I didn't buy a 10.2 a few years ago specifically because of the sliding down issue. I'm a klutz, and my bike repair stand is within striking distance of my car when parked in the garage. I didn't need my bike falling down one day and hitting my car. In the end I waited, back and forth trying to decide whether to buy a cheap stand or the 10.2. When I was finally ready to pull the trigger, bam, the 10.3 was out. Glad my indecision paid off!
Thanks for the video. I just realized I have my tool holder installed backwards. Ha ha no more pedals hitting it when I turn the cranks. What an idiot.
Great video straight to the point. The 10.2 lower clamp issue could be solved by just drilling some holes either side of the clamp and putting some bolts through.
i wish these were a lil more weather resistant. i had mine in the back yard and after a few rains it got really sticky and didn't want to fold down again; with out significant effort. lesson learned.
I have the 10.2 and have experienced the "folding forward" scenario with a bike on it. I really have to tighten that quite a lot as well as the head to keep the bike from rotating in the stand. My bikes range from 29 to 35 lbs, so not overly heavy. I don't really see a reason to upgrade.
@@LoveMTB im 183cm tall so it was never an issue I noticed. If anything, I usually have my 10.2 maxed out. I also liked that the 10 folded smaller than the 10.2, but I could be remembering wrong.
Before I got the pcs 9.2 work stand my poor bikes fell over and crashed more when I was working on them then riding them!!!! I have heavy ebikes and did have the issue of the stand tipping over,tightening the snot out of the holding bolt fixed it though...another high quality video thank you!!!
I like the Park tool very much, but there are so many cheaper alternatives on the market that have from little to absolutely no difference except the price. I bought mine no name bike stand for 50-60 euro. It's a bit different, but it has the same set of features and even more accessories included. If the Park tool wouldn't cost 4-5 times more expensive, I would definitely spend bit over 100 euro and go with my favorite brand. But I got no-name one, and I'm pretty happy.
I bought the Feedback Sports Pro-Elite about 10 years ago, worked fine for my 26” 30lb bike, but it doesn’t really handle my 34lb 29er that well. I actively work on my bike and trust that I know how to orient the legs so it isn’t so tippy. I like the way the Feedback folds away and there was no assembly required. I would buy the Park Tool, however, another video shows it more stable than feedback pro-elite.
@@paulfraley7990 Workstand stability is one big reason why I picked Park Tool. The weight is well-centered over its three-point footprint when a bike is on it.
I wonder why the QR lever at 9:23 was replaced with a knob? QR seems better & should work fine now that there's a spring popper to stop any inadvertent folding issues.
Crazy OCD question regarding step 3. Why is the nut on the outside instead of the inside? The bolt heads on the rest of the stand are on the outside, not the inside. I just put mine together today and even though the instructions are for the way you did it I reversed it.
I use feedback pro elite repair stand. It would be interesting to listen to reviews on park tool prs 25. Repair stand best buy for home bike maintenance
i have a pcs 9.2 repair stand which unlike the pcs 9.3, can upgrade the clamp to the 100-25d clamp so that's what ive done. Also added quick releases on the height adjustment, and added a repair stand work tray. i call it the franken stand
hi, great video- question. When I am cleaning my bike while on the stand, sometimes I need to get to the other side of the bike. Instead of walking around the stand which I currently do with my $60 stand, do I have to do this with this Park Tool stand or can something rotate so I can get to the other side of the bike? Thanks!
No issues at all, but never clamp über lightweight carbon seatposts, such as those from Darimo, MCFK, Schmolke Carbon and THM due to their insanely thin walls that can't take any clamping pressure. Some integrated seatposts can't be clamped too, like those on top-end Giants.
like any tool, what i recommend doing is buying the cheapest one you can find (reasonably, dont get a $10 bike stand lol) and if you find that you use the cheap one enough to break it or that you could use extra capabilities the cheap one doesnt have, then it will be worth while for you to invest in a decent one. personally i started a bike business with a home made wooden repair stand, and very quickly invested in the pcs 9.2 as it made work so much easier, and have since upgraded my 9.2 stand with new clamp etc
@@LoveMTB Definitely, that's something irritating. I am curious why PT chose a custom teardrop instead of a square tube, which is more robust, easily available and lower cost in raw material standpoint.
The best bike repair stand would have to have these two things going for it: an electric lift to hoist and clamp the bike to the stand automatically and be stable enough so the stand and bike can’t fall over. Would be a good deal if the price point was below two hundred dollars.
I've had this model for 3 years. It seizes up and won't rotate. Park Tool readily admits this is a fault of this model. Very frustrating - especially since Park Tool has a ineffective 'fix' for this problem.
ive had a similar issue with my stock 9.2 repair stand, and the same stand with 100-25d clamp installed. the fix i found for either case of : stand rotating even when tight, and stand seized and not rotating. moving when tight: if you have to tighten the handle extreme amounts to get the bike to stop moving, use carbon assembly compound on the clamps tapered interface. not moving when loosened: clamp a handlebar in the stand to use as a lever to break it free. look at the tapered sections. they are made in a two piece mould so there can be flashing on the joint. use a razor to remove the flashing if present. if problem still persists with no flashing, use a very small amount of antiseize or grease. too much antisieze or grease will create the slipping problem.
