Why I Chose Johannesburg over Cape Town: African American Living in South Africa
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Fundamentally people who ask that question have a very limited comprehension of SA both as a space and as a place. As a space, Cape Town can be alienating to black people because the City has been curated for the experiences and interfaces of European Centric experiences modified in an African context. Yes it's beautiful, absolutely as a space but as a place it doesn't resonate with a progressive South African experience especially for the black South African experience. Johannesburg is the epicentre of the African experience, it is the richest City on the continent and it's province accounts for two thirds of the South African economy. Joburg is also progressive, inclusive and accommodating to all experiences and realities both black and White. Joburg is true and honest to the South African story. Wealthy blacks, Asians and Whites. The fastest growing black middle class in the world since 2000. The space is continuously being developed and everyone is doing business with everyone. Joburg is the authentic South African experience.
Thanks for sharing this perspective. We’re all learning ❤
@luthovellem👏👏👏👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 💯 I'm in Cape Town and grew up here, and this city sees and treats black people as subhumans. Cape Town is the Western agenda with corrupt officials hiding behind European investors. Corporate racism is thriving, and there're private companies here that are getting rid of black and brown people in management positions because here black and brown people can't get paid almost what white people get paid. I also can't wait to move to joburg, I don't know when but next year I'll start applying for school for my kids
Lol grossly exaggerated. 😅.
Gauteng doesn't make 67% of SA's gdp (which you said two thirds.) It makes out 1 third of SA's gdp. Which means 33%.
Exaggeration will definitely prove no point.
I agree with you on the point you made about Cape Town, I've been here three years and it's exactly as you explained it
@@jasonjumat5070 He is probably speaking annually, on how Gauteng contributes a large percent to the economy annually
Also, Johannesburg is the only place where you can find people from all South African tribes, races and other african tribes and african americans in one place. I feel like its a place where all our spirits just agreed to come together.
This is a great point
Motherland eMzansti 🇿🇦🖤✊🏿
That is just a perception it is not true in Durban & Cape Town you get people from all provinces it might not be in large numbers.
@bonganibophela2819 We're talking in large numbers, every City in Africa you can find all different tribes, but in Johannesburg every tribe is in large numbers, we even have different communities
No they went for money, had nothing to do with "spirits".. Joburg was a gold rush city
Joburg is Atl in the late 90s. Very chill middle upper middle class. Cape Town is LA, valley vibes San Fran ect. Great video!
I grew up in KZN, studied in Durban, worked in Richards Bay, moved to Cape Town for 6 years and moved to Johannesburg last year in June and I must say, if I had to choose where to live I would choose Jo’burg over any of the other areas I mentioned. It’s a vibrant city that has opportunities for everyone.
Oh wow from KZN too I've lived in Cape Town for less than a year and getting ready to relocate to Joburg cause I just can't adjust to the city.
You don't know how much I love you right now, Ash. Generations of South Africans will thank you abundantly for loving us and this country.😊
Wow, thank you
For progressive, ambitious & 'career-chasers' - JHB is a no-brainer.
When you have achieved or are stable - Cape Town is a strong contender.
Cape Town is the place you go to retire in.
Each place has its own merit.
But please don’t even compare Cape Town to Johannesburg.
I’ve lived in all major cities,
And I without a doubt admit that Cape *Town is in league all by itself. * It’s where efficiency meets Luxury.
Life is meant to be lived. Not work your whole life and chase money for what…
Peaceful vibes ✌️
Jo'burg, with all its issues, still is the most EXCITING place in Africa.
Landscape, Cape Town really wins. It is breathtaking indeed. Fully agree
I’ve been here for 3 weeks from Atlanta. GA. One more week and I’m starting my efforts to look for a new home.
You can do it!
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It’s 6:15am over here in Miami and I’m tuned in bright and early sis lol. Can’t wait to visit and finally make the move. Keep pushing out this great content. I’m learning a lot and taking notes. We definitely need to connect 👏🏾
I’m glad it’s helpful Devante. I look forward to watching your journey!
