Well the mirror supposedly makes wishes come true so would there be any problems in the mirror world? In Kirby and the amazing mirror it is stated that dark minds causes the corruption there so after its defeat what problems would there be
@@oodogla Dark mind is possibly the mirror worlds version of 0, who existed in the not-mirror world, so I would guess that there might be mirror world versions of other members of dark-matter, or even just mirror world versions of other kirby characters that we haven't seen
Now that Void was said to exist in every dimensions, I'm pretty sure Dark Mind is supposed to be Void's incarnation in the Mirror World, which would explain his Dark Matter-like appearance and the reason why Void knows Dark Mind's attacks.
You aren't wrong, however, Dark Matter/Zero is Void with negative energy, so Dark Mind would likewise be Void of the Mirror World corrupted as well, bringing it in line with Dark Matter/Zero
Is the dimensional mirror made by the ancients, as it seems that every boss in Kirby that has a soul form has some link to an artefact from the ancients, e.g Marx with the clockwork stars and magalor with the crown, this would explain sectonias soul form if the mirror is from the ancients
I would make a lot of sense if the Amazing Mirror was made by the Ancients since it bears a striking resemblance to the Master Crown. Although any connection between these has not yet been stated. It's pretty likely in my opinion though.
I know I am one year late, but I do not think this would work. All soulforms are connected to the powers of artifacts and the closest relation soul of sectonia has to that theme is fusing with a magical plant. The mirror caused her to develop mental illness, not superpowers.
I think and hope so. The amazing mirror, Nova, and the master crown are all very similar. All of them have a gold hue to them, grant wishes, have something to do with dark matter, and they all were made by the ancients(Except the amazing mirror but we don't know that yet) Marx and Magolor wished for the power to rule over popstar and maybe Sectonia wished for beauty. Most of Queen Sectionia's pause screen lore talked about beauty and It did say that Sectonia looked into the mirror a lot so maybe she was self conscious about how she looked. This also ties into my other theory which is that the ancients have something to do with dark matter. The amazing mirror, the master crown, and Nova all did pretty much the same thing. They took the darkness inside of the people who used them and added dark matter to it. and by darkness i mean negative emotions. Marx and Magolor's Evilness and Sectonia's sadness/self doubt.
One thing that always confuses me about the Mirror World is it's location. Like I'm pretty sure it doesn't just float above dream land like Floralia, so I assume the Dimensional Mirror is a gateway to it, but the Dimensional Mirror also leads to the arena where you fight Dark Meta-Knight and I assume that area is just another location in the Mirror World, so how does the Dimensional Mirror work, is it a gateway to the Mirror World or is it a gateway to various areas of the mirror world or is it both? Idk maybe this is incredibly obvious but I just can't seem to wrap my head around it.
DMK's arena looks like a ruined and dark version of the Central Circle, and the ground is a repallete of one of the grounds from Radish Ruins' rooms (also an area with ??? as its boss) as instead of puffy cloudy platforms (as if everything of the Central Circle transformed into dark version of it). As it stands, the mirror is an one-way on as it doesn't send you right before it. Whereas two-way ones send you between two of the kind in different rooms, it's unclear if they're the same door or two individual ones linked to lead between each other. Dimension Mirror doesn't seem to be attached to the pillars in scenes of Kirbys going from or to Dream Land's location (lying high in the skies of Dream Land that is). Is it really one of a kind if it appears in both dimensions? Perhaps "yes" could sneak up as an answer if it was a two-way door to some extent. As it stands due their core features, perhaps one mirror can exist in both dimensions and be one of a kind. Dimension Mirror can also float, therefore it could appear the one that was attached to the pillars in the Central Circle appeared to have floaten off the same location in its dark reflection of the normal Central Circle room and that's how it appears to can appear in Mirror Wolrd's purple-colored skies in the ending scene (as well as float high above Dream Land). Can only reflect bad things? Perhaps Kirby needed a location and the only location it could reflect is its own (therefore wishing the bad CC because it reflects only wishes for bad things). DMK ended up waiting Kirby right away in the dark CC reflection room? Perhaps he could sneak in as it got repaired but Kirby was busy dancing having collected the last shard, that's like 15 seconds for the "???" who is aware Kirby's coming after Dimension Mirror because he fought him for one shard. Why did regular MK enter the same dark reflection of CC room after being beaten by DMK in the intro cutscene? Perhaps nowhere because the Dimension Mirror was just broken and he appeared whereever the next wish led to. But that'd mean DMK'd have to wish the same as Kirby mere seconds before, to appear in the bad reflection of the same room they're coming from. But how exactly one's wish gets granted? Passing through one wished in front of? Can you pass through one without wishing anything and where would that lead? Thanks for coming to my wasTEDtimeshittalk.
Hot & Edgy take: The Dimensional Mirror leads to the Mirror World, and The Dimensional Mirror inside it is really the same one, leading BACK to the Non-Mirror World, which shows up as dark, because Kirby's World is secretly the REAL Dark Mirror World, but Dark Mind corrupted their mind to think the Dark World was really good the whole time!
Headcanon: it floats in dreamland's atmosphere, you can also see Shadow Kirby going down thru the clouds to take a peek at the Jambastion in Star Allies
So basically, the events of Triple Deluxe (which non-canonically also led to Taranza's actions in TKCD) happened because Shadow Kirby goofed up and let Dark Meta Knight corrupt the Dimension Mirror again? Also, good thing Extra Modes aren't canon, otherwise Dedede would still be trapped in the Mirror World after breaking the Dimension Mirror in Dededetour.
