Tbh the fact they said in their own words that there’s “patented noise suppression algorithm we apply non-destructive analysis of the preamp noise to the audio signal, essentially eliminating all noise on the preamp.” Then they tell you there is no noise suppression lol. So which is it. They lying or don’t want to admit it could be or is their fault lol 😅. Even if I’m the end for most people this won’t matter to much for most content creators, you are still giving an objective perspective and testing on different types of scenarios and mics which is always useful to know. The only issue is them lying about it sadly 😢when even they themselves advertise it on their site as noise suppression at the preamp level
I'm probably still going to get it. Not a big audio person and the ease of use with the software for streaming is exactly what I need once I upgrade to a 2 pc streaming setup.
Its not a gamechanger because it has the same features as the years old Presonus Revelator series, but a bit worse - they also have OBS integration, studio one integration and a more comprehensive chain. Theyre selling out the io44 for $80, probably worth grabbing one as a comparison, its main problem is it uses a CS4270 ADDA which isnt true balanced so despite the balanced pre its a bit noise prone, notably also prone to ultrasonic interference issues from its cut down filter.
Personally I do like the Beacn EQ...but I guess that all comes down to taste. I also prefer the routing of Beacn. Presonus did a great job as well though
@@DarkCornerStudios For $80 it was a bit of a no-brainer for streaming ease despite my multichannel interfaces. Not that i particularly like Presonus as a company but theyre decent value, if a lil hit or miss. I think you have the Eris 5 Monitors too? Just ridiculous for the money.
@@nickglover such a stupid place on a $200 interface to save $5 at most over a CS4272 which would have been fine - they powered Scarlett G1-3 and sill power the Behringers among others.
Phenomenal. Thankyou sir, you've Just saved me $450 AUD. Thanks for taking the time to do such a detailed review and intellectually respond to Beacn themselves. Much respect
I don't get it. Where's the problem for BEACN to add a off switch in the app for the (way to harsh) gate? One question: Do you get a EQ for the monitor out?
Great video! Unfortunately, we live in a time where the hypothetical mindset is not acceptable. A product may be designed for 'live streamers" doesn't mean every "live streamer" needs to support its design. You proved they misrepresented the specs, it doesn't mean you're telling everyone to boycott the product. What works for some doesn't work for all.
Removing the noise suppression with a firmware update (if possible) and adding a simple check box in the software for said "built-in suppression algorythm" would be a huge update and also redeem Beacn IMO. Off topic: I have considered this device as Elgato locks out Wavelink if you plug in a 2nd Wave device to the same PC. (e.g. I have a Wave XLR & XLR Dock for my Stream Deck+ with a mic on each and while Wavelink only allows one registered wave device in Wavelink, it literally doesn't work with even 1 device with 2 devices plugged in. Bummer. 3rd party software or 3rd party hardware shouldn't be necessary.)
Do you have a recommendation for someone in the market to ease up their splitting for audio in a dual PC setup if the Beacn studio didn't live up to the hype? Asking as I've been saving up to try and get something better than my current setup and I finally got to the point of being able to purchase one but newer reviews aren't giving me a lot of reassurance in the Beacn Studio. My goal is to figure out how to simplify my audio setup as much as possible. Right now my setup is as follows: Mic: Blue Ember Mixer: Mackie Mix 5 which uses a splitter to go to both computers (bought this on a budget and is the piece I'm looking to upgrade / replace) Voicemeeter Potato: To split audio (excluding mic) to a HD60X from my main PC to my stream PC Voicemeeter Potato: Using VBAN to send audio from the stream PC back to my main PC for alerts and such I honestly don't know a ton about audio and learning audio has been a painfully slow. I don't need studio quality but I'd like it to be as simple and painless as possible as its my Achilles heel the entire time I've made any sort of content. It just never sounds right to me but I never know how to actually improve it.
