CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Introduction to the Gospel 0:38 - Understanding the Gospel 2:39 - Apostle Paul's Gospel Interpretation 4:38 - Concept of the Everlasting Gospel 10:51 - Importance of the Old Landmarks 13:01 - Permanence of the True Gospel
Thank you for this! God has used you to share the truth. I asked three people I know from the SDA Church what the gospel is, and two out of the three told me the Adventist teaching of the everlasting gospel. This was a rude awakening for me. The SDA Church does not teach the true gospel of Jesus Christ. I now have a responsibility to share the truth and to also share the true Sabbath with the people I love.
This is not true every lasting gospel is not only salvation of man even the given of eternal life to human kind..... don't judge the whole by just one or two people mouth all, adventist not understand what is Adventism ... Read Revelation 12:18
The Seventh-Day Adventist Church teaches a gospel that differs in significant ways from the historic, biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. While they claim to proclaim the "everlasting gospel" of Revelation 14:6, their message actually emphasizes works-based salvation, obedience to the law, and adherence to Adventist doctrines as the means of securing one's place in God's kingdom. This stands in stark contrast to the biblical Gospel, which declares that salvation is a free gift of grace, received by faith alone in Christ alone. The "good news" of the Gospel is not about human effort or religious observances, but about the finished work of Christ on the cross, who paid the full penalty for sin and offers eternal life to all who believe in Him.
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. If you love me keep my commandments. Does faith invalidate the law ? GOD forbid.Be born of the SPIRIT. The law is Spiritual.
It is good to argue that Revelation was written around 60AD and was talking about the destruction of the Temple in 70AD. This pulls the rug out from SDAs and JWs who read Revelation as taking place centuries after the Apostles.
I know the commandments of God, and it is not Sabbath keeping of the Jews. The Adventists and their like have no idea what the commandments of God are for Christians. I will let God commend me, I will not commend myself, as the Pharisees do. That's what you do when you are Christian, unlike the Pharisees. *There is not one commandment from Christ or his apostles to keep the Sabbath of the Jews.* Count the number of times the scripture and Christ *commands us* to love one another by *commandment* ! *NOT ONCE DOES CHRIST OR ANY OF THE APOSTLES COMMAND SABBATH KEEPING.* And, while the scripture is explicit for the commandment of Christ to love the Church, the WORK of Adventism is to *persecute and hatemonger the very Church and brethren Christ is commanding you to love* ! Here's your *"Test commandment"* , not Sabbath keeping like the Pharisees but to love and obey Christ's commandments to the Church! John 13:34 *A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.* John 13:35 By THIS (SIGN) *shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.* John 15:12 *This is MY commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.* John 15:17 These things *I command you, that ye love one another.* Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, *but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED the law.* Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, *but by love serve one another.* Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, *forbearing one another in love;* 1 Thessalonians 3:12 And the Lord make you to increase and *abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:* 1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for *ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.* Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto *unfeigned love of the brethren, *see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:* 1 Peter 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, *having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:* 1 John 3:11 *For THIS IS THE MESSAGE hat ye heard from the beginning, *that we should love one another.* 1 John 3:23 *And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave US COMMANDMENT.* 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let US love one another: for love is of God; and *every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.* (NOT SABBATH KEEPING) 1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved US, *we ought also to love one another.* 1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. *If we love one another, God dwelleth in US, and his love is perfected in us.* 2 John 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though* I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.* > I DOUBT ONE OF YOU WILL OBEY *"HIS COMMANDMENTS"* TO LOVE THE CHURCH AND THE BRETHREN. Because, the Sabbath keepers have taught you to hate the Brethren and the Church. Christ commandment is that you love the church and the brother in at the church! And he that does not keep that commandment is a liar and the truth is not in him. Christ commanded all Christians to obey the church and to hear with the church teachers not pick up the Bible and make your own beliefs as the Adventist and thousands of other churches have done. And therefore the Adventist despise persecute and hate the church in defiance of Christ commandment! *Ellen G. White and the Adventists have taught their followers to persecute and hate the Church Christ instituted, not LOVE IT AND THE BRETHREN*
@AnsweringAdventism I went through this fortunately quite short video as I said I would earlier in my comment on the Community Tab of your channel. As far as the Gospel of Jesus Christ that you have listed goes, I can assure you that Seventh-day Adventists believe all of those things completely and fully with the possible exception of where you infer without quite saying it in your Mat 5:17 quote that Jesus "cancelled" or "destroyed" or "did away with" the Law or the Prophets. We certainly and absolutely do believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law exactly as it says in Mat 5:17. But we also believe in verse 16, 18 & 19 too. However, what you have listed there is a very meager subset of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It hardly does the title justice at all. Seventh-day Adventists actually believe that the Gospel of Jesus Christ begins with Genesis 1:1 and ends at Revelation 22:21. You see, this is where Adventists differ from the modern so-called "Christian" world. We believe very much in 2 Tim 3:16,17 which no other church believes. Paul is an amazing writer and we have found it such a fruitful study to go through his works which comprise the majority of the New Testament. Now, I suspect that you will take issue with my statement on 2 Tim 3:16,17. Many people do, and that is because they simply have forgotten what Paul wrote there in verse 16. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness," Oh yes, the modern churches claim to keep the instruction of Paul to Timothy. In fact, I often see them in posters on the inside walls of these churches whenever I visit them there. But sadly, they don't even read it with understanding. The problem? *All* Scripture. It's not just the New Testament as is so often a favorite subject of churches that title themselves "New Testament Christians" and so on. Paul didn't say New Testament. Paul said *All* Scripture, and that is what they definitely do not do. In fact any Christian who reads that verse and takes just a few seconds to really really think about it realise that what Paul wrote was actually this: *All* of the *Old* *Testament* is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine Oh yeah, that's *exactly* what Paul meant when he wrote those words. There was no New Testament in existence at that time. In fact, Paul would probably have fallen out of his chair if you were to have told him that the actual letter he wrote those words in, would one day be part of the Bible. To Paul, when he wrote those words, the word *Scripture* referred only to the *Old* *Testament* . See the problem? Paul says the Old Testament is "for doctrine". Paul brought no new doctrine to the Gentiles or to the Hebrews. Jesus said these words long ago on the road to Emmaus, and He is saying them them to you and to me again right now. "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself. Do not be someone to whom Jesus says "O foolish one", that would be a terrible thing to hear. Rather, go to the prophets, go to Moses, go to Exodus 20:8-11. There you of course will find the Sabbath commandment, and Jesus said " *all* that the prophets have spoken!" Not me, not you, not any other human being has the right to enter into judgement on the Bible and say " *some* that the prophets have spoken". I will take this, but this I reject, this doesn't apply to me, I will carve this piece out of the Bible and claim that it doesn't apply to us anymore. No way! No way at all! *All* Scripture is good for Doctrine. And of all the churches in this world, the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the one single glaring exception of a church that accepts the *entire* Bible as one beautiful and composite whole. We do not cut and paste. We don't say "Oh, Jesus was talking to a Jew so I can ignore this" or "Jesus cancelled the law" when Jesus so clearly and plainly says even the smallest dot or least stroke of the pen will in *no wise* pass from the Law, not as long as Heaven and Earth still exist. Heaven will exist through eternity, and so will the Law, and in that time it will be written on our hearts. Seventh-day Adventism is a religion that will open your eyes to the amazing and perfect Word of God and show that the Bible is complete and is one indivisible glorious whole and that the Bible, and Only the Bible, and especially the Entire Bible is the one and only complete guide to Salvation. And that is why your Gospel of Jesus Christ, which we believe in completely, is good, but not really good enough to describe the Gospel of my Lord and my God Jesus Christ. It has to be the living Word of God, all of it, as said so clearly by both Jesus and Paul, every last piece of it. *All* Scripture. That is the Everlasting Gospel. There is no other.
Psalms 111 : 7,8, 10. The only thing God did with His Hands on this planet was to form man from the dust of the earth and that is mention in scripture. And that He wrote down the Ten Commandments. Everything else was done simply by Him voice.
No SDA denies the suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus as the only mean of our salvation. We can only justify through the life of Jesus but how long does that justification last? How does judgment come into the picture of Justification? How are these two related? Is there any possibility of being sin again? Where does the Holy Spirit come into the picture of Salvation? How can we connect the idea of Salvation, judgment, and sin? While we appreciate and thank God for the life of Jesus that pave our way unto salvation and justifies someone's life who accepts Jesus, we allow the Holy Spirit to seal us until the day of redemption as in Eph 4:30. This is sanctification. This is because when we reject Him, we simply live a sinful life again. So how do we realize that we live in sin? It is the ten commandments of God. This is how the Bible defines sin, by transgressing God's Law.
The gospel isn’t the investigative judgement, young earth creationism, the seventh day sabbath, the health message, leaving Protestant churches, etc. Your comment has nothing to do with the topic of this video or series. Which is very simple. What the SDA Church calls the “everlasting gospel” is not the gospel. It’s a different message. A false gospel that’s cursed by God because they have added to the gospel message, altering it, just like the judaizers in Galatia did (Galatians 1:6-9).
Great job young man I'm glad I happened to find you I know a number of Adventist and people who are interested in it that need to hear your message. I will certainly share.
lF God gave up HIS promises to the remnant of Israel --- HE would HAVE to give up on us---- we ARE no better. It's ALL to God's absolute sovereignty and GLORY
I love what you are doing here. I am not in the SDA nor have i ever been a member. Like yourself i am a member of a PCA church. I am burdened for the sda church and members. I first learned about the false teaching of the sda via the Cultish TH-cam series on the sda and ellen white.
I am reading this on a beautiful Sabbath day, I just want to say the truth will set you free. May God richly bless and sanctify you today as he had promised. Blessed Sabbath. Shalom.
@@nathancordova4618 I've watched several of their videos. They are not as indepth into things like Myles. They can't even explain the Trinity correctly from a traditional Orthodox Christian perspective. They thought they were expressing it from that perspective but they weren't.
Great video, bro! I'm so thankful that you take the time to break down Adventist "truth." More proof that Ellen was a master manipulator who denied the clear Gospel of Jesus Christ and taught others to do and teach the same! (SMH 🤦🏾♀️) Moving on to the next video! 😁
Truth! "Master Manipulator" - I have also drawn that conclusion from reading her works...and yeah, her people have been taught well, turning and twisting the Gospel
I think both of you are a bit confused. The gospel is not what Christ does in you as you learn to "walk in the Spirit". The gospel is the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ plus nothing. By Christ's doing & dying "all men" have been justified unto eternal life. Faith cannot add to Christ's work; neither can works. Faith is simply receiving what Christ's has already accomplished in Himself. Yes, a born again person has a different mindset (heart), and yes he grows in grace, but he is never good enough to gain heaven by his works of faith. As Paul said, "all have sinned (past tense) and (in the present continuous tense) all "come short of the glory of God (His agape love)." Now, let's explore the gospel. Question: How did Christ legally save you from "under the curse of the law"? Note the word "legally"! The answer you give reveals the gospel you present. But, unlike you, I'm not going to condemn you because your gospel doesn't line up with "the gospel" as taught by the Apostle Paul. Remember, Christ takes people where they are at in their understanding and corrects through the holy spirit.
Bill Class. Please read Acts 13:42-44; 18:4. Jews AND Gentiles all came together on the Sabbath day. Making the 1st day holy and sanctified is an imagination ( they THINKto change Gods times and laws) of men. Gods law is eternal Psa 111:7-10. The other sabbathbdays in Col 2:16 were just a part of the temporal yearly addministration of the earthly sanctuary that finished at the cross when the veil was torn. These yearly removal Sabbaths served their purpose ,but Gods eternal Sabbath will be kept for an eternity Isa 66:22 23 and NEVER EVER changed
1 John 1 : 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: How can you know that you are in christ or not ?
i wonder if Myles thinks Limited Atonement was a restoration of truth about the gospel of salvation by bringing the truth about who Jesus died for came to the knowledge of the Saints?
What a goofy claim, Jamie. Limited atonement isn’t the gospel 🤦♂️ This is precisely the problem, you guys think the gospel is systematic theology when it isn’t. People don’t have to believe in definite atonement to be saved. The gospel is the “power of God to salvation for all that BELIEVE IT.”
I'm really lost tried to follow what u saying try to read the Bible and the Bible alone and u will find answers... It is important to read revelation not because u want to attack adventism but bcz u want to hear what God wants for you... I pray that God open our eyes so that we see and understand what he wants us to hear
@@CEBGRACE You said "The devil is full of Rage! He is is he? He is busy in the SDA camp to rage against Bible Christians since 1844. Seventh-day Adventism is a satanic religious cult. *RAGE AGAINST THE DYING GOSPEL LIGHT* Stop killing the Gospel. False gospel follower. When we speak the truth, we expose error, like a light shining in a dark place. The Word of God is often compared to a light. When one turns on a light, darkness is dispelled. So truth exposes error, trickery, craftiness, and deception. It calms and settles, guides and directs. Have a great day.
How can any person who claim to be a true follower of Jesus Christ accept a false Gospel other than the True Gospel of Jesus Christ as preached by Paul. Sadly though, SDA indeed is preaching "another" gospel.
