Two heavyweights in their field, with absolute respect for each other, tackling a difficult subject, treading carefully and still going deep and facing those subjects . Amazing to watch
Yeah because if you say something with the wrong tone of voice you'll get fired from your job, your wife will leave you, your kids won't talk to you. This conversation is only difficult because it's so taboo if you even think about it in the wrong way you'll be punished. If there was no camera there would be no need to tip toe.
They were really talking about an innate gene with some cultures or species of humans that has a lash out affect of keeping more of there ken species. and using and wiping out different species with genetic genocide techniques. Basically describing every war of human history it's in the very DNA pattern of us all but the people who act on it are bastardized martyrs in there own screwed with minds.
in fact the nature of the german wehrmacht was weakened throughout the whole war because of the nature of german command. Because everything had to be approved at the top any changes in battle plans would often take the time needed to same those same plans from going to shit... Hitler didn't approve every troops trip to the bathroom but the level of Micromanagement by late 43' and on is honestly downright impressive and indicative this guy was not just above average intellect but a true genius. And he had all the cliche mental illnesses associated with genius (depression, mania, anxiety, hyper/ hypo sexuality the list goes on and on, and don't ghost hitler im crazy too...)
WWII in general needs to be talked about because it shaped the world into what we have now. Also, that war was far worse than most people even realize. When you really dig deep, it’s hard to imagine that many people committing atrocious, evil acts. Read about Japan, one could argue they were even more sadistic than the Nazis. And the Allies weren’t 100% innocent either. It’s hard to imagine how recent it was too. Both of my Grandfathers fought in it, I never knew them because of what the war did to them. They were broken people. My parents didn’t even really know them either. Lots of stories like that.
The winners write history. Which means world war 2 more than any other event in human history should be re-examined, and reinvestigated especially towards a consideration of Revisionists who’s voices have been terminated for decades.
I think it was during the invasion of China, two Japanese officers decided to have a contest as to who could behead the most people. . If I remember correctly, the winner was around 150 or so. Both officers were celebrated in the Japanese press. The level of depravity during WWII was unimaginable.
Let's be real how many top tier journalists do you actually know. People interviewing dictators en guerilla leaders with massive ego's with the very real possibility of losing their heads. Joe is great but has plenty of flaws and doesn't really ever broach important, dangerous and difficult topics. He gives people a platform to speak their truth without questioning the narrative, and when he does its not very sharp.
I dont think he was as bad as hes made out to be, after all he wasnt born that way, he was just influenced by the social and economic climate of 19th-20th century germany and the history he studied which helped to skew his beliefs, most notably on the jews. Ofc i dont agree with all the idiotic plans he approved for slavery and death camps. Im not saying he wasnt bad at all, just that he gets demonised more so through ignorance as most ppl dont know the finer details of 'the jew problem'
@James Tyler that's not p.c in pc times. We are adulting on mass without the genocide . Might turn into a sit in at home discussion with all the countries for world peace :-)
Because they don’t want Nazis flocking to them. They did their best to condemn Hitler but there’s still talk of the ‘Jewish Question’ in these comments.
Mihir Deshmukh Haaha, yeah. Especially Bret starting every his statement with apology or explanation. Nowadays pc reality because anyone can be offended by anything.
How? Every time I hit play again, Weinstein gaslights about something, this time for example saying the jews "had little power". No, they destroyed Germany multiple times starting with the Reichbank in the 1890s, again during the Weimar years, and almost succeeded in multiple Bolshevik uprsings.
I respect Joe Rogans cability to listen and let his interviewees talk inform and educate, especially when dealing with controversial subjects. Fantastic.
It’s nice to see Jordan with other open minded people; he’s much more relaxed. You can tell in his confrontational interviews that he doesn’t really enjoy battling the interviewers, but does so out of obligation. Honestly, world needs less of attacking and more of understanding
That was a weird discussion. Famous people trying really hard to have an honest discussion but afraid to have something taken out of context and used against them. We live in an odd time when one aspect of society will pick one sentence and try to destroy someones career.
There has never been a time where this didn't happen. The only difference is that those people congregate on the internet and can communicate with each other to effect more change. There was never a magical time where people could say whatever they wanted without repercussion.
There are literally people who sit all day on their computers and get a high out of ruining someone’s career. They will do anything to accomplish such deeds. Nowadays you can take any few second clip, add a caption to it presenting it in a certain light, and the entire world will actually buy it thinking it’s true. There seems to very few skeptics these days that are actually willing to look into things more thoroughly before making a judgment.
I think what hes saying is its crazy that we can't take words the way they're meant to be interrupted, instead people know what they're twisting isn't necessarily how it was stated but instead they twist words just to destroy their career. It's very sad honestly.
As a subject, it’s hard to find people reasonable enough to have such discussion. It seems to me, they can talk about it because they analyze it on a logical and structural view, not an emotional view of pain and death. This separation is not easy for the general population and we will often see successful people being more likely to do it and apply it to their benefit.
Put aside his treatment of Jews in order to judge him fairly in everything else and i can safely say without any bias the guy was a huge piece of shit even more so when compared to other trash. Druggy one at that but no one ever talks about it.
How did u come up with such a good anology, I mean what inspired u or what gave u the idea? Genuine question The thing is i'm not that great with anologies, and am trying to improve upon them.
The Law i doubt anyone would want to drink the blood, feces and human flesh infested waters after Gangis Khan slaughtered a million residence of a city with a river flowing through. Stories of how many rivers ran red and how long is shocking.
@@postersandstuff YESSSS such grandiose phrasing, such a grasp on language.......if I wasn't a man I'd let pour chocolate on me and Call me Mi Lord, alas it is so that you are not a man, and so it's only Hairy Islamic die hards Illo let anywhere near my wangus .....good day sir
"...You can't say he [Hitler] was without artistic talent..." Yeah...that didn't end well for the world last time someone told Hitler he had no artistic talent.
It's crazy to see a debate in this day and age that is purely logical and not based entirely on "YOU SAID I'M WRONG WTF!" It's great to see people can still have a conversation without someone basing their entire argument on how they feel, but instead approaching it with logic and care. Because of this, I don't anyone in the video is liberal
It’s funny how when you put two highly intelligent men in a room who disagree, however slightly, they can joke, respect each other, find common ground, just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you can’t respect them ❤️
"highly intelligent men" is key to your point. Wise people don't get angry when they are disagreed with. It's usually an opportunity to learn something even if you still walk away in disagreement. It's the fools that try to talk over each other to "win" an argument that's unwinnable in the first place.
@@adamsymcox *I don't even hear the beginnings of a possibility of a notion that could be entertained as coming close to being near or in a vicinity adjacent to anything like a thing that could be described, categorized or mistaken as a disagreement, in any form, whatsoever, at all!!!*
There is no other historical event that's as heavily guarded as the 'hall of cost". Its a punishable crime in over 17 countries to question the official narrative. And in America, they've already passed laws that make it illegal to criticize one specific tribe .
"intellectual titans" That`s not accurate, but for someone who doesn`t know about any other intellectuals besides TH-cam personas i guess it could fit.
