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Skill Up I have to ask you how long would you recommend playing a game like Prey before sitting firm in an opinion of it? I've played the demo and didn't much care for it yet I respect and value your opinion . I have had it happen where I've played a game and my first opinion changed due to later events in the game . What say you on this about Prey?
Hey, just a small note: in the video you mentioned you're gonna link the Prey review in the description but the description contains all reviews but Prey.
Skill Up while I did enjoy this version of prey I still want the bounty hunter prey that was supposed to be made. That said, you compared this dlc to my favorite game genre, deus ex, dishonored, splinter cell, etc. I watched the trailer and i'm..unsure. I had fun with prey and wanted to start over to go full alien but I just couldn't find the motivation to do it. That's why I'm conflicted about trying this dlc.
No one is talking about it because Bethesda did zero marketing (outside of just announcing it). I didn't even know this DLC existed until today and I keep myself fairly up to date on games I like (and I loved Prey).
No one is talking about it because right now in the gaming world hate is the only thing selling like crazy. I can't find analysis videos on these upcoming titles anymore, just "this games biggest problem" or "is this game dead? Heres why". My excitement for games is being compartmentalized and I got nowhere to turn to feel excited.
Matthew Reed You are so right. I'm not going to name names but based on you comment I know who you are talking about. There are 4-5 negative youtubers who get hundreds of thousand views every video complaining about almost every publisher and new games. Negativity and cynism sell views.
Earlier this year, I had to do a double take on my YT recommended because it was legit FILLED with click baity gloom and doom game "reviews," and it made me wanna quit playing video games. I'm soooooo glad I found Yong and Skillup (and the Gaymen laying over yonder) because this group of gamers was the refresher I needed to get excited about games again (ACG has been a constant for me thank God). Im hoping I get a rotation of game news so I can get a lot of different perspectives for full information.
David Stadler Skillup and laymen gaming do the same thing too. Idk, personally I feel that this group of reviewers manage to highlight the pros and cons with an enthusiasm for games that's felt missing in the other channels I was watching. They criticize and highlight the negatives because they really do care and not so much just for the views. Just my opinion
Quit being a baby and grow up.The fact remains that AAA gaming is in the shitters.For every god of war,we get two crappy games from EA or Activision.People who care about their hobby ,can't just shut up and nod along to bullshit
What's hilarious is that this review video showed me that the mule's inventory carried over between characters... I just never used it. I just stashed supplies everywhere like some kind of overachieving crackhead squirrel.
If only that was in the base game When doing no neuromod play throughs, running back between Morgan's office to grab shit from the safe was excruciating
@@trblemayker5157 Yeah but pretty much exclusivly because they didnt market it in any way. Hell even the base game was undermarketed and they made the stupid decision to call it Prey instead of something like Neuroshock, just because they wanted to use an already existing IP. Because of that dumb decision lots of uninformed press and consumers just flocked it for being "too boring" and "clunky", because they thought Prey was supposed to be a horror first person shooter, instead of understand it on the merits of it being a immersive sim. All these stupid decisions are because of Bethesda Softworks, the publishing company that owns Arkane Studios. Now that Microsoft bought Zenimax Online, who own Bethesda Softworks, Microsoft will make sure to not be stupid enough to undermarket Arkanes new game.
@@_--_--_ Well, they better release them on PC too and not just the box. I figured they would claim the rights to have some nice games for the Xbox lineup, but this isn't happening just yet. I am a PlayStation, Nintendo and PC guy, Xbox never interested me because it never had any games to play. As in exclusives. But one exclusive won't make me buy the console, however. This DLC was one of the best things that happened to both sim-like and rouge-like genres. And PREY itself was fantastic. They sticked the name because they didn't know what to do with the IP anymore. They bought the license to it, but never got around on making the game. So this was PREY, and to be honest, this was the better PREY we got before that. FAR better. Nothing beats space horror simulation with Synthwave music.
@@IgnemAeternum Ngl I'd read this comment but I can't because every time I tap the "read more", it takes me to the other guy's channel because of how long his name is.
I'm sold. Prey was one of my favorite games last year, but the E3 presentation made it sound like this was going to be just a bunch of challenge rooms, which really aren't usually my thing. But this sounds incredible. Thanks for bringing attention to this criminally underlooked game!