My God! What a web of lies and deceit that EGW has spun and those who were blindly caught in that web continued spinning - to this day ensnaring baby Christians. I thank God for you, Myles, that you are among those who sought the truth and so you were guided by the Holy Spirit. Those who are steeped in following Adventism's false gospel will remain spiritually blinded until they, too, start seeking the truth. Pharoah's heart had been "hardened" for he had no intention of letting the Israelites go; A set of unbelieving Jews were spiritually blinded -and so Christ became a "stumbling block" to them because they didn't receive Him. And so the pattern follows with Adventism (among others) who believe a false gospel. Blessings to all those who have the Bible, ALONE, as their source 🙏🏾
SDA accuse Christians of being commandment breakers because we don't observe Saturday as a Sabbath yet they disobey Jesus commandment of spreading His Gospel(Matt 28:19-20)and obey EGW spreading her gospel =her visions inserted in Rev 14:6-14 worshipping Jesus on any day of the week we will not be cursed but spreading the false gospel SDA are cursed not once but twice over
Whats more they use pope Gregory (Gregorian) calendar to determine their Sabbath day. Where as at the time of Mosses the Hebrew calendar was used to determine the 7th day which was from new moon to new moon
@@roybuckle7576 Exactly, they use man's calendar and call Saturday a holy day SDA Yesterday 23th March the first Cresent of the Moon was sighted(1st day of the month) 7 days from there will fall on Thursday 30th March their sabbath will continue again to 6th April, 13 April that ends the moon cyle
The thing is SDA's are always preaching that they are the remnant church because they keep all the commandments, yet they only talk about the Sabbath and nothing else. In a nutshell it's either the Sabbath or Ellen G. White that they talk about and it's on constant repeat.
Not replacing or reinventing the gospel taught by Jesus & his Apostles: continuing the revival begun by the Reformers, and giving it its flavour designed for "the time of the end", as each previous generation had its unique message from God to give to the world. Peter's letter to the churches speaks of the "present truth" for his day, which all the Apostles were spreading. What is today's gospel emphasis, that the Bible presents? Also, historicist interpretation of prophecy was the teaching of the Reformers, so it is no strange thing: all prophetic symbols and chapters ofmthe Bible follow the timeline of history in its details as Dan 2 & 7 set the example for. As an illustration, that's why, with the first four seals of Rev 6 the four horses have their best meaning as the Christian era in four stages, from the initial, pure evangelism of the known world all the way till corrupt church leadership and the suffering it caused in the world, up till about the start of the 19th century. The last two seals of Rev 6 hint at the shortness of time since 1800 till Jesus indeed returns. Thus the 6th seal is complemented by the seventh seal, for all the angels will have left heaven with Jesus to come here, leaving half an hour of silence: when a prophetic day equals a year of real time, 30 minutes equals 7 days. After reaching the earth from heaven very rapidly, and then returning slowly over a seven day period, the saints all admiring Jesus and the angels, and noticing the galaxies as we go.
AND THEN THE HOLY SABBATH STAYS THE SAME FRIDAY AFTERNOON SUN DOWN TO SATURDAY AFTERNOON SUN DOWN I’m a KING JAMES BIBLE BELIEVER I SDB SEVEN DAYS BELIEVER AND I IT IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST I THINK YOU ARE BOTH WRONG IF YOU THINK IT’S SUNDAY IS THE HOLY SABBATH YES YOU WILL BE WRONG BUT IF YOU STILL THINK IT STARTS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON SUNDOWN THEN YOU FOLLOWING JESUS GOSPEL TELL ME JESUS NEVER CHANGES HIS GOSPEL KJV BIBLE WITH THE WORDS GODS LOVE TO YOU
Sin under the new testament is obeying the sinful nature of man which is summarized in Gal. 5:17-19. And, what a Christian should be is shown clearly in Gal. 5:22-24. Those of the law are still in the flesh, those of the Spirit walk in the Spirit, through faith and by the Grace of Christ. And by His Grace and the workings of the Spirit overcome the flesh, not by keeping law but by the power of the Holy Spirit. The entire intended righteousness of the body of the law is to be fulfilled in Christians (Rom 8:4) , not by doing the deeds of the law in the letter, but by the fruits of the Holy Spirit working in us. If you could overcome sin through Sabbath keeping or the law, there would be no need of Christ or the Holy Spirit. And that, my friend, is the gospel! If you want to understand the book of Romans, Galatians and Colossians , read it with this in mind, and suddenly you will understand the entire books so much better Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and deathThe Adventists claim *the law written and engraved in stone,* called the law of *"Condemnation and DEATH"* (2Cor.3:6-9) is "NOT AGAINST" the person who breaks the Sabbath. *Even worse, the SDA claims that the law of death and condemnation written in stone is the law of Liberty!!* The Adventists say, *"the 10 Commandments are not the law of SIN AND DEATH"* EVEN ELLEN G. WHITE AND ADVENTISTS FUNDAMENTALS ADMITS IT IS! Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: *every one that defileth it shall surely be put to DEATH:* for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth ANY work in the sabbath day, *he shall surely be put to DEATH.* The Sabbath commandment stood as a *"WITNESS" AGAINST THE TRANSGRESSORS!* Here's what Ellen G. White says: "...to knowingly transgress the holy commandment forbidding labor upon the seventh day is a CRIME in the sight of heaven which was of such magnitude under *the MOSIAC law* ( *the law of Moses* ) as to require *the DEATH of the offender.* But this was not all that the offender was to suffer, for God would NOT take a transgressor of His law to heaven. *He MUST suffer the second death* , which is the full and final penalty for the transgressor of the law of God." --Ellen G White, Testimonies for the Church 1, Chapter 91 - Proper Observance of the Sabbath --Testimony Treasures, Proper Observance of the Sabbath --Testimony for the church pamphlet In So, tell me how after ONE time someone breaks the Sabbath, tell me how the breaking of the Sabbath is not *A LAW AND ORDINANCE (Decree) AND WITNESS HELD AGAINST THEM!* Because, Col. 2 says you were DEAD IN YOUR SINS, Sabbath keeper or NOT. • Romans 4:14 *For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:* • Romans 4:15 *Because the law worketh wrath:* • • Galatians 3:12 And *the law is NOT of faith* • • Romans 5:20 *Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.* But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: • • Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: *for ye are NOT under the law* , but under grace. • Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, *ye also are become dead to the law by the BODY of Christ* (Col. 2:16) ; that ye should be *married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.* • Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, *did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto DEATH* . • Romans 7:6 *But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held* ; that we should serve in *newness of spirit, and NOT in the oldness of the letter.* Romans 7:10 And the commandment, which was *ordained to life, I found to be unto death.* • Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. • Romans 8:2 *For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE from the law of sin and death* • Romans 10:4 For Christ is the *end of the law for righteousness* to every one that believeth • Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.* And once more , 1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and *the strength of sin is the law.* Col. 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. • Col. 2:13 And you, *being DEAD in your sins* and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, *having forgiven you all trespasses;* • Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.* • 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; *NOT of the LETTER* , but of the spirit: for *the LETTER KILLETH* but the spirit giveth life. • Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, *in the spirit, and NOT in the LETTER;* whose praise is not of men, but of God. 1TIM1:9 *Knowing this, that the law is NOT made for a righteous man, but FOR the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,* 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,…
Indeed it is constructive to have a discussion, except agreements take a very long time to reach, on these threads. Even the videos don't bring the points together very well: the time and place almost can't be found to clear up the different viewpoints adequately.
A great idea, but, when the video doesn't succeed in understanding the other's point of view despite his best efforts, it's unlikely to go far, on here, I suppose.
@@fournierro1 Ellen G White departed from the Grace of God, the very moment she started her false prophecies The SDA departed from God the very moment they believed EGW.
It is sad that you took the most extreme interpretation of what Herbert Douglas has written. Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that there is another gospel that is to be preached that differs from the gospel of the apostles. It is understood that the gospel of Christ has been undermined through history. To deny this would be ignorant. In the gospel of Christ that you have presented it does not discuss about the Ministry of Jesus in heaven which is discussed in the book of Hebrews. It is not believed that the gospel somehow disappeared, but through history the gospel that had been preached by the apostles was distorted. The understanding of the Gospel that Christians are able to enjoy today was not something everyone agreed with in the past. This is why it is important that there is a restoration. The reason why Herbert Douglas made a distinction between gospels and the Everlasting gospel is because the gospel that is preached is not the entire gospel found in Scripture. If the gospel has to be Everlasting it must incorporate the Old and the New testament in its understanding and interpretation. Aa seen through the Bible, it is also understood that God progressively reveals truth. Humans progressively understand truth. This truth agrees with what He has revealed before. Many times its not anything new, but simply a pointing back to what He has already revealed. Thus, for the end times God desires to reveal to the world the entire plan of salvation, the good news about, Jesus and His work so that they can make their final decision for or against Him. It is so hard to communicate already in this world. Please don't let semantics come in the way. GOD BLESS.
Hi Glenda. You sound very close to finding the solution. As you have discovered living out the gospel in faith and love is difficult, in fact so difficult that it is actually impossible to do on your own. The true gospel that Jesus taught is that only God is good. Nobody else is holy, only God. What that means is that all goodness and all holiness comes from God only and that we cannot, in and of ourselves, provide any personal faith and love to add to that. Our hearts are corrupt and impure, so much so that even God cannot bring a good thing out of it. He has to do a heart transplant, giving us a new heart to fix the problem with our sinful disposition. You need to tell Him that you know you cannot do it without His help. Only God can work in and through us to produce those three critical facets of true Christianity, Faith, Hope and Love. He does this by promising that if you ask Him, He will come in and change your heart for you. And do you know the most amazing thing? He is already there by you right now, knocking to come in and to help you and strengthen you and guide you into all truth. He promises you that His yoke and His burden is light. When you feel weighed down by failure and disappointment He is the one to turn to. Talk to Him. Read His Word. The more you do so, the more you study with Him and spend time with the greatest and truest friend you will ever find, the more you will become like Him. It is one of the truest and wisest sayings that by beholding we become changed. That which holds your interest, which you spend time with, who you listen to, will change you. If it is God you are spending time with, your character will be softened, refined and ennobled. It is not you doing it, but God working through you to do this good work. If you turn to God for help, support and power, by daily earnest prayer, you will have noble aspirations, clear perceptions of truth and duty, lofty purposes of action, and a continual hungering and thirsting after righteousness. If you maintain that connection with God, you will be enabled to to diffuse to others through your association with them, the light, the peace and the serenity that now rules in your new heart. And that way, by going to God first and to God only, you will find the answer to your struggle to spread and live the Gospel in faith (and hope) and love.
I have no ill intention when asking this personal question, as I know that current adventist have expressed ill will to your father. But because your father is a SDA pastor, does he know of the seriousness and consequences of preaching this?
well even muslims are called to Christ, so if the SDA really belive in false Jesus, then how they dont see dreams about Jesus calling them out of "false doctrine" I haven't yet heard testimony, iam sure Jesus will see hearts of these people and they really want true Jesus, why cant they be saved if there is some slight differences? Are we really so nit picky? Let they observe their sabbath, but if they truly belive Jesus and finished works of in cross, and babtism then I think we are fine? Also what kind of Baptism the SDAs have? I remember some pastor who study in school to become SDA pastor , and he said u need to be pastor in order to baptise someone.
The Everlasting Gospel is not some special kind of gospel persay. The proclamation of truth is based on the time period we live in. Based on the time the application of the gospel is different, hence the emphasis would be. God does different acts throughout history. From the time of Adam and Eve, the gospel was the same, Jesus would be substitute for man's salvation. But when it came to Noah's time it was a different application. Only those who accepted the message of the flood would be saved. During the time of Moses, the gospel was still the same, but they had to celebrate the passover and other feasts later, which pointed to Jesus. Throughout the old testament the Exodus story was how they understood the gospel along with the temple services. During the rebellion of the Kings the gospel was the same but they had to surrender to Babylon for God's people to be preseved. During this period false teachers rose and undermined the proclamation of the prophets. That was the specific application of the gospel for that time. During the time of Jesus, the gospel finally applied to His earthly life and ministry. So the Apostles focused on the life death and resurrection of Jesus. But they also pointed to the future work of Christ. God expects us to understand the gospel based on what he is currently doing. Fortunately God has given us an opportunity not only to understand the New testament application of the Gospel, but the gospel that is revealed from the beginning of sin. We have the privilege of understanding the Big picture. The principle is the same. But the application differs. In the end times, the focus of the Gospel is on the Judgement of God.
Aka it isn’t the same as what the Apostles preached. What you guys mean by “different settings” and “truth based on the time period we live in” is that it’s teachings and beliefs Jesus didn’t reveal to the Apostles as the Gospel. When you say “the gospel was the same”, no it wasn’t. Because you’re saying different things had to be believed at different periods to be saved. That means it isn’t the same definite gospel message. Your church teaches a “judgment” but not the judgment the Apostles preached. Trying to weasel in the “Investigstive judgment” as a substitute because “the apostles didn’t live in our setting”. Again, this is just a crafty way of changing the Gospel message. Yes, Christian’s do preach the same judgment the apostles did. It isn’t different. You are filtering all of this through your presupposition of “present truth” which isn’t true as well as your assumption that Revelation 14 is about you all and the current day. It isn’t. It had application to the first century audience it was written to. You guys denude it from this and make it null and void for 1800 years of the Church’s history. And no, the truth isn’t relative to the time period in which one lives.
@@answeringadventism I understand it is difficult to appreciate the "Investigative judgement". It is considered by many as a cop out... Nevertheless in your presentation of the Gospel of Christ, you could have atleast mentioned the Highpriestly ministry of Jesus of the order of Melkizedek that is discussed in Hebrews. This then connects the Old Testament and New Testament very well. We also have to consider that we don't have a record of everything the apostles said. So we don't have all the explanation of all their theological beliefs. The church fathers wrote much later and some interpreted many scriptures using Greek Philosophy. Even their writings are reactions. We don't have all the writings that existed in the 1st century AD. So just because one doesn't subscribe to the gospel as stated in something like the Apostles Creed doesn't discredit understanding the gospel from a different perspective. In the epistles, the apostles wrote to address certain issues, therefore we cannot expect that they stated all that they believed in. Plus something as comprehensive as the Gospel cannot just have one definition. The Gospel is multifaceted. "Truth based on the times period we live in" you believe Christ did not reveal to His disciples as the Gospel. But we see that what we believe, Christ did reveal to his disciples as the gospel and implied throughout. If you don't wish to agree with it... You do you. I stated that the gospel was the same from the beginning as seen in Hebrews 11. All exercised faith in Jesus. The same Jesus, the same sacrifice and the same ministry. God is consistent. But He doesn't reveal everything at one time. That's why there were many prophets and many prophecies. In terms of Judgement that we preach about, John was the only one who mentioned this Judgement explicitly as he was given the Prophecy. If this judgment is referring to the final judgment then there is no use of these messages for the verdict has already been made in this fashion don't you think? There would be no gospel to the world but just a condemnation upon the world. The three angels messages are part of the gospel of Christ for they call the world to believe in the lamb of God and worship God the way He deserves before it is too late. It is Good news because God will finally bring justice to the universe. The verse says the the Judgement has already come. Thus it cannot be referring to an event after the coming of Jesus but before. Anyway I suppose all of this might be gibberish to you. I might be completely mistaken to you. But if you look at these carefully you might be able to see the beauty of the gospel that I see.