@@whatwhat3432523 Well the irony is that haters like yourself are who turned Peterson into a Social Media Celebrity. You do know he has a degree in Political Science, and is a Doctor in Clinical Physiology don't you? A PHd Doctorate makes you a recognized intellectual.
Weinstein is a biologist. Journalists have taught us to speak extremely cautiously whenever we're speaking publicly. Just read any online news article about science and see why...
Of course everyone should be cautious, but not so much that you have to worry that your livelihood will be ruined by one misunderstood/twisted turn of phrase.
That was fkn amazingly fascinating!!! SunTzu gave a thumbs up 👍 You can explore and learn about evil and not BE evil. As a matter of fact that makes you better prepared to battle evil.
It's actually hilarious how cautiously people have to explain something soo straightforward nowadays due to how quickly and easily people get triggered lol
Partially disagree. I do think that there is danger in dismissing some ideas as irrational because you’re allowing said idea to continue developing ie. Holocaust denial or Flat Earth society. However, not every challenge to our sense of morality is equal and shouldn’t be treated as such. Racism apologists and pedophile apologists don’t go hand in hand with equal rights activists.
I agree.. until someone says “pedophiles should be classed as a sexual orientation and be respected”. Then I say “no debate here suck ya mom through a McDonald’s paper straw you wrongun”
@@roland7799 No one is saying these concepts should be accepted. He was saying, no TOPIC should be taboo, because if it is, we can't do proper research, and that will ultimately damage us.
Hitler gave Heydrich and Himmler a lot of free reign in delegation. Arguably, both of them were far worse monsters than Hitler. So strange as well the Hitler is such a touchy subject, but Stalin rarely gets a mention, despite being infinitely worse than Hitler in every way possible.
Aldx Jone : CHOKE ME OUT EDDIE! EDDIE COME OVER HERE & CHOKE ME! CHOKE ME! CHOKE ME! DAMMIT EDDIE COME KNOCK ME OUT! Joe Rogan: Please don't Eddie, don't do it, please sit down. Eddie Bravo: *sitting down* *crickets"
Not sure where I stand on this, partly because I'm not certain I completely understand, but I admire the courage to address this. I believe curtailing discussion on any subject does not advance our interest in the long run.
Brett wanted to be the catalyst to reform the Left from within. I said that he was gonna get red-pilled over time. Well, sounds like (courtesy of FB) that's what's happening.
The fact people KNOW about the agenda perpetuated by FB and Twitter, and those people STILL haven't deactivated their FB and Twitter accounts, is far more scary! GET OFF FACEBOOK AND TWITTER IMMEDIATELY!!!
I get your point but I think it’s good that people have become more sensitive towards certain topics. I get that it seems stupid having to clarify that you think Hitler is evil. But if you look at the past and how topics like racism, fascism and inequality in any kind of form were played down in the way we talked about them I think we made a huge progress in becoming more sensitive. My point is that although the sensitivity might appear rather silly it actually helps in recognising the problems.
Because in other countries you can go to prison if you disagree or come across as a holocaust denier! Thank the people who market off the death of their own!
I just think we have to evolve and understand that we dont have to say everything that's on our minds to clarify common sense. To be accused as a pro hitler only because you wanted to disect his beliefs is unreasonable.
80 fucking years later, yet some people steal believe that there's a "neonazi" uprising going on in the US, all led by internet trolls those damn nazis and their ability to crack tasteless jokes is gonna ruin america
Theyre not even disagreeing, theyre just expressing different viewpoints on the subject. They both have different ways of framing it but theyre kind of meeting up at the same end. This is just an interesting conversation barely a "disagreement"
The fact that Weinstein has to state "I want to be really careful about this, so that it cannot be misinterpreted" before almost every sentence displays how far off track we are already. Who in their right mind would actually believe a jew defending Hitler's actions from an ideological perspective? Great conversation nonetheless.
Yeah, the problem might be that you hold humanity as a whole in a somewhat higher esteem than it deserves. Most individuals react on emotions because building complex ideas guided by a reasoned moral basis is simply beyond their limits. This example, to me, seems like a logical side effect. Its only on new media with smaller niche audiances where these ideas can be discussed in a normal framework it seems..
Respectfully, I think that you may have misinterpreted the overarching premise. I think he was suggesting that Hitler isn’t necessarily a statistically insignificant outlier; though he might be a representative of the chance pairing of immense opportunity and an ugly element that is latent in all people.
Marieke, Weinstein was very clear that he wasn’t defending Hitler. He specifically stated that Hitler’s ideas were in error. It seemed to me that all he was saying is, “be aware of rational programs that are making headway towards genocide, because it’s likely that your hard-wired self defense mechanism for your race(read “tribe”) might allow you to rationalize the brutal acts similar to what Hitler instituted in Europe. He didn’t expound on what caused the perceived need for additional “resources,” maybe it was obvious and l’m just oblivious, none-the-less a careful review of his words suggests that he was not defending Hitler. Telling a cautionary story, would be a better way of looking at it.
I just love listening to two people genuinely trying to understand each other with different views have a real discussion, even if it is super carefully. So refreshing
@@jordanharkins97 I don’t know man, all my peers keep calling me a freak and a bitch whenever they see me. I’m not sure, but it often just ends up with me crying in the corner....
@@Ryo-xx1lm Exactly the more they dilute the conversations and make everything seem sensitive to others. The more they will kill our knowledge and our attempt at understanding history and before you know it the history that is trying to be taught will end up repeating itself.
Anyone who claims to be a historian and thinks the Nazis fought WW2 for racial reasons is an idiot. It's like people that think the Civil war was about fighting slavery. These are small aspects of the overall reasons for the war.
The war was fought with the intent to secure lebenrausn for the German race, as Hitler deemed Germany was too small for the German people. He also saw slavs as lesser value humans who needed to be enslaved and exterminated. How the fuck is that not racially motivated?
My girlfriend gets so pissed when she's upset about something and tells me what it is only for me to respond with "so just to make sure I understand, you're upset with ____" To me I'm doing what they're doing, I'm clarifying to attempt to remove the possibility of miscommunication. She says if I'm listening I shouldn't need to repeat it.
The fact that you aren't allowed to have these sort of discussions on mainstream media outlets is exactly why alternative media is winning (and, I might add, superior). Alternative media outlets are literally preserving truth by upholding free speech. If you assume that free speech is necessary to a well functioning open society, then preserving the integrity of platforms such as as TH-cam is of utmost societal importance.
