Father John Misty - Chloë and the Next 20th Century ALBUM REVIEW
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For me, this is somewhat of an unfortunate album for Mr. Tillman.
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FAV TRACKS: GOODBYE MR. BLUE, FUNNY GIRL
LEAST FAV TRACK: KISS ME
FATHER JOHN MISTY - CHLOE AND THE NEXT 20TH CENTURY / 2022 / SUB POP / TRADITIONAL POP
4/10
Y'all know this is just my opinion, right? - เพลง
I now know how the dark twisted fantasy fans felt💀
I'm not sure this dive into the past is exactly nostalgic for a "better time." I feel like the point was that all of the bullshit from the past is still haunting us. That all of our modern issues and shallowness and political turmoil and whatever are just new adaptations of past problems. Hence the shallow old Hollywood veneer over stories of various types of failure and heartbreak and disaster. I enjoy the album a good deal more than you, but I don't think it's ever going to be my favorite FJM album. Your line about the dustiest antique shop on Main St. had me rolling.
I think this is a great interpretation, but it helped me identify an issue with the lyricism of the album. I think it would have been really interesting (and very on brand for FJM) to include more modern motifs to drive home the fact that all these nostalgic stories are in fact taking place in the present, but the absence of these motifs paired with the nostalgic composition removes any temporal contrast and just comes off as a bunch of sentimental songs from the past. I'd say the only song that has anything like this is the "lefty shit" referenced in Buddy's Rendezvous, which demonstrates that the political landscape in question is the one we are currently in.
@@popkornking Yeah more modern references would have provided a more interesting counterpoint to the music. I suppose there is the mention of Letterman and Val Kilmer in Batman to reinforce the anachronism of the words and orchestrations, but I could have done with more than just out and out homage on some of the tracks. It's easily a 7 or 8/10 album for me though.
@@popkornking the final song literally has a Jerry Cantrell-esque guitar solo interjection. I think that counts.
@@anikkabir934 The last song is great and clearly supposed to wrap everything together in describing the way history is repeating itself. But without any modern motifs in the preceding songs there's nothing to wrap up.
This is what Pitchfork and other critics have argued, and Tillman might be going in that direction. The problem for me is that the music is, well, boring. If I wanted to analyze old Hollywood love song pastiche, maybe I'd read an essay but I certainly don't want to listen to it. The playability on this album will be like visiting a history museum, not too often for many.
Anthony Fantano listens to music sober in a flannel and then wonders why he doesn't like it.
Oh snap
OUCH
I mean if one absolutely must be not-sober to enjoy something it probably isn’t very good
@@JC-yy8iv this is a weird take.
This killed me 💀
Melon heard the line "Forget that lefty shit your mom drilled in your mind" and dropped the album to a 4
I heard that line, and immediately thought of all the people I know with blue hair and pronouns that love FJM
@@t17389z everyone has pronouns dummy
@@t17389z blue hair AND pronouns??? unbelieabale.
@@t17389z I bet you havn't met any of them IRL
@@MadDeuceJuice I live in a hippy college town, trust me
With love and respect, I feel like this album was tailor made for Anthony to misundestand
You're much too late Melon, I've already decided I love this album.
God king shit
SAME
Me too
Yep
I just love it.
Well there goes the Father John Misty interview. Thanks Melon
For the better
yeah that would have been great... maybe more entertaining than the record. darn.
Given Josh Tillman hasn’t done interviews since 2017 it wasn’t likely to happen to begin with.
Lol this was never going to happen in the first place. Guarantee Anthony isn’t on Josh’s radar
He would’ve given this album a 9/10 if FJM was interviewed prior
Maybe this will finally convince him to do what the fans really want, Father John Mitski
It's just like Father John Misty but he says he wants to be kissed every 20 seconds.
@@hamdiatasoy2456 LOL
Midski
Feel like this review is a good example of Fantano just not enjoying an aesthetic very much, which is pretty rare
This
He had a similar take on “Sketches of Brunswick East” by King Gizzard. If you don’t enjoy the aesthetic at its core, you’re probably not going to like the record. Kiss Me (I Loved You) for instance, is one of my favorite tracks, and he couldn’t stand it. To each his or her own I guess.
