We did way before that picture came out in the 1969s we played knock out. We’d hold our breath and someone would hug us from behind and knock us out briefly.
Same here. I loved moments when they attacked the movie system, like the whole thing with the ratings system. You see the passionate in what Roger says about that dummy Jack Valenti, who probably didn't open his mail.
Yeah, they really believed in what they said about films and issues about films, like on here with the ratings problem. Valenti was a hypocrite jackass.
This is the trippiest S&E review ever. Siskel attacks, Ebert defends, Ebert attacks brilliantly, and Siskel defends. I'm not to the end yet & have no idea what the thumbs are.
I agree! It should have not been remade, Jacob s ladder was better, dealing with life after death. Ghost was way better lol .I can't believe they ended up remaking Jacobs ladder too smh!
Ebert "died" when he had surgery and lost his speech, and was resuscitated with the electric pads (he wrote about it in this blog). It is eerie to hear him speak about something that would happen for real to him decades later.
Roger mentioned that he was always fascinated by stories about the afterlife. According to Chaz, Roger's widow, Roger told her that he saw the afterlife shortly before he died. He said that it was a world that was so vast, past, present, and future occur simultaneously.
No, what happened was the X rating was changed to NC-17 that very fall (1990) to erase the stain of the X. Now, that was a step in the correct direction, the problem was that everyone ran away from it. If newspapers had allowed to advertise NC-17 films, theaters been allowed by their leases to show NC-17 films, and big studios allowed directors to make NC-17 films, it would've been okay. But they didn't do that.
It's weird but Siskel and Ebert liked it while many others didn't. And it did not do business that summer. Amazing they didn't put it on a Buried Treasures show years later. They did mention it when it went to video and did it as a video pick.
Not gonna happen, sadly. The closest they came was the NC-17 rating that fall, though. The problem is you have to enforce it and everyone has to work together. Who's gonna do that?
sha11235 Because I could be confusing Young Guns and Young Guns II, as to which I saw in the theatre. I was going to the movies nearly every week back then, and it WAS 30 years ago.
personally i dont care about ratings, when i was growing up in the 70s and 80s my father literally let me watch anything i wanted i still sort of marvel at the idea that watching some make believe film can cause harm in some way or other to children of certain ages. that said i completely agree with that idea of an A rating, to be able to make a film that is rated adults only but without having some stigma hanging over its head that its going to be lurid or perverse.
Always felt Flatliners lacked imagination. Like the part where they are doing the "experiment" was cool, so were the performances but their idea that it brought your darkess moments and that dark spirits would want revenge was disappointing.
Spot on!! I thought exactly the same thing the first time I saw it. To take a truly imaginative concept and turn it into a simple morality tale was disappointing to say the least. But the setting, with that huge Mercury head in the middle of the room, definitely added to the creep factor. I didn't know Loyola University was such a scary place.
@@edfelstein3891 Literally everytime one of their dark echo of past actions would appear, it pissed me off so much. lol I was like alright already, I hope the whole movie is not gonna be about that. It was.
It's funny that 'Young Guns II' ended up taking a bunch of liberties, while the first one was praised for being the most (believed to be) accurate depiction of the legend of Billy The Kid in film, at the time.
Teenagers do the same things at the same time all over the country. I remember in high school I couldn’t wait to go somewhere else where kids didn’t just drag the streets, so I went to my aunts in Las Vegas, and she let me drive her car and guess what the kids were doing in downtown Vegas. DRAGGING THE DAMN STREET LOL 😅
+TV6469 It might be the speed of this video. I remember originally there was time. And maybe he meant you don't have to sit thru this if you don't want to.
She did have a great sex appeal. Those big, beautiful lips. But now she looks like 10 miles of bad road. And her mouth became the size of the universe.
That isn’t very nice. We ALL change with age. I loved Mel Gibson when he was in his 30’s and 40’s. But we ALL age. There is a saying…..”you need to get comfortable with your UGLINESS.” That does not mean that a person is ugly. It just means that you embrace the aging process and don’t give a damn what others think and are comfortable with yourself. So, be kind 🌸
Honestly, I don't think the difference between R and X/NC-17 should be a thing, let alone an A rating in between. Because NC-17 pretty much means "hard R" and at this point is about as useful as the appendix.
