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- The U.S. detonated over 200 nuclear weapons to gather scientific data about their potential. That data was gospel for years, until a weapons physicist decades later found out the figures were off by huge margins.
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My biggest problem with this video is that it does not say if we were over or under estimating the blasts, just that they were off.
Exactly
John Miller it could mean both
Agreed. I took it has + or - 10-30%
Well this information is sensitive so let it be ambiguous
James Campbell We don't like not knowing, but it's the only safe thing to do. Can you imagine the kickback from telling the world "apparently some nuclear weapons aren't the doomsday devices we envision"? The world is not at peace and our bombs keep the baddies at bay. Best to be vague and let them wonder if our findings are that the bombs might be worse than we thought.
When you're looking at a cloud like that, there isn't mushroom for error.
Miketar2424 Your dead right n nuclear about that clear as a bell 🔔
Miketar2424 if I was looking at one of those clouds in person it’d scare me so much I’d fallout of my chair.
Miketar2424 I can tell your a Fungi to be around!
Mr Smith ,Lee ,N uclearly sound like a blast I’d raise a glass 🥃 to you but don’t drink. Houseatonic sound
With such a topic, is it OK to be fission for laughs like this?
I don't want to be "that guy" but the first nuclear bomb detonated wasn't Trinity. Trinity is the codename of the test. The bomb itself was called "The Gadget"
yes be that guy
Ima be "that guy's even worse brother with 2 thumbs"- it wasnt a nuclear bomb, it was an atomic bomb. The first nuclear bomb was the H-bomb
ghost500e
The Manhattan project produced a fission bomb, latter the design was changed to include an amount of hydrogen to use the intitial plutonium fission reaction to initiate a hydrogen fussion reaction which led to a vastly more powerful explosion.
There is a difference which you are obviously already know and the Manhattan Project's mission was to produce an atomic bomb and I was simply trying to have fun being an obvious troll continuing the "that guy" in quotation marks thing to drive home my humorus intent and you aint sorry about shit but you would be if i was standing next to you broski cause I would punch you right in your whorish mouth:
👊➡👄, jus like dat 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝!
ghost500e
How did you know I have wimpy hand syndrome?😨
Are you spying me (eeeep!), are you watching me right now? 😱
Confound you, you inhuman monster!
Cheers man.
I love this thread lol
Title should be more like "Digitized Nuclear Films Allow More Precise Measurements Of Yield, But It Doesn't Actually Change Anything Commonly Thought About Their Explosive Power"
smitty121981 The title was off by almost 20% due to human error
You made an error yourself! It must have been at least 25% if not 30%!
Well stated. The video title is somewhat misleading.
How so... video title specifically mentionsm "Declassified Nuclear Films" which are analyzed in the video to show "We Were Wrong About Their Explosive Power" by about 15-30%. The hell do you expect out of a 5 minute video?
I like this format, where the host is an invisible narrator, and we get to look at relevant video or images instead.
giveussomevodka That didnt make sense
Dankk13 Yes it did.
giveussomevodka AGREED
That's basically like having the video screen in front of the classroom, while the instructor is off to the side, out of the picture, giving the lecture through a laptop.
Have u never watched a documentary b4?
For the people wondering if they were under or over estimating the blasts, they were doing both. It was up to 30% off depending on the individual case. Some were more, some were less.
Name that was me. Thank you.
Thank you! I had just posted a comment asking about this. (Update: I just deleted it.)
Thanks, that's really the sort of information that would have been useful in the video. "Seeker" need to review their content before posting.
The worst underestimation was the Castle Bravo fusion bomb test. The yield reached five megatons instead of the projected one point five. The effects and consequences were major.
Castle Bravo is a good example of underestimation. Another gross underestimation (can't remember which shot it was now) was supposed to be 4 MT, and it ended up being 15. A lot of scientists and observers were severely burned and suffered other injuries from the blast. In other words, they were just too damn close.
I had no idea George Bush Sr wrote that computer code. I guess retirement gets boring.
KELLI2L2 If Trump can be President Bush Sr can write code
On Plutonium, see Galen Winsor. Uranium is the code for child trafficking. Such chemial element does not exist. Nuclear refers to underground HAARP waves from the pyramids
Dang! THAT was funny. And, I worked at the Nevada Test Site. LOL!
He was to busy trying to work the bugs out of future plans of how he was going get guns to south america and bring the payment of cocaine back to the states to start the crack craze.
LOL, Trump has more capability than the last 5 presidents combine, GTFO. Braindead kid.
thumbs down for clickbait title
I don't believe that the title was meant to be 'clickbait'!!
It's very misleading to say "we were wrong about their explosive power" because people's common perception of the explosive power is NOT contingent upon an accurate measurement of the yield. A nuke is known to have the power to level a whole city, that is the way in which most people conceptualize the explosive power, and that understanding has NOT changed one bit due to these new measurements.
So to summarize, using a sensational but misleading title meets my definition of clickbait.
Smitty....I do agree with your comment..!!
@@smitty121981
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@@rock3tcatU233 they changed the video title
So which is it? Are we 30% more or 30% less fucked?
Dirk DigDuggler ikr, the video didn't really get to a question, let alone pose any answers. I guess we're just supposed to hear "here's a guy who's reviewing the data on historical testing" and respond "oh, ayyy, cool! 👍"
_color me Not Impressed_ 😕
It's both sometimes more and other times less
Dirk DigDuggler both
Dirk DigDuggler less
Dirk DigDuggler actually, the Tsar Bomba proved one thing... The bigger the bomb, the more efficient it becomes, reducing certain types of "dirty" fallout, for what it's worth.