Man, I wish there was some way for HAL to make extra modes canon, even if it would go back on that one statement. The soul bosses, Galacta Knight's fights, the deepest depths of the lore. All non-canon (with the likely exception of Heroes in Another Dimension)
If they did that, they would have to give explanations for the inconsistencies in almost every extra mode: things like Dedede getting back from the Mirror World, Pop Star still being mechanized with the Access Ark after Meta Knight is freed from the mind control, the Parallel bosses replacing their regular counterparts in the Mages' Guest Star. It would only create more confusion, which we already have enough of at the moment.
I know, I said some way, there's a very slim chance something like that could happen. I just wish it could. But it's gone way too far for that. Not only all of that, but also the explanations of how most of the EX, DX, and 2.0 bosses exist (Magolor EX, Sectonia DX, Haltmann 2.0, etc) KRtDL's entire EX mode, and possibly every Guest Star Route. There's so much stuff that they can't explain, it starts to make sense why they made all that non-canon. But I still wish it was anyway.
@@bluekirby_64 I have my own explanations for those things. Notice the screen fades to white when Dedede destroys the mirror. I think this means he was teleported back to Popstar, due to him not belonging in the mirror dimension. He was sent there for universal balance. Popstar was also never mechanized in meta knightmare returns. Why does it look like that then? I think a part of Star Dream barely survived the explosion. And since Haltmann was dead, it tried to find a new admin. It did so by loading up backup data of the mechanization to lure in a strong individual. Meta Knight investigates, and cue the events of the mode. I also think it would be strange for some extra modes to be canon, like heroes in another dimension, but not the others. It feels off, and a bit like lazy story telling.
My thoughts on Kirby Clash series, I believe that the series is a play, showing the history of dreamland itself. Deluxe doesn’t have much as super does so I’ll use it as my base. In SKC and KCDX, it starts off with a peaceful creature usually coexisting with the citizens of the dream kingdom going berserk and attacking the people. Hearing this, team Kirby (who I believe is the aeon hero and the four heroes of yore when they were young) comes to town and defeats the beast. Afterwards, they start hearing rumors about a sorcerer being the one responsible for the chaos and chase after his trail defeating other rouge beasts in their way. Once catching up to them, they battle and emerge victorious, but realize the sorcerer was still out there scheming and soon they follow in hot pursuit. They find him in the decisive battle area and find him summoning an ominous figure: Dark Mind right before his prime believing he will put an end to everything at his command, but gets launched away to the dreamscape. After “ending” Dark Mind, peace returns to the kingdom for a while and team Kirby gets a long deserved break, but word recently spreads that monsters are going berserk again and they spring into action to find the source, but not without finding a familiar foe. Dark Mind returns, fueled with vengeance and tries to take down the team once more but inevitably fails and becomes imprisoned in the mirror world. After the skirmish, they find the sorcerer once more summoning what appears to be a round spherical object: Void Termina (why I believe this is the case is galacta’s extreme power comes from said void and I don’t see anyone being able to dodge the crap which is Void’s attack patterns) Team Kirby does battle with the sorcerer and emerge victorious, however it’s too late. Void was successfully summoned and ready to wreak havoc on the world. However the heroes managed to win and with their newly found power, sealed Void and the dark heart away.
Now that you bring the subject up, I wonder what shadow dedede and dark meta knight were before dark mind struck. Was shadow dedede generous and loyal to his subjects? Did dark meta knight always fight dirty to get the upper hand? Not that these questions matter but it’s interesting to think about.
So, to counter dark matter you need love. But what about Dark Mind? Well I'm guessing it's through using good memories. I think the difference between dark mind and dark matter is that matter controls hosts like puppets while mind literally changes the host's intentions and thoughts. So if you bring back one's good memories, they will remember who they once were such that they can avoid evil thoughts and have good intentions again. Edit: Man, this would make for an awesome Kirby game, don't you think? 2020 Edit: Beating Dark Matter with love now feels too cheesy and old now. I hope HAL is gonna stop using Dark Matter as a main Villain in the next game. We already have 4 games with it. Dark Mind would be much more interesting. Not only do you simply get rid of Dark Mind itself, but you also have to deal with the Long-lasting effects of it. Corrupted thoughts, memories removed and altered to turn someone truly evil. So imagine, what if Godlike beings like Galacta Knight or even Kirby got corrupted by Dark Mind? Will Kirby be able to restore their former Glory even after beating Dark Mind? I hope HAL has a story like this in mind.
@@alisajohns8949 Same, man. I'd love another Kirby game that goes more into the lore surrounding the mirror world and also improves upon Amazing Mirror's nonlinear, metroidvania-esque gameplay.
Well in hindsight, considering how this game turned turn out with TRG’s playthrough, DMK’s plan of Kirby splitting might as well have been a solid one after all.
My theory is that the dimensional mirror characters are made from anger dark meta knight is evil because he has anger same as shadow dedede but Kirby isn’t evil at all just like you said Kirby has courage but shadow kirby has none probably because he thinks he’s not strong enough,so when meta knight was beaten by dark meta knight in amazing mirror that meant meta knight had more anger then happiness but dedede was able to beat shadow dedede because he had more good in him.
Awesome! I've been waiting for coverage on the mirror world and Team Kirby Clash Deluxe. It may be free to play, but Kind D-Mind is still one of the coolest concepts for a villain (with one of the best battle themes) in a Kirby game. Can't wait for the video about Another Dimension!
