Truth.... I am so Happy God has raised up men like Conrad Vine to guide his sheep, preparing us for the time of Trouble opening up before our very eyes. Praise , Glory, and Honor to our God and living King Jesus Christ! Amen
I am a 4th generation Australian who was baptised into the SDA movement in 1974 (yes a jubilee aspect) have seen many changes in our church's operation, policies and actions, but none like I witness right now, with it;s apathy, laziness, preferring only to conform to the anti-Christ's teaching & dogma! You have become an inspiration to me to realise, we can do more, take hold of ambitious programs (by simply believing our Lord, who called us to GO!) Nothing seems impossible / nothing can prevent his outreach, because if we accept his love , then our motivation is to share it? - Pastor Vine, , I thank you for conveying his words clearly to me! - Paul S/
The church tell in First World War in World War Two, the SDA church supported the nazi movement. Even today it says that you can be a member of the church and be in the Armed Forces and kill people. Imagine that, Adventist is killing Adventist. It’s no longer God’s church you may as well call at the seventh day Nazi church.
A lot of pastors I listen to once. Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly I listen to as often as I find one of their sermons. All the truth filled preachers find themselves in hot water. We are at war with evil, so this military antidote is appropriate. You can tell you are over the enemy when you are getting flack. Ron Kelly just got shot down, but he is not wounded. If you two are worth a dollar each to God, I am worth a dime or may be a nickle. God, help me deliver on a dime's worth for you and the gospel, you two an others like be blessed to be a hundred times more effective than you have been. Let Rome and what ever other major city's policy comes down, but may God's will that you become even more effective and popular than every before. J.L.Tucker, Quiet Hour radio, founder was let go from the ministry as unsuited, so he started Quiet Hour. How about it you two start TV channel? I'll put up $1000 start up, tens of thousands would be happy to do the same. Go for it Big Time.
Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to engrave the truth in your life. The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature-the surrender of self to the love of God, and man. May God continue to transform our Spirit, mind, soul and body. God bless you.
Conrad Vine uses Ellen White's comments to insinuate that his experience in the church is a similar journey of that of EGW. Their journey, however, is far from similar. Vine is constantly trying to undermine the church, thus creating division and projecting the focus on himself. His attitude has been that of pride and rebellion, a far cry from the humility that EGW emulated. Is Vine strengthening the pillars of our church or undermining it? When we study the life of Jesus , we see that even in the midst of mistreatment, He uttered not a word of complaint or doubt. Instead, Jesus focused on His relationship with His Heavenly Father. As we study the life of Ellen White, even in the midst of her mistreatment with the GC leaders, she accepted their decision with humility and quietly left the United States and temporarily moved to Australia. She didn't undermine the church but rather strengthened the church in Australia. And God blessed her ministry. The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. Does Vine have an attitude of self-justification or that of humility? Is he strengthening or weakening the church. The answer is yours.
Amen Amen Amen! This is an excellent sermon and the hierarchy of the organized church has over reached its place and is designed authority. I am a Bible Christian first who holds to the Bible and the testimony of Jesus alone. I dont need the approval of men or church hiarchy but only the approval of God alone. How fortunate brother Vine you are to be the front runner of this sifting and this important message.
@@catholic4sure976 to be a Bible, Spirit of Prophecy and God alone person? Oh my. It looks like I don't know my bible, either.... Please show me where the General Conference got elevated to the right hand of God, or above God, as the situation is with the papal claims? I have surely missed this in my studies. But I do know that heaven has spoken some extremely pointed words about some little men that got FAR TOO BIG for their halos, just like someone else we know who thought great thoughts about themselves. These are rare statements that the church hasn't been very diligent to promote, and for good reason. She could not bear the thought of them and they will not hear of it. But here they are, they say what they say: Ezekiel 28 describes the general movement, “broader significance” [Context: She is herein specifically talking about worldly principles being brought into the Seventh-day Adventist movement.] “I ask our people to study the 28th chapter of Ezekiel. The representation here made, while it refers primarily to Lucifer, the fallen angel, HAS A YET BROADER SIGNIFICANCE. Not one being, but A GENERAL MOVEMENT, IS DESCRIBED, AND ONE THAT WE SHALL WITNESS. A faithful study of this chapter should lead those who are seeking for truth to walk in all the light that God has given to His people, lest they be deceived by the deceptions of these last days” (SpTB17a 30.2). Israel’s experience will be repeated by Seventh-day Adventists “In His Word the Lord declared what He would do for Israel if they would obey His voice. But THE LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE YIELDED TO THE TEMPTATIONS OF SATAN, and God could not give them the blessings He designed them to have, because they did not obey His voice BUT LISTENED TO THE VOICE AND POLICY OF LUCIFER. THIS EXPERIENCE WILL BE REPEATED IN THE LAST YEARS OF THE HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD, who have been established by His grace and power. Men whom He has greatly honored WILL IN THE CLOSING SCENES OF THIS EARTH’S HISTORY PATTERN AFTER ANCIENT ISRAEL” (13MR 379.2).
@@catholic4sure976 What part Christ does not teach? Jesus was Jewish and He disagreed with religious leadership. Have you heard of "sola scriptura?" Study the KJV bible and put the Douay in the garbage and you won't be in the dark.
Pastor Vine truly you are a servant of God.. I wasn't vaccinated during vivid despite all the pressure in my workplace because I listen to pastors like you and Walter veith...