I watched The Two Jakes many, many years ago and don't really remember anything about it which means the movie is incredibly average. I remember the bad and good movies I watch.
Not that hard. Keitel's Jake killed his partner to get his end of gas rights on their subdivision property, and his wife was the younger sister from Chinatown. The end.
I love Gene but he really does serve as an avatar for delivering a bad opinion for Roger to shred to pieces. Flatliners is a sufficiently intelligent, fun film that’s well directed and the screenplay is wildly creative and unique
When I go to a theatre to see a picture, I don’t want a big challenge, I want to be entertained, oh I like a little cat and mouse like I’d play with a beautiful lady, but I don’t want it hard as nails or pulling teeth.
Young Guns II didn't tell you about Billy The Kid because it wasn't supposed to be a documentary. Metropolitan. They are a very self absorbed group of kids and quite unpleasant. I must watch China Town and The Two Jake's again.
Whit Stillman is a good director; Barcelona was a better follow-up to Metropolitan. The Two Jakes was okay but not great. Too gassy with several scenes that should have been cut to pick up the pace.
Again they didn't quite get the movies they reviewed Flatliners was and still is an amazing film forget the sequel/remake whatever it is it's a mess but the original was amazing still at least Roger got it more than Gene but what else was he expecting with the Kiefer Sutherland story with him feeling guilty for killing Billy Mahoney and trying to right his wrong as Billy was kicking the crap out of him anyway so he needed to do something and what did he want from the ending i mean if the recent remake/sequel couldn't produce an amazing life enlightening ending this certainly couldn't but i thought all the story's were good with all the characters getting to right their wrongs also Young Guns 2 while not as good as the first was still decent and The Two Jakes was also incredible
'It's very nice for Roger Ebert to decide what are acceptable standards to write about when it comes to the hereafter. Write your own version of Flatliners if you think you can do better, Roger.
@@davidmitchell6873 , LOL! What sad part of the world are you trolling from, my sad simple little troll doll? An old Siskel and Ebert review clip is a very strange place to be trolling on, my simple friend. Are you really that drunk, or that simple? Or is it both? My sympathies to your mother, poor woman.
Hollywood made a remake of flatliners. I don't know why I'm remake was made of that movie that movie was not all that great yet they made a remake of it start raining that Ellie girl I don't know why she's really not that great of an actress either
Lots of people didn't like it. Amazing that Siskel and Ebert praised it. They also did it as a video pick when it came to video months later. I could see what they were talking about. Too bad they never put this on a Buried Treasures show.
Talk about overrated. Not a thing they said about The Two Jakes ever held water. Not even in the era the film was released, and certainly not today. That movie was a failure for multiple reasons.
I've always heard it was bad so I just wrote it off. I liked the original so much that I didn't want to tarnish it by watching a botched sequel. I'm tempted now that I've seen this review... I don't know what to do, ha ha.
TheWholeYearInn It really has nothing to do with Chinatown, other than the same character. At least I can't remember it ruining the character. It wasn't worth me remembering obviously, so I'm going to check it out again. It's far from a Chinatown level picture though, I remember that.
Maybe that's why it sank like a damn rock at the box office. I remember when it came out and Gene and Roger praised it, yet I saw many other critics didn't and the public rejected it on opening weekend.
Teenagers do the same things at the same time all over the country. I remember in high school I couldn’t wait to go somewhere else where kids didn’t just drag the streets, so I went to my aunts in Las Vegas, and she let me drive her car and guess what the kids were doing in downtown Vegas. DRAGGING THE DAMN STREET LOL 😅
Kids are going to imitate Flatliners by holding their breath. Oh, Siskel.
Its good for hiccuppers
I know; that was silly, even for him.
Good
We did way before that picture came out in the 1969s we played knock out. We’d hold our breath and someone would hug us from behind and knock us out briefly.
RIP Roger and Gene
As an 8 year old kid, I loooooooved Young Guns 2. Such a cool movie. But yeah, watching it now, it does not hold up well as they say
Watching this in 2020 and I seriously miss these guys! They helped cultivate my love of cinema.
I agree! I remember watching this show every Sunday
Yeah. I didn't always agree with these guys but I prefer them over the obnoxious reviewers on youtube.