@@chesedwalnut3062 Christ’s high priestly work IS mentioned in the presentation. Propitiation made through Christs blood and being reconciled to God are part of the High Priestly work, both of which are mentioned. Your comment is just laced with standard SDA assumptions that need demonstrated, not assumed. The hour of Gods judgement HAD come. And it still here. That’s part of the Gospel message-repent and believe because there is coming a day in which God will judge the world in righteousness so flee to Christ for forgiveness because there is a wrath to come. That is what the apostles preached. No, they didn’t preach an Investigative judgement that you guys are now just weaseling in to say “no, no, we are saying judgement, but it’s a judgement for this context which is the investigative judgement”. No, that isn’t how this works. It isn’t just a general concept of judgement that has to be present and then you define that however. The Apsotles were not revealed by Christ of an Investigstive judgement to take to the world. It’s a universal call to repent and believe the Gospel because ALL people will stand before God and unless you are found in Christ it’s going to be a bad day for you. Not some unique judgement only for professor believers and then a different judgement for the lost, etc. It isn’t gibberish, but it’s the same cookie cutter SDA talking points and claims that aren’t proven, but just asserted and assumed. You admitted that the message isn’t the same because it wasn’t “revealed” in its fullness to the Apostles. That isn’t what Paul says. That isn’t what scripture says. Paul was clear in correcting the Galatian churches about a definite message they had veered from. You guys are no different. You can do all sorts of gymnastics and word games to try and make it fit, but at the end of the day it’s a different Gospel that can’t save anyone. The Investigstive judgment, 7th day sabbath, young earth creation, health reform and leaving Protestant churches has nothing to do with the Gospel. This is you guys making assertions and le saying everyone else is bound to it as if Christianity was born with you all. What a joke.
@@answeringadventism @Answering Adventism There is no harm to specifically mention Christ's Highpriestly ministry seperately. Propitiation simply indicates offering for the wrath of God. Looking at the text, this judgement that is mentioned in the first angel must condemn Babylon. Babylon must fall. It must be judged. It is then that those who recieve the mark shall be tormented. You state that there is no different judgment, but Jesus says there are two resurrections, along with Daniel and Revelation also describes 2 resurrections. The Bible also teaches that the saints will judge angels. Did Paul mean saints judge through Christ or that saints would actually judge them? Making a literal narrative from a parable of Jesus isn't that wise. Except for the investigative judgement, all other doctrines that you have mentioned is not unique to SDAs. If believing in death as a result of sin and not evolution, living a healthy lifestyle to the glory of God, and doing what Protestants have always done (Radicals left the Lutherans and Zwinglis, Methodist left the Anglican Church to name a few) is unbiblical, I don't know what to say. It is said that the biggest problem with Adventistism is legalism. But our official documents doesn't support legalism, we actively try to fight against it. SDAs officially do not believe that right living merits salvation. Yes there are many in the church who do. But that's not what we believe officially. And, doesn't legalism exist in every church? Must truth be rejected just because Satan leads people to legalism. Wasn't Judaism the truth during the time of Jesus? The Pharisees were legalistic. But their ways were never the Biblical doctrine. It is no different today. Jesus pointed their error but also agreed with them when they were right. Although SDA doctrine doesn't align with the majority of Christians, it doesn't mean that it isn't rational and reasonable. Anyway, you don't need to accept anything I have said. You say it's cookie cutter assumptions, I also see the same with your approach. Same old objections that have been answered. It is easy to latch on to points that seem to denounce ideas one doesn't wish to agree with. Your arguments can win a debate, but not a controversy. You say we twist, I would say the same of you. We go no where. 😅 I would just like you to be careful. SDA theology might be more robust than is superficially perceived although to many its not worth believing in because of unpleasant experiences and other reasons. Thank you for your time. May God help us find what we are looking for.
There is oy one Gospel & that is only found in the New Testament in the 4 Gospels. It was for the salvation of the lost sinners. Corinthians 15:1-4 NKJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, Never given to us by angels but by the blood of Christ on the cross to all who believe.
What is a Protestant? What is the "Council of Laodicea Canon law 29"? 364 A.D. I can't find in the Bible where it says 7 years of tribulation from Genesis to the end of Revelations? Where in the Bible does it say exactly seven years of tribulation? Can someone help me?
Ive spent quite a bit of time over the last month dialoging with an SDA leader. They dont have answers. They run down rabbit holes instead of staying ON subject. Then, when they show their TOTAL LACK of bible knowledge, theyll send you to a video
For the record, The "time" and "name" of "Easter" for Christ's resurrection, is likewise "another Cursed gospel" in and of itself, and contrary to The Scriptures... 1 Cor. 15 : 1 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;" 1 Cor. 15 : 2 "By which also ye are saved, **IF** ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have Believed In Vain." 1 Cor. 15 : 3 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, How That Christ Died For Our Sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES;" 1 Cor. 15 : 4 "And that He was Buried, and that He Rose again the Third Day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES:" Question: According To WHAT Scriptures?: Isaiah 53... Psalm 22 ... Daniel 9 ... Hosea 6 : 1 - 2 ... Obviously, just to name a few... But the elephant in the room that most of Christendom seems to ignore is: The "Scripture" of Leviticus 23 : 4 - 14 !!! Day #1 = Passover ( Death ) Day #2 = Feast Of Unleavened Bread ( Buried ) The 3RD DAY = FirstFruits ( Resurrection ) Even Paul agrees... - 1 Cor. 5 : 7 "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For Even Christ Our PASSOVER Is Sacrificed For Us: - 1 Cor. 5 : 8 "Therefore Let Us Keep The FEAST, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with THE UNLEAVENED BREAD of sincerity and truth. - 1 Cor. 15 : 20 - 23 " But now is Christ RISED from the DEAD, and Become the FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also THE RESURRECTION of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ Shall All Be Made Alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's AT HIS COMING. ( See: Hosea 6 : 1 - 2 again, for Our "collective" "3rd day resurrection" ) What in the world does "Easter"/Eostre ( a pagan fertility sun-goddess ) and her pagan spring equinox festival, with it's superstitious rituals, have Anything to do with the Gospel Of Jesus Christ, and His Death, Burial, Resurrection on Third Day, ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES??? ... ( The Truth is, It Doesn't! ) Christ is Our PASSOVER LAMB ... NOT Our EASTER HAM! ( An Unholy Thing ) ( Isaiah 53 : 7 ... John 1 : 29 ... Rev.13 : 8 ... Rev. 14 : 1 ) Acts 17 : 30 And the times of this Ignorance God Winked At; BUT NOW Commandeth All Men Every Where TO REPENT: Heb. 10 : 26 "For if we Sin Wilfully AFTER That We Have Received the Knowledge Of The Truth, There Remaineth No More Sacrifice For Sins," Heb 10 : 27 "But a certain fearful looking for of Judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10 : 28 "He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10 : 29 "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath Trodden Under Foot The Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an Unholy Thing, and hath done Despite unto the Spirit of Grace?" ( Prayers for misguided SDA's, and also for you, and your ministry, as well... that We All will come into the knowledge and Belief of the full truth of YHWH God and His Son Jesus Christ, and dis-inherit the lies! Amen.. ( Jeremiah 16 : 19 )
@@rayray4192 ... You think mixing what is Holy with the profane are "great celebrations of Christ" from The Most High God? ... The same God that cut the northern tribes of ancient Israel, and even Judah, off and out of the land, for doing the same things? Better Think Again... (Read Deut 12 & Exod 23 : 13, Ezek. 22 )
@@mitchellosmer1293 .. The SDA'S have made Yah's Holy Feast Days (of Lev 23) null & void, along with nearly all the rest of Christendom.. Without THEM, in which points to Yeshua, you have no true Gospel... The 4th Beast of Daniel thought to "change" - "times" & "laws" ( plural ) ...(Dan 7 : 25) The weekly Shabbat is NOT the only "appointed time" of God that Rome has "changed". This is the point.
@@mitchellosmer1293 ... Hello...and It's not just "my opinion", if it's a fact tho... The SDA's, as a "corporate church entity" has indeed gone along with the rest of most all of Christendom in making Yah's Feast Days null and void... But ironically, they still keep with the pagan-rooted festivals of the world, with the celebration of Xmas, The Janus New Year, Valentines Day, etc, contrary to the command of YHWH God from Deut 12... ... And if you are already well aware that The Beast of Daniel 7 : 25 has indeed "changed" the "time" of more than just God's weekly Sabbath, then i guess i'm not understanding your retort? ... Of course, Yeshua's sacrifice/ death on the tree, was enough... That's why we don't need the blood of bulls and goats any longer... But His set-apart appointed "times" foreshadowing Messiah's 1st and 2nd Comings are still significant, in the worshipping of God in "spirit and in truth" upon them. (John 4 : 20 - 24 )
@@mitchellosmer1293 .. No sir... The Fall Feasts haven't been fulfilled yet! And won't be fully until Yeshua's 2nd Coming.. But we still "honor Yeshua" in The Spring Feasts for the "memorial" of His "death, burial, and resurrection" within them, "according to the scriptures".. ( 1 Cor. 15 : 1 - 4 ) ( .. and Not the "Good Friday" or "Easter" counterfeits of the Mother Church, but the actual "appointed Holy days" Exod 12 & Lev. 23 : 4 - 14 )... and we're not to let the unbelieving "Rabbinical Jew" or "gentile", "Judge Us" in this. ( Col. 2 : 16 - 17 ).. Just as we don't let them judge us in keeping of Yah's weekly Shabbat, and new moons/months of the biblical calendar.. or in observance of the "meat & drink" offering of Messiah upon them ( aka: "communion" John 6 : 53 - 57 )... And God's Fall Feasts ( Lev. 23 : 24 - 44 ) are like "dress rehearsals" in anticipation for the "appointed time" for indeed when He Comes Again! ... When all God's People will say "HalleluYAH!!)
@AnsweringAdventism Just to add some clarity to the word "Gospel" which you have tagged, and rightly so, as "Good News". The word Gospel comes from Old English "Godspel" which are two Old English words, "Gods" and "Spel" where in Old English the word Spel means Story or Message. The word God of course has not changed from Old English to our current English. So the word Gospel in fact means "God's Message" or "God's Story". This helps a lot in understanding exactly what the Gospel really is. How do we correctly read the words "The Gospel of Jesus Christ"? Well, Christ is just derived from the Greek for "the Anointed". So it really means "God's Story of Jesus the Anointed" or you could say "God's Message of Jesus the Messiah" because Messiah is from the Hebrew for "the Anointed". This is why I stand firmly on the words of Jesus who on the road to Emmaus clearly said: In *all* the scriptures the things concerning Himself. (My emphasis on the *all* because sadly it is so easily missed). God's Message to humanity about the tremendously Good News.that was originally given by Jesus Himself when He stood in front of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and prophetically announced a promised one, a seed, a He, who would bruise the head of the serpent and himself be bruised by Satan. It is the same one long battle that began long ago in Heaven, spilled over into Eden and continues to this day until the final day of Gods Judgement when He will destroy Satan for all time, root and branch. Satan the root, his followers the branches. As an ex Adventist you will of course recognise this as the Great Controversy between God and Satan that has been running so far for at least 6,000 years.
@@dennoggi587 Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that *unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. …. " That is said by EGW and taught by Adventism to undermine the coming of Christ, who "Unmistakenly" *IS THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD* , RATHER THAN A *SHADOW* (Col.2:16) WHICH *POINTS* TO GOD"
@@dennoggi587 , they are terrified to debate me. I am one of the best teachers and researchers on Daniel 8. I would crush them, they know it, that's why they refuse. If you can get them to debate me, I'd be thrilled
Hey brother, It's not very Christian of you to make a channel on TH-cam and commit yourself 24 hours, consuming yourself with hatred and vengeance on the SDA, maybe you will wounded by somebody or something in the church but the Bible to forgive. I don't think God would want anybody spreading spiteful information that is not true. I hope and pray you can find something nice and constructive to do, that is not going to upset people, the SDA people that I go to church with you will never hear them talking like you are doing.
That God I'm subscribe to your Channel I found out about you thanks to Godlogic. My pastor is friends with a to a Seventh-day Adventist and the Saventh-day Adventist is saying that our beliefs are the same are yours keeping this Ministry going and that you so much.
Jesus did not preach to be dead to the law. Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Contrast this with paul! Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. I dont know about you but there appears to be a different message on law being taught!
