Yep. But LAP extremely outdated. Still not have export stems. Still have not modern UI for 27 y.o. synths with pixelisation on whole interface. It's a shame. Moving to Studio One from 30 years been with Logic. Best $199.
@@jklight3795 Studio One isn't 199, stop the lies. They are nearing Avid with those tiering and subscription. The only cheap DAW today is Logic Pro and Reaper.
I did that 10 years ago and CAN HARDLY WAIT TO PAY WHEN THE SUB PERIOD FINISHES. I love it so much. This after 20 fucking years dicking with Mac-based DAW. 2025...the world's your oyster, bro. Get what you can afford and make music quickly. I also avoid the fuck out of plugin review sites and elitist audio channels. Too much distraction. At some point, you will figure out what works for you as a producer and mixer and engineer. So...stick to those things and bonus points if you use the cheapest, easiest tech available. It's never the gear, it's the engineer. Happy New Year, bro.
Yep. If you're dealing mostly with recording, mixing and manipulating audio I think Reaper is the best DAW available. I don't think it's the best songwriting platform, but it's endlessly flexible on the engineering side.
Used Cakewalk until it became SONAR and ran almost every version of SONAR until 2013 when I started using Reaper... Reaper to this day, and it runs circles around anything else that I could benchmark against it. Reaper supported common hardware interfaces and maintains low latency with ASIO drivers. I lost my recording space and now most of the gear is in storage. It was a good run, but I never saw the benefit to spending $25K on additional computer hardware for Pro Tools like my friends. I still have an 18-port Focusrite interface in a 4-sp rack and can take my tracking studio and microphones anywhere necessary.
I think it's all bull, I have used protools for 20 years, open project, arm record, record, edit mix awesome result great music, yes it is about great music. Its not rocket Science
Avid cling to their claim of being the “ industry standard” without seeming to realise that “the industry” isn’t out there any more. They continue to price their products as if they’re selling to multimillion dollar studios. Meanwhile we’re all sitting in our home studios using other companies products 😂
Same with Sibelius, their music notation software. They’re so busy trying to milk their existing customers without offering any ongoing value that they are blind. Finale…a major competitor…folded recently. Dorico scrambled to win over the people who were going to change products. Avid and Sibelius? Nothing. SMH…
they are getting pinched. Audio post production is the standard but they dont want to lower prices to appeal to indie music studios and get less money from that industry.
Been working as a professional composer and producer for 12 years for some of the biggest clients in the industry. They had us use Pro Tools in uni and it was clear from the beginning that this was not the platform for people who want to write music as well as mix. I have been using Cubase for 90% of those 12 years (10% was Logic 9) and never had to look anywhere else for my professional/creative needs. And yes there have been times when the system was pushed to its limits but there were easy ways to manage this (indeed special thanks to Chris Selim for more than half of those tips). Never saw the need for Pro Tools, still can’t. Big ups for the upfront and honest video.
Not really. Studio One works very similarly to Pro Tools. But they were just selling it for insanely cheap for new users like 200. But 150 to upgrade from 6 to 7. It's not as expensive as Pro Tools for sure but it works exactly the same if you have a Perpetual license. You need to pay for each version upgrade Pro Tools you need to pay a bit more whenever you want one more year of upgrades.
Anytime Barry gets on here and starts talking about Pro tools I get the popcorn and drinks ready and put it on the big screen cause it's about to be a good one! PROTOOLS DONT MATTER😂
@@djsampha Agreed! Saved for a few plugins, wave tune included for me as well, I barely pay attention to 'em since they pulled the sub only move in 2022 or 23 and reversed course when the inevitable backlash hit. Also, UAD allowing usage of their native plugins with 3rd party gear was the final nail in the coffin for my relationship with Waves.
AMEN on Waves!!!! I was so damn upset when I initially found out how much I was going to have to pay out to update the plugins I had, I just decided to leave Waves alone altogether.
Best thing that happened to me in 2021 was my 2012 Mac Pro dying and finally getting off of ProTools totally. At 46, getting a Tascam Model 24 and going back to old school analog racks was the best decision for me financially and creatively. I don’t miss ProTools at all. Learning audio engineering in 1997 was pivotal being that daw’s were in their infancy and analog was still the standard. So grateful to have learn on SSL and Neve consoles, now I feel right at home with my current setup.
Absolutely. I learned on MCI JH636 console and JH24 tape and another place I worked on a Trident console with a Studer tape machine. If it wasn't so expensive, I'd love to record that way now. Are you recording to an external drive from the Tascam?
@@Scott__CThat’s awesome! I’m going from the Tascam to a ART MPA PRO for tube saturation then to a AudioScape G Buss comp to glue the mix and then print to a Tascam DP-03 which has mastering functionality. I’m trying to stay out of the box primarily.
I'm just an aspiring hobbyist. When I first got into this, I paid for a subscription to pro tools because I heard that's what serious folks used. I had nothing but problems getting it to play nice with my brand new PC and other programs. It crashed all the time and I got new-learner discouraged and made no progress with this hobby for a year. Then I was surprised by a renewal charge, that's my fault for auto subscribing to renewal, but dang, that they didn't give me notice they were going to renew ticked me off. So I switched to Reaper. Wonderful program. Love it. When finale called it quits, I had to decide what I was going to migrate to for my musical scoring program. Avid owns Sibelius. Guess which program wasn't even to be considered as a replacement? Finale was another program that wouldn't play nice and was hard to use, moved to musescore. It's 10X easier to use and does all I need. Avid can go rot.
You mentioned it here, your honesty and straight forward manner is very very appreciated and what causes me to continue to follow you. Keep doing what you're doing man!
reaper for life, 15 yrs in, has never let us down, ya want a different feature, somebody's written the code, copy an paste, bang custom update, reaper uber alles
If I have a Mac I definitely choose Logic Pro as my DAW, I think they have a great deal for Apple customers and I'm not a fan of Apple products, don't like closed systems.
5k is crazy. I just got an M3 Max 16” 128GB 8TB. Okay it was expensive but my word it’s a beast. I don’t think I’ve gone past 15% on the cpu. I keep throwing Kontakts and Neural DSP amps and Reason Rack Plugins and it refuses to budge. This is true whether I’m using Cubase, Logic, Live or Reason. It’s actually amazing. The world has moved on and someone forgot to tell Avid (or they’re just pretending it hasn’t!).
M2 Max Studio here - with audio, I can't see needing anything more - as a practical matter. I use a TON of VST's, guitar effects processors, and more. It doesn't break a sweat. Video editing is also superb - beyond anything I will ever use. I guess the new M4's do swifter rendering of the 3D Fusion stuff in Davinci, but its only a little bit choppy at 4K 60 the first time you play it through.