Same here. I loved moments when they attacked the movie system, like the whole thing with the ratings system. You see the passionate in what Roger says about that dummy Jack Valenti, who probably didn't open his mail.
Metro !!!
"Every movie we see has movie stars in it".
Lolololols savage Ebert
Long Live Siskel and Ebert! I really miss those guys. We need them now more than ever.
Yeah, they really believed in what they said about films and issues about films, like on here with the ratings problem. Valenti was a hypocrite jackass.
Damn. I saw Flatliners as a teenager and totally loved it lol! These days, not so much. Lol
3 really good films. These days We’d be lucky to get 3 movies of that quality in a year let alone one weekend
This is the trippiest S&E review ever. Siskel attacks, Ebert defends, Ebert attacks brilliantly, and Siskel defends. I'm not to the end yet & have no idea what the thumbs are.
The Best thing about Young Guns II is "Blaze of Glory", the song.
Jenny Wright's bum walk was pretty nice.
And that's not so nice
I love all three movies !!!
That was a long time ago! Some great memories here
HAHA their review of Metropolitan devolves into an argument about Siskel's college days!!! Classic. I'm with Ebert on that film.
Flatliners, despite the amazing cast, wasn't very good, but next to the 2017 version it looks like the Godfather.
yes, that e. page horror show was dreadful
True true.
@@TheLiveMusicGroup lol e. page
I agree! It should have not been remade, Jacob s ladder was better, dealing with life after death. Ghost was way better lol .I can't believe they ended up remaking Jacobs ladder too smh!
Both of the Young Guns films were entertaining if a bit corny. They both at least deserved a thumbs up.
No they don't their aweful thumbs down to both of them I respectfully disagree
@@michaelorick2197 What don’t you like about them? As a kid these movies were very fun and entertaining. Today I think they still hold up.
They are predictable and dumb
Ebert "died" when he had surgery and lost his speech, and was resuscitated with the electric pads (he wrote about it in this blog). It is eerie to hear him speak about something that would happen for real to him decades later.
Young Guns II is so underrated. I loved it back then and still do
I like it, too.
At this point the original is the true the underrated one since everyone dismisses it because it doesn't have Bon Jovi.
Whoever snagged this got it from a satellite feed. My father in law used to pull down episodes of Star Trek Next Gen.
Watching these 2 talk about Flatliners is really creeping me out...
Roger mentioned that he was always fascinated by stories about the afterlife. According to Chaz, Roger's widow, Roger told her that he saw the afterlife shortly before he died. He said that it was a world that was so vast, past, present, and future occur simultaneously.
I wonder if when he got to the afterlife, Gene was the first person he saw to greet him.
Was scared of Flatliners as a kid.
They eventually came up with that rating--it was the coveted NC-17 IN 1990. "HENRY & JUNE" was the first.
But it didn't work.
sha11235 Exactly. Which in & of itself proved that the "A" rating wouldn't work, either. Same diff.
No, what happened was the X rating was changed to NC-17 that very fall (1990) to erase the stain of the X. Now, that was a step in the correct direction, the problem was that everyone ran away from it. If newspapers had allowed to advertise NC-17 films, theaters been allowed by their leases to show NC-17 films, and big studios allowed directors to make NC-17 films, it would've been okay. But they didn't do that.
The Two Jakes was simply a regurgitation of Chinatown. What a tremendous let down after such a brilliant film.
I like the two jakes love it it's perfect
It's weird but Siskel and Ebert liked it while many others didn't. And it did not do business that summer. Amazing they didn't put it on a Buried Treasures show years later. They did mention it when it went to video and did it as a video pick.
Stick with 1974's "Chinatown," you'll be amazed and thrilled for generations to come!
@@sha11235 The fact Ned Tanen hates "The Two Jakes" at Paramount/Studio Canal and he felt
it did not do good business at all.
Still waiting for the A rating.
Not gonna happen, sadly. The closest they came was the NC-17 rating that fall, though. The problem is you have to enforce it and everyone has to work together. Who's gonna do that?
@@sha11235 Like Sylvia's Grammy nominated song which she wrote back in 1981 for
RCA Nashville and the result was "Nobody." The rest is history.