I gotta say here, I was so sold on this after watching the Senpai Gaming video, but didn't see your video and it well, validated the feelings I had when I actually picked this up. For one, it's a super cheap feeling plastic device, the cables wiggle when you plug them in, it's just all-around cheap feeling. For $250 that's a huge bummer. I was sold on the software, but you can feel deeply that the hardware got the back seat, which doesn't feel great. They should just be a software company, not a hardware company. Though that said, I'm on a MacBook Air, and their software isn't even recognizing that the unit is plugged in, I can't get anything to even work, and thus, it's literally a brick at the moment. The sad part is, even if it did work and the software was amazing, I just can't get over how cheap feeling this is. Not worth what we paid. Going to return it for certain. I'm just feeling conflicted right now and well, sad. No idea what to get now.
@@DarkCornerStudios Just spent another 4 hours watching reviews and... I think I've landed on the Roadcaster Duo. I'm going to take the leap, also just confirmed that the BEACN software doesn't even support the BEACN Studio on MacOS right now... Just checked their Discord, totally baffled. Anyway, all of that to be said, I've initiated a return and will give the Duo a shot. Appreciate your authenticity and transparency, subscribed!
First of all this is what I love about your channel it’s straight forward and not just about the good things, though I might not always agree I respect your opinion. I was a bit sceptical of the beacon because Harris had praised it (not to say he’s a bad person or anything) but he has a tendency to promote and praise certain products and companies, so I’m glad you got to review it. Secondly I saw a lot of people commenting that they liked the permanent gate because of their untreated room, and I just want to point to those people who heavily use a gate, that using a gate in a untreated room or a noisy environment is often counterproductive.
Even in a quiet space...a gate can do some wonky things. The sonic experience of a gate in a loud room though is one of the worst listening experiences a person can have
I have one question that you or hopefully someone can tell me. The BEACN Studio works on PS5 but I was wondering if it is possible to get the processed mic effects through the app to get sent to the PS5 versus just a raw audio signal? Either through onboard memory or by having it connected to a pc at the same time as it being plugged into the console.
Speaking of trust, I must say, that there are very few audio tech reviewers that I do trust. But even out of these few you definitely are the most honest one and I appreciate that a lot. Thank you very much for being honest with us as a community and for proving time and time again that the trust I and many others put into you is definitely deserved.
Great review both videos. I think the issue with this Beacn unit is its price. Its hardware quality is fine for the budget market. The effort in fixing it with pugins, no matter how good some things cant be polished for a premium, even with intuitive code. Hats off to the software engineers maybe beacon bean counters will allow their software to be shiped with better hardware. Then again the buisness model is to take poor hardware and polish it with code, and pull the he wool over a target audience that don't know better. Edit: If this was marketed to sound professionals they wouldnt sell any.
Hey, Hope the day finds you well. So I watched both videos (Thank you for making them) Uhm I am still going to buy this interface because I feel like it fits my needs for streaming, and I have a big boomy voice in a ambiently loud room. BUT ALSO Beacn's response was RUDE and I would have flown off the handle about it (Props on how well you handled the situation) And again thank you for making follow up video as well, That's obviously gated audio. This was very informative. I am still gonna buy it. Your goal was review and inform people about the product, I think you've gone above and beyond here. Thank you for letting me know EXACTLY what i am about to purchase and what to expect when I get it. Sorry about the state of youtube comments in 2024.
Not to be nitpicky, but I see you're on Windows 11. In W11 sometimes there's additional noise canceling and "Audio Enhancements" to the default audio input source that must be disabled within your windows audio settings to have a truly unaffected signal. I have sometimes found this enabled by default when using outboard headsets and microphones. I don't know enough about this setting to know if it is activated when using a Beacn Studio, but it's possible that recording via the windows default audio input in your DAW is adding additional processing to your signal when recording. I know that Beacn Mix Create can define your default input but I'm not sure if the Beacn Studio can (or if you used these together in testing). Not sure what triggers its availability as an option, but as I didn't see this covered in your video I thought it'd be worth mentioning 😊 I work in AV/UC and recently discovered this when these settings were interfering with the default noise cancellation built into Teams/Zoom in conjunction with third party headsets. Multiple expanders/gates across apps has led to some frustrated end users lol. Not sure why Microsoft included these effects on Windows OS level AND Teams, but Microsoft gonna Microsoft... Seems like everything that touches your mic signal these days has some level of ANC/gating/"AI" and they don't play nicely with each other when combined while on a call or during recording sessions. It could totally be a bad marketing rug pull by Beacn too to be fair. Just wanted to add my two cents 👍 www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-audio-enhancements-in-windows-11.8426/#:~:text=This%20tutorial%20will%20show%20you%20how
Listen...I appreciate the help you are trying to give. But...just a thought... Are you just going to ignore that they advertise this thing as having a reduction algorithm (gate) directly on their preamp?