My interpretation is that Dark Mind is not a reflection of Dark Matter or Nightmare. While Dark Matter and Dark Mind probably have a common origin, Void Termina (maybe Nightmare too) I don’t think Dark Mind is a counterpart to Dark Matter. I prefer to think of it as a separate entity. The thing with King D Mind being brought into existence by Taranzas evil mind sounds somewhat similar to the description of Void Soul taking different forms depending on whether positive or negative energy is gathered. So that’s likely how Dark Mind as well as many other Kirby villains came into existence
>when you make a counterpart to a boss with a name obviously derived from it and later everyone believes it is a counterpart of everything but that boss
Maybe Dark Meta Knight would’ve done a better job fooling Kirby and the Player if his health bar had Meta Knight written above it instead of ???. By the time Amazing Mirror came out, I’m sure everyone who was familiar with the series knew who Meta Knight was. It’s kinda obvious that something’s up when they don’t put Meta Knight’s name there despite the fact that we all knew him.
I think that Dark Meta Knight might have had a change of heart in Star Allies, I mean if a pure went into the mirror world and into him he might have shown a new side and was willing to help Kirby afterwards when summoned.
Im wondering if the mirror is another artifact build by the anchients? I mean it checks alot of boxes. 1: Its a golden magical mirror with the power to grand wishes and it created a mirrored version of dreamland. Most artifacts if not all of them have magical abilities like granding wishes and making dreams reality. 2. Alot of anchient artifacts are somehow sentient. The mirror is no exception. In triple deluxe in dededetour the mirror just magicaly appears and sends out shadow dedede and dark meta knight. And when dark meta knight is defeated the mirror comes back and sucks him in the mirror. It seems that its doing that on its own. 3. And the last one where did the mirror come from? Someone had to make it.. its a golden magical mirror. The star rod is also in dreamland and that is made by the anchients
Dark Mind might not be a Mirror Zero at all. The Mirror World was said to reflect wishes BEFORE Dark Mind showed up. Conclusion: Dark Mind is NOT an inhabitant of the Mirror Dimension, but an invader. So, that begs the question, where did Dark Mind come from?
I've always wondered where it was said that the Dimension Mirror reflected wishes. Would you mind telling me where? And yeah I felt like it was kind of implied that Dark Mind was an invader in the opening cutscene
This is making me think of what Shadow Kirby would be like if he appeared in a future game as something more than a cameo. Maybe they could add to his character a bit.
If Dark Mind is the Mirror World’s Zero so wouldn’t death just be an inconvenience to him like Zero? He would eventually regenerate and return like Zero. Also here’s a thought, what if Dark Mind was Nightmare’s reflection possessed by Zero’s reflection so it could have the power to not just take bodies but minds too? Nightmare could enter dreams after all. Dark Mind is neither Dark Matter or the Nightmare terrorizing your Mind, he is both, he is Dark Mind.
So basically Dark meta knight ruined the lives of many mirror people which remind you, NEVER GOT FIXED. Then he corrupts the soul of sectonia and makes taranza get crippling depression. THEN he becomes a “friend” to get the jamba hearts which corrupt even more... From what I can see, dark meta knight is a horrible successor to dark mind, as you can see with what he dose and his motives. I think he is the next Kirby villian and won’t be redeemed.....oh yeah and he hurt our favorite spider boi....he is gonna die by my own hands for that
Kirby is True Heroic. Shadow Kirby is True Neutral. Meta Knight is Heroic Neutral. Dark Meta Knight is True Evil. King Dedede is Chaotic Good. Shadow Dedede is True Chaotic. D-Mind is Chaotic Evil. Bandana Dee is Neutral Good. So then Shadow Bandana Dee would be...?
I believe Sectonia wished upon the Dimensional Miror to become more beautiful, as its purpose was to grant wishes. However, things only went downhill... For everyone.
Pretty much yes, unless said theory was debunked, it which case it states the new one instead. That being said, I'm making all of these as well to lead up to other videos, to create the perfect KCU (Kirby Canon Universe =P) the video on Another Dimension will probably be the last one until another Kirby game is released
I get this is 2 years old but might aswell add my 2 cents on that ending part Like how the dark matters are made up of the negative (or positive) energies of the universe and such, dark mind may also be a parallel to that but as in the mind So a dark mind can be created by negative thoughts instead of energy This fits with the whole zero and dark mind being paraellels to eachother
@Meteorz what Dark Meta's idea was spliting kirby into 4 equalling powerful? He believed the clones would fight kirby and overwhelm him. But he failed to know how Kirby is pure of heart.
I sure hope we get game focusing on the mirror world reflecting bad thing, and that kirby needs something similar to the friend hearts to purify the mind of those who were mentaly corrupted.
This also ties into my theory on how the amazing mirror, Nova, and the master crown are all related. All of them have a gold hue to them, grant wishes, have something to do with dark matter, and they all were made by the ancients(Except the amazing mirror but we don't know that yet) Marx and Magolor wished for the power to rule over popstar and maybe Sectonia wished for beauty.Most of Queen Sectionia's pause screen lore talked about beauty and It did say that Sectonia looked into the mirror a lot so maybe she was self conscious about how she looked. This also ties into my other theory which is that the ancients have something to do with dark matter. The amazing mirror, the master crown, and Nova all did pretty much the same thing. They took the darkness inside of the people who used them and added dark matter to it. and by darkness i mean negative emotions. Marx and Magolor's Evilness and Sectonia's sadness/self doubt. Also I like the fact the shadow Kirby is all Kirby's bad qualities. His mischievous side, his lazy side, and him not having courage. I think that's such good character design.