Ben McLemore same here, they 100% misrepresented this, which is rare, it sounds like a new game, not dlc. They shouldn't have called it DLC, because it's not what DLC traditionally is.
palarious you clearly don't have the Braincells to play this game, I suggest you stick to your loot boxes and simple gameplay that your two Braincells Can handle.
I've played the entire DLC. I loved the actual game. This takes the Prey mantle and bastardizes it. Since we're apparently stooping to ad hominems, try using a couple of your brain cells to reacquaint yourself with grammatical concepts like capitalization.
Hunt: Showdown has some great recent updates also. Unfortunately the modern gaming audience gets more time out of talking about things they hate/controversies than they do talking about what they enjoy.
Skill Up thank Yongyea, Fresh prince, downward thrust, and a bunch of other YTers. Shit on games with sometimes valid points but completely overlook great titles that could be helped by being given attention for the good they do.
Rick Tejeda i agree but what choice do we have when publishers want to say and get away with a bunch of bullshit excuses and skumy business decisions like lootbox-based progression systems?
miguel cobarrubias They could not just cherry pick controversial games to get views. I’m all for informing gamers of bad games and devs but they need to balance that content with videos like this, gameplay, etc. Give me some positive with the negative. When they just shit on games in every video, games that are being shit on by everyone else already, it’s obvious they are just doing it for monetization. It’s easy to complain in videos on TH-cam and viewers eat up controversy and love to get outraged.
I do love how this DLC feels a lot more like an Dungeon Crawler experience, with different colored weapon that showcases what damage does it do or what effects it has. It’s pretty damn good
I'm so happy you made this vid! I had NO idea Prey had DLC released! I'm now sitting here waiting for it to finish downloading! Thank you so much for making this vid
To be profitable, you need to provide a servicable product that the market has not seen yet. Most cash grabs latch on to what's popular, hopping from one to the other. No innovation. They have no creative drive. Instead of commenting just to comment, you should think through your ideas a little more, fam.
Thanks for spotlighting something that was being ignored but deserves attention. Its so easy to just go with the crowd and play the same things as everyone else. I own Prey but didnt know anything about the DLC.....ill definitely check it out now. Youre doing the art form a great service.
I hated Mooncrash but kept playing. Many of rage quits. But something magical happened. I figured out how the game works and fell deeply in love. Such an amazing and challanging game. It is addicting and unique.
Yo me too! I loved the base game immediately but this one took some time, and almost quit. Then I discovered how OP the volunteer was and how useful the mule operator, and it opened the flood gates! Fifty-five hours later….😂
Just finished Prey and you're right it is one of the absolutely best games out there. For those saying it's boring obviously do not know what it takes to be a great game.
You're right, I won't. I don't like 'beat the clock' games. Gaming is supposed to be something to help you relax after work, not to where you're pulling your hair out.
except i played System Shock and Bioshock and Dishonored so i've already played better versions of Prey :\ sorry. game was a dissappointment the moment they slapped the name Prey on it.
I actually didn't get sucked into prey when it first came out, I think because of the uniqueness of the enemy design. But after playing it later it reminded me of being 15 and playing half-life when it first came out and being blown away. Its awesome.
Bit of an advice: Once you unlock the Engineer, use her as your first character on each run! Maxing out her Repair skills while bringing some Recycler Charges to clear out radioactive hazards is VITAL for a clean run with the rest of the characters. The game tells you that she's not a good character for direct confrontation but it's honestly my fav character. To sum up, use Joan as much as you can during the first run: go through ALL areas and fix everything you can (doors, junctions, etc), and you'll have a well-balanced fighter who's clearing the path for all others.
When I played I’d either use her or the hacker first. And later on I’d use the Engineer last after I’d used all the other characters to gather everything on the map so I could have her recycle them with her as she has that neuromod that makes recycling a little more efficient and I’d try to get a few more neuromods that way. I also learned that if you buy a ton of grenades, and dismantle them all you get a lot of spare parts. After that you can shoot a control module and have it explode, then repair it which will give you a net profit of sim points if you’re feeling cheeky. I did this on level 5 to get a huge surplus of points to level up my characters and run through the map just destroying everything. Even when you’re cheesing the game it still feels satisfying - you’re reaping the rewards of your knowledge and that little progress you have between runs. You do one run to prepare for the next and you learn from what you saw in the previous one. I’m too tired to say this in a way that makes much sense, but mooncrash was a very fun experience. Feel like I should replay it soon honestly.
