Sorry, this is slightly off. Very sad when the daughter said that her father wanted her to fight, but she was afraid to - and somehow she still wanted to in order to make her parents proud. The parents mean well but appear to be treating the young boy as a potential future cash cow. Seems naive and shortsighted putting all their faith and energy in to one child (out of four!), hoping he’ll stay free of injuries and becoming professional - making some money once he gets there. It’s a short career IF he makes it. Let’s hope he does. I hope the parents encourage the boy to add a few more strings to his bow, and that they invest just as much time in their other three children.
Totally agree. Where is the support and encouragement for the other 3 kids? It does look like they plan on producing their own income stream on this kid’s back. That is so unfair to all of the kids. Children should not be subjected to head injuries, joint damage, and ignorance without education. Poor kid.
Yea it was rough when the little girl said she'd do it "to show everyone that I'll do anything to make people proud." I think that's less about the sport and more about the tough unemotional culture in general. When your parents weren't brought up to be demonstrative with their affection, but are comfortable showing pride in your fighting, makes sense you're willing to get knocked around to earn that. First time grandpa told any of his kids he loved them was when he got dementia and forgot he didn't do that... they'd definitely have risked broken bones to get more open affection from him.
I felt that, and then I watched it 4 times again. Look at the editing, I mean the girl, the camera angles are different and she may never have said those things in that order.
Ive worked with children in martial arts..Most learn confidence without the aggression,are very athletic ..I feel this great if the child loves it and the club and teacher are responsible..Children less likely to be bullies or be bullied..
I have a 4 year old and one of my goals is getting him into some form of martial arts as soon as possible. I'd love even more for us to do it together 😊 I don't promote violence or want him to be violent of course, I feel like the culture and structure surrounded by different types of martial arts has so many amazing attributes that would be deeply rooted in him for the rest of his life if he started young.. Structure, respect, confidence, full body health, connection to spirit, self-awareness, team cooperation, intention, just so many things - and violence isn't one of them. Of course all these things I can teach him myself as well but it's different in that type of environment and reinforces what I've already been teaching him. I think it's healthy for them. These types of sports though.. I don't think children should ever have to make weight or have a more strong focus on fighting than schooling or have all of their free time spent doing this. And God forbid they suffer from head trauma at that age. I don't know 😕
Yea I trained a martial art where kids ages 12+ were allowed to teach adults if they were high-ranking, and those were the most confident, self-possessed kids you could ever meet. It was great for them.
i agree with what the dad said when he refered to discipline...kyle will be more disciplined down the gym by his trainer and fellow fighter than he could ever get at home, he is also a determined and focused young man and that can only be positive....i am a former british champion cyclist and did what is considered a "safe sport" yet i had a good friend lose his life whilst competing in a race and had another couple of good mates killed while out training that were involved in accidents with cars...good luck with the future kyle and inspire others to take a positive path.
I have concerns with this dad. MMA as a sport for kids is fine, like any other dangerous sport. It speaks volumes toward the end that dad says Kyle would be out smoking or drinking if Kyle didn't do this sport (and right in front of him I might add). I disagree. It's called parenting. The mom mentions Connor McGregor and his millions several times. Seems mom is living in a fantasy world and dad is living vicariously through his son. I had a gifted teenage athlete when she was in high school and it was crushing to watch her walk away from a sport that you spent sooooooo many years, time and money training/traveling for. What we realized though was that the growth as a person she experienced was the true benefit. You do really only see this on the other side. I sincerely wish this family well and pray that Kyle reaches his goals and his family only supports him for him and not their own gain or long ago dreams.
I think it’s a little bit different because Kyle had behavioral issues that prompted them to get him into MMA. I think the father was trying to say that if they hadn’t found an outlet for his anger, he would be self-destructing.
@ As someone who studied psychology, it’s usually around 5 or 6 when anger issues begin to emerge. Children are even encouraged to have a “punching pillow” or an “angry tree” to hit at to let out their aggression and anger. Clearly Kyle needed more than just a pillow or a tree.
There is risk to this. But he is a kid that didn't fit the school system and he can channel his energy into something meaningful. He wold be getting in to trouble but now he is building amazing discipline. I think his parents are doing a great job. They are investing in him and devoted to him.
It is a shame that Kyle's sister stated she would get beat up to show others she will do anything to make them proud. Kyle has a problem with authority like he stated and has no interest in school. He cannot go through life like this. This did not start out as Kyle's dream. He began the fighting at 6. This sport surely would not be a sport I would introduce my 6 yr old to.
I was sad about the little girls statement too but as to if a 6yr old should go to martial arts class and if they can express that as a want they absolutely can. My niece spent 1 month running around the house pretending to be a ninja before I finally got her in a karate class at 4. She was a bit out of control with the temper tantrums and aggression towards us. After a year in karate she was a different child.. for the better
@@lizf1353 See, and I think karate is a perfectly acceptable outlet for a youngster - but this sport crosses the line. I, too, have shared the observation that some kids are just overflowing with undirected energy which can ultimately prove detrimental to their future prospects. It’s up to the parents to place their kids in responsible settings to corral all that childhood exuberance. I’ve watched karate classes - they’re wonderful for building attention and self discipline. They develop self esteem while also enhancing goal-setting skills. I also appreciate how they expect the children to be respectful of accomplished adults. You have to admit, though, that karate does not focus on “beating your opponent” or “winning” - especially at the introductory levels. It’s more about skills and protecting yourself - not causing harm to another kid. And good on you for not falling into gender stereotypes for what activities girls should be limited to. Karate provides valuable life skills that serve both boys and girls.