There is only one everlasting covenant/gospel made with mankind found in in the cross of Christ..this will always be proclaimed especially in the 3 angels messages final warnings before the return of Christ Jesus
The summary of Ellen G. Whites Controversy argument are thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3. 1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church along with the Apostles was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to "Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone. Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it. 2. The falling away, was NOT those who left the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. but THOSE WHO REMAINED WITH the Apostolic Church Christ instituted was "fa 'ling away" . And, ONLY those who would LEAVE the Church would be saved, while those who followed in obedience to the Church would be lost. 3. The falling away in her mind described in 2Thess. 2:4 was caused by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church abandoning the enforcement of the Sabbath commandment upon the Gentiles. and that every Christian must become Jewish first, before claiming to be Christian and the claim of Cephas to be Pope. 4. Her claim was that Grace and faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Holy Spirit was and is not sufficient to keep a person from murdering or stealing..etc., thus the spirit of lawlessness. And, that only by the LAW of 10 commandments could keep people from sinning, not by the power of the Holy Spirit. 5. She also claimed that suddenly somewhere long before 325AD, the Catholic Church and THE POPE, who was the Vicar of Christ and no one in the entire known world protested. This was already occurring in 53AD when the Apostle Paul wrote 2ThessaIonians 2 while at the same time the Apostle Paul as calling the Pope "Cephas" meaning Rock. And, prior to that Christ named Him "Rock" from the moment Christ called him and so did every other Apostle who spoke the Aramaic language, as Christ and most of Judea at the time. Only those who DISOBEYED the Church could be saved in EGW's teaching. 6. Ellen G. White in writing claimed by the time of Constantine, AND THE POPE, and the entire known world of Christianity had faIlen away to join forces with the Pope and that was "The Great Falling Away" prophesied in 2Thess. 2:4 in 325AD , While at the same time teaching the Papacy didn't BEGIN until 538AD 217 years later. 7. In order to justify the claim that Peter was not the first Pope, she declared that Peter, whose proper name, "Cephas" in the Aramaic and "Peter" in the Greek means "Rock" , went to hell, when the "Gates of Hell prevailed against him" (Desire of the Ages) 8. For Ellen G. White, persecution and martyrdom of the Church was a good thing and the church living in peaceful times was deplorable. She would have preferred that the torture of the Christians continued than have peace. 9. In the end, Ellen G. White and the Adventist church teaches the Papacy didn't begin until 538AD according to their 1260 day prophecy, but that conflicts directly with their own writings which say the Papacy was already ruling in 325AD, which is 217 years or more. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of 10. Ellen G. White claimed that this "Angel" had showed her that Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself "above all that is ca 'led God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. "No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. *The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2:7. R.V.) which, EVEN in Paul's day, had begun its work. Chapter 3 of Great Controversy. Yet, there is no record of any "Controversy" about a change from the Sabbath to Sunday in the records of Church history. And, neither is there any controversy concerning Peter's place as the Rock Christ gave him. Acts 15-16:4 Clearly condemns the Judaizing of Christians and from then on every person who taught that the Gentiles were obligated to live as do the Jews, were called, "False brethren" and to be avoided. 11. EGW's and the Adventist's claim Christ (God himself in the flesh) could NOT and did not "Point mankind to the true and Living God" And, that only by Sabbath keeping could they come to know God, not by Christ alone as Saviour.
@@billclass5847 Revelation has zero to do with the body of Christ. There are over 600 references to the OT and Israel. Romans 11 Israel shall be restored. God will make Israel to do what he set them apart to do and that’s how we are also heirs, never promised a kingdom or land but will receive an inheritance not just eternal life.
The inheritance yes is eternal life which also includes a returning unto the land after the destruction of all the enemies of God. Both are conjoined as the promise of God. I order to have that accomplished death which is the last enemy is destroyed and sin eradicated so that the land sinless and everlasting…then sinless man will inherit it forever. This is the everlasting gospel and only done in Christ the seed. All in Christ are the promises made and those are the children of Abraham
@@billclass5847 You are the very person these vids are warning about. I know you can't see it but the truth is being taught here. It will help some get out of the SDA cult and prevent others from ever joining. Romans 10:13 🙏
@@RandomTChance *Rev. 18:20 and the Martyrdom of Polycarp proves Adventism..etc., is false* The Martyrdom of Polycarp (AD 117): Here's a direct quote The *CHURCH* of God which sojourns at *Smyrna* (Rev. 2) , to the *CHURCH* of God sojourning in Philomelium, and to ALL the congregations of *the Holy and CATHOLIC CHURCH* in every place: Mercy, peace, and love from God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, be multiplied. For, [Polycarp] having through patience overcome the unjust governor, and thus acquired the crown of immortality, *he NOW, with the apostles and all the righteous [in heaven], rejoicingly glorifies God, even the Father, and blesses our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour of our souls, the Governor of our bodies, and *the Shepherd of the *CATHOLIC CHURCH throughout the world* .[28] *(The placing of Polycarp's immortal soul in heaven after his martyrdom is exactly what we find in Revelation 18:20 with the Apostles and all the righteous)* Notice how the author, says *Christ is the Shepherd of the Catholic Church THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WORLD" In other words, the entire Christian world in 117 AD understood 2 things: 1.That Christ was the Shepherd of the Catholic Church and 2.The doctrine of the immortality of the soul and teaching of the righteous souls went to heaven after the death of the body was taught by Christ and the Church *throughout the whole world!* Another Adventist heresy on soul sleep and annihilationism bites the dust.
The problem I have if I could convince my family members and friends to give up on the SDA church where would they go? Just saying any church other than the SDA is not going to be good enough for them. My family members and most of my SDA friends would argue why would we quit our church and join some other lawless Christianity sec., where their doctrines differ so much and they pick and choose Gods laws that should and should not be followed. And I honestly don't know what to tell them. Maybe you guys could help me sale them on the one and only true Christ church who has it all 100% correct. My catholic friends and family would say they are the one and only true church. But again my Mormon friends would say that their the true church and southpark seem to agree. Lol. Anyway all helpful suggestions would be great, Thank you and God bless.
My humble opinion, is that John on Patmos... was not attending a weekly "service". Not sure that Paul, who seemed to travel... was either. There is no elusive "right" church. A church is simply an imperfect body of believers. A "church" cannot & should not become an idol unto itself. -THE unique end-time church, is a cultic joke No church, can save anyone. -Christ saves individuals, that respond to His voice SDA Fundamental belief no. 1 CLAIMS scripture is the supreme, authoritative, and infallible revelation of God's will. -a great idea, that SDAs don't actually uphold They will need to realize that the 7th Day Adventist church does not have any "truth" on it's shelves. -so, they sell other things
They need to find a spiritually abusive informed therapist and even deprogramming from the mind control of SDA. Most SDA’s leave Christianity without help because they were never Christian to begin with. Christianity is foreign to them
The reality is there are lots of good Bible believing, gospel preaching churches in existence. As an Adventist I had no clue of this! I thought they were all just antinomians, word of faith, tongues speaking, and other such nonsense. In light of my misconceptions it seemed reasonable to be in the SDA Church, despite all of its issues. After all, nothing out there was any better, or so I thought. But then the Lord opened my eyes, and showed me such nonsense was not true. Since leaving Adventist I have frequently travelled around and ended up in different places from week to week. Almost always I can find a good Bible believing, gospel preaching church. Sometimes these churches are non-denominational, sometimes they are affiliated with one denomination or another. But in churches of different affiliations I have found that I could get good solid expository Bible preaching, and meaningful fellowship with brothers and sisters in Christ.
@@richardfoster5830 Thank you for sharing. Although I think some Adventist are not going to like some of the other churches doctrines over God laws. The different churches that I have attended growing up have vastly different views of the Ten commandments which is huge for the SDA. Some churches that I have attended or my friends have attended would say we are no longer under the law, other say we are, and some Churches have the commandments placed in different orders. Did you run into that problem when you left the SDA church?
Man there is a lot of confusion going on here and misinterpretation of SDA doctrinal beliefs. I’m concerned for the people who are being deceived by your videos. Well I suppose everyone has a duty to know what the Bible teaches and they will have to decide for themselves what to believe?
I have been raised SDA for over 20 years and I totally agree SDA teaches a FALSE gospel. Ellen White is a Fraud, not a prophet. So glad I have been delivered from this cult!
Oh brother, you must be new here. Here we go again with trying to ride the coattails of Methodism lol No, Methodists don’t have a great controversy worldview. But nice try trying to ride their coattails like Adventists have been trying to do for decades. Methodists are Christian. Adventism isn’t. Don’t tarnish their tradition to try and add legitimacy to yours.
@@answeringadventism no not new to your unbiblical heresy. i am a keen bible student and i can see though you false applications of scripture. you will not deceive me even on your best day. As to Hebrew 6:19-20 yes Jesus certainly entered the entire sanctuary in AD31 through the veil into the Most Holy Place. Hebrews is clear on that. Not to begin the Day of Atonement but to Inaugurate the Temple. Just as Moses did as recorded in Numbers 7. Hebrews 9 is not about the day of atonement but about the Inauguration of the sanctuary the transition from the Old covenant to the new covenant temple. Hebrews is clear on that too. Yes i know its heresy just because you dont believe it or maybe havent heard it before. Also if the Methodists do not have a Great Controversy world view that is irrelevant to the concept of Righteousness by faith. Nice try but a straw man arguement.
🤦♂️ Pointing to the phrase “three angels messages” and then inserting your guys erroneous interpretation into that doesn’t mean we are rejecting the Bible. It doesn’t say anything you guys claim. Just like every other apocalyptic cult does the exact same thing with the exact same book. Mercy…
Adventists took Reformed Theology and raked off the nonsense. Like saying the law stands only the Sabbath is the day that Jesus actuallly made holy. Corrected the Limited Atonement, then realised God is not a Sadist, and kept Luther's truth that was discarded by his followers. Namely, "dead people aren't alive". You are welcome.
Wow that is quite false. Adventists in no way shape or form follow the teachings of John Calvin (Reformed Theology [see TULIP]). Adventists are Armenian in origin and yes, from that some unbiblical parts are removed or clarified where unclear or badly put.
What nonsense. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that *unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. …. " That is said by EGW and taught by Adventism to undermine the coming of Christ, who "Unmistakenly" *IS THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD* , RATHER THAN A *SHADOW*(Col.2:16) "WHICH *POINTS* TO GOD" (Col.2:16)
@@billclass5847 the GC has over 82 plagiarized sources and and illustrations stolen. Sorry but God is not a thief and doesn’t use liars either. What excuses do you have for the “shut door” false visions?
@@billclass5847 Hi, not sure what the nonsense is? Fact....the disciples did not live on the dispensation of grace. Fact....the disciples followed jesus earthly ministry in the old covenant ten commandment law that had a righteousness of moses. .Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. Fact....Paul had new information from the risen christ of the righteousness apart from the law. .Today our righteousness has nothing to do with the law, a different gospel! Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth I have clearly stated righteousness's, you cant have both!!! which one do you have brother?
False! “Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.”-Galatians 3:7-8 ESV The same Gospel is what every single person in eternity is there because of. Dispensationalism is erroneous.
You need to go easy on SDA......because THEY ARE GOD'S TRUE CHURCH for these last days. Check: Ecclesiastes 12 :13,14. James 2 :10 - 12 John 14:15 Mathew 15:9 Isaiah 8:16,20 Psalms 1 Revelation 22:14 Hebrews 10 :26. 1 John 3:4
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction to the Gospel
0:38 - Understanding the Gospel
2:39 - Apostle Paul's Gospel Interpretation
4:38 - Concept of the Everlasting Gospel
10:51 - Importance of the Old Landmarks
13:01 - Permanence of the True Gospel
Thank you for this! God has used you to share the truth. I asked three people I know from the SDA Church what the gospel is, and two out of the three told me the Adventist teaching of the everlasting gospel. This was a rude awakening for me. The SDA Church does not teach the true gospel of Jesus Christ. I now have a responsibility to share the truth and to also share the true Sabbath with the people I love.
This is not true every lasting gospel is not only salvation of man even the given of eternal life to human kind..... don't judge the whole by just one or two people mouth all, adventist not understand what is Adventism ...
Read Revelation 12:18
@@mercyvlog6856 what is the everlasting Gospel?
The Seventh-Day Adventist Church teaches a gospel that differs in significant ways from the historic, biblical Gospel of Jesus Christ. While they claim to proclaim the "everlasting gospel" of Revelation 14:6, their message actually emphasizes works-based salvation, obedience to the law, and adherence to Adventist doctrines as the means of securing one's place in God's kingdom.
This stands in stark contrast to the biblical Gospel, which declares that salvation is a free gift of grace, received by faith alone in Christ alone. The "good news" of the Gospel is not about human effort or religious observances, but about the finished work of Christ on the cross, who paid the full penalty for sin and offers eternal life to all who believe in Him.
James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
If you love me keep my commandments. Does faith invalidate the law ? GOD forbid.Be born of the SPIRIT. The law is Spiritual.
It is good to argue that Revelation was written around 60AD and was talking about the destruction of the Temple in 70AD. This pulls the rug out from SDAs and JWs who read Revelation as taking place centuries after the Apostles.
I know the commandments of God, and it is not Sabbath keeping of the Jews. The Adventists and their like have no idea what the commandments of God are for Christians. I will let God commend me, I will not commend myself, as the Pharisees do. That's what you do when you are Christian, unlike the Pharisees.
*There is not one commandment from Christ or his apostles to keep the Sabbath of the Jews.*
Count the number of times the scripture and Christ *commands us* to love one another by *commandment* ! *NOT ONCE DOES CHRIST OR ANY OF THE APOSTLES COMMAND SABBATH KEEPING.* And, while the scripture is explicit for the commandment of Christ to love the Church, the WORK of Adventism is to *persecute and hatemonger the very Church and brethren Christ is commanding you to love* ! Here's your *"Test commandment"* , not Sabbath keeping like the Pharisees but to love and obey Christ's commandments to the Church!
John 13:34
*A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.*
John 13:35
By THIS (SIGN) *shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.*
John 15:12
*This is MY commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.*
John 15:17
These things *I command you, that ye love one another.*
Romans 12:10
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, *but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED the law.*
Galatians 5:13
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, *but by love serve one another.*
Ephesians 4:2
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, *forbearing one another in love;*
1 Thessalonians 3:12
And the Lord make you to increase and *abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:*
1 Thessalonians 4:9
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for *ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.*
Hebrews 10:24
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
1 Peter 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto *unfeigned love of the brethren, *see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:*
1 Peter 3:8
Finally, be ye all of one mind, *having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:*
1 John 3:11
*For THIS IS THE MESSAGE hat ye heard from the beginning, *that we should love one another.*
1 John 3:23
*And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave US COMMANDMENT.*
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let US love one another: for love is of God; and *every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.* (NOT SABBATH KEEPING)
1 John 4:11
Beloved, if God so loved US, *we ought also to love one another.*
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. *If we love one another, God dwelleth in US, and his love is perfected in us.*
2 John 1:5
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though* I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.* >
I DOUBT ONE OF YOU WILL OBEY *"HIS COMMANDMENTS"* TO LOVE THE CHURCH AND THE BRETHREN. Because, the Sabbath keepers have taught you to hate the Brethren and the Church.
