Really great tips and I'm glad you guys can look back at it as a good experience! I hope you guys go back for more in some form or fashion. I'll see you out there!
Great video and tips you guys! You guys hit the nail on the head at the end of the video when you talk about in the end, how much fun it is! I was one of those dudes that got suckered into trying the Ironman class by Gabe. Turns out….it’s waaaaaaaaay easier to watch an hour long video about someone doing it, than attempt it yourself. Gonna do a team next year. I actually want to enjoy the thing next time!!
Thanks for watching, Scott. We are glad that you've enjoyed it. We'd love to do more riding with Gabe. What ideas do you have for our next adventure? - Wes
@@rmatvmc In the cheap challenge area some winter riding or high altitude riding sounds fun (to me anyhow). More of a building challenge would be teams building DIW electric bikes.
That was really really helpful! I'm actually planning on coming down from Alberta Canada for the 10 hour race next year. Likely going to Ironman it...If I had a team to ride with I would totally try the 24 but I'm having trouble convincing any buddies it's a good idea hahaha.
I’m from Canada too bud !! We should meet up out there and try to get some more Canadians and have a full out Canadian team people from all over ...would be sick
Really appreciate this breakdown and tips video. Watched a few of the 24 hour races from different channels but this gave a window into the whole operation. Made me feel like I was there. Thanks 💪😃
@@rmatvmc I'll have to work my way up to it. I've only been riding and making videos a year. Plus living in Vancouver Canada it's quite a trip. But it's on my mind and bucket list now. 😃👍
I really enjoyed your series of videos during the race. This after thought (while rested and able to remember everything that happened during the 24 hrs) is REALLY good info! I wondered how many people would cut at night, intentionally, or not intentionally!!! Great job guys!
Awesome video's guy's. Now you all need to come up North to 🇨🇦 Canada, Alberta and race the 24hour Numb Bum. A course of ice in mid winter. I've done it on a quad and it was awesome.
These are some great tips! now that I have finished it in Ironman enough can't be said about getting your light situation dialed in! hit me up if you guys ever are looking to race this again! it's such a blast!
The 24-hour Glen Helen series was absolutely excellent and this post video was an added bonus filled with great tips. Keep the great content coming. On a completely separate note, where do I get one of those RM jackets that Chase is wearing in this video?
IMO one of the most important things is to understand from the very start whether you are competing or participating. Those are very different and make a huge difference in how you approach the event. My experience is that participants sometimes get caught up in competing and it causes excess fatigue and crashes.
Please make this a reoccurring thing with different budgets and rule or requirements for bikes! So much fun to watch maybe include more pit time in the videos too! Makes it way more fun seeing personalities come out during the race! Good and bad!
I like the idea of first prize, trophy and or cash , going to a stock class and making the 'open class' equal, but not privy to better or more recognition via winning accolades, cash etc.. Nothing against the open classes, but they become Sponsorship contests due to the millions thrown at the machines and racers, eliminating great riders from ever being able to participate.
Get some really good helmet lights. In Sweden/Finland we use purpose built LED helmet lights for enduro in the darker months which are light weight but still have ridiculously good beam width and length. There are some very good brands to buy from here, which are made in Sweden and Finland since we probably ride more night time riding than anywhere else. Float the stator ground on your bikes (full wave rectified) and add a battery and regulator-rectifier. This way, all the stator output charge the battery and in turn give you the option to run some really good LED headlights.
I've done a ton of night riding/racing and I usually use just a task helmet light and has been plenty of light with a back up light and back up batteries! in the dust brighter the lite the more difficult it is to see. Most important with lighting is to have them adjusted/tested ahead of time
Hey Wes, good to hear from you! I ride a 2000 KTM 200EXC. Granted its not as old as these WR’s , but way older than all my riding buddies on the TPI 300’s ! Still gets me through the woods with a smile 🤙
I would love to do a 6 hour iron man as well, the winner of this event (24hr) did over 66 laps, I think the loop was about 8 or 9 miles, lol, way too much for me..
I think in some races you're allowed to stray from the course lines by 15' maybe more in some races and cases... shrugs.. I don't like the idea of cutting off a few hundred yds etc though...