2:44 Ideal job
[Yoshikage_Kira] greg spends most of his time watching bombs explode
yea, while forgetting the analyzing, figuring out the chemistry/physics and equations, computer algorithms, and paper/report part of it.. also every bit of your work is studied/scrutinized because your figure is 10-20% different than the official result
Why you no get reference ?
I just realized I made a Jojo refrence
My father's US army duty through part of the cold war was to predict, calculate and advise on potential nuclear fallout in the event of an attack. This information was utilized in troop and armament deployments.
Thanks seeker and Team.. for making these videos....
It really helps building my own thought to a new idea.......😘
This channel is still DNews to me
Colin Vogt W-what's the difference except the name?
Colin Vogt BRING BACK SEEKER DAILY
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Colin Vogt Same. I absolutely hate the name 'Seeker'.
This video is clearly not DNews. not that it's a bad video.
Imagine a nuclear test today using 8k camera and hyper speed recording.
"Hello internet! We are the Slow Mo Guys. And today Dan is going to stand next to a nuclear bomb while we detonate it and record it in slow motion!"
RaDnWave right? It doesn't even make sense they were able to record those blasts back in the day
It would be interesting to see how that would be set up.
Traci Mitchell ever heard of a theoretical situation before?
Ask Kim about it.
I'm sometimes amazed. I spent at least the first 12 years of my life (1950-1962) exposed to fallout radiation (strontium-90 was found in milk during this period) and 56 years later I still don't have cancer.
I love watching nuclear test films! The detonation process is fascinating, the fireballs are breathtaking, the cloud formations awe inspiring....
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
We won't go quietly, the legion can count on that!
Ave true to cae- I mean, I heard the rangers chew nails and spit out napalm
Cactus haha
Cactus
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
COURIER GOD DAMN SIX!!!
The scientist guy says the "the yield estimates could be off by as much as 20-30%" - but doesn't say whether that 20/30% difference is higher or lower than the supposed yield of the bomb. So is a 1 megaton bomb actually "1 and a bit megatons " or is it "not quite 1 megaton". ie Is the actual yield over or under the supposed yield? And do I need to rebrand my bombs as "New, Improved and more powerful!" and jack up the price?
could be 30% less powerful, could be 23% more powerful, it varies
ikr, this vid felt so unsatisfying... i'm guessing it's a work in progress, so they haven't finished collating all the figures yet. but it is terrifying to know that the margin of error for these extreme weapons is so high.
so if a military target is near to something we should avoid hitting, it might end up caught in the blast... or if a military target is quite large, it might not be completely destroyed. both could have huge consequences... although with the MAD doctrine in place, it might not matter after all.
meanwhile, the US has lost quite a few nuclear weapons too - they're referred to as "broken arrows". some of the circumstances leading to losses were very embarrassing and rather alarming -- and these are only the declassified ones. i wonder how many the russians have lost... and under what circumstances. it may even be possible that some of these lost weapons have been found by criminal elements and are now in the hands of dangerous people.
our existence truly hangs on a thread.
Миодраг Здравковћ do you expect to know something that would make the russian government look bad?
Richard works either way
exactly. I'd think this will be used for the pro-nukem' war hawks...
I can hear the FOX Pentagon analyst now....
"oh, they had it all wrong back then. They're not that big.... So let's drop one on Pyongyang. It really won't be so bad."
One major regret was not having been around and been old enough to have witnessed nuclear weapons tests. No matter what your feelings on the product, the use of it is spectacular and there is nothing like it to be seen today, outside of a volcano exploding.
"Greg spends a lot of time watching bombs go off."
Well we all have our hobbies I guess?
hack into the very fabric of reality = make a bomb out of it
Anton you're supposed to see the troll for what it is, you appear to have been trolled by actually responding to him.
keanu reeves on dah job
On Plutonium, see Galen Winsor. Uranium is the code for child trafficking, btw. Such chemial element does not exist. Nuclear refers to underground HAARP waves from the pyramids
Vit Odlozilik um
TheTripleDigit fucken lmao thats funny
The fact that the films decomposed really upset me.
The one thing they never tell you, or that they tell you incorrectly is that no one would ever think to use a nuclear weapon for fear of retaliation. However, our use of weapons on other countries demonstrates their ability to be used without significant lasting damage.
the ting goes boom.. that’s all i need to know
BOOM!XD.. beavis would like that as he likes to say poop n other things on mtv with butthead
Your either from Chicago, northern Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan's up?
gt5228z me?, nah. I'm not even from the US
Fluff lol my bad.
Oh Darth Plagueis, you should know, nuclear detonations is no match to the power of the force.....
Well, ok, the scientists from the 50s weren't "wrong." They were just a little off in their calculations. But, as the saying goes, close only counts in horseshoes and nuclear weapons. If you're off by 15% with a bomb of this huge destructive power, does it really matter?
yeah, this video was a waste of time. what is the point in quibbling over a few percent destructive power.
First off, it's science, so accuracy matters for it's own sake. Also, having the right numbers makes it possible to understand what kind of fallout is going to happen, and what it will take to deal with it.
Yes SentByHim, that's true. You make a good point. But, also these were nuclear tests from the '50s weren't they? Would these weapons even still be in the arsenal? Surely they would have been de-commissioned and replaced by now wouldn't they?
Yes, but if the power is 26 kilotons instead of 20, I am not sure it will have dramatically different consequences. Its not like the power is going to be 1 megaton.
