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- The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor and Chris Vernon discuss the playoff matchup between the Timberwolves and the Suns.
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this video didnt aged well 😂😂
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Big gut check for the Wolves, KAT and Ant. Are the real or are they not? Ant and KAT can prove they are worthy right here. (I think Ant is, sooner or later. I have always had doubts about KAT. Dude should break the game but it never seems to happen consistently.) They had a chance at best record in the West and flubbed it. The knock on Rudy with Jazz is they couldn't make them pay enough at the offensive end to justify keeping Rudy on the floor. MIN is a much better defensive team that that Jazz. Can they stop the hemorrhaging?
If Beal keeps this up Suns are going to the Finals
I doubt that. Beal has been great down the stretch but Booker and especially KD have been worse as a result.
@@Mektek19Kevin that’s averaging 27 a game? Kevin is a clutch player! He helps close games you’re just weird
He better not keep up 100% three point shooting
@Mektek19 I wouldn't say he's worse but he's definitely not as involved on offense as he was at the beginning of the season. Frank Vogel uses that man like he's a PJ Tucker role player as of late.
They suck tf 😂
Tired of people talking about regular season W-L as the determining factor. People could lose every game to the Lakers and they would still pick them as an upset in the playoffs. 56 wins in the regular season on a consistent basis was not enough to earn the flowers from ANYONE.Be the best defense means nothing compared to teams that take 80 shots a night. Strap in and don’t feel sorry for us wolves fans. I’m
Coming back to cash the tickets when the wolves win in 5.
Lessgo a sweep
As a Suns fan I am cautiously optimistic, but I still remember how inconsistent the Suns can be so I can't be confident. To me, the regular season record doesn't really mean a ton when forecasting playoff matchups. The Suns had won like 8 straight games in the regular season against the Mavs before the 2022 conference semi-finals, and all Suns fans remember how that turned out. But, I just don't know if KAT, returning from injury, can stay on the floor against this matchup. Even when healthy there's no defensive matchup you love for him. If he isn't hitting his shots, if he's turning it over when he sees a double, or if he's committing offense fouls trying to taking advantage of switches onto smaller guys, he can't play on offense either.
That being said, the key to the Suns winning in the regular season was slowing down Ant. I just think Ant is too good to be slowed down by the boxes and elbows defense the Suns have been showing him. Gobert is capable in more aggressive pick and roll coverages, which he will have to do because drop doesn't work against the Suns. The Wolves have tried their best to not double and blitz in the regular season matchups, but that's the Suns' weakness so I'm sure they will in this series. Nurkic is very inconsistent, but he has to keep trying to score while rolling or Gobert will begin to roam off of him. I think the Wolves one-big lineups, especially with Reid or KAT, can cause Nurkic to be played off the floor too.
Overall I think Suns in 6, but there will definitely be times in the series where it looks like the Suns are going to get blown out.
Never mind the Wolves, despite the Suns up and downs all season (and they have adjusted a completely new team all year with minimum continuity) they know they are more than a match for any team in the west, beating the nuggets twice in Denver, the Wolves three times so they’re not phased by any team in a playoff series. It’s no longer the regular season, their players have their reputations for being among the best when they apply themselves, their record is not a reflection of how they play at their best, it would have been a top 4-5 place in some previous playoff seedings. Their various collective and individual stats are superb throughout but also in phases of the season. They are now a seriously motivated and galvanised team who are also well aware of their own weaknesses. No team wants to face Phoenix but Phoenix will challenge any team.
No team wants to face Phoenix, yes, but Phoenix is also prone to inconsistent play and has been their own worst enemy. Too early to say that they've figured it out or not.
The Suns are just not good. Their shooting will not continue to be crazy like it was in the regular season against the Wolves. Defense will grind them down, I'm thinking wolves in 6.
Wolves are much deeper, and if you blaming Rudy, you showing how much of a casual you are.
Im a Suns fan but I don’t want to get too comfortable that the Suns can beat the Wolves so easily..
they will beat the wolves easily you’ll see suns in 5
@@xkid.darkskin5178 Why do my fellow suns fans never learn. Where do you get this confidence in a team that has flamed out 3 straight years from?
