Rotten Toy Hauler Rubber RV Roof Replacement
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Today I am back at Cassone's RV in Mesa, AZ. I had a local viewer reach out to me about replacing the roof on their 2006 NRG Toy Hauler due to tearing from branches and was also concerned about some possible rot at the front. I was too booked up to be able to commit to doing the whole job. The crew at Casssone's offer to make room and time to get it done in their busy schedule too. I was able to help quite a bit, along with the other 5 roofs this month.
Unfortunately, there was some wood rot at the front and we had to stablize the area as best as we could. Otherwise, this was a pretty standard EPDM/Rubber roof replacement.
Thanks for watching!
Cassone's RV
3032 E Main St
Mesa, AZ 85213
cassonesrv.com
rubber roof install kit
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rubber roof:
2:14 Lol! I was actually doing roof maintenance on my 2010 Keystone roof, so I took the molding off and put the rubber on top of the front cap because you’ve been right all a long. Can’t wait to see the next roofing video, very interesting content.
Thank you, I hope it goes well
I sure do like you explaining these troubles from poorly engineered RV's. Then watching the correct way to rebuild the RV with the best sealants and materials to use. Thank you James and Chad, great job. Happy trails!
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching! :)
the redo of roof was not better
I think it's great how you saved this toy hauler makes me want to go check my roof.
It's always a great idea!
Geeze I hate seeing that rotted wood. But you guys do an amazing job of making it better. Thanks James, Chad, Micah.
I enjoy watching you guy's fix these RV's, when I do a repair I never put back that crappy Insulation I replace it with R-Max foam Insulation it doesn't hold water or moisture.
Yes RV are good for holidays and good for something to do when at home, when you have to fix them. I have had four RV and a few delamination problems, now I have a 7.3m Iverco van . all steel body so no more rubber, wood or fibre glass issues. It might rust away.I do enjoy your vidoes.
They give me something to fix every day
What a great show. Thank you for all the great tips..
Glad you enjoyed it!
Looks like you guys have a lot of fun, even doing roofs.
I really enjoy working with them.
I have the exact same toy hauler with the exact situation. However the rot extends down the front of the trailer, not sure how far, but at least to the exterior service light.
After watching your videos (I can't count how many), I feel I could tackle this project.
I wish the manufacturers would take the time and do the little extras that would make all the difference. The rubber membrane over the metal is a no brainer!
Best of luck to you
The new roof is way better than the original factory job. It's too bad these manufacturers don't reach out to guys like you, and use your experience and knowledge to build better products.
Thank you, I wouldn't go that far, but it is good.
@@AZExpert That 2x2 that you installed, and the rubber membrane placed over the metal siding makes total logical sense.
My front right corner is soft too. 2011 KZ Durango fifth wheel. Caulking was cracked. Didn't see it last summer so I hope the roof deck will last 3 more years. I'll get it fixed when the rubber gets replaced.
Keep an eye on it
Mr. Bassette, RV ownership is no different than home ownership, maintenance is required to keep them in living condition. True an RV will not appreciate as a sticks and brick home, but the family and friends enjoyment we have had more than makes up for that!
Great job.
Thanks!
Looks like Micah can quit his day job..a full time camera man is calling!! Thats a LOT of roofs to do in a month -WOW!!! Nothing that the AZ Expert A-Team can't handle!!!
🤩😎🙋♀️🇨🇦‼️just noticed how many subs..another Wow!!!🤩
Another great repair.. well done
Thanks 👍
I watch this channel and keep finding really good reasons NOT to buy a RV
I know exactly what you mean
By no means am I defending RV manufactures by saying the following. That’s a good statement you make @ Ross Bassette. However I would submit to you that the same could be said for cars. Taken care of they last a long time. Ignored, even a car in its warranty period could be problematic. James has said it in many of his videos, “check your roof”.
Yeah . Only if you love projects and depreciation
@@vettepicking no one said an rv is an investment that appreciates, you want appreciation buy real estate. As far as an rv it’s a rolling home that hits winds of 50-75 mph often and yes it requires upkeep.
@@vettepicking this is also a neglect of the seals I understand the rubber roof was put under the front cap however if someone had used dicor on those seams regularly it would have not failed
EXCELLENT! Thanks for presenting
Fantastic job. Getting ready to do the EPDM roof on my truck camper soon. I know it needs some decking/framing repair as well.