I feel that alternative media has always been won/been around. Theres NEVER and never will be a time where main stream media is open, transparent, honest and willing to discuss so called "black market conversation" Mainstream media is just here to try to keep the masses at ease, not respond to all the real bullshit that's going on in the world and just do population control. U want people to work 40 hours, make enough to take a girl u wanna fuck out for dinner maybe 1 vacation a year, and a apartment/house with little debt as possible. In the past 10.years alternative news sources are at its peak, and thriving because of the internet. Even for the right wing u have crowder, Shapiro, Rubin, etc.....so alternative is for any ideology, any philosophy. ... Even now mainstream putting their news clips on our main page.....look at pakman recent video about this, losing tens of millions of views a month while CNN getting more views now all because TH-cam is distorting people. .I always had a conspiracy theory, one came true "the advertising and putting all mainstream news clips on the very front or top recommendations on all 300 million Americans watching TH-cam. Now my final one is TH-cam Gunn be like cable TV. At first everything is free, u get channels, alternative and mainstream alike all participating which drives up viewership. Than comes along the hotspresd of millions of new channels. Like comedy central doing real real dirty and alternative jokes to having history channel etc. TH-cam has all of it now. Which is the start of the addiction. Now since people are addicted to TH-cam (mean that in a analogy not actual chemical addiction) just like sports on cable back in the 70's pretty much all free to view. TH-cam years back did the "pay 5$ a month and watch TH-cam created shit" I GUARENTEE once us millenials become parents Nd have mortgages there going to make everyone pay for it thus creating cable TV but in the internet point of view. Only gunna be mainstream news, as we see alternatives losing all revenue. TH-cam will become strictly mainstream and for the mainstream. (Besides few anomalies like anything else like JRE, comedy guys, even people like crowder and TYT may stay since they have some.power) But once TH-cam becomes 100% mainstream. And a paid service. You will get another unexpected, newly invented service just how TH-cam came about and the birth of Facebook. There will be some entrepreneur who creates some awsome service that alternative media, perspective and honest journalism will flock too and compete against the mainstream media . We had this for newspapers via magazines and other papers who produced awsome alternative, than cableTV, now its internet age so yea. Alternative will never replace mainstream but alternative will always compete and fight against power
mr. JDP P Wouldn’t TH-cam already be considered mainstream? I’m pretty sure it’s the 2nd most used search engine after google, and most news outlets/channels have TH-cam channels.
You're absolutely right, internet platforms must be preserved and protected from the censorship and biasedness of mainstream journalism, the problem is that the companies that manage these platforms are often biased themselves, and can manipulate invisible algorithms in order to avoid too much opposition to their agenda
It is "winning" in views because it is more accessible now and offers detailed stuff about very specific areas of x and y. Just like Wikipedia isn't popular because it is exclusively free or not allowed elsewhere, but because it simply has something for everybody to feed on. Ditto for TH-cam.
24 "news" channels are about entertainment. You get a jerk host, two jerk guests and have them yell at each other for ten minutes. A couple commercial breaks and move on to the next segment. The problem isn't the networks, it's the people. People are mostly morons that don't want to spend 3 hours watching an intellectual conversion. They want to be entertained and that's what modern news gives them.
@@fireengine77 Peterson is specialized and smarter in many areas compared to a vast majority of people, AND arguably synthesizes on those topics, revealing wisdom in remarkably unique ways. But one of the biggest parts in being wise and competent, is being able to talk with anyone or interact with anyone on the matter. The more you can simplify, the better you understand and the more accessible it is.
People think monsters should not be 'respected' by today's definition but there is a difference between honor and respect. Many historical monsters are easy to disrespect, willy nilly angry, evil purely emotional characters. The few monsters who deserve respect are the most dangerous of all. They get their evil done and they do it well. This is why we must be careful to be honorable and look for honor in others more than we look for respect in ourselves or others.
Remember Peterson's own teachings: you can't learn anything new from people who already completely agree with you. So many youtube comments going on being confrontational about Weinstein while Peterson himself is sitting here absorbing what Weinstein says and finding how the different perspective offers new insights into his own. If you want to support Peterson you should focus on acting out his advice rather than hating on people that Peterson himself sits there, politely listens to, and learns from.
You can't learn anything from an uneducated moron who is constantly making things up and pulling trivial wrong claims out of his arse like Jordan Peterson does. You need ten hours of research for every half hour of his 'lectures' only to find out, none of his claims is true.
Hans-Joachim Bierwirth If it is a fact he makes things up, instead of you saying he is a moron you should dispute with FACTS. Because what you are doing is exactly the same. And that is the problem Jacob Davis puts forth also: People who refuse to open a dialogue and just point to others as the problem without offering a counter argument based on facts. How can people expect to convince others if all they are saying is "because he is a moron" or the Eddy Bravo favourite conversation ender: 'Look into it" You might disagree with Peterson, but he is not uneducated. Or do you think Harvard and later the University of Toronto did not check his credentials when they hired him?
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 in fact you can learn from an uneducated moron - not that I'm saying Jordan Peterson is uneducated because i think the mere fact that he lectures at all points to him being quite educated actually - but you can even learn from listening to a childs perspective . If you want to bring up other things hes talked about which you seem to think are false on a video that has nothing to do with either of his 'false points' you speak of, it is more telling that you are in need of your own self reflection than anything else. If you think he is uneducated, in which way did this conversation prompt such a response from you? He listened very attentively, made sure to point out and clarify many aspects of each point of view. These are all very essential to having meaningful discussions about ideas.
When I used to think about what college was going to be like, I thought my professors would be like Mr. Peterson and Mr. Weinstein. Boy was I wrong--I would've loved to have either one of these guys as an instuctor.
Tell me about it as part of mine I had to do economics, I was told trumps economic policies were stupid even tho they completely boosted the economy. Just tells me not all those guys are as smart as we think
I had a world war 2 vet that backpacked across Europe after the war was over, he drove an old beat up Volkswagen bug yellow w/ a bandaid on the hood.. one of the most interesting men I’ve encountered
@@Rubberbandfan1 Not saying that all my professors where not top notch, few were acceptable, although, most of them certainly did not aspire to be so. What I was commenting on had to do with my professors lack of passion for their craft. For perspective this was in the early to mid 90's, I am sure academia is different now. I did not experience the passions or preciseness of Peterson or Weinstein, I would have treasured it though. To answer your question UNO, UK, Mechanical Eng----Never spoke with any one who thought ALL of their professors were "top notch", interesting
Never seen Rogan so quiet. But seriously, I love the way Brett Weinstein speaks, it’s so clear. And of course, Peterson is Peterson. Great discussion with substance.
Inner joe: “I wonder if hitler did dmt”
Lmao
Hahahaha excellent.
@JTagStudios I was about to say that. Hitler gave all his troops meth. Not a joke.
@@Jedi_Are_Scum US presidents did meth too
John Smith who would give war troops heroine lol. Meth stimulates you but heroine makes you zzz
Last time I seen a conversation this careful I was explaining my browser history to my wife.
Lmfao
Laughed out loud to this
Why, was Hitler in your browser history? ;-)
😂😂
Lmaoooo
Two heavyweights in their field, with absolute respect for each other, tackling a difficult subject, treading carefully and still going deep and facing those subjects . Amazing to watch
Both these guys are morons posing as geniuses but at least Peterson can speak well.
lol Jordan Peterson isn’t a heavyweight
@ says you but Genesis was better with Peter Gabriel
@@philcollins7269 he is though, psychologists use him for references all the time
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Its nice to see Jordan Peterson having a good time during a conversation.
Everything and everyone seems very peaceful when you don't have one of those feminists around!