Praise to THEE HEAVENLY FATHER, praise to THEE CHRIST JESUS for making this sermon available to us, to me, in THY Holy name, CHRIST JESUS AMEN, AMEN, AND AMEN
Please come back to North Fork California we miss you and desire to continue the Protestant reformation. We need to be praying for you, Pastor Kelly and our leaders to have a peaceful agreement to surrender self and be reinstated for the sake of the gospel and the glory of God. Time to sigh and cry as Jesus, Moses and Daniel did for God’s people.
Amen, dear Father and thank You for raising up faithful servants. Please keep and guide them; pour more of Thy Spirit and stoke the fire Thou hast kindled in his heart. O save us/him at last, I pray Thee. Amen
This is true shepherding. Purposefully pointing the people of God to the son of God by taking the focus off the Adventist Church and placing it upon knowing Christ and rightfully so. Being an Adventist is secondary, as many of us would have met Christ outside of its walls.
“Adventists are in-vaccinated by long sermons”. - Oh yeah, they are, with all kinds of things😉. Thank you pastor Vine, it was an amazing awakening sermon❣️🙏❤️
Glory to God. I had missed this voice. Be blessed abundantly Dr. Vine. Do not be cowed you are a beacon in the darkness. Adventism sure lost its identity a while back. The alpha and Omega of apostasy are here
AMEN! Well said! Truth always triumph! 2 Corinthians 2:14, “Now thanks be unto GOD, which always causeth us to triumph in CHRIST and maketh manifest the Savior of His knowledge by us in every place.” History repeats itself! Romans 8:18, “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” The protest will continue until the very end! Let us use our GOD given talent/talents to shine for JESUS until He comes! Beth Ramos
Excellent (& accurate!), lecture/sermon/exposè on ecclesiastical history & the Bible… crucial to our understanding & discerning of humanity’s present & future. Highly informative & educational presentation by an intelligent, uncompromising erudite.
Amen HALLELUJAH. Thank You Lord Jesus Christ For Your Manservant. Please Continue To Cover Him With Your Precious Blood. Thank You Pastor Doctor Vine. I Am Always Praying For Every Steps You Take. God bless You And Your Family. 💓💓🙏🙏
Thank you Dr. Vine. Oh to have more men like you to give the word so clear . My heart is renewed as I am digging more into the word and seeking for a deeper filling of the Holy Spirit.
What does this word "Protestant" mean? It means protest against the burning or otherwise destroying of either the men or the writings of the men who are found to disagree in religion or faith with other men either in a church or a state. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.8} It means protest against arbitrary and unjust procedure of eccelesiastical [sic.] combines. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.9} It means protest against any denunciation or condemnation of men in their absence, and without their being heard. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.10} It means protest against any alliance or connection whatever between the ecclesiastical and the civil power. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.11} It means protest against any assertion or claim of any power or right of any majority in matters of religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.12} It means protest against any intrusion whatever of the civil power, under whatever plea, in any matter that in any way partakes of religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.13} It means protest against all arbitrary authority of the church under whatever form, name or claim. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.14} In this is means protest against any exercise of ecclesiastical authority or power in any other wise than only by the ministry of the word of God. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.15} It means protest against any restriction whatever, or any kind, on the full preaching of the word of God, even on "controverted points," to every creature everywhere and always. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.16} It means protest against any restriction whatever, of any kind, on the full and free exercise and enjoyment of the right of any individual at any time to embrace any doctrine that he may choose to believe. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.17} It proclaims and defends the full and complete liberty of every individual, himself alone. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.18} In this it proclaims and defends the perfect individuality of every soul. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.19} And in this it proclaims and defends the sole and complete responsibility of the individual soul to God only, in all things pertaining to religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.20} It rests in an proclaims the word of God alone, as in the Bible of the Old and New Testaments as all-sufficient in all things pertaining to religion and faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.21}
Such a Godly man…….hard to believe he has been cancelled. We are praying for you Pastor Vine and Pastor Kelly, and for our leaders who are not following the instructions in God’s word. 🙏
@@CharityGal don't be silly. We have all of this material on research disks containing all of the writing of Ellen G. White, the King James Bible, and the writings of the early figures in the development of the SdA message and establishment of the movement. These are from the writings of Alonzo T. Jones, a highly controversial figure in Adventism. There is a very rich history in all this. ATJ was treated very badly, along with his partner E. J. Waggoner. They ended up outside the denomination, but in the start, they brought a message from heaven that was rejected by the denomination and the denomination lies about that, today, saying they have accepted their message, but what they have accepted is another message and they are calling it the message of Jones and Waggoner. Ellen White sided with them, travelled and ministered with them for a period. If you are interested in all of this you can read books and you can read Ellen White, but the church won't tell it straight.
"Let us take our position as Seventh-day Adventists. The name is a true expression of our faith. I am instructed to call upon God’s people to bring their actions into harmony with their name, of which they have no need to be ashamed. The Seventh-day Adventist faith will bless whenever it is brought into the character building. {Lt128-1902} “CHRIST WAS A PROTESTANT. He protested against the formal worship of the Jewish nation, who rejected the counsel of God against themselves. He told them that they taught for doctrines the commandments of men, and that they were pretenders and hypocrites. Like whited sepulchers they were beautiful without, but within full of impurity and corruption. THE REFORMERS DATE BACK TO CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. R.H. June 1, 1886" Where are the protestants of today ??