It seems to me that the midwest and east coast, especially east coast has a lot more enduro and hare scramble events than out here in the west, I think about heading out that way from time to time. Maybe there should be some kind of exchange MX Rider program , like exchange students lol.. 😅
@@bikersoncall might help some, but the fact that your fender is brighter than the surroundings already makes it hard for your eyes to attune to the darkness. I would try taping off the headlight so it doesn't hit the fender if possible
@@aceventura1442 That might work, maybe a reversed sunset, so the sides of the bike down to the ground are still lit. Of course we're not looking down at the ground right in front of us, but when we're stopped or crawling' we need to see.
Are you referring to the podcast we talked about? Here is a link to the Keefer Tested podcast about the 24 Hours of Glen Helen: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/show-252-24-hours-of-glen-helen/id1245516386?i=1000538277402
@rmatvmc old guys that showed Up Unprepared, out of shap & unable to Pace themselves. 1 expert who was trying to go pro speed ate shit in that river bed leaving pits. Broke his shoulder.
If those of you watching this video have not seen the carnage from this year's northeast 24 hr challenge check it out absolutely insane the rain and flooding was cause of many flooded/ lost and hydro locked motors a Friend of mine was only able to find his bike when it was washed down a river was by the light on his bars shining below the water surface
To me, it makes no sense for the organizer to wish motorcycle death on us all, I mean they won't be happy until people are falling out of the sky on their bikes. They should stick to tough courses and let the chips fall where they may, not layout courses that the best of the best ruin their bikes on. A challenge is one thing, but that doesn't seem to be the organizer's intent lately. What they laid out at Glen Helen seems quite reasonable, I wish the other organizers could get a clue.
Well, we took 1st and 2nd in our class... but we underestimated the bikes. I really didn't think either bike was capable, let alone would finish the 24hr race. We were registered in the C-class - Wes
I would love to ride and be a part of someone's team, but I'm a fat/old/bald dude that likely can't keep up with any other riders. That being said......I volunteer my 36ft camp trailer and cooking skills for the RMATV team for next year. Have a handful of older bikes to choose from if anyone needs a back-up bike.
25:25 ...a gas mask when you fuel up. Next year a fire truck in each pit area, supplied by the riders, this is important people, this is CA, also bring a 12'x12' (min) placard, that states: Dirt Bike components cause cancer _in California_ . : )
Really great tips and I'm glad you guys can look back at it as a good experience! I hope you guys go back for more in some form or fashion. I'll see you out there!
Bring back the racing series!
Eric is a stud to be the mechanic the whole time. Awesome tips.
Would love to see more like this explaining other types of races. Mx, hare scrambles, desert, etc. Great video!
Check out the 24hr at Starvation Ridge in Goldendale Wa. held on halloween weekend, Scott and Debbie always put on a good race there.
Great video and tips you guys! You guys hit the nail on the head at the end of the video when you talk about in the end, how much fun it is!
I was one of those dudes that got suckered into trying the Ironman class by Gabe. Turns out….it’s waaaaaaaaay easier to watch an hour long video about someone doing it, than attempt it yourself. Gonna do a team next year. I actually want to enjoy the thing next time!!
This type of after action report is fantastic. You guys should do these for a lot more events.
Amazing!
I would sure rather do that than the Baja 1000!
Sounds like a great fun time with friends.
This was cool...now I'm waiting for the next challenge.
I subscribed here last year because of Gabe and have been following ever since. Thanks for the great content. More Gabe please :)
Thanks for watching, Scott. We are glad that you've enjoyed it. We'd love to do more riding with Gabe. What ideas do you have for our next adventure? - Wes
@@rmatvmc In the cheap challenge area some winter riding or high altitude riding sounds fun (to me anyhow).
More of a building challenge would be teams building DIW electric bikes.
@@Scoots1994 I would like to see electric bikes
escavating swamps.
That was really really helpful! I'm actually planning on coming down from Alberta Canada for the 10 hour race next year. Likely going to Ironman it...If I had a team to ride with I would totally try the 24 but I'm having trouble convincing any buddies it's a good idea hahaha.
I’m from Canada too bud !! We should meet up out there and try to get some more Canadians and have a full out Canadian team people from all over ...would be sick
@@FirstGendodgegarage where you at?
@@morley3810 Ontario about a hr from Toronto
@@FirstGendodgegarage Ironman is no joke! I loved doing it!
Really appreciate this breakdown and tips video. Watched a few of the 24 hour races from different channels but this gave a window into the whole operation. Made me feel like I was there.