The only thing I'll say, and this is as someone who really doesn't much care for Beacn, is that it's possible this is just a bug. You clearly have everything turned off, but maybe the software is just bugged and it's not actually turning it off. Maybe you already tested that, just by doing the same whisper thing and just toggling each on and off or by adjusting the settings so that it's effectively off even when it's on. If that's the case and it is just a bug and they can fix it, no harm no foul, so in that sense I do think it would be worth talking to their people about it. But if it is a feature and not a bug, then yeah, 100% agree with you.
@nickglover outside of the obvious marketing material...it's hard to tell...however...it's reacting exactly the way that would be indicated by that same marketing material
@@DarkCornerStudios Im an audio philistine, not even an amateur, but would you expect this to result in a delay in direct monitoring of the input if its not a software issue? i.e. if it was in the pre-amp, would it affect the monitoring?
Holy crap. I was not expecting to show up on your video hahaha. Well, hopefully I didn’t offend. I never meant to say that your review wasn’t accurate. Just that the beacn studio seemed to meet my needs. However, I did see that the Rode Streamer X is on sale for almost the same price as the Beacn Studio. At that price point the Rode is the no brainer so I’m going with the Streamer X. Awesome video as always sir. Love the content.
@DarkCornerStudios If you don’t mind enlightening me a little bit sir! I had the wave 3 and have found the software to not be the best for my liking. I went on and decided to purchase the Beacn Mic. Reason being, I was too broke to get the shure sm7b (my dream) From getting the eq down, the simplicity of the software (I’ve never ran into bugs personally) I’ve enjoyed it. Where it gets me/pisses me off, is the proximity of the Beacn mic. Where a little bit further from a fist lengths away, the audio starts to fall off. I know it’s not a big deal, but for me who enjoys watching my VODS with my niece and nephew, it irritates me how my audio just flops now and then. Which gets me to my actual topic….. I want to purchase the Shure sm7b. WITH the Beacn studio (software biased/used to it) And was wondering, with all that noise suppression/gate stuff, using it purely as a pre-amp and for its software would be fine right? Like you have no quarrels with that? (Normal speaking voice only, I won’t be whispering) I really hope you see this :) thank you in advance
a big problem are these "bigger" youtubers that are not doing their tech work properly or not even testing at all. also them doing sponsored videos and praising the s**t out of the product sucks. I just ordered the Beacn Studio an hour ago before i saw this video. gonna test the mic quality that comes out of the device and see if it fits my needs. the dual pc connectivity of this thing is just a total gamechanger and i really hope it works, since there seems to be nothing comparable to this. being able to mix multiple programs from multiple computers into multiple mixxes is just making everything so much easier. also being able to use one mic with filters/effects on on both computers is making life so much easier. I am really worried that my mic will sound shit now, after seeing both of your videos to that topic. thanks for your work, but next time make your video show sooner up in my recommendations kk thx bye^^
One major issue I can see from the point you raised is that acoustic echo canceller (AEC) used on virtual meeting platforms could get impacted negatively when a loudspeaker is used for audio playback of the far-end participants. When using AEC, non-linear processing including noise gate and compressor placed BEFORE AEC alters echo paths and could deteriorate both near-end mic sound and far-end playback. Since AEC is activated on software codec on these virtual meeting platforms, you basically shouldn't use any non-linear processing for this configuration unless you have an external DSP unit with AEC (which is very expensive). Anyway, for this reason, AEC on software codec will ALWAYS deteriorate the audio when this audio interface is used no matter what its users do (unless they either turn off AEC (which will let the echoes loop back to far-end participants) or use their headphones and turn off loudspeakers to monitor far-end participants).
Interesting, I agree with you after seeing your testing, and then point out a bug in the beta studio software causing the issues you had in your testing that cant be repeated in the current beacn software, and you delete it from your comments
@@DarkCornerStudios I wouldnt think that you would, but my comments on this video were gone when I came back, I thought weird since I was agreeing with you that what your test reveiled was NOT RIGHT! I did your test on my beacn software and it worked like what you where expecting, so im wondering if the beta studio software has a bug that caused your situation. Again, I do agree that with your that that is NOT what should be happening when you turn all those off!!