@@flipsolo That was interesting comment indeed. Never though that was possible. That's flaw of many games though. They hold your hand and tell exactly what you can do. Some leave things for player to discover and some hint, but there lies the problem. Many to player seemingly trivial problem solving things just aren't there and then player gets bored to try things, assuming there aren't even many clever mechanics in the game. It's like I'm mechanic and there's tons off electronically locked doors. I've never seen door magnetic locks retain their locking position in case of power loss. But in games things virtually never work like this. Usually it's the exact opposite, power up and you can unlock door etc.
Damn, I really need to go back and play Prey. You're quickly one of my new favorite TH-camrs just because you bring up all these games people might not of closely looked at. Cheers mate, keep doing what you're doing!
Finished it, loved it, had a blast even after getting distracted by other games and coming back to Mooncrash to fall in love again. I love how the game was this ginormous, constantly evolving puzzle that kept shifting slightly after every run. Where sometimes you'd be all "I know where that is, I got this" and you get there and go "Oh. I didn't realize the place is on fire. WELP", or when you realize that certain items always spawn in the same place, allowing you so rush them for some guaranteed progress, etc. I also LOVE how every time you've JUST gotten used to the difficulty, the game cranks it up a notch and goes "Oh yeah, now some places in the base might not have oxygen. Also, Nightmares will spawn once in a while now, have fun with that!" I do have to say, though, I feel like I got supremely lucky with my final escape. I happened to complete The Director's story objective last and was like "What? That's it? That's the whole story objecti-....Ohhhh, this would have been REALLY useful to know a few hours ago!", then took a look at the sim, realized that the base was actually pretty low on hazards and that my corruption meter was still low, and decided to just bum rush the final escape, and aside from one single close call, I managed to pull it off perfectly basically on the fly with the knowledge I'd amassed. I do feel like you overstate the danger of the central crater by the end, though. With the propulsion jet (mandatory purchase for all characters after the first!), and the chipset that makes you hover faster with it, I was able to zip through the crater in minutes, and then bypass the typhon doors with a neat little trick. It was pretty dangerous during my last 2 characters, but that fun little trick I learned from the Director's story mission allowed me to deal with it with relative ease. There are a LOT of ways to "gotta go fast" the escapes relatively safely. Really though, I just want to see more games like this. Immersive sims in general, yes, but also immersive sims that feel like you're picking apart this giant puzzle, and where if you fail, the puzzle adjusts, throwing you for a loop on your next attempt. It's damn good, and I'm happy I picked this DLC up on day 1.
*Spoiler comment* DUDE I have one more Kazma order to fulfill (get all 5 peeps to escape pods or escape). Getting to that point was so much fun. I loved the story-line. Just buy this DLC whoever you are!
Awwww maaaaaaan, I'm nearing the end of my first playthrough of Prey and it's one of the best games i've ever played. It's just brilliantly designed. I can't wait to play Mooncrash.
Damn, son! I'm a massive fan of Prey and Arkane in general (the Dishonored franchise might just be my favourite of all time) but I've yet to get this - purely cos I'm in the midst of a Horizon Zero Dawn play through - but by god, this is so on my PLAY RIGHT NOW list. Wanna get it now within month one so it at least reflects positively for sales figures and therefore more Prey and - hopefully - more Dishonored. You've just gone and sealed the deal!
Just a tip: Spend your points on Delay Loop.Time (once you've found the blueprint, of course) and you really don't have to worry about the Corruption Level all that much. I escaped with all 5 characters in one run and the Corruption Level never got to 2. ;)
THERE'S A BLUEPRINT FOR THE DELAY ITEM!?!?! AHAHAHAHAHAH **Cries and laughs at the same time** ...Not that I needed it for my final run, I got basically the perfect setup for the moonbase, and popping the Typhon towers on the before last run, which let me basically get to the end before I even hit Corruption 5. And I wasn't even planning for the run to be my last big one. I was doing a story objective before, taking my time, and was just like "oh......I think I have time to get everyone out. Huh."
He calls it an evolution of the immersive sim genre but really it's just a roguelike with some immersive elements. A shame because I love immersive sims but have never played a roguelike I enjoyed.
Nah, the station is always the same. The situation changes on the station as the station goes bad. It makes quite a bit of sense. It's not random tilesets of generated rooms, its random loot, enemies, and hazards. It even gives the sim inside a sim plot point to dissolve the 4th wall that goes up when your characters repeatedly die. It's an immersive sim with roguelike elements. The soul of the DLC is very much Prey.