Possibly, but this album still seems like a low point creatively in his discography regardless. Love the papa but these songs are just forgettable
I really liked it, but I can see why other people didn’t.
i think this is cause the songs aren't catchy, and thats not a bad thing. its just how this songs are.@@colehelvey4547
Completely glossed over the lyrics to “Q4”, it’s a hell of a song concept. No one tells stories through songwriting the way FJM can. Also, I really love the electronic warble effect layered into the verses on “Kiss Me”, it sounds so dreamy, and the way it contrasts with the chorus, which ditches the effect entirely in favor of a clearer, more pure vocal performance, is really quite spectacular. The “kiss me” refrain is already exceedingly gentle and softly-sung, and yet that transition from vocal effect to no vocal effect results in a hook that has an even more ethereal and surreally beautiful sound. It’s almost as if a fog has cleared as the way in which he’s chosen to express his love - a simple “kiss me” - comes into focus. It left a strong impression on me.
Agreed. While "Kiss Me" isn't my favorite song on the album, I really thought the vocal effect was interesting and really drives the song.
wow Anthony giving a FJM album a low score is historic
disappoint FJM albums are the rarest of them all 😔🤚
flashbacks to his review of the Charli xcx record
@@johnchavez8386 well at least Fantano was pretty meh about Charli's music before Vroom Vroom EP. but nah, this one's different.
Fantano has always consistently enjoyed every FJM record - giving scores of 7 (once), 8 (twice) and 9 (also ended up being his album of the year). this one is truly shocking cuz FJM's been on a hot streak.
Undeserved af too.
Fantano doesn’t understand the album at all.
Wasn’t he really lukewarm on Fear Fun?
It's okay not to like the sound of the album. But I feel like your lyrical analysis is a bit disingenuous and missing the point. With everything you know about Josh Tillman, do you honestly think he's pining for a bygone era--especially when he references the Nazis multiples times--and not trying to make a deeper statement about the past? For example, in the last lines of "The Next 20th Century" he's definitely NOT romanticizing the past. He's arguing that human oppression/violence/war is cyclical and inescapable ("The wheel is turning from night into day [...] And now things keep getting worse while staying so eerily the same"), and he doesn't want to live through yet another cycle, or century, of this bloodshed and hatred. I know the old-timey sound isn't super vogue, but I think it's kind of brilliant that he's pulling from 1920s-40s music because it's exactly a century ago. It proves his point that things don't really change, and we're going through the same issues all over again as if stuck in time.
Hope people see this one
I don't want to be too mean but I think twitter broke Fantano's brain. What you're saying should be kind of obvious for a music critic that's supposed to put a lot of thought into the music they review, and yet...
Oh, I really like your thesis on this one. Incredible!!!
I don't watch many of his reviews, but he really overlooked the lyrics on Ultimate Success Today and gave it a 6. That has some of the best lyrics I've ever heard. It's one of the best albums I've ever heard. It's a masterpiece. As someone really into lyrics, I don't think I can trust his opinions on music, unless these examples are one offs
Thank you for this.
I don't like listening to reviews by cynics (notice I didn't say critics)!
He fell over the edge from professionalism to snobbery right at the jump - a state most art/literature/movie critics arrive at when they clearly don't dig sentimentality's rational exploration (yes I said rational - emotions have predictable patterns/progression [ex. pain comes before anger, the several stages of grieving, etc.]) whilst heartily (yea one might even say heartlessly) patting himself on the back for rejecting 50% of the common human experience as if this schism were somehow commendable.
So yes thank you for going where angels fear to tread.
i knew u weren’t going to love it but i was expecting like a 6 goddamn chill
That’s such a lazy, 2015 Buzzfeed article-point about how the past sucked for most people. Nothing on this album suggests that the past was “good”, certainly not having 60s-era string and bossa nova sections. If anything, it’s attitude is that the desire to escape the present is part of why things today are so awful.
Agreed. A lot of his lyrical takes have been really lazy and obtuse lately.
I got jumpscared by the score for this LP
same even though I didn’t like the album either I was shocked to see such a low score as a 4 lmao since Fantano usually loves him
how is buddy's rendezvous not on your faves though...