Ha! That part where Ebert goes into White Knight rage against Siskel!
"You take that back, you son of a bitch! Julia Roberts is a handsome woman!"
Brundlefly classic Ebert histrionics
That was a pretty good week for movies. I’m pretty sure I saw all three of those in the theater.
How do you not remember?
sha11235 Because I could be confusing Young Guns and Young Guns II, as to which I saw in the theatre. I was going to the movies nearly every week back then, and it WAS 30 years ago.
Meanwhile, I haven’t seen 1 movie in the theatre yet this year, and probably fewer than 6 all of last year.
@@AngusRockford I guess as you get older, your memory does get hazy about things like this.
Flatliners was a great movie! Young Guns too!
This was the sequel to Young Guns, which I guess they didn't review on the show.
personally i dont care about ratings, when i was growing up in the 70s and 80s my father literally let me watch anything i wanted i still sort of marvel at the idea that watching some make believe film can cause harm in some way or other to children of certain ages. that said i completely agree with that idea of an A rating, to be able to make a film that is rated adults only but without having some stigma hanging over its head that its going to be lurid or perverse.
YAY I found S&E review Metropolitan!
Roger was always quick to defend an attractive lady.
Always felt Flatliners lacked imagination. Like the part where they are doing the "experiment" was cool, so were the performances but their idea that it brought your darkess moments and that dark spirits would want revenge was disappointing.
Spot on!! I thought exactly the same thing the first time I saw it. To take a truly imaginative concept and turn it into a simple morality tale was disappointing to say the least.
But the setting, with that huge Mercury head in the middle of the room, definitely added to the creep factor. I didn't know Loyola University was such a scary place.
@@edfelstein3891 Literally everytime one of their dark echo of past actions would appear, it pissed me off so much. lol I was like alright already, I hope the whole movie is not gonna be about that. It was.
Young guns 2 is a movie that doesn’t take itself too seriously so giving it a serious critic just doesn’t make sense
I didn't even know Chinatown had a sequel o_O
I caught it on Netflix yesterday.
It's well made technically, but it's no Chinatown.
It came out in the late summer of 1990 and bombed.
Chinatown didn't need a sequel.
Neither did anything else.
Good point, debgibsonfan.
@@MrHEC381991 It was always planned to be a trilogy, based on the history of L.A.'s water, gas, and pollution. The sequel bombing ended that.
I’d love to see them both return from the dead to give a better, more insightful review of Flatliners.
They gave a great review of it
@@imcallingjapan2178 but what kind of reviews would they give with some real perspective on the afterlife.
@@gumdroplandfilms Beetlejuice, I guess.
It's funny that 'Young Guns II' ended up taking a bunch of liberties, while the first one was praised for being the most (believed to be) accurate depiction of the legend of Billy The Kid in film, at the time.
The young guns movies are stupid I hate them
@@michaelorick2197 Well, maybe the Young Guns movies think you're stupid. You ever thought about that before?
Whoa that's trippy. I didn't even realize just now I was replying to my own comment from a year ago.
11:34 lol, love these guys...
What was funny about that?
Teenagers do the same things at the same time all over the country. I remember in high school I couldn’t wait to go somewhere else where kids didn’t just drag the streets, so I went to my aunts in Las Vegas, and she let me drive her car and guess what the kids were doing in downtown Vegas. DRAGGING THE DAMN STREET LOL 😅
Huh. Keifer Sutherland had a good year.
No, the movies weren't that good but lucky to have the multiple jobs.
I love the guy saying, "Don't be fooled, things ain't what they seem to be." That is funny shit.
He says look away at the same time the hands gets chopped off. You have no time to do it. Why'd you even give the warning then lol?
+TV6469 It might be the speed of this video. I remember originally there was time. And maybe he meant you don't have to sit thru this if you don't want to.
because he was an idiot
The perfec-
Julia Roberts have such a unique sexiness
She did have a great sex appeal. Those big, beautiful lips. But now she looks like 10 miles of bad road. And her mouth became the size of the universe.
@@captaincaveman2040 I would marry her
@@captaincaveman2040 She just looks her age, fifties, idiot.