I have to thank Avid, if it wasn't for them going to a subscription service, I would still be with them, and I wouldn't have found Reaper. I love Reaper. So, thanks again for sticking it to us so we could look elsewhere.
Im 34 this year. Ive been using FL STUDIO sunce i was 10, protools from 2010-2020 got tired bouncing my beat stems from fl studio to protools. Started recording on FL STUDIO.
Just like you I was a Pro Tools Accel, then TDM , and HDX user because of compatibility with others working in the industry, when Pro Tools 11 came out I started using Logic Pro more and more since it was just my artist 95% or the time working with me. I sold my Avid gear and never looked back. Logic was $199 in 2013 and in 2025 I haven't paid 1 single upgrade since! Reaper, and Logic are about the best values for DAW software out there!
Made the same decision over 25 years ago and haven’t looked back once in regret. Overpriced overhyped and greedy is right. Same story with their video editing software and hardware. Good on you for sharing and coming to see the light.
I am shocked the HDX cards are still in production. The Texas Instruments DSP chip is an antique at this point in time. The original data sheet is dated October 2007!!!!
At this point as soon as a software company gets bought out by private equity, I start looking for a replacement. My threshold for putting up with toxic BS from these clowns is zero.
Some of us do in fact enjoy Pro Tools. I've used everything else but Logic and Studio One. I always come back. I've also not paid Avid a penny in years. My perpetual version 12.4 still works like a champ and supports every plugin and instrument I could ever want or need to use. Yeah, Avid can choke on a bag of footlongs, but know that some of us do actually prefer working in PT.
I'm actually in your EXACT same situation: PT12.4 on my old PC, and never paid them a DIME on subscription. That said, it's feeling kinda long-of-tooth, so I just bought a new Mac Mini Pro M4 and am going to LUNA (with an Apollo Thunderbolt interface and a bunch of their plugs that I already have). I own Studio One and will probably try out Logic as well. We'll see how the "feel" is on Luna, but from everything I've seen on TH-cam and other reviews, it looks like it will do everything I need and has a lot of the same shortcuts and setup as PT.
@@anthony6399 Ya, I heard about that. I haven't used external hardware much, although I have a lot of it and would like to do more in the future. One of the things I like about Luna is how they are constantly updating and improving it. They have a "feedback" feature built right into it and apparently listen and respond to their users requests quite a bit. That is one of the biggest requests for Luna right now, so I'm hopeful that that will be coming soon.
Agreed. Tried Nuendo and reaper for two years and came back to Pro Tools. The workflow is unsurpassed for mixing and editing. Other DAWs are wonderful at what they do, but if you need to professionally mix and edit tv, music and film all day, Pro Tools can’t be beat…yet.
@@RussReiterMusic if you've never used logic or studio one I would argue that you've gotten comfortable, and don't know what you're missing.Like automating, anything at any time on any track just by doing it, or by dragging or duplicating a track instantly and intuitively without going into menus. I could name dozens of functions where PT is stuck in the past but whatever works for you.
It was crazy in the 00s when Protools and DD were required for people to take you seriously. People who knew nothing about it, but just wanted to come and record would opt for other places if a studio didnt use Protools. I was certified in PT in 02 but after working at a studio that used Digital Performer, I never used PT on my machine again.
As one person posted, Cubase is so '90's. Studio One is a lot slicker, in a lot of ways. One thing to worry about when moving away from PT, is equal delay compensation across all tracks - otherwise you'll have phasing issues. Reaper, e.g., doesn't seem to have gotten the memo. S1 also is lenient about copy protection, has a lower price than Cubase; and you don't have to be opening and closing windows so much. More than 8 fx/track, anyone? That's just begins to scratch the surface with S1. I can only hope the S1 pricing and policies stay similar now that Fender has taken it over; because they have a really good product on their hands, IMHO. It reportedly has even fx delay compensation across all tracks, like PT, but unlike Reaper. I admit S1 can seem hard to use at 1st, but then it gets easier, and other DAWs then seem clunky.
Paid for a Pro Tools Ultimate subscription, ended up using FL Studio as my main producing DAW and Studio One as my more technical one. A thousand times more affordable, and a billion times easier to work with.
I couldn’t agree more. The only reason we still use Media Composer in the industry is because of these age old workflows from offline to online and then to delivery. I only use MC when I’m required to do so. I use Resolve to cut everything else.
I will be forever thankful to a professor I had who taught a class on home recording with virtual instruments. Every other class used Pro Tools or Avid for video editing, he asked the school to put Cubase and Logic on all the computers. It was amazing. I could get around Pro Tools fine. But Logic and Cubase were so much easier. They were so much more inspiring to use. I use Studio One now and get that same feeling. Anything but Pro Tools at this point. I love Cubase, Logic, and Studio One.
We own most of the DAWs for compatibility with clients (Studio One and Logic are favs) but honestly the zero latency of our HDX Pro Tools is key for tracking large sessions with DSP plugins, and the DSP for 16 channel routing to headphone mixers, again, with zero latency, is handy. Sure, we could do it with our large format console but it's a pain. We might use Reaper for live remotes for its stability, but instead use Metric Halo's DAW "Session" because it's equally or more stable and the routing for headphones, etc is superb. Metic Halo's DAW "Session" is deadly.
@@tomrogers2790 Good point! Possibly, but since we're in the Metric Halo universe (which is impressively well thought out IMHO) we just use those with all their DSP and low latency. We do so much tracking that latency is just one of those issues we don't even want to think about. Cheers
I remember going completely ITB with Logic in about 2004 with no external DSP, just an external PCI-based interface and recording with software monitoring. Admittedly I wasn't recording huge numbers of tracks, perhaps 8 max, but I was astonished how well it worked, how much software was included, how cheap it was, how much fun it was to use (except the dreaded "environment"...) and how well it played with whatever interface I owned. At the same time, I witnessed other producers with *functionally inferior* setups running on super-expensive computers with super-expensive DSP and super-expensive interfaces. All those people got financially COOKED when their gear needed replacing and I just couldn't understand their loyalty to go and REBUY it all!
Excuse me for my ignorance I haven't dug into this topic yet but if I was to switch to a program other than pro tools is there any daw on the market that can open PT session files? ... That would be one of my biggest concerns is wanting to open up an older session or having a client hit me up about an older session... That would be a concern and also learning how to transition from years of knowing all the quick keys and shortcuts
I’ve been running Pro Tools ultimate/ HDX on a Mac Pro 5.1 using Martin Lo’s open core package. The most stable system I’ve had, it was like getting a new computer. I’ve been trying for the last 3 years to upgrade to silicon, the 5.1 system still is capable of massive mixers using Softube, UAD, plugin alliance etc before adding DSP to the mix. Tracking with HDX is seamless. I also run vsts, albeit only about 10 before things get crunchy on the old 5.1, but nevertheless it still works. I am hoping to upgrade to a Mac Studio M4, as I am writing more and I feel it’s now time to retire the the old Mac Pro 5.1, but what an incredible journey over the past 15years. Without HDX this wouldn’t have been possible. Prior to the 5.1 I was upgrading computers every 2-3 years to be able to run new software. After the latest ARA and Midi updates, Protools is looking like it’s heading in the right direction…..finally! I come from a Cubase background.