Is it that big a deal? I’ve listened to other reviews and none of them had this issue. Also realistically what streamer or content creator is going to purposely be whispering or talking low into their mic? This would only affect asmr people I feel like.
@Anthemic weirdly it's not an issue. It's a feature. Though I wouldn't buy it...doesn't mean it's horrible. I don't like being lied to by the company though
Just because it is "AI" does not mean it is "not there". They are processing the audio. They might not call it an audio gate but the results are the same. Sounds like a good old gate/expander to me. Pretty sure guy writing the mail does not even know the technical details. This story just turns out a little sad for Beacn. I considered the Beacn studio though. I did not buy it because of of that very "AI feature". I just don't like the results.
You've earned my sub from these two videos on the BEACN Studio. I was on the fence about the product, but this helps to reaffirm why I've always stayed away from this team since their days working on the GoXLR.
I saw Senpai Gaming video about this and was sold since i do have the mic and mixer already... now my question to you since im getting a second pc in like a week or so what would you recommend i get instead of this.. thank you in advance
I understand that harris really likes beacn products however beacn failure has always been about lying about their products, using software to fix it and not accepting criticism. That's why I will never buy anything from them
....think he is right about this. They have something "cleaning" the audio and just try to play dumb. But why? Why couldn't they just repeat their marketing message: We use AI to make the audio even better Why go the dishonest route? I don't get it
but i do want a noise suppression on the preamp... because i have a VERY noisy airconditioner and I don't want to use NVIDIA background noise remover... having it on the preamp frees my CPU and GPU for actual gaming and streaming... so it being a deal breaker for you is actually the opposite for me.
Please tell senpai all that cause he swears by beacn and even going as far as saying the that product is a lot better than the wave xlr.haha what a joke
@@DarkCornerStudios i 100% agree with you on that and I'm sorry but I lost so much respect for harris since he made that video talking nonsense and gain so much more respect for you
The quintessential mic drop video. 10/10!
Tbh the fact they said in their own words that there’s “patented noise suppression algorithm we apply non-destructive analysis of the preamp noise to the audio signal, essentially eliminating all noise on the preamp.” Then they tell you there is no noise suppression lol. So which is it. They lying or don’t want to admit it could be or is their fault lol 😅. Even if I’m the end for most people this won’t matter to much for most content creators, you are still giving an objective perspective and testing on different types of scenarios and mics which is always useful to know. The only issue is them lying about it sadly 😢when even they themselves advertise it on their site as noise suppression at the preamp level
Right?!?!
Good for you, Aiden. I am tired of the first response of companies to customer complaints being to blame the customer. great way to get repeat custom.
Curious how this would work in a Mac / PS5 stream setup
No Mac support on the software side
@ should be out any day now
Oh my :/
@EposVox lol...that could mean so many things.
This was what I was referring to with my tweet.
I'm probably still going to get it. Not a big audio person and the ease of use with the software for streaming is exactly what I need once I upgrade to a 2 pc streaming setup.
Excellent video. As always.
@Aiden
Please don't let companies put you down.
I know it can be hard, I know they can put pressure on you.
Your audience has your back.
Nah
I don’t get bullied easily
Its not a gamechanger because it has the same features as the years old Presonus Revelator series, but a bit worse - they also have OBS integration, studio one integration and a more comprehensive chain. Theyre selling out the io44 for $80, probably worth grabbing one as a comparison, its main problem is it uses a CS4270 ADDA which isnt true balanced so despite the balanced pre its a bit noise prone, notably also prone to ultrasonic interference issues from its cut down filter.
Personally I do like the Beacn EQ...but I guess that all comes down to taste.
I also prefer the routing of Beacn.
Presonus did a great job as well though
Ah-ha! So that's why it was so noise prone. Such a shame, if they had just committed to better internals that would've been a killer interface.
@@DarkCornerStudios For $80 it was a bit of a no-brainer for streaming ease despite my multichannel interfaces. Not that i particularly like Presonus as a company but theyre decent value, if a lil hit or miss. I think you have the Eris 5 Monitors too? Just ridiculous for the money.