God I love that song
Or the closing track which is one of his best ever
his vocal delivery on buddy’s rendezvous is soooo sleepy, he does absolutely nothing to sell vocally it which is a very odd choice. It also dishes out the line “Forget that leftie shit your mom drilled in your head” which is maybe why he didn’t like it.
I'm a couple years late to the party for this album, but the past week I've probably listened to Buddy's Rendezvous around 50 times.
I’m pretty shocked Fantano didn’t like the whole glitzy showtune vibe contrasted with his rather bleak lyrics makes for a great concept. Im giving this review a light 5/10
can’t believe how many albums in my top 10 of the year melon is feeling meh on. i find that what we like often overlaps, but maybe i’m breaking free of melon’s opinions finally
What are your other top album picks so far this year?
@@corbydaniel4256 i lied for clout the only other one in my top 10 he reviewed not overwhelmingly positively was PUP, he hasn’t reviewed wet leg yet but i’m expecting at least a decent 7 from him
@@corbydaniel4256 and Eichlers but he likely won’t review that album so it doesn’t count imo
@@TheVFDGamer All that, for a drop of clout…
@@Sonylombax tf do you mean all that lmao
This record has been so divisive among FJMs fanbase. I think it's a solid album. I don't really see how it's romanticizing the past though, literally every song has some kind of depressive message to it but with beautiful instrumentals. I think melon missed the mark.
for me it's like revisiting the past with so much nostalgia, you end up rewriting and romanticizing it, even if it wasn't that good - and this matches the Old Hollywood glamour scenario.
I also think he missed the mark on his own opinion. What a dummy
Who knows, maybe the past was actually better
Agreed
Exactly, this album was hilarious to me and surprisingly poignant. It's so obvious that he's pointing out the anger and bitterness lurking behind all these classic sounds, the rampant misogyny, and so on. When I first heard Chloe I laughed out loud just because of how ridiculous it is.
Not really agreeing with that it romanticizes or glorifies the past, I interpreted his ode to the 50’s as a dream and that we may long for that time, but we’re really just instead entering the same century, with a different look but similar sound. FJM isn’t one to really be naive about our past or our present times. It’s not my favorite album of his, but his sound on this one makes sense, especially when the glamour of that era always overshadows the many, many issues that went on during that time. Instead, a lot of us choose to look at it like a dream, when instead history’s just repeating itself. But that’s just my take.
I agree. I feel like perhaps FJM watched a ton of old 50s movies during quarantine or something and thought “wouldn’t that be nice” but realized the 50s also sucked. Of you think about it hard enough, every decade/century/millennium has stuff about it that sucks.
That's how I felt especially after listening to 20th Century in the album context. That song really turned the album around for me.
damn anthony - also I don’t think the framing of the album was to say he wants to go back to the 50s specifically - he just wants to write some love songs to get his and everyone else’s mind off the world. josh’s surrender from his normal verbose musings/commentaries on the world is what’s beautiful about Chloe to me. I guess if you’re not in for that you’re not in for that, and that’s okay too
Right I seriously think this album is just going over peoples heads.. I guess if you know you know
@@dkes53 it’s literally summed up in the last lines of the album. “Idk bout you but I’ll take the love songs if this century’s here to stay”
bring back the dislikes count
I really liked this album but okay, I guess.
That opening track it's an instant hood classic.
While I agree with most of the criticism surrounding the music here, I think you totally missed the tone in the lyricism, especially on the closing track. Tillman describes the cyclic nature of history in this track and how humanity never appears to mature in any meaningful ways, hence the line about none of us ever getting to experience "childhood's end". Greed and corruption will forever plague us, and always have. In this way, he breaks down the distinctions between past and future. In doing so, he also breaks down distinctions between the 20th century, the one he is paying honage to, and the "next" one, which is the one we live in now, drawing parallels between the two. He sees the only possibility for escape in fleeting love songs, though these are ultimately of course a distraction, a way to escape and absolve ourselves of enacting any meaningful change. As with most FJM tracks, there are always layers of irony throughout this record that I am surprised you seemed to miss or just didn't consider.