Thanks for the video. Ive Just finished Prey and that was a damn good surprise for me. I feel like compelled to extend the experience with mooncrash and your video was just what I needed to make my decision.
Bought this game because of you and love it. Feels like every game critic on youtube loves to shit on the industry and never makes a postive video. Thanks and subscribed.
I feel the same way. I think if they hate a company.. man they trash the hell out of it. Or never talk about a game which the company made. This is a good game. They just fail to realize the same
...aaaaand I just finished Prey. Gonna dig into the DLC now. I really, really hope we get a sequel that irons out some of the tiny problems the original game has. One of my favorite gaming experiences of the past 10 years for sure. Bless you, Arcane.
That is why we love your videos skillup! You cover games that are underrated good! My only gripes is that you haven't given Divinity Original Sin 2 a chance. Based on how I see your taste in games, you'll obsessively love it.
soulgazer014 Yeah, he mentioned that in his Tower of Time review. But he said he haven't got hooked in the game because of it's text-heavy way of narrative (paraphrasing) which is fully voice-acted btw. I just think that when he actually give it some more chance, he'll love it especially the combat.
I have laboriously explored the entire map now for the last two weeks and I am STILL finding new amazing details everywhere I look. Mooncrash is so deep and so engaging it literally is the perfect Rogue like game and one of my favorite games of all time.
Well, I'm playing through Prey right now for the first time. I love it, what absolute gem. I have Mooncrash as well, so I'm excited to check it out. Videos like yours are the reason I even played Prey to begin with.
I absolutely loved Prey. It was my favorite game of 2017 and I've 100%-ed it twice, but I have close to zero interest in this DLC. The roguelite mode just does not appeal to me. Prey just isn't the type of game I want to do "runs" in, especially if there is a timer. More power to everyone that loves it, but I'm pretty sure this isn't for me, which is sad because before I knew it was roguelite I was more hyped for this DLC than for any actual game releasing in 2018.
Dude. Play the DLC its absolutely worth it. Ive 100% prey multiple times and replayed it multiple times being both good and evil. The DLC is really great, hands down some of the best DLC ive ever played.
GiggleBeard nightfish is right. Mooncrash is garbage because time limits in prey are a big no no. Hands down the worst dlc I've ever played. Any fun is sucked away by the game itself. Layer 5 specifically ruins the game on top of layer 3.
That ended up being a failure despite massive unconventional promotion being on Store home page for half a year for no reason, since barely anyone is playing it.
Just discovered this channel last night and I gotta say. This has to be one of the best channels I've found on youtube. Finding TH-camrs that just shit on games are awful. I love the constructive criticisms you have and I'll now be buying this dlc and trying Warframe.
Another neat part of Mooncrash is that the same type of loot respawns in the same location every time. This way you really get to know you way around the base, and you know where to go to find the things you need. Although Prey revisits areas, you mostly just run through them, and for that reason you don't feel at home or engaged in the same way that Mooncrash manages to pull it off.
I went through the original game several times, each time with different builds, and thoroughly enjoyed all of it. I played and finished the DLC, and was only having fun on my first three or so runs, then it became a chore, and random elements were just not good enough to keep things fresh IMO. And since you have to finish the run with every character at least twice, that means that 7 runs out of 10 I was NOT having fun, but was just going through paces to finish the damn thing. The concept may be neat, but it overstays its welcome way too much.
Yeah, I think people think WAY too highly of procedural generation as enough of a mechanic to provide variation. In reality you basically get a lot of the same stuff happening, with only minor details changing. I wouldn't call locking or unlocking a door a good enough variation for truly longterm replayability. The reason why in games like Binding of Isaac Afterbirth it works, has to do with a lot of the variation and change being with the character you play, the items you get and the way it influences gameplay directly. Prey has too little of that. By the time you've played each character in Mooncrash, the freshness of variety is pretty much gone. And not every character is equally fun to play, whereas Binding of Isaac allows you to effectively CHANGE your run, mid-run by picking up and using items. I would like to see games use that game design concept more.
Nah, Mooncrash replayability is way better, in original game you will end up always as a jack of all trades, but here you are limited by time and class system. Plus, you still can and should explore Moonbase, but you will have to do right calls on right characters to do so.