Thanks 💪😃
Glad you enjoyed it! Are you going to do it? - Chase
@@rmatvmc I'll have to work my way up to it. I've only been riding and making videos a year. Plus living in Vancouver Canada it's quite a trip. But it's on my mind and bucket list now. 😃👍
We need another series, this was sick
I really enjoyed your series of videos during the race. This after thought (while rested and able to remember everything that happened during the 24 hrs) is REALLY good info!
I wondered how many people would cut at night, intentionally, or not intentionally!!! Great job guys!
Thanks Scott. Yes, we figured sharing some tips and tricks was the least we could do. - Wes
I love the channel guys🔥❤️
Awesome video's guy's. Now you all need to come up North to 🇨🇦 Canada, Alberta and race the 24hour Numb Bum. A course of ice in mid winter. I've done it on a quad and it was awesome.
That race sounds EPIC! I really don't like the cold though... I'm not sure I could handle it. 🥶 - Wes
These are some great tips! now that I have finished it in Ironman enough can't be said about getting your light situation dialed in! hit me up if you guys ever are looking to race this again! it's such a blast!
Congrats! I loved your Couch to Glen Helen TH-cam series.
@@TheFreerider1987 Thanks, it was an awesome experience!
The 24-hour Glen Helen series was absolutely excellent and this post video was an added bonus filled with great tips. Keep the great content coming.
On a completely separate note, where do I get one of those RM jackets that Chase is wearing in this video?
IMO one of the most important things is to understand from the very start whether you are competing or participating. Those are very different and make a huge difference in how you approach the event. My experience is that participants sometimes get caught up in competing and it causes excess fatigue and crashes.
Thanks for the Tips,
Please make this a reoccurring thing with different budgets and rule or requirements for bikes! So much fun to watch maybe include more pit time in the videos too! Makes it way more fun seeing personalities come out during the race! Good and bad!
I like the idea of first prize, trophy and or
cash , going to a stock class and
making the 'open class' equal, but not privy to
better or more recognition via winning accolades,
cash etc.. Nothing against the open classes, but
they become Sponsorship contests due to the millions
thrown at the machines and racers, eliminating great
riders from ever being able to participate.
New balances, nice!
That was part of my 'becoming a dad' package.... and they got me through a marathon, so you could say I'm "in the cool club" 👍🏼 - Wes
Get some really good helmet lights. In Sweden/Finland we use purpose built LED helmet lights for enduro in the darker months which are light weight but still have ridiculously good beam width and length.
There are some very good brands to buy from here, which are made in Sweden and Finland since we probably ride more night time riding than anywhere else.
Float the stator ground on your bikes (full wave rectified) and add a battery and regulator-rectifier. This way, all the stator output charge the battery and in turn give you the option to run some really good LED headlights.
Pls more ceap bike challanges.
Maybe for the next time some older bikes like 1980 or older.
I was definitely surprised with how good these mid-90's bikes were. Maybe we need something a little older for next time. - Wes
I've done a ton of night riding/racing and I usually use just a task helmet light and has been plenty of light with a back up light and back up batteries! in the dust brighter the lite the more difficult it is to see.
Most important with lighting is to have them adjusted/tested ahead of time
Can you recommend a good helmet 'task light' ?
I can imagine how heavy dust clouds could screw up
the best bike and or helmet lighting.
Love the Cheap bike challenges ! probably because I ride an old cheap bike lol
Nice Shawn. What are you riding? - Wes
Hey Wes, good to hear from you!
I ride a 2000 KTM 200EXC. Granted its not as old as these WR’s , but way older than all my riding buddies on the TPI 300’s !
Still gets me through the woods with a smile 🤙
Great video can wait to race this next year! Going to iron man the 6hour see if I feel i can do the 24hr!
Goooooooooooood luck! lol 😂 You'll have to let us know how it goes! - Wes
I would love to do a 6 hour iron man as well, the winner
of this event (24hr) did over 66 laps, I think the loop was
about 8 or 9 miles, lol, way too much for me..
How much gas do you think each bike used?
Same question , I asked too, I think it is
proprietary info lol top secret.
You mentioned having to make multiple gas runs, how
much fuel did 1 team use for during the 24 hours?
If your team runs the 24hr again in 2022 I can volunteer to help out in the pits. I live not to far away.
Thanks! Some help in the pits definitely would've been awesome ha ha. We'll see if come back for next year. - Wes
Awesome....
I honestly get that with the cutting the course but every race I’ve ever done that’s all they do to pass people
I think in some races you're allowed to stray
from the course lines by 15' maybe more in
some races and cases... shrugs.. I don't like the
idea of cutting off a few hundred yds etc though...