@@nickglover such a stupid place on a $200 interface to save $5 at most over a CS4272 which would have been fine - they powered Scarlett G1-3 and sill power the Behringers among others.
Is the beacn fixed now ?
Phenomenal. Thankyou sir, you've Just saved me $450 AUD. Thanks for taking the time to do such a detailed review and intellectually respond to Beacn themselves. Much respect
I don't get it. Where's the problem for BEACN to add a off switch in the app for the (way to harsh) gate?
One question: Do you get a EQ for the monitor out?
Nice response. Thanks for making this video.
Great video! Unfortunately, we live in a time where the hypothetical mindset is not acceptable. A product may be designed for 'live streamers" doesn't mean every "live streamer" needs to support its design. You proved they misrepresented the specs, it doesn't mean you're telling everyone to boycott the product. What works for some doesn't work for all.
whats a good interface for recording vocals between 100-350$?
Removing the noise suppression with a firmware update (if possible) and adding a simple check box in the software for said "built-in suppression algorythm" would be a huge update and also redeem Beacn IMO.
Off topic: I have considered this device as Elgato locks out Wavelink if you plug in a 2nd Wave device to the same PC. (e.g. I have a Wave XLR & XLR Dock for my Stream Deck+ with a mic on each and while Wavelink only allows one registered wave device in Wavelink, it literally doesn't work with even 1 device with 2 devices plugged in. Bummer. 3rd party software or 3rd party hardware shouldn't be necessary.)
BOOM!!!
I remember Epovox calling them out for something similar when they dropped their mics
@@HeelJosh yeah...this video got an "oh my" from him...lolz
I owe epovox an apologie tbh, i was an avid fan of beacn since day one, should've listened to him instead.
I don't even follow audio gear like that but you earned a sub for this since I was looking to replace my goxlr eventually
Really excellent video. People should realize a company having a product you like doesn't absolve them of accountability for bad actions.
"Mastergate 9000", lmao! Great video and response!
Lol...it's one of my favorites too
Do you have a recommendation for someone in the market to ease up their splitting for audio in a dual PC setup if the Beacn studio didn't live up to the hype?
Asking as I've been saving up to try and get something better than my current setup and I finally got to the point of being able to purchase one but newer reviews aren't giving me a lot of reassurance in the Beacn Studio. My goal is to figure out how to simplify my audio setup as much as possible.
Right now my setup is as follows:
Mic: Blue Ember
Mixer: Mackie Mix 5 which uses a splitter to go to both computers (bought this on a budget and is the piece I'm looking to upgrade / replace)
Voicemeeter Potato: To split audio (excluding mic) to a HD60X from my main PC to my stream PC
Voicemeeter Potato: Using VBAN to send audio from the stream PC back to my main PC for alerts and such
I honestly don't know a ton about audio and learning audio has been a painfully slow. I don't need studio quality but I'd like it to be as simple and painless as possible as its my Achilles heel the entire time I've made any sort of content. It just never sounds right to me but I never know how to actually improve it.
I gotta say here, I was so sold on this after watching the Senpai Gaming video, but didn't see your video and it well, validated the feelings I had when I actually picked this up. For one, it's a super cheap feeling plastic device, the cables wiggle when you plug them in, it's just all-around cheap feeling. For $250 that's a huge bummer.
I was sold on the software, but you can feel deeply that the hardware got the back seat, which doesn't feel great. They should just be a software company, not a hardware company.
Though that said, I'm on a MacBook Air, and their software isn't even recognizing that the unit is plugged in, I can't get anything to even work, and thus, it's literally a brick at the moment.
The sad part is, even if it did work and the software was amazing, I just can't get over how cheap feeling this is. Not worth what we paid. Going to return it for certain. I'm just feeling conflicted right now and well, sad. No idea what to get now.
@abass_ that sucks man.
The Rodecaster series now offers more virtual channels?
Not sure if that's out of your price range.
Sorry to hear though
@@DarkCornerStudios Just spent another 4 hours watching reviews and... I think I've landed on the Roadcaster Duo. I'm going to take the leap, also just confirmed that the BEACN software doesn't even support the BEACN Studio on MacOS right now... Just checked their Discord, totally baffled.