I guess it matters for figuring out how much damage nukes will do. This is useful information for figuring out what precautions you need to take and how to respond in the event you get hit by a nuke. It will also provide more accurate information for the military on how to best apply them.
That explosion clip at the beginning is not trinity-- trinity was detonated in a desert, not the atolls.
My dude, what are you even talking about?
The way the nuke makes the clouds disappear at 4:59 looks neat.
Wait... are they more or less powerful than we thought?
David Pfautz More
David Pfautz 10 or 20 or 30 percent, that's all your getting! :)
David Pfautz depends on which ones. Some more, some less.
We'll never know.
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20 or 30 % doesn't make much difference to anybody that is within 5 miles of a 10 megaton bomb when it goes off.
Yea, I gave up worrying, I live 4 miles from a military base, primary target...I won't even know I'm gone when it happens...smh
but nobody uses 10 megaton bombs anymore and in a few years, megaton-class weapons won't exist anymore
Yeah they will, I think they can be used as large payloads for bombers.
they could if we wanted to make them again but no one does and doesn't field them
When you can hit a target within 100 feet with accuracy. No need for megaton class weapons when a 15kt weapon will do the work without as much collateral damage.
they said the nuclear test ended in 1962, but on of the film canisters shown said 1968. 1:59
atmospheric tests did, but underground was fair game
Douglas MacArthur That was the sequel. Lol
Lol this video is such bs
Christian Wyatt+ Learn to read
BroIGotThis I wish I could understand the comment you just left me. Ho hum. Anyway the "old" footage is new. Clearly. It doesn't take a priest of the cult of science to figure that out. It's just strange that this video surfaces when there is all this doubt about nukes being real. Oh well back to my finger painting.... Weeeee.
0.54 - 0.58 Just Wow, such a underrated footage! Atoms at work here.
For Christmas I wanted spinal fusion, but all I got was the nuclear kind.
"Calculated by hand using a device."
A+ commentary.
ok when you use a pen or pencil while doing arithmetic by hand you aren't doing it by hand you are using a device. Throw away the pen or pencil and use your fingers.
If only The Ultimate Warrior was still alive, he would save us. But he is dead, and we are dead too.
theres always jim duggan HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Darmok The Ultimate Warrior? NOT THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
This has become my favorite channel on TH-cam.
Damn,back then they were lighting off nukes like fireworks.
Keep in mind, the current version of nukes, are much more powerful than the ones tested in those films.
Do you want extinction? Because that's how you get extinction.
John Paul Sylvester if we don't kill each other first, or succumb to disease, etc., there is probably a meteor out there with our name on it.
What's wrong with extinction?
@john miller
In your case, nothing.
mou , you need to worry about the undeveloped countries that have no education and nuclear power - Iran had Sulpher chemical spills last year and it wasn't the first - no safety . And by the way its the new developing countries that are now testing nuclear bombs . No one learns in this age of mans rule .
John Paul Sylvester, Worst case scenarios (launch the arsenal) generally put the maximum human die off around 90 to 95%. Scenarios where blasts are focused on population centers have a higher long term survivor rate because more food is available and there are fewer disease carriers. The nuclear war is not a simple end. It is the beginning of a long period of misery and horror.
As someone with a CS background and a passion for Film Preservation
just... *wow*
Can you imagine how a video of one of these would be if the new high speed cameras were used today?
The fact that I live in the instant death zone of a nuclear reactor i couldn't care if I was 30% more or less dead. These weapons should never be used. The impact they have not only on us but the ecosystem is unlike any other weapon created by man. In a perfect world we could just dismantle them but this isn't . Our enemies will never do the same so we are in this perpetual standoff.
from what I have researched nuclear missiles are a hoax and reactors are the only threat with a huge deadzone. other than that it's hydrogen bombs and chemical weapons but there is no such thing as a bomb which destroys an entire country. if nuclear bombs were so powerful then why would the USA drop 3000 tons of napalm AND the atomic bomb on japan and why would you mainly see an aftermath of napalm bombs instead of anything relating to a nuclear strike? it's just something they use to make us believe that we need "others" to be in charge of governments. meaning we outsource responsibility to questionable personalities. it makes no sense whatsoever, nor does the aftermath of the nuclear strike on japan make sense, nor does the concept of the nuclear bomb dropped on that country. we recieve plenty of radiation from our electronic devices and food, and I'm confident reactors are the only other source of lethal radiation in our present.
@@herberthans7015 I'm sorry, what?
the nukes were "invented" and "tested" during a time of intense propaganda. it makes sense that you (a government) would lie about the powers of your weapons and it makes sense to tell people they need you as their representative because there is a dangerous red button which will end the world when you press it and only you're responsible enough to be in control of that button. this leaves the possibility of nukes being a hoax. so I looked at the other side of the media and ran into a lot of questions.
first, how were people in 1945 able to create a nuclear fusion within a small bomb at an exactly calculated altitude and time? I didn't find any legitimate answer to this. it's a seriously complicated process and at the time there weren't even reliable "normal" bombs around, let alone bombs which could cause a nuclear fusion within their ~1-2 meter shell. and now the more important question:
why would they need to drop 3000 tons of napalm bombs on hiroshima if at the same time they dropped a bomb which would VAPORIZE entire cities or countries? and how comes the aftermath left stone buildings intact, looked exactly like the aftermath of napalm bombs (most buildings in the area were made from wood -> napalm destroys everything but brick/stone buildings) and the story about vaporized shadows was proven wrong from what I know.
whenever I smell bullshit in "top secret" missions it's usually because the stories do involve or are made up bullshit indeed.