How many laps did your best team complete?
When you’re in your 40s, 6 is perfect for 24 hour races 😂
Damn you guys really really make me want to do this, I'd have to ride across the country to make it happen though.
It could be a once in a lifetime bucket list item! That's all that you'll want to do it anyway lol - Wes
It seems to me that the midwest and east coast,
especially east coast has a lot more enduro
and hare scramble events than out here in the
west, I think about heading out that way from
time to time. Maybe there should be some kind of
exchange MX Rider program , like exchange students
lol.. 😅
Huh...
Maybe I'll try it.
Blinding yourself with your fender.. been there done that ... Rally Breslau night stage is not for the faint of heart
I wonder if some matt black or camo tape
on the fender would help with the glare..
@@bikersoncall might help some, but the fact that your fender is brighter than the surroundings already makes it hard for your eyes to attune to the darkness.
I would try taping off the headlight so it doesn't hit the fender if possible
@@aceventura1442 That might work,
maybe a reversed sunset, so the
sides of the bike down to the ground
are still lit. Of course we're not looking
down at the ground right in front
of us, but when we're stopped or
crawling' we need to see.
Lube up the fender with some
sticky goop and top with some
local dirt/silt. 😄😄
Looking for a crew to do this with
I'll volunteer Chase! lol 😂- Wes
@@rmatvmc hell yeah brother lmao
Chase, what happened to your Arm, Shoulder, Wrist ?
Had surgery to repair my rotator cuff - Chase
@@rmatvmc How did you hurt it ?
did you got the link for the keefer podcast??
Search up the Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Keefer Tested podcast 👍🏼Episode #252 - Wes
@@rmatvmc thanks dude you are a hell of good dirt biker. i look your enduro race you are flying man
Can you guys share the link to Kris
Keifers TH-cam video about this that you referenced?
Are you referring to the podcast we talked about? Here is a link to the Keefer Tested podcast about the 24 Hours of Glen Helen: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/show-252-24-hours-of-glen-helen/id1245516386?i=1000538277402
@@rmatvmc thank you!
Did this race in 2014. We started with 6 riders. We finished 2nd in our class with 2 riders. 4 got hurt. Trust me you need 6 team mates.
Four riders got hurt? What was happening out there?!?!? - Chase
@rmatvmc old guys that showed Up Unprepared, out of shap & unable to Pace themselves. 1 expert who was trying to go pro speed ate shit in that river bed leaving pits. Broke his shoulder.
If those of you watching this video have not seen the carnage from this year's northeast 24 hr challenge check it out absolutely insane the rain and flooding was cause of many flooded/ lost and hydro locked motors
a Friend of mine was only able to find his bike when it was washed down a river was by the light on his bars shining below the water surface
To me, it makes no sense for the organizer to wish
motorcycle death on us all, I mean they won't be
happy until people are falling out of the sky on their
bikes. They should stick to tough courses and let the
chips fall where they may, not layout courses that the
best of the best ruin their bikes on. A challenge is one
thing, but that doesn't seem to be the organizer's
intent lately. What they laid out at Glen Helen seems
quite reasonable, I wish the other organizers could get
a clue.
What place did the teams get?
Well, we took 1st and 2nd in our class... but we underestimated the bikes. I really didn't think either bike was capable, let alone would finish the 24hr race. We were registered in the C-class - Wes
I would love to ride and be a part of someone's team, but I'm a fat/old/bald dude that likely can't keep up with any other riders. That being said......I volunteer my 36ft camp trailer and cooking skills for the RMATV team for next year. Have a handful of older bikes to choose from if anyone needs a back-up bike.
It's just motivation to get in shape and set a goal! You don't have to keep up with anyone to do it. Who cares about other riders. You do you. - Chase
I bet all of your were more than glad to get back out of California....
25:25 ...a gas mask when you fuel up.
Next year a fire truck in each pit area, supplied
by the riders, this is important people, this
is CA, also bring a 12'x12' (min) placard, that states:
Dirt Bike components cause cancer _in California_ . : )
Why doesn't somebody tell him the whole hair/beard dye thing is not working for him? I've seen it for a while, someone needs to help that poor dude.
I hate to break it to you, but I don't use beard dye or dye my hair. But thanks for looking out for me - Chase
@@rmatvmc I see you are not ready to admit it. Cheers!