Personally my only major issue with the DLC is that they introduced a lot of cool ideas that didn't show up or get incorporated into the main game at all like repairing broken doorways, having turrets be repair by operator among other things. Everything else, i feel is minor in comparison considering how this DLC was probably a small prototype of things to come.
@@trashman8080 They promised a lot of randomisation, and it would be fine if there indeed was. The problem I have with it is that the things that are random are mostly inconsequential and don't provide as much difference as the developers would like you to believe.
You sir is simply the best reviewer around! Soon as I saw this I bought prey with this dlc. Been here since the division days, then warframe. Played and adored Nier because of you and fell out of love with Destiny. When you endorse a game with such enthusiasm I see that as very high praise indeed. Keep up the superb work my man
Maybe he didn't want to call it a 'review' because it doesn't cover all the areas that a review typically covers. That said, it is a very informational video and probably was/is more informative than most other reviews on this DLC. Personally, I really liked the format he used on this one
This DLC was fun, but I smashed through it in about 2 hours. I escaped with all 5 before finishing the story missions, then when I finished that last story mission. It locked me out =/
Watching in 2023. Finally got around to playing through Prey 2017. Absolutely brilliant game! The successor to System Shock 2 I didn't realize it was at the time. Now for Mooncrash :)
Bought it on your recommendation. It's frustrating how really solid games like Deus Ex: MD and Prey get overlooked for the same-old same-old yearly releases. Can't wait to try it out, an immersive sim-roguelite sounds really intriguing.
Now, I haven't played Mooncrash since I beat it (when it was brand new), but... you said there's about ten different escape routes. I only actually remember there being five. Am I remembering something wrong? Spoilers ahead: Mass driver cargo container, piloted escape shuttle, escape pod, mimic portal and uploading your consciousness. Right?
Anybody else ever notice the pistol in this game functions like a streamlined German Luger? Considering the luger was one of the only pistols to function like that I always thought that was a nice touch to the game. It kind of gave it a unique retro vibe while also being futuristic.
Imagine if they made a whole game with this concept but with multiple scenarios and maybe even a level editor that lets people create their own scenarios and level design
Looking for a quick assessment of Prey dlc and found your channel for the first time. Nice and positive but also broke down the reasons why it is good in a succinct and interesting way too. 1 more brand new sub, maybe a year late but here I am lol!
The more i watch your review the more feels like you're talking about a different game instead of the one i played. Disclaimer, i loved Prey, but i found mooncrash a tedious experience at best: 1) Credits: I have no idea of what you're saying about managing your funds, the game litterally showers you with them, making you able to unlock an huge chunk of upgrades (all the useful ones for sure like hacking and inventory expansions) in 3-4 runs max by just buying neuromods at the start of every run. 2) Roguelike mechanics: Those are EXTREMELY restrictive. Since every chara has specializations you are forced to play every run in a specific order to grant more choices for the next chara, the engineer is the only one that can hack areas so 99.9% of the times you HAVE to start with her if you want access to some areas with the other chara, which often is a must if you want to be able to escape with everyone, since every escape can only be used once, plus as you said she can take down the shark pretty easily removing him for the others too... 3) "A to B": Ye there is no A to B decision, there is only A: engineer does all the job by opening up varius areas and locating all the escape routes AND B: make all the others escape and don't worry about the loot since after some runs you can pretty much stock up billions of ammo, medpacks, armor and psy boosters at the beginning of the area due your infinite budget. So ye, tedious at best. This is just my opinion and respect the fact that you love it so much, as i said at the beginning it feels like we played 2 different games...
The main game was great, but this DLC just isn't for me. I hate the fact that there's a "time limit" with the corruption levels. I like to take my time and explore everything, and that's just not possible in this DLC. I wish I didn't buy this.
Around 16:30 you talk about considering whether u save meta points for ur next run or not , but when you bring up rouge lite or procedural generation. Every one I've played and that is really alot, they make you spend the in game meta progression points each time after you die before u come alive because saving up points was to op the dev's always say allowing u 2 unlock everything quicker... still looks like great dlc
Just got Prey and I'm going to pick this up when I'm done with the base game. I can't believe I never heard of this game. It's so under-reported and underrated, it's criminal. Best sim I have ever played.
How could you miss mentioning the fact that the runs get more and more dangerous each time you accomplish the KASMA orders? Makes the game irritating af while I'm more interested in the story.