This conversation felt like defusing a bomb with a 1000 wires connected to it
Making it incredibly harder to keep up with as an non native English speaker
Lucas Alves they were using a lot of big ass words lol
Yeah because if you say something with the wrong tone of voice you'll get fired from your job, your wife will leave you, your kids won't talk to you. This conversation is only difficult because it's so taboo if you even think about it in the wrong way you'll be punished. If there was no camera there would be no need to tip toe.
They were really talking about an innate gene with some cultures or species of humans that has a lash out affect of keeping more of there ken species. and using and wiping out different species with genetic genocide techniques. Basically describing every war of human history it's in the very DNA pattern of us all but the people who act on it are bastardized martyrs in there own screwed with minds.
It's an absolute tragedy
This is how people should disagree.
The Dris did they disagree?
They didn't really disagree though. Turns out the disagreement was all a misunderstanding.
nah people should just take aim and attack each other on Twitter
Agreed. We all could learn from examples like this.
in fact the nature of the german wehrmacht was weakened throughout the whole war because of the nature of german command. Because everything had to be approved at the top any changes in battle plans would often take the time needed to same those same plans from going to shit... Hitler didn't approve every troops trip to the bathroom but the level of Micromanagement by late 43' and on is honestly downright impressive and indicative this guy was not just above average intellect but a true genius. And he had all the cliche mental illnesses associated with genius (depression, mania, anxiety, hyper/ hypo sexuality the list goes on and on, and don't ghost hitler im crazy too...)
WWII in general needs to be talked about because it shaped the world into what we have now. Also, that war was far worse than most people even realize. When you really dig deep, it’s hard to imagine that many people committing atrocious, evil acts. Read about Japan, one could argue they were even more sadistic than the Nazis. And the Allies weren’t 100% innocent either. It’s hard to imagine how recent it was too. Both of my Grandfathers fought in it, I never knew them because of what the war did to them. They were broken people. My parents didn’t even really know them either. Lots of stories like that.
The winners write history. Which means world war 2 more than any other event in human history should be re-examined, and reinvestigated especially towards a consideration of Revisionists who’s voices have been terminated for decades.
My grandfather "PawPaw Eddie"
U.S.M.C U S.N
WWII KOREAN WAR
I think it was during the invasion of China, two Japanese officers decided to have a contest as to who could behead the most people. . If I remember correctly, the winner was around 150 or so. Both officers were celebrated in the Japanese press. The level of depravity during WWII was unimaginable.
The more you look, the more you read about the holocaust the less any of it makes sense.
Considering the state of the modern world compared to Hitler’s Germany it’s not exactly clear that the good guys won.
Rogan knows when to talk and when to listening.He is also funny and smart at the same time and the greatest interviewer ever.
Do you think he will talk about the massive study that has now concluded that Ivermectin is not effective in treating Covid?
I know when to listening.
Ahh Sean Evans is up there but if we're talking long form Interviews rogans got it
Let's be real how many top tier journalists do you actually know. People interviewing dictators en guerilla leaders with massive ego's with the very real possibility of losing their heads. Joe is great but has plenty of flaws and doesn't really ever broach important, dangerous and difficult topics. He gives people a platform to speak their truth without questioning the narrative, and when he does its not very sharp.
@@benedicthampus4964 you can’t even form a sentence u dumbshit
Joe in the background: *takes long hit from a joint* “so is Hitler a bad guy or not?”
Yeah, I could see that.
LMAOO😁
Like Norm says, The more I hear about this Hitler guy, the less I like him.
I dont think he was as bad as hes made out to be, after all he wasnt born that way, he was just influenced by the social and economic climate of 19th-20th century germany and the history he studied which helped to skew his beliefs, most notably on the jews. Ofc i dont agree with all the idiotic plans he approved for slavery and death camps. Im not saying he wasnt bad at all, just that he gets demonised more so through ignorance as most ppl dont know the finer details of 'the jew problem'
@@InfinitumPueri you're an idiot!
Most careful conversation ever
Because you shouldn’t be careful when discussing genocide in recent times.
@@mjnorman9824 that might not hurt actually
@James Tyler that's not p.c in pc times. We are adulting on mass without the genocide . Might turn into a sit in at home discussion with all the countries for world peace :-)
Because they don’t want Nazis flocking to them. They did their best to condemn Hitler but there’s still talk of the ‘Jewish Question’ in these comments.
Mihir Deshmukh
Haaha, yeah. Especially Bret starting every his statement with apology or explanation. Nowadays pc reality because anyone can be offended by anything.
Can you even imagine what the world would be like if our leaders discussed important matters like this and came to rational conclusions?
Words doesn't change the world, money and power does
I struggle to imagine morons having this kind of conversation.
People would stop voting for them and switch on loud mouths because that's what people like to follow. Authoritarian yellers, no matter the side.
How? Every time I hit play again, Weinstein gaslights about something, this time for example saying the jews "had little power". No, they destroyed Germany multiple times starting with the Reichbank in the 1890s, again during the Weimar years, and almost succeeded in multiple Bolshevik uprsings.
@@pyrosophy680 If you say so.
I respect Joe Rogans cability to listen and let his interviewees talk inform and educate, especially when dealing with controversial subjects. Fantastic.
He is, imo, one of the better interviewers out there. Love seeing his videos (well most of them).
Me at every family function:
*We are almost 3 hours into this and we havent spoken about Hitler?*
Jesus dude
@@scottgordon1799 Jesus bro guy dude
@@moneris7069 Holy fucking shit Jesus Dude/Man/Pig Hybrid
too good bruh
holy jesus of jesus dude
00:03 When you have been hanging out with your pals for 3 hours and you haven't even talked about Hitler yet.
We've all been there, right fellas?
@@goulash31 yea we’ve all had that jolly chat about genocide at the family Christmas dinner right guys? Guys?
0:50
666 likes! I’m calling the cops
Lol
It’s nice to see Jordan with other open minded people; he’s much more relaxed. You can tell in his confrontational interviews that he doesn’t really enjoy battling the interviewers, but does so out of obligation.
Honestly, world needs less of attacking and more of understanding
You're right! But assuming that most of other people will certainly attack or take advantage of your humbleness. One needs to adapt. Sadly.
"You can't say that he was wrong about a Certain group of people"
That was a weird discussion. Famous people trying really hard to have an honest discussion but afraid to have something taken out of context and used against them. We live in an odd time when one aspect of society will pick one sentence and try to destroy someones career.
There has never been a time where this didn't happen. The only difference is that those people congregate on the internet and can communicate with each other to effect more change.
There was never a magical time where people could say whatever they wanted without repercussion.
There are literally people who sit all day on their computers and get a high out of ruining someone’s career. They will do anything to accomplish such deeds. Nowadays you can take any few second clip, add a caption to it presenting it in a certain light, and the entire world will actually buy it thinking it’s true. There seems to very few skeptics these days that are actually willing to look into things more thoroughly before making a judgment.
There are good and bad aspects of every tyrant and 'hero'
It would be nice to have discussion on stuff like this without repurcussions
It’s always been like that wtf lmao
I think what hes saying is its crazy that we can't take words the way they're meant to be interrupted, instead people know what they're twisting isn't necessarily how it was stated but instead they twist words just to destroy their career. It's very sad honestly.
Joe breathing heavily in to the microphone to keep himself in the conversation.