As a Joburger I enjoy CT for holiday, it is certainly beautiful, but also much more Eurocentric as others have mentioned. A black colleague of mine lived in CT for a few years but moved to Joburg and remarked on the wealth distribution in CT being predominantly white, whereas in Joburg it is normal to be black and wealthy in Joburg. She by far preferred Joburg as she felt more "at home". That’s not to say that CT is racist, it’s just not a very welcoming city people-wise, compared to many other cities in SA.
Great points made
Cape Town is also still very racist. So you wouldn't be wrong if you said that either.
🤣IT IS RACIST..... why do you like sugar coating...whites dont want blcks in CT...facts
How could a land colonized by hostile Europeans not be considered anti black? Lol
@@coreygreene9498😂😂😂when you conveniently forget that hostile blacks migrated from central Africa at about the same time as hostile white colonisers arrived to wipe out the First Peoples of Southern Africa.
OMG this video is right on time! Yesterday I had a friend visit from out of state and we were talking about traveling and she said she wanted to visit the continent specifically Johannesburg, SA. I’ve been wanting to visit Cape Town. I will share this video with her.
Perfect! You should definitely visit both!!
Do come to cape town . You will enjoy it. 😁 But do check the weather when you planning hey .
Sounds like SA is winning having all three; Joburg, Cape Town, and Durban. I'll be visiting soon. Shout out from Houston, TX. Thx Ashley!
Every province is like a different country in South Africa, not just because of the difference in language and culture but also the landscapes.
Each province is distinct, wait until you explore Drakensberg, St Francis Bay, George, Harties, Blyde River Canyon etc.
Thank you for sharing
Me and a large group of friends visited South Africa a week ago from the states for a friend's birthday. We spent 5 days in Cape Town and 3 days in Jo'burg. At the end of the trip we all wished would've spent way more time in Jo'burg than we did. Both are great cities. But we felt a special connection with the black culture in Jo'burg that you don't quite see in Cape Town. Both are great cities though.
I agree with everything you said. SA welcomes you back very soon.
are there not black and coloured people in joburg?
I left Cape Town 20 years ago because of less opportunities and have never looked back! My career took off in Corporate. I also love Joburg weather and the people. I go to CPT for holidays cos its a beautiful city to relax and enjoy!
Thanks for sharing!!
Damn after reading the comment section the obsession and hatred for cape town is real😅
Born and bred in Cape Town. Rich Malay slave heritage tradesman culture and traditions. Very insular though. Moved to Jo'burg with wife and three sons because of work opportunity and standard of living upgrade. Worked there for most of my professional career. Beautiful diversity and cultural mix of people.
Retired in Cape Town.....just chilling gracefully in my twilight years.
Been pondering my relocation more intensely since watching this video. Being a So Cal native who grew up on these beaches I simply cannot imagine living my life and not having instant access to the water. I’d be in Joberg feeling like something is truly missing from the core of my soul. It seems as if colonizers have constipated the most beautiful geographical location where my DNA ancestors derived and it may just be the time for the winds of change to begin to blow through like a colonic and flush out the old encrusted dried up fecal matter and the parasites it hosts so that the original purpose and plans can begin to flow again. Being a highly spiritual person and an entrepreneur, I see a problem and solutions. Capetown might just need some bold Cali girl energy to come shake shit up & get it poppin. Let me go head on and get my Cape for Capetown & turn things around. Every beginning has an end and every end has a new beginning.
Love this attitude 🎉 I feel very similar as a SoCal native 🦹🏾♀️ also astrologically Cape Town is better aspected for me 🤔
Your ancestors DNA derives from West Africa, you would be the coloniser in CPT.
Just skipped car hijacking last week in Johannesburg, but my car didn’t come whole.
I have been in Cape Town for over 25years, tried to relocate in Johannesburg, but I couldn’t take it and had drive back to the mother city just after a month of being in JHB.