You make it seem like Mooncrash is the best game ever. I dunno, I thought it's great for like 5 hours, and then I was bored out of my mind. It's even more repetitive and stale than base game. It retains every single issue with base game. Procedural generation doesn't make walkthroughs feel different, sure it makes them technically BE different, but they feel identical. And changes that you get from progressing the plot aren't any substantial either, they become annoyances real real fast. Progression pushes player from what made Prey good into what made Prey bad. Overall it just good, but not that good to tell people about it, because they probably won't enjoy it as much as you do and you know exactly why. It's that game that even if it's really fun for you - chances are people won't like it.
I gave Mooncrash a chance, because the first time I didn't understand it and found it very difficult. And today returning to DLC and understanding it and focusing and finalizing it, OMG, Mooncrash is just brilliant and an underrated work of art! Your video is great because it recognizes all the good points etc. behind this MAGNIFICENT DLC!
nobody is talking about, because Bethesda is the middle of a downfall. And whatever this DLC brings its completely destroyed with whatever else Bethesda is doing.
Oh Man come on , people dont care about the fact that this game is published by bethesda, look at the success of doom and the excitement on doom eternal, its Just the lack of interest for immersive sim that is causing this Which is a shame by the way
@@fatalmokrane sure they dont, which is exactly why this video exists. Since this DLC was completely ignored just like the base game itself was. Goes to show you, when you fuck up, even the few stuff you or your sub studios do good will end up getting effected. Doom will sell, but not because of Bethesda, because the game has remained on the same studio since the first Doom in the 90's ID Software. But even then, we are yet to know if Doom will be released on Bethesda's own platform. So it could fail not because of the game itself, but because of the annoying stuff coming with it.
@John Marston Thanks for your reply. I played through a good amount of the demo. didn't unlock (find) any Circuits, Scopes, or suit mods. Only 3 neuromods. It seems Extremely clever and unique in its game system mechanics and sense of Agency. Something I've had an itch for.
Bought Prey on a summer sale off steam for about $25. I started playing it over my December work break. Can not put the thing down. I want to explore every nook and cranny. 36 hours into the game and I think I am only 1/2 through. I keep backtracking looking for things I missed. I loved it so much I bought mooncrash during the winter sale.
Haven't played much Mooncrash yet, but one thing is really cool. It essentially also makes player to test those mimic skills too. Meaning I always play the games as "good guy" as let's face it, it's generally speaking the only so-to-say good ending method. Now I'm usually getting enough of the game in first playthrough and I might re-try game for hour or two with "bad guy", but I can't recall game I've bothered to complete again fully. Moncrash cleverly throws those skills for us "good guys" apparently. Also character classes is great thing as it forces to use those other skills you likely haven't focused in main game. Brilliant idea!
Rewatching this review in 2020, I'm struck by how much I see of Mooncrash in the forthcoming Deathloop, which is a Dishonored-like immersive action sim about experimenting and planning until you can execute the perfect time loop in which you assassinate all of your targets in one go. I think your prediction that Arkane would build on this design was spot on.
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Skill Up I have to ask you how long would you recommend playing a game like Prey before sitting firm in an opinion of it? I've played the demo and didn't much care for it yet I respect and value your opinion . I have had it happen where I've played a game and my first opinion changed due to later events in the game . What say you on this about Prey?
I think the demo would give you the measure of it. If the setting and initial systems didn't appeal, later hours probably won't change your mind.
Hey, just a small note: in the video you mentioned you're gonna link the Prey review in the description but the description contains all reviews but Prey.
Skill Up while I did enjoy this version of prey I still want the bounty hunter prey that was supposed to be made. That said, you compared this dlc to my favorite game genre, deus ex, dishonored, splinter cell, etc. I watched the trailer and i'm..unsure. I had fun with prey and wanted to start over to go full alien but I just couldn't find the motivation to do it. That's why I'm conflicted about trying this dlc.
it is a great dlc and was fun to explore as a cup again
No one is talking about it because Bethesda did zero marketing (outside of just announcing it). I didn't even know this DLC existed until today and I keep myself fairly up to date on games I like (and I loved Prey).
Jakc LLAWSON Hopefully people download it em masses on gamepass after the deal Xbox is offering people to upgrade to ultimate
Thanks for the info guys and girls. Buying DLC tonight!