I really don't understand that Dark Mind being the Mirror World's Dark Matter was ever up for debate. Do people just not see the "Mind over matter" pun?
i could see that tbh - if sectonia's wish was to be more beautiful, one rooted in such self-loathing could have warped itself into what she's become by the time of triple deluxe
And There Dark Meta Knight in Star Ailles Um the Only Reason Why stuff and Playable Dark Meta Knight Odd Well For Many Thing However What Be A Dark Glacata Knight Be Like?
I don't know about sectonia and the mirror, seems like she was just obsessed with her beauty before that and that mirror that showed her what she wanted to become (her dream) made her go insane
in my opinion : the mirror is like the concept of power .on it self is not bad ,but what you do with is the problem, is like makes us differentiate evil power with good kill or save. queen sectonia was like giving a person the power of god how much you depend on it is what defines you. in her case was her power was her appearance and she depended to much on it .
One thing I don't get is what happened to the bosses in the mirror world like is it true they are mirror world virsons of those characters because if so then why do they look difrent and dark meta night still looks like metanight?
Shadow Kirby lacks Courage
*Wut the heck, Shadow Kirby just got so relatable*
Yes
For a shadow verdion of a nintendo hero, he is clearly way more of a bro than you'de expect him to be.
Basically just ravio (link between worlds) but a Kirby.
@@nicolasmazo4198 yeah.. Shadow Kirby came first though.
Depression Kirby. I officially have a new favourite character.
I guess the mirror reflects the true darkness in your heart, or soul, and brings it to life in the mirror world.
Taranza ! tbh you’re a fake.
@@bandanan-zthatbandanaweari1121 Dark Meta Knight: YOU'RE WELCOME.
My comment was pretty old and have an I say “become” and not “because.”
Yep yep!
So, it’s the world behind the TV?
I think this video is a good time to *_reflect_* on my choices
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you.
I SPLIT my sides laughing
This comment shattered my expectations for these jokes
i agree | eerga 1
Shadow Kirby is the Kirby version of Ravio, from Zelda
Wouldn't it be more Ravio is the Zelda version of Shadow Kirby since Shadow came first?
@@SandwitchZebra
True dat
We need a 3D Kirby game that is based on Kirby going through the Dimensional Mirror and solving the Mirror world's own problems
What about a game about Shadow Kirby?
Shadow Kirby's Mirror Land
Well the mirror supposedly makes wishes come true so would there be any problems in the mirror world? In Kirby and the amazing mirror it is stated that dark minds causes the corruption there so after its defeat what problems would there be
I think the next Kirby game is actually a 3d RPG game (I'm not sure)
@@oodogla Dark mind is possibly the mirror worlds version of 0, who existed in the not-mirror world, so I would guess that there might be mirror world versions of other members of dark-matter, or even just mirror world versions of other kirby characters that we haven't seen
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"Hello? Shadow Kirby? Are you going to attack?"
Lesson Learned: Anything called 'Dark' is from a mirror.
I mean, look at Dark Pit
Dark Link in Zelda2:"Of course I am the weird one again"
Dark Bowser: n o
Dark Matter-
Am I a joke to you?
@@GoldWheels my arm pit is dark
*D A R K M E T A K N I G H T B A T T L E T H E M E I N T E N S I F I E S
Now that Void was said to exist in every dimensions, I'm pretty sure Dark Mind is supposed to be Void's incarnation in the Mirror World, which would explain his Dark Matter-like appearance and the reason why Void knows Dark Mind's attacks.
You aren't wrong, however, Dark Matter/Zero is Void with negative energy, so Dark Mind would likewise be Void of the Mirror World corrupted as well, bringing it in line with Dark Matter/Zero
My theory is that Dark Mind is the combination of the Mirror World's Nightmare and Zero which would explain the look of each phase.
I believe that Dark Mind's wizard form is a (questionable at best) parallel version of Dark Matter's swordsman form.
Now this is some *d a r k* lore.
Is the dimensional mirror made by the ancients, as it seems that every boss in Kirby that has a soul form has some link to an artefact from the ancients, e.g Marx with the clockwork stars and magalor with the crown, this would explain sectonias soul form if the mirror is from the ancients
I would make a lot of sense if the Amazing Mirror was made by the Ancients since it bears a striking resemblance to the Master Crown. Although any connection between these has not yet been stated. It's pretty likely in my opinion though.
I know I am one year late, but I do not think this would work. All soulforms are connected to the powers of artifacts and the closest relation soul of sectonia has to that theme is fusing with a magical plant. The mirror caused her to develop mental illness, not superpowers.
@@lpfan4491 You mean corrupted her and turned her into the bitch bee she was before her death by the hands of kirby,
I think and hope so. The amazing mirror, Nova, and the master crown are all very similar. All of them have a gold hue to them, grant wishes, have something to do with dark matter, and they all were made by the ancients(Except the amazing mirror but we don't know that yet) Marx and Magolor wished for the power to rule over popstar and maybe Sectonia wished for beauty. Most of Queen Sectionia's pause screen lore talked about beauty and It did say that Sectonia looked into the mirror a lot so maybe she was self conscious about how she looked. This also ties into my other theory which is that the ancients have something to do with dark matter. The amazing mirror, the master crown, and Nova all did pretty much the same thing. They took the darkness inside of the people who used them and added dark matter to it. and by darkness i mean negative emotions. Marx and Magolor's Evilness and Sectonia's sadness/self doubt.