Very good take, I agree with your interpretation. That being said the subtexts on this record seem to be a bit more subtle than on his previous albums. You have to look for them more. I've missed a lot of what's going on in the songs on my first couple of listens and am still discovering details in the narrations. Not sure if I actually prefer his writing that way (I still think the album is weaker than Honeybear or TIF) but melon's review definitely comes across as quite reductionist and dismissive.
it sometimes shocks me to see that the fantano comment section actually - most of the time - has a lot more interesting thoughts on an album than Anthony himself. like sometimes it just feels like he totally didn't take the time to actually really do research or/and delve into the albums.
imagine thinking that your interpretation of a song is Correct and Objectively Factual and anyone who has a different idea has "missed something" LMAO
@@hamlethoe9694 I never claimed to be objectively right about my interpretation, just that Anthony missed something, which he undoubtedly did. Saying FJM thinks the past was better is such a 7th grade, surface-level reading of the lyrics, which completely ignores the context of the song, most of the lyrics, and who FJM is as an artist. It's like saying A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift is earnestly suggesting a solution to poverty is eating all the poor people. Sure, you can read it that way, but you are clearly missing the hidden intention that hides below a surface level if that is your take-away. Beyond that, there are just such obvious references to history's cyclicism in the lyrics that saying that "FJM wants to live in the past" makes no sense in the context of the song.
I've never muttered "Fuck Off" out loud, by reflex, to any TH-camr until today.
Lol stay mad
Dang that’s pretty brutal. A lot of good points though, especially on Olvidado, which I was really disappointed by. I still enjoy it quite a bit, but I really am a sucker for the nostalgia of the era and how tongue in cheek the tribute feels
These are the moments when I truly miss the YT dislike button.
there's a google chrome extension that shows it...get it
@@timsullivan2769 whatttt that's amazing
It's currently at 1k
This review didn't resonate with me at all. I've not been able to stop playing the album since it came out! I'd suggest people give it a try; if limited on time, listen to Buddy's Rendezvous, Kiss Me, Q4, Funny Girl, Goodbye Mr Blue and The Next 20th Century.
Even I thought it was a 6.5/10, Fantano giving it a 4/10 is just brutal.
same
I actually enjoyed this album. I’d also like to point out, Anthony, that “white person sings in Spanish/over a Hispanic or Latino instrumental” is not “gentrification,” unless you mean that he is refining singing in Spanish, which I doubt as he is most certainly not. That word is so brutally misused these days. I would expect someone with your level of vocabulary to know when to use it.
Precisely
disappointing father john misty albums are the rarest of them all 😔🤚
Good one! Ha!
this review is pure comedy.
Already love it! (agree with him about Kiss Me though). How Melon didn’t have a huge grin on his face all through the opening track I don’t understand - its joyous campy twinkletoes nonsense - should’ve been a single
I don’t normally go to this but Fantano dipped his toe in kill joy. Really going to be the guy listening to a throwback and talk about the human tragedy and failure of the American dream. It’s escapism to an imagined past that happened to have fun music.
@@Caveboy0 that sounds lame.
@@Caveboy0 I mean, maybe he just doesn't like how the track sounds.
@@nevadanate4957 oh no I’m not discrediting that it’s just he couldn’t help but “um actually” the concept at the end.
Fantano seems to be suffering severe depression or something. His reviews are notorious for putting viewers in a downed mood as of late.
My favorite thing about this is that Tillman would hate everything about your opinion no matter what it was
not liking the opener is an L its literally the one track on this album that has any fun or personality to it
agreed, although Funny Girl is good too imo
just heard a lot of this album live at Red Rocks with a symphony accompiament , uh- it's kind of incredible
This is one of those "ignorance is bliss" reviews for me. I just listened to the album and loved it. He's my favorite artist my lifetime; honesty, there's no way I wouldn't love it. But listening to your review and criticisms, I don't necessarily disagree with them. It's just not what I was looking for. I was looking for the beauty, instrumentation, and introspective lyrics that I've come to expect from an artists like FJM. Having to listen to every album in such an objective, critical manner must be draining on you at times...sometimes it's just nice to be an unapologetic fanboy and gobble up whatever creative output is provided. Sorry you didn't like this one; still appreciate all you do, Fantano.