I'm not a native english speaker nor a nuclear scientist so if you actually want to know more about the topic you will have to do your own research.
Says everything you need to know about what a vile species we reeally are; Scientists were even concerned it could set the earths atmosphere on fire, but went ahead, regardless.
While I would agree that building A-bombs and H-bombs betokens a shocking lack of wisdom on behalf of our species, neither of your characterizations of this matter are accurate. Edward Teller (and others) did indeed raise the possibility that an atomic device exploded in the atmosphere could result in a fusion reaction, rather than the intended fission reaction, and that such a reaction might blossom out of control, vaporizing the Earth's atmosphere in the process. Hans Bethe is generally credited with debunking this possibility, proving mathematically that it was highly improbable, and doing so in a matter of hours. By the time of the Trinity test, there was no consensus opinion that this could actually happen.
Ever been around a woman?
@@TheEvilChipmunk Mars?
@@TheEvilChipmunk I would say that was a bunch of fukin luck playing God. By Castle Bravo shit hit the fan pretty ugly. Miscalculation? Or just madness in seeking how bad it can be. It should be classified as global homicide attempt and punished with death sentence. But no. US ist beyond of any justice.
This is surprisingly informative. Thanks.
Thanks for the highly informative video! 30 +Years ago I was commissioned to do some information programs - Civil Defense stuff in case of threat from a belligerent - I'm sure the things I worked have long since been superseded by updated stuff. I had to read dozens of now declassified documents to make sense of things like biological effects of ionizing radiation, absorbed dose measures, rads versus Seiverts, absorption cross-sections, etc., data available now in high school physics texts. My only point for mentioning this is to remind folks that fallout only results from detonations that are low enough to affect the ground. Those blasts ABOVE the atmosphere mighta added a little to the *ionosphere* --> earlier named the Kennelly-Heaviside layer
i don't understand how evaluating old films of nuclear blasts help determine yields of modern nukes in silos.
Boaz Thomassie yeah
Boaz Thomassie because modern nukes have not changed since 1960 we stopped making them. It is against international law to produce nuclear weapons.
quangluu96 As I understand it, we started focusing on more compact and lower yield nukes, and multiple warheads. Partly redundancy, partly so you could take out a military target without nuking a city miles away.
Boaz Thomassie a more accurate determination of the old films tell them that the old calculations are off by 15-30% so for the modern silo missile that say 500 kilo ton turns into a say 650 kiloton missile now, so basically they now know it'll do 150 more kilotons of damage then they thought .
Tell that to North Korea and Iran.
they were not wrong.....they just did not have the technology for a more accurate measurement......
...and the measurements were done in a hurry, under pressure, (3:35).
ALL scientific measurements have a degree of uncertainty or lack of precision; some are small, some large. What they're doing here is using modern techniques, 60 years later and taking more time, to increase the precision of the original measurements of the data.
For example: If an original result was 100kilotons +/- 20kt; now it could be 115kt +/- 2kt. In this case, the original results are not wrong, just less precise than they can calculate today.
This work may be of some interest, but it's not a big deal. The title, however, is pure clickbait!
For several years in the late 80's through mid 90's, I worked in the Marshall Islands. I've dove on the Prinze Eugen in the Kwajalein Lagoon, and stood on the deck of the USS Saratoga 200ft below the surface of the Bikini Lagoon. Both vessels were in place during the Castle Bravo tests in an underwater detonation. At the time of my dives, not much was growing on either vessel. The tests dropped from planes? Entire islands were vaporized by mistake. Coconuts on Bikini & Enewetak still contain dangerous levels of Strodium 90....to this day.
I just love the really upbeat music near the end.
War... war never changes.
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*Raiders have kidnapped your family.*
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Google this.... Operation Dominic, 1962, Johnson Island.
Open images, 36 atomic detonations that we watched.
These are “clean” images, no dirt sucked up into mushroom.
Amazing and beautiful pictures.
C. C. Fielder just looked it up you’re right
Operation dominic
Good Lord... Utterly mezmerizing. Hauntingly beautiful is the phrase I often use to describe nuclear detonations. I'm genuinely grateful for your recommendation, those images are incredible. I'm in awe.
I'd also recommend the photos of Operation Fishbowl's high altitude tests
Senior_Potato 20
“I call it The Ex Wife”.
The yields were off but were they low or too high, I didn't get that from this.
I grew up about 250 miles from the Nevada test site, in Southern California. Wonder if Santa Ana winds, which blow from the northeast, from the direction of southern Nevada, were ever blowing on any of the times they lit these off in the atmosphere...
This video is completely wrong before thirty seconds have even passed; Trinity didn't lead to no arms race, the race was already well underway with Germany and Japan concertedly in the process of trying to build their own nuclear weapons. So to all the clueless people who say we were terrible for dropping the atomic bombs, we only did what they were trying to do to us. And, you damn well know, while we tested in a remote desert, Japan would have just openly tested an atomic bomb on a Manchurian town or an invaded island they occupied, so!
Yeah, all these apologists are really funny...like they were doing the same thing, the US won by doing it faster and not oppressing(relatively speaking) people' theories when they didn't agree with the men in power, like Germany did. If the US hadn't done that, more American/Chinese/people around Eastern Asia would die, at least 10x, the Japanese rounded out pregnant woman in China to do "sports events", see which soldier can stab the fetus out of the woman's belly faster, they mass murdered in the most disgusting way, if it were not the US, how many more American Soldiers/Chinese/Eastern Asian lives would be harmed, think about that before you talk people, have you learned nothing in history class and grew up to be some idiot that just gets in line 2 days before the release, to buy some stupid product that isn't even worth the money? And then you just see some documentary and instantly form an idiotic opinion without doing any research? Sheeple shouldn't be allowed to vote, get educated. The only problem here is your education/culture is shit, people with perfectly functional minds and choose to be idiots should be shamed, instead your culture shames the intellects that keep your house lit, your belly full, you country safe, what a bunch of morons hahaha...
