhere on earth, you always see footage of some farmer/rancher with their family friends, neighbors, pets, livestock, and other farm animals being rescued by boats and shuttled off to safety.
      Noah did the same thing, but just scaled up in size.

  • @sanmcnellis94
    @sanmcnellis94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    MV is becoming a professional production. You're building the #1 go-to site for religious truth.

    • @daviddurango9562
      @daviddurango9562 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is wickedness defined when Moses and the Ten Commandments didn't come along for 2 thousand more years?
      The Bible is pure BS.

    • @TruckTruck-gu9vs
      @TruckTruck-gu9vs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@daviddurango9562the Bible doesn't give a lot of details of life before the flood. But it does say that people who had a relationship with God lived from Creation to the time of Moses. So the issue is with your worldview, not the Biblical text.

  • @pablito4762
    @pablito4762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video with " The Witcher Wild Hunt" music :D

  • @thefnaffan2
    @thefnaffan2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was awesome

  • @borodel619
    @borodel619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Question: Rudolf steiner talks about lucifer and ahriman. Is enki the same as lucifer, and ahriman the same as enlil?
    What about the great flood, 12.000 ears ago? Was this when the moon appears near the earth? I heard that there was a time that there was no moon.

  • @uncleanunicorn4571
    @uncleanunicorn4571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Perfect to watch after visiting Ken Ham's creationist Looney Tunes Ark Park!

  • @GeorgekwessiDavis
    @GeorgekwessiDavis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic presentation

  • @marshlightening
    @marshlightening 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The myth was spread from Mesopotamia via trading routes (which were extensive). Only coastal civilizations had the myth. It derived from two sources. There is a geological anomaly on Mount Ararat that resembles a vast boat. Obviously shepherds and travellers would have seen this and (in a time before Petrology) would assume it was the remains of a giant boat. Also the floods that hit Mesopotamia. (One localised flood in particular).

    • @laneneal3510
      @laneneal3510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Most stories were verbal. As in telephone (the game). We can see the outcome.

    • @davidsmith-uw2ci
      @davidsmith-uw2ci 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It makes sense that Secluded tribes that didn't know anything about the size of the world and knew nothing about other countries/Continents and only knew their own region and a local river floods and destroys everything they ever knew of course they would think the whole entire world was destroyed in a flood. In the early history of mankind everyone thought they were the center of everything till we learned how to get over and around mountains and across oceans and started finding other cultures on different continents.

    • @marshlightening
      @marshlightening 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1EY3King No, but it is a good source. I bought two amazing books about 40 years back on ancient transcripts.

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's nonsense.
      The King James Bible is Perfect.
      th-cam.com/video/InIFjzI2Mvk/w-d-xo.html

    • @HeleniqueToday
      @HeleniqueToday 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the boat ruins on mount ararat were examined by a team of archeologists from 2 different countries. it truly is the wreckage of a boat. you can probably even see the videos about it here on youtube. facts. not out-dated anti-theological guesswork.
      🐐🐐🐪🐪🐏🐑

  • @walterfristoe4643
    @walterfristoe4643 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think the Flood story came from the flooding of the Black Sea region of the world thousands of years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea broke through where Istanbul is today.

  • @dave3657
    @dave3657 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well done.

  • @goro1160
    @goro1160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video 🎉

  • @lisaspikes4291
    @lisaspikes4291 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Apparently, there was a huge, devastating flood in the Mediterranean area back in the day. A huge chunk of land collapsed and flooded a large area. I just wish I could remember where it was.
    Anyway, I suspect that the flood myths came from this event. Made bigger and more detailed as the story was told over and over again. The people deduced that it was their god that did it, rather than regular earthly events. Because they didn’t know any better.