Ellen G. White’s writings strongly emphasized unity within the Seventh-day Adventist Church, even in the face of disagreements, imperfections, or challenges. Based on her counsel, it is unlikely she would support efforts by any individual, including someone like Conrad Vine, to split off from the organized body of the church. She was unequivocal in her belief that the Adventist Church is God’s appointed means for spreading His message and that efforts to divide or disband the church are contrary to God’s will. Ellen White on Unity and Staying with the Church 1. The Church Is Not to Be Broken Apart: “God has a church, and it is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. ‘Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them’ (Matthew 18:20).” (The Upward Look, p. 315). However, she also warned against splitting the church into independent factions: “The Lord has not given you the work of tearing to pieces the church, the body of Christ. It is not wise to draw apart. You should seek to labor in harmony with others.” (Testimonies for the Church, Volume 9, p. 145). 2. Reforming, Not Abandoning: Ellen White often called for reform within the church but never advocated for abandoning it. She recognized the church’s imperfections but affirmed its divine calling: “The church, enfeebled and defective though it be, is the only object on earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.” (Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, p. 49). 3. Criticism and Splitting Off Lead to Confusion: She warned against those who sought to sow division or elevate their own understanding above the collective body of the church: “The Lord designs that the message of warning shall be carried to all parts of the world. This cannot be accomplished unless there is unity of action. The Lord cannot glorify His name through those who are self-centered. He has given to every man his work, and He requires cooperation.” (Testimonies for the Church, Volume 8, p. 174). On Separating from the Church Ellen White specifically spoke against labeling the church as fallen or Babylon, a sentiment sometimes used to justify splitting off: “To claim that the Seventh-day Adventist Church constitutes Babylon is to make a false claim. Some have said this, but this is not true.” (Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 63). She also discouraged forming independent movements outside of the organized body: “The divisions that are coming into our ranks will greatly retard the work that we are to do. Division is a tool of Satan to weaken the church and destroy its unity.” (Manuscript 32, 1908). What Ellen White Would Likely Say About Conrad Vine While Ellen White might agree with efforts to call for spiritual revival, personal accountability, and reform, she would likely be concerned if those efforts threatened the unity of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. If Conrad Vine’s actions include splitting off from the organized church, she would likely caution against it and appeal for patience, cooperation, and prayerful efforts to address concerns within the existing framework of the church. Her writings consistently promote the idea that reform and revival must happen within the church, not through breaking it apart. She would likely call for dialogue, humility, and a focus on the greater mission of sharing the gospel rather than allowing personal convictions to lead to division.
Yes, dialigue, which Conrad is very willing to do, but those in authority don't want to dialogue or follow due process, instead, they do this; they ban him. This is a liberty of concience issue nothing else.
Thank You So Much, for all You Stand up for. Just kinda want to Add something. Right around 51 minutes, you mentioned not looking for a Peasants revolt. During the time, when we have lost everything. We Should be a Peasant. Cut off from All Earthly support.
Well done The only problem the Lutheran and the rest of Christians church they sign the declaration with the Catholic Church, and the reformer are wrong That sad
It is funny....or sad really....but...while the bread and circus of Vine/Walter/Conference is going on....the world is burning. Sunday laws are right upon us.....famine is at our door....the church is asleep....and we are not walking with Jesus...or most are not...and don't know their probation is about to close....that is what is important....this mess is bread and circus.
If one looks at most Simonz or Simeons, they were dis inherited, the sorcerer of Acts 8, was a Simon Mag_- Pater another Barrabas, Judas was son of a Simon & despoiler of Mary Magdalene.
Super sermon. Bible and Bible alone. So why are you still using E G White? Is the Bible not enough given to us by God? EG White was not inspired by God because she stole from other authors/writers. The 8th commandment says clearly not to steel.
Do you revel in displaying cruel ignorance before the whole world? Why then do you not condemn the new testament with the religious leaders in the days of the apostles on the same assertions? And the writings of the prophets after the writings of the pentateuch as did the jews throughout their war against their Creator and Deliverer, on the same grounds? As tho God should leave His children, in times such as the whole world has never known, to play on the freeways of the modern world without special counsels, warnings, and Blessings. You need to study to show yourself approved by God, by testing the words of His precious and humble servant by the established Biblical prophets, and not by the jealous rantings of evil-seed singers all over the internet, and hoards of God-haters printing hoards of books to lasso sloppy readers from the numbers of the saints. And - The laws of citing others' writings in the days of Ellen White have been found in every case to be honest and fair. You might even read the introduction to the Great Controversy where she mentions using historical writings in the words of the authors when they were in harmony with the scenes as God had given them to her. You will do well also to study more closely the nature of the 9th Commandment. It's about "bearing false witness against your neighbor."
Conrad Vine uses Ellen White's comments to insinuate that his experience in the church is a similar journey of that of EGW. Their journey, however, is far from similar. Vine is constantly trying to undermine the church, thus creating division and projecting the focus on himself. His attitude has been that of pride and rebellion, a far cry from the humility that EGW emulated. Is Vine strengthening the pillars of our church or undermining it? When we study the life of Jesus , we see that even in the midst of mistreatment, He uttered not a word of complaint or doubt. Instead, Jesus focused on His relationship with His Heavenly Father. As we study the life of Ellen White, even in the midst of her mistreatment with the GC leaders, she accepted their decision with humility and quietly left the United States and temporarily moved to Australia. She didn't undermine the church but rather strengthened the church in Australia. And God blessed her ministry. The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. Does Vine have an attitude of self-justification or that of humility? Is he strengthening or weakening the church. The answer is yours.
