6 Things I HATE About My 5.0 Coyote Swap!
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- Here are the 6 things I hate about my coyote swapped mustang!
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I'm glad you're actually talking about the pitfalls of the swap rather than saying, "I hate it because my face hurts from smiling too much." It really helps people like us who are digging into that
The engine sound on the coyote sucks. It doesn't sound like the 5.0 H0.
I am actually jealous because you own the best Mustang, what Ford should have done from the factory. Classic styling and modern power.
Classic?? Not even classy
Bruh you like mustangs too ?! I saw you on one of those riot videos speaking truth . Much love bro
@@waynew.cheney2588 Thanks.
@@waynew.cheney2588 inn,,youknowknowbbb
Foxbody is a classic
Sounds like a piss-poor swap job really.
I was thinking the same.
Thats what I thought
Ima come out with it done properly
What was wrong with ut
Agreed
AC is mandatory when I live in Lake Havasu where it can hit 115° regulaly.
So do any of your gauges work now? Looking to do a Gen 2 swap on my 2006.
Did you put new spark plugs in it? Have you cleaned the throttle body? When did you last change the fuel filter on it? Weird for it to be bogging out a little at first.
I am doing the S197 (2007) and it has the 3650 stock. The 2013 Gen 1 I got came with the MT82, the tail shaft flange to driveshaft is different from the 3650, therefore the driveshaft will not fit and from my understanding the drive shafts are different lengths. I saw that you mention you reused your transmission, was it a 3650 or an MT82? What clutch did you go with? I know this is an old video, but have you heard of and options for the trans issue? Thanks.
You can do a roots supercharger, there are 2 nipples on the timing cover that would need to be removed for the belt routing. Also, if you want to, you can through some Boss cams in there. If memory serves me right, it is the intake cam that is different on the Boss and the exhaust cam is shared with the GT. Also, I believe, as you said, you have more room for growth if you decide to boost the engine later on as the Boss internals were the same internals used on the F-150. At least, after the Gen 2 coyote was released, the part numbers for the Boss rodswere revised and were called F-150 rods. You should be good up to 825 with that motor compared to the GT which is something in the 650 range if memory serves me right. Its been probably 5 years since I built my All Motor Boss, so the details may be slightly off, but at least it would give you a nice starting point for some research.
after a swap do u have problems in long run and does the insurance cover incase of accident?>
All the Gremlins in the swap...sigh... Keep on troubleshooting! Thanks for sharing Jonathon!
You can use 15-17 cams but you would also need the phasers, chains and sprocket and get a flash on the control pack bro, talk to lund or mike at mpt, i know they have stock pcm control pack tunes to be able to flash them, he flashed my oem pcm with a control pack tune to disable pats
My new edge with a fore full system doesn’t need to prime lol, what fuel system you have? All pbh parts
Ok let me see the best choice is a gen2 coyote swap with mt82 or T56 on it connected to the control pack that comes from the Ford performance racing and with updates on the fuel system and the AC unit directly with no overthinking sounds good
If you get a one way check valve on the feed side for the fuel system no more of priming the system I had to so it on my car.
Did you ever figure out the AC? Many folks claim that is an issue? Getting ready to start my own swap.
What adapters will I need too keep my 5 speed automatic if possible
Vmp makes roots superchargers for the f150s, never seen anything about having to change the timing cover... but it may sit too high for factory mustang hood
What are your wheel and tire size?
Im planning my own 3v 5.0 swap im very excited.
Me and you both my brothA I got a 2006 GT.. I had a 2007 v6 but I wrecked it and ended up sailing it NOW I got a 2006 GT and now I'm trying to get the GEN 2 coyote is the 2015 through 2017.. The gen 3 to expensive...
Dude in the video has the gen1 coyote swap
Starts 2:23
One of the meanest looking modern mustangs with power plant it deserves
Wanting to swap out my rear gears how do you like those 410s? I’m kinda stuck between those and 373s. Afraid the 410s will be to much on the highway driving and constantly changing gears in the city. Mines a daily driven 3v. What’s your thoughts.
Terry The one yeah 4.10s are kinda high for a daily driver, i am going down to 3.73. They seem to be the overall best ratio
Man I appreciate your reply back and thanks for making up my mind for me. Love the videos. Have a blessed day.
Man stop fucking crying about your car!!!
Larry Pruitt He is not crying. He is informing us of the cons of a very expensive 5.0 swap.
what kinda exhaust you have? it sounds amazing
coyote_505 thanks, it is longtubes, x pipe, corsa extremes
I really love your mustang so much😉
Your running around in florida with no ac 😲
would have been nice to know what car you put it in
Why does the fuel system purge after shutdown?
probably too late to ask but where’s that diffuser from?