I don’t usually wish ill on a company, but Avid might be an exception. 😒Between their shady practices and abysmal customer service, they’re earning every bit of the backlash. Great video 👏👏
We started with Mix + and then HDX as well but the rise of better, faster, more creative DAW’s and cash grab subscription models finally made us see the light. Then when Apple silicon came along, there was no turning back. Best decision ever for a full time working studio.
New subscriber here. Great channel. I got an email from Adobe stating they’re gonna be raising their subscription fee again. I hope people will say heck no to these companies trying to suck all of your hard earned money out of your pockets. Thank you 🙏🏾
Never owned protools. I did want it back in the 90s but couldn’t afford it. Discovered Cubase in 2001 and never turned back. On Cubase 14 now and it does everything I need it to do plus more. So many very good daws out there. I’ve had some experience with protools working in other studios. Never was impressed. But it does get the job done. Each to his own but unless things change drastically I’ll be a Cubase guy.
Why would anyone bother with Pro Tools, Reapers costs $60 and can actually do FAR more than Pro Tools. There is 1 reason and 1 reason only to have Pro Tools now, and that is because a lot of established industry people use it, that s literally the only reason. Some folks will turn their nose up, but that's cool, they can go pay $500, I will go pay $60 , get a more stable, far less CPU intensive, ALL plugin format options, multiple Video editing capacities, every single function you have in Pro Tools and every other DAW for that matter (Reaper is like the Linux of DAW systems without compatibility issues) You can even make Reaper look and shortcut like Pro Tools. There is no reason to be tied to ProTools in 2025
I could say something good to other daw, but not reaper. If you have a lot of time learning it yeah sure, but reaper workflow is pretty convoluted compared to something like cubase, logic and studio one. At least to me
Reaper’s selling point was never the low price for me, it was always the functionality, customization, and stability. It’s just insane…I’d pay 5x for it.
What takes me 30 mins in fl studio takes me 2-3 days in pro tools. But FL hasn't been the same since they added a cloud. Studio One 7 user now. It's not as smooth as fl but is worth every penny and some
I first bought Pro Tools in 2000 with an Audiomedia 3 and Apple G3. It was great. I switched to Ableton at version 6, and now on 12. Still keep a pro tools (MP9) rig but it's only superior for audio editing and mixing. Ableton get's it done in so many more ways for me. Ableton 12, M4 pro and an Apollo Solo is all i need.
I miss Nuendo…. Easily the best editing software out there. I’ve been in Studio One for 10 years now but still find myself trying to use the Nuendo shortcuts!
@nicefish10 I'm still using both. Nuendo is really overkill for what I do given I'm not using anything but the recording facilities, meaning all I really need is Cubase but Steinberg had a fantastic crossgrade and I just couldn't resist. It did mean giving up my Cubase license at the time, as this was with they were still using the eLicense dongle. Well, if I ever need the video and ADR stuff, at least, I'll already have the tools, but I agree with you that its editing capabilities are second to none.
I thank you for your honest opinion. I've been going back and forth about joining the protools family ever since my artist started gaining attention from major labels and when we worked in there studios with all the best gear you can ask for only to find out they were primarily using protools with a avid audio interface and u87 for 90% of there tracking only for the end product to sound just the same at my home studio using logic with an Apollo Twin x on a slate VMS-ML1 with the virtual mix rack with the same mic options. At the end of the day we all were sold on the idea of needing pro tools to be considered true pros, but slowly learn we can do the same with a better quality daw of our choosing for a lot less.
The way I have to record I use Midi Drums some midi keys and I do Bass and electric guitar myself as well as the vocals. It's just all for fun but I want the best sound I can manage! I built my PC to do whatever I needed but there is always a ceiling. I got 44 tracks on this newest project that runs several plugins on most of them. It's pretty cool how a PC can run so much! Sometimes I run guitar amp sims as well so that is all taxing on the CPU! I have a 10 core dual thread CPU that is over clocked to 5 ghtz per core and it shows 20 cores in the monitor software for windows. So it really does a LOT! it shows 5100 Mhtz right now whatever that brings it to. Just keep the CPU cool with a great cooling system and you can overclock unlocked CPU's and still be stable.
As soon as digidesign sold to avid pro tools was over...i was lucky i get out right after my 002 board died...i went with a few options until i found reaper and found it to be my favorite daw with way more flexibility and option than avid would ever dream to even upsell for pt...idk anyone but some really old school hold outs with their hd boards from 15 years ago
It's not just the HDX core process, the HDX has a superior sound to any USB interface because the HDX bypasses the Mac's Core audio to provide a much cleaner sound quality.
I started using Media Composer back in the early 90s on a Quadra 950 and 4 8GB drives that held 36 minutes of barely broadcast quality SD NTSC video. I think the setup cost $150,000 of the TV station’s money. Can’t say that I “hated it,” because the alternatives were worse. However, even then the software was bloated and the technical support team didn’t completely understand it. (30 years later, I still remember the Tech Support phone number, if that tells you anything about how often I dialed it!) Still, we produced some good TV that I’m still proud of today. Also, having “X years of Media Composer experience” was a useful resume line around the turn of the century. I put AVID products in my past when I realized I could outfit 4 Final Cut Pro systems for the price of one MC suite… with money left over to buy furniture!
Gotta be honest I use Pro tools because that’s what I learned on when going to film school. I do music production now as well and I tried Logic and Ableton for a couple years but when I tried Pro Tools again some second nature and memory just made it where I flowed better through sessions. I do hate the price but it’s just a platform I learned on and I guess I’m kind of afraid now to try new stuff. I also don’t know (that’s a clue that I have to research I guess) how many people are using other software for audio film postproduction. I know a guy that uses Logic but when sending to the mastering engineer or even the mixing engineer they will use pro tools but maybe it’s just cause the same reason that they’re old and used to it. Quite a reflexive video for me, maybe I’ll dedicate a day or two a week to start learning something like reaper. thanks for uploading
Barry, I'd really love to see a video on your thoughts since moving to Cubase. I'm a 10 year Pro Tools user, and currently on the Cubase trial and going thru Chris Selim's video course. There are some things that I'm concerned about, and I'd really find it insightful to hear the hurdles you jumped thru and the tips and tricks you have picked up along your journey.
I'm still Loving Cubase since first trying my son's student USB license copy. I have also tried other limited versions DAWs (Studio One & Ableton) that came with my different USB interfaces. Last year I upgraded Cubase to the Pro version, migrating from the USB dongle license model to local. Also I think Chris Selim is pretty good too.