Lmaooo
Underated comment
😂😂
😭
i hear it!!!
The most careful conversation ever
As a subject, it’s hard to find people reasonable enough to have such discussion.
It seems to me, they can talk about it because they analyze it on a logical and structural view, not an emotional view of pain and death. This separation is not easy for the general population and we will often see successful people being more likely to do it and apply it to their benefit.
A good emotional view of this is Paul conti on lex Fridman
"The more I learn about this Adolf Hitler fella, the more I don't care for him." -Norm Macdonald.
Legendary
The worst part was his hypocrisy
Put aside his treatment of Jews in order to judge him fairly in everything else and i can safely say without any bias the guy was a huge piece of shit even more so when compared to other trash. Druggy one at that but no one ever talks about it.
I didn't even know he was sick
I have to admit though that there was something about his eyes... hypnotic.
This is a video of two men helping each other to walk a tightrope so they can have a fist fight on solid ground.
Dude. Fucking PERFECT.
Nice, good analogy.
Such an underrated comment
How did u come up with such a good anology, I mean what inspired u or what gave u the idea?
Genuine question
The thing is i'm not that great with anologies, and am trying to improve upon them.
That was an incredible grasp on this. Appreciate it.
Intelligent men with differing opinions respecting each other, listening and engaging in coherent dialogue. Can't beat it. Pity its so rare.
The garage looked great! I missed the cat! Maybe two “cats” in one garage is too much? LoL production…top notch! Congrats!!
Gangis Khan: the ultimate environmentalist.
The Law i doubt anyone would want to drink the blood, feces and human flesh infested waters after Gangis Khan slaughtered a million residence of a city with a river flowing through.
Stories of how many rivers ran red and how long is shocking.
Nah hes second to the unabomber
hahahahaha AOC's and Greta Thunberg's idol
Arcavian Empri Baghdad ?
@@EdyPegasus humans are not divine
Rogan: "Let's talk about Hitler"
Peterson: *shifts uncomfortably in seat*
The names evil
Typhlosion in Pompeii It’s incredible how externally and internally/self-aware Dr. Peterson is!
Typhlosion in Pompeii love this comment
@@rustypatterson1339 based on propaganda yes.
@@FinalFlash2110 oh god
Analyzing history and tragedy- how admirably done and respectfully debated.
A showcase of how to be civil over disagreements.
I just love Joe Rogans concept of being interrested, listening in, instead of interrupting!
I believe Joe Rogan to be one of the best interviewers; for the simple fact he facilitates incredible conversations, and he lets his guests talk.
Glad he’s doing that now, yeah.
Lmao finally let's them talk...
He lets very smart people talk but when hes with other comedians he cuts them off
@@Koolkidzao
He doesn't always
Just what I thought bud.
He got the conversation started and then took a back seat ride, absolutely beautiful.
'We are almost 3 hours into this and we haven't spoke about Hitler.'
Joe Rogan just drops such great conversational talking points sometimes hahaha
We did *nazi* it coming :P
He just knows what to say, a great interviewer.
You gay for him?
@@postersandstuff YESSSS such grandiose phrasing, such a grasp on language.......if I wasn't a man I'd let pour chocolate on me and Call me Mi Lord, alas it is so that you are not a man, and so it's only Hairy Islamic die hards Illo let anywhere near my wangus .....good day sir
Where is the rest of the conversation?
The whistle at the start .... LoL 😂
Today I learned: 1 out of 3 men are bald.
😂
Make that two. Peterson has had hair grafts.
Shit I guess I am not really that rare.
@@spookybaba He only had some to restore a widows-peak. Far from bald.
Less hair you have the closer to godlike you are, the more hair you have the closer to ape.
A Jew, a Canadian and Joe Rogan walk into a podcast
Joe Rogan is his own race
@@Blank-km4qr i can't think of any race or ethnicity that looks like joe rogan
A jew, a Canadian and a walking DMT
@@CacoExplosivo caveman
😂
"...You can't say he [Hitler] was without artistic talent..."
Yeah...that didn't end well for the world last time someone told Hitler he had no artistic talent.
It's crazy to see a debate in this day and age that is purely logical and not based entirely on "YOU SAID I'M WRONG WTF!"
It's great to see people can still have a conversation without someone basing their entire argument on how they feel, but instead approaching it with logic and care. Because of this, I don't anyone in the video is liberal
I’ve never seen two fully grown men tip toe on their toe nails for 9 minutes straight.
hahaha
Now you have
The whole thing is like that for more than 3hrs
Sparring
What do you expect with how stupid people are when it comes to comprehending ideas? Lol
What I love about Joe Rogan is he doesn’t need to hear himself talk...if he doesn’t have something to add, he just listens. Great host!
This is a rarity though. Joe is infamous for interrupting and taking over the conversation. But he knows his place
@@FREEDMFTR shut up
He adds shit in all the time dude
This is only with guys he knows are significantly higher in knowledge then him. When he has his average Joe on he talks way to much
Joe is the best.
this is how I imagine a debate should be like in politics and in general
Amazing to have clipped this
Kids, if someone ever asks what does "walking on egg shells mean?"
Show them this video
True story. I'll remember that for future reference.
@Joe Bloggs couldn't agree more. Well said.
@Joe Bloggs elaborate?
🤣
@Joe Bloggs How was hitler a good guy? and why were his victims the true bad guys?
This is a genuine question, and ur answer needs lots of proof m8.
It’s funny how when you put two highly intelligent men in a room who disagree, however slightly, they can joke, respect each other, find common ground, just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean you can’t respect them ❤️
Mutual respect goes a long way
now try with a woman lmao
I feel a dummy around Jordan
"highly intelligent men" is key to your point. Wise people don't get angry when they are disagreed with. It's usually an opportunity to learn something even if you still walk away in disagreement. It's the fools that try to talk over each other to "win" an argument that's unwinnable in the first place.
two
I could listen to these three gentlemen talking about any subject…
i almost forgot that joe is also there 😂, great host, great listener .
JR knows he is totally out of his depth. Best to say nothing and let the two would-be intellectuals bloviate.
Genghis khan is basically Low-Key Thanos
my first thought when I heard that fact
Thanos isnt real tho
tom oh shit really? I thought the Marvel Cinematic Universe was based on real events.
You dont know your real history player. Get off that tv crap
Nigga did 10% of the human populi in
‘I don’t disagree with you’
*puts ‘disagreement’ in the title*
Total clickbait ... nothing clip
They believed they were in a disagreement prior to the podcast. In this clip, they are clearing the air
Right?!? What a waste of time!
@@adamsymcox *I don't even hear the beginnings of a possibility of a notion that could be entertained as coming close to being near or in a vicinity adjacent to anything like a thing that could be described, categorized or mistaken as a disagreement, in any form, whatsoever, at all!!!*
@@sirf4ce you forgot to keep Caps lock on
The title: they disagree
The conversation: we don’t disagree
There is no other historical event that's as heavily guarded as the 'hall of cost".
Its a punishable crime in over 17 countries to question the official narrative. And in America, they've already passed laws that make it illegal to criticize one specific tribe .