Not everyone is a fanboy I guess. I don't think it's inherently draining to not like an artist's new album nor is it much of a choice. I love Charli XCX and was close to being a stan and then Crash came out. I'm not going to pretend Crash is great just because "being critical hurts head"
I'm a FJM fanboy and still couldn't get into this album. It's just... boring? I don't care about lyrics and never have, and the instrumentals on this album are lackluster and unimpressive. It sucks because I really want to like the album but it's just so uninteresting to me.
this is a perfect ketamine album you guys should listen to it in a k hole you’ll give it a 10
lol thanks I'll remember that for the next time
Lmaooooo ok down
I thought the style was one you don’t really see replicated or brought up, and I liked the fact he went into it the way he did, I just wish he put some stronger themes into it. It was really light and not a hole lot to grab onto. With that said I came out liking just about every song due to the style and aesthetic.
I really enjoyed this album, but I definitely understand why some people wouldn’t like it. I’ll openly admit I’m a bit of an FJM fanboy, but I feel like you’re oversimplifying and disregarding the theme of the album. The vintage style and production obviously exemplifies Josh’s romanticism about old jazz tunes and the time surrounding it, but all of the tracks end up going down this dark road, forcing Josh’s romanticism to confront reality (the dad in Buddy’s Rendezvous giving shitty advice to his hopeful daughter, the protagonist in funny girl getting ignored, the cat’s death truly signifying the end of a relationship, etc.) The final track of this song solidifies this idea by describing strange grotesque scenes about what our future holds (that are still tinged with Josh’s bizarre romanticism). No matter how much Josh returns to his idyllic idea of the past, the true darkness that hides there always reveals itself. I think this whole album is a grand struggle with the idea that, no matter where we look, past, present, or future, there seems to be no escape from the terror of reality. 8/10 I’m biased.
I especially felt the same way, and im kind of sad that Buddy’s Rendezvous got brushed off.
I love this album and it feels like all of tillman’s past albums coming together but placed within the 20s. Its beautiful
@@thephilcharles absolutely! I really loved this record. I think me sharing some of Josh’s existential terror also helped me identify with album more.
@@nicholas1892 Yup , love it. The production was great as well. Olivadado was incredible, the next 20th century, and Kiss me i love you had the best
Go ahead say Josh's romanticism one more time
Real
Melon and the 69th Century
Anthony, just because TH-cam removed the dislike button doesn’t mean you can do this and get away with it
Sometimes I just don’t understand melons analysis of song lyrics. Like with funny girl, josh clearly was trying to go for an unhinged parasocial “joker”-like narrator, why does he think that’s just his interpretation and not Josh’s intention?
Right? Very bizarre assumption that this wasn't the intention to begin with, especially considering it's FJM. How could he possibly think we should take the narrator in the song seriously?
I am truly shocked, better than pure comedy in every way hopefully this record doesn’t get lost in bad reviews which would be a serious loss for music listeners everywhere, this is a state of emergency !!
The review is too late, this already became my favourite Father John Misty record.
Agree this is not his strongest album, but there are some genuine highlights here. Goodbye Mr. Blue and Q4 are both incredible tracks, some of my fav FJM songs to date. I agree with Kiss Me though, probably the worst FJM song. Not sure what he was thinking with that one. His usually witty lyricism is completely absent from that track. Don't think it should have made it onto the record tbh. All things considered, i think it deserves a lot more than a 4/10 for sure.
i think the absence of his lyrics was intentional i believe he wanted to throw in a simple song thats more of a relaxing tune rather than a profound and lyrical one like he usually does. i think he wanted to throw a screwball here. something he would do in my opinion.
Say what you want, but Buddy's Rendezvous is amazing front to end. I was impressed Tillman managed to write the best song in his discography on his worst album yet. BTW- I'm a die-hard Lana fan, but Tillman's version runs circles around hers. It's such a beautiful track.
MELON- leave the rest of the record alone and just relisten to Buddy by itself! You'll appreciate it a lot more.
Up to this point I blindly trusted you, I could skip everything you disliked, but not in this case…
man how did you not like Q4? definitely a favorite of mine
Giving him a low score just because he went to get cigarettes and still hasnt come back is not cool, Melon.