"The orange eyeball we all know and love."
People: *_ORANGE CHEETO BALL_*
One thing that always confuses me about the Mirror World is it's location.
Like I'm pretty sure it doesn't just float above dream land like Floralia, so I assume the Dimensional Mirror is a gateway to it, but the Dimensional Mirror also leads to the arena where you fight Dark Meta-Knight and I assume that area is just another location in the Mirror World, so how does the Dimensional Mirror work, is it a gateway to the Mirror World or is it a gateway to various areas of the mirror world or is it both?
Idk maybe this is incredibly obvious but I just can't seem to wrap my head around it.
DMK's arena looks like a ruined and dark version of the Central Circle, and the ground is a repallete of one of the grounds from Radish Ruins' rooms (also an area with ??? as its boss) as instead of puffy cloudy platforms (as if everything of the Central Circle transformed into dark version of it).
As it stands, the mirror is an one-way on as it doesn't send you right before it. Whereas two-way ones send you between two of the kind in different rooms, it's unclear if they're the same door or two individual ones linked to lead between each other. Dimension Mirror doesn't seem to be attached to the pillars in scenes of Kirbys going from or to Dream Land's location (lying high in the skies of Dream Land that is). Is it really one of a kind if it appears in both dimensions? Perhaps "yes" could sneak up as an answer if it was a two-way door to some extent.
As it stands due their core features, perhaps one mirror can exist in both dimensions and be one of a kind. Dimension Mirror can also float, therefore it could appear the one that was attached to the pillars in the Central Circle appeared to have floaten off the same location in its dark reflection of the normal Central Circle room and that's how it appears to can appear in Mirror Wolrd's purple-colored skies in the ending scene (as well as float high above Dream Land).
Can only reflect bad things? Perhaps Kirby needed a location and the only location it could reflect is its own (therefore wishing the bad CC because it reflects only wishes for bad things). DMK ended up waiting Kirby right away in the dark CC reflection room? Perhaps he could sneak in as it got repaired but Kirby was busy dancing having collected the last shard, that's like 15 seconds for the "???" who is aware Kirby's coming after Dimension Mirror because he fought him for one shard.
Why did regular MK enter the same dark reflection of CC room after being beaten by DMK in the intro cutscene? Perhaps nowhere because the Dimension Mirror was just broken and he appeared whereever the next wish led to. But that'd mean DMK'd have to wish the same as Kirby mere seconds before, to appear in the bad reflection of the same room they're coming from.
But how exactly one's wish gets granted? Passing through one wished in front of? Can you pass through one without wishing anything and where would that lead? Thanks for coming to my wasTEDtimeshittalk.
Hot & Edgy take: The Dimensional Mirror leads to the Mirror World, and The Dimensional Mirror inside it is really the same one, leading BACK to the Non-Mirror World, which shows up as dark, because Kirby's World is secretly the REAL Dark Mirror World, but Dark Mind corrupted their mind to think the Dark World was really good the whole time!
@@Meteorz wow can we get a Dark Mirror World canon episode now xD
@@Meteorz I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
Headcanon: it floats in dreamland's atmosphere, you can also see Shadow Kirby going down thru the clouds to take a peek at the Jambastion in Star Allies
"there is no such thing as a world in the mirror"
Know i feel safe thanks
Dark Meta Knight: nayo
Dont worry I underSTAND the reference
*Illuso and Man in the Mirror intensifies*
So basically, the events of Triple Deluxe (which non-canonically also led to Taranza's actions in TKCD) happened because Shadow Kirby goofed up and let Dark Meta Knight corrupt the Dimension Mirror again?
Also, good thing Extra Modes aren't canon, otherwise Dedede would still be trapped in the Mirror World after breaking the Dimension Mirror in Dededetour.
Man, I wish there was some way for HAL to make extra modes canon, even if it would go back on that one statement. The soul bosses, Galacta Knight's fights, the deepest depths of the lore. All non-canon (with the likely exception of Heroes in Another Dimension)
If they did that, they would have to give explanations for the inconsistencies in almost every extra mode: things like Dedede getting back from the Mirror World, Pop Star still being mechanized with the Access Ark after Meta Knight is freed from the mind control, the Parallel bosses replacing their regular counterparts in the Mages' Guest Star. It would only create more confusion, which we already have enough of at the moment.
I know, I said some way, there's a very slim chance something like that could happen. I just wish it could. But it's gone way too far for that. Not only all of that, but also the explanations of how most of the EX, DX, and 2.0 bosses exist (Magolor EX, Sectonia DX, Haltmann 2.0, etc) KRtDL's entire EX mode, and possibly every Guest Star Route. There's so much stuff that they can't explain, it starts to make sense why they made all that non-canon. But I still wish it was anyway.
@@bluekirby_64 I have my own explanations for those things. Notice the screen fades to white when Dedede destroys the mirror. I think this means he was teleported back to Popstar, due to him not belonging in the mirror dimension. He was sent there for universal balance. Popstar was also never mechanized in meta knightmare returns. Why does it look like that then? I think a part of Star Dream barely survived the explosion. And since Haltmann was dead, it tried to find a new admin. It did so by loading up backup data of the mechanization to lure in a strong individual. Meta Knight investigates, and cue the events of the mode. I also think it would be strange for some extra modes to be canon, like heroes in another dimension, but not the others. It feels off, and a bit like lazy story telling.
Shadow Kirby didnt Goof Up
He freaked out
You deserve far more attention. Also everyone who likes kirby should listen
to the kirbys 25th anniversery concert on whatever platform they want.