@@jenniferlynn3537 idk I have seen a lot of success in pulling young at risk kids out of their path of destruction and to a better life at places like boxing gyms that most people would find to be extremely violent. They do expect a level of discipline and respect. They give them a code of morality that was not something they had before (for a variety of reasons not exclusively the parents fault). I work in non-profit and I see that a good deal of kids only respect people they slightly fear once they get to a certain point. That admiration turns to emulation and that is the key we want them to be emulating the right people not the wrong people. So if it's a choice between the local gang bangers or the local boxing gym and fighting with a code of conduct and encouraging them to do SOMETHING positive with their life (even if that path is not traditional higher education or educational tracks) I'm in favor of the gym.... this family seems to be a example of having a lot more opportunities they could have attempted to try and I think that is what is turning a lot of people off. He's probably not a best example of what young people benefit the most from this type of intense interest in the fighting world however. In a perfect world there would not be a necessity for anyone to use violence as any form of outlet or self defense but we all know how imperfect our world is. They certainly could have done a better job showing how it has a positive effect on some kids and the standards and ethnic they advocate for sure.
They're a lovely family. There's sports like rugby that people have no problem with them doing but they're probably more likely to sustain head injuries than the kids who do MMA.
I admire Kyle's self-discipline & determination. Only 14, & been at it since he was 5. Would it be better if he were that self-disciplined & determined to become an engineer or doctor? Sure, but that's not where Kyle's interests lie. He's clearly self-motivated & the one who's driving this train. He's fortunate to have that gym in his community, with an excellent coach & motivated & supportive parents. Otherwise he'd be running the streets like some of the other neighbour kids. It seems obvious the parents believe Kyle could earn his livelihood this way--they're not looking at their child as a cash cow for themselves, but as a talented & driven kid with an unusual chosen career path. They also need to help him wrap his head around a potential Plan B. Rare's the individual who can make a career out of being an athlete. I also wish the family was as supportive of the daughter's ambitions & talents, which might be school-oriented. It's not a successful outcome usually when girls run the streets either.
All I keep hearing the parents say is they support him because he can be rich from this. 30:51 during this conversation what the "father" is saying is, mma will raise my kid. I don't need to do anything as a father but keep him in mma. That's delusional. They are so keen on him being rich and famous that they don't think about all of the rich and famous people who still do drugs and get in trouble with the law. Good parenting is not letting someone or something else raise your kid.
Well, this is Britain - where Nannie’s are a status symbol and sending one’s child away to boarding school at the age of 8 is considered the optimal educational experience. The culture has a different perspective as to what goes into raising children properly - and overall Britain is a less violent society than the U.S. Yet even here in America, we send our babies to day care, our toddlers to Head Start, and our children to school for 7 hours per day. They’re often enrolled in sports and other extra-curriculars - perhaps even attending religious instruction on the weekends. The majority of a child’s waking hours are spent outside of direct parental supervision. So it’s rather disingenuous to think that most parents don’t lean on others for help raising their kids, don’t you think?
clearly the parents wanted him to go this path.The mother said herself that people can become millionaires doing this. Its disgusting child exploitation
He does have skill and passion, and while it's wonderful he has a outlet for that, what happens outside of schedule fighting? Does he still lash out when he, a CHILD, is given direction by authority or doesn't get his way?
I think you are doing the best for your boy channeling his energy. Sure, people will criticize, but I think you know best for your kids. Well done, keep it up!
That kid who punched the other in the face knew what he was doing. I just don’t approve of this. But that’s just my opinion. However the alternative for kids, being in fights out of the ring… I’d probably do the same as they’re doing. I just wouldn’t encourage my child to do this without complete validation of why.
@@zoecrowhurst9177 I specifically talked about the math, not about his other skills. If that's what he's learning (or other kids) at that age, there's something very wrong with the education system. Again, kids usually learn that by the age of 6-7 years old.
I was so ready to be really judgy about this...and then horse back riding was mentioned and I realized I really don't have a leg to stand on. I started riding really young, and while I was lucky to not suffer any big injuries, I knew plenty of kids and adults that did. It's even led people to their deaths, and while I'm not saying kids shouldn't do it, I am saying that I won't sit here and be a massive hypocrite
I have great admiration for this family for not caving into fear, and not teaching their son to be fearful. He wants to be strong, and this will help him in the world. Go, Kyle!