That isn’t very nice. We ALL change with age. I loved Mel Gibson when he was in his 30’s and 40’s. But we ALL age. There is a saying…..”you need to get comfortable with your UGLINESS.” That does not mean that a person is ugly. It just means that you embrace the aging process and don’t give a damn what others think and are comfortable with yourself. So, be kind 🌸
Roberts looked best in "I Love Trouble" (1994), looked worst in "Mary Reilly" (1996).
Before she cut her hair short (in Steel Magnolias) she was absolutely beautiful in that movie. Also in Erin Brochovich.
They might ask for a refund after seeing those shocking images.
Honestly, I don't think the difference between R and X/NC-17 should be a thing, let alone an A rating in between. Because NC-17 pretty much means "hard R" and at this point is about as useful as the appendix.
siskelandebert.org in the description is a fanicial website, not the actual website of Siskel & Ebert.
I watched The Two Jakes many, many years ago and don't really remember anything about it which means the movie is incredibly average. I remember the bad and good movies I watch.
So a movie gives itself this "A" rating for Adult....But then they just show the scene on broadcast TV??????????
They were able to show this one, apparently. I wonder if there was a little bit of a debate in doing that.
I agree, I wouldn’t have expected that. Weird.
My brother billy shoemaker was in young guns 2 as the black smith! All the crue would go out and shoot pool drink beer! Except Lou dimond Philip s
He do anything else?
I practically had to take notes to keep up with the plot of "The Two Jakes." Confusing as hell.
Not that hard. Keitel's Jake killed his partner to get his end of gas rights on their subdivision property, and his wife was the younger sister from Chinatown. The end.
I didn't know there was a sequel to Chinatown.
Cliff Slatterly It was originally supposed to be a Trilogy...I don't know what went wrong....
Guess, Jack didn't want to do a third one. This made pretty decent money, I remember reading. Like 50 or so million bucks.
Cliff Slatterly The 2nd film made that much money..??....I had no idea...
I couldn't believe it either.
Cliff Slatterly This sequel sank like a rock at the box office that summer. Siskel and Ebert loved it, but that was mostly it.
I love Gene but he really does serve as an avatar for delivering a bad opinion for Roger to shred to pieces. Flatliners is a sufficiently intelligent, fun film that’s well directed and the screenplay is wildly creative and unique
Spot on with young guns 2. Characters great. But really bad plot. Part 1 much better plot
So that scene, among others, earned the movie an "X" rating in 1990. Shit, I've seen worse things on _Hannibal_!
+gspendlove This was years ago, that's the thing. But the whole idea is that we do need an A rating to give filmmakers more latitude.
sha11235 I agree. But there've been a lot of changes at the MPAA since Jack Valenti died. A lot more stuff is acceptable in R-rated movies now.
+gspendlove How about making an A rating now that Valenti is dead?
+gspendlove that movie would still get an nc-17 today
+Travis Eddings he means the TV series
Both the Young Guns movies have aged badly. MTV silly westerns.
When I go to a theatre to see a picture, I don’t want a big challenge, I want to be entertained, oh I like a little cat and mouse like I’d play with a beautiful lady, but I don’t want it hard as nails or pulling teeth.
17:00 I did this in college hung out with people because they have free beer ....you don't even want these people to think they know you
siskel and ebert put down alot of great movies that we're good
you come to individual reviewers for subjectivity, you can go to review aggregates for a simulacrum of objectivity
Flatliners was a snorefest.
Young Guns II didn't tell you about Billy The Kid because it wasn't supposed to be a documentary.
Metropolitan. They are a very self absorbed group of kids and quite unpleasant.
I must watch China Town and The Two Jake's again.
Whit Stillman is a good director; Barcelona was a better follow-up to Metropolitan.
The Two Jakes was okay but not great. Too gassy with several scenes that should have been cut to pick up the pace.
I can’t believe they showed the hand being chopped off. Jesus....
It's actually not too bad the way they showed it. And I love the "director" saying the line afterwards.
Miss the boys
Shockingly graphic scene for TV. They should've just described it without showing it.