For Ellen White, following the church leadership was crucial. She believed in the importance of church unity and the collective decision-making process. Her willingness to go to Australia, despite personal and health challenges, reflected her commitment to the church's mission and her trust in God's guidance through the church's decisions. This move also underscored her belief that God's work could prosper anywhere, and that her role was to support the church's mission wherever she was needed.
@@AgnelloAffonso-xp5gm good video But his assertion that Mary is the woman riding the beast is inaccurate The woman is the harlot church system riding the beast which is the state power Thus the church once again controlling the state
*The scriptures were never intended to be in the hands of the Protestants who are the fallen away spoken of in 2Thessalonians 2.* They refuse to hear and obey the church as Christ and the Apostles teach, therefore, they stumble at the word repeatedly. They make up their own doctrines, each one in conflict with the other and have no assurance of anything, except they have an "opinion" which is as worthless as the other millions. Thus, we find endless cults, false teachers, countless false prophets, all pretending to be something they are not, taking up the very scriptures that commands them to obey the Church and the bishops of the church and ignoring them, whereby they become ever learning and never able to come to the truth.
We need no mans authority to interpret the holy scriptures. Study to shew THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. {2 Timothy 2:15}
@@larrybedouin2921 You think 2Tim. 2:15 was said to you or to the Adventist church???? You all can't get the simplest things correct, my friend. The Protestants use of the word "Reformation" is nothing more than a WOKE version of the word, *"Rebellion"* Unfortunately, all of Protestantism uses sophistry to declare Christ is a false prophet. Then they teach you can trust their interpretation of the sacred scriptures.
You’re a mess Imagine being created by an all powerful God One who can speak all matter into existence And by His word all matter is maintained And this God has left the salvation of His most prized possession to sinful erring men No to mention The most hypocritical and evil of men Who in their very teachings make clear that Who they deem as a heretic They have the divine right to punish Look into the Inquisition And all that the papacy has done as result of this so called divine right of leadership It is a clearly satanic organization And it’s actions prove this to be so NO THANKS
Truth.... I am so Happy God has raised up men like Conrad Vine to guide his sheep, preparing us for the time of Trouble opening up before our very eyes. Praise , Glory, and Honor to our God and living King Jesus Christ! Amen
Ellen white says different. Pastors that uses levity in sermons are not called of God nor telling stories to get laughs.
Amen
Pastor Vines does not tell stories to get laughs. You sound stiff necked and ridiculous.
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@davidinchcliff4560 really, as if God never used humor ever? As if using humor is now a sin. Shalom
I am a 4th generation Australian who was baptised into the SDA movement in 1974 (yes a jubilee aspect) have seen many changes in our church's operation, policies and actions, but none like I witness right now, with it;s apathy, laziness, preferring only to conform to the anti-Christ's teaching & dogma! You have become an inspiration to me to realise, we can do more, take hold of ambitious programs (by simply believing our Lord, who called us to GO!) Nothing seems impossible / nothing can prevent his outreach, because if we accept his love , then our motivation is to share it? - Pastor Vine, , I thank you for conveying his words clearly to me! - Paul S/
The church tell in First World War in World War Two, the SDA church supported the nazi movement. Even today it says that you can be a member of the church and be in the Armed Forces and kill people. Imagine that, Adventist is killing Adventist. It’s no longer God’s church you may as well call at the seventh day Nazi church.
We keep you (Brother Conrad Vine) & brother/pastor Ron Kelly in our prayers.
A lot of pastors I listen to once. Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly I listen to as often as I find one of their sermons. All the truth filled preachers find themselves in hot water. We are at war with evil, so this military antidote is appropriate. You can tell you are over the enemy when you are getting flack. Ron Kelly just got shot down, but he is not wounded. If you two are worth a dollar each to God, I am worth a dime or may be a nickle. God, help me deliver on a dime's worth for you and the gospel, you two an others like be blessed to be a hundred times more effective than you have been. Let Rome and what ever other major city's policy comes down, but may God's will that you become even more effective and popular than every before. J.L.Tucker, Quiet Hour radio, founder was let go from the ministry as unsuited, so he started Quiet Hour. How about it you two start TV channel? I'll put up $1000 start up, tens of thousands would be happy to do the same. Go for it Big Time.
We pray for you Dr. Vine to be strong enough against the deceptions among us all now. The deceptions to us are very strong.
Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to engrave the truth in your life.
The greatest want of the world is the want of men-men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.
But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature-the surrender of self to the love of God, and man.
May God continue to transform our Spirit, mind, soul and body.
God bless you.
Conrad Vine uses Ellen White's comments to insinuate that his experience in the church is a similar journey of that of EGW. Their journey, however, is far from similar. Vine is constantly trying to undermine the church, thus creating division and projecting the focus on himself. His attitude has been that of pride and rebellion, a far cry from the humility that EGW emulated. Is Vine strengthening the pillars of our church or undermining it? When we study the life of Jesus , we see that even in the midst of mistreatment, He uttered not a word of complaint or doubt. Instead, Jesus focused on His relationship with His Heavenly Father. As we study the life of Ellen White, even in the midst of her mistreatment with the GC leaders, she accepted their decision with humility and quietly left the United States and temporarily moved to Australia. She didn't undermine the church but rather strengthened the church in Australia. And God blessed her ministry. The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. Does Vine have an attitude of self-justification or that of humility? Is he strengthening or weakening the church. The answer is yours.