It's clip like these where Joe rogan shows why he's the best... Not many hosts would just shut up and let these two intellectual titans talk
It's called being utterly out of your depth
@@therobbieunited people that are out of the depth don't always shut up
Joe also annoyingly disrupts and goes off on tangents in other interviews though.
Pretty good Host overall though.
"intellectual titans" That`s not accurate, but for someone who doesn`t know about any other intellectuals besides TH-cam personas i guess it could fit.
@@whatwhat3432523 Well the irony is that haters like yourself are who turned Peterson into a Social Media Celebrity.
You do know he has a degree in Political Science, and is a Doctor in Clinical Physiology don't you? A PHd Doctorate makes you a recognized intellectual.
I wish we lived in a world where these guys could discuss this stuff without having to cover their asses every 2 minutes.
Weinstein is a biologist. Journalists have taught us to speak extremely cautiously whenever we're speaking publicly. Just read any online news article about science and see why...
Its actually better if all people are more careful. It makes them more sensative to smaller details
ultraali453 This is true, and small details are in fact, important in such nuanced discussion.
Of course everyone should be cautious, but not so much that you have to worry that your livelihood will be ruined by one misunderstood/twisted turn of phrase.
*viewer discretion advised*
Boom, done.
That was fkn amazingly fascinating!!!
SunTzu gave a thumbs up 👍
You can explore and learn about evil and not BE evil. As a matter of fact that makes you better prepared to battle evil.
Come back here every few months Great discussion 👍🏿
It's actually hilarious how cautiously people have to explain something soo straightforward nowadays due to how quickly and easily people get triggered lol
100%
@NcryptoMistro please go do some research my guy this is an insanely arrogant comment
@NcryptoMistro you're full of 💩. But all leftist shills are.
Yah. I don't like people lol
@NcryptoMistro both sides of that bullshit conflict need to be nuked.
No topic should be seen as taboo for discussion.
Having something which is boxed that way does not benefit humanity.
If anything, it hurts us.
Micah agreed... the left is only making all those conspiracy theories flourish instead of the opposite... they are shooting their own leg...
Partially disagree. I do think that there is danger in dismissing some ideas as irrational because you’re allowing said idea to continue developing ie. Holocaust denial or Flat Earth society. However, not every challenge to our sense of morality is equal and shouldn’t be treated as such. Racism apologists and pedophile apologists don’t go hand in hand with equal rights activists.
I agree.. until someone says “pedophiles should be classed as a sexual orientation and be respected”. Then I say “no debate here suck ya mom through a McDonald’s paper straw you wrongun”
@@roland7799 No one is saying these concepts should be accepted. He was saying, no TOPIC should be taboo, because if it is, we can't do proper research, and that will ultimately damage us.
Micah didn’t you kill Arthur
Hitler gave Heydrich and Himmler a lot of free reign in delegation. Arguably, both of them were far worse monsters than Hitler. So strange as well the Hitler is such a touchy subject, but Stalin rarely gets a mention, despite being infinitely worse than Hitler in every way possible.
“What should we do with these people?”
This is the strangest pornography I've ever watched.
so much ball licking xD
Roscoe sands -- Intellectual porn.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If this is wrong I don’t wanna be right
HELLO FREAK BITCHES
Imagine Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo discussing like this instead yelling over each other
Wobbly Rooster lol
It wouldnt be funny anymore
I actually dont think I want to
Aldx Jone : CHOKE ME OUT EDDIE! EDDIE COME OVER HERE & CHOKE ME! CHOKE ME! CHOKE ME! DAMMIT EDDIE COME KNOCK ME OUT!
Joe Rogan: Please don't Eddie, don't do it, please sit down.
Eddie Bravo: *sitting down* *crickets"
Sounds boring
I am addicted to all these great conversations on Joe Rogan and some other podcasts...
Hard to argue Pederson.
Please change the video title from "disagreement" to "discussion"
It would get less clicks sadly
Anthony Buboltz that’s just the truth sadly
it was an original disagreement
click bait brought us all together.
shellfish355 makes no difference
"You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy the more I don't care for him" - Norm MacDonald
He was a real jerk
I didn't know he was sick
He reminds me of that tragedy
That is a very dangerous way to ignore how easy it is to orchestrate a clandestine effort to secure every aspect of a civilized society.
He wasn’t as bad as...you guessed it! Frank Stallone
Not sure where I stand on this, partly because I'm not certain I completely understand, but I admire the courage to address this.
I believe curtailing discussion on any subject does not advance our interest in the long run.
I love and miss these conversations so much in todays climate. 💙🤘🇺🇲
The fact that Twitter banned Bret’s organization and Facebook just deleted his account (with zero explanation) should scare the shit out of all of us
You mean they deleted some nazi trolls,doesn't sound too scary
@@jeremysmith8035 your stupid
Brett wanted to be the catalyst to reform the Left from within. I said that he was gonna get red-pilled over time. Well, sounds like (courtesy of FB) that's what's happening.
@@jeremysmith8035 They’re still banning free speech with no explanation. Some people can’t comprehend how dangerous that is
The fact people KNOW about the agenda perpetuated by FB and Twitter, and those people STILL haven't deactivated their FB and Twitter accounts, is far more scary! GET OFF FACEBOOK AND TWITTER IMMEDIATELY!!!
It's kinda sad how in this generation we have to clarify to the tiniest of detail to affirm that we're not being offensive in discussions like such.
only if you have a job with pc management
I get your point but I think it’s good that people have become more sensitive towards certain topics. I get that it seems stupid having to clarify that you think Hitler is evil. But if you look at the past and how topics like racism, fascism and inequality in any kind of form were played down in the way we talked about them I think we made a huge progress in becoming more sensitive. My point is that although the sensitivity might appear rather silly it actually helps in recognising the problems.
Because in other countries you can go to prison if you disagree or come across as a holocaust denier! Thank the people who market off the death of their own!
Calling something a China Virus is racist? But ya know, it is? There is no bigotry in that statement.. I'm so lost
I just think we have to evolve and understand that we dont have to say everything that's on our minds to clarify common sense. To be accused as a pro hitler only because you wanted to disect his beliefs is unreasonable.
"Some day someone may do the same thing about Adolf H-tler..."
I mean, my BMW is pretty great, though.
This is an extremely interesting argument both interesting perceptions. This should be discussed in school
that is the longest ive seen joe rogan go without interrupting to talk about mushrooms
That's crazy but did himler try dmt?
@@mrnobody6447 to be fair he did do many hard drugs so it's not outside the realm of possibility. Can someone fact check?
Rob S did you see that guy who hit a moose with his car?
O how novel a joke about Rogan talking about psychedelics! But for real... part of why Joe is famous is he knows how to shut up at the right times.
Rob S IKR!!!!! The podcast was super boring because of it
I love how only in a Hitler conversation do you have to stop every ten seconds to clarify that you don't actually support the man
You don’t have to… ;)
Only the mighty can bear defeat!!
80 fucking years later, yet some people steal believe that there's a "neonazi" uprising going on in the US, all led by internet trolls
those damn nazis and their ability to crack tasteless jokes is gonna ruin america
That's actually terrifying, that we cannot say anything we want anymore.