This type o! fighting is so violent and bloody compared to something like Jujitsu. Jujitsu is such a humble Martial Art. They are so respectful of one another, they don’t brag about themselves and I know because my son is in this sport and has been doing this for 6 years. It takes years to earn belts and he doesn’t even tell other family member and asks us not to share with family member when he moves up a belt. He said it’s about discipline, commitment and respect. A white belt who has been working for 2 years he has “mad respect” for when he moves up a belt. Everyone deserves that respect. The goal isn’t to hurt the other opponents, it about winning the competition on technique. He said that Navy Seals and Police Officer’s come in and have a difficult time submitting so it really is learning to humble oneself. Also, when he reached one of his belts, he gave back to the gym by helping to teach the young kids in the gym with classes, this is a way he gives back to the gym in gratitude. He does this voluntarily.
Cheer on violent kids with behavioral problems while they beat each other up. What could go wrong? And then the parents sit right there in front of him and talk about him having no control and will end up in prison and all that.
My boys do karate,and it is great for their confidence,my 15 year old that is like 6 feet can take me down if he wants to... But basing your whole future on making a career out of mma? It's possible,but probably a one in 100000 shot;even with all that dedication. And indeed those are the ones that make good money.
I understand the Mother's love. I don't understand that the Dad would tell his daughter he would be proud of her if she would fight. He should be proud of her for her being his daughter. Stacey has a way that she can ask the questions everyone wants the answers to But not upset the family. I agree with what the dad said about Kyle being in a controlled environment
What a lovely family ❤ so cute I don’t see anything wrong with this, I think it’s a good thing to be passionate about a sport, in any sport there are possible injuries..
Watch any of the cop shows set in places like this and you see the same age group getting drunk, stabbing, glassing and fighting each other and then turning to crime uncontrolled and no discipline this is a 100% better. It lets out aggression that boys have at that age into a controlled disciplined environment. It teaches all the important things in life. Great family and great kids.
I think the parents definitely have an eye on the money he could make in the future. Kyle didn’t get his little fists in boxing glove by accident at the age of two, Dad’s pushed it from the beginning. I also wonder if Kyle would have had so much aggression at school, if he wasn’t taught to fight at such a young age.
You're assuming so much. I was a pain in the butt growing up and MMA kept me from getting so angry. I was absolutely addicted to it. I encourage every parent to put their kids in Jiu-Jitsu as young as possible. Martial Arts teaches discipline, restraint and emotional control. His dad recognized something he was good at and is supporting his passion. Clearly, little man wants the money too, who wouldn't? You can't put your assumptions onto someone you don't know. It's weird. I tell people all the time that boxing saved my life. If he wasn't fighting he may not have ever learned control. So instead of having a goal to be an amazing fighter, he could be in jail instead. Martial Arts isn't about agression, it's about control and extreme focus. If you get in the ring angry, you're going to get your butt beat. The community is also extremely supportive. You end up with an extended family of disciplined martial artists
I can see your perspective. However, they ARE going to school. They’re being home schooled. They were originally in regular school, but it wasn’t working out. Kyle was taken out of traditional schooling due to severe behavioral issues. The fighting appears to be releasing his anger in a way that’s manageable. I’m not totally advocating for this, but I think this situation has been twisted into something that it isn’t.
MMA is tough, but go watch the kids racing Motocross! a much tougher sport and a much more dangerous sport than MMA. plus more of a financial commitment on the family.
so glad these parents are able to let this boy have a different environment to thrive and grow. Perhaps a bit more attention to conversation with the girls about their value could be good just so they don't misinterpret anything which happens with kids. I think this is what is true for the small girl. unfortunately some in the audience didnt think through the nuance of a child's reality when they commented about being sad for the girl.
I grew up doing martial arts. I went 4-5 days a week for many years. The idea that this is somehow more dangerous than many of the other sports out there is honestly silly. I got more injuries playing water polo and swimming in high school than I ever did all 10 years I was in martial arts as a kid. They are learning a sport that can actually translate to real life- self defense. As a 14 year old, 5 days a week of training isn’t weird or too much.
I can see how as parents you'd prefer having your child beating the ish out of a matching opponent in a controlled environment rather than in the streets raging havoc and potentially risking his future tbh
His dad even said he has anger built up inside him, has behavioral issues, is undisciplinable and he thinks having him fight is the only thing that will keep him from ending up in prison. And said all that right in front of him. What could go wrong? 😧
There should be some kind of balance. For me, I’m not very healthy or athletic. I wish my parents were able to get me into some kind of sports as a kid. Maybe I’d be more disciplined and healthy. But I don’t know about these types of things where the kids are almost professionals. Kinda like beauty pageant kids, all the money spent and traveling, it’s like a whole career. A kid’s job should first be finishing school.
Mr. Sumner’s claim that Kyle would be getting into all sorts of trouble if he weren’t pursuing MMA is a convenient justification for the choices these parents have made (i.e. Kyle would theoretically be at greater risk absent his MMA pursuits). It’s an empty excuse meant to make themselves look more caring and less irresponsible - as they presented no evidence that Kyle ever actually did smoke or engage in petty crimes before he got into this “sport.” Their claim that they’re investing in his future - and that he has the potential to become rich with this “career” - are too far-fetched to be credible, and also geared towards defending their parenting. Sadly, these parents ideas as to what their children could achieve are limited by their environment and their own life experience. The Mrs spoke of how hard they work just to maintain their modest lifestyle - yet they have FOUR children to provide for - adding to their burden. The best way to ensure a child succeeds is to ensure they’re well educated - NOT by taking the child out of school and limiting study to 2 hours per day. So their reasoning is quite convoluted. I have no doubt that these parents love their son. Yet it’s obvious that his fighting success is a point of pride for them - as Stacey noted, there’s literally a shrine to Kyle’s achievements in the living room. How must that make his siblings feel? There’s one prodigal son and the rest exist in the shadow of his glory. These parents were themselves raised in neighborhoods where “toughness” was what impressed others - and they’ve carried those values forward. It’s just so sad. One wrong blow to the head and Kyle’s career is done for. One serious injury and he has nothing to fall back upon. The gamble may pay off - but it still doesn’t justify the risks. I’d like to see how this turns out.