@@LILU-y5vmaybe you should pray that Jesus gives you eyes to hear what Pastor Vines is saying. It’s certainly not what you’re hearing.
@jennybarrionuevo6428 - Amen, so well said🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Amen Amen Amen! This is an excellent sermon and the hierarchy of the organized church has over reached its place and is designed authority. I am a Bible Christian first who holds to the Bible and the testimony of Jesus alone. I dont need the approval of men or church hiarchy but only the approval of God alone. How fortunate brother Vine you are to be the front runner of this sifting and this important message.
Amen!
That isn't what the scripture or what Christ taught, my friend.
@@catholic4sure976 to be a Bible, Spirit of Prophecy and God alone person? Oh my. It looks like I don't know my bible, either.... Please show me where the General Conference got elevated to the right hand of God, or above God, as the situation is with the papal claims? I have surely missed this in my studies.
But I do know that heaven has spoken some extremely pointed words about some little men that got FAR TOO BIG for their halos, just like someone else we know who thought great thoughts about themselves. These are rare statements that the church hasn't been very diligent to promote, and for good reason. She could not bear the thought of them and they will not hear of it. But here they are, they say what they say:
Ezekiel 28 describes the general movement, “broader significance”
[Context: She is herein specifically talking about worldly principles being brought into the Seventh-day Adventist movement.]
“I ask our people to study the 28th chapter of Ezekiel. The representation here made, while it refers primarily to Lucifer, the fallen angel, HAS A YET BROADER SIGNIFICANCE. Not one being, but A GENERAL MOVEMENT, IS DESCRIBED, AND ONE THAT WE SHALL WITNESS. A faithful study of this chapter should lead those who are seeking for truth to walk in all the light that God has given to His people, lest they be deceived by the deceptions of these last days” (SpTB17a 30.2).
Israel’s experience will be repeated by Seventh-day Adventists
“In His Word the Lord declared what He would do for Israel if they would obey His voice. But THE LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE YIELDED TO THE TEMPTATIONS OF SATAN, and God could not give them the blessings He designed them to have, because they did not obey His voice BUT LISTENED TO THE VOICE AND POLICY OF LUCIFER. THIS EXPERIENCE WILL BE REPEATED IN THE LAST YEARS OF THE HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD, who have been established by His grace and power. Men whom He has greatly honored WILL IN THE CLOSING SCENES OF THIS EARTH’S HISTORY PATTERN AFTER ANCIENT ISRAEL” (13MR 379.2).
@@catholic4sure976 What part Christ does not teach? Jesus was Jewish and He disagreed with religious leadership. Have you heard of "sola scriptura?" Study the KJV bible and put the Douay in the garbage and you won't be in the dark.
Easily said! Im waiting for you to tell me.then what is it that He taught????@catholic4sure976
This message needs to be preached in Lutheran congregations!
I love listening to him. His knowledge of history and how it repeats itself. May God be with us
Pastor Vine truly you are a servant of God.. I wasn't vaccinated during vivid despite all the pressure in my workplace because I listen to pastors like you and Walter veith...
And most of all your convicted by the Holy Spirit 🙏🏾
Good decision ..I hated the very sound of it.
Praise to THEE HEAVENLY FATHER, praise to THEE CHRIST JESUS for making this sermon available to us, to me, in THY Holy name, CHRIST JESUS
AMEN, AMEN, AND AMEN
This Powerful Sermon Truths Must Reveals Thank You Holy Spirit Our Pastor C V And Media ❤Amen.
He's sending a strong messages of truth.
Thank you for being brave enough to stand for truth. May God continue to bless you & Pastor Kelly & keep you men in His loving care 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Please come back to North Fork California we miss you and desire to continue the Protestant reformation. We need to be praying for you, Pastor Kelly and our leaders to have a peaceful agreement to surrender self and be reinstated for the sake of the gospel and the glory of God. Time to sigh and cry as Jesus, Moses and Daniel did for God’s people.
Beautiful Sermon and so timely in today's world. Thank you
Amen, dear Father and thank You for raising up faithful servants. Please keep and guide them; pour more of Thy Spirit and stoke the fire Thou hast kindled in his heart. O save us/him at last, I pray Thee. Amen
Pastor Conrad, Jesus is on side, don’t be afraid of Them. Those that are with You are more than those that are against You. God bless You, be strong 💪
Amen!
Need not to worry Dr Vine,God is in control,no one can touch you , unless agreed both by the Lord.Truth can't be stopped,men died for it.
May God bless pastor Conrad Vine.
Thank you for preaching the truth!
A good timely word that we may be ready.
So very blessed by this Bro Conrad. Be blessed!
This is true shepherding. Purposefully pointing the people of God to the son of God by taking the focus off the Adventist Church and placing it upon knowing Christ and rightfully so. Being an Adventist is secondary, as many of us would have met Christ outside of its walls.
The more pure in faith you are Conrad, the more people
God will be able to reach
Thank you for preaching truth. 1:08:14
My favorite thing to do on Sabbath is to find Conrad Vine on TH-cam and be thoroughly BLESSED.