Christ commandment is that you love the church and the brother in at the church! And he that does not keep that commandment is a liar and the truth is not in him. Christ commanded all Christians to obey the church and to hear with the church teachers not pick up the Bible and make your own beliefs as the Adventist and thousands of other churches have done. And therefore the Adventist despise persecute and hate the church in defiance of Christ commandment!
*Ellen G. White and the Adventists have taught their followers to persecute and hate the Church Christ instituted, not LOVE IT AND THE BRETHREN*
@@billclass5847 exactly brother. This is it! !
@@kylontobias Thank you!
@@rayray4192 Thank you!
@@rayray4192 I'm quite humbled by your kindness. Thank you!
Thank you, Myles!!
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The TRUTH shall set you free from (SDA) bondage! There is only one gospel in Christ! Thank God
Is sabath holly or it was abolished on the cross
Thanks!
Thank you Dan!
@AnsweringAdventism I went through this fortunately quite short video as I said I would earlier in my comment on the Community Tab of your channel.
As far as the Gospel of Jesus Christ that you have listed goes, I can assure you that Seventh-day Adventists believe all of those things completely and fully with the possible exception of where you infer without quite saying it in your Mat 5:17 quote that Jesus "cancelled" or "destroyed" or "did away with" the Law or the Prophets. We certainly and absolutely do believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law exactly as it says in Mat 5:17. But we also believe in verse 16, 18 & 19 too.
However, what you have listed there is a very meager subset of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It hardly does the title justice at all.
Seventh-day Adventists actually believe that the Gospel of Jesus Christ begins with Genesis 1:1 and ends at Revelation 22:21.
You see, this is where Adventists differ from the modern so-called "Christian" world. We believe very much in 2 Tim 3:16,17 which no other church believes.
Paul is an amazing writer and we have found it such a fruitful study to go through his works which comprise the majority of the New Testament.
Now, I suspect that you will take issue with my statement on 2 Tim 3:16,17. Many people do, and that is because they simply have forgotten what Paul wrote there in verse 16.
"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,"
Oh yes, the modern churches claim to keep the instruction of Paul to Timothy. In fact, I often see them in posters on the inside walls of these churches whenever I visit them there. But sadly, they don't even read it with understanding. The problem?
*All* Scripture. It's not just the New Testament as is so often a favorite subject of churches that title themselves "New Testament Christians" and so on. Paul didn't say New Testament. Paul said *All* Scripture, and that is what they definitely do not do.
In fact any Christian who reads that verse and takes just a few seconds to really really think about it realise that what Paul wrote was actually this:
*All* of the *Old* *Testament* is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine
Oh yeah, that's *exactly* what Paul meant when he wrote those words. There was no New Testament in existence at that time. In fact, Paul would probably have fallen out of his chair if you were to have told him that the actual letter he wrote those words in, would one day be part of the Bible.
To Paul, when he wrote those words, the word *Scripture* referred only to the *Old* *Testament* .
See the problem?
Paul says the Old Testament is "for doctrine". Paul brought no new doctrine to the Gentiles or to the Hebrews.
Jesus said these words long ago on the road to Emmaus, and He is saying them them to you and to me again right now.
"O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?" And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
Do not be someone to whom Jesus says "O foolish one", that would be a terrible thing to hear. Rather, go to the prophets, go to Moses, go to Exodus 20:8-11. There you of course will find the Sabbath commandment, and Jesus said " *all* that the prophets have spoken!"
Not me, not you, not any other human being has the right to enter into judgement on the Bible and say " *some* that the prophets have spoken". I will take this, but this I reject, this doesn't apply to me, I will carve this piece out of the Bible and claim that it doesn't apply to us anymore.
No way! No way at all! *All* Scripture is good for Doctrine. And of all the churches in this world, the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the one single glaring exception of a church that accepts the *entire* Bible as one beautiful and composite whole. We do not cut and paste. We don't say "Oh, Jesus was talking to a Jew so I can ignore this" or "Jesus cancelled the law" when Jesus so clearly and plainly says even the smallest dot or least stroke of the pen will in *no wise* pass from the Law, not as long as Heaven and Earth still exist. Heaven will exist through eternity, and so will the Law, and in that time it will be written on our hearts.
Seventh-day Adventism is a religion that will open your eyes to the amazing and perfect Word of God and show that the Bible is complete and is one indivisible glorious whole and that the Bible, and Only the Bible, and especially the Entire Bible is the one and only complete guide to Salvation.
And that is why your Gospel of Jesus Christ, which we believe in completely, is good, but not really good enough to describe the Gospel of my Lord and my God Jesus Christ. It has to be the living Word of God, all of it, as said so clearly by both Jesus and Paul, every last piece of it.
*All* Scripture.
That is the Everlasting Gospel. There is no other.
Amen and Amen 🙏🏼
Not really good enough? I can’t believe this comment 😂
Psalms 111 : 7,8, 10. The only thing God did with His Hands on this planet was to form man from the dust of the earth and that is mention in scripture. And that He wrote down the Ten Commandments. Everything else was done simply by Him voice.
@@fournierro1 He touched blind eyes with his hands, He healed lepers with His hands...unless you deny Jesus is God
@@idakibuye9309 your write.
Your Right I was just addressing what He did concerning God’s law.
No SDA denies the suffering, death, and resurrection of Jesus as the only mean of our salvation. We can only justify through the life of Jesus but how long does that justification last? How does judgment come into the picture of Justification? How are these two related? Is there any possibility of being sin again? Where does the Holy Spirit come into the picture of Salvation? How can we connect the idea of Salvation, judgment, and sin? While we appreciate and thank God for the life of Jesus that pave our way unto salvation and justifies someone's life who accepts Jesus, we allow the Holy Spirit to seal us until the day of redemption as in Eph 4:30. This is sanctification. This is because when we reject Him, we simply live a sinful life again. So how do we realize that we live in sin? It is the ten commandments of God. This is how the Bible defines sin, by transgressing God's Law.
The gospel isn’t the investigative judgement, young earth creationism, the seventh day sabbath, the health message, leaving Protestant churches, etc.
Your comment has nothing to do with the topic of this video or series. Which is very simple. What the SDA Church calls the “everlasting gospel” is not the gospel. It’s a different message. A false gospel that’s cursed by God because they have added to the gospel message, altering it, just like the judaizers in Galatia did (Galatians 1:6-9).
@@ashleymatengaika9170 , until you ADD the investigative judgement and, sabbath keeping AND making Jesus an archangel
Great job young man I'm glad I happened to find you I know a number of Adventist and people who are interested in it that need to hear your message. I will certainly share.
Needle in the Haystack!! Stop it!! Haha! Thank you for that chuckle Miles! 🤭 Another on point video keep ‘em comin!
As always, thank you for sharing the truth about SDA-ism!!! Looking forward to the next video!
Couldn’t agree more! Excellent breakdown
@@juligraham7319 I really did that. I searched as a Berean. And that’s what led me out of that cult!
@@juligraham7319 I absolutely believe what the Bible says: when we die we go to be with the Lord. Simple as that!
Hi gm sir, how do u understand these 3 phases of the gospel(1) the gospel,(2) the fruit of the gospel (3) the hope of the gospel??❤
lF God gave up HIS promises to the remnant of Israel --- HE would HAVE to give up on us---- we ARE no better. It's ALL to God's absolute sovereignty and GLORY
I love what you are doing here. I am not in the SDA nor have i ever been a member. Like yourself i am a member of a PCA church. I am burdened for the sda church and members. I first learned about the false teaching of the sda via the Cultish TH-cam series on the sda and ellen white.
Welcome bro! Yes, equip yourself to share the true Christ and Gospel with them. They need it!
@@answeringadventism you plan to add a TikTok account?
I am reading this on a beautiful Sabbath day, I just want to say the truth will set you free.
May God richly bless and sanctify you today as he had promised. Blessed Sabbath.
Shalom.
@@nathancordova4618 sorry but what are you talking about about? Don't know what?
@@nathancordova4618 I've watched several of their videos. They are not as indepth into things like Myles. They can't even explain the Trinity correctly from a traditional Orthodox Christian perspective. They thought they were expressing it from that perspective but they weren't.
Great video, bro! I'm so thankful that you take the time to break down Adventist "truth." More proof that Ellen was a master manipulator who denied the clear Gospel of Jesus Christ and taught others to do and teach the same! (SMH 🤦🏾♀️) Moving on to the next video! 😁
Truth! "Master Manipulator" - I have also drawn that conclusion from reading her works...and yeah, her people have been taught well, turning and twisting the Gospel
I think both of you are a bit confused. The gospel is not what Christ does in you as you learn to "walk in the Spirit". The gospel is the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ plus nothing. By Christ's doing & dying "all men" have been justified unto eternal life. Faith cannot add to Christ's work; neither can works. Faith is simply receiving what Christ's has already accomplished in Himself. Yes, a born again person has a different mindset (heart), and yes he grows in grace, but he is never good enough to gain heaven by his works of faith. As Paul said, "all have sinned (past tense) and (in the present continuous tense) all "come short of the glory of God (His agape love)."
Now, let's explore the gospel. Question: How did Christ legally save you from "under the curse of the law"? Note the word "legally"! The answer you give reveals the gospel you present. But, unlike you, I'm not going to condemn you because your gospel doesn't line up with "the gospel" as taught by the Apostle Paul. Remember, Christ takes people where they are at in their understanding and corrects through the holy spirit.
Agree that it is Christ atonement that we are saved. But what do you say of the subject matter of this video- is adventism gospel true or heresy?
One Jesus will appear in these same blue skies
Bill Class. Please read Acts 13:42-44; 18:4. Jews AND Gentiles all came together on the Sabbath day. Making the 1st day holy and sanctified is an imagination ( they THINKto change Gods times and laws) of men. Gods law is eternal Psa 111:7-10. The other sabbathbdays in Col 2:16 were just a part of the temporal yearly addministration of the earthly sanctuary that finished at the cross when the veil was torn. These yearly removal Sabbaths served their purpose ,but Gods eternal Sabbath will be kept for an eternity Isa 66:22 23 and NEVER EVER changed
1 John 1 : 6
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
How can you know that you are in christ or not ?
Excellent video brother ❤
i wonder if Myles thinks Limited Atonement was a restoration of truth about the gospel of salvation by bringing the truth about who Jesus died for came to the knowledge of the Saints?
What a goofy claim, Jamie.
Limited atonement isn’t the gospel 🤦♂️
This is precisely the problem, you guys think the gospel is systematic theology when it isn’t. People don’t have to believe in definite atonement to be saved. The gospel is the “power of God to salvation for all that BELIEVE IT.”
I'm really lost tried to follow what u saying try to read the Bible and the Bible alone and u will find answers... It is important to read revelation not because u want to attack adventism but bcz u want to hear what God wants for you... I pray that God open our eyes so that we see and understand what he wants us to hear
Do not go gentle into SDA night. Rage, rage against the dying of the gospel light.
@@CEBGRACE You said "The devil is full of Rage!
He is is he? He is busy in the SDA camp to rage against Bible Christians since 1844.
Seventh-day Adventism is a satanic religious cult.
*RAGE AGAINST THE DYING GOSPEL LIGHT*
Stop killing the Gospel. False gospel follower.
When we speak the truth, we expose error, like a light shining in a dark place. The Word of God is often compared to a light. When one turns on a light, darkness is dispelled. So truth exposes error, trickery, craftiness, and deception. It calms and settles, guides and directs.
Have a great day.
😂 😂
Poor SDA’s so deceived by this counterfeit Christianity.
Keep telling the truth Bro.
im sda 😍
@@soothingmist4527 most of us here were very sincere, dedicated SDA’s too. Until God rescued us.
God?! Mate it sounds more like Lucifer have you in his grasp
@@3Muchlove says you who still belongs to a deeply flawed anti-gospel cult who worships a different jesus.
How can any person who claim to be a true follower of Jesus Christ accept a false Gospel other than the True Gospel of Jesus Christ as preached by Paul. Sadly though, SDA indeed is preaching "another" gospel.
My God! What a web of lies and deceit that EGW has spun and those who were blindly caught in that web continued spinning - to this day ensnaring baby Christians. I thank God for you, Myles, that you are among those who sought the truth and so you were guided by the Holy Spirit. Those who are steeped in following Adventism's false gospel will remain spiritually blinded until they, too, start seeking the truth. Pharoah's heart had been "hardened" for he had no intention of letting the Israelites go; A set of unbelieving Jews were spiritually blinded -and so Christ became a "stumbling block" to them because they didn't receive Him. And so the pattern follows with Adventism (among others) who believe a false gospel. Blessings to all those who have the Bible, ALONE, as their source 🙏🏾
Don’t call God’s name in vain! Keep bowing to mare mortals - myles is obviously your ‘prophet’ …hypocrisy at its highest 😮
What is the Truth?
As always good video 😅
SDA accuse Christians of being commandment breakers because we don't observe Saturday as a Sabbath yet they disobey Jesus commandment of spreading His Gospel(Matt 28:19-20)and obey EGW spreading her gospel =her visions inserted in Rev 14:6-14 worshipping Jesus on any day of the week we will not be cursed but spreading the false gospel SDA are cursed not once but twice over
Whats more they use pope Gregory (Gregorian) calendar to determine their Sabbath day. Where as at the time of Mosses the Hebrew calendar was used to determine the 7th day which was from new moon to new moon
@@roybuckle7576 Exactly, they use man's calendar and call Saturday a holy day SDA Yesterday 23th March the first Cresent of the Moon was sighted(1st day of the month) 7 days from there will fall on Thursday 30th March their sabbath will continue again to 6th April, 13 April that ends the moon cyle
The thing is SDA's are always preaching that they are the remnant church because they keep all the commandments, yet they only talk about the Sabbath and nothing else. In a nutshell it's either the Sabbath or Ellen G. White that they talk about and it's on constant repeat.