Cannot watch due to the astounding ignorance that begins the film.. Trinity was the name of the test site. Gadget was the name of the first atomic bomb detonated at the Trinity site, located at one of our National Parks in NM. Nazi German scientists developed the atom smasher, technology America acquired and then used to build a bomb; during a crisis. The race for destructive power was swiftly won by a late participant. Robert Oppenheimer oversaw the Manhattan Project, corroborating with even Einstein, from the time of reformulating the atom smasher with the correct parameters, to testing of Gadget at Trinity and the completion of Little Man and Fat Boy. When people backed off on killing each other as much, we turned our attention with the atom smasher away from warfare and expanded the knowledge to corroborate with a multitude of countries through studies utilizing the Large Hadron Collider.
"The only time humanity will unite, is the day that aliens wage war against us" me, 2k17
Mr. Omen get ready for September and see if your theory is correct ;)
we won't unite for long then......
Mathspode The mighty yeahhhh... :(
Nah globalization is inevitable, pity trump set it back so far
Mr. Omen It's the other way around m8
great work by the man
I love the inclusion of the evidence in the description.
So, the scientist thought the atmosphere could catch on fire and sent it up anyway. Yes we are destined to destroy ourselves.
Lonely Truether moron
You would know 😉
This is a myth born because one of the mathematical simulations of what would happen in the explosion said that the oxygen in the air would react with the wave of neutrons released in the explosion.
Some scientists considered that. The majority did think otherwise. If all would have agreed, that there is a serious risk of a world ending event.. well.. who knows, what would have happend.
Now that was funny definitely a "laugh out louder" what's even funnier is the moron that can't recognize a little harmless sarcastic humor I mean who's really the morons there's actually a few people that replied back as if it was a question completely missing the fact it was just a harmless lighthearted sarcastic remark it's called a sense of humor you should have used your smarts to look up what that means but instead a few of you were in such a panic to sound smart you completely missed this person's intentions which was simply just to make you laugh
All those nukes tested above ground..where is the nuclear winter ?
There were around 2000 tests, of which 525 were atmospheric tests. The atmospheric tests had a total yield of 545 Megatons, according to wiki. That's the equivalent of over 36,000 Hiroshimas, or about 25,000 Nagasakis.
How do you get nuclear winter from a blast that hot???
NUCLEAR INDIAN SUMMER!!!
Oh it shouldn't be long! The ozone layer is useless thanks to radiation floating around the atmosphere. Which is probably why out of no where cancer hits like puberty and pimples do a teenage. But I'm just a dumb cajun... 🤷🏻♂️
Then here comes the political wash outs with this global warming hoopla saying that humans are the cause of it.... 👀 🤔
Ya fuckin think!? All those "brilliant scientists" knew plutonium was nasty af so they create the A BOMB!? If that wasn't bad enough they decide detonating nukes was a great idea to learn just how nasty it was and how they could make it more horrific!!! As if killing off entire families wasn't bad enough.... the poor bastards that survived wish they hadn't! And forget about a rebuilding effort! Cause after you get cancer from the radiation/nuclear fallout the wonderful mass murderers of big pharma will treat your cancer with MORE RADIATION!!! 😱
j greystoke global warming they say... more like global incineration!
Nuclear Winter is an exaggeration, if not a myth, to scare people. It's based on flawed assumptions of atmospheric injection of dust and aerosols from mass fires, forest fires, and firestorms.
Recently declassified studies suggest that firestorms are implausible. First, city centers aren't made of wood and paper like Dresden, Tokyo or Hiroshima, but instead are concrete, steel and glass. Second, flattened houses in the suburbs won't burn well if they are collapsed because airflow is minimized and fire need oxygen. Third, the tests were done in deserts overestimate the radii for thermal and blast effects due to dry air, the precursor effect, and open range - in reality knocking down a structure takes work and diminishes the power of the blast wave over distance faster than tests indicate (as evidenced in declassified reports about Nagasaki). Fourth, it's hard for the thermal flash to start a fire in anything that's not tinder or kindling - that puff of smoke you see in videos in front of buildings is the volatization of the surface material, which counterintuitively absorbs the rest of the incident radiation and shades the underlying material, which wouldn't burn anyways because the surface area to volume is too low to sustain combusion. There's more, but you get the picture.
It would have been nice to know in what direction were the estimated yields wrong. And especially the implications of the error and it's resolution.
That first bomb at the very beginning wasn't called Trinity, it was the test at the Trinity site but the bomb was only called "the gadget"
This is nothing sensational, some calculations have always been approximative in this field, and to be honest, the whole video is quite inaccurate.
Anyway, a 10-15, or even 30% yield decrease or increase is not so relevant if you know something about nuclear devices.
How about the 50% increase in yield that occurred during the Castle Bravo test in the Bikini Atoll, that poisoned thousands of people and led directly to a worldwide ban on atmospheric tests.
When you are dealing with yields of 10 Megatons, then I think an increase of an extra 5 million tonnes of TNT is quite relevant.
cazzo
Atmospheric conditions at the time of detonation, snow on the ground, Significant water, and the configuration of the landscape -- all influence the actual unfolding of blast effects in the event. Wind patterns then influence distribution of particles sucked into the mushroom cloud, and the particle size distribution is determined largely by the height & magnitude of the blast from the surface. Lotta factors. Sometimes fish & frogs have been sucked out of the ocean or lakes by twisters, then dropped elsewhere. I saw a yt vid w a picture of a falling octopus yesterday.