Thank You, QTtv Media for your quality content ♥
May God be with and Pastor Kelly
“Adventists are in-vaccinated by long sermons”. - Oh yeah, they are, with all kinds of things😉.
Thank you pastor Vine, it was an amazing awakening sermon❣️🙏❤️
Glory to God. I had missed this voice. Be blessed abundantly Dr. Vine. Do not be cowed you are a beacon in the darkness. Adventism sure lost its identity a while back. The alpha and Omega of apostasy are here
AMEN! Well said! Truth always triumph!
2 Corinthians 2:14, “Now thanks be unto GOD, which always causeth us to triumph in CHRIST and maketh manifest the Savior of His knowledge by us in every place.”
History repeats itself!
Romans 8:18, “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”
The protest will continue until the very end!
Let us use our GOD given talent/talents to shine for JESUS until He comes! Beth Ramos
Amen, Praise God for this message I needed it🙏🏻
Amen!
Powerful, Pastor Vine. A word so needed today
Thank you. God's blessing upon you.
Love your faith
Amen, Amen!!! Help us JESUS!!!!
Thank you for the inspiration which your sermon has brought to me. God bless you.
Good message
Excellent (& accurate!), lecture/sermon/exposè on ecclesiastical history & the Bible… crucial to our understanding & discerning of humanity’s present & future. Highly informative & educational presentation by an intelligent, uncompromising erudite.
Very good
Amen HALLELUJAH. Thank You Lord Jesus Christ For Your Manservant. Please Continue To Cover Him With Your Precious Blood. Thank You Pastor Doctor Vine. I Am Always Praying For Every Steps You Take. God bless You And Your Family. 💓💓🙏🙏
Powerful message.
These you go preaching the truth
Thank you Dr. Vine. Oh to have more men like you to give the word so clear . My heart is renewed as I am digging more into the word and seeking for a deeper filling of the Holy Spirit.
Amen
There are a lot of these men taking sections of members who will listen to them. I'm staying put and listening to no one, but THE WORD
The persecution from our church is to train us and prepare us for the greater persecution from Babylon.
When you work for other’s salvation you deny self abs sacrifice self for the good of others, you esteem others above yourself! Plus you get blessed!
What does this word "Protestant" mean?
It means protest against the burning or otherwise destroying of either the men or the writings of the men who are found to disagree in religion or faith with other men either in a church or a state. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.8}
It means protest against arbitrary and unjust procedure of eccelesiastical [sic.] combines. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.9}
It means protest against any denunciation or condemnation of men in their absence, and without their being heard. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.10}
It means protest against any alliance or connection whatever between the ecclesiastical and the civil power. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.11}
It means protest against any assertion or claim of any power or right of any majority in matters of religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.12}
It means protest against any intrusion whatever of the civil power, under whatever plea, in any matter that in any way partakes of religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.13}
It means protest against all arbitrary authority of the church under whatever form, name or claim. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.14}
In this is means protest against any exercise of ecclesiastical authority or power in any other wise than only by the ministry of the word of God. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.15}
It means protest against any restriction whatever, or any kind, on the full preaching of the word of God, even on "controverted points," to every creature everywhere and always. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.16}
It means protest against any restriction whatever, of any kind, on the full and free exercise and enjoyment of the right of any individual at any time to embrace any doctrine that he may choose to believe. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.17}
It proclaims and defends the full and complete liberty of every individual, himself alone. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.18}
In this it proclaims and defends the perfect individuality of every soul. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.19}
And in this it proclaims and defends the sole and complete responsibility of the individual soul to God only, in all things pertaining to religion or faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.20}
It rests in an proclaims the word of God alone, as in the Bible of the Old and New Testaments as all-sufficient in all things pertaining to religion and faith. {January 14, 1913 ATJ, ATAP 3.21}
PLEASE DON'T ABBREVIATE TITLES OF BOOKS OR WHATEVER ATJ, ATAP STAND FOR! That is what cults do!
@@CharityGal😂
Such a Godly man…….hard to believe he has been cancelled. We are praying for you Pastor Vine and Pastor Kelly, and for our leaders who are not following the instructions in God’s word. 🙏
I remember ATJ stands for Alonso T Jones, but I don't remember the book name
@@CharityGal don't be silly. We have all of this material on research disks containing all of the writing of Ellen G. White, the King James Bible, and the writings of the early figures in the development of the SdA message and establishment of the movement. These are from the writings of Alonzo T. Jones, a highly controversial figure in Adventism. There is a very rich history in all this. ATJ was treated very badly, along with his partner E. J. Waggoner. They ended up outside the denomination, but in the start, they brought a message from heaven that was rejected by the denomination and the denomination lies about that, today, saying they have accepted their message, but what they have accepted is another message and they are calling it the message of Jones and Waggoner. Ellen White sided with them, travelled and ministered with them for a period. If you are interested in all of this you can read books and you can read Ellen White, but the church won't tell it straight.
Amen! 🙏❤❤👍
Wonderful, just that nothing new under the sun.. SOLOMON KNEW.