Good job guys, it always makes a job easier when ya have good partners to work with,
I cant wait to do mine. just relaced the front half of my floor and redid my bedroom. roof is next with a power awning and new ac unit!! 2006 Coachman tbq24
Another great video James. Thank you 👍
Always good content!! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm fixing my 1970s EMPIRE, It has water damaged roof etc. I'm gutting the whole thing. It's an old camper/trailer and that's why I'm bringing it back to life, I'm old-school and like vintage.. I'm going retro on this bad boy....It's a fun little job and the best part I can make it exactly how I want it....Everything works so I'm going to sell whats good and put the money towards the new stuff....You Only Live Once People So Get Out And Camp....💯 🍀🙏🇺🇸💪‼️
Fun! Start a channel!
Amazing video ty. I have to do the same to my 5th wheel
Thank you! The best look yet for the details on the front molding. I know you did it just for me. Is the rubber roof the best choice merely because it lays flat on roofs that have contour? Oh, two part question: On my travel trailer the darn Geocel Proflex keeps coming loose at the belly molding on the front filon where it meets the fake diamond plate protection . I think I need to use something different or clean and prime it somehow. Suggestion? This will be the 3rd season I've had to reseal it.
I just love this stuff!! Thank you for sharing the process!!!
Thanks for watching! :)
@@AZExpert I’ve been binge watching!! So.. I’m sure you get this allot, but when it comes to 5th wheels.. what is your fav brand for quality?
Water management 😊 the inside is looking fairly good 👍 just don’t put your thumb through it.
While I do sympathize for you having one roof after another, I do enjoy watching the videos. Is that mean or sadistic when we enjoy watching you suffer? lol Another fun and educational video. I never understood how they can run romex with no protective plate on the framing or anything to protect the wiring. Stay safe and healthy, have fun.
Good guy Chad, NO...bad Chad. Guess who also has another roof to do too.....This guy....YAY !!!! Video will be coming.
👍👍 Good as new. No, better than new.
Thanks 👍
Great job. I have been learning a lot from your videos. Thank you.
Fantastic video, looks like you guys do great work! What is the rough cost for this job?
The job you guys Ave done is amazing 👏 I wonder how much does it cost??
Hi i guess if the wood was like weather sealed maybe it would slow the rot effect but it would add cost to the rig
I just discovered your channel and am loving the vibe! Great 8nfo and amazing skills all around.
Sometimes TH-cam gives me an amazing channel recommendation... Subbed
Welcome Aboard!
Nice work!
Thanks!
I think ya'll did a great job.
Thanks for watching! :)
Great video. Very detailed.
So I Just picked up a 2007 NRG. And it has the exact same issue. So I’ve torn the bedroom apart and fixing the framing to discover the roof plywood has rotten away.
Looking to replace the roof now, I’ve found the membrane from “recpro”. Question I had, are you using all the old moulding, any reason to replace it, if so, where can I buy it?
Also, out of curiosity what is an average cost that a contractor might charge for a job like this?
I have a 1988 37 ft Overland that I bought 5 yrs ago and I have replaced transmission, brakes, radiator, tires, AC units, painted it, one new windshield, been on the roof every 6 months but now have a leak I can't find the source of and learned a new roof should be installed every 10 or so yrs. This is probably the original roof! How much can I expect to pay and where should I take it? I live in Oregon.
Sweet job
thank you
Do you ever run the roof membrane down the front, to like the middle of the radius section then screw the trim bar down so the roof membrane completely come down over the front cap radius
Quick question, I needed to replace the roof on my 2010 Denali by Dutchmen. So I got everything remove on top and them got the rubber membrane removed. The roof is in fair shape, just a few places thank need repair. The wooden base is made out of 1/2 inch chipper board, not my favorite but I suspect cost was the reason. My problem is that the old glue is still very present, to the point of removing the soles of my old running shoes. Is there a product that can be used to remove it? Or is it just best to recover the roof with a thin plywood. If this is the case, what thickness would you recommend. Thank you for your time and all your great videos. Jean Roch from St-Jérôme, Qc Canada
I just realized in a couple of your re-roofing videos, you cut the vent pipes off, which probably makes it easier to lay the new material down, but how do you put new vent pipes up when done?
it's 1.5" ABS so a coupler/union just glues the vent pipe back together.