And I certainly didn't mean to criticize. It's a vastly interesting and complex subject, but if my experience shows anything, it's that you don't have be a genius to make sense of the issues. ... But you do have to have confidence that the people doing the math know their stuff! When I teach animation, and demonstrate complex graphic software the students invariably say, "Thank you That sorta works, but we know another method that's better!"
So Then I teach'em a buncha WRONG stuff (Tee Hee!) >;0)
lol they are neuclear physist. it is their job to know this.
Nuclear weapons never did _me_ no wrong. In fact, there probably would have been a WW3 by now without them--and I probably would have died in it.
So these vids are beautiful to me--aesthetically, practically, and philosophically.
Let's keep 'em tuned up and ready to fly.
Unpopular opinion, for sure, but you're absolutely right.
I shouldn't have to explain why you're wrong. Just think about it.
well, yes and no.
yes because the knowledge that you and you rival both have the power to destroy a city in an instant definitely make them more reluctant to attack each other, that is why america and russia are buiding their military. it might also prevent an asteroid from crashing us if there is one.
no because we already have enough nukes and nuclear energy is more useful to use as the cleanest, safest and most effecient form of energy. the only reasons it doesnt happen is because of the public outcry over nukes, the imcompetent decisions of the goverment and the cost of building a nuclear reactor.
How bout no
I just watch you post change to nukes are fake and change back. And no I don't have a virus on my phone. TH-cam up to some odd stuff.
'Up to snuff' pretty appropriate when talking about what basically are a sort of snuff films.
you seem to suggest that the explosive power is a lot less; but the guy just says they were inaccurate and they're still getting the results..
One thing I don't get is why tons of money and resource isn't going into trying to find a way to make nuclear weapons obsolete?
Andrew Godly
When was the last time it was used to kill? 1945.
If nuclear weapons become obsolete then that means we have found yet another weapon more destructive than that. (*cough* anti-matter *cough*)
Europe is full of Nuke Power Plants...France has several
You mean like Ronald Reagan's "Star Wars" program?
What does that have to do with Nuclear Weapons?
"Please wipe yourselves out"
-Planet Earth
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Look man these reason we made the nuke in the first place was to end the most deadly/costly war in history. It should have been thrown away immediately after but unfortunately it was all we knew to do.
From '58 through '60 we lived in the "Atomic View Trailer Court" in Indian Springs, NV. Only about 30 miles from Mercury Test Site, where many A-bomb tests were conducted. We were told to open our windows on test days. Our Trailer house would shake. Mushroom clouds were sometimes visible. I'm 68 now. I'm fine.
that was rather interesting thanks:)
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Tine Woodbe No.
jontron is that you???
Had to watch it again after you said that
Oh shit, he really does sound like johntron.
My name is jontron
seeker your channel is the shiznit 💯💯
My all-time favorite story about nuclear testing. At the Bikini Atoll after the testing, ships that did not sink were examined for damage. There were various radiation hotspots in random places on the ship. These places had signs so Sailors didn't loiter there and get a dose of radiation. Sailors being sailors found out it was a good place to have a cigarette and avoid extra work details. The military's answer besides the sign saying High radiation levels do not loiter was to post a soldier to make sure nobody loitered. As he was yelling at the sailors to keep moving one of them pointed out that he had been staying in this hotspot for a couple hours and he wondered how he was avoiding the radiation. The soldier immediately went to a station with a geiger counter and found out he had indeed received a dose of radiation. It may seem unimaginably stupid but nuclear weapons and radiation were brand new and there was no protocol to protect uneducated military personnel.
total pure click bait
RESTART ATMOSPHERIC TESTING!!!!!
Yes, let's. But do them on the moon (I know... no atmosphere there, but still). That way, we can screw IT up, too.
Television in the 50s and 60s had many show featuring various nuclear tests. They were good for advertising revenue.
TH-cam needs a lot more content like this!
Wouldn't it be cool if while they were sorting through all those old film reels for preservation they stumbled on an old school sex tape of some politician or something? 😀
Kid Dynamo What if it was your Mom and your Uncle?
Dylan Macon and she was a THICC girl
"... Wait a minute, is that my grandfather?... Holy shit."
You mean FDR ?
No, not really
Greg was found mysteriously dead today in his apartment 😨
Explosive yield was difficult to calculate. Castle Bravo, for instance, was supposed to be less than half of what it turned out to be
I am more concern if the blast radius and fallout are actually smaller, just like i will be more terrified if all nuclear capable country reduce the amount of their nuclear arsenal to just a dozens for each nation. Because if the fear of total annihilation is gone, they are more likely to use it without too much hesitation.
the actual number of test by america alone is closer to 900 over a span of just 50-60 years during the cold war.
What a boring time to be alive. We aren't flying to the moon, and we're not even testing nukes.
Cruzer atleastt we got dank memes
Cruzer's World of Retro Wonders We have bubble wrap......we can burst the bubbles to pass the time. ☀💨
We have advanced Artificial Intelligence capable of making decisions faster and more accurately than any human alive.
We have a globally connected network of information available at our fingertips.
We have phones with tens of thousands of times the processing power of massive server farms from 30-40 years ago that can fit in our pockets.
North and South Korea are beginning the process of coming together as one for the first time in nearly 70 years.