However shitty the past there's a lot to say for wishing to go back (as FJM alludes to in this album) when the future looks increasingly like a dead end. Past at least offered time to correct while now all we do is try and fail at damage control. Excellent album man
well thats a shitty outlook
@@Justin_R20 you got something in the future to be hopeful about that we aren't privy to?
@@nevadanate4957 ya actually, living standards are by far higher than any point in human history. Technology is allowing unbelievable things to be developed. The 20th century was filled with hate, horrible wars and atrocities. Miss me with that crybaby pessimist stuff
@@Justin_R20 I said future, not present. None of that matters if fascists take over, the world plunges into war, or global warming makes the planet uninhabitable. Also don't oversell the 21st century. Crime and poverty are lower yet millennials have record levels of unhappiness and mental illness, people are poorer overall due to inflation and stagnant wages, wealth inequality has seldom been higher, fewer people than ever can find dates or even keep friends, pandemic.... like you don't have it be Lana Del Rey to think "gee things could be better than they are right now"
@@Justin_R20 I get you man but you do know there are miles between being a realist and a pessimist right? You can be skeptical without turning into a nihilist cynic. At same time there are those thinking it suits them better to stick their heads in the sand while claiming the best in humanity will prevail
Damn, Kiss Me is probably my favorite song on the album. You hate it because of the vocal effect, but to me it sounds like a guy who's so stressed out and weary that he's about to crack at any moment. Sorry we disagree here Melon, I'll forgive you one day
An oddly tedious review of an album that was sonically and conceptually cohesive and well executed in my opinion. The focus on the idea that FJM was romanticizing the specific era from which he pulls the style from feels like grasping at air. The concept as I understood it was a satirical homage to the idea of a bygone era as represented by the 40s style light jazz (in my opinion a clever choice given the oversaturation of work that idealizes this era in the media) - all the while professing a fear of the future, a feeling to which most can relate. It would seem metaphor escapes our dear melon here....
Man I love this album, the production and instrumentation is so interesting and well thought out
Personally loved this album I saw it as being meta of the now with the then and to me it works really well and I’m sucker for the sound.
I generally really enjoy this album, especially the orchestration. I don't think that it's romanticising the past, but my problems with it is mostly that FJM's vocals aren't especially engaging. They're incredibly restrained in a way which bugs me on some of the songs. It works for Chloe and Goodbye Mr Blue, but for something like Buddy's Rendezvous and The Next 20th Century I needed more emotion and dynamic range in his singing to get me into it but that just never came
Josh made this album while tap dancing down a foggy city street after buying some penny candy for his dame.
as someone who rates the rest of his FJM discog as all 8s or higher, i actually found this album difficult to sit through. your review was even a bit charitable imho… hopefully this record is just a one off experiment in this sound
This score makes me depressed. Father John Misty had such a good run with Fantano lol.
Josh Tillman is the first musican to score album of the year twice. First as a member of a band and then as a solo artist. Based.
I didn't get the songs on this album until I saw them live. I've been to two shows, one with a full orchestra and the other as an acoustic set. The two shows brought out different things in the songs. The orchestra sounded so lush and vibrant compared to the album. Hearing Kiss Me (I Loved You) acoustically, without that tremolo effect made it click for me. This wasn’t my favorite album but I’m always glad for new FJM music.
I feel like Anthony’s criticisms are valid, but don’t match the score. I was expecting a 5 or 6 based on what he said. Sure for FJM this isn’t his best work, but comparatively Tillman is still a much better songwriter than others. Also, I feel like the whole bit of it being in the past is more mindless escapism than a glorification/romanticism. Like turning on an old John Wayne western to mindlessly relax in some nostalgia after watching the current news, even though you know how racist Hollywood and John Wayne were back then. With that all being said I am a huge FJM fan and don’t like to see a score this low.
I love Tillman but old style 1940’s/1950’s throw back Michael Bublé stuff is like my least favorite kind of music
i knew i didn’t like bubble boy but i didn’t realize it was a problem with the sound itself. yeah i was surprised with how not into this style i was.