Arthur Morgan, aka Tacitus Kilgore.
Theyre not even disagreeing, theyre just expressing different viewpoints on the subject. They both have different ways of framing it but theyre kind of meeting up at the same end. This is just an interesting conversation barely a "disagreement"
Joe just can’t help but throw Genghis Kahn into any conversation. 🤣
The fact that Weinstein has to state "I want to be really careful about this, so that it cannot be misinterpreted" before almost every sentence displays how far off track we are already. Who in their right mind would actually believe a jew defending Hitler's actions from an ideological perspective?
Great conversation nonetheless.
Marieke yeah but like people think Ben Shapiro is a nazi
Yeah, the problem might be that you hold humanity as a whole in a somewhat higher esteem than it deserves. Most individuals react on emotions because building complex ideas guided by a reasoned moral basis is simply beyond their limits. This example, to me, seems like a logical side effect. Its only on new media with smaller niche audiances where these ideas can be discussed in a normal framework it seems..
Respectfully, I think that you may have misinterpreted the overarching premise. I think he was suggesting that Hitler isn’t necessarily a statistically insignificant outlier; though he might be a representative of the chance pairing of immense opportunity and an ugly element that is latent in all people.
Marieke, Weinstein was very clear that he wasn’t defending Hitler. He specifically stated that Hitler’s ideas were in error. It seemed to me that all he was saying is, “be aware of rational programs that are making headway towards genocide, because it’s likely that your hard-wired self defense mechanism for your race(read “tribe”) might allow you to rationalize the brutal acts similar to what Hitler instituted in Europe.
He didn’t expound on what caused the perceived need for additional “resources,” maybe it was obvious and l’m just oblivious, none-the-less a careful review of his words suggests that he was not defending Hitler. Telling a cautionary story, would be a better way of looking at it.
Marieke, you made a good comment. I'm sorry everyone went full retard in response to it. The masses are scary.
"I'm going to enjoy watching this"
Peterson is hilarious.
BiGSH0TROB. I see nobody put your hypothesis to test, ahahahaha.
Obviously he did. And since he's not responding it means that the good Sherif is now a bullet lighter and an experience richer.
No he's not he just stats facts that are true
@@DrBiBeatz "i redefine things when they don't line up woth what i want"
He is everything but hilarious
Back when JRE was the thing to watch/listen to. Crazy how times have changed…
An articulate way to state that history repeats itself. We are on the precipice again today.
I just love listening to two people genuinely trying to understand each other with different views have a real discussion, even if it is super carefully. So refreshing
Right! If only politicians could practice this more
Yes very hard not to be fully attentive when people discuss the human condition like this . Left me wanting more
This is the norm in real life
@@specialperson335 it used to be....
Agree
I really miss the "Hello, freak bitches" before every video.
I am the freakiest of all bitches, and I am offended that they put an end to that. It triggers me.
@@michaellynch2168 idk I’d go on to say that I’m the freakiest, and you claiming that you are instead of me is highly offensive
@@jordanharkins97 we need to have a freak bitchoff!
@@jordanharkins97 I don’t know man, all my peers keep calling me a freak and a bitch whenever they see me. I’m not sure, but it often just ends up with me crying in the corner....
Let's do it SON! MA FREAKBITCHESSNESS IS UNPARALLELED. I'll put it to the test ma dude!!!!
That was such a great conversation, very respectful.
I think they’re just reading me and boys’ group chat messages
OK wait a minute I got one “ A clinical psychologist and an evolutionary biologist walk into a bar...”
We're waiting
with a mixed martial arts comedian podcast host as the bartender. Next?
One says to the other. “here’s what I think about hitler.”
Everyone in the bar leaves because they enjoy having a career.
@@ryanluft6866 Need an asian or a rabbi...wait...asian rabbi.
"A blind man walks into a bar, and then a chair, and then a table.."
All this walking on eggshells was entirely necessary. ANY part of that where they did not clarify would be taken out of context completely.
Yes it was necessary you go these pc people ready to piece and cancel and start a lynching.
SAD!
Absolutely true.
Thanks to libtards.
@@Ryo-xx1lm Exactly the more they dilute the conversations and make everything seem sensitive to others. The more they will kill our knowledge and our attempt at understanding history and before you know it the history that is trying to be taught will end up repeating itself.
Anyone who claims to be a historian and thinks the Nazis fought WW2 for racial reasons is an idiot. It's like people that think the Civil war was about fighting slavery. These are small aspects of the overall reasons for the war.
The war was fought with the intent to secure lebenrausn for the German race, as Hitler deemed Germany was too small for the German people. He also saw slavs as lesser value humans who needed to be enslaved and exterminated.
How the fuck is that not racially motivated?
My girlfriend gets so pissed when she's upset about something and tells me what it is only for me to respond with "so just to make sure I understand, you're upset with ____"
To me I'm doing what they're doing, I'm clarifying to attempt to remove the possibility of miscommunication. She says if I'm listening I shouldn't need to repeat it.
Bitches find any reason to undermine you. A good woman would be like "wow he's actually trying"
"Imagine if Hitler was a chimpanzee, those jews would have been obliterated overnight" - Joe Rogan, at some universe parallel to ours
Not on this podcast but I'm pretty positive that he's came to that conclusion at some point in this present universe
Jamie, pull up pictures of killer Chimpanzees. (20 seconds later) Imagine being at work in Warsaw and having those claws and teeth coming at you?!’
Hahaha
He even said something like "they'd rip your face off fuck your ass"
It's their debate that's literally why Peterson and Weinstein were there
The fact that you aren't allowed to have these sort of discussions on mainstream media outlets is exactly why alternative media is winning (and, I might add, superior).
Alternative media outlets are literally preserving truth by upholding free speech. If you assume that free speech is necessary to a well functioning open society, then preserving the integrity of platforms such as as TH-cam is of utmost societal importance.
I feel that alternative media has always been won/been around. Theres NEVER and never will be a time where main stream media is open, transparent, honest and willing to discuss so called "black market conversation"
Mainstream media is just here to try to keep the masses at ease, not respond to all the real bullshit that's going on in the world and just do population control. U want people to work 40 hours, make enough to take a girl u wanna fuck out for dinner maybe 1 vacation a year, and a apartment/house with little debt as possible.
In the past 10.years alternative news sources are at its peak, and thriving because of the internet.
Even for the right wing u have crowder, Shapiro, Rubin, etc.....so alternative is for any ideology, any philosophy. ...
Even now mainstream putting their news clips on our main page.....look at pakman recent video about this, losing tens of millions of views a month while CNN getting more views now all because TH-cam is distorting people.
.I always had a conspiracy theory, one came true "the advertising and putting all mainstream news clips on the very front or top recommendations on all 300 million Americans watching TH-cam.
Now my final one is TH-cam Gunn be like cable TV.
At first everything is free, u get channels, alternative and mainstream alike all participating which drives up viewership. Than comes along the hotspresd of millions of new channels. Like comedy central doing real real dirty and alternative jokes to having history channel etc. TH-cam has all of it now. Which is the start of the addiction.
Now since people are addicted to TH-cam (mean that in a analogy not actual chemical addiction) just like sports on cable back in the 70's pretty much all free to view.