Right lol. I didn’t even know there was any dlc whatsoever
I wanna give you a like, but the count is now so devilishly beautiful, that I just can't 🤣
I bought it tonight through gamepass literally knew nothing about it lol really needed more Prey though and this looks great
No one is talking about it because right now in the gaming world hate is the only thing selling like crazy. I can't find analysis videos on these upcoming titles anymore, just "this games biggest problem" or "is this game dead? Heres why". My excitement for games is being compartmentalized and I got nowhere to turn to feel excited.
Matthew Reed You are so right. I'm not going to name names but based on you comment I know who you are talking about. There are 4-5 negative youtubers who get hundreds of thousand views every video complaining about almost every publisher and new games. Negativity and cynism sell views.
Earlier this year, I had to do a double take on my YT recommended because it was legit FILLED with click baity gloom and doom game "reviews," and it made me wanna quit playing video games. I'm soooooo glad I found Yong and Skillup (and the Gaymen laying over yonder) because this group of gamers was the refresher I needed to get excited about games again (ACG has been a constant for me thank God). Im hoping I get a rotation of game news so I can get a lot of different perspectives for full information.
Oscar Nava Yong yea? 95% of the videos he makes are about the negatives going on in the gaming world. Just contradicts what you first said lol.
David Stadler Skillup and laymen gaming do the same thing too. Idk, personally I feel that this group of reviewers manage to highlight the pros and cons with an enthusiasm for games that's felt missing in the other channels I was watching. They criticize and highlight the negatives because they really do care and not so much just for the views. Just my opinion
Quit being a baby and grow up.The fact remains that AAA gaming is in the shitters.For every god of war,we get two crappy games from EA or Activision.People who care about their hobby ,can't just shut up and nod along to bullshit
What's hilarious is that this review video showed me that the mule's inventory carried over between characters... I just never used it. I just stashed supplies everywhere like some kind of overachieving crackhead squirrel.
If only that was in the base game
When doing no neuromod play throughs, running back between Morgan's office to grab shit from the safe was excruciating
If u were my pet squirrel. I’d name you “cracky”.
Goddamn squirrels!!!!
Might be the best comment Ive ever read on youtube, Thanks for the material
Lol nice description
Today I bought the deluxe edition on steam, was on sale. $7,50 USD.
good buy
@MatchaLatte It's like getting a big brick of gold for the same price, it's a fucking steal man!
God damn you basically owe them money
Looks like Arkane is going to build on the iterative "looping" mechanic present in Mooncrash with their upcoming game "Deathloop". Can't wait!
Ah that game is Arkane's? No wonder the trailer appealed to me. Years of googling "immersive sim roguelike" and finally we here.
That no one will buy. Mooncrash sold 1/10th the copies of base Prey.
@@trblemayker5157 Yeah but pretty much exclusivly because they didnt market it in any way. Hell even the base game was undermarketed and they made the stupid decision to call it Prey instead of something like Neuroshock, just because they wanted to use an already existing IP.
Because of that dumb decision lots of uninformed press and consumers just flocked it for being "too boring" and "clunky", because they thought Prey was supposed to be a horror first person shooter, instead of understand it on the merits of it being a immersive sim.
All these stupid decisions are because of Bethesda Softworks, the publishing company that owns Arkane Studios.
Now that Microsoft bought Zenimax Online, who own Bethesda Softworks, Microsoft will make sure to not be stupid enough to undermarket Arkanes new game.
@@_--_--_ Well, they better release them on PC too and not just the box. I figured they would claim the rights to have some nice games for the Xbox lineup, but this isn't happening just yet. I am a PlayStation, Nintendo and PC guy, Xbox never interested me because it never had any games to play. As in exclusives. But one exclusive won't make me buy the console, however. This DLC was one of the best things that happened to both sim-like and rouge-like genres. And PREY itself was fantastic. They sticked the name because they didn't know what to do with the IP anymore. They bought the license to it, but never got around on making the game. So this was PREY, and to be honest, this was the better PREY we got before that. FAR better. Nothing beats space horror simulation with Synthwave music.
@@IgnemAeternum Ngl I'd read this comment but I can't because every time I tap the "read more", it takes me to the other guy's channel because of how long his name is.
I'm sold. Prey was one of my favorite games last year, but the E3 presentation made it sound like this was going to be just a bunch of challenge rooms, which really aren't usually my thing. But this sounds incredible. Thanks for bringing attention to this criminally underlooked game!
Ben McLemore same here, they 100% misrepresented this, which is rare, it sounds like a new game, not dlc. They shouldn't have called it DLC, because it's not what DLC traditionally is.
Nah, it's crap. If