I guess the white flannel is no longer the 7 shirt.
i rarely agree with melon and i thought i had an unpopular opinion on this album but i fully agree with this review
Actually i know a lot of people not impressed with this release. On the other side there are often too many people who force themselves to like albums cause everything else by the artist is good. People should just chill and move on. So much music to listen to these days...
@@PakRT84 Rateyourmusic audience liked this album
@@PakRT84 I agree with you one hundred percent. There are a lot of fanatics these days. I live in Russia and here Charli's fans hate Anthony because he gave her 3 and 5
Didn't think at the start of 2022 both Charli XCX and Father John Misty would both make subpar albums Anthony didn't like but here we are.
Both albums were great, though.
Yea Crash is my aoty so far
CRASH is great though
@@dancerarinz556 nah lol
Aw bummer, I loved this album. I like less conceptual Misty in comparison to Pure Comedy, and really prefer him in full Neil Diamond mode.
This has me worried for Kendrick’s next album for some reason
The only thing that has me worried about Kendrick’s next album is Kendrick’s last album
I just hope the next album comes out
They aren’t even remotely similar artists
Can we stfu about Kendrick already?
@@papasheev5252 But they’ve released albums on the same year pretty consistently. There’s a connection there that’s palpable
You should watch his barbican performance with britten sinfonia
I've been looking forward to more from him for years & I really didn't care much for this album either. I listened to it twice over the weekend & keep telling myself to give it another listen but I keep finding other things to listen to first.... including some of his other albums.
I had so much hype waiting for this to come out, and I just have no thoughts on it. It hits me as nothing more impactful than one of the Father John Misty albums ever made.
Which especially hurts when _Pure Comedy_ might be my favorite LP of all time
I adore this album, but it was pretty up my alley. Happy to have an album like this from him and I think mixing what he has done here with his previous 2 albums will make some peak work for sure.
I thought it was just okay. Pretty sad for me considering his first three records are all in my top 50. With PC being in my top 5.
What hurts the most is his strongest talent is his vocals and I feel like the chops just aren’t there on this one. I hope it’s not his voice aging. I noticed the same problem on his live album in 2020.
I do believe he can recover tho
I enjoy this album quite a bit, still listening to it ever since the first singles came out, though it's not my favourite FJM record, but still, it's very good.
Lmaooo i feel you on the trying so hard to love this album
wow surprised at the low rating - my initial impression was an album with plenty happening and depressing sentiments but instrumentally lavish and impressive - maybe a re-listen necessary before i do my review
Review the new Duster album!
Musical artistry aside (and there's a lot of great stuff here), maybe Anthony should try out the new album from Sondre Lerche, "Avatars of Love". It does the job of pulling from similar eras of the past without ever falling into pastiche, and has some heartbreaking songs to boot. "Dead of the Night" is a soft-glow emotional gut punch and "Avatars of Love" it a masterpiece of modern folktronic lounge pop. Elements of Elliott and Sufjan abound, with "Cut" being a great pop single mixing Prefab Sprout and Peter Murphy...Great stuff deserving of high scores...
Much like a lot of people on here, I loved this album, but it’s good to hear a different perspective on it either way. I got the sense that the aesthetic was chosen very ironically and I like the way he committed to it (not going too hard at any point) - for me, that made the whole thing come off better.
When are we gonna see your review of billy woods’ Aethiopes?
After four albums covering so much groundbreaking content, I feared FJM's next album would be a let down.... But I think this album will probably needs a few years before it reveals whether the music was up to Josh's past glories or just a off-hand exercise in giving a nostalgic TMC/Harry Nilsson stylings, the FJM treatment.
I give it more of a 6.5-7/10 but for someone who makes music as good as FJM I can see why this was given a 4. He had a run of four great to excellent albums up to now I guess he was due for a snoozer. Its a shame he couldn't at least bring some great lyrics or hooks to this one.
Is this a glitch in the matrix ?
Am I the only one who thinks the closer track 'The Next 20th Century' is one of his best songs yet? I'm not seeing any real love for it.