Celebrating 11, almost 12 years on Studio One after 25 + years on Cubase since v1.0. I only use PT when I absolutely HAVE to, to just get the stems, which I then bring in to Studio One and do my job and then put them back in the PT session to send back. Folks I work with have NO idea! I live in eternal hope that PT will support the .dawproject format so that I don't have to use PT ever again. Obese chance.
I’m a studio one user and looooove the workflow. I’ve produced close to 800 recordings now, and have never felt the need to use protools. (As it happens, I jumped off the avid ship when the Sibelius fiasco happened…)
I tried protools back in 2009 and bought the M box and when I seen the u.i, i said this looks like my windows pc i had in school in 1994. Sold the whole pc and m box a month later.😂 I use studio one and FL Studio. Never using protools. I can drag and drop an effect plugin onto one piece/clip of audio in studio one and that would be the only time it activates, on that individual clip.
I’ve tried some others and own a few, but still find myself always coming back and using Pro Tools. Especially compared to Logic, the audio editing is just so much better IMO. I have been using it for 18 years and still love firing it up everyday for work. It’s been nice seeing them add some midi fx support as well.
I just downloaded reaper free. Just starting out on this type of recording DAW. More of an analog simple guy. It looks pretty easy for me to work with. I have a lot of learning to do. I bought a soundcraft desk that you can plug into a computer and mix on it, but i don't know where to start. reason i like the idea is to record multiple tracks at same time. Time to start learning.
I spent years on learning a few DAWs as much as I can . FL Studio , Ableton live, Bitwig, ST1 until I hit Cubase. A painful 3 months learning curve to make a basic light song and I AM IN AWE. How in the hell I missed this DAW.
I've been a Cubase user from the start. I actually started on an Atari 520 with Steinberg Pro24 - a midi only recorder. A few years later I opened a commercial studio and bought PARIS by Ensoniq. It was a game-changer at the time. Avid bought them out and killed the DAW (which had a couple of hardware components - converters and a fader interface) and took over that market niche by killing the competition. I went back to Steinberg and started using Cubase for audio and MIDI sometime around 2000. I've been a Cubase only user since then.
Admittedly i vibe well with PT. Only DAW I’ve used in 15 yrs. But im tired of $36/month when i rarely work with audio any more. No more. I’m in Luna now and despite some bugs and obvious features that SHOULD be there and arent, it fits my bill. And its gorgeous. Also, Luna sounds better than PT. Flat out with almost no plugins running my recorded tracks clearly sound better right off the bat. Either way, i feel you Barry. Avid got too big for their briches.
Your description of Avid is a textbook example of the predator - prey relationship. Eventually, predators consume so much prey that there's no more prey to feed the predators. Then, this impacts the predator's ability to survive. You can also see it happening in society, where people in general (the prey) can no longer afford to buy the things that enrich the predators. Avid has followed the same trajectory. It wouldn't take much to get the company back on track, but whoever's pulling the strings doesn't seem that interested in making it happen.
Hello! I am using Logic, Cubase, Pro tools and Ableton working with clients. Pro tools is still the industry standard if you are working in a professional studio environment. It must be said that different DAWS have their own pros and cons some are much more suited for production and editing and others are better for mixing or recording. In addition, I will say that recording studios are definitely not dead... this is quite an outdated statement from my observation. Actually, I'd say that many people have realized that you will not be able to get the same recording and mixing quality at your home studio because many if not all professional studios own a wide selection of high quality mics, which are quite expensive. And not to mention that studios were designed for recording music in mind. Recording studios are designed with appropriate acoustics for recording and mixing implications. and a lot of them have speakers and equipment that most people cannot afford. A lot of clients I work and have worked with bring their home made productions to be continued or finalized in the studio. Weather it's recording additional parts, re-recording entire projects or mixing the already existing material. Apple silicon rocks though!
Bolo Da Producer sent me here.
Ditto
same
Boloooooooooo
As a person that worked for Avid in the 00's and early 2010's, and watched so much amazing talent pushed out or off-shored, it's fun to watch this.
Switched from Pro Tools to Logic Pro about 6 years ago and never looked back. Best $200 ever spent.
Yep. But LAP extremely outdated. Still not have export stems. Still have not modern UI for 27 y.o. synths with pixelisation on whole interface. It's a shame. Moving to Studio One from 30 years been with Logic. Best $199.
@@jklight3795 Studio One isn't 199, stop the lies. They are nearing Avid with those tiering and subscription. The only cheap DAW today is Logic Pro and Reaper.
I use Ableton/Logic Pro . If I had my druthers I’d just use ableton 11 but I have clients that use logic.
Reaper 4+ years. $60 and it's mine forever. Support community is excellent.
I did that 10 years ago and CAN HARDLY WAIT TO PAY WHEN THE SUB PERIOD FINISHES. I love it so much. This after 20 fucking years dicking with Mac-based DAW.
2025...the world's your oyster, bro. Get what you can afford and make music quickly. I also avoid the fuck out of plugin review sites and elitist audio channels. Too much distraction. At some point, you will figure out what works for you as a producer and mixer and engineer. So...stick to those things and bonus points if you use the cheapest, easiest tech available. It's never the gear, it's the engineer.
Happy New Year, bro.
I am using Reaper since 2013 without any problem. It has the same possibilities as Pro Tools.
Yep. If you're dealing mostly with recording, mixing and manipulating audio I think Reaper is the best DAW available. I don't think it's the best songwriting platform, but it's endlessly flexible on the engineering side.
Used Cakewalk until it became SONAR and ran almost every version of SONAR until 2013 when I started using Reaper... Reaper to this day, and it runs circles around anything else that I could benchmark against it. Reaper supported common hardware interfaces and maintains low latency with ASIO drivers. I lost my recording space and now most of the gear is in storage. It was a good run, but I never saw the benefit to spending $25K on additional computer hardware for Pro Tools like my friends. I still have an 18-port Focusrite interface in a 4-sp rack and can take my tracking studio and microphones anywhere necessary.
I think it's all bull, I have used protools for 20 years, open project, arm record, record, edit mix awesome result great music, yes it is about great music. Its not rocket Science
Avid cling to their claim of being the “ industry standard” without seeming to realise that “the industry” isn’t out there any more. They continue to price their products as if they’re selling to multimillion dollar studios. Meanwhile we’re all sitting in our home studios using other companies products 😂
Same with Sibelius, their music notation software. They’re so busy trying to milk their existing customers without offering any ongoing value that they are blind.
Finale…a major competitor…folded recently. Dorico scrambled to win over the people who were going to change products. Avid and Sibelius? Nothing. SMH…
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Don't forget Musescore.@@kellygreenii
Left PT for reaper many years ago.