I think the woman who said ‘I’m happier now than when I had a boss saying “why weren’t you here at 9 o clock?”’ Etc. I think this is the case for many trad wives - of course there is relief in submitting! The relinquishing of control, and within a controlled and (relatively) comfy environment like your own home with a family that love you (in their own way). But while they might be happieR in this situation, maybe they would be happieST in a society where people had more flexibility and self determination in terms of being both a human with a family and a member of the working world. As a very feminist woman, this situation is my worst nightmare but I can see some of the factors that might have led to it being this way. I would be VERY interested to see how these trad wives feel in 20 years, when maybe the relief has worn off and the inner desire to achieve and be independent and reach your full potential in spheres beyond the home might come back to the forefront of their minds. That said I agree with Stacey that they’re adult women in sound mind and it’s their choice how they live their lives. I do feel for her daughter though - will she have full freedom and the support of her parents to be her true self if it doesn’t align with her parents values? The boys too for that matter!
Odd how Stacey likes this family and how even though people might not like what they're doing, they still do it because it's what's best for their kids. But when it came to the traditional family, the old money family, or the LDS family, they had the exact same attitude about it and she didn't like that. 🤔
People may like or not like what kyle parents are doing but this is what makes champions look at tiger woods, lewis hamilton, steph curry, lomachenko all their parents were strict and tough and helped them train for a long time are these athletes aggressive they are more disciplined, well mannered, humble than any of us All sports are extremely dangerous and may cause serious injury rugby ,football, basketball, baseball, golf, cycling, horse riding, f1 all these sports are as much as dangerous as mma many kids instead of being in gym just get out on street and get involved in things much worse And many are saying they are raising their son to make millions what is wrong with making millions when you come from middle class money is tge biggest motivation to work hard wheter you like it or not And those saying sisters feel neglected how they are being provided with everything it is not like they are just roaming on streets when i was a kid my parents had more attention on my sister which has hearing problems and felt like they didn't love me as now i am old i am mature enough to understand the situation the sisters would also understand the same kyle is also making a sacrifice working hard shouldn't his parents take him to the tournament If you want to live life like how 99.9 percent of us don't live you have to work and sacrifice like how 99.9 percent don't.
If your kid has anger problems then you put them in karate, not MMA! Karate teaches control of your body AND mind. Teaching kids to punch someone is a recipe for disaster. How will he take out his anger when he can no longer box?
It’s very obvious to me that the little sister, and I guess all the other kids, feel that they only get the appropriate attention from their father, if they are fighters like Kyle. And I also get the impression that the father is banking on his son to earn a lot of money one day, when he gets famous. I understand, that his son was difficult and aggressive at a very young age and that they thought they could find an outlet for him. But I think they should have chosen a martial art that teaches discipline and control, without the obvious danger of injury. What about Judo or Karate, for example?
I love how Stacey gets on with this family and has a great bond with them....
They are clearly her type of people and it shows.
Sorry, this is slightly off. Very sad when the daughter said that her father wanted her to fight, but she was afraid to - and somehow she still wanted to in order to make her parents proud. The parents mean well but appear to be treating the young boy as a potential future cash cow.
Seems naive and shortsighted putting all their faith and energy in to one child (out of four!), hoping he’ll stay free of injuries and becoming professional - making some money once he gets there. It’s a short career IF he makes it. Let’s hope he does.
I hope the parents encourage the boy to add a few more strings to his bow, and that they invest just as much time in their other three children.
Totally agree. Where is the support and encouragement for the other 3 kids? It does look like they plan on producing their own income stream on this kid’s back. That is so unfair to all of the kids. Children should not be subjected to head injuries, joint damage, and ignorance without education. Poor kid.
i didn´t get the impresion that the parents were hoping to financially benefit from Kyle at all....don´t know why you drew that conclusion
Yea it was rough when the little girl said she'd do it "to show everyone that I'll do anything to make people proud." I think that's less about the sport and more about the tough unemotional culture in general. When your parents weren't brought up to be demonstrative with their affection, but are comfortable showing pride in your fighting, makes sense you're willing to get knocked around to earn that. First time grandpa told any of his kids he loved them was when he got dementia and forgot he didn't do that... they'd definitely have risked broken bones to get more open affection from him.
I felt that, and then I watched it 4 times again. Look at the editing, I mean the girl, the camera angles are different and she may never have said those things in that order.
Ive worked with children in martial arts..Most learn confidence without the aggression,are very athletic ..I feel this great if the child loves it and the club and teacher are responsible..Children less likely to be bullies or be bullied..