Anyway, all of that to be said, I've initiated a return and will give the Duo a shot. Appreciate your authenticity and transparency, subscribed!
@@abass_ cheers!
I really do like the Duo
Never listen to senpai gaming.
@@Vashtiian why do you say that? I do like his videos and feel like he puts a lot into them otherwise. Also just returned and bought the Duo.
Damn. I just came to find out if it would be a good headphone amp along with the bonus of the other stuff. Thanks for your good work brother! 💯🙏🏼😂
Well done, well said, and now the correct use of the smiley face :) in audio solidarity.
Lol
First of all this is what I love about your channel it’s straight forward and not just about the good things, though I might not always agree I respect your opinion.
I was a bit sceptical of the beacon because Harris had praised it (not to say he’s a bad person or anything) but he has a tendency to promote and praise certain products and companies, so I’m glad you got to review it.
Secondly I saw a lot of people commenting that they liked the permanent gate because of their untreated room, and I just want to point to those people who heavily use a gate, that using a gate in a untreated room or a noisy environment is often counterproductive.
Even in a quiet space...a gate can do some wonky things.
The sonic experience of a gate in a loud room though is one of the worst listening experiences a person can have
I have one question that you or hopefully someone can tell me. The BEACN Studio works on PS5 but I was wondering if it is possible to get the processed mic effects through the app to get sent to the PS5 versus just a raw audio signal? Either through onboard memory or by having it connected to a pc at the same time as it being plugged into the console.
Good job & thanks Alden!
Speaking of trust, I must say, that there are very few audio tech reviewers that I do trust. But even out of these few you definitely are the most honest one and I appreciate that a lot. Thank you very much for being honest with us as a community and for proving time and time again that the trust I and many others put into you is definitely deserved.
Thank you for the kind words.
I appreciate that!
This Beacn interface woulda been way better with studio monitor outputs
Agreed! Between this and the problems with the preamp, I'll have to pass on it
Great review both videos.
I think the issue with this Beacn unit is its price. Its hardware quality is fine for the budget market. The effort in fixing it with pugins, no matter how good some things cant be polished for a premium, even with intuitive code.
Hats off to the software engineers maybe beacon bean counters will allow their software to be shiped with better hardware.
Then again the buisness model is to take poor hardware and polish it with code, and pull the he wool over a target audience that don't know better.
Edit: If this was marketed to sound professionals they wouldnt sell any.
Hey, Hope the day finds you well.
So I watched both videos (Thank you for making them) Uhm I am still going to buy this interface because I feel like it fits my needs for streaming, and I have a big boomy voice in a ambiently loud room.
BUT ALSO Beacn's response was RUDE and I would have flown off the handle about it (Props on how well you handled the situation) And again thank you for making follow up video as well, That's obviously gated audio.
This was very informative. I am still gonna buy it. Your goal was review and inform people about the product, I think you've gone above and beyond here.
Thank you for letting me know EXACTLY what i am about to purchase and what to expect when I get it.
Sorry about the state of youtube comments in 2024.
The Elgato wavexlr is cheaper and they are honest about what the device does.
Not to be nitpicky, but I see you're on Windows 11.
In W11 sometimes there's additional noise canceling and "Audio Enhancements" to the default audio input source that must be disabled within your windows audio settings to have a truly unaffected signal. I have sometimes found this enabled by default when using outboard headsets and microphones. I don't know enough about this setting to know if it is activated when using a Beacn Studio, but it's possible that recording via the windows default audio input in your DAW is adding additional processing to your signal when recording. I know that Beacn Mix Create can define your default input but I'm not sure if the Beacn Studio can (or if you used these together in testing).
Not sure what triggers its availability as an option, but as I didn't see this covered in your video I thought it'd be worth mentioning 😊
I work in AV/UC and recently discovered this when these settings were interfering with the default noise cancellation built into Teams/Zoom in conjunction with third party headsets. Multiple expanders/gates across apps has led to some frustrated end users lol. Not sure why Microsoft included these effects on Windows OS level AND Teams, but Microsoft gonna Microsoft... Seems like everything that touches your mic signal these days has some level of ANC/gating/"AI" and they don't play nicely with each other when combined while on a call or during recording sessions.