Reaper crushes PT in every aspect
they are getting pinched. Audio post production is the standard but they dont want to lower prices to appeal to indie music studios and get less money from that industry.
Cubase Pro 14 is a BEAST !!!!!
preach
Been working as a professional composer and producer for 12 years for some of the biggest clients in the industry. They had us use Pro Tools in uni and it was clear from the beginning that this was not the platform for people who want to write music as well as mix. I have been using Cubase for 90% of those 12 years (10% was Logic 9) and never had to look anywhere else for my professional/creative needs. And yes there have been times when the system was pushed to its limits but there were easy ways to manage this (indeed special thanks to Chris Selim for more than half of those tips). Never saw the need for Pro Tools, still can’t. Big ups for the upfront and honest video.
Literally got the "your pro tools expired" today. Studio one is a one time payment 😂
Not really. Studio One works very similarly to Pro Tools. But they were just selling it for insanely cheap for new users like 200. But 150 to upgrade from 6 to 7. It's not as expensive as Pro Tools for sure but it works exactly the same if you have a Perpetual license. You need to pay for each version upgrade Pro Tools you need to pay a bit more whenever you want one more year of upgrades.
Anytime Barry gets on here and starts talking about Pro tools I get the popcorn and drinks ready and put it on the big screen cause it's about to be a good one! PROTOOLS DONT MATTER😂
Couldn’t agree more. I also stopped using Waves plugins since they started charging for updates.
Same here I only use waves real auto tuner other then I got all alternatives for other waves plug-ins
@@djsampha Agreed! Saved for a few plugins, wave tune included for me as well, I barely pay attention to 'em since they pulled the sub only move in 2022 or 23 and reversed course when the inevitable backlash hit. Also, UAD allowing usage of their native plugins with 3rd party gear was the final nail in the coffin for my relationship with Waves.
Same, don’t miss 95% of them. Waves was the el-cheapo plugin vendor. They abandoned that, so…bye.
AMEN on Waves!!!! I was so damn upset when I initially found out how much I was going to have to pay out to update the plugins I had, I just decided to leave Waves alone altogether.
Best thing that happened to me in 2021 was my 2012 Mac Pro dying and finally getting off of ProTools totally. At 46, getting a Tascam Model 24 and going back to old school analog racks was the best decision for me financially and creatively. I don’t miss ProTools at all. Learning audio engineering in 1997 was pivotal being that daw’s were in their infancy and analog was still the standard. So grateful to have learn on SSL and Neve consoles, now I feel right at home with my current setup.
Absolutely. I learned on MCI JH636 console and JH24 tape and another place I worked on a Trident console with a Studer tape machine. If it wasn't so expensive, I'd love to record that way now. Are you recording to an external drive from the Tascam?
@@Scott__CThat’s awesome! I’m going from the Tascam to a ART MPA PRO for tube saturation then to a AudioScape G Buss comp to glue the mix and then print to a Tascam DP-03 which has mastering functionality. I’m trying to stay out of the box primarily.
@@RasCuban33 Cool! I do have to say when I first saw an edit on the computer, it beat the heck out of cutting tape. But everything else was very cool.
I switched from PT to the tascam model 24 too! Love it!
I'm just an aspiring hobbyist. When I first got into this, I paid for a subscription to pro tools because I heard that's what serious folks used. I had nothing but problems getting it to play nice with my brand new PC and other programs. It crashed all the time and I got new-learner discouraged and made no progress with this hobby for a year. Then I was surprised by a renewal charge, that's my fault for auto subscribing to renewal, but dang, that they didn't give me notice they were going to renew ticked me off. So I switched to Reaper. Wonderful program. Love it. When finale called it quits, I had to decide what I was going to migrate to for my musical scoring program. Avid owns Sibelius. Guess which program wasn't even to be considered as a replacement? Finale was another program that wouldn't play nice and was hard to use, moved to musescore. It's 10X easier to use and does all I need. Avid can go rot.
Dropped PT for Cubase over a decade ago and never looked back!
Cubase Pro 14 is the BEST !!!!
same here!
You mentioned it here, your honesty and straight forward manner is very very appreciated and what causes me to continue to follow you. Keep doing what you're doing man!
reaper for life, 15 yrs in, has never let us down, ya want a different feature, somebody's written the code, copy an paste, bang custom update, reaper uber alles
StudioOne FTW! Let's hope Fender keeps letting PreSonus do their thing.
100%!! And I teach Protools at Uni but do all my work in Studio One, including Atmos!!!
Boy we have come along way since the Digi 001 days...
And I had one too😁
@@BarryJohns Same here. It was a good piece of gear for the time.
Logic Pro is that deal!!!
There is no logic to logic its as stupid slow and usless as PT. Any other daw will blow logic out the water anyday even reaper and its free smh
If I have a Mac I definitely choose Logic Pro as my DAW, I think they have a great deal for Apple customers and I'm not a fan of Apple products, don't like closed systems.
The best ❤
It doesn't utilize efficiency cores... other daws do
@@carlosserrano3985 Every system is closed in one way or another.
10 mins in and there it is: Private equity.
I was a Pro Tools user for more than 10 years, then I made a huge upgrade to Reaper.
5k is crazy. I just got an M3 Max 16” 128GB 8TB. Okay it was expensive but my word it’s a beast. I don’t think I’ve gone past 15% on the cpu. I keep throwing Kontakts and Neural DSP amps and Reason Rack Plugins and it refuses to budge. This is true whether I’m using Cubase, Logic, Live or Reason. It’s actually amazing. The world has moved on and someone forgot to tell Avid (or they’re just pretending it hasn’t!).
Yea, I just bought an insanely powerful M4 Pro Mac Mini for 1/3 the cost of that Pro Tools card. Avid is crazy.
M2 Max Studio here - with audio, I can't see needing anything more - as a practical matter. I use a TON of VST's, guitar effects processors, and more. It doesn't break a sweat. Video editing is also superb - beyond anything I will ever use. I guess the new M4's do swifter rendering of the 3D Fusion stuff in Davinci, but its only a little bit choppy at 4K 60 the first time you play it through.
I have to thank Avid, if it wasn't for them going to a subscription service, I would still be with them, and I wouldn't have found Reaper. I love Reaper. So, thanks again for sticking it to us so we could look elsewhere.
Im 34 this year. Ive been using FL STUDIO sunce i was 10, protools from 2010-2020 got tired bouncing my beat stems from fl studio to protools. Started recording on FL STUDIO.
I cracked FL Studio as a teen then bought the complete edition in College. ImageLine is a great company.
Greedy companies with subscription models go down the drain in our times. Avid is a great example.