    • @HeidiSue60
      @HeidiSue60 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      there is also evidence ... can't remember the details ... of a major deluge occuring after an asteroid strike at the end of SOME ice age or other. Or beginning of an Ice Age? maybe? Anyway, geological evidence exists that there was a huge melting of the polar ice cap, and an ensuing flood as all this ice melted quickly. Not just the Mediterranean was affected. The flood story is universal. All cultures have ancient myths about a massive flood that destroyed everything. Even Aboriginal Australian natives have such a story (deep in the southern hemisphere)

    • @kdaviper
      @kdaviper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Flooding was very common in mesopotamia. That's one reason the lands in the area were so fertile in the first place

    • @eprd313
      @eprd313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@HeidiSue60do you have the study that "discovered" this? at best a few kilometers of coastal areas was flooded if that was the case. There's simply no way that the whole earth could be flooded killing all land living beings except those that rode an ark, because there's not enough water in the ice caps, because the number of species that exist simply are impossible to fit by pairs even in our largest modern ships and evolution isn't that fast paced.

    • @user61512
      @user61512 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A meteor or a natural disaster could have caused a flood.
      Those are things that would scare the people to think it a gods wrath.
      We have knowledge of meteors and other natural diasters.
      Flood, torrential storms, , tornadoes etc.
      We know about thrm and can track them now.
      Imagine if we had knowledge of these things, we would not understand.
      We would think the sky was falling.

    • @Sanddreams33
      @Sanddreams33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @lisaspikes4291 You're thinking of the Minoan eruption in 1600 BC that destroyed part of Thera (Santorini). There was a documentary by Simcha Jacobovici - The Exodus Decoded, where he argues that all the plagues of Egypt can be explained by the eruption and its consequences

  • @roddychristodoulou9111
    @roddychristodoulou9111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Outstanding video , this has to be one of the best videos on the subject of Noah's ark .
    I've been through all my life never believing in the story of the flood .
    For the simple reason of 40 days and 40 nights , there are places on earth where it rain for much longer than this and we see no flood .
    Had the story said 40 weeks or even 40 months then it's a whole new ball game .

    • @davidjanbaz7728
      @davidjanbaz7728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      " 40 days and 40 nights" is a Hebrew idiom of just a long time : it not a literal 40 × 24 hour days !
      The Flood of Noah was a large Regional flood over the whole Middle East: that was Their whole earth: it doesn't mean Global.

    • @JamesRichardWiley
      @JamesRichardWiley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidjanbaz7728 No research needed - just insert 40 days and 40 nights and the faithful will believe it.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JamesRichardWiley
      Don't forget Lent.

    • @ericreed4535
      @ericreed4535 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@davidjanbaz7728Do you feel that Jesus's comments on the subject lean local or global? The Mormons doubled down on the global option as they think the garden of Eden was in Missouri in the US. Best geological evidence and explanations strongly suggest it didn't happen.

  • @prakashpetta6221
    @prakashpetta6221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good. Informative. Issue more like this. We are interested to knw the realities (truths) Thank you so much.

  • @blueboi5140
    @blueboi5140 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That opening made me wanna swing a sliver sword at monsters. Derek is gonna say my name all episode.

  • @jazzffer
    @jazzffer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shitty cruise, but great buffet. -- The Lion

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the upload, Derek

  • @James-wv3hx
    @James-wv3hx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was 4 years old it all sounded like b.s. to me. Thanks for this experience 🙏

    • @Wealthismybirthright
      @Wealthismybirthright 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knew it too. It just never made any type of sense. I had relatives who I would visit from time to time, who would do their best to indoctrinate me into that religious culture & life perspectives.

  • @DigitalHammurabi
    @DigitalHammurabi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow…. This was so well done. You must teach me how to to produce like this.

  • @GlobeHackers
    @GlobeHackers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It's always a pleasure to encounter new evidence-based perspectives on these ancient stories. However, the information here will only intrigue people already searching for the origins of myths and stories behind the literature. It won't change anyone else's mind. If I send an apologist or a simple, faithful servant of this or that sect this video, they won't even bother to spend a gram of caloric energy thinking about it.

    • @soaringeagle2360
      @soaringeagle2360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you plant a seed it's out of sight out of mind and you don't know what's happening until it happens.