I have a 4 year old and one of my goals is getting him into some form of martial arts as soon as possible. I'd love even more for us to do it together 😊 I don't promote violence or want him to be violent of course, I feel like the culture and structure surrounded by different types of martial arts has so many amazing attributes that would be deeply rooted in him for the rest of his life if he started young.. Structure, respect, confidence, full body health, connection to spirit, self-awareness, team cooperation, intention, just so many things - and violence isn't one of them. Of course all these things I can teach him myself as well but it's different in that type of environment and reinforces what I've already been teaching him. I think it's healthy for them. These types of sports though.. I don't think children should ever have to make weight or have a more strong focus on fighting than schooling or have all of their free time spent doing this. And God forbid they suffer from head trauma at that age. I don't know 😕
Yea I trained a martial art where kids ages 12+ were allowed to teach adults if they were high-ranking, and those were the most confident, self-possessed kids you could ever meet. It was great for them.
It's totally worth the TBI.
i agree with what the dad said when he refered to discipline...kyle will be more disciplined down the gym by his trainer and fellow fighter than he could ever get at home, he is also a determined and focused young man and that can only be positive....i am a former british champion cyclist and did what is considered a "safe sport" yet i had a good friend lose his life whilst competing in a race and had another couple of good mates killed while out training that were involved in accidents with cars...good luck with the future kyle and inspire others to take a positive path.
Yea I had two friends killed in accidents on study abroad or volunteer trips and two skateboarding. LIfe's dangerous.
I love how supportive the family is.
I have concerns with this dad. MMA as a sport for kids is fine, like any other dangerous sport. It speaks volumes toward the end that dad says Kyle would be out smoking or drinking if Kyle didn't do this sport (and right in front of him I might add). I disagree. It's called parenting. The mom mentions Connor McGregor and his millions several times. Seems mom is living in a fantasy world and dad is living vicariously through his son. I had a gifted teenage athlete when she was in high school and it was crushing to watch her walk away from a sport that you spent sooooooo many years, time and money training/traveling for. What we realized though was that the growth as a person she experienced was the true benefit. You do really only see this on the other side. I sincerely wish this family well and pray that Kyle reaches his goals and his family only supports him for him and not their own gain or long ago dreams.
I think it’s a little bit different because Kyle had behavioral issues that prompted them to get him into MMA.
I think the father was trying to say that if they hadn’t found an outlet for his anger, he would be self-destructing.
@@emilydoe4139some what true. But he got in at 5 years old. That a bit early to get in to a sport because of anger or other issuse
@ As someone who studied psychology, it’s usually around 5 or 6 when anger issues begin to emerge. Children are even encouraged to have a “punching pillow” or an “angry tree” to hit at to let out their aggression and anger.
Clearly Kyle needed more than just a pillow or a tree.
There is risk to this. But he is a kid that didn't fit the school system and he can channel his energy into something meaningful. He wold be getting in to trouble but now he is building amazing discipline. I think his parents are doing a great job. They are investing in him and devoted to him.
Why couldn’t the son be “building amazing discipline” though karate class - where the goal isn’t to disable your opponent and the kids are safer?
@@jenniferlynn3537Karate class still requires a lot of discipline and doing what the teacher tells you to do - which is something Kyle struggles with.
Wow what an inspiring documentry 😊
It is a shame that Kyle's sister stated she would get beat up to show others she will do anything to make them proud. Kyle has a problem with authority like he stated and has no interest in school. He cannot go through life like this. This did not start out as Kyle's dream. He began the fighting at 6. This sport surely would not be a sport I would introduce my 6 yr old to.
I was so saddened by the sister's comments too, very much so 😢
I was sad about the little girls statement too but as to if a 6yr old should go to martial arts class and if they can express that as a want they absolutely can. My niece spent 1 month running around the house pretending to be a ninja before I finally got her in a karate class at 4. She was a bit out of control with the temper tantrums and aggression towards us. After a year in karate she was a different child.. for the better
@@lizf1353 See, and I think karate is a perfectly acceptable outlet for a youngster - but this sport crosses the line.
I, too, have shared the observation that some kids are just overflowing with undirected energy which can ultimately prove detrimental to their future prospects. It’s up to the parents to place their kids in responsible settings to corral all that childhood exuberance.
I’ve watched karate classes - they’re wonderful for building attention and self discipline. They develop self esteem while also enhancing goal-setting skills. I also appreciate how they expect the children to be respectful of accomplished adults.
You have to admit, though, that karate does not focus on “beating your opponent” or “winning” - especially at the introductory levels. It’s more about skills and protecting yourself - not causing harm to another kid.
And good on you for not falling into gender stereotypes for what activities girls should be limited to. Karate provides valuable life skills that serve both boys and girls.