Miss you pastor
"Let us take our position as Seventh-day Adventists. The name is a true expression of our faith. I am instructed to call upon God’s people to bring their actions into harmony with their name, of which they have no need to be ashamed. The Seventh-day Adventist faith will bless whenever it is brought into the character building. {Lt128-1902}
“CHRIST WAS A PROTESTANT. He protested against the formal worship of the Jewish nation, who rejected the counsel of God against themselves. He told them that they taught for doctrines the commandments of men, and that they were pretenders and hypocrites. Like whited sepulchers they were beautiful without, but within full of impurity and corruption. THE REFORMERS DATE BACK TO CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES. They came out and separated themselves from a religion of forms and ceremonies. R.H. June 1, 1886"
Where are the protestants of today ??
The division is coming from the Michigan Conference, not Conrad Vine.
Who is the accuser against the church and organization? You got the wrong target.
You are in deed a modern day Luther.
Ellen G. White’s writings strongly emphasized unity within the Seventh-day Adventist Church, even in the face of disagreements, imperfections, or challenges. Based on her counsel, it is unlikely she would support efforts by any individual, including someone like Conrad Vine, to split off from the organized body of the church. She was unequivocal in her belief that the Adventist Church is God’s appointed means for spreading His message and that efforts to divide or disband the church are contrary to God’s will.
Ellen White on Unity and Staying with the Church
1. The Church Is Not to Be Broken Apart:
“God has a church, and it is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. ‘Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them’ (Matthew 18:20).”
(The Upward Look, p. 315).
However, she also warned against splitting the church into independent factions:
“The Lord has not given you the work of tearing to pieces the church, the body of Christ. It is not wise to draw apart. You should seek to labor in harmony with others.”
(Testimonies for the Church, Volume 9, p. 145).
2. Reforming, Not Abandoning:
Ellen White often called for reform within the church but never advocated for abandoning it. She recognized the church’s imperfections but affirmed its divine calling:
“The church, enfeebled and defective though it be, is the only object on earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.”
(Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, p. 49).
3. Criticism and Splitting Off Lead to Confusion:
She warned against those who sought to sow division or elevate their own understanding above the collective body of the church:
“The Lord designs that the message of warning shall be carried to all parts of the world. This cannot be accomplished unless there is unity of action. The Lord cannot glorify His name through those who are self-centered. He has given to every man his work, and He requires cooperation.”
(Testimonies for the Church, Volume 8, p. 174).
On Separating from the Church
Ellen White specifically spoke against labeling the church as fallen or Babylon, a sentiment sometimes used to justify splitting off:
“To claim that the Seventh-day Adventist Church constitutes Babylon is to make a false claim. Some have said this, but this is not true.”
(Selected Messages, Book 2, p. 63).
She also discouraged forming independent movements outside of the organized body:
“The divisions that are coming into our ranks will greatly retard the work that we are to do. Division is a tool of Satan to weaken the church and destroy its unity.”
(Manuscript 32, 1908).
What Ellen White Would Likely Say About Conrad Vine
While Ellen White might agree with efforts to call for spiritual revival, personal accountability, and reform, she would likely be concerned if those efforts threatened the unity of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. If Conrad Vine’s actions include splitting off from the organized church, she would likely caution against it and appeal for patience, cooperation, and prayerful efforts to address concerns within the existing framework of the church.
Her writings consistently promote the idea that reform and revival must happen within the church, not through breaking it apart. She would likely call for dialogue, humility, and a focus on the greater mission of sharing the gospel rather than allowing personal convictions to lead to division.
Yes, dialigue, which Conrad is very willing to do, but those in authority don't want to dialogue or follow due process, instead, they do this; they ban him.
This is a liberty of concience issue nothing else.
Conrad is now the new messiah. 50yrs from now I wonder what will be the name pastor this or that
@@marjoriefortney1136 that's not true. this is about personal preferences. not a liberty of conscience
@@cooldad467 That's Conrad's problem. It's obvious that Conrad doesn't lead people to Jesus but to himself.
King John - The Magna Carta - Ross Poirot and "Dallas."
Thank You So Much, for all You Stand up for.
Just kinda want to Add something.
Right around 51 minutes, you mentioned not looking for a Peasants revolt. During the time, when we have lost everything. We Should be a Peasant. Cut off from All Earthly support.
Amen and Amen.
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Recreating the post-flood world under Nimrod, in order to recreate the pre-flood times of Noah.
Well done
The only problem the Lutheran and the rest of Christians church they sign the declaration with the Catholic Church, and the reformer are wrong
That sad
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Bible alone!
Watching this a second time …. Also am I the only one that seen the rat go by🧐. 😅
I thought I saw a dog at the beginning, unless it was a really big rat. Where is he preaching out anyway?
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Someone did not enter birth years correctly. Pope Innocent III was born in 1160, not 1198. King John was born in 1166, not 1199.
I will translate it into Italian
When and where was this preached, can somebody tell us?
At the D'Sozo Campmeeting in October 2024. Hope this helps! Blessings.
Try not to know don't. This is a big mess
It is funny....or sad really....but...while the bread and circus of Vine/Walter/Conference is going on....the world is burning. Sunday laws are right upon us.....famine is at our door....the church is asleep....and we are not walking with Jesus...or most are not...and don't know their probation is about to close....that is what is important....this mess is bread and circus.
He said Peter was the pope is he referring to Peter the disciple??
No
If one looks at most Simonz or Simeons, they were dis inherited, the sorcerer of Acts 8, was a Simon Mag_- Pater another Barrabas, Judas was son of a Simon & despoiler of Mary Magdalene.