@@calvindonaldson9879 They are so obsessed and militant about a sabbath command given to Ethnic Israel only, and it's not salvific
@@calvindonaldson9879 that's not true
The Adventist church does have some strange silly ideas
Not replacing or reinventing the gospel taught by Jesus & his Apostles: continuing the revival begun by the Reformers, and giving it its flavour designed for "the time of the end", as each previous generation had its unique message from God to give to the world.
Peter's letter to the churches speaks of the "present truth" for his day, which all the Apostles were spreading. What is today's gospel emphasis, that the Bible presents?
Also, historicist interpretation of prophecy was the teaching of the Reformers, so it is no strange thing: all prophetic symbols and chapters ofmthe Bible follow the timeline of history in its details as Dan 2 & 7 set the example for.
As an illustration, that's why, with the first four seals of Rev 6 the four horses have their best meaning as the Christian era in four stages, from the initial, pure evangelism of the known world all the way till corrupt church leadership and the suffering it caused in the world, up till about the start of the 19th century.
The last two seals of Rev 6 hint at the shortness of time since 1800 till Jesus indeed returns. Thus the 6th seal is complemented by the seventh seal, for all the angels will have left heaven with Jesus to come here, leaving half an hour of silence: when a prophetic day equals a year of real time, 30 minutes equals 7 days. After reaching the earth from heaven very rapidly, and then returning slowly over a seven day period, the saints all admiring Jesus and the angels, and noticing the galaxies as we go.
I think you are confused.
No, SDA is confused, Ellen white is a fraud, not a prophet
AND THEN THE HOLY SABBATH STAYS THE SAME FRIDAY AFTERNOON SUN DOWN TO SATURDAY AFTERNOON SUN DOWN I’m a KING JAMES BIBLE BELIEVER I SDB SEVEN DAYS BELIEVER AND I IT IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST I THINK YOU ARE BOTH WRONG IF YOU THINK IT’S SUNDAY IS THE HOLY SABBATH YES YOU WILL BE WRONG BUT IF YOU STILL THINK IT STARTS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON SUNDOWN THEN YOU FOLLOWING JESUS GOSPEL TELL ME JESUS NEVER CHANGES HIS GOSPEL KJV BIBLE WITH THE WORDS GODS LOVE TO YOU
We need to have a discussion concerning these topics. We are Thusia Seventh Day Adventist are willing to bring Clarity by God's grace.
What ever I read what ever they says. Do not ever depart from Psalms 111 : 7,8,10. Lucifer will use all he could find to put doubt in God’s children.
Sin under the new testament is obeying the sinful nature of man which is summarized in Gal. 5:17-19. And, what a Christian should be is shown clearly in Gal. 5:22-24. Those of the law are still in the flesh, those of the Spirit walk in the Spirit, through faith and by the Grace of Christ. And by His Grace and the workings of the Spirit overcome the flesh, not by keeping law but by the power of the Holy Spirit.
The entire intended righteousness of the body of the law is to be fulfilled in Christians (Rom 8:4) , not by doing the deeds of the law in the letter, but by the fruits of the Holy Spirit working in us. If you could overcome sin through Sabbath keeping or the law, there would be no need of Christ or the Holy Spirit. And that, my friend, is the gospel!
If you want to understand the book of Romans, Galatians and Colossians , read it with this in mind, and suddenly you will understand the entire books so much better
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and deathThe Adventists claim *the law written and engraved in stone,* called the law of *"Condemnation and DEATH"* (2Cor.3:6-9) is "NOT AGAINST" the person who breaks the Sabbath. *Even worse, the SDA claims that the law of death and condemnation written in stone is the law of Liberty!!*
The Adventists say, *"the 10 Commandments are not the law of SIN AND DEATH"*
EVEN ELLEN G. WHITE AND ADVENTISTS FUNDAMENTALS ADMITS IT IS!
Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: *every one that defileth it shall surely be put to DEATH:* for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth ANY work in the sabbath day, *he shall surely be put to DEATH.* The Sabbath commandment stood as a *"WITNESS" AGAINST THE TRANSGRESSORS!*
Here's what Ellen G. White says: "...to knowingly transgress the holy commandment forbidding labor upon the seventh day is a CRIME in the sight of heaven which was of such magnitude under *the MOSIAC law* ( *the law of Moses* ) as to require *the DEATH of the offender.* But this was not all that the offender was to suffer, for God would NOT take a transgressor of His law to heaven. *He MUST suffer the second death* , which is the full and final penalty for the transgressor of the law of God." --Ellen G White, Testimonies for the Church 1, Chapter 91 - Proper Observance of the Sabbath --Testimony Treasures, Proper Observance of the Sabbath --Testimony for the church pamphlet In
So, tell me how after ONE time someone breaks the Sabbath, tell me how the breaking of the Sabbath is not *A LAW AND ORDINANCE (Decree) AND WITNESS HELD AGAINST THEM!* Because, Col. 2 says you were DEAD IN YOUR SINS, Sabbath keeper or NOT.
• Romans 4:14 *For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:*
• Romans 4:15 *Because the law worketh wrath:* •
• Galatians 3:12 And *the law is NOT of faith* •
• Romans 5:20 *Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.* But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: •
• Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: *for ye are NOT under the law* , but under grace.
• Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, *ye also are become dead to the law by the BODY of Christ* (Col. 2:16) ; that ye should be *married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.*
• Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, *did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto DEATH* .
• Romans 7:6 *But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held* ; that we should serve in *newness of spirit, and NOT in the oldness of the letter.*
Romans 7:10 And the commandment, which was *ordained to life, I found to be unto death.*
• Rom. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
• Romans 8:2 *For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE from the law of sin and death*
• Romans 10:4 For Christ is the *end of the law for righteousness* to every one that believeth
• Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.* And once more ,
1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin; and *the strength of sin is the law.*
Col. 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
• Col. 2:13 And you, *being DEAD in your sins* and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, *having forgiven you all trespasses;*
• Again the Apostle speaks in Galatians 5: 18 *But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.*
• 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; *NOT of the LETTER* , but of the spirit: for *the LETTER KILLETH* but the spirit giveth life.
• Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, *in the spirit, and NOT in the LETTER;* whose praise is not of men, but of God.
1TIM1:9 *Knowing this, that the law is NOT made for a righteous man, but FOR the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,*
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,…
It couldn't be said any better!
Indeed it is constructive to have a discussion, except agreements take a very long time to reach, on these threads. Even the videos don't bring the points together very well: the time and place almost can't be found to clear up the different viewpoints adequately.
A great idea, but, when the video doesn't succeed in understanding the other's point of view despite his best efforts, it's unlikely to go far, on here, I suppose.
@@fournierro1 Ellen G White departed from the Grace of God, the very moment she started her false prophecies The SDA departed from God the very moment they believed EGW.
It is sad that you took the most extreme interpretation of what Herbert Douglas has written. Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that there is another gospel that is to be preached that differs from the gospel of the apostles. It is understood that the gospel of Christ has been undermined through history. To deny this would be ignorant. In the gospel of Christ that you have presented it does not discuss about the Ministry of Jesus in heaven which is discussed in the book of Hebrews. It is not believed that the gospel somehow disappeared, but through history the gospel that had been preached by the apostles was distorted. The understanding of the Gospel that Christians are able to enjoy today was not something everyone agreed with in the past. This is why it is important that there is a restoration. The reason why Herbert Douglas made a distinction between gospels and the Everlasting gospel is because the gospel that is preached is not the entire gospel found in Scripture. If the gospel has to be Everlasting it must incorporate the Old and the New testament in its understanding and interpretation.
Aa seen through the Bible, it is also understood that God progressively reveals truth. Humans progressively understand truth. This truth agrees with what He has revealed before. Many times its not anything new, but simply a pointing back to what He has already revealed. Thus, for the end times God desires to reveal to the world the entire plan of salvation, the good news about, Jesus and His work so that they can make their final decision for or against Him.
It is so hard to communicate already in this world. Please don't let semantics come in the way. GOD BLESS.
Where should those people belive sa BB ath to be holly should go to worship
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I see the SDA apologists are out in force in the comments.
I really struggle with spreading or living out the gospel in faith and love 😔
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Hi Glenda. You sound very close to finding the solution. As you have discovered living out the gospel in faith and love is difficult, in fact so difficult that it is actually impossible to do on your own. The true gospel that Jesus taught is that only God is good. Nobody else is holy, only God. What that means is that all goodness and all holiness comes from God only and that we cannot, in and of ourselves, provide any personal faith and love to add to that. Our hearts are corrupt and impure, so much so that even God cannot bring a good thing out of it. He has to do a heart transplant, giving us a new heart to fix the problem with our sinful disposition.
You need to tell Him that you know you cannot do it without His help. Only God can work in and through us to produce those three critical facets of true Christianity, Faith, Hope and Love. He does this by promising that if you ask Him, He will come in and change your heart for you.
And do you know the most amazing thing? He is already there by you right now, knocking to come in and to help you and strengthen you and guide you into all truth.
He promises you that His yoke and His burden is light. When you feel weighed down by failure and disappointment He is the one to turn to. Talk to Him. Read His Word. The more you do so, the more you study with Him and spend time with the greatest and truest friend you will ever find, the more you will become like Him.
It is one of the truest and wisest sayings that by beholding we become changed. That which holds your interest, which you spend time with, who you listen to, will change you.
If it is God you are spending time with, your character will be softened, refined and ennobled. It is not you doing it, but God working through you to do this good work. If you turn to God for help, support and power, by daily earnest prayer, you will have noble aspirations, clear perceptions of truth and duty, lofty purposes of action, and a continual hungering and thirsting after righteousness.
If you maintain that connection with God, you will be enabled to to diffuse to others through your association with them, the light, the peace and the serenity that now rules in your new heart.
And that way, by going to God first and to God only, you will find the answer to your struggle to spread and live the Gospel in faith (and hope) and love.
Hmm context is everything
I have no ill intention when asking this personal question, as I know that current adventist have expressed ill will to your father. But because your father is a SDA pastor, does he know of the seriousness and consequences of preaching this?
You have no idea how much you have helped me
well even muslims are called to Christ, so if the SDA really belive in false Jesus, then how they dont see dreams about Jesus calling them out of "false doctrine" I haven't yet heard testimony, iam sure Jesus will see hearts of these people and they really want true Jesus, why cant they be saved if there is some slight differences? Are we really so nit picky? Let they observe their sabbath, but if they truly belive Jesus and finished works of in cross, and babtism then I think we are fine? Also what kind of Baptism the SDAs have? I remember some pastor who study in school to become SDA pastor , and he said u need to be pastor in order to baptise someone.
Galatians 2:21 settles the issue once and for all. And why not throw in Acts 15:7-11 also, and Romans 4:16 the verse that Ellen White avoided.
I'm looking forward to this...
The Everlasting Gospel is not some special kind of gospel persay. The proclamation of truth is based on the time period we live in. Based on the time the application of the gospel is different, hence the emphasis would be. God does different acts throughout history. From the time of Adam and Eve, the gospel was the same, Jesus would be substitute for man's salvation. But when it came to Noah's time it was a different application. Only those who accepted the message of the flood would be saved. During the time of Moses, the gospel was still the same, but they had to celebrate the passover and other feasts later, which pointed to Jesus. Throughout the old testament the Exodus story was how they understood the gospel along with the temple services. During the rebellion of the Kings the gospel was the same but they had to surrender to Babylon for God's people to be preseved. During this period false teachers rose and undermined the proclamation of the prophets. That was the specific application of the gospel for that time. During the time of Jesus, the gospel finally applied to His earthly life and ministry. So the Apostles focused on the life death and resurrection of Jesus. But they also pointed to the future work of Christ.
God expects us to understand the gospel based on what he is currently doing. Fortunately God has given us an opportunity not only to understand the New testament application of the Gospel, but the gospel that is revealed from the beginning of sin. We have the privilege of understanding the Big picture. The principle is the same. But the application differs. In the end times, the focus of the Gospel is on the Judgement of God.
Aka it isn’t the same as what the Apostles preached. What you guys mean by “different settings” and “truth based on the time period we live in” is that it’s teachings and beliefs Jesus didn’t reveal to the Apostles as the Gospel. When you say “the gospel was the same”, no it wasn’t. Because you’re saying different things had to be believed at different periods to be saved. That means it isn’t the same definite gospel message.
Your church teaches a “judgment” but not the judgment the Apostles preached. Trying to weasel in the “Investigstive judgment” as a substitute because “the apostles didn’t live in our setting”. Again, this is just a crafty way of changing the Gospel message. Yes, Christian’s do preach the same judgment the apostles did. It isn’t different. You are filtering all of this through your presupposition of “present truth” which isn’t true as well as your assumption that Revelation 14 is about you all and the current day. It isn’t. It had application to the first century audience it was written to. You guys denude it from this and make it null and void for 1800 years of the Church’s history.
And no, the truth isn’t relative to the time period in which one lives.
@@answeringadventism I understand it is difficult to appreciate the "Investigative judgement". It is considered by many as a cop out... Nevertheless in your presentation of the Gospel of Christ, you could have atleast mentioned the Highpriestly ministry of Jesus of the order of Melkizedek that is discussed in Hebrews. This then connects the Old Testament and New Testament very well.
We also have to consider that we don't have a record of everything the apostles said. So we don't have all the explanation of all their theological beliefs. The church fathers wrote much later and some interpreted many scriptures using Greek Philosophy. Even their writings are reactions. We don't have all the writings that existed in the 1st century AD. So just because one doesn't subscribe to the gospel as stated in something like the Apostles Creed doesn't discredit understanding the gospel from a different perspective. In the epistles, the apostles wrote to address certain issues, therefore we cannot expect that they stated all that they believed in. Plus something as comprehensive as the Gospel cannot just have one definition. The Gospel is multifaceted.