We now have private companies that can launch objects into orbit around the Earth, and soon can even go to the Moon and Mars.
We are capturing so much energy from the sun that it is starting to disrupt whole major power grids.
There is a vaccine for CANCER in the works that has the potential to make cancer a thing of the past, like Polio.
Batteries are starting to get so cheap, they can start replacing peaker plants in terms of cost effectiveness.
and SOOO much more.
This is, far and away, the most exciting time to be alive in human history.
Cruzer's World of Retro Wonders it's good as we get to see the human race get types of cancers we never thought were possible from the fall out of all that testing
You're clearly blind to reality. This is probably the best time EVER! The best time since 2nd century Rome. This time is better because we are truly in charge of our destinies now. We can shape the future anyway we like. Sadly not enough people see it for what it is.
What's the first music track? In fact, could you post the names of all of them? Excellent choice!
As a former 15 eco 10 im glad this info is out. Thank you
The very same power gives us life on Earth. It is an awesome power, and for once I am using that word appropriately. The Nuclear Atom harbors an amazing and awesome power in it. One that can be harnessed and utilized if it is respected properly. Just as the Earth respects the distance of a star who's temperament is thermonuclear.. So must we tame and protect ourselves from the effects of Atomic Energy.
"The Nuclear Atom"..."Temperament is Thermonuclear" ? Boy are you an ignorant Dip Shit or what ?....Let me guess you are afraid of Tap Water and Chem Trails too right ?
Actually, what gives life to earth is nuclear fusion. These bombs are fission. We do have nuclear fusion reactors in development though, just not bombs.
"whose", not "who's".
Fusion or fission, both processes convert mass to energy, so they are in effect opposite sides of the same coin.
thx for the reply, and to some extent you are correct, that fusion has a higher energy-mass ratio than fission due to the size of the atoms involved in both processes, but modern analysis of thermonuclear weapon detonations has shown that most of the explosive yield actually comes from several stages of fission, with less than 5% attributable to fusion . Most thermonuclear weapons as you may know employ a 3 stage fission-fusion-fission configuration. It is the second stage of fission that does most of the damage. Some weapons use a 5 stage setup, with 3 fission and 2 fusion stages. In these multi-stage weapons, the fusion stages are used as detonators - to generate X-Rays and neutrons, to totally detonate the majority of plutonium atoms in the primary fission core and also to cause neutron activation of the non-fissile bomb tamper, causing it to become fissile. Standard weapons use DU tampers, but gold or cobalt can be used to convert it to a neutron bomb.
It's a wonder we haven't ignited the atmosphere of the planet somehow. Or caused massive earthquakes from rocking the earth on its axis. A huge problem with anything nuclear is the unpredictability of fallout.. Chernobyl and Fukushima, naming two are horrible tragedies.. Sadly no one talks about these much anymore.
Heh heh heh.. People don't talk about igniting the atmosphere or rocking the earth because they're not possible. The energy is huge on a human scale, small on a planet scale.
Lensflare Deviant YET. Give this species time. Theyll prove they can wipe themselves out w no help from anyone... I hope not but, .... well.... it's not looking to good for the human race. I say a couple thousand more years.. tops.
Oh, I have no doubts we can and probably will destroy ourselves. There is good reason to suspect human intelligence will eventually do as much damage as any large meteor. I guess my badly made point was that the damage required to destroy us is something the planet itself as a whole can shrug off pretty easily. It was an author who's name I have forgot who put it into perspective when he said if you shrunk the world down to the size of a desktop globe the entire biosphere that we inhabit is not much thicker than a couple coats of paint. :)
MrJre4491 ahhhhh your right.... it'll probably be a little sooner.... N who knows maybe I will. Lol. 😆😆😆
Thank u for being knowledgeable keep preaching
Nuclear bomb: The most terrifying and devastating weapon to ever exist in human history.
Testers: "Better put on my swim goggles"
can someone link me the final image in the video? I need that reproduced for hanging on a wall in a frame
I'm here so early there're 34 views and 36 likes
BS video with no hard data, just a lot of pondering and talk.
i;l thumbs ya up both
That Squirrel normal for murricum documentaries... So dumbed down for the national geographic of that fucked up nation.
Dylan Macon REALLY????, just because it has been declassified to the "general public", doesn't mean this guy and his team hasn't been working on it for years. Are you really this naive? The Internet is amazing, it really does bring to light how many moronic people there are out the in the general populous.
That Squirrel, you sound like you're mad because you don't understand the video. Maybe you need more education, or maybe you should watch dashcam videos instead.
Declassified doesn't mean you get to see the whole thing and it doesn't mean it was not tempered with. All these videos will be scrutinized with utmost care and "cleaned" of anything that could be seen as suspicious.
Its nuts how the blast looks like a sun before the rest of it catches up
He seems like such a cool guy to have a conversation with
A chill of horror flashed through me as I heard the narrator say,
"If we ever have to use a nuke, we better hope it works"
Hypothesis that the human race has gone insane is that sentence could be said so casually.
We got away with it in 1945 because we had the only ones. Next time, if there is a next time, there will surely be retaliation followed by retaliation. Even if by some miracle total nukes are ONLY a couple of hundred out of the thousands in arsenals, just occasional tests in the 40-60s caused poisoning of areas of the planet and radiation deaths and sickenesses lasting to this day. All at once? Kiss civilization goodbye if not goodbye mammals.
Surely non combatants will later use their nukes to finish off the original uses in a suicidal rage at them for poisoning the planet.
Your Pal Obama just gave Iran a giant chunk of cash ...they will have a Nuke soon.