Thx for the suggestion! I haven't heard it all the way but I'll get to that
My thoughts on Kirby Clash series, I believe that the series is a play, showing the history of dreamland itself. Deluxe doesn’t have much as super does so I’ll use it as my base. In SKC and KCDX, it starts off with a peaceful creature usually coexisting with the citizens of the dream kingdom going berserk and attacking the people. Hearing this, team Kirby (who I believe is the aeon hero and the four heroes of yore when they were young) comes to town and defeats the beast. Afterwards, they start hearing rumors about a sorcerer being the one responsible for the chaos and chase after his trail defeating other rouge beasts in their way. Once catching up to them, they battle and emerge victorious, but realize the sorcerer was still out there scheming and soon they follow in hot pursuit. They find him in the decisive battle area and find him summoning an ominous figure: Dark Mind right before his prime believing he will put an end to everything at his command, but gets launched away to the dreamscape. After “ending” Dark Mind, peace returns to the kingdom for a while and team Kirby gets a long deserved break, but word recently spreads that monsters are going berserk again and they spring into action to find the source, but not without finding a familiar foe. Dark Mind returns, fueled with vengeance and tries to take down the team once more but inevitably fails and becomes imprisoned in the mirror world. After the skirmish, they find the sorcerer once more summoning what appears to be a round spherical object: Void Termina (why I believe this is the case is galacta’s extreme power comes from said void and I don’t see anyone being able to dodge the crap which is Void’s attack patterns) Team Kirby does battle with the sorcerer and emerge victorious, however it’s too late. Void was successfully summoned and ready to wreak havoc on the world. However the heroes managed to win and with their newly found power, sealed Void and the dark heart away.
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Evil **THOTS**
She a *THOTTHOTTHOT*
This is a fantastic episode. Super interesting and the Shadow Kirby part was on point.
Shadow Kirby when he grabs Thor’s hammer and throws it to Kirby
Now that you bring the subject up, I wonder what shadow dedede and dark meta knight were before dark mind struck. Was shadow dedede generous and loyal to his subjects? Did dark meta knight always fight dirty to get the upper hand? Not that these questions matter but it’s interesting to think about.
So, to counter dark matter you need love. But what about Dark Mind? Well I'm guessing it's through using good memories. I think the difference between dark mind and dark matter is that matter controls hosts like puppets while mind literally changes the host's intentions and thoughts. So if you bring back one's good memories, they will remember who they once were such that they can avoid evil thoughts and have good intentions again.
Edit: Man, this would make for an awesome Kirby game, don't you think?
2020 Edit:
Beating Dark Matter with love now feels too cheesy and old now. I hope HAL is gonna stop using Dark Matter as a main Villain in the next game. We already have 4 games with it.
Dark Mind would be much more interesting. Not only do you simply get rid of Dark Mind itself, but you also have to deal with the Long-lasting effects of it. Corrupted thoughts, memories removed and altered to turn someone truly evil.
So imagine, what if Godlike beings like Galacta Knight or even Kirby got corrupted by Dark Mind? Will Kirby be able to restore their former Glory even after beating Dark Mind?
I hope HAL has a story like this in mind.
Why don't you work at HAL?
Glacorite
I hope the next Kirby game is something like an Amazing Mirror 2
@@alisajohns8949 Same, man. I'd love another Kirby game that goes more into the lore surrounding the mirror world and also improves upon Amazing Mirror's nonlinear, metroidvania-esque gameplay.
@@alisajohns8949 oi I would love that so much! It has been my wet dream for at least 5 years.
U know what I mean
Similar to the Dark Matter species!
If we have a sequel to kirby and the amazing mirror, I feel like shadow kirby should be playable.
It’s a good reflection on how much we know now if you know what I mean.
Well in hindsight, considering how this game turned turn out with TRG’s playthrough, DMK’s plan of Kirby splitting might as well have been a solid one after all.
My theory is that the dimensional mirror characters are made from anger dark meta knight is evil because he has anger same as shadow dedede but Kirby isn’t evil at all just like you said Kirby has courage but shadow kirby has none probably because he thinks he’s not strong enough,so when meta knight was beaten by dark meta knight in amazing mirror that meant meta knight had more anger then happiness but dedede was able to beat shadow dedede because he had more good in him.
Shadow Dededes *true* enemy was the darkness in his own heart, so kind of makes sense
Is there anyone out there who beat team Kirby clash without purchasing anything cause that's what I did
Same
I did
@@isaiahtorres7873 Same
I have....I bought 2000 gem apples after beating the game as a reward
Meteorz:DX FOR YOU, DX YOU! DX FOR EVERYONE!!!
I came in expecting to be dissapointed but now I'm all but convinced you've read my twitter and that kinda scares me.
Feel free to post this to r/suspiciouslyspecific if you want. And I'm fairly sure you do.
What's even your Twitter handle? Most of this info was in the original video, not sure what I apparently copied...
Awesome! I've been waiting for coverage on the mirror world and Team Kirby Clash Deluxe. It may be free to play, but Kind D-Mind is still one of the coolest concepts for a villain (with one of the best battle themes) in a Kirby game. Can't wait for the video about Another Dimension!