"Truth based on the times period we live in" you believe Christ did not reveal to His disciples as the Gospel. But we see that what we believe, Christ did reveal to his disciples as the gospel and implied throughout. If you don't wish to agree with it... You do you.
I stated that the gospel was the same from the beginning as seen in Hebrews 11. All exercised faith in Jesus. The same Jesus, the same sacrifice and the same ministry. God is consistent. But He doesn't reveal everything at one time. That's why there were many prophets and many prophecies.
In terms of Judgement that we preach about, John was the only one who mentioned this Judgement explicitly as he was given the Prophecy. If this judgment is referring to the final judgment then there is no use of these messages for the verdict has already been made in this fashion don't you think? There would be no gospel to the world but just a condemnation upon the world.
The three angels messages are part of the gospel of Christ for they call the world to believe in the lamb of God and worship God the way He deserves before it is too late. It is Good news because God will finally bring justice to the universe.
The verse says the the Judgement has already come. Thus it cannot be referring to an event after the coming of Jesus but before. Anyway I suppose all of this might be gibberish to you. I might be completely mistaken to you. But if you look at these carefully you might be able to see the beauty of the gospel that I see.
@@chesedwalnut3062 Christ’s high priestly work IS mentioned in the presentation. Propitiation made through Christs blood and being reconciled to God are part of the High Priestly work, both of which are mentioned.
Your comment is just laced with standard SDA assumptions that need demonstrated, not assumed.
The hour of Gods judgement HAD come. And it still here. That’s part of the Gospel message-repent and believe because there is coming a day in which God will judge the world in righteousness so flee to Christ for forgiveness because there is a wrath to come.
That is what the apostles preached. No, they didn’t preach an Investigative judgement that you guys are now just weaseling in to say “no, no, we are saying judgement, but it’s a judgement for this context which is the investigative judgement”. No, that isn’t how this works. It isn’t just a general concept of judgement that has to be present and then you define that however. The Apsotles were not revealed by Christ of an Investigstive judgement to take to the world. It’s a universal call to repent and believe the Gospel because ALL people will stand before God and unless you are found in Christ it’s going to be a bad day for you. Not some unique judgement only for professor believers and then a different judgement for the lost, etc.
It isn’t gibberish, but it’s the same cookie cutter SDA talking points and claims that aren’t proven, but just asserted and assumed.
You admitted that the message isn’t the same because it wasn’t “revealed” in its fullness to the Apostles. That isn’t what Paul says. That isn’t what scripture says. Paul was clear in correcting the Galatian churches about a definite message they had veered from. You guys are no different. You can do all sorts of gymnastics and word games to try and make it fit, but at the end of the day it’s a different Gospel that can’t save anyone.
The Investigstive judgment, 7th day sabbath, young earth creation, health reform and leaving Protestant churches has nothing to do with the Gospel. This is you guys making assertions and le saying everyone else is bound to it as if Christianity was born with you all. What a joke.
@@answeringadventism @Answering Adventism There is no harm to specifically mention Christ's Highpriestly ministry seperately. Propitiation simply indicates offering for the wrath of God.
Looking at the text, this judgement that is mentioned in the first angel must condemn Babylon. Babylon must fall. It must be judged. It is then that those who recieve the mark shall be tormented.
You state that there is no different judgment, but Jesus says there are two resurrections, along with Daniel and Revelation also describes 2 resurrections.
The Bible also teaches that the saints will judge angels. Did Paul mean saints judge through Christ or that saints would actually judge them?
Making a literal narrative from a parable of Jesus isn't that wise. Except for the investigative judgement, all other doctrines that you have mentioned is not unique to SDAs. If believing in death as a result of sin and not evolution, living a healthy lifestyle to the glory of God, and doing what Protestants have always done (Radicals left the Lutherans and Zwinglis, Methodist left the Anglican Church to name a few) is unbiblical, I don't know what to say. It is said that the biggest problem with Adventistism is legalism. But our official documents doesn't support legalism, we actively try to fight against it. SDAs officially do not believe that right living merits salvation. Yes there are many in the church who do. But that's not what we believe officially. And, doesn't legalism exist in every church? Must truth be rejected just because Satan leads people to legalism. Wasn't Judaism the truth during the time of Jesus? The Pharisees were legalistic. But their ways were never the Biblical doctrine. It is no different today. Jesus pointed their error but also agreed with them when they were right.
Although SDA doctrine doesn't align with the majority of Christians, it doesn't mean that it isn't rational and reasonable. Anyway, you don't need to accept anything I have said. You say it's cookie cutter assumptions, I also see the same with your approach. Same old objections that have been answered. It is easy to latch on to points that seem to denounce ideas one doesn't wish to agree with. Your arguments can win a debate, but not a controversy. You say we twist, I would say the same of you. We go no where. 😅 I would just like you to be careful. SDA theology might be more robust than is superficially perceived although to many its not worth believing in because of unpleasant experiences and other reasons. Thank you for your time. May God help us find what we are looking for.
There is oy one Gospel & that is only found in the New Testament in the 4 Gospels. It was for the salvation of the lost sinners.
Corinthians 15:1-4 NKJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand,
2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,
Never given to us by angels but by the blood of Christ on the cross to all who believe.
What is a Protestant?
What is the "Council of Laodicea Canon law 29"? 364 A.D.
I can't find in the Bible where it says 7 years of tribulation from Genesis to the end of Revelations? Where in the Bible does it say exactly seven years of tribulation? Can someone help me?
Answering Adventism. Have rebutted jamie russell cmf yet. He has 41 videos answering your videos
Ive spent quite a bit of time over the last month dialoging with an SDA leader. They dont have answers. They run down rabbit holes instead of staying ON subject. Then, when they show their TOTAL LACK of bible knowledge, theyll send you to a video
For the record, The "time" and "name" of "Easter" for Christ's resurrection, is likewise "another Cursed gospel" in and of itself, and contrary to The Scriptures...
1 Cor. 15 : 1 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;"
1 Cor. 15 : 2 "By which also ye are saved, **IF** ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have Believed In Vain."
1 Cor. 15 : 3 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, How That Christ Died For Our Sins ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES;"
1 Cor. 15 : 4 "And that He was Buried, and that He Rose again the Third Day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES:"
Question: According To WHAT Scriptures?:
Isaiah 53... Psalm 22 ... Daniel 9 ... Hosea 6 : 1 - 2 ... Obviously, just to name a few...
But the elephant in the room that most of Christendom seems to ignore is:
The "Scripture" of Leviticus 23 : 4 - 14 !!!
Day #1 = Passover ( Death )
Day #2 = Feast Of Unleavened Bread ( Buried )
The 3RD DAY = FirstFruits ( Resurrection )
Even Paul agrees...
- 1 Cor. 5 : 7 "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For Even Christ Our PASSOVER Is Sacrificed For Us:
- 1 Cor. 5 : 8 "Therefore Let Us Keep The FEAST, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with THE UNLEAVENED BREAD of sincerity and truth.
- 1 Cor. 15 : 20 - 23 " But now is Christ RISED from the DEAD, and Become the FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also THE RESURRECTION of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ Shall All Be Made Alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's AT HIS COMING.
( See: Hosea 6 : 1 - 2 again, for Our "collective" "3rd day resurrection" )
What in the world does "Easter"/Eostre ( a pagan fertility sun-goddess ) and her pagan spring equinox festival, with it's superstitious rituals, have Anything to do with the Gospel Of Jesus Christ, and His Death, Burial, Resurrection on Third Day, ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES??? ... ( The Truth is, It Doesn't! )
Christ is Our PASSOVER LAMB ... NOT Our EASTER HAM! ( An Unholy Thing )
( Isaiah 53 : 7 ... John 1 : 29 ... Rev.13 : 8 ... Rev. 14 : 1 )
Acts 17 : 30 And the times of this Ignorance God Winked At; BUT NOW Commandeth All Men Every Where TO REPENT:
Heb. 10 : 26 "For if we Sin Wilfully AFTER That We Have Received the Knowledge Of The Truth, There Remaineth No More Sacrifice For Sins,"
Heb 10 : 27 "But a certain fearful looking for of Judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10 : 28 "He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10 : 29 "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath Trodden Under Foot The Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an Unholy Thing, and hath done Despite unto the Spirit of Grace?"
( Prayers for misguided SDA's, and also for you, and your ministry, as well... that We All will come into the knowledge and Belief of the full truth of YHWH God and His Son Jesus Christ, and dis-inherit the lies! Amen.. ( Jeremiah 16 : 19 )
@@rayray4192 ... You think mixing what is Holy with the profane are "great celebrations of Christ" from The Most High God? ...
The same God that cut the northern tribes of ancient Israel, and even Judah, off and out of the land, for doing the same things?
Better Think Again... (Read Deut 12 & Exod 23 : 13, Ezek. 22 )
@@mitchellosmer1293 .. The SDA'S have made Yah's Holy Feast Days (of Lev 23) null & void, along with nearly all the rest of Christendom.. Without THEM, in which points to Yeshua, you have no true Gospel...
The 4th Beast of Daniel thought to "change" - "times" & "laws" ( plural ) ...(Dan 7 : 25)
The weekly Shabbat is NOT the only "appointed time" of God that Rome has "changed".
This is the point.
@@mitchellosmer1293 ... Hello...and It's not just "my opinion", if it's a fact tho... The SDA's, as a "corporate church entity" has indeed gone along with the rest of most all of Christendom in making Yah's Feast Days null and void... But ironically, they still keep with the pagan-rooted festivals of the world, with the celebration of Xmas, The Janus New Year, Valentines Day, etc, contrary to the command of YHWH God from Deut 12...
... And if you are already well aware that The Beast of Daniel 7 : 25 has indeed "changed" the "time" of more than just God's weekly Sabbath, then i guess i'm not understanding your retort? ...
Of course, Yeshua's sacrifice/ death on the tree, was enough... That's why we don't need the blood of bulls and goats any longer... But His set-apart appointed "times" foreshadowing Messiah's 1st and 2nd Comings are still significant, in the worshipping of God in "spirit and in truth" upon them. (John 4 : 20 - 24 )
@@mitchellosmer1293 .. No sir... The Fall Feasts haven't been fulfilled yet! And won't be fully until Yeshua's 2nd Coming.. But we still "honor Yeshua" in The Spring Feasts for the "memorial" of His "death, burial, and resurrection" within them, "according to the scriptures".. ( 1 Cor. 15 : 1 - 4 ) ( .. and Not the "Good Friday" or "Easter" counterfeits of the Mother Church, but the actual "appointed Holy days" Exod 12 & Lev. 23 : 4 - 14 )... and we're not to let the unbelieving "Rabbinical Jew" or "gentile", "Judge Us" in this. ( Col. 2 : 16 - 17 ).. Just as we don't let them judge us in keeping of Yah's weekly Shabbat, and new moons/months of the biblical calendar.. or in observance of the "meat & drink" offering of Messiah upon them ( aka: "communion" John 6 : 53 - 57 )...
And God's Fall Feasts ( Lev. 23 : 24 - 44 ) are like "dress rehearsals" in anticipation for the "appointed time" for indeed when He Comes Again! ... When all God's People will say "HalleluYAH!!)
@AnsweringAdventism Just to add some clarity to the word "Gospel" which you have tagged, and rightly so, as "Good News".
The word Gospel comes from Old English "Godspel" which are two Old English words, "Gods" and "Spel" where in Old English the word Spel means Story or Message. The word God of course has not changed from Old English to our current English.
So the word Gospel in fact means "God's Message" or "God's Story".
This helps a lot in understanding exactly what the Gospel really is. How do we correctly read the words "The Gospel of Jesus Christ"? Well, Christ is just derived from the Greek for "the Anointed".
So it really means "God's Story of Jesus the Anointed" or you could say "God's Message of Jesus the Messiah" because Messiah is from the Hebrew for "the Anointed".
This is why I stand firmly on the words of Jesus who on the road to Emmaus clearly said:
In *all* the scriptures the things concerning Himself.
(My emphasis on the *all* because sadly it is so easily missed).
God's Message to humanity about the tremendously Good News.that was originally given by Jesus Himself when He stood in front of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and prophetically announced a promised one, a seed, a He, who would bruise the head of the serpent and himself be bruised by Satan.
It is the same one long battle that began long ago in Heaven, spilled over into Eden and continues to this day until the final day of Gods Judgement when He will destroy Satan for all time, root and branch. Satan the root, his followers the branches.
As an ex Adventist you will of course recognise this as the Great Controversy between God and Satan that has been running so far for at least 6,000 years.
Amen
Haystack 😂 I see what you did there
I found a way of debating SDAs on a public platform even if a SDA doesn't debate.
And I can attack the 1844, by using another subject.
I'm trying to debate one of the top 2 Kjv1611 onlyists on Daniel 8:14, and prove it's an error in translation. And I know I can 100%.
You can debate with Pastor Walter Veith, Pastor Doug Barchelor or Pastor Stephen Bohr. You might be fighting against God.
@@dennoggi587 Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that *unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. …. " That is said by EGW and taught by Adventism to undermine the coming of Christ, who "Unmistakenly" *IS THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD* , RATHER THAN A *SHADOW* (Col.2:16) WHICH *POINTS* TO GOD"
@@dennoggi587 , they are terrified to debate me. I am one of the best teachers and researchers on Daniel 8. I would crush them, they know it, that's why they refuse. If you can get them to debate me, I'd be thrilled
Adventist gospel is the the third Angel not The Gospel of our Lord Jesus
it is the gospel though🤔
As always Myles, an excellent presentation.
Hey brother,
It's not very Christian of you to make a channel on TH-cam and commit yourself 24 hours, consuming yourself with hatred and vengeance on the SDA, maybe you will wounded by somebody or something in the church but the Bible to forgive.
I don't think God would want anybody spreading spiteful information that is not true.
I hope and pray you can find something nice and constructive to do, that is not going to upset people, the SDA people that I go to church with you will never hear them talking like you are doing.