    • @GlobeHackers
      @GlobeHackers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@soaringeagle2360 And if the ground is not furtil?

    • @soaringeagle2360
      @soaringeagle2360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GlobeHackers you miss the point

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you consider the "world" and everything that exists in it to those people in those times consists of an area along the Euphrates and a bit of the Eastern Mediterranean, it makes it easy to understand all the animals in that area comprises of approximately 70 to 100 species and can be accommodated by a medium-large boat with room to spare.
      That is the entire "world" to them. They cannot write about what they did not know, and we know they didn't because everything else that was written is completely within the confines of that same area, so it only makes sense that is also where all the animals of their world lived that could be gathered up.
      And there are plenty of modern-day analogues for us to reference. Anytime you see on the news about a big rain anywhere on earth, you always see footage of some farmer/rancher with their family friends, neighbors, pets, livestock, and other farm animals being rescued by boats and shuttled off to safety.
      Noah did the same thing, but just scaled up in size.

  • @fatimacelzo8849
    @fatimacelzo8849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice story! absolutely a beautiful myth!

  • @aldenwilliams
    @aldenwilliams 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great

  • @seanjjordan
    @seanjjordan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Overall, this is a great synthesis of the scholarship and nicely produced.
    But (and I say this with considerable love and respect for what you do with MythVision!) I laughed out loud when the chipmunk voice started near the end. It was jarring and really undercut the serious, dramatic tone of the video. It would have been completely unremarkable to just read the text in your own voice.
    If voiceovers are needed, surely there are members of the community who could provide some clips in the appropriate voice and tone. I know it's a technical challenge, but it would be vastly superior to modulating your own voice.
    Keep up the great work! Can't wait for the Nimrod episode.

  • @Azupiru
    @Azupiru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People who are not familiar with some of these things should note that Akkadian is a "Semitic" language, as is Hebrew, and the term Semitic is a Hebrew term derived from the name of one of Noah's children. However, the original "Semitic" flood hero was Utnapishtim because the napishtim of the name is a "Semitic" word given in name to a character attested long before "Noah," and Utnapishtim did not have a son named Shem (whence Semite). The Hebrew texts were produced deceptively in an attempt to lay the foundation of the ethno-religious cult of "Yahweh."
    If one word is in question, then all names and words in their texts are in question. I think we should begin by doing away with the term Semitic, since it is clearly a Judeo-centric falsity, and instead we should refer to these groups as Subartan, as the people who entered Sumer FROM THE EAST were not the descendants of "Noah" but rather the people of Subartu. And if you read "Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta" you will see the historical foundation of intercultural and interreligious conflict as seated in the middle east, and there is a clear line from where we are now, through the foundation of the Hebraic lie, to Sumer and its conflict with the Subartan "Semitic" tribes to the north and East.

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shem = Sun.
      Shem = Sagittarius (Jupiter/Fire), Capricorn (Vesta/Earth) Aquarius (Juno/Air), and Pisces (Neptune/Water). Lud is one with Canaan (Scorpio).

    • @Azupiru
      @Azupiru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harveywabbit9541 I understand the confusion, but the name Shem was derived from the word for "name" and it was done so for ethno-polemical reasons. In Sumerian, "name" was MU, which was referred to in the earliest attested Semitic language at Ebla, and in Akkadian as šumu. To make Noah's son named "Name" after the destruction of mankind sets this Judaically derived figure as the source of "Semitic" languages and "Semitic" people, but this was a grievous lie that many people believe to this day.
      Also, the Hebraic tradition is highly focused on naming. One of their names for God is HaShem, "The Name." The Hebrew scriptures almost obsess over words and names. Anyway, this same sign for MU was used for the word meaning "to grow" and it is from that Sumerian sign that The Branch of Zechariah was derived, semach, from MU, SIMU, and HILI, all of which were referred to either by semach or in relation to it. There is a cuneiformic logic underlying the Hebrew scriptures