3:30 dark matter controls matter and dark mind controls mind... Ok now I'm 100% certain that dark mind is mirror world zero
My interpretation is that Dark Mind is not a reflection of Dark Matter or Nightmare. While Dark Matter and Dark Mind probably have a common origin, Void Termina (maybe Nightmare too) I don’t think Dark Mind is a counterpart to Dark Matter. I prefer to think of it as a separate entity. The thing with King D Mind being brought into existence by Taranzas evil mind sounds somewhat similar to the description of Void Soul taking different forms depending on whether positive or negative energy is gathered. So that’s likely how Dark Mind as well as many other Kirby villains came into existence
who said dark mind can't be both Nightmare and Zero?
Maybe he's nightmare but get possessed by zero?
Mind... *BLOWN.*
>when you make a counterpart to a boss with a name obviously derived from it and later everyone believes it is a counterpart of everything but that boss
I can’t wait for the video on another dimension as I find it interesting and I love the parallel bosses
You have no idea how long I've been waiting for this
Maybe Dark Meta Knight would’ve done a better job fooling Kirby and the Player if his health bar had Meta Knight written above it instead of ???. By the time Amazing Mirror came out, I’m sure everyone who was familiar with the series knew who Meta Knight was. It’s kinda obvious that something’s up when they don’t put Meta Knight’s name there despite the fact that we all knew him.
0:21 wow meta knight I never knew about those blue luscious locks of yours XD
I think that Dark Meta Knight might have had a change of heart in Star Allies, I mean if a pure went into the mirror world and into him he might have shown a new side and was willing to help Kirby afterwards when summoned.
Kirby Canon is when Kirby becomes a Canon.
I love that now we can say that Kirby Clash Deluxe likely is cannon because of the Magalor story in RTDD
Since Shadow Kirby lacks courage........does that mean everyone in that world is possessed by Dark Matters?
Im wondering if the mirror is another artifact build by the anchients? I mean it checks alot of boxes.
1: Its a golden magical mirror with the power to grand wishes and it created a mirrored version of dreamland. Most artifacts if not all of them have magical abilities like granding wishes and making dreams reality.
2. Alot of anchient artifacts are somehow sentient. The mirror is no exception. In triple deluxe in dededetour the mirror just magicaly appears and sends out shadow dedede and dark meta knight. And when dark meta knight is defeated the mirror comes back and sucks him in the mirror. It seems that its doing that on its own.
3. And the last one where did the mirror come from? Someone had to make it.. its a golden magical mirror. The star rod is also in dreamland and that is made by the anchients
Dark Mind might not be a Mirror Zero at all. The Mirror World was said to reflect wishes BEFORE Dark Mind showed up. Conclusion: Dark Mind is NOT an inhabitant of the Mirror Dimension, but an invader. So, that begs the question, where did Dark Mind come from?
I've always wondered where it was said that the Dimension Mirror reflected wishes. Would you mind telling me where? And yeah I felt like it was kind of implied that Dark Mind was an invader in the opening cutscene
@@chinyereudeh3405 0:22
@@bluekirby_64 Thx
Or that dark mind is the result of a very dark wish.
Dark Matter corrupts Matter
Dark Mind corrupts Minds
Dark Crafter corrupts Crafts
Is it a bad thing to say that I actually died to shadow Kirby once?
Kinda
Kinda bc he is not really bad
Y e s
No its impressive
Your health must have been low.
This is making me think of what Shadow Kirby would be like if he appeared in a future game as something more than a cameo. Maybe they could add to his character a bit.
I wonder what the mirror world Bandanna dee is like...
So if you split kirbies in 4ths, they all retain the same power, but if you split them in 10ths it just works.
Kirby and the Amazing Mirror is the most underrated Kirby game. It’s such a shame no one ever really talks about it
shadow Kirby being a coward.
makes a lot of sense
4:21 for shadow Kirby
If Dark Mind is the Mirror World’s Zero so wouldn’t death just be an inconvenience to him like Zero? He would eventually regenerate and return like Zero. Also here’s a thought, what if Dark Mind was Nightmare’s reflection possessed by Zero’s reflection so it could have the power to not just take bodies but minds too? Nightmare could enter dreams after all. Dark Mind is neither Dark Matter or the Nightmare terrorizing your Mind, he is both, he is Dark Mind.
Oh good, now I want to return to the mirror world in a Samuel to do a cleanse and teach Shadow Kirby some courage
So basically
Dark meta knight ruined the lives of many mirror people which remind you, NEVER GOT FIXED. Then he corrupts the soul of sectonia and makes taranza get crippling depression. THEN he becomes a “friend” to get the jamba hearts which corrupt even more...
From what I can see, dark meta knight is a horrible successor to dark mind, as you can see with what he dose and his motives. I think he is the next Kirby villian and won’t be redeemed.....oh yeah and he hurt our favorite spider boi....he is gonna die by my own hands for that
Yeah like what the fuck is his problem
*goddamnit I need more Shadow Kirby*
Shadow Kirby sucks at his job
So if dark matter controls the body and dark mind warps the mind. Then who corrupts the spirit?
Andres Marrero Uhhhhh..... Dark Spirit?
@@justawhim maybe?
I do
Admit it, this is just a setup for a Dark Soul joke =P
@@Meteorz Or you can say we have ZERO sense of humor. and that's Final.
We definitely need a Kirby game all about the Dimensional Mirror
From now on, I suggest we refer to worlds outside the Gamble Galaxy and Another Dimension as 'a Different Dimension.'
mirror Kirby is also probably shy unlike kirby
Thank you TH-cam for not notifying me that this came out
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I MUST HAVE MORE LORE
Kirby is True Heroic. Shadow Kirby is True Neutral.
Meta Knight is Heroic Neutral. Dark Meta Knight is True Evil.