Elevator music and nonstop reading talk what ???
That God I'm subscribe to your Channel I found out about you thanks to Godlogic. My pastor is friends with a to a Seventh-day Adventist and the Saventh-day Adventist is saying that our beliefs are the same are yours keeping this Ministry going and that you so much.
Jesus did not preach to be dead to the law.
Mat 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Contrast this with paul!
Rom 7:6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
I dont know about you but there appears to be a different message on law being taught!
There is only one everlasting covenant/gospel made with mankind found in in the cross of Christ..this will always be proclaimed especially in the 3 angels messages final warnings before the return of Christ Jesus
The summary of Ellen G. Whites Controversy argument are thus concerning the Apostasy of the Apostolic Church from her book, in chapter 3.
1. The Apostle Paul and John warned that the Apostasy of the Church Christ instituted. And, that the apostasy of the Church along with the Apostles was going to happen and was already happening in 53AD and by 90AD, the Apostle John was already commanding people to "Come out the Church Christ instituted upon the Apostles, the prophets and Christ being the chief cornerstone. Thus, the "HER" and Harlot of Revelation 18 to EGW and Adventism is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the book of Revelation is begging all the Christians to leave the Church Christ died for and John, Paul and all the Apostles labored to bring into the "ONE Faith", ONE Body, the ONE Church to an end regardless of Christ promise to never leave it or the gates of hell prevail over it.
2. The falling away, was NOT those who left the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. but THOSE WHO REMAINED WITH the Apostolic Church Christ instituted was "fa 'ling away" . And, ONLY those who would LEAVE the Church would be saved, while those who followed in obedience to the Church would be lost.
3. The falling away in her mind described in 2Thess. 2:4 was caused by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church abandoning the enforcement of the Sabbath commandment upon the Gentiles. and that every Christian must become Jewish first, before claiming to be Christian and the claim of Cephas to be Pope.
4. Her claim was that Grace and faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit and the fruits of the Holy Spirit was and is not sufficient to keep a person from murdering or stealing..etc., thus the spirit of lawlessness. And, that only by the LAW of 10 commandments could keep people from sinning, not by the power of the Holy Spirit.
5. She also claimed that suddenly somewhere long before 325AD, the Catholic Church and THE POPE, who was the Vicar of Christ and no one in the entire known world protested. This was already occurring in 53AD when the Apostle Paul wrote 2ThessaIonians 2 while at the same time the Apostle Paul as calling the Pope "Cephas" meaning Rock. And, prior to that Christ named Him "Rock" from the moment Christ called him and so did every other Apostle who spoke the Aramaic language, as Christ and most of Judea at the time. Only those who DISOBEYED the Church could be saved in EGW's teaching.
6. Ellen G. White in writing claimed by the time of Constantine, AND THE POPE, and the entire known world of Christianity had faIlen away to join forces with the Pope and that was "The Great Falling Away" prophesied in 2Thess. 2:4 in 325AD , While at the same time teaching the Papacy didn't BEGIN until 538AD 217 years later.
7. In order to justify the claim that Peter was not the first Pope, she declared that Peter, whose proper name, "Cephas" in the Aramaic and "Peter" in the Greek means "Rock" , went to hell, when the "Gates of Hell prevailed against him" (Desire of the Ages)
8. For Ellen G. White, persecution and martyrdom of the Church was a good thing and the church living in peaceful times was deplorable. She would have preferred that the torture of the Christians continued than have peace.
9. In the end, Ellen G. White and the Adventist church teaches the Papacy didn't begin until 538AD according to their 1260 day prophecy, but that conflicts directly with their own writings which say the Papacy was already ruling in 325AD, which is 217 years or more. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of
10. Ellen G. White claimed that this "Angel" had showed her that Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself "above all that is ca 'led God, or that is worshiped." 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. "No such honor was given to the day by Christ or His apostles. *The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin in that "mystery of lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2:7. R.V.) which, EVEN in Paul's day, had begun its work. Chapter 3 of Great Controversy. Yet, there is no record of any "Controversy" about a change from the Sabbath to Sunday in the records of Church history. And, neither is there any controversy concerning Peter's place as the Rock Christ gave him. Acts 15-16:4 Clearly condemns the Judaizing of Christians and from then on every person who taught that the Gentiles were obligated to live as do the Jews, were called, "False brethren" and to be avoided.
11. EGW's and the Adventist's claim Christ (God himself in the flesh) could NOT and did not "Point mankind to the true and Living God" And, that only by Sabbath keeping could they come to know God, not by Christ alone as Saviour.
@@billclass5847 Revelation has zero to do with the body of Christ. There are over 600 references to the OT and Israel. Romans 11 Israel shall be restored. God will make Israel to do what he set them apart to do and that’s how we are also heirs, never promised a kingdom or land but will receive an inheritance not just eternal life.
The inheritance yes is eternal life which also includes a returning unto the land after the destruction of all the enemies of God. Both are conjoined as the promise of God. I order to have that accomplished death which is the last enemy is destroyed and sin eradicated so that the land sinless and everlasting…then sinless man will inherit it forever. This is the everlasting gospel and only done in Christ the seed. All in Christ are the promises made and those are the children of Abraham
@@billclass5847 You are the very person these vids are warning about. I know you can't see it but the truth is being taught here. It will help some get out of the SDA cult and prevent others from ever joining.
Romans 10:13 🙏
@@RandomTChance *Rev. 18:20 and the Martyrdom of Polycarp proves Adventism..etc., is false*
The Martyrdom of Polycarp (AD 117): Here's a direct quote
The *CHURCH* of God which sojourns at *Smyrna* (Rev. 2) , to the *CHURCH* of God sojourning in Philomelium, and to ALL the congregations of *the Holy and CATHOLIC CHURCH* in every place: Mercy, peace, and love from God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, be multiplied.
For, [Polycarp] having through patience overcome the unjust governor, and thus acquired the crown of immortality, *he NOW, with the apostles and all the righteous [in heaven], rejoicingly glorifies God, even the Father, and blesses our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour of our souls, the Governor of our bodies, and *the Shepherd of the *CATHOLIC CHURCH throughout the world* .[28] *(The placing of Polycarp's immortal soul in heaven after his martyrdom is exactly what we find in Revelation 18:20 with the Apostles and all the righteous)*
Notice how the author, says *Christ is the Shepherd of the Catholic Church THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WORLD" In other words, the entire Christian world in 117 AD understood 2 things:
1.That Christ was the Shepherd of the Catholic Church and
2.The doctrine of the immortality of the soul and teaching of the righteous souls went to heaven after the death of the body was taught by Christ and the Church *throughout the whole world!*
Another Adventist heresy on soul sleep and annihilationism bites the dust.
The problem I have if I could convince my family members and friends to give up on the SDA church where would they go? Just saying any church other than the SDA is not going to be good enough for them. My family members and most of my SDA friends would argue why would we quit our church and join some other lawless Christianity sec., where their doctrines differ so much and they pick and choose Gods laws that should and should not be followed. And I honestly don't know what to tell them. Maybe you guys could help me sale them on the one and only true Christ church who has it all 100% correct. My catholic friends and family would say they are the one and only true church. But again my Mormon friends would say that their the true church and southpark seem to agree. Lol. Anyway all helpful suggestions would be great, Thank you and God bless.
My humble opinion, is that John on Patmos... was not attending a weekly "service".
Not sure that Paul, who seemed to travel... was either. There is no elusive "right" church.
A church is simply an imperfect body of believers.
A "church" cannot & should not become an idol unto itself. -THE unique end-time church, is a cultic joke
No church, can save anyone. -Christ saves individuals, that respond to His voice
SDA Fundamental belief no. 1 CLAIMS scripture is the supreme, authoritative, and infallible revelation of God's will. -a great idea, that SDAs don't actually uphold
They will need to realize that the 7th Day Adventist church does not have any "truth" on it's shelves. -so, they sell other things
@@ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD Very well-thought-out response. Thank you.
They need to find a spiritually abusive informed therapist and even deprogramming from the mind control of SDA. Most SDA’s leave Christianity without help because they were never Christian to begin with. Christianity is foreign to them
The reality is there are lots of good Bible believing, gospel preaching churches in existence. As an Adventist I had no clue of this! I thought they were all just antinomians, word of faith, tongues speaking, and other such nonsense. In light of my misconceptions it seemed reasonable to be in the SDA Church, despite all of its issues. After all, nothing out there was any better, or so I thought. But then the Lord opened my eyes, and showed me such nonsense was not true. Since leaving Adventist I have frequently travelled around and ended up in different places from week to week. Almost always I can find a good Bible believing, gospel preaching church. Sometimes these churches are non-denominational, sometimes they are affiliated with one denomination or another. But in churches of different affiliations I have found that I could get good solid expository Bible preaching, and meaningful fellowship with brothers and sisters in Christ.
@@richardfoster5830 Thank you for sharing. Although I think some Adventist are not going to like some of the other churches doctrines over God laws. The different churches that I have attended growing up have vastly different views of the Ten commandments which is huge for the SDA. Some churches that I have attended or my friends have attended would say we are no longer under the law, other say we are, and some Churches have the commandments placed in different orders. Did you run into that problem when you left the SDA church?
Man there is a lot of confusion going on here and misinterpretation of SDA doctrinal beliefs. I’m concerned for the people who are being deceived by your videos. Well I suppose everyone has a duty to know what the Bible teaches and they will have to decide for themselves what to believe?
I have been raised SDA for over 20 years and I totally agree SDA teaches a FALSE gospel. Ellen White is a Fraud, not a prophet. So glad I have been delivered from this cult!
SDA teach the same gospel as the Methodist church. Wesley-Armenianism . This heretic Myles is a Calvinist.
Oh brother, you must be new here. Here we go again with trying to ride the coattails of Methodism lol
No, Methodists don’t have a great controversy worldview. But nice try trying to ride their coattails like Adventists have been trying to do for decades. Methodists are Christian. Adventism isn’t. Don’t tarnish their tradition to try and add legitimacy to yours.
@@answeringadventism no not new to your unbiblical heresy. i am a keen bible student and i can see though you false applications of scripture. you will not deceive me even on your best day.
As to Hebrew 6:19-20 yes Jesus certainly entered the entire sanctuary in AD31 through the veil into the Most Holy Place. Hebrews is clear on that. Not to begin the Day of Atonement but to Inaugurate the Temple. Just as Moses did as recorded in Numbers 7. Hebrews 9 is not about the day of
atonement but about the Inauguration of the sanctuary the transition from the Old covenant to the new covenant temple. Hebrews is clear on that too.
Yes i know its heresy just because you dont believe it or maybe havent heard it before.
Also if the Methodists do not have a Great Controversy world view that is irrelevant to the concept of Righteousness by faith. Nice try but a straw man arguement.
Yeah don't listen to that "cursed" gospel of the Three Angels in Bible in the book of Revelation. ahahaha
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Pointing to the phrase “three angels messages” and then inserting your guys erroneous interpretation into that doesn’t mean we are rejecting the Bible. It doesn’t say anything you guys claim. Just like every other apocalyptic cult does the exact same thing with the exact same book.
Mercy…
Adventists took Reformed Theology and raked off the nonsense. Like saying the law stands only the Sabbath is the day that Jesus actuallly made holy. Corrected the Limited Atonement, then realised God is not a Sadist, and kept Luther's truth that was discarded by his followers. Namely, "dead people aren't alive". You are welcome.
Wow that is quite false. Adventists in no way shape or form follow the teachings of John Calvin (Reformed Theology [see TULIP]).
Adventists are Armenian in origin and yes, from that some unbiblical parts are removed or clarified where unclear or badly put.
Fyi...
The disciples did not know the gospel that we have today. They did not live on the dispensation of grace.
What nonsense. Ellen G. White writes explicitly in Chapter 3 of the book Great Controversy, speaking of the time of Constantine in 325AD less than 200 years after Christ: *"THE GREAT APOSTATE HAD SUCCEEDED in exalting himself “above all that is called God, or that is worshiped.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. He (the Pope) had dared to change the only precept of the divine law that *unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living God.* (Great Controversy Chapter 3. …. " That is said by EGW and taught by Adventism to undermine the coming of Christ, who "Unmistakenly" *IS THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD* , RATHER THAN A *SHADOW*(Col.2:16)
"WHICH *POINTS* TO GOD" (Col.2:16)
@@billclass5847 the GC has over 82 plagiarized sources and and illustrations stolen. Sorry but God is not a thief and doesn’t use liars either. What excuses do you have for the “shut door” false visions?
@@billclass5847 Hi, not sure what the nonsense is?
Fact....the disciples did not live on the dispensation of grace.
Fact....the disciples followed jesus earthly ministry in the old covenant ten commandment law that had a righteousness of moses.
.Rom 10:5
For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Fact....Paul had new information from the risen christ of the righteousness apart from the law.
.Today our righteousness has nothing to do with the law, a different gospel!
Rom 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth
I have clearly stated righteousness's, you cant have both!!! which one do you have brother?
False!
“Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.”-Galatians 3:7-8 ESV
The same Gospel is what every single person in eternity is there because of. Dispensationalism is erroneous.
@@williamdecamp7343 lol....I dont follow ellen! She is a false prophet who taught a probationary salvation.
You need to go easy on SDA......because THEY ARE GOD'S TRUE CHURCH for these last days.
Check:
Ecclesiastes 12 :13,14.
James 2 :10 - 12
John 14:15
Mathew 15:9
Isaiah 8:16,20
Psalms 1
Revelation 22:14
Hebrews 10 :26.
1 John 3:4
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Now that was a good joke.
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*PLEASE COME WITH SCRIPTURES AND NOT OPINIONS*
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Go read my comment again
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*WOW, that is amazing!!!*
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Yes and God also said: *DON'T BE A GULLIBLE FOOL AND BE DECEIVED BY THE SDA CULT*
But apparently you have missed that part.
Thanks for opening my eyes to how the devil works to destroy us...can you share your definition of a cult? Simple and un-cut...?