@@jenniferlynn3537 idk I have seen a lot of success in pulling young at risk kids out of their path of destruction and to a better life at places like boxing gyms that most people would find to be extremely violent. They do expect a level of discipline and respect. They give them a code of morality that was not something they had before (for a variety of reasons not exclusively the parents fault). I work in non-profit and I see that a good deal of kids only respect people they slightly fear once they get to a certain point. That admiration turns to emulation and that is the key we want them to be emulating the right people not the wrong people. So if it's a choice between the local gang bangers or the local boxing gym and fighting with a code of conduct and encouraging them to do SOMETHING positive with their life (even if that path is not traditional higher education or educational tracks) I'm in favor of the gym.... this family seems to be a example of having a lot more opportunities they could have attempted to try and I think that is what is turning a lot of people off. He's probably not a best example of what young people benefit the most from this type of intense interest in the fighting world however. In a perfect world there would not be a necessity for anyone to use violence as any form of outlet or self defense but we all know how imperfect our world is. They certainly could have done a better job showing how it has a positive effect on some kids and the standards and ethnic they advocate for sure.
They're a lovely family. There's sports like rugby that people have no problem with them doing but they're probably more likely to sustain head injuries than the kids who do MMA.
I admire Kyle's self-discipline & determination. Only 14, & been at it since he was 5. Would it be better if he were that self-disciplined & determined to become an engineer or doctor? Sure, but that's not where Kyle's interests lie. He's clearly self-motivated & the one who's driving this train.
He's fortunate to have that gym in his community, with an excellent coach & motivated & supportive parents. Otherwise he'd be running the streets like some of the other neighbour kids. It seems obvious the parents believe Kyle could earn his livelihood this way--they're not looking at their child as a cash cow for themselves, but as a talented & driven kid with an unusual chosen career path.
They also need to help him wrap his head around a potential Plan B. Rare's the individual who can make a career out of being an athlete.
I also wish the family was as supportive of the daughter's ambitions & talents, which might be school-oriented. It's not a successful outcome usually when girls run the streets either.
All I keep hearing the parents say is they support him because he can be rich from this. 30:51 during this conversation what the "father" is saying is, mma will raise my kid. I don't need to do anything as a father but keep him in mma. That's delusional. They are so keen on him being rich and famous that they don't think about all of the rich and famous people who still do drugs and get in trouble with the law. Good parenting is not letting someone or something else raise your kid.
Well, this is Britain - where Nannie’s are a status symbol and sending one’s child away to boarding school at the age of 8 is considered the optimal educational experience. The culture has a different perspective as to what goes into raising children properly - and overall Britain is a less violent society than the U.S.
Yet even here in America, we send our babies to day care, our toddlers to Head Start, and our children to school for 7 hours per day. They’re often enrolled in sports and other extra-curriculars - perhaps even attending religious instruction on the weekends. The majority of a child’s waking hours are spent outside of direct parental supervision. So it’s rather disingenuous to think that most parents don’t lean on others for help raising their kids, don’t you think?
I truly hope that Kyle makes his dreams come true for himself. It would be great to see him as a champion fighter
love.authenticity. great content!
Poor little girl. Shows how misguided children are these days. These parents need to love ALL their children and not be conditional upon achievements.
clearly the parents wanted him to go this path.The mother said herself that people can become millionaires doing this. Its disgusting child exploitation
Why don't they wear protective headgear?
I'm pretty sure that punch to the face was not an accident. ( In the fights before Kyle's. )
He does have skill and passion, and while it's wonderful he has a outlet for that, what happens outside of schedule fighting? Does he still lash out when he, a CHILD, is given direction by authority or doesn't get his way?
I think you are doing the best for your boy channeling his energy. Sure, people will criticize, but I think you know best for your kids. Well done, keep it up!
That kid who punched the other in the face knew what he was doing. I just don’t approve of this. But that’s just my opinion. However the alternative for kids, being in fights out of the ring… I’d probably do the same as they’re doing. I just wouldn’t encourage my child to do this without complete validation of why.
I don't think there's anything sad about what the daughter said. She's a young kid, very brave and honest. You go girl!
11:29, wow! we learned that sort of math when we're seven years old in my country.
You're talking about a child. Unesasary comment. Bet you couldn't do what he's doing! But yeah theres a gold star🌟
@@zoecrowhurst9177 I specifically talked about the math, not about his other skills. If that's what he's learning (or other kids) at that age, there's something very wrong with the education system. Again, kids usually learn that by the age of 6-7 years old.
Its absolutely madness it should be in the law that they need helmets to protect their brain
head strikes are banned, did you watch it with the sound off or what?
If the lads got a passion...let him at it. Atleast it keeps em' on a straight path and off the streets. Good family. Hope the boys dreams come true
I was so ready to be really judgy about this...and then horse back riding was mentioned and I realized I really don't have a leg to stand on. I started riding really young, and while I was lucky to not suffer any big injuries, I knew plenty of kids and adults that did. It's even led people to their deaths, and while I'm not saying kids shouldn't do it, I am saying that I won't sit here and be a massive hypocrite
They did a really good job of putting things in perspective.
I have great admiration for this family for not caving into fear, and not teaching their son to be fearful. He wants to be strong, and this will help him in the world. Go, Kyle!
lovely family - salt of the earth, good luck to Kyle - he has a discipline & purpose he will do well.