TH-cam years back did the "pay 5$ a month and watch TH-cam created shit"
I GUARENTEE once us millenials become parents Nd have mortgages there going to make everyone pay for it thus creating cable TV but in the internet point of view. Only gunna be mainstream news, as we see alternatives losing all revenue. TH-cam will become strictly mainstream and for the mainstream.
(Besides few anomalies like anything else like JRE, comedy guys, even people like crowder and TYT may stay since they have some.power)
But once TH-cam becomes 100% mainstream. And a paid service.
You will get another unexpected, newly invented service just how TH-cam came about and the birth of Facebook. There will be some entrepreneur who creates some awsome service that alternative media, perspective and honest journalism will flock too and compete against the mainstream media .
We had this for newspapers via magazines and other papers who produced awsome alternative, than cableTV, now its internet age so yea. Alternative will never replace mainstream but alternative will always compete and fight against power
mr. JDP P Wouldn’t TH-cam already be considered mainstream? I’m pretty sure it’s the 2nd most used search engine after google, and most news outlets/channels have TH-cam channels.
You're absolutely right, internet platforms must be preserved and protected from the censorship and biasedness of mainstream journalism, the problem is that the companies that manage these platforms are often biased themselves, and can manipulate invisible algorithms in order to avoid too much opposition to their agenda
It is "winning" in views because it is more accessible now and offers detailed stuff about very specific areas of x and y. Just like Wikipedia isn't popular because it is exclusively free or not allowed elsewhere, but because it simply has something for everybody to feed on. Ditto for TH-cam.
24 "news" channels are about entertainment. You get a jerk host, two jerk guests and have them yell at each other for ten minutes. A couple commercial breaks and move on to the next segment.
The problem isn't the networks, it's the people. People are mostly morons that don't want to spend 3 hours watching an intellectual conversion. They want to be entertained and that's what modern news gives them.
Anyone here know if the events during WW2 at Dresden have ever been covered @JREClips ?
Say what you will, but that Hugo Boss drip was 🔥
Let’s get a Jordan Peterson and Alex Jones Episode and see what happens
Ian770 that would be incredible
Lawful good vs. chaotic neutral 🤔
That’s a crazy suggestion, I love it
Peterson is too smart for Jones...
@@fireengine77 Peterson is specialized and smarter in many areas compared to a vast majority of people, AND arguably synthesizes on those topics, revealing wisdom in remarkably unique ways. But one of the biggest parts in being wise and competent, is being able to talk with anyone or interact with anyone on the matter. The more you can simplify, the better you understand and the more accessible it is.
When the 2 smart kids in class get different answers.
And the gym teacher is subbing in 😂
There are zero smart kids on this class
@@MrShanester117 why ?
Just curious,not a fan of any of em except Joe maybe
@@MrShanester117 lmao stupid is as stupid does bro
Lmfao
People think monsters should not be 'respected' by today's definition but there is a difference between honor and respect. Many historical monsters are easy to disrespect, willy nilly angry, evil purely emotional characters. The few monsters who deserve respect are the most dangerous of all. They get their evil done and they do it well. This is why we must be careful to be honorable and look for honor in others more than we look for respect in ourselves or others.
I miss the hello freak bitches intro 😂 what a intro 😂
This is actually the best intro to everything in existence: Soooo ... We haven't talked about Hitler yet.
At least with Joe it's not a trap lol
Eventually you end up talking about Hitler with the boys. 😆
Why is this thus? And what is the reason for this thusness?
Remember Peterson's own teachings: you can't learn anything new from people who already completely agree with you. So many youtube comments going on being confrontational about Weinstein while Peterson himself is sitting here absorbing what Weinstein says and finding how the different perspective offers new insights into his own. If you want to support Peterson you should focus on acting out his advice rather than hating on people that Peterson himself sits there, politely listens to, and learns from.
You can't learn anything from an uneducated moron who is constantly making things up and pulling trivial wrong claims out of his arse like Jordan Peterson does. You need ten hours of research for every half hour of his 'lectures' only to find out, none of his claims is true.
comment wins the Internet
This is very well put
Hans-Joachim Bierwirth If it is a fact he makes things up, instead of you saying he is a moron you should dispute with FACTS. Because what you are doing is exactly the same. And that is the problem Jacob Davis puts forth also: People who refuse to open a dialogue and just point to others as the problem without offering a counter argument based on facts. How can people expect to convince others if all they are saying is "because he is a moron" or the Eddy Bravo favourite conversation ender: 'Look into it" You might disagree with Peterson, but he is not uneducated. Or do you think Harvard and later the University of Toronto did not check his credentials when they hired him?
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 in fact you can learn from an uneducated moron - not that I'm saying Jordan Peterson is uneducated because i think the mere fact that he lectures at all points to him being quite educated actually - but you can even learn from listening to a childs perspective . If you want to bring up other things hes talked about which you seem to think are false on a video that has nothing to do with either of his 'false points' you speak of, it is more telling that you are in need of your own self reflection than anything else. If you think he is uneducated, in which way did this conversation prompt such a response from you? He listened very attentively, made sure to point out and clarify many aspects of each point of view. These are all very essential to having meaningful discussions about ideas.
Dunno how they gotta outta that room with all the eggshells 😆
I'd like to see Dennis Wise on your show.
When I used to think about what college was going to be like, I thought my professors would be like Mr. Peterson and Mr. Weinstein. Boy was I wrong--I would've loved to have either one of these guys as an instuctor.
Tell me about it as part of mine I had to do economics, I was told trumps economic policies were stupid even tho they completely boosted the economy. Just tells me not all those guys are as smart as we think
I had a world war 2 vet that backpacked across Europe after the war was over, he drove an old beat up Volkswagen bug yellow w/ a bandaid on the hood.. one of the most interesting men I’ve encountered
What college did you go to? I went to San Francisco State University for philosophy, and all of my professors were top notch.
@@Rubberbandfan1 Not saying that all my professors where not top notch, few were acceptable, although, most of them certainly did not aspire to be so. What I was commenting on had to do with my professors lack of passion for their craft. For perspective this was in the early to mid 90's, I am sure academia is different now. I did not experience the passions or preciseness of Peterson or Weinstein, I would have treasured it though. To answer your question UNO, UK, Mechanical Eng----Never spoke with any one who thought ALL of their professors were "top notch", interesting
That’s the masters and PhD program, not undergrad.
I'm starting to think Bret just somehow lost his ability to raise his voice... This dude is like a trained monk or something
Raphaël Paillot
Where did you hear it? Lol that sounds really funny.
@@raphpaillot you can't say true story after proclaiming it's a rumor first
@@raphpaillot it's confirmed
@@raphpaillot good one😂
I love how careful they were being. I wish we could have people in office be this careful and thoughtful and intentional with their through/intellect.
Then stop supporting shitheads like Rogan who amplify Trump chuds and continuosly repeat spurrious lies about Biden.
Fucking snowflake
Never seen Rogan so quiet. But seriously, I love the way Brett Weinstein speaks, it’s so clear. And of course, Peterson is Peterson. Great discussion with substance.