It could totally be a bad marketing rug pull by Beacn too to be fair. Just wanted to add my two cents 👍
www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-audio-enhancements-in-windows-11.8426/#:~:text=This%20tutorial%20will%20show%20you%20how
Listen...I appreciate the help you are trying to give.
But...just a thought...
Are you just going to ignore that they advertise this thing as having a reduction algorithm (gate) directly on their preamp?
@@DarkCornerStudiossomeone that knows more than you offers up some real advice and you come back with some sarcasm. Bruh.
Great video
The only thing I'll say, and this is as someone who really doesn't much care for Beacn, is that it's possible this is just a bug. You clearly have everything turned off, but maybe the software is just bugged and it's not actually turning it off. Maybe you already tested that, just by doing the same whisper thing and just toggling each on and off or by adjusting the settings so that it's effectively off even when it's on. If that's the case and it is just a bug and they can fix it, no harm no foul, so in that sense I do think it would be worth talking to their people about it. But if it is a feature and not a bug, then yeah, 100% agree with you.
@nickglover outside of the obvious marketing material...it's hard to tell...however...it's reacting exactly the way that would be indicated by that same marketing material
@@DarkCornerStudios Im an audio philistine, not even an amateur, but would you expect this to result in a delay in direct monitoring of the input if its not a software issue? i.e. if it was in the pre-amp, would it affect the monitoring?
@@dyseal hi if I could chime in here. It is probably apart of the interface processing just after conversion from analogue so no noticeable latency.
@@julesc8054makes sense
Holy crap. I was not expecting to show up on your video hahaha. Well, hopefully I didn’t offend. I never meant to say that your review wasn’t accurate. Just that the beacn studio seemed to meet my needs. However, I did see that the Rode Streamer X is on sale for almost the same price as the Beacn Studio. At that price point the Rode is the no brainer so I’m going with the Streamer X. Awesome video as always sir. Love the content.
@agentshenron nope...not offended as well.
Also yeah...the StreamerX is awesome...and sometimes they come bundled with the Rode headphones.
@DarkCornerStudios
If you don’t mind enlightening me a little bit sir!
I had the wave 3 and have found the software to not be the best for my liking.
I went on and decided to purchase the Beacn Mic. Reason being, I was too broke to get the shure sm7b (my dream)
From getting the eq down, the simplicity of the software (I’ve never ran into bugs personally) I’ve enjoyed it.
Where it gets me/pisses me off, is the proximity of the Beacn mic. Where a little bit further from a fist lengths away, the audio starts to fall off. I know it’s not a big deal, but for me who enjoys watching my VODS with my niece and nephew, it irritates me how my audio just flops now and then.
Which gets me to my actual topic…..
I want to purchase the Shure sm7b. WITH the Beacn studio (software biased/used to it)
And was wondering, with all that noise suppression/gate stuff, using it purely as a pre-amp and for its software would be fine right? Like you have no quarrels with that? (Normal speaking voice only, I won’t be whispering)
I really hope you see this :) thank you in advance
Your video helped me make a very informed decision against buying the studio for now. Its just not what I'm looking for. Thank you.
a big problem are these "bigger" youtubers that are not doing their tech work properly or not even testing at all.
also them doing sponsored videos and praising the s**t out of the product sucks.
I just ordered the Beacn Studio an hour ago before i saw this video. gonna test the mic quality that comes out of the device and see if it fits my needs.
the dual pc connectivity of this thing is just a total gamechanger and i really hope it works, since there seems to be nothing comparable to this.
being able to mix multiple programs from multiple computers into multiple mixxes is just making everything so much easier. also being able to use one mic with filters/effects on on both computers is making life so much easier.