Это всё очень здорово. Но это невероятно дорогой инструмент! Во всяком случае у нас в России. Я лично использую стойку с Aliexpress. И для домашнего использования мне достаточно. Хотя у меня есть комплект шестигранных ключей ParkTool. И качество их на высоте.
to stop the old stand from rotating drill holes and pop a pin in there. those plastic parts WILL break and are overpriced to replace. i use cheapo sandbags for stability. no need to "upgrade" . Park Tool are shysters sometimes
It’s not the rotating style has the teardrop tube. And sandbags help with stability but what you saw in the video is overall twist or bending. Still useable don’t get me wrong 😑
Maybe. But its foldable. They could at least attach the folding mechanism and secure the needle bearing. also too much plastic in the packaging. i also wonder why the screw at the bottom/toptube section is sticking out so far. Potential risk of injury.
@@LoveMTB sold my PCS10.2 to get the PRS25 as the fold is slimmer and the rotating clamp can be remove. It also takes up lesser storage space after folding and feels lighter as it is aluminium.
I didn't buy a 10.2 a few years ago specifically because of the sliding down issue. I'm a klutz, and my bike repair stand is within striking distance of my car when parked in the garage. I didn't need my bike falling down one day and hitting my car. In the end I waited, back and forth trying to decide whether to buy a cheap stand or the 10.2. When I was finally ready to pull the trigger, bam, the 10.3 was out. Glad my indecision paid off!
Fyi, I just got a 10.3 stand. Mine was manufactured in China.
Thanks for the video. I just realized I have my tool holder installed backwards. Ha ha no more pedals hitting it when I turn the cranks. What an idiot.
Happens to the best of us😊
Great video straight to the point. The 10.2 lower clamp issue could be solved by just drilling some holes either side of the clamp and putting some bolts through.
That’s correct
I have version 10 from about 10 years ago. The teardrop shape is a smart innovation. Mine came with the tray but not the handlebar holder
Yeah I like that a lot
i wish these were a lil more weather resistant. i had mine in the back yard and after a few rains it got really sticky and didn't want to fold down again; with out significant effort. lesson learned.
@@LoveMTB it was on a stone patio, but still not a bad or impossible diagnosis.
You are sooo right about everything, except the best stand is the Feedback Sports Pro Elite 😁
All good😇
Great review and comparison. I have the Park Tool PRS-22.2 platform style stand. It’s different but I quite like it.
I have the 10.2 and have experienced the "folding forward" scenario with a bike on it. I really have to tighten that quite a lot as well as the head to keep the bike from rotating in the stand. My bikes range from 29 to 35 lbs, so not overly heavy. I don't really see a reason to upgrade.
the 10 is a way better stand but the 10.2 clamp is better
@@LoveMTB im 183cm tall so it was never an issue I noticed. If anything, I usually have my 10.2 maxed out. I also liked that the 10 folded smaller than the 10.2, but I could be remembering wrong.
Before I got the pcs 9.2 work stand my poor bikes fell over and crashed more when I was working on them then riding them!!!! I have heavy ebikes and did have the issue of the stand tipping over,tightening the snot out of the holding bolt fixed it though...another high quality video thank you!!!
I like the Park tool very much, but there are so many cheaper alternatives on the market that have from little to absolutely no difference except the price. I bought mine no name bike stand for 50-60 euro. It's a bit different, but it has the same set of features and even more accessories included. If the Park tool wouldn't cost 4-5 times more expensive, I would definitely spend bit over 100 euro and go with my favorite brand. But I got no-name one, and I'm pretty happy.
@@LoveMTB , you mentioned the good customer service in video and you pay for that too (I find it good as well).
I bought the Feedback Sports Pro-Elite about 10 years ago, worked fine for my 26” 30lb bike, but it doesn’t really handle my 34lb 29er that well. I actively work on my bike and trust that I know how to orient the legs so it isn’t so tippy. I like the way the Feedback folds away and there was no assembly required. I would buy the Park Tool, however, another video shows it more stable than feedback pro-elite.
@@paulfraley7990 Workstand stability is one big reason why I picked Park Tool. The weight is well-centered over its three-point footprint when a bike is on it.
3:40 you can change that knob with a seat clamp qr lever, I did mine its the same thread, much more convenient when setting it up
I wonder why the QR lever at 9:23 was replaced with a knob? QR seems better & should work fine now that there's a spring popper to stop any inadvertent folding issues.
Crazy OCD question regarding step 3. Why is the nut on the outside instead of the inside? The bolt heads on the rest of the stand are on the outside, not the inside. I just put mine together today and even though the instructions are for the way you did it I reversed it.
Beauty of options 😊
I use feedback pro elite repair stand.
It would be interesting to listen to reviews on park tool prs 25.