Exceptional oitstanding job those parents are doing...love this SHOW ❤
This type o! fighting is so violent and bloody compared to something like Jujitsu. Jujitsu is such a humble Martial Art. They are so respectful of one another, they don’t brag about themselves and I know because my son is in this sport and has been doing this for 6 years. It takes years to earn belts and he doesn’t even tell other family member and asks us not to share with family member when he moves up a belt. He said it’s about discipline, commitment and respect. A white belt who has been working for 2 years he has “mad respect” for when he moves up a belt. Everyone deserves that respect. The goal isn’t to hurt the other opponents, it about winning the competition on technique. He said that Navy Seals and Police Officer’s come in and have a difficult time submitting so it really is learning to humble oneself. Also, when he reached one of his belts, he gave back to the gym by helping to teach the young kids in the gym with classes, this is a way he gives back to the gym in gratitude. He does this voluntarily.
Cheer on violent kids with behavioral problems while they beat each other up. What could go wrong? And then the parents sit right there in front of him and talk about him having no control and will end up in prison and all that.
What a wonderful family. I agree with Staceys opinions.
My boys do karate,and it is great for their confidence,my 15 year old that is like 6 feet can take me down if he wants to...
But basing your whole future on making a career out of mma?
It's possible,but probably a one in 100000 shot;even with all that dedication.
And indeed those are the ones that make good money.
Stacey is so adorable. Good video!
Lovely family ❤
I understand the Mother's love. I don't understand that the Dad would tell his daughter he would be proud of her if she would fight. He should be proud of her for her being his daughter. Stacey has a way that she can ask the questions everyone wants the answers to But not upset the family. I agree with what the dad said about Kyle being in a controlled environment
What a lovely family ❤ so cute
I don’t see anything wrong with this, I think it’s a good thing to be passionate about a sport, in any sport there are possible injuries..
Watch any of the cop shows set in places like this and you see the same age group getting drunk, stabbing, glassing and fighting each other and then turning to crime uncontrolled and no discipline this is a 100% better. It lets out aggression that boys have at that age into a controlled disciplined environment. It teaches all the important things in life. Great family and great kids.
I think the parents definitely have an eye on the money he could make in the future.
Kyle didn’t get his little fists in boxing glove by accident at the age of two,
Dad’s pushed it from the beginning.
I also wonder if Kyle would have had so much aggression at school, if he wasn’t taught to fight at such a young age.
You're assuming so much. I was a pain in the butt growing up and MMA kept me from getting so angry. I was absolutely addicted to it. I encourage every parent to put their kids in Jiu-Jitsu as young as possible. Martial Arts teaches discipline, restraint and emotional control. His dad recognized something he was good at and is supporting his passion. Clearly, little man wants the money too, who wouldn't? You can't put your assumptions onto someone you don't know. It's weird. I tell people all the time that boxing saved my life. If he wasn't fighting he may not have ever learned control. So instead of having a goal to be an amazing fighter, he could be in jail instead. Martial Arts isn't about agression, it's about control and extreme focus. If you get in the ring angry, you're going to get your butt beat. The community is also extremely supportive. You end up with an extended family of disciplined martial artists
I had to stop watching this episode. Kids in a cage fighting, not going to school and being socialized properly? It hurt my heart.
I can see your perspective. However, they ARE going to school. They’re being home schooled.
They were originally in regular school, but it wasn’t working out. Kyle was taken out of traditional schooling due to severe behavioral issues.
The fighting appears to be releasing his anger in a way that’s manageable.
I’m not totally advocating for this, but I think this situation has been twisted into something that it isn’t.
A few of my kids have friends who are venturing into the MMA fighting world 😮
Don't believe in hunting for food. But believe in watching people beat the crap out of one another.
MMA is tough, but go watch the kids racing Motocross! a much tougher sport and a much more dangerous sport than MMA. plus more of a financial commitment on the family.
I don't understand a word his dad speaking🙁
so glad these parents are able to let this boy have a different environment to thrive and grow. Perhaps a bit more attention to conversation with the girls about their value could be good just so they don't misinterpret anything which happens with kids. I think this is what is true for the small girl. unfortunately some in the audience didnt think through the nuance of a child's reality when they commented about being sad for the girl.
I grew up doing martial arts. I went 4-5 days a week for many years. The idea that this is somehow more dangerous than many of the other sports out there is honestly silly. I got more injuries playing water polo and swimming in high school than I ever did all 10 years I was in martial arts as a kid. They are learning a sport that can actually translate to real life- self defense. As a 14 year old, 5 days a week of training isn’t weird or too much.
I feel sorry for the other three kids😢
I would not chose this for my kids
Let's pick an activity that develops all the worst impulses in the kid. As long as it will bring us "millions"
mma fighters rarely make millions, mcgregor is basically a unicorn. he made it because of his ability to promote fights
I feel like this is a good skill to have no matter your age or if you’re a boy or girl.
I hope he makes it to UFC!!!
Both my kids are fighters ..been on the mats since they were born
I can see how as parents you'd prefer having your child beating the ish out of a matching opponent in a controlled environment rather than in the streets raging havoc and potentially risking his future tbh
I think that kid has an anger issue
I think you have no idea
His dad even said he has anger built up inside him, has behavioral issues, is undisciplinable and he thinks having him fight is the only thing that will keep him from ending up in prison. And said all that right in front of him.