@@xkid.darkskin5178Wolves will make some adjustments I’m sure. They have a good bench, so they have the option to get flexible with their lineups.
@@xkid.darkskin5178 nope
Lol incoming sweep tonight
Ant was trying to bait Beal into throwing a punch to get him ejected. Beal was not falling for the banana in the tailpipe trick.
I guess if you can't guard Beal, might as well try to get him ejected. Problem solved.🤣
wtf I didn't recognize kevin until he spoke
He went from bad to worse 🤮
They haven’t gotten our best effort.
1st game - day after the in season tournament. Wolves were on a B2B.
2nd game - missing Kat.
3rd game - KAT just got back from surgery.
I don’t think Ant has taken the matchup serious. But he will. He coasts vs bad teams and Phoenix don’t look like a threat if you standings watch. Wolves just need to stop playing the Suns game and trying to match up to what they are doing and just play their own game. Go big and make them react to us. Don’t let them dictate tempo cause more possessions just plays into what the Suns want. More shots.
I got Wolves in 5. We go up 2-0 at home. Lose game 3 in PHX, win Game 4. Close series at home in game 5.
People never look at what really happened in those games, or they see the boxscore and automatically say, "Suns blew them out, not even close," but those people are in for a rude awakening! I predict wolves blowing the Suns out Saturday. Set the tone of the series. Ant drops about 25 to 30pts. Kat adds like 20 , gobert gets a double double pts and rebounds. But the x factor shines through, Naz Reid gets back on track and adds an additional 25 plus of the bench. Naz has struggled against the Suns, but I feel he regains his confidence this round. I say wolves in 6 or 7. KD is leaving the Suns this summer, and this may get the train rolling.
If the Wolves needs ANT to push the pedal to the floor in terms of his scoring output to help win out for the series I think he will. Suns were also down 0-2 last year vs the Nuggets and it took a huge effort from KD/Booker to combine at least 70+ points in games 3 and 4 to tie it up. So ANT gotta show he's always got that 35~40+ point heater ready late in the series.
@@t4d0W facts! Wolves are lucky that their role players stepped up. Their defense is really what won this game. Holding Phoenix to under 100 points again. Definitely showing why they remained number 1 in that category all season long. Suns are 0 and 14 when down 2-0 in a playoff series. This one will probably be a gentleman's sweep
Wolves going to prove you all wrong
I liked the clarification here that Rudy is not the problem. He’s been so good this year and still has his detractors but I think he is not going to be “exposed” - if anything he’s probably the key to getting Nurkic in foul trouble and opening up driving lanes later in the game.
Look at the numbers.. Phx has outscored Wolves with Rudy on the court by double digits every game this season. That could change but that’s clearly been PHX plan is target Rudy & play him off the floor. I understand he’s been good but no other team can hit the midrange like PHX and he seems to be a liability bc his strengths are in drop & paint protection & that’s not PHX game plan
Rudy's defense has never really been an issue. The issue is his offensive limitations. And when teams can lessen his defensive impact by pulling him away from the rim, his offensive issues become magnified.
@willcozine3795 it'd be nice if they called flagrant 2 when Rudy gets smacked in the face instead of no call or a common foul.
Uh rudy is not a good player. The players dont even want him on their all star squad.
@@ghostazp3377 Could be that they just don't like him? Why wouldn't that be the explanation? Isn't that simpler?
Bad match up? None of the Suns can frikin match up hunt the smallest guy in the Wolves lineup in Mike Conley. Meanwhile the Suns are pitiful on the boards and barely beat out the Wolves on the glass in game 2. Only because the Wolves were still finding big buckets elsewhere. Suns don't have anyone reliable to throw at Ant or even KAT if he gets the hot hand. Suns will get their big scoring game off Booker/KD but the consistency won't be there to keep it close. Especially if pressure is on Booker to buy buckets in an elimination game.
My question is what is KOC going to use to defend Gobert this time?