I think not enjoying an aesthetic is something that can make or break an album, and aesthetic is something, in general, that is romantic. It’s very much romanticizing the time period that it’s portraying, and if you can’t separate the aesthetic from what really happened in this time period for most folks, then of course you’re not going to enjoy it. I personally give this album a strong 7 to a light 8, but definitely understand your perspective, love your stuff Fantano 💛
Damn, 4 but he's 6 foot two so I guess it's a 10
so i guess it’s a 12
@@SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand 10,2 bro
I thought he was shorter
Wait your Therapist doesn't give you a prescription for Benzedrine to help with your shoplifting habit.
Ah, my year-long awaited fantano L review
Will he even review the new Yung Lean mixtape?
BRO WHERE IS THE DESTROYER REVIEW
Man I should start keeping tally of my disagree-with-you streak right now, lol.
For me:
*Gems*:
1. Chloë
7. Olvidado (Otro Momento)
*Great*:
3. Kiss Me (I Love You)
5. Buddy's Rendezvous
8. Funny Girl
9. Only a Fool
11. The Next 20th Century
*Good*:
2. Goodbye Mr. Blue
*Decent*/*Par*:
4. (Everything but) Her Love
10. We Could Be Strangers
*Meh*:
6. Q4
Overall feeling:
~4.27/5 aka ~8.54/10.
I had the distinct feeling that you would have a tepid response to this record. Although I thought it would be a 5
Damn it feels good to have your expectations met.
I’d say this is maybe my thiiiiiird favorite FJM album?
“Return to form” “ I’m feeling a 4”.
Unfortunately, i agree. Biig swing and a miss for FJM. The aesthetic choices here are really confusing and hard to wrap my head around. On top of weak writing for josh and no sticky melodies. Especially coming off what i think is his masterpiece, gods favorite customer.
Calling GFC his masterpiece is maybe the hottest FJM take I've ever heard...crazy that you call this album full of weak writing. I understand gripes with the aesthetic/creative approach, but his lyrics are as beautiful, funny, and thoughtful as ever.
Totally weak writing on six of the songs and that's much too much. The styles are cool but the melodies and chord changes themselves are completely forgettable. Leaning on the retrofit to sustain the enjoyment just doesn't do it for me
"hard to wrap my head around"
o que me chateia né nem a bossa nova ruim em espanhol. é o fato de que a gente vai ter que esperar mais 5 anos para lançar um álbum torcer para esse próximo ser bom
não vai demorar tanto, ele falou que logo vai lançar material novo que já tá gravado. ele demora em média 2 anos entre os álbuns, foi a pandemia que atrasou tudo e agora ele tem que correr atrás do $$$$ perdido, então vai lançar música e fazer muito show
@@verybecker tão bom ver comentários em português aqui! ai meu colação
@@matheusnogueira6425 kkkk eu fico feliz também, ainda mais se é sobre o FJM :)
Sou gringo e eu fico muito feliz para ver Brasileiros escutando FJM kkkkk
Esse álbum me decepcionou um pouco. Pro nível do FJM, é bem abaixo, mas não é ruim. Minha faixa favorita é justamente a última, foi a que consegui me conectar mais.
The album: I'm fun
Melon: I hate fun
I didn't dislike the novelty effect but after multiple listening I can't wait to go for the previous albums
Father John Miss-ty 😔
I can't let this one go. Buddy's Rendezvous, bro. It's a better-written version of Tom Waits' Martha. Is it overly-sentimental? Maybe, but there are some lines i can definitely relate to. One of the most heart-breaking is "Living for no one cost me way more than it's worth". I can relate to that line more than i care to admit. The way he's able to craft words in the form if conversations astounds me. I write lyrics, and i like some of the stuff I've written, but I could never write a song this fucking good. I guess some people don't have a fatalist personality and they can't relate to some lyrics that really hit home for other people. Even though I never had kids and this is told from the perspective of an older man who missed out on watching his daughter grow up because he was too busy living for himself, I can still relate to him on a couple of levels.
It's a goddamn beautiful song and it's too bad A-Fan couldn't see that. I love it when FJM says "So you're gonna be a singer? Well I'll be goddamn". It's such a common thing to hear in conversation, but you don't hear it in songs too often. I love it. I give it 1 million stars!!!
most surprising moment of 2022