I have a f150 what exhaust u using
Good info 👍
just a question did you do any homework before doing the swap
The Gen 1 F150 intake cams stop making power after 6200-6500, so unless you plan on putting mustang cams in it, that 2018 intake manifold is actually costing you power. Your only options are used mustang intake cams, L&M intake only set, or Comp Cams. MMR also makes cams for gen 1 as well. The exhaust cams on the gen 1 F150 coyote are the same as the Mustang intake cams.
With the right cams, the 18 manifold is a close second after the Cobra Jet, but without the $2,000+ price tag. It will make power up to 8000 RPM just like the CJ
Are you running an X pipe ?
I would like to swap a ford engine in my 69 mustang fastback.. I am looking into reliable mustang engines with stick shift.. any recomendation/suggestions?
I've heard the 351w from the 69 are actually really tuff and reliable up to 700hp with some internal upgrades. I'm actually debating on trading my 03 h2 for a 69 but not many people have them near me and most of the ones I find are either rusted to hell or want an arm and leg 🤣
@@Driftprodigy01 I got to pick an engine and don't want to spend in opening/ upgrading it . Thus, thinking of the coyote engine..
@@thaieralawadh2223 true but in order to fit the coyote you'll need a new front end to delete the shock towers and create new trans tunnel depending on the trans u use which would be atleast be around 4k plus the coyote and trans is about 6k-8k used then all the other stuff electronics and whatnot to get it running your looking at atleast 15k and thats doing everything yourself... for that u can buy a built crate motor specific to your car and make 600hp all motor and be ready for boost for more power plug and play of course you'll still need to upgrade fuel system and some wiring but thats something you'll need even if u go 5.0
I find your swap pretty interesting.
Most of your minor qualms come from the way you chose to execute your swap.
I Coyote swapped an '06 V6 car from a wrecked 2012 GT but used the entire car. The swap involved swapping all of the wiring, dash, door panels, power window motors, door latches, windshield washer motors, fuel tank and fuel lines, brake lines, and everything. It's basically a 2012 with 2006 body panels.
Using this method is a bit more labor intensive, but yields a pretty polished result with a few minor exceptions. Those being, figuring out how you want to mount your exhaust (like if you use early or late S197, since the mounting points are a little different), the e-brake handles are in different places so you have to deal with it or swap it, and at least in my case, the rear had to be swapped to an 8.8".
Either way though, you swap is super cool and very clean. Nice work!
The A/C probably doesn't have freon. With heat, as long as the motor is hot the heater will always work
I did a bbf swap on my 05 it's a beast.... A lot of work though
@Elliott Feaster probable a 429/460 - that's the popular bbf swap.
“Belt driven turbo” might work. What do you think spins a roots blower?
That’s called a centrifugal supercharger. There’s no such thing as belt driven turbos
@@brandonerwin3019 you obviously didn’t watch the video
There is a such thing as a belt driven turbo but it requires extensive modification to make it work and it's not worth the time or money. And clearly a roots blower is belt driven and spun by the crankshaft
If you have a strong, healthy 4.6 3V engine there's absolutely no point in doing a Coyote swap. Just adding a CAI, CMDPs, UDPs, LT headers/midpipe, 127200 Stage 2 NSR cams, and tune will get you to ~350rwhp which is only ~20rwhp short of a stock '11-'14 Coyote 5.0. It'll cost you ~$3,500 in parts which is a lot less than the $10,000+ parts cost of a Mustang Coyote swap.
The Gen 2 S550 Coyote engine from '15-'17 is currently the best for a swap as it already has the uprated heads/cams, forged crank, and forged connecting rods from the Boss 302. This is a parts list that I've drafted for a '15-'17 S550 Coyote swap into an '05-'10 GT with a TR3650 manual transmission:
• Used ‘15-‘17 GT engine
• Control Pack: M-6017-504V ‘15-‘17 GT w/ Manual Transmission
• PBH N/A Coyote Swap Accessory Drive bracket kit: COY-ENG-BRKT
• PBH '11+ Coyote Alternator kit: SWAP-ALT-SC (if not included with engine)
• PBH Dakota Digital Speedometer Signal Interface: PCP-SPEEDO
• PBH Coyote Swap Fuel System: PBH-FSS197
• ’11-’14 GT Kooks 1-3/4" Long tube Headers & Midpipe
• ’11-’14 GT Catbacks (need to swap hangers from '05-'10 GT)
• ’11-’14 GT Right Hand Heater Hose: BR3Z18472B (if not included with engine)
• ’11-’14 GT Left Hand Heater Hose: BR3Z18472D (if not included with engine)
• ’11-’14 GT Upper Radiator Hose: BR3Z8260BA
• '11-'14 GT Lower Radiator Hose: KM-5136
• Ford Performance Roller Pilot Bearing: M-7600-B
The accessory drive bracket kit will allow you to retain the existing '05-'10 PS pump & AC compressor in their stock locations.