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Azupiru
      Shem (a name) was applied to winter because of its unproductiveness. This season embraced November, December, January and February. Japheth signifies addition and denoted spring, because daring this season the days lengthen and the crops grow. Spring included March, April, May and June. Ham means heat, and, therefore, fittingly represents summer, which took in the remainder of the year - July, August, September and October (See George Rawlinson’s Herodotus, vol. 2, p. 237.)
      The age of each of these three sons was limited to a hundred and twenty years (Gen. 6:3.) The Hebrew shanah, here translated years, may with greater propriety be rendered days, since its root means simply to repeat, or to do a second time. (Gesenius Heb. Lex., p. 1092.) Thus, the combined ages of these three sons will equal 360 years, the exact number of degrees in the circle of the year.
      ' ' To these three sons was assigned the year, and each Ruled o'er his portion of the vassal world (year), into three parts divided; for the earth into three parts had been by Heaven's decree Severed." - Jacob Bryant's Mythology, vol. 4, p. 102.
      In Gen. 10. 22, we find Shem had five sons: Elam, Asshur, Aphaxad, Lud and Aram. They were born to him after the Flood (Gen. 10.1), and probably for this special use of the Babylonians. This understood, of course, they may all be readily identified with these five winter months as now reconstructed, and represented by Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricornus, Aquarius and Pisces, thus: "Elam," says Fuerst (Heb. Lex., p. 1040), " stands for paras "= Persian for horseman = Sagittarius; Asshur, one who mounts up = Capricornus, the goat, an animal famous in this direction; Aphaxad, according to Philo, the Jew (Bohn’s Philo, vol. 2. p. 275), is - "he disturbs sorrow" = Aquarius = Moses, who disturbed Pharaoh; Lud was a descendant of Ham, and therefore = Scorpio; and Aram = high = Pisces, the last of the winter months, according to any arrangement now known.

    • @jennifersilves4195
      @jennifersilves4195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the Sumerian account.
      Sumerian is not a Semitic language.

    • @Azupiru
      @Azupiru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jennifersilves4195 Sumerian is not a Semitic language, but he's discussing the Semitic name for the flood hero, Utnapishtim, represented by two logograms, UD and ZI, in that order. The Sumerian name for the flood hero is Ziusudra, represented by ZI and UD, in that order. But rest assured, Utnapishtim is a Semitic name. The Semitic root npš is used frequently in the Hebrew texts to refer to 'living things,' and npš is the Semitic root represented by the Sumerogram ZI.

  • @jamesdownard1510
    @jamesdownard1510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice summary. To be fair, the scholarly literature here has been around for more decades than I've been around. The upshot is how little of it is known to those who draw on creationist apologetics, who when they mention bits of it at all, dump on it faster than the Discovery Institute runs from genetics.

    • @jamesdownard1510
      @jamesdownard1510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lots of neat new details here, which will be noted in the Tales of the Big Slosh chapter of Vol 2 of "The Rocks Were There" on the errors of creationism.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @jamesdownard1510
      @jamesdownard1510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MythVisionPodcast The dove perching thing in particular :)

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you consider the "world" and everything that exists in it to those people in those times consists of an area along the Euphrates and a bit of the Eastern Mediterranean, it makes it easy to understand all the animals in that area comprises of approximately 70 to 100 species and can be accommodated by a medium-large boat with room to spare.
      That is the entire "world" to them. They cannot write about what they did not know, and we know they didn't because everything else that was written is completely within the confines of that same area, so it only makes sense that is also where all the animals of their world lived that could be gathered up.
      And there are plenty of modern-day analogues for us to reference. Anytime you see on the news about a big rain anywhere on earth, you always see footage of some farmer/rancher with their family friends, neighbors, pets, livestock, and other farm animals being rescued by boats and shuttled off to safety.
      Noah did the same thing, but just scaled up in size.

    • @jamesdownard1510
      @jamesdownard1510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelmoore7975 Indeed, it's more than plausible that someone (or even more than one) loaded up a reed boat with the farm animals, and that some of that lore filtered into the solitary critter saver tales circulating in flood-prone Mesopotamia, which then got cribbed by the Hebrews in their Bible.