Joburg is accommodating, inclusive and has a nicer weather and nice people. It also has more economic opportunities and it is diverse..Cape Town is beautiful but that it about it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
cape town is better
Lovell video, South Africa has 9 provinces/states and what's more fascinating is each province is so different from another boasting it beauty and uniqueness.. whilst Cape Town and Joburg are most popular, there are lots of other not so big cities but has much beauty( no doubts) comforts and has all the conveniences that you can find in big cities schools, health care, houses, malls, restaurants, those who are into nature/rural countryside outdoor activities. There's just a plethora of options one can think of.
There are provinces that can be suitable for retirees as they offer super comfort, luxury but at a slower pace.. Mpumalanga, Eastern Cape and Kwazulu-Natal.
Personally i like Durban more the weather is the best , laid back, best private schools in the country, always warmer (thanx to Indian Ocean)
I love that you picked Durban. Can’t wait to get back!
Its funny how it narrows down to the people nucleated in these cities, Joburg people (Joburgers) perceive Cape Town to be small, cold and 'opressive' with a bit of closed off people, lack of opportunities and see Cape Townians as 'self centred' people who live in a bubble, Cape Town people (Cape Townians) perceive Joburg and fast paced and chaotic, crime ridden and 'boring' because of not being placed near a beach or a major tourist attraction, they also seem to see Joburgers as loud and flashy, these reasons fuel quite a bit of tension between opinionated people staying in these two cities, often time the negative comments for Cape Town is often from people in Joburg and vise versa
Interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing.
If you love hanging out with people then Joburg is nice but if you love adventure and endless beaches you can exist as island and be perfectly happy. Joburg people need other people because that’s the only thing to do
Me I'm Joburg, anytime, any day.
Recently moved from Jhb to CT. You're spot on in all the aspects you mention 🙂!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful
100% agree with everything you said I love the warmer cities Johannesburg and Pretoria which is even warmer than Johannesburg
This is a timely vedio, Ashley. We are making plans to visit Johannesburg next October 2024 from the US. Your information is timely. It seems like Johannesburg would be the primary location while visiting other cities as time will allow. Great work. Loyal viewer.
Glad it was helpful!
We all live in peace doesnt matter where you life or from thats the bottom line. We dont want a divide cape town vs Johannesburg.
Cape Town is beautiful for a holiday, but it is expensive for many of us, especially their houses.
But it is very beautiful with the mountains, the sea, the wine farms and Robben Island where Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison, but today it is a museum.
Another beautiful site to visit, in fact you can see it ftom Table mountain in the sea!
Having lived in all 3 major cities (JHB, CPT and DBN) I found CPT as a good mix of all 3 depending on where you go. But cost of living is most economical in DBN for sure. I'm biased because I'm from that province.
ur not even biased Durbna is really less expensive lived in cpt for year and i dint like the pricing
Tell me about Cape Town weather geez! It's so unpredictable 😢it can be summer,winter autumn in one day🙆
It really is
I remember the first time you visited Cape Town. I think you were still living in Tanzania. You were so in love with the city and even talked about considering living there. The whole time watching that video I was like, "She's gonna choose Jo'burg"
You got me!
😂😂😂😂 good one
Just wanted to say how much I'm enjoying your videos! Your insights are spot-on, and I really appreciate the thoughtful points you're making.
I couldn't help but think it would be even more amazing if you could include more visuals of your city in your videos. Your descriptions paint such a vivid picture, and it would be awesome to see more of the places you're talking about as you discuss them.
Nevertheless, your content is truly engaging, and I always look forward to what you have to say. Keep up the fantastic work!
Great content. I love, love, love your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I love both cities , I juggle between the two and have family from both sides. Cape Town is laid back and slow paced, it’s a good place to relax when you are tired of the hustle and bustle of Johannesburg.
Totally agree!
You are spot on 🎯. Summed up everything so well.
Glad you think so!
Thanks for this video! This is exactly what I needed. I was pondering questions about culture in each city. I'm putting my itineraries together now to visit both cities.