What could go wrong? 😧
I wish Stacey lived here in the United states
There should be some kind of balance. For me, I’m not very healthy or athletic. I wish my parents were able to get me into some kind of sports as a kid. Maybe I’d be more disciplined and healthy. But I don’t know about these types of things where the kids are almost professionals. Kinda like beauty pageant kids, all the money spent and traveling, it’s like a whole career. A kid’s job should first be finishing school.
Mr. Sumner’s claim that Kyle would be getting into all sorts of trouble if he weren’t pursuing MMA is a convenient justification for the choices these parents have made (i.e. Kyle would theoretically be at greater risk absent his MMA pursuits). It’s an empty excuse meant to make themselves look more caring and less irresponsible - as they presented no evidence that Kyle ever actually did smoke or engage in petty crimes before he got into this “sport.”
Their claim that they’re investing in his future - and that he has the potential to become rich with this “career” - are too far-fetched to be credible, and also geared towards defending their parenting.
Sadly, these parents ideas as to what their children could achieve are limited by their environment and their own life experience. The Mrs spoke of how hard they work just to maintain their modest lifestyle - yet they have FOUR children to provide for - adding to their burden. The best way to ensure a child succeeds is to ensure they’re well educated - NOT by taking the child out of school and limiting study to 2 hours per day. So their reasoning is quite convoluted.
I have no doubt that these parents love their son. Yet it’s obvious that his fighting success is a point of pride for them - as Stacey noted, there’s literally a shrine to Kyle’s achievements in the living room. How must that make his siblings feel? There’s one prodigal son and the rest exist in the shadow of his glory.
These parents were themselves raised in neighborhoods where “toughness” was what impressed others - and they’ve carried those values forward. It’s just so sad. One wrong blow to the head and Kyle’s career is done for. One serious injury and he has nothing to fall back upon.
The gamble may pay off - but it still doesn’t justify the risks. I’d like to see how this turns out.
I think the woman who said ‘I’m happier now than when I had a boss saying “why weren’t you here at 9 o clock?”’ Etc. I think this is the case for many trad wives - of course there is relief in submitting! The relinquishing of control, and within a controlled and (relatively) comfy environment like your own home with a family that love you (in their own way). But while they might be happieR in this situation, maybe they would be happieST in a society where people had more flexibility and self determination in terms of being both a human with a family and a member of the working world. As a very feminist woman, this situation is my worst nightmare but I can see some of the factors that might have led to it being this way. I would be VERY interested to see how these trad wives feel in 20 years, when maybe the relief has worn off and the inner desire to achieve and be independent and reach your full potential in spheres beyond the home might come back to the forefront of their minds. That said I agree with Stacey that they’re adult women in sound mind and it’s their choice how they live their lives. I do feel for her daughter though - will she have full freedom and the support of her parents to be her true self if it doesn’t align with her parents values? The boys too for that matter!
Odd how Stacey likes this family and how even though people might not like what they're doing, they still do it because it's what's best for their kids. But when it came to the traditional family, the old money family, or the LDS family, they had the exact same attitude about it and she didn't like that. 🤔
People may like or not like what kyle parents are doing but this is what makes champions look at tiger woods, lewis hamilton, steph curry, lomachenko all their parents were strict and tough and helped them train for a long time are these athletes aggressive they are more disciplined, well mannered, humble than any of us
All sports are extremely dangerous and may cause serious injury rugby ,football, basketball, baseball, golf, cycling, horse riding, f1 all these sports are as much as dangerous as mma many kids instead of being in gym just get out on street and get involved in things much worse
And many are saying they are raising their son to make millions what is wrong with making millions when you come from middle class money is tge biggest motivation to work hard wheter you like it or not
And those saying sisters feel neglected how they are being provided with everything it is not like they are just roaming on streets when i was a kid my parents had more attention on my sister which has hearing problems and felt like they didn't love me as now i am old i am mature enough to understand the situation the sisters would also understand the same kyle is also making a sacrifice working hard shouldn't his parents take him to the tournament
If you want to live life like how 99.9 percent of us don't live you have to work and sacrifice like how 99.9 percent don't.
This is barbaric, for me. I will not judge for others.
Wow... messed up their little girl by focusing on his fighting. That's terrible.
If your kid has anger problems then you put them in karate, not MMA! Karate teaches control of your body AND mind. Teaching kids to punch someone is a recipe for disaster. How will he take out his anger when he can no longer box?
Connor mentioned what about my mannnnnn paddy the baddy!
It’s very obvious to me that the little sister, and I guess all the other kids, feel that they only get the appropriate attention from their father, if they are fighters like Kyle. And I also get the impression that the father is banking on his son to earn a lot of money one day, when he gets famous. I understand, that his son was difficult and aggressive at a very young age and that they thought they could find an outlet for him. But I think they should have chosen a martial art that teaches discipline and control, without the obvious danger of injury. What about Judo or Karate, for example?
My god...that redhead is a wonder!😍😂
Go for it Kyle !
Does anyone know how to eat a piece of chicken?
their poor daughter.
The boys should have helmets on.. that's terrible. The parents let them fight without safety gear on.
Obviously particularly dreams dad!
Sounds like it’s all about Money 💰