  • @pinayvacavilleUSA
    @pinayvacavilleUSA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love watching your videos and I learned so much , keep up the good job ❤️

  • @ikechristopher81
    @ikechristopher81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From all indications these gods were not all knowing...perhaps there even look like humans of some kind.

  • @chaorrottai
    @chaorrottai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    it's more than that with Cain and Abel, there's a better genesis account in the book of Jasher, which has many more details and fleshed out the story much better. The sacrifice was the straw that broke the camels back.
    Cain was plopwing the field manually with no beasts of burden to help and abel was grazing his flock on Cain's crops. Cain asked him to stop and then they got into an argument about it, Cain hit Abel with the plow sheer on the head in the heat of it. Then he broke down crying realising what had just happened and burried the body in fear and shame. When god asked him about it, he lashed out, so god cursed him, but it was a mild curse and Cain lived a pretty good life after, the curse was merely that Thistles would always grow in his gardens and farm fields like weeds.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting stories.

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's not biblical. Abel is keeper of SHEEP or the righteous shepherd who brings the blood of the lamb. Cain brings his works done under the curse. God had no respect for Cain's offering.

    • @lannguyen-pu1db
      @lannguyen-pu1db 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MichaelAChristian1 does this god hate vegetables, vegetarians and vegans? Eeeeeew. Not very nice, innit?

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lannguyen-pu1db No flesh is justified by the deeds of the law.

  • @Solom0n2
    @Solom0n2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    120K SUBS, WE ARE MYTHVISION

  • @brentoniverson1020
    @brentoniverson1020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Intertextuality & Motifs 💯 💪🏿

  • @RobertHollander
    @RobertHollander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    This is great work. I see that you credit Dr. Josh for the details of the stories. What I don't see (and maybe it's just a case of me not seeing it), who is creator of all these countless scenes and who provides the music? This is an incredible visual and audio production. I would assume this is the work of a talented team of artists.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I actually edited all of the visuals myself, and the music is from Witcher 3, which is public domain. Thank you for such a positive compliment.

    • @WayWalker3
      @WayWalker3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@MythVisionPodcast Nice work Derek. Thanks for all your great work in providing such professionally researched material to explain so many of the biblical myths and beliefs.

    • @RobertHollander
      @RobertHollander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MythVisionPodcast Your editing is brilliant, really. How were the graphics generated?.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@RobertHollander some of the images were made using a program called midjourney my friend.

    • @MythVisionPodcast
      @MythVisionPodcast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Pentacular2005 thank you so much!

  • @Jay-sr8ge
    @Jay-sr8ge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love your podcasts, but words can't explain how much I appreciate these episodes! It's less than a year now since I've opened up to the possibility that the biblical god may not be the one true god, and that the bible could be a compilation of myths. Let me tell you... These videos are a gold mine to people like me who know the scriptures but had doubts about their devine authorship.

    • @ericreed4535
      @ericreed4535 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No credible evidence that the power responsible for the universe has had any involvement in human history and that they look like the latest iteration of hominid. Intellectual freedom and honesty are rewarding enough. Humans have a problem with death and they love to feel superior to other humans. This is why we have religion. It's geographic, just like language and other "culture".

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like this new narration style.

  • @amodernalchemist432
    @amodernalchemist432 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is that Sadhguru in the thumbnail for this vid!? 😆