Glad it was helpful!
i go with JHB, any day anytime. it comes down to the people for me. jhb people are more warm than here in Cape Town.
Thanks Ash for investing in Africa. From South Africa with Love.
As someone who has lived in both cities.....every single point in this video is on point!
please just come to Durban, you will love it because it has the combinations of what you like from both cities. 🔥🔥
I can't wait 'til you review Durban. I have yet to go there.
Johannesburg has a special energy all of it's own ❤
I love Gauteng in General as a Pretorian and there shouldn't be rivalry between these two lovely cities because they both serve different purposes.
CT is a city with better quality of life and has many natural beauty that you will marvel at hands down, however its not good for business especially when you want to establish yourself and you are looking for opportunities. More so when you want to build a career opportunities are more available in JHB.
JHB is the melting pot of everything, if you work hard in creating connections and network i can guarantee you that you will have more opportunities coming your way, JHB people in general are so warm and welcoming, and they are so free to share information that will open opportunities with you. People in JHB are not much scarce mentality because of opportunities that surround them. One last thing is that you will never run out things to do even on the budget.
Thank for sharing your thoughts. You made some great points!
@isoboy100 And what about the cotemporary art scene? People told me the place to be when it comes to contemporary art scene is JHB. Could you confirm this?
I really love your country. South Africa has a brilliant future. You should be proud of your achievement in such a short period of time we in Europe we have centuries of "democracy" and still not able to fix a lot of issue we have. Hello from Madrid Sp.
Opportunities in JHB are starting to decline as many businesses are relocating to CPT, as well as international companies preferring CPT over JHB.
@@pietervorster5690 Thats your opinion but is not true, Cape Town is becoming a digital nomad capital; which means the renting business will boom but it gentrifies the living spaces the locals used to enjoy and because the dollar tenants are coming to town most locals are going to be relegated to properties away from the tourists areas which will further cause the economic disparities we are already seeing in Cape Town.
You can even check the exparts who are coming back to SA they are equally choosing Joburg because of how real estate is being overpriced, they realised that they don't have to live in Cape Town to enjoy it. Gauteng has most young population, Schools, tertiary institutions, corporate businesses and upward mobility in Joburg is more faster in Joburg than in Cape Town. Those are ingredients that Cape Town lacks but yes quality of life is better in Cape Town but younger generation choose to make money then retire in WC.
My conclusion is, Gauteng in general will never run out of new generation of younger people seeking opportunities yearly and to add on that it's not only a certain colour of people who are making it here but all people of all colour, i can't say the same about Western Cape in general. We need that melting pot as a nation to succeed.
I've lived in both cities, the reason why CT is generally more expensive is due to the property market. Cape Town property is more expensive whether renting or buying and because property is probably our single biggest expense CT then becomes more expensive, on average. Also JHB has a greater variety ito of price, which makes JHB more accessible to lower income people. But other than that the cost of everyday things are the same in Durban, Cape Town or Durban.
Thanks for sharing this perspectives. Makes so much sense
Its called gatekeeping....the property is ridiculously expensive, on purpose....they are trying to keep blck people out of capetown. because they know not many blck people would not be able to buy/rent property there...
Great info, thanks.
Definitely 💯😁, Best Weather 🌡️ Gauteng....😊 I agree with you, CapeTown is cold
It really is
Great video and nice to hear the difference between these two cities from someone who was not born in SA. Even though you've been in SA for some time.. Wamkelekile Ekhaya Sisi ( welcome home Sis) ♥
Can't wait to hear your experience concerning Durban once you take your vacation there.
Looking forward to being in Durban again
All facts . I lived In Cape Town for 8 years and you summarised it perfectly. The only other thing I noticed was that Cape Town felt safer and better governed (in suburban areas) than in JHB which was a big Pro in comparison
Thanks for sharing
Yes it's safer & much more cleaner especially in the city center. I love Joberg but noway does it compare to Cape Town. 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 🇿🇦
very informative thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this insight, heading there next year, went to Joburg, but never in Cape town
Love to hear it and glad this was helpful
I agree with people saying Cape Town isn't as welcoming for black South Africans like Joburg is. But having lived there for university, I had a blast. University experience makes living there better because the university space is very mixed ethnically. I still prefer Cape Town for its cleanliness, safety compared to Joburg and convenience (travelling wise). If Joburg can get a competent local government, it might end up being the best city in the country.