Just like you I was a Pro Tools Accel, then TDM , and HDX user because of compatibility with others working in the industry, when Pro Tools 11 came out I started using Logic Pro more and more since it was just my artist 95% or the time working with me. I sold my Avid gear and never looked back. Logic was $199 in 2013 and in 2025 I haven't paid 1 single upgrade since! Reaper, and Logic are about the best values for DAW software out there!
Apple Logic Pro. Buy once, and you own it for life. It’s a no brainer. Logic is an astonishing program.
Second Hand AVID hardware and a little help from R2R and you get a perpetual studio with every plugin you can point a stick at for a Grand! Love it
Made the same decision over 25 years ago and haven’t looked back once in regret. Overpriced overhyped and greedy is right. Same story with their video editing software and hardware. Good on you for sharing and coming to see the light.
I am shocked the HDX cards are still in production. The Texas Instruments DSP chip is an antique at this point in time. The original data sheet is dated October 2007!!!!
At this point as soon as a software company gets bought out by private equity, I start looking for a replacement. My threshold for putting up with toxic BS from these clowns is zero.
This! I dodged a bullet when I doubled down on Cubase in 2018. I was on the fence for a while.
Some of us do in fact enjoy Pro Tools. I've used everything else but Logic and Studio One. I always come back. I've also not paid Avid a penny in years. My perpetual version 12.4 still works like a champ and supports every plugin and instrument I could ever want or need to use.
Yeah, Avid can choke on a bag of footlongs, but know that some of us do actually prefer working in PT.
I'm actually in your EXACT same situation: PT12.4 on my old PC, and never paid them a DIME on subscription. That said, it's feeling kinda long-of-tooth, so I just bought a new Mac Mini Pro M4 and am going to LUNA (with an Apollo Thunderbolt interface and a bunch of their plugs that I already have). I own Studio One and will probably try out Logic as well. We'll see how the "feel" is on Luna, but from everything I've seen on TH-cam and other reviews, it looks like it will do everything I need and has a lot of the same shortcuts and setup as PT.
Luna is great, I would love it to my main DAW but hardware inserts are the biggest issue for me. Sure there are workarounds but it’s just a hassle
@@anthony6399 Ya, I heard about that. I haven't used external hardware much, although I have a lot of it and would like to do more in the future. One of the things I like about Luna is how they are constantly updating and improving it. They have a "feedback" feature built right into it and apparently listen and respond to their users requests quite a bit. That is one of the biggest requests for Luna right now, so I'm hopeful that that will be coming soon.
Agreed. Tried Nuendo and reaper for two years and came back to Pro Tools. The workflow is unsurpassed for mixing and editing. Other DAWs are wonderful at what they do, but if you need to professionally mix and edit tv, music and film all day, Pro Tools can’t be beat…yet.
@@RussReiterMusic if you've never used logic or studio one I would argue that you've gotten comfortable, and don't know what you're missing.Like automating, anything at any time on any track just by doing it, or by dragging or duplicating a track instantly and intuitively without going into menus. I could name dozens of functions where PT is stuck in the past but whatever works for you.
It was crazy in the 00s when Protools and DD were required for people to take you seriously. People who knew nothing about it, but just wanted to come and record would opt for other places if a studio didnt use Protools. I was certified in PT in 02 but after working at a studio that used Digital Performer, I never used PT on my machine again.
As one person posted, Cubase is so '90's. Studio One is a lot slicker, in a lot of ways. One thing to worry about when moving away from PT, is equal delay compensation across all tracks - otherwise you'll have phasing issues. Reaper, e.g., doesn't seem to have gotten the memo. S1 also is lenient about copy protection, has a lower price than Cubase; and you don't have to be opening and closing windows so much. More than 8 fx/track, anyone? That's just begins to scratch the surface with S1. I can only hope the S1 pricing and policies stay similar now that Fender has taken it over; because they have a really good product on their hands, IMHO. It reportedly has even fx delay compensation across all tracks, like PT, but unlike Reaper. I admit S1 can seem hard to use at 1st, but then it gets easier, and other DAWs then seem clunky.
I stopped using Avid hardware and software more than 10 years ago and I haven't ever missed using it :)
Studio One is my go to
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 I support what you say, ship is sinking....
Cubase gang! I see you !🫡
Paid for a Pro Tools Ultimate subscription, ended up using FL Studio as my main producing DAW and Studio One as my more technical one. A thousand times more affordable, and a billion times easier to work with.
Cubase/Nuendo is the GOAT 🔥
I couldn’t agree more. The only reason we still use Media Composer in the industry is because of these age old workflows from offline to online and then to delivery. I only use MC when I’m required to do so. I use Resolve to cut everything else.
I love a good rant about software I don't use.
makes me feel smart and that I did something right from the get go 😂
I will be forever thankful to a professor I had who taught a class on home recording with virtual instruments. Every other class used Pro Tools or Avid for video editing, he asked the school to put Cubase and Logic on all the computers. It was amazing.
I could get around Pro Tools fine. But Logic and Cubase were so much easier. They were so much more inspiring to use.
I use Studio One now and get that same feeling. Anything but Pro Tools at this point. I love Cubase, Logic, and Studio One.
We own most of the DAWs for compatibility with clients (Studio One and Logic are favs) but honestly the zero latency of our HDX Pro Tools is key for tracking large sessions with DSP plugins, and the DSP for 16 channel routing to headphone mixers, again, with zero latency, is handy. Sure, we could do it with our large format console but it's a pain. We might use Reaper for live remotes for its stability, but instead use Metric Halo's DAW "Session" because it's equally or more stable and the routing for headphones, etc is superb. Metic Halo's DAW "Session" is deadly.
This: zero latency
couldn't you get almost zero latency from an RME interface and their software?
@@tomrogers2790 Good point! Possibly, but since we're in the Metric Halo universe (which is impressively well thought out IMHO) we just use those with all their DSP and low latency. We do so much tracking that latency is just one of those issues we don't even want to think about. Cheers
with digital audio, zero latency is a rounding error.
I remember going completely ITB with Logic in about 2004 with no external DSP, just an external PCI-based interface and recording with software monitoring. Admittedly I wasn't recording huge numbers of tracks, perhaps 8 max, but I was astonished how well it worked, how much software was included, how cheap it was, how much fun it was to use (except the dreaded "environment"...) and how well it played with whatever interface I owned. At the same time, I witnessed other producers with *functionally inferior* setups running on super-expensive computers with super-expensive DSP and super-expensive interfaces. All those people got financially COOKED when their gear needed replacing and I just couldn't understand their loyalty to go and REBUY it all!
Excuse me for my ignorance I haven't dug into this topic yet but if I was to switch to a program other than pro tools is there any daw on the market that can open PT session files? ... That would be one of my biggest concerns is wanting to open up an older session or having a client hit me up about an older session... That would be a concern and also learning how to transition from years of knowing all the quick keys and shortcuts
Reaper and Audition have always been my favorite tools! Really glad you can't be bought, Mr. Johns. Keep fighting the good fight!