  • @carminefragione4710
    @carminefragione4710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Ark was never called a Boat. Moses was placed in a woven basket used by day laborers called an Ark. . The idea of an ark alludes to a woman's womb, a place of conception , carrying the unborn child for a term of preparing for an birth . A woven basket was made waterproof by covering the reeds woven into a basket with pitch, a petroleum or tar. So an Ark is part of a bucket brigade work line of day laborers like a convoy or train moving over the land, passing buckets of materials along the line say water in jugs from the river to the canal or cistern. Convoy or Flotilla of containers in a line , tied together, in a unitized construction , that all float or are carried in a processional march, like a wagon train, or say a ship at sea sunk but all the cargo containers were waterproof and continued to float on the sea, and being tied together, as a flotilla , the convoy continues the journey without sinking, and lands upon a shore where the convoy builds a new civilization. So a CARAVAN be it sailing over the deserts or over the seas, as a convoy of vessels or say a group of women , who are carrying unborn children, are brought safetly to a new land where then their children are born o nthe land , having been carried in the water inside the womb of the woman. So tocarry in a basket or in a womb, or sealed container, that which can be taken along enroute as a procession , is alluding to what an ARK originally meant. The Ark of the Covenant carried by the Priests in the Exodus has the rhyme of being like the Ark of Noah, a WOMB or birthplace of a New Nation, in an organized Exodus or Convoy, a Flotilla or a Caravan, tied together in a labor like a bucket brigade passes along the buckets of water to throw on a fire, or carry large sums of materials over land an sea. So an ARK is not exactly a BOAT, or a SHIP, it is more like a CARRIAGE .

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but would a carriage float?

    • @stevedyches4635
      @stevedyches4635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting take on it. The mind is another place of conceptions, as in concepts. An immaculate conception of a virgin speaks of that which is born out of a mind that is pure in thought, benevolent, flawless, and such.

    • @carminefragione4710
      @carminefragione4710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevedyches4635 Sure, a pure thought, not distorted by any illusions, must mean a fully deterministic rule, something that cannot be changed, it must come to pass. It is inviolate.

    • @carminefragione4710
      @carminefragione4710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikev4621 Water is actually a heavy element, so any displacement that can block out the water, that same area of space, having no water, will float if the element used to fill that space is at all lighter than water. Anything with an air sac, large enough, will probably float.

    • @carminefragione4710
      @carminefragione4710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nicholastime1513 I stand corrected, it is a compound , not an element, but the reasoning was on key.

  • @Kimberly-lx4qy
    @Kimberly-lx4qy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The fact that the people all had common knowledge of creation and of the flood only makes it more true.

    • @CellThePerfectAndroid
      @CellThePerfectAndroid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Oh yes, people near each other having similiar myths makes the myths more truthful.

    • @ryanrevland4333
      @ryanrevland4333 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You believe the myths of Enki and Enlil are true?

    • @Kimberly-lx4qy
      @Kimberly-lx4qy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Curlas
      When you see Jesus from genesis thru revelation it becomes impossible for the bible to be just another myth. The historical timeframe of events written in the scriptures all pointing to Jesus over a span of 2,000 yrs. How could it be made up?

    • @CellThePerfectAndroid
      @CellThePerfectAndroid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Kimberly-lx4qy The authors of the New testament had acess to those books, we know basically nothing about the historical Jesus.
      The authors could have just write something that would link these two.
      Also, i see little to no signs of Jesus in the old testament, what i see is people applying some unrelated things to him.
      Also, it wasn't in a span of 2,000 years, mor like 600 at best, the earliest books were written around those times.
      It honestly just seems like some people took some myths, applied them to a real guy, and people believed it because they knew no better.

    • @davidspencer343
      @davidspencer343 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Chinese didn't know about the flood. They were fine. There was never a global flood

  • @TheGeorgeous
    @TheGeorgeous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Noah looks like Jaggi Vasudev a charlatan from India.

  • @truthseeker9108
    @truthseeker9108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have liked to hear the other versions that exist on earth regarding the flood. Thank you!

    • @harveywabbit9541
      @harveywabbit9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Noah's flood is the rainy season/winter. The bible writers mistranslated mabul (rainy) as flood. In Latin myth, this is Jupiter Pluvius.

  • @patricklechner1
    @patricklechner1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    MY MIIINNDDD

  • @yanntal954
    @yanntal954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I need some of these videos in Hebrew, just because I simply can't send this to my moms boyfriend who imposes Judaism on us :(
    He doesn't understand English

    • @yanntal954
      @yanntal954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nicholastime1513 Bingo!