I am really worried that my mic will sound shit now, after seeing both of your videos to that topic.
thanks for your work, but next time make your video show sooner up in my recommendations kk thx bye^^
@@Dietahvr see what I can do...lol
They tried a “gotcha” but got “got”
One major issue I can see from the point you raised is that acoustic echo canceller (AEC) used on virtual meeting platforms could get impacted negatively when a loudspeaker is used for audio playback of the far-end participants. When using AEC, non-linear processing including noise gate and compressor placed BEFORE AEC alters echo paths and could deteriorate both near-end mic sound and far-end playback. Since AEC is activated on software codec on these virtual meeting platforms, you basically shouldn't use any non-linear processing for this configuration unless you have an external DSP unit with AEC (which is very expensive). Anyway, for this reason, AEC on software codec will ALWAYS deteriorate the audio when this audio interface is used no matter what its users do (unless they either turn off AEC (which will let the echoes loop back to far-end participants) or use their headphones and turn off loudspeakers to monitor far-end participants).
That's a great point!
Well that's one way to get a new firmware update... 😂
Heh
I think the Myth Busters got it right once but even then it was still pretty dull.
After the crap, epos went through, i believed you, in the first video, plus it was just obvious. i bought one, but ill mainly use for other features.
Interesting, I agree with you after seeing your testing, and then point out a bug in the beta studio software causing the issues you had in your testing that cant be repeated in the current beacn software, and you delete it from your comments
Just so you know...I DONT delete comments.
No idea what happened...but I don't do anyone dirty like that
@@DarkCornerStudios I wouldnt think that you would, but my comments on this video were gone when I came back, I thought weird since I was agreeing with you that what your test reveiled was NOT RIGHT! I did your test on my beacn software and it worked like what you where expecting, so im wondering if the beta studio software has a bug that caused your situation. Again, I do agree that with your that that is NOT what should be happening when you turn all those off!!
Is it that big a deal? I’ve listened to other reviews and none of them had this issue. Also realistically what streamer or content creator is going to purposely be whispering or talking low into their mic? This would only affect asmr people I feel like.
@Anthemic weirdly it's not an issue.
It's a feature.
Though I wouldn't buy it...doesn't mean it's horrible.
I don't like being lied to by the company though
@@DarkCornerStudiosfair enough about the lying. I just think the rest of it isn’t a huge deal.
Just because it is "AI" does not mean it is "not there".
They are processing the audio. They might not call it an audio gate but the results are the same.
Sounds like a good old gate/expander to me.
Pretty sure guy writing the mail does not even know the technical details.
This story just turns out a little sad for Beacn.
I considered the Beacn studio though. I did not buy it because of of that very "AI feature". I just don't like the results.
You've earned my sub from these two videos on the BEACN Studio. I was on the fence about the product, but this helps to reaffirm why I've always stayed away from this team since their days working on the GoXLR.
@SavacGaming-l9n thanks for the kind words!(for me...not Beacn) lol
I saw Senpai Gaming video about this and was sold since i do have the mic and mixer already... now my question to you since im getting a second pc in like a week or so what would you recommend i get instead of this.. thank you in advance
That the rode podmic usb version or normal your using?
Its the usb
I understand that harris really likes beacn products however beacn failure has always been about lying about their products, using software to fix it and not accepting criticism. That's why I will never buy anything from them
....think he is right about this.
They have something "cleaning" the audio and just try to play dumb.
But why? Why couldn't they just repeat their marketing message: We use AI to make the audio even better
Why go the dishonest route?
I don't get it
Beacn. Bleah. Doubling down on dishonesty. Insulting an objective reviewer. And inappropriately using a smiley. Terminal Bleah.
@@MuMeiNameless21 lmao.
That got an outright laugh
but i do want a noise suppression on the preamp... because i have a VERY noisy airconditioner and I don't want to use NVIDIA background noise remover... having it on the preamp frees my CPU and GPU for actual gaming and streaming... so it being a deal breaker for you is actually the opposite for me.
Please tell senpai all that cause he swears by beacn and even going as far as saying the that product is a lot better than the wave xlr.haha what a joke
I'd say from a software perspective...he is right.
To be fair though...Harris isn't an audio guy
@@DarkCornerStudios i 100% agree with you on that and I'm sorry but I lost so much respect for harris since he made that video talking nonsense and gain so much more respect for you
@Eldon.308 yeah...I still respect him...he is one of the best at gaming knowledge on YT...
Just perhaps not on audio
100%
@@DarkCornerStudios and please keep doing exactly what you doing cause I love honest people like yourself and gagetrytech
Too bad it’s Windows-only.
Linux is dog shit anyway, and I use linux regularly.