I’ve been using Luna lately and I’m really liking it
Thanks!
I’ve been running Pro Tools ultimate/ HDX on a Mac Pro 5.1 using Martin Lo’s open core package. The most stable system I’ve had, it was like getting a new computer. I’ve been trying for the last 3 years to upgrade to silicon, the 5.1 system still is capable of massive mixers using Softube, UAD, plugin alliance etc before adding DSP to the mix.
Tracking with HDX is seamless. I also run vsts, albeit only about 10 before things get crunchy on the old 5.1, but nevertheless it still works.
I am hoping to upgrade to a Mac Studio M4, as I am writing more and I feel it’s now time to retire the the old Mac Pro 5.1, but what an incredible journey over the past 15years. Without HDX this wouldn’t have been possible. Prior to the 5.1 I was upgrading computers every 2-3 years to be able to run new software.
After the latest ARA and Midi updates, Protools is looking like it’s heading in the right direction…..finally! I come from a Cubase background.
Happy that I never jumped on the Avid train. Thanks for sharing your story Barry! 🙏
I don’t usually wish ill on a company, but Avid might be an exception. 😒Between their shady practices and abysmal customer service, they’re earning every bit of the backlash. Great video 👏👏
We started with Mix + and then HDX as well but the rise of better, faster, more creative DAW’s and cash grab subscription models finally made us see the light. Then when Apple silicon came along, there was no turning back. Best decision ever for a full time working studio.
Well explained
Thanks foy speaking up
New subscriber here. Great channel. I got an email from Adobe stating they’re gonna be raising their subscription fee again. I hope people will say heck no to these companies trying to suck all of your hard earned money out of your pockets. Thank you 🙏🏾
*DAG GUM THAT VIDEO LOOKS GREAT!*
Barry you got me with the click bait, I thought you were going to Segway and talk about Tegeler Audio. Great video by the way.
Same
As soon as they went to a subscription model, I jumped ship!
5:02 - you almost hit the mark, this company hasn't seen any bonuses in the past four years and I'm telling you as a employee lol
Its the board members who get the bonuses
Digital Performer F O R E V E R 🌟
Never owned protools. I did want it back in the 90s but couldn’t afford it. Discovered Cubase in 2001 and never turned back. On Cubase 14 now and it does everything I need it to do plus more. So many very good daws out there. I’ve had some experience with protools working in other studios. Never was impressed. But it does get the job done. Each to his own but unless things change drastically I’ll be a Cubase guy.
yeah, I worked on Pro Tools in studios before but those experiences never made me change my home DAW which never been Pro Tools.
As a Studio One user... they are going down the EXACT SAME AVID road now... It sucks.
Why would anyone bother with Pro Tools, Reapers costs $60 and can actually do FAR more than Pro Tools. There is 1 reason and 1 reason only to have Pro Tools now, and that is because a lot of established industry people use it, that s literally the only reason.
Some folks will turn their nose up, but that's cool, they can go pay $500, I will go pay $60 , get a more stable, far less CPU intensive, ALL plugin format options, multiple Video editing capacities, every single function you have in Pro Tools and every other DAW for that matter (Reaper is like the Linux of DAW systems without compatibility issues)
You can even make Reaper look and shortcut like Pro Tools. There is no reason to be tied to ProTools in 2025
I could say something good to other daw, but not reaper. If you have a lot of time learning it yeah sure, but reaper workflow is pretty convoluted compared to something like cubase, logic and studio one. At least to me
Reaper’s selling point was never the low price for me, it was always the functionality, customization, and stability. It’s just insane…I’d pay 5x for it.
What takes me 30 mins in fl studio takes me 2-3 days in pro tools. But FL hasn't been the same since they added a cloud. Studio One 7 user now. It's not as smooth as fl but is worth every penny and some
I've been using Cubase since their Cubase 5 . now I'm on Cubase 12 pro
THANKS FOR YOUR GREATR WORK IN THIS VIDEO:)
Avid come with the lawyer threats.thats a damn shame 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Fluff needs to watch Barry's videos LOL.
He does.
I first bought Pro Tools in 2000 with an Audiomedia 3 and Apple G3. It was great. I switched to Ableton at version 6, and now on 12. Still keep a pro tools (MP9) rig but it's only superior for audio editing and mixing. Ableton get's it done in so many more ways for me. Ableton 12, M4 pro and an Apollo Solo is all i need.
Nuendo or Cubase for tracking and Mixbus Pro for mixing. Studio One Pro 7 is also very nice.
I miss Nuendo…. Easily the best editing software out there. I’ve been in Studio One for 10 years now but still find myself trying to use the Nuendo shortcuts!
@nicefish10 I'm still using both. Nuendo is really overkill for what I do given I'm not using anything but the recording facilities, meaning all I really need is Cubase but Steinberg had a fantastic crossgrade and I just couldn't resist. It did mean giving up my Cubase license at the time, as this was with they were still using the eLicense dongle. Well, if I ever need the video and ADR stuff, at least, I'll already have the tools, but I agree with you that its editing capabilities are second to none.
I thank you for your honest opinion. I've been going back and forth about joining the protools family ever since my artist started gaining attention from major labels and when we worked in there studios with all the best gear you can ask for only to find out they were primarily using protools with a avid audio interface and u87 for 90% of there tracking only for the end product to sound just the same at my home studio using logic with an Apollo Twin x on a slate VMS-ML1 with the virtual mix rack with the same mic options. At the end of the day we all were sold on the idea of needing pro tools to be considered true pros, but slowly learn we can do the same with a better quality daw of our choosing for a lot less.
The way I have to record I use Midi Drums some midi keys and I do Bass and electric guitar myself as well as the vocals. It's just all for fun but I want the best sound I can manage! I built my PC to do whatever I needed but there is always a ceiling. I got 44 tracks on this newest project that runs several plugins on most of them. It's pretty cool how a PC can run so much! Sometimes I run guitar amp sims as well so that is all taxing on the CPU! I have a 10 core dual thread CPU that is over clocked to 5 ghtz per core and it shows 20 cores in the monitor software for windows. So it really does a LOT! it shows 5100 Mhtz right now whatever that brings it to. Just keep the CPU cool with a great cooling system and you can overclock unlocked CPU's and still be stable.
As soon as digidesign sold to avid pro tools was over...i was lucky i get out right after my 002 board died...i went with a few options until i found reaper and found it to be my favorite daw with way more flexibility and option than avid would ever dream to even upsell for pt...idk anyone but some really old school hold outs with their hd boards from 15 years ago
It's not just the HDX core process, the HDX has a superior sound to any USB interface because the HDX bypasses the Mac's Core audio to provide a much cleaner sound quality.