I can see how the university experience would be totally different. I’d love for my girls to go to UCT
@@AshleyinAfrika I would like to know from you, I don't know if you've made a video on it but when it comes to identity, is it a lot more challenging for you? Are you usually mistaken for a coloured woman? Do tick black when they want your details and ethnicity?
Lastly, have you made any black South African friends who can take you to the townships so you can truly connect with the black African experience?
I probably going to visit Johannesburg next year to see the difference between Cape Town, and Johannesburg since I visited Cape Town and I love it because of the ocean and Cape point. My friend from Cape Town told me Johannesburg don’t have beaches there but they have parks. I know when I visited next year probably this time next year when the weather is much better.
Jacarandas Jhb summer love it.
Good morning from the states.. It's 6:05 am eastern time here. Shout out from North Charleston SC girl! Keep up the amazing content 👏🏿 👌🏿 ✨️
Thanks for watching!
It's in the afternoon over here in South Africa 13:00 to be precise.
6:47 Jacarada trees are bautiful, they also turn purple once a year in Oct-Nov.
This was an amazing breakdown of the two cities! I am a property lawyer and realtor in Cape Town and Johannesburg and would love to collab with you! I love your content ❤
Joburg's proximity to Pretoria makes more sense for me. You have the luxury of switching between spending your weekends in JHB, Midrand, Centurion or Pretoria without feeling caged in or having to drive long hours. Cape Town is a better holiday destination.
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you can choose whatever and wherever you want luv - the country is massive.
Hi Ashley, really enjoying this video.I am desiring to visit Durban.Ready to leave the USA.Retired Rn looking to have peace in whatever time God is giving me in this life.Hope to get to communicate with you one day.Blessings.🙏💞💖😀🤗😁😁
Good video. I will be in SA next month. I cannot wait to vsit. I will be in CT for five days, then I want to visit Durban, then Joburg.
Have fun!
Very unbiased and nuanced breakdown. This is why l like your channel.
Definitely a Jozi guy (when I’m in SA). 😅
Thanks so much for watching!
@@AshleyinAfrika Pleasure 😄
Hi Ashley, good observations. One thing you forget is the speed of the stay. business wise . Joburg has that speed of bigger cities like New York
The seven apostles at the back drop of Camps bay😮my God!! It looks like heaven on earth!
12 Apostles
Congratulations! You know all our languages!
To us South Africans Cape Town is more like London,cold and wet. Joburg is warm and more African.
Most South Africans live in Joburg znd holiday in Cape Town
I think your opinion is very relevant experience and educational experience.
Thank you. Glad it was helpful.
Over and above all, whether you choose JHB or CPT, or even North West for that matter, I just hope you enjoying every bit of your stay. Sending love from JHB ❤.
Ashley you look South African, you can easily pass off as Tswana, Xhosa or Coloured. Has someone ever mistaken you for someone they know around here ?
People do speak to me in vernac so I’d assume that’s a, Yes
She's black so black people are going to assume she's South African without even thinking because in general most SAns wouldn't think that a black person would leave USA for SA and there's very very few African Americans in SA. In terms of your question, she actually looks American.
I can't stand it when people say stuff like "You look South African" or "You look Tswana," Zulu, Xhosa, Tsonga and all that. It's not cool at all, i know you trying to be nice and complementary but there's just something weird about those phrases.
You're spot on, If didn't know Ashley and I saw her downtown I would assume she is a Tswana women.
@@Joe_Ndloziso kumele kuthiweni kuwe ngoba phela awuthintwa wena lesi scabucabu lesi...