Small ball hasn't really been effective against the Wolves this season so far. Even in the PHX games, I believe the most effective lineups were the ones with Nurkic. When teams have gone small against the Wolves, typically they have been able to punish it and use their size to dictate the game (so far). I don't think that small ball is necessarily going to be as effective as people think.
I think small ball only works against the Wolves in the one big lineups.
Wow. This has aged well...
Is Chris Vernon a casual? Still thinks gobert can be played off the court?
Fun watching this after game 1
Even more fun after game 2.
@@SincerelyJnC The fun just keeps going after game 3.
Even better after game 3😂
@@ericjablonske9390 wolves look like they could be bringing out the broom for game 4. So yea this video that wolves are no match for suns has aged very very well. 😂
How did the Suns all of a sudden become the best team in the Nba
Beal KD and Booker will be too much for anyone in the West including the Nuggets
Lmfao
Yes.
Well.... The Suns got Punk'd today.😂
Put ant on beal McDaniels on book and force them to let KD run the offense. Hes always struggled as the lead ball handler in the playoffs
“let KD beat you” 💀💀
That method worked well against the Celtics when KD was on the Nets because at that time they had a complete fool as a coach. And they were facing off against a coach that knew what he was doing that was also on the Nets coaching staff the previous year.
Ime Udoka KNEW that Steve Nash would have no answers to anything he was doing. Frank isnt exactly the best coach (he's too rigid in his ways and sometimes his rotations are dumb), but i expect him to at least have enough experience to see this and adjust to it (even though offense is a weak point for him).
@@smoothsavage2870 u know what happened in the celtics series right? they put their 2 best defenders on that man damn near every time he touched the ball. If mcdaniels and ant are on the guards, you want mike conley guarding KD? gobert? KAT? he averaging 40 and the series is over in 4/5 if thats the game plan
The 4th option for the Suns is the highest percentage 3 guy in the league and will dominate Conley going to the rim with size. We watched him and Beal both do that last game. Easy consistent buckets. Also Book and Durant can elevate their jumpers over anyone. The only way teams have consistently beat the Suns is by shooting a lot of 3’s above a 40% average.
@@smoothsavage2870you're absolutely right about Steve Nash in that Celtics series but Vogel has been giving me those same vibes ALL SEASON! I don't trust that guy at all!
(Phoenix)-Buying in, not buying in, buying in lemme guess…. Not buying in now?
The suns are going to go small without Nurkic and Eubanks. KD at the 5. If they win those mins, Minnesota can't beat them
I hope they do that, small ball has almost always failed against the wolves this season. Even when the Suns played them, the best minutes were with Nurkic on the floor.
They got PACKED UP
if the suns go small they may benefit on offense but on defense it will hurt more than it helps on offense
Beal will find a different defensive strategy for him. The Wolves will make adjustments. Injuries were a big part of the difference.
Well.......
Vernon still going with that "play Gobert off the floor" delusion. Cool...
Every game the Suns were shooting lights out and the Wolves were bricking.
Not even in the sense of the Wolves defense was bad or that they arent a good shooting team.
Just outliers.
Yes all 3 games were Suns dominated, my question though is:
What happens when it flips?
What happens when Nurkic gets in early foul trouble and the Suns cant stop Minnesota.
What happens when the Suns dont shoot 55 percent from 3 but 35?
The Suns havnt had adversity in this series yet.
Is it because theyre that much better? Maybe
I think it had more to do with the ball going their way more than anything.
Is Ant going to have more points than the Suns in game 7 going into the half?
Wolves in 7
The Suns are just a bad matchup..It happens in sports.Maybe with a few adjustments, the Wolves can overcome it.If you look back to 2022, the Suns had beaten the Maverick 8 times in a row leading up to their playoff series.Even blew the Mavs out in gm 1 & 2.By gm 3, the Mavs made adjustments & basically obliterated the Suns from that point forward.