@16:53 you wouldn’t put down a layer of some type of sealant under the front cap before stapling it down.
What was the adhesive they used in the roof ? Any any recommendation on rubber product? I have 32 c class motorhome it need a roof would like to see how much material will cost me if I want to do it myself.
Would it be a good idea to reinforce the weakened ceiling by pouring epoxy on it from the top? That would strengthen it up.
I was going to ask exactly the same thing. 👍
Have a soft spot between the hallway and kitchen need a small info on what it mite be.
Seems like you guys could use another broom 😜
What maker does the best job on putting quality roof on class A?
On class C?
In your opinion what is best material or roof system to use on an A o C?
17:45 This is my jam
You show the profile of that metal strip at 23:46...is this the proper way to install the strip with the short side towards the front...or does it matter? I just pulled this same strip off my 2005 Jayco (Class C) because I suspected some water intrusion. Every (1.5") screw was severely rusted all the way down to the bottom. Some were so rusted, the heads broke off or were impossible to remove.
Seems like a little thinking on the manufacturer's part would prevent a lot of these situations. I do think a smart owner should keep an eye on those roofs too.
that is the frustrating part for me too about the builders
Why would they? People are willing to pay 80k for cardboard junk....if they have a 2 year warranty and rot out in 3 years what motivation does a builder have to do a better job?
What is the best roof sealant/caulk and what is the less expensive option that still works??
rationale for cap over membrane is for driving rain diversion, as you know. have you found that the membrane over cap is holding up just as well? is there anything in particular that one needs to pay closer attention to when doing it this way????
IT holds up perfectly and works the same way as the sidewall joint which has wind and rain driving against it at 70mph winds too
I have the exact same problem with my pull behind..... It needs a new roof with a soft spot at the front right corner.... How much does this project normally cost with labor and materials included? Thanks for any input!
What seam tape do you use for the plywood sheeting? It the same thing as drywall tape?
Agreed
Thanks for watching!
What type of stapler is used for the framing part that attatches 2x2s???
Thank you James! This is the exact fix I need to do on my 2006 Fleetwood Mallard, from a water intrusion in the same passenger front corner of the roof/metal seam. Before I watched this, I was pretty intimidated to try to take that apart, but I'm going to give it a shot. Question: The roof had been replaced in 2016, so the membrane itself is only about 5-6 years old. Can I roll something like Heng's on it to help protect it, or is that unnecessary? What would you reccomend? Thank you!
Ball park what’s a similar roof and structural repair go for. Do you have a reference for Cape Cod Boston area? Thanks
How do we know when to use nails or screws?
Round numbers, how much? Is it less the 10 grand? I could see 5 grand, but more the 10 and ouch…
Thanks James, I still enjoy the videos. Do you have a source for oversized plywood such as 4 ft X 9 ft ? Are most RV roofs 3/8 inch plywood ? Do you ever use marine grade ply and is it compatible with different adhesives ? JwgK Houston TX
I stick with standard sizes. You would have to special order that straight from the mill
Hello, thank you so much for your videos and explaining things!!! I just had a quick question that may be obvious but in the beginning of the video when you got up on the roof you pointed in the corner and talked about noticing that water was pooling there. Just wanted to ask is that one way to know you need a new roof or that what's underneath is probably rotted?
Not necessarily, but it is a good place to start looking
Thanks for the info!
I'm in the same situation.
Just curious what ya'll charged for such a job?
Sorry my guy, I never list prices as these are customer units
Good thing you are used to working with metal framing.Make some where there is none.
If owners would inspect and maintain their roofs,
much of this would never happen.
I agree, the molding didn't even look loose and the sealant was in good shape too though
I just scored a couple 40 footers with tipouts that need roof work, one moreso than the other.
Parked one lining up its sliding glass door next to my house kitchen that i can create a simple redneck hallway as a home addition.
The other might go behind the giant shop metal barn, and could rent it out to people who by property leasing contract agreement signedm must play drums or bass or keys reasonably well.
Nah it’s you tube. 😂❤
Are those staples your using????
I would like to know what kind of white glue you use for gluing epdm on wood. I thought the glue to use was contact cement on both surfaces. Thanks.