Super sermon. Bible and Bible alone. So why are you still using E G White? Is the Bible not enough given to us by God? EG White was not inspired by God because she stole from other authors/writers. The 8th commandment says clearly not to steel.
Do you revel in displaying cruel ignorance before the whole world?
Why then do you not condemn the new testament with the religious leaders in the days of the apostles on the same assertions? And the writings of the prophets after the writings of the pentateuch as did the jews throughout their war against their Creator and Deliverer, on the same grounds? As tho God should leave His children, in times such as the whole world has never known, to play on the freeways of the modern world without special counsels, warnings, and Blessings.
You need to study to show yourself approved by God, by testing the words of His precious and humble servant by the established Biblical prophets, and not by the jealous rantings of evil-seed singers all over the internet, and hoards of God-haters printing hoards of books to lasso sloppy readers from the numbers of the saints.
And -
The laws of citing others' writings in the days of Ellen White have been found in every case to be honest and fair. You might even read the introduction to the Great Controversy where she mentions using historical writings in the words of the authors when they were in harmony with the scenes as God had given them to her.
You will do well also to study more closely the nature of the 9th Commandment. It's about "bearing false witness against your neighbor."
Conrad Vine uses Ellen White's comments to insinuate that his experience in the church is a similar journey of that of EGW. Their journey, however, is far from similar. Vine is constantly trying to undermine the church, thus creating division and projecting the focus on himself. His attitude has been that of pride and rebellion, a far cry from the humility that EGW emulated. Is Vine strengthening the pillars of our church or undermining it? When we study the life of Jesus , we see that even in the midst of mistreatment, He uttered not a word of complaint or doubt. Instead, Jesus focused on His relationship with His Heavenly Father. As we study the life of Ellen White, even in the midst of her mistreatment with the GC leaders, she accepted their decision with humility and quietly left the United States and temporarily moved to Australia. She didn't undermine the church but rather strengthened the church in Australia. And God blessed her ministry. The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. Does Vine have an attitude of self-justification or that of humility? Is he strengthening or weakening the church. The answer is yours.
The conference is not the church. He speaks against the conferences not the church. God bless Conrad Vine.
@@amybob116 I assume you are not a seventh-day adventist. If so, that's how Conrad vine teaches?
For Ellen White, following the church leadership was crucial. She believed in the importance of church unity and the collective decision-making process. Her willingness to go to Australia, despite personal and health challenges, reflected her commitment to the church's mission and her trust in God's guidance through the church's decisions. This move also underscored her belief that God's work could prosper anywhere, and that her role was to support the church's mission wherever she was needed.
@@amybob116 Conrat speaks against the conference and the church...you both are dead wrong. Both are working against God's true church.
Stop making Conrad vine like he's gods gift to the church because man a star will lose their brilliance
Are you trying to take away our freedom? Sure sounds like it!
No one ever said or acts like Pastor Vine is Gods gift to the SDA Church!! What a terrible thing to say.
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28 (KJV)
@@Ann1234 I agree I hope he changes his view on Ted Wilson because he's looking and sounding deceived by him and deceiving others
@@walteroneill7217let no man deceive you the shaking will separate the fools from the chosen
WATCH A WOMAN RIDES TH BEAST, BY RIP DAVE HUNT BOOK TOO
@@AgnelloAffonso-xp5gm good video
But his assertion that Mary is the woman riding the beast is inaccurate
The woman is the harlot church system riding the beast which is the state power
Thus the church once again controlling the state
*The scriptures were never intended to be in the hands of the Protestants who are the fallen away spoken of in 2Thessalonians 2.* They refuse to hear and obey the church as Christ and the Apostles teach, therefore, they stumble at the word repeatedly. They make up their own doctrines, each one in conflict with the other and have no assurance of anything, except they have an "opinion" which is as worthless as the other millions. Thus, we find endless cults, false teachers, countless false prophets, all pretending to be something they are not, taking up the very scriptures that commands them to obey the Church and the bishops of the church and ignoring them, whereby they become ever learning and never able to come to the truth.
Are you cotton? It are you putting the Adventist church in the place of Catholicism?
You are absolutely right! THE CHURCH is actually the mother of all CULTS. THE CHURCH claimed to be a christian but actually a pagan religion.
We need no mans authority to interpret the holy scriptures.
Study to shew THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
{2 Timothy 2:15}
@@larrybedouin2921 You think 2Tim. 2:15 was said to you or to the Adventist church???? You all can't get the simplest things correct, my friend. The Protestants use of the word "Reformation" is nothing more than a WOKE version of the word, *"Rebellion"* Unfortunately, all of Protestantism uses sophistry to declare Christ is a false prophet. Then they teach you can trust their interpretation of the sacred scriptures.
You’re a mess
Imagine being created by an all powerful God
One who can speak all matter into existence
And by His word all matter is maintained
And this God has left the salvation of His most prized possession to sinful erring men
No to mention
The most hypocritical and evil of men
Who in their very teachings make clear that
Who they deem as a heretic
They have the divine right to punish
Look into the
Inquisition
And all that the papacy has done as result of this so called divine right of leadership
It is a clearly satanic organization
And it’s actions prove this to be so
NO THANKS
You have no Idea how ERRONOUS YOUR OPINION IS DOES UR GOD NOT ABLE TO GIVE U D SPIRIT OF THE TRUE GOD TO DISCERN? THE TRUTH TO ERRORS?
Amen
Amen
Amen