That's what people who think the Suns will easily win are missing, all of the games so far have been the BEST case scenario for the Suns. It's not always going to be like that. Suns are a good team, play good defense but some of the offensive struggles is just the Wolves missing open shots that they normally make. Suns are a scary offensive team that match up well, but some of what we saw was the Suns being red hot... and they aren't always going to be red hot with their shooting, as talented as they are. Plus, who knows what adjustments will be made. I lean the Suns winning the series in a pretty close 6 games, I really doubt its an easy 6 games though.
@@Jacob-gm4hq Suns offense is scary but it has hitches. Even last year vs the Nuggets they couldn't figure out the skip pass in the first 2 games and missed buckets that way. Games 3-4 required herculean scoring efforts from Booker/KD to match Murray and even Jokic who had a 53 point bomb in game 4. After that the Nuggets could still score however they can and the Suns ran out of gas on offense with Booker melting late in the series as usual with his 12 point stinkers. Edwards can still score various ways and puts pressure with his easy ability to attack the hoop that the Suns don't have the bodies to make it difficult for him.
Suns have 3pt shooters to help KD and Booker unlike last year in playoffs. Beal Allen, Gordon, O’Neil and Bol Bol Can all spread the floor. I think suns can beat Denver as well. The team suns will struggle against will be Dallas Clippers and OKC
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None of the Suns 3-point shooters perform at consistency and high volume in the playoffs to be a serious threat in the whole series. They are all hot and cold with O'neale going 4-8 in game 1 and Eric Bledsoe going 3-5 in game 2. Hell Beale hasn't even gotten to Klay Thompson playoff volume in recent years.
We sweeping the Suns . Bring on the Nuggets !
As Madonna predicted - Vogue's
Come on people. PHO misses roleplayers. MIN is a complete team with way more flexibility. Booker and Beal are liabilities
KOC looking fresh with the shaved Face
Kevin and Wos are those dudes who throws 26 sh!!eet on the wall and maybe 2 pieces stay sticking on the wall. But at least Kevin and wos has their convictions😂 with their dirty stinky wall.
Bill simmons is the boss and Bill is one of the best sh!!eet throwers on the wall😂
No way you've been watching the Suns THIS SEASON if you're harping on Frank Vogel "Adjustments" & "Counters"! That man is being carried by their talent bcaz his decisions/lineups often coach them right out of games! 😂🤣😂
If Wolves beat the Suns, they will win the championship
😂😂😂
I dont believe the wolves are ever going to win one
Legoat in 6 vs nuggets.
Play Bol Bol and we good.
The Suns are 11-2 against Edwards
Exciting matchup! But....The Suns shot 9 percentage points higher than their season average on threes and Minnesota shot 10 percentage points lower.. Was it coaching or was it choking? Will that shooting last through a 7 game series? Whatever it's going to be exciting.
This hasn't aged well lol
🐺 in 4
Kevin O'butter face. Bring back the beard
oh, Suns bout to wash em lol everyone knows Ant Man even knows shit i’m a Kd fan …..! run it
UH OHHHHH. RINGER NBA WHAT HAPPENED? The faithful shall be rewarded once again. Please make another video saying the Nuggets will win. Keep that same energy and we will see you in the finals
Suns in 4
Tell me he doesn't look like a white Draymond😂
Don't be surprised the Suns make it to the Finals.
KOC got fat
Twolves wont win more than 1 or 2 games. Rudy and Kat will be killed after switches. Kat cant punish Kd in the post. Ant will have to go nuclear to even give them a chance. Beal has quitely been really efficient. Kd and Book along with him and sneaky good/solid years from Allen and Nurk is too much.
What happens when the Suns face adversity?
We know they can win when every shot is falling, and the Wolves are missing everything.
What happens when it flips?
They gonna be outscored by Ant in game 7 going into the fourth?
We've seen it before
We have also seen Durant come up short without Steph.
@@zachphillips7997 Suns have 3 great scorers. Wolves only have Ant and Karl Anthony Clowns, who has never done shit. Who is more likely to go cold. Kd was the Warriors best player, made the finals at age 23 at Okc, dragged Russ to multiple conf finals and nearly beat the 2021 champ Bucks without kyrie and a half dead Harden. Suns were the only team to give the nuggets trouble even with an injured Paul and a liability at center named Ayton
@pipohemm8726 KD who hasn't done shit without Stephen?