I didn't read ALL the comments but browsed them pretty well. I wonder about the damaged ceiling. It looks rotted too. Is that rot just going to stop now that it's been dried out and the roof repaired?
the panel is dry, tearing into the ceiling would have totaled the RV for comestic reasons only, ceilings are very difficult to replace well, this should last another 15 years if cared for
Probably more expensive to heat weld instead of sealer but heat welds hold up longer. Everything for a price though
Thanks for watching! :)
hi did not treatment the wood did not kill fungi why the ceiling could use Wood Hardener or wood preservatives because have to wait 24 hour to dry
Why do you use the rubber roof material instead of upgrading to like a PVC material?
One more question...do you use standard pneumatic staples to attach the ply to the structure or are they special such as galvanized or stainless ? What length is best for 3/8 " ply ? JwgK
Can you tell me a ball park figure what this job would cost ? ( curious ).
How much life can I add to my roof if I keep my RV stored under a shed while not using?
so i have a 26' terrry resort what would be guestimation on a rubber roof replacement
I like the dicor TPO that's what I put on my 26' Terry. I have a playlist for it. th-cam.com/play/PLaUXLoeMlBhdtL4tyqaeEFQRyjr_hpRLu.html
How much does something like that cost.
Hello were can I buy the rubber roof?
AZ expert I have a Question!! I have a 1997 37' Newmar Dutchstar Motorhome , 65k miles stored inside 8 months a year its whole life , how can i tell if I should replace the rubber roof , the roof looks great and has never had a leak , I've at times scraped off old sealant and replace it with Dicor self leveling sealant any suggestions ? this motorhome is like new inside ! with the best Steele seats I've ever sat in
if the roof looks good, not cracked and showing the black rubber layer, there is no reason to change it.
What size staples are you using?
I live in a small rv. It sucks. Mine is now 10 years old. It needs a new roof. I don't want to spend the money those rv repair shops charge.
I have a 2003 traveltrailer that's use for a deer camp & I have a 10' wide roll of epdm & want to put it completely over the old epdm. Anyone ever done this? DP 5/3 adhesive. Thanks
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So do have a question of sorts I bought a used 2006 Jayco and have a few soft spots in the roof I need to repair. Question was since I'm sure it's costly to replace the entire roof would I be able to pull up some sections and repair the needed spots till I can get the funds to redo the entire trailer front to back?
We are about to do the same on a 2003 jayco kiwi. These are saving me thousands.
New sub here :) Great video on this replacement. My roof needs a replacement but I'm wondering if there is a roof coating that you would suggest to get a few more years out of it?
Me thinks that answer would be..."No"! 😃
How much would this repair cost? I have a similar issue with my 07 Hornet Hideout.
Sorry I don't list prices for customer units.
@@AZExpert gotcha. I'm trying to get an idea of cost for my trailer.
Hey just watched your video re-sealing your roof. Been wondering about the product. Any white steaks after rain storm?
No
What's the cost to replace that roof
How do people afford to fix some of these units like the one you are working on, it Seems to labor intensive
Still cheaper then a new van tho..
Hi James , Manufacturer got the tpo adhesive on my front fiberglass cap . Slung by the roller or over spray I guess Tried mineral spirits , denatured alcohol both no . It's a trues gel coat , any suggestions for a cleaner ? Thanks 👍
Same thing happened to me. I couldn’t find anything. We ended up sanding and polishing it
What toy hauler manufacture do you recommend??? Thanks
20;31 dude needs to be higher up, jezuz buy the right height ladder, poor guy gonna break his back!!!
PS purchace price was $329,000 in 1997
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If I ran a motorhome manufacturer, you and your people would be able to name your price to design and oversee quality control.
That's very kind! Thank you
is there any way you and I could be in contact for a roof replacement on my family's rv?
to put some light on the situation. we have been living in it and dealing with persistent water coming in no mater what we do to stop it. it'll need some real work. and I would only trust a pro like you on it
What's the cost drifrent between the rubber roof and one that's white on both sides. Can't recall the name of it?
maybe $500 cheaper with TPO
How much would you charge to fix the sides you say its would be more than its worth but the value of all rvs have quadrupled since 2019 my 2001 keystone tailgator is valued at 3200 but I paid 6k and was lucky to get it there was a line of people looking at it I just agreed to buy it first. I had someone immediately offer me 7k. I posted it for 10k to see whT would happen and I was flooded with emails
Sorry I don't quote prices on here
It will be tight like a turtles ass, and that’s waterproof!
Can’t you just pour some clear acrylic on it 😬