I started using Media Composer back in the early 90s on a Quadra 950 and 4 8GB drives that held 36 minutes of barely broadcast quality SD NTSC video. I think the setup cost $150,000 of the TV station’s money. Can’t say that I “hated it,” because the alternatives were worse. However, even then the software was bloated and the technical support team didn’t completely understand it. (30 years later, I still remember the Tech Support phone number, if that tells you anything about how often I dialed it!) Still, we produced some good TV that I’m still proud of today. Also, having “X years of Media Composer experience” was a useful resume line around the turn of the century. I put AVID products in my past when I realized I could outfit 4 Final Cut Pro systems for the price of one MC suite… with money left over to buy furniture!
Gotta be honest I use Pro tools because that’s what I learned on when going to film school. I do music production now as well and I tried Logic and Ableton for a couple years but when I tried Pro Tools again some second nature and memory just made it where I flowed better through sessions. I do hate the price but it’s just a platform I learned on and I guess I’m kind of afraid now to try new stuff. I also don’t know (that’s a clue that I have to research I guess) how many people are using other software for audio film postproduction. I know a guy that uses Logic but when sending to the mastering engineer or even the mixing engineer they will use pro tools but maybe it’s just cause the same reason that they’re old and used to it. Quite a reflexive video for me, maybe I’ll dedicate a day or two a week to start learning something like reaper. thanks for uploading
Steinberg Nuendo or Magix Sequoia would be something for you.
Reaper covers everything a modern daw needs and is almost free!
@@Alex_Martz True Reaper is excellent, is my second DAW option, Studio One is my main.
Depends on what you're doing. Reaper is a great tool, but there are different tools better suited for certain tasks.
@Kevinschart Agree, Reaper is excellent but I used for other things that I do, my main DAW is Studio One v7 (Upgraded from v5 Pro Recently).
You are the Scotty Kilmer of Audio Recording🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rev up your audio engines !!!!!
Barry, I'd really love to see a video on your thoughts since moving to Cubase. I'm a 10 year Pro Tools user, and currently on the Cubase trial and going thru Chris Selim's video course. There are some things that I'm concerned about, and I'd really find it insightful to hear the hurdles you jumped thru and the tips and tricks you have picked up along your journey.
I’ve been with Logic Pro X for the past 9 years
I'm still Loving Cubase since first trying my son's student USB license copy. I have also tried other limited versions DAWs (Studio One & Ableton) that came with my different USB interfaces. Last year I upgraded Cubase to the Pro version, migrating from the USB dongle license model to local. Also I think Chris Selim is pretty good too.
My last avid product was the audio media three card which I used with cakewalk on a PC. It was a great product that was limited to eight tracks.
Celebrating 11, almost 12 years on Studio One after 25 + years on Cubase since v1.0. I only use PT when I absolutely HAVE to, to just get the stems, which I then bring in to Studio One and do my job and then put them back in the PT session to send back. Folks I work with have NO idea! I live in eternal hope that PT will support the .dawproject format so that I don't have to use PT ever again. Obese chance.
It wouldn't cost them anything to do it, but yeah, nobody should be holding their breath.
I’m a studio one user and looooove the workflow. I’ve produced close to 800 recordings now, and have never felt the need to use protools. (As it happens, I jumped off the avid ship when the Sibelius fiasco happened…)
Congratulations! I wish you a happy new year!
I tried protools back in 2009 and bought the M box and when I seen the u.i, i said this looks like my windows pc i had in school in 1994. Sold the whole pc and m box a month later.😂 I use studio one and FL Studio. Never using protools. I can drag and drop an effect plugin onto one piece/clip of audio in studio one and that would be the only time it activates, on that individual clip.
I’ve tried some others and own a few, but still find myself always coming back and using Pro Tools. Especially compared to Logic, the audio editing is just so much better IMO. I have been using it for 18 years and still love firing it up everyday for work.
It’s been nice seeing them add some midi fx support as well.
I just downloaded reaper free. Just starting out on this type of recording DAW. More of an analog simple guy. It looks pretty easy for me to work with. I have a lot of learning to do. I bought a soundcraft desk that you can plug into a computer and mix on it, but i don't know where to start. reason i like the idea is to record multiple tracks at same time. Time to start learning.
I spent years on learning a few DAWs as much as I can . FL Studio , Ableton live, Bitwig, ST1 until I hit Cubase. A painful 3 months learning curve to make a basic light song and I AM IN AWE. How in the hell I missed this DAW.
I've been a Cubase user from the start. I actually started on an Atari 520 with Steinberg Pro24 - a midi only recorder. A few years later I opened a commercial studio and bought PARIS by Ensoniq. It was a game-changer at the time. Avid bought them out and killed the DAW (which had a couple of hardware components - converters and a fader interface) and took over that market niche by killing the competition. I went back to Steinberg and started using Cubase for audio and MIDI sometime around 2000. I've been a Cubase only user since then.
Admittedly i vibe well with PT. Only DAW I’ve used in 15 yrs. But im tired of $36/month when i rarely work with audio any more. No more. I’m in Luna now and despite some bugs and obvious features that SHOULD be there and arent, it fits my bill. And its gorgeous. Also, Luna sounds better than PT. Flat out with almost no plugins running my recorded tracks clearly sound better right off the bat. Either way, i feel you Barry. Avid got too big for their briches.
Switched from Pro Tools to Reaper . Avid did us dirty going to a subscription model. Unfortunately I still have a ton of old PTs tracks.
Your description of Avid is a textbook example of the predator - prey relationship. Eventually, predators consume so much prey that there's no more prey to feed the predators. Then, this impacts the predator's ability to survive. You can also see it happening in society, where people in general (the prey) can no longer afford to buy the things that enrich the predators. Avid has followed the same trajectory. It wouldn't take much to get the company back on track, but whoever's pulling the strings doesn't seem that interested in making it happen.
I can’t agree more with you.
Switched from Protools to Studio One and I’m NEVER going back 😅
Been saying this for years now 👌👌
Hello! I am using Logic, Cubase, Pro tools and Ableton working with clients. Pro tools is still the industry standard if you are working in a professional studio environment. It must be said that different DAWS have their own pros and cons some are much more suited for production and editing and others are better for mixing or recording. In addition, I will say that recording studios are definitely not dead... this is quite an outdated statement from my observation.
Actually, I'd say that many people have realized that you will not be able to get the same recording and mixing quality at your home studio because many if not all professional studios own a wide selection of high quality mics, which are quite expensive. And not to mention that studios were designed for recording music in mind. Recording studios are designed with appropriate acoustics for recording and mixing implications. and a lot of them have speakers and equipment that most people cannot afford. A lot of clients I work and have worked with bring their home made productions to be continued or finalized in the studio. Weather it's recording additional parts, re-recording entire projects or mixing the already existing material. Apple silicon rocks though!
Cubase and Logic Pro are nice!😁