What's the CMDPS
Ive come to the same conclusion. My gt/cs only has 50k mi. on her. So the cost and issues doesnt make any sense.
Dino Dino Bambino What’s the price of all those parts? Thx
@@Phantom096 About $10,500.
@@ernestonavarro1906 CMDPs = Charge motion delete plates
would ot have been netter to build and boost the 3 valve
Cheaper for sure.
You screwed up somewhere on your fuel system if you have to let it prime. I have 4 swaps I've done. That's how I know
exactly right. i am betting the regulator is the problem here. it might be the wrong regulator, or it might be a bad regulator. either wya get the right one for the system and that problem should be solved.
If done with factory coyote pcm, you don’t need a return system
You west coast?
Driving my swap since ‘12, never had to wait to pull out the garage. If it bogging, something is wrong
I was always taught to let electric fuel pumps prime for a second before starting
They make a bracket to keep factory ac
you should get a china choo choo spoolie boy ;)
sounds like the check valve in the fuel pump is bad
Hey….I love coyote swap but you need the og fuel pump & lines with aftermarket injectors😅 if I’m wrong correct me lol & if not that make sure the swap is complete with the fuel tank 😅
If you're loosing fuel rail pressure in between starts, you've got a bad FPR.
Idk why the fuel system is like that, being return style shouldn’t make a difference, something weird with the pump or something
I like it 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Sounds normal, a warm up, the one way check valve, (o2's run in open loop until temp is reached)
You think this is bad, try owning a p.o s. Kia (or tbi 350) 😆
Informative
George is cold?
Try Michigan 😂
Losing hope with the 3V 4.6L...Seems like there should be a more options to get modern power other than doing a Coyote Swap. $10-12k Sheesh!
Boost
Makes me realize why imports are more popular than domestics these days
@@THEWATER3UCKET frr
Salvage action, buy a smashed car/truck for $2,500. When your done scrap/sell off whats left. Work smarter not harder.
I have a 4.6 with 90000 mile I have cam and a procharger making 500 hp and 468TQ tans great and will out run my 2014 GT
Where did you get the engine so cheap? I’m being quoted 8,500$ just for labor alone wtf. I knew was bs, but can’t find anything cheaper
MILLENIALL GT junkyard coyotes. Usually those cars ended up getting into accidents but if the car didn't get hit in the front end the motor would stay good.
Should have always used phb parts period, never do a swap with out there parts period, if you want a proper swap go with the full power by hour kit
how do you drive under a bridge and not smash the throttle?😯😯 the self control you shown, lol
You should warm up your car every time anyway😂😂
Love this guy hes really honest and chill. I have a 3v and would love to coyote swap.....
s197 3v best lookin mustang imo if only it had come with coyote stock
@@greyhatchgamecock new edge gang
You could of bought a built short block and a turbo kit for the same amount of money you have in there...
wiring, accessories, exhaust.. you have 0 clue what youre talking about lol
Sounds like you should have just went LS from the beginning I've got an 05 V6 5 speed that I will LS just so much cheaper to do all of that then going ford
Then buy a camaro. What you really mean is your a chevy guy but they are so fkn ugly you can't even bring yourself to drive one.
Honestly if I swapped my 3v out I want the 11-13 gt00 5.8 that motor is just fuckin ridicoulous but then it would be a race only car.
All of this could have been prevented if done your research... and roots superchargers are belt driven too lol just a different style of belt
Research is the key. When you start to think it isn't, you need to do more research.
Your car is not suppose to stall like that buddy..you might wanna upgrade to a 5.0coyote gen 2
How many videos about hating the mustang are you going to make
Yeah they are played out son.
.... sounds like a list u screwed up due to lack of knowledge... only thing that sounds like a pain is the cluster. in the effort to keep the stock tack...
Well when you do an engine swap it's not all just gonna be compatible duh bro lol
😂😂
Tunes upgraded fuel pump possibly transmission
If you are looking to upgrade the 4.6 3 valve the best in my opinion is the Procharger or centrifugal style.
Second Roush twin screw or VMP. Still plenty of support from Roush and VMP for these cars.
Third twin or single turbo. The bad added weight from plumbing and high maintenance of turbo system and parts.
The rest have moved on to the 5.0 and no longer support these engines.
Didn’t this car come with a Coyote or did he have a V6?