He got swept in Brooklyn LMAO
Or Booker who has choked in big moments
Just PRAY Ant doesn't have 26 going into half in game 7 while the Suns have 26.
@@zachphillips7997 game 7, you should be happy to live by game 5
Dude Ant averaged over 31 points in last years playoffs against the defending champs. What makes you think Ant won't flip that switch again vs the Suns?? And if you watched the wolves all season , you would know they have one of the deepest benches in the league. Naz Reid, who can put up 25 off the bench on any giving night, Monte Morris who has a ring with Denver, Jmac and many others. Those games in the season were all just good shooting nights for the Suns and bad offense for the wolves. The first game wolves were on a b2b, the second game Kat was out but the wolves still held Phoenix under 100 points in that game, and the last game Kat was just getting back into the rotation and the wolves just wasn't making the shots they usually get to fall. So don't get too ahead of yourself because anything can happen in these series.
(Unfortunately the Suns are 3-0 regular season vs the Timberwolves)
November 15th 2023
(Minnesota Timberwolves- 115)
@(Phoenix Suns- 133)
April 4th 2024
(Minnesota Timberwolves-87)
@(Phoenix Suns-97)
April 14th 2024
(Phoenix Suns-125)
@(Minnesota Timberwolves-106)
Pro tip: It is gantlet, not gauntlet. A gauntlet is a armored glove. A gantlet is basically a spanking line. Which would you need to make it through? (It is misused so much that "gauntlet" is now considered correct, but still the etymology does not line up.)
or just watch the video on basketball and you are literally wrong. look gauntlet definitions up.
@@aidancarmody4978 I did. It is throw down the gauntlet and run the gantlet. Dig deeper.
@@David-iv6je or listen to basketball. “running through the gauntlet” is an open challenge or an unpleasant experience with multiple parties attacking you. Websters Dictionary states gantlet as the act of running through two rows. what u said is false and you’re talking abt it under a basketball accounts comment section.
@@aidancarmody4978 From the Chicago Tribune:"Well, which is it - “gantlet” or “gauntlet”?
Above Friday’s Page 1 story detailing how some Chicago public school students dodge gangs and violence on their way to class appeared the headline “The gantlet.”
Readers were incensed. And the gauntlets - er, gloves - came off.
In fact, the headline apparently sparked so much interest that the term “gantlet” rose to No. 10 on Google’s list of hottest Internet searches Friday morning.
How could the Tribune commit such a grievous error? We’d clearly chosen the wrong word, dozens of readers told us by phone and e-mail and in online comments.
Had we?
Webster’s New World College Dictionary, which we use in the newsroom, prefers “gantlet” when describing the act of running between two rows. The dictionary also accepts “gauntlet” in this usage, though the primary definition is a medieval glove worn by knights.
For consistency, newspapers adopt a style that ensures one, uniform use of certain terms. In the Tribune’s case, we go with Associated Press style, which is to use the term “gantlet.”
The response shows that the spelling we chose, though correct, was less familiar to readers. The alternative? Bow to common usage by choosing “gauntlet.”
Can we all just pick up our gauntlets now and move on?" :)
@@aidancarmody4978 GrammarBook: "Gantlet, Gauntlet
These two words, despite their similarity, come from different roots. The distinction should be preserved.
The expression run the gantlet means "to undergo criticism or harassment from several sources in a concentrated period of time." It is often written run the gauntlet, which makes language nitpickers cry foul.
To throw down the gauntlet is to aggressively challenge someone. To take up the gauntlet is to accept such a challenge.
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T wolves need this loss they’ll finallly trade KAT after this.
Suns in 4
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I got wolves making it competitive but I do see the suns winning 4-2 convincingly
i got suns in 5, 3 sorta competitive games and 1 win for the wolves
Get this man drug tested.
This aged well. 😂