Repair stand best buy for home bike maintenance
perfect timing man!! I am looking to get a new workstand. mine is 15 years old not sure which one to get but this is a good option. Cheers
i have a pcs 9.2 repair stand which unlike the pcs 9.3, can upgrade the clamp to the 100-25d clamp so that's what ive done. Also added quick releases on the height adjustment, and added a repair stand work tray. i call it the franken stand
Great all-in-one review.
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Great review as usual. I'm very happy with my 2019 PCS-10.2.
Thank you for the great and informative video 👍
Glad it was helpful!👍
Got the feedbacksports ultralight, never looked for a parktool again
hi, great video- question. When I am cleaning my bike while on the stand, sometimes I need to get to the other side of the bike. Instead of walking around the stand which I currently do with my $60 stand, do I have to do this with this Park Tool stand or can something rotate so I can get to the other side of the bike? Thanks!
Whole point of this model is that is does not rotate so maybe go for older/ chheaper model? 🙄
@@LoveMTB no i meant rotate like the pro stands you see when they flip bike and clean all sides.
@@BarryJHoffman you can flip it upside down if that’s what you’re asking
It seems that angle upright tube and clamp holder are little bit different.
Could be big it’s minor differences
Are there any issues using this stand with a bike that has a carbon aero seat post? Is there a risk that it might damage the post?
No issues at all, but never clamp über lightweight carbon seatposts, such as those from Darimo, MCFK, Schmolke Carbon and THM due to their insanely thin walls that can't take any clamping pressure.
Some integrated seatposts can't be clamped too, like those on top-end Giants.
i've got a cheap £50 x-tools stand from crc that has lasted 4 years, those park tool ones look great but £300 is a lot!
@@LoveMTB agree there's a lot of slop and it's not as solid as the park tool.... maybe I will upgrade haha
prices have come down on the park tool - it's def. high quality but it's 3 times the price.
like any tool, what i recommend doing is buying the cheapest one you can find (reasonably, dont get a $10 bike stand lol) and if you find that you use the cheap one enough to break it or that you could use extra capabilities the cheap one doesnt have, then it will be worth while for you to invest in a decent one. personally i started a bike business with a home made wooden repair stand, and very quickly invested in the pcs 9.2 as it made work so much easier, and have since upgraded my 9.2 stand with new clamp etc
I am still using PCS-9 its so durable.
@@LoveMTB Definitely, that's something irritating. I am curious why PT chose a custom teardrop instead of a square tube, which is more robust, easily available and lower cost in raw material standpoint.
The best bike repair stand would have to have these two things going for it: an electric lift to hoist and clamp the bike to the stand automatically and be stable enough so the stand and bike can’t fall over. Would be a good deal if the price point was below two hundred dollars.
I've had this model for 3 years. It seizes up and won't rotate. Park Tool readily admits this is a fault of this model. Very frustrating - especially since Park Tool has a ineffective 'fix' for this problem.
Interestingly mine works well and better than previous model
ive had a similar issue with my stock 9.2 repair stand, and the same stand with 100-25d clamp installed. the fix i found for either case of : stand rotating even when tight, and stand seized and not rotating.
moving when tight: if you have to tighten the handle extreme amounts to get the bike to stop moving, use carbon assembly compound on the clamps tapered interface.
not moving when loosened: clamp a handlebar in the stand to use as a lever to break it free. look at the tapered sections. they are made in a two piece mould so there can be flashing on the joint. use a razor to remove the flashing if present. if problem still persists with no flashing, use a very small amount of antiseize or grease. too much antisieze or grease will create the slipping problem.
Это всё очень здорово. Но это невероятно дорогой инструмент! Во всяком случае у нас в России. Я лично использую стойку с Aliexpress. И для домашнего использования мне достаточно.
Хотя у меня есть комплект шестигранных ключей ParkTool. И качество их на высоте.
to stop the old stand from rotating drill holes and pop a pin in there. those plastic parts WILL break and are overpriced to replace. i use cheapo sandbags for stability. no need to "upgrade" . Park Tool are shysters sometimes
It’s not the rotating style has the teardrop tube. And sandbags help with stability but what you saw in the video is overall twist or bending. Still useable don’t get me wrong 😑
I want one
Given it is a premium product, have absolutely no idea why this only comes half-assembled.
Ease of shipping/ trnsportation?
Maybe. But its foldable. They could at least attach the folding mechanism and secure the needle bearing. also too much plastic in the packaging. i also wonder why the screw at the bottom/toptube section is sticking out so far. Potential risk of injury.
But thanks a lot for your video. Great attention to detail. Saved me 10 or even more minutes figuring things out.
Thanks for the great review. for Park...$280 for a bike stand...f8ck that.
the 10.0 sucks i no longer buy their products
10.0 wasn't their best iteration of the product, I agree.
I use the PRS25 team issue stand, it works superbly
@@LoveMTB sold my PCS10.2 to get the PRS25 as the fold is slimmer and the rotating clamp can be remove. It also takes up lesser storage space after folding and feels lighter as it is aluminium.