Joburg is a very diverse city with a rich culture but as a wine lover I prefer the Western Cape🍷
cape town is more diverse than joburg
Politics and drama aside, YOU ARE GORGEOUS. you are glowing. For real. I stan.❤
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From the videos I see South Africa is a beautiful country.
As a South African, I love the beautiful scenery of Cape Town and the world class restaurants and other cultural places. But I don't care much about the people there. They are cold like the weather 😂... I'm kidding, they are not cold, they are just not as welcoming and as warm like Joburg, Durban, Mpumalanga and other provinces. Plus theres too many Europeans who are still racist and as a Joburger thats a big No, dont wanna end up fighting during a holiday trip.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
You're actually spot on, they are indeed cold over there
@@AshleyinAfrikaShout out from Durban. Have you learned any South African languages? I think it helps block out the negativity from The West since most of us can't understand them anyway. And our TV series are African centred anyway
As a Xhosa from Cape Town, I'm offended!😂😂😂
@@thabo3866Not true! We're very nice! 😂
Hello Ashley and nice comparisons between Johannesburg and Capetown and being l live in coastal city in the USA Capetown will be nice place first time to visit for coastal and nature but l read there is train to take to Johannesburg 😊but the high altitude l must take care like getting rest and drink water like high altitude Denver and Addis Ababa and being an older person is a factor for me. But still sounds like two awesome cities.
Welcome home
You won me when you mentioned “Setwana”
So much beauty. ❤
Thank you
Cool Video....
Thanks!
Cape town is a marvel of a City having the indian Ocean to your left and the Atlantic to your right, also features the most south western point in the continent of Africa, the cape of good hope it's also rich in history and was ranked the 2nd most beautiful city in the world after NYC it was previously No.1
When you’ve settled in South Africa for a minute 2/3 years I’d lovvveee story times on the dating scene. As a foreigner what’s it like dating South African men 😅😂🤣 I’d definitely subscribe for that! Patreon those stories
Welcome to "Jozi" sister best place to be it's addictive❤
Until you experience Dbn you will see a beautiful weather
Lets do Priva Sat eve in Pretoria, Brooklyn. ☺
I really want to visit Durban one day
You should try Pretoria
Ashley, have you had a Kota yet. Did you like it and do you have a favourite spot for eating Kota?
I haven't had a Kota yet...shame.
As real as it gets right here
I literally just heard a South African women say she doesn’t want us (black Americans) moving over there 🤷🏽♂️
Cape town is very beautiful and all,but once a Joburgger always a Joburgger
Oohhhh.. so I see you are in Johannesburg. Yesssss..
As a Capetonian I resonate with you like most people say that cost of living is higher in Cape town than Jo'burg but for me I feel like Jo'burg is more busier though
Hi, Ashley. Don't you do property, rentals and purchases? I have a proper to rent out/ sell. Thank you.
Give us your best Fanakalo :)
Im from Johannesburg but Cape town for me is good for holidays. I went to Cape Town in April for a Holiday, tge weather there is not for me, even Table Mountain is beautiful but at the same time not a fan of having such a big Mountain around me..i prefer a place where the sun can hit the whole city. CAPE TOWN the sun hit the other side of the city then later move to the other side because of the huge table Mountain also the city is slow
Thanks for sharing!
I hate hot weather and sunny days.
Capetown is good to visit staying i don't prefer it,you stay longer you will be bored,but gauteng has a vibe amapiano started here in pretoria
If you bored in Cape Town then you either broke or have zero & I mean zero sense of adventure.
Johannesburg is Afropolitan while Cape Town is considered cosmopolitan because it has a significantly larger white population.. Joburg weather is good. Joburg has where you find more warking class, middle class and wealthy blacks. Cape Town has a lot of gentrification and a big racism after taste. Cape Town is good for travel and getaways because it's so scenic. Cape Town people even move to Joburg because they can't afford to live and work there. I remember being in Franschhoek, black and white South Africans, we were so shocked at the nummber of foreign white tourists hiking up the prices and such.