Harry Kuheim almost true my man! I mean the Iran deal gave Iran back the money we froze from them back when revolution happened on the condition that UN nuclear inspectors be allowed in the country to monitor the commercial nuclear power.
But like yeah sure your idea was somewhat accurate
OK to begin with there are several types of them. The old ones were fission bombs. Then, hydrogen fusion today lithium fusion + fission. Every bomb nowadays can have very different effect depending on whether it has a canister of uranium (fission+fusion+fission) or lead (fission+fusion). The 2nd option is the lighter one and also so much less toxic probably 1/10th of the 1st. Well, unless you work for the pentagon you won't know which type is used by which unit.... but there are ways to control how much one wants to destroy. And prior to shooting 100s of them, which is in *nobody's* interest and hence will probably never happen (didnt happen in 1983 so I guess it's just something no one wants) there are tactical versions launched by bombers that are 'scaled down' and typically would level an airbase or a harbour but not much more. Or maybe an aircraft carrier and its escort. That's basically the only sensible use of nukes, the "you invade us we'll blow your military to ashes until it deserts and the rest revolts" logic. Not sure many sailors will be willing to invade country X if they're pretty sure to get nuked along the way, or pilots and riflemen too for that matter since their base will be the 1st target to get blown and they know it.
Now no one will escalate until the 100-ton missiles are being shot because it's litterally in nobody's interest. However, if you send a navy task force to China and they'll blow it to ashes before it even lands. That's more an example of the purpose of nuclear arsenal.
Moistfully said my good lad
First of all you are overhyping nuclear weapons and you proably feel the same way about climate change. There is no way nuclear weapons could destroy everything.
Oddly enough, none of those soldiers watching the blasts nor the residents of Las Vegas suffered any ill effects from "Nuclear Fallout" You can even go and visit the blast sites on a tour.
AND Hiroshima and Nagasaki are thriving metropolis' today.
But Fukushima will remain uninhabitable for at least the next 20+ years. And Chernobyl is deemed uninhabitable for the next 3000 years!
What should we be more scared of; "Nuclear Bombs" or poorly managed Nuclear Power Facilities that are still relying on decades old tech and more dangerous and volatile reactor processes?
Eco Mouse
"none of those soldiers watching the blasts nor the residents of Las Vegas suffered any I'll effects"
Not necessarily true, according to the test site's wikipedia page. But I guess you can refute that wikipedia is an unreliable source.
Defective reasoning : thinking nuclear fallout is safe because some people survived watching a blast is a perfect example of someone intoxicated with corporate PR. Talk about nuclear fallout to people living in the bikini atoll when the US were conducting their experiments. Not so nice a story.
www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/02/bikini-atoll-nuclear-test-60-years
Well, if being slowly poisoned from nuclear fallout is literally the ONLY thing that you are concerned about, then I suppose you might have a point. Personally I'm more concerned about the millions that would die from the initial fireball.
Eco Mouse nuclear power, the products in a bomb are spent but the product of a power plant are still active and highly volatile
"We knew the world would not be the same. Few people laughed, few people cried, most people were silent...
I remember the line from the Hindu Scripture of the Bhagavad Gita. Vishnu was trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form, and says, "Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds...
I suppose everyone felt that, one way or another."
~J. Robert Oppenheimer, about the Bomb.
The most unnerving part is he said they washed it at least 4,000 films and some of these things have been degraded so those couldn't even be watched meaning that there have been over four thousand different nuclear test, I really hope some of these are copies of others but at the same time that still means that there is a unknown but yeah large number of nuclear tests that no civilian is aware of it is not been beyond our government to test nuclear weapons close enough towards people
The US dropped 2 of those on civilian filled cities. Just think about that for a moment.
legitimate military targets
there are no civilians in total war
I know right??... 2 just isnt enough!
I feel bad for the civilians killed an attack on major military installations that the government of Japan decided to place near population centers but they forfeited their lives when they allowed a genocide of 10s of millions to be committed by their government. If the US had to drop a bomb on Berlin to stop the holocaust no one would bat an eye but for some reason some westerns don't care as much about a genocide not in the west.
Good point. Yet the MS Media tells us we should be worried about Iran, north Korea, Russia etc. Its the military industrial complex that we should be worried about. Every year they are producing more sophisticated and more deadly weaponry.
The Atomic bomb is the reason most people are still alive on Earth today and not victims of never ending wars. We have them so we DON'T have to use them. USA brought the peace. If the Nazis or the Soviets would have beat us to it, what do you think they would have done with it?
to have guns - is to use them - for guns it is a bit faster draw... and bullets do not decay in a few thousants of years - although - all those bullets fired in all those wars.. where are they ... in our foodchain ?
SKMC69 blackmailed all the other governments.
The Wars still rage - there are little wars.. we like to dismiss as side shows.. but they make a lot of kills.. and money
MAD may work initially but a great man once said: "Familiarity breeds contempt." Some idiots in the future just might set one off because they've become so desensitized to the idea of nuclear war. It is inevitable, whether purposeful or by accident. I just hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime. What we really need is a nuke-buster: Something that can render nuclear weapons inert. Maybe a virus, something chemical that bonds with the enriched plutonium found in these bombs.
War must be there to balance those times of peace.
Can anyone say what is the current condition of the places where nukes were tested in the past. And wether or not the fallout is as bad as we have been told. That no human could set foot anywhere near ground zero for hundreds of years. And what of the impact on the seas?
"Greg spends a lot of time watching bombs explode..."
World on fire... ... world burning... ^^
(I'm not a pyromaniac... okay maybe a little bit.)