Again they didn't quite get the movies they reviewed Flatliners was and still is an amazing film forget the sequel/remake whatever it is it's a mess but the original was amazing still at least Roger got it more than Gene but what else was he expecting with the Kiefer Sutherland story with him feeling guilty for killing Billy Mahoney and trying to right his wrong as Billy was kicking the crap out of him anyway so he needed to do something and what did he want from the ending i mean if the recent remake/sequel couldn't produce an amazing life enlightening ending this certainly couldn't but i thought all the story's were good with all the characters getting to right their wrongs also Young Guns 2 while not as good as the first was still decent and The Two Jakes was also incredible
Did they review the original Young Guns?
I don't think they did.
Maybe not on the show, but maybe in print.
I don't think they reviewed it in print either because Roger Ebert reviewing Young Guns is not on his website.
Maybe only Gene did for his paper. Remember, his reviews didn't appear on Roger's website, of course.
I know that. P. S. I didn't know you have a cousin who works in the industry until I saw a comment of yours on their Jim Carrey special.
240p we meet again
Ebert never liked being disagreed with.
Flatliners 👍🌟🌟🌟
Young Guns 2 👎🌟
The Two Jakes 👍🌟🌟🌟
Metropolitan 👍🌟🌟🌟
Life is Cheap 👎🌟🌟
when i was a kid i liked this , saw it recently and the flashback stuff is borborboring and ruins it, same with It
both young guns r great
As if medical students would have time for these kind of shenanigans.
There is a sequel to China Town?!?
Yes ,it sucks
@@terryjackson324 But it bombs.
'It's very nice for Roger Ebert to decide what are acceptable standards to write about when it comes to the hereafter.
Write your own version of Flatliners if you think you can do better, Roger.
Shut your pie hole clown.
@@davidmitchell6873 , LOL!
What sad part of the world are you trolling from, my sad simple little troll doll?
An old Siskel and Ebert review clip is a very strange place to be trolling on, my simple friend. Are you really that drunk, or that simple? Or is it both?
My sympathies to your mother, poor woman.
Why are they reviewing Films from back in the day ?
Duh, this is from the summer of 1990 this show.
Hollywood made a remake of flatliners. I don't know why I'm remake was made of that movie that movie was not all that great yet they made a remake of it start raining that Ellie girl I don't know why she's really not that great of an actress either
Well, if you are going to remake a film, never remake a masterpiece. Remaking Flatliners is okay because it wasn't the biggest thing.
Two Jakes was terrible, it lacked a pulse and it felt like a parody of the gangster genre. Metropolitan was great, though
Lots of people didn't like it. Amazing that Siskel and Ebert praised it. They also did it as a video pick when it came to video months later. I could see what they were talking about. Too bad they never put this on a Buried Treasures show.
Flatliners was ok, strange direction. Only worth the 1 watch
I didn't like young guns I didn't like young guns 2 their aweful
Whatever happened to Julia Roberts? She was Soo hot, loved her as a trashy skank in Pretty Woman. Now she looks like a beat down old hag.
I am guessing that Julia Roberts doesn’t give a FUK what you think of her. Good for her. You are just an ass!
Talk about overrated. Not a thing they said about The Two Jakes ever held water. Not even in the era the film was released, and certainly not today. That movie was a failure for multiple reasons.
I've always heard it was bad so I just wrote it off. I liked the original so much that I didn't want to tarnish it by watching a botched sequel. I'm tempted now that I've seen this review... I don't know what to do, ha ha.
TheWholeYearInn It really has nothing to do with Chinatown, other than the same character. At least I can't remember it ruining the character. It wasn't worth me remembering obviously, so I'm going to check it out again. It's far from a Chinatown level picture though, I remember that.
TheWholeYearInn it sucks, but it's watchable
If it sucks, how is it watchable.
im gonna trust two legendary critics who approach movies with the idea to give them a chance, vs some guy on the internet with an axe to grind
The Two Jakes is an awful movie.
Maybe that's why it sank like a damn rock at the box office. I remember when it came out and Gene and Roger praised it, yet I saw many other critics didn't and the public rejected it on opening weekend.
julia roberts is not attractive.
Teenagers do the same things at the same time all over the country. I remember in high school I couldn’t wait to go somewhere else where kids didn’t just drag the streets, so I went to my aunts in Las Vegas, and she let me drive her car and guess what the kids were doing in downtown Vegas. DRAGGING THE DAMN STREET LOL 😅