Nevermind it was an older 4.6 Mooostang
Love my 3V and the way it sounds !!!
Same. I don't care about having the most power. I'm not racing you because I'm not trying to get arrested nor lose my career. But I can still be happy with my boltons because the car is still quick and super aggressive. After headers, Cai, exhaust, and tune + aero mods, the car turns heads and feels good driving. That's all that matters. Plus, the 3V, esp when modded sounds so aggressive that it scares other cars from even lining up with you at a stoplight
@@apathy11303 lemme see some vids man
All that money & work & the car is probably worth no more than a beat V6.
Piss poor install
LS swap in mustang=take car put into trash LOL. keep a Ford a Ford and a chevy a chevy.
The compression ratio difference is .5 lol you won’t feel that
The trigger worked, I firmly believe in staying with same car mfger engines
The coyote is made by the same company as the original engine that came in the car.
My car is a return fuel system.i dont have to let it prime..
there's a special place in hell for people who put ls's in mustangs
Your 3v sounds weird 😋
I'm selling my 3v so I can get into a 13-14 5.0
nice man!
I got the 3v over the 5.0 2011-2014 due to the fact The manuals on those years are trash and didn’t want a automatic plus I’m cool with the power the 3v has since I don’t plan on doing crazy racing just daily driving and fun but if I planned on racing then yeah 5.0 all the way
There's only one thing don't like about your mustang... .... the rims, I think black 5 or 6 star alloys look better, peace 😶
Junior Rika Umaki nah it needs some welds
Skyler Mummert he’s not making a lot of power for welds
With (much) more research BEFORE starting/committing, you could have found answers to all of those problems. Furthermore, I see guys wanting to do a F150 coyote swap all the time. That's just a bad idea from the start because THEN you have to replace the cams, intake, injectors and throttle body just to make it a "mustang" engine. Get the right engine up front. Period. It will cost less down the road.
I've been a Mustang guy since the early 70's. Back in the day, we could swap drive trains between two cars and drive each vehicle away in less than eight hours. No computers to mess with, and none of the "integrated" systems got in the way.
I converted my 2012 V6/automatic to a blown 427 Windsor/Tremec 6-spd. Not to put too fine a point on it, but It was f*ckin expensive. I lost some OEM stuff in the process, but I don't care, and I knew it was going to happen, because I researched for two years before I bought the first part.
My best advice is that once you commit to the swap, don't start making a list of shit you hate about it. That's the biggest enthusiasm killer I can think of. At that point, you may as well just have bought a Coyote car to begin with. I can commiserate, but you knew the job was dangerous when you started. :)
Should have run an LS motor......just saying lol. Jk bro. I'm not a huge Ford fan, but I do love your mustang
Save your money and get a Boss 9 engine from Jon Kaase.
Chris Boyer 20k yeah okay 😂
It’s not from a stang
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Its not a new edge lol
I mean you could have used dislike instead of hate but its ok.
Why would you spend the money to swap a 4.6 model when you can just buy the 5.0 model for the same price if not less lmao
Tacosalad Master facts 💀💀💀 big waste of money
4.6 are alot cheaper then 5.0 and 4.6 are all over the place then 5.0s but 5.0 are so much better in power and reliability then 4.6s
Alfonso Salgado 4.6 is a lighter car than any 5.0 with all the added technology.
The price of doing the swap right is insane. I agree cheaper to get into a newer Mustang.
Because he actually owns his car your not going to find a 5.0 for 10k unless it has extremely high mileage
Maybe because he fucking wanted to?
Last bitch 🤟🏾
Deez nutssss gotteeeee hahaha
Yo sell it to me 😥😥
U found irritating the fact that u cant put gen 2 cams? Lol why you triggered by that?
SuperJosereyna not really irritated, more like I wish I had the opportunity to do it lol
@@Johnathanharder so if you put the control pack from a gen 2 would it work then? surely it is possible to do ,or just get aftermarket cams that are better i suppose
He wanted to get the gen 2 cam "because I dont know " is what he said. He doesn't even know the difference so hes "triggered" by it..
@@mitchellreece9820 it triggers me not be able to fly
I was about to say u is a disgrace I'm glad u was joking
2:44 you welcome
Brenspeed coyote swapped a 6 cylinder mustang without any problems at all.
No with a normal car you are supposed to turn the key to let the fuel system prime. You are not supposed to just turn the key 🙄😒 please kid learn about vehicles. There is so much more you needed to do and learn
Boo fucking hoo. You've got a badass car dude. All your comments are just nitpicking.
stopped watching after the deez nuts joke in 2019
First
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I almost gave you a thumbs down, ill let you guess why
Stopped watching after the first complaint...give me a fucking break....