King Dedede is Chaotic Good. Shadow Dedede is True Chaotic. D-Mind is Chaotic Evil.
Bandana Dee is Neutral Good. So then Shadow Bandana Dee would be...?
I know a lot of people with a preaty dark mind.
*cue the dark mind phase 2 theme*
Next one could be What is Kirby Canon? "Dream Friends"
I believe Sectonia wished upon the Dimensional Miror to become more beautiful, as its purpose was to grant wishes. However, things only went downhill... For everyone.
Shadow kirby is like ravio = both cowardly versions of great heroes, who occasionally help out said heroes
Taranza did nothing wrong.
5:55 So pretty much taranza can warp through space
AIDEN LIVE AND RELOADED 2 I mean, there’s a portal to an alternate universe just chilling in the sky
DIAGLA CONFORMED
Is this DX stuff basically the same theory but with improved information in recent canons and better understanding?
Pretty much yes, unless said theory was debunked, it which case it states the new one instead. That being said, I'm making all of these as well to lead up to other videos, to create the perfect KCU (Kirby Canon Universe =P) the video on Another Dimension will probably be the last one until another Kirby game is released
I get this is 2 years old but might aswell add my 2 cents on that ending part
Like how the dark matters are made up of the negative (or positive) energies of the universe and such, dark mind may also be a parallel to that but as in the mind
So a dark mind can be created by negative thoughts instead of energy
This fits with the whole zero and dark mind being paraellels to eachother
Maybe Dark Mind IS a wish from some Kirby villain, either Zero or Nightmare.
4 kirbys is way to overpowered
Amazing Mirror was such a badass game.
A fully interconnected world that players could explore SEPERATELY. It was like a Kirby mmo!
In a officially HAL post translated on tumblr HAL says dark mind is indeed no more than the manifestation of dark thoughts.
Edgy Borb is back!
Dark Meta Knight: I am no Borb.
You know what. What if Dark Mind came before 0?
@Meteorz what Dark Meta's idea was spliting kirby into 4 equalling powerful? He believed the clones would fight kirby and overwhelm him. But he failed to know how Kirby is pure of heart.
I sure hope we get game focusing on the mirror world reflecting bad thing, and that kirby needs something similar to the friend hearts to purify the mind of those who were mentaly corrupted.
"There is no such thing as mirror world"
2 part later:
...When did I say there was no such thing as the Mirror World in the Kirby games?
@@Meteorz i dont talk about you, this is a joke from jojo bizarre adventure where kakyoin saids there is no such thing as mirror world
Oh, whoops =P
lovin it
This also ties into my theory on how the amazing mirror, Nova, and the master crown are all related. All of them have a gold hue to them, grant wishes, have something to do with dark matter, and they all were made by the ancients(Except the amazing mirror but we don't know that yet) Marx and Magolor wished for the power to rule over popstar and maybe Sectonia wished for beauty.Most of Queen Sectionia's pause screen lore talked about beauty and It did say that Sectonia looked into the mirror a lot so maybe she was self conscious about how she looked. This also ties into my other theory which is that the ancients have something to do with dark matter. The amazing mirror, the master crown, and Nova all did pretty much the same thing. They took the darkness inside of the people who used them and added dark matter to it. and by darkness i mean negative emotions. Marx and Magolor's Evilness and Sectonia's sadness/self doubt. Also I like the fact the shadow Kirby is all Kirby's bad qualities. His mischievous side, his lazy side, and him not having courage. I think that's such good character design.
I really don't understand that Dark Mind being the Mirror World's Dark Matter was ever up for debate. Do people just not see the "Mind over matter" pun?
so in conclusion: shadow kirby needs hugs
Kirby is the hero of Popstar and one of the most powerful beings in existence.
Shadow Kirby is trying his best.
3:13 Maybe the mirror DOES make your wishes come true. However, if your wishes are dark, then you'll just end up being corrupted like Sectonia.
i could see that tbh - if sectonia's wish was to be more beautiful, one rooted in such self-loathing could have warped itself into what she's become by the time of triple deluxe
Hey remember kibz from the amino well that’s me! I just got into pokemon now
When will u do a boss list
Yay new vid
1:32
“He put up quite a fight”
Dark Meta Knight hits Kirby
Kirby, Unfazed: “oh ok”
And There Dark Meta Knight in Star Ailles Um the Only Reason Why stuff and Playable Dark Meta Knight Odd Well For Many Thing However What Be A Dark Glacata Knight Be Like?
An EDGIER GALACTIA KNIGHT
The edgiest swordsman in the galaxy
Morpho Knight EX minus butterfly
I know I'm late but Hey you got your wish
The Mayans Say That Reflection Sends You Into Other Worlds. I Guess That's How The Mirror World Got It's Inspiration.
Wait a second.... you updated all the thumbnails?
I bet the next one will be "aron warrior" or just "galacta knight DX"
I don't know about sectonia and the mirror, seems like she was just obsessed with her beauty before that and that mirror that showed her what she wanted to become (her dream) made her go insane
Nice
in my opinion : the mirror is like the concept of power .on it self is not bad ,but what you do with is the problem, is like makes us differentiate evil power with good kill or save.
queen sectonia was like giving a person the power of god how much you depend on it is what defines you.
in her case was her power was her appearance and she depended to much on it .
Next on what is Kirby canon? Chuchu
One thing I don't get is what happened to the bosses in the mirror world like is it true they are mirror world virsons of those characters because if so then why do they look difrent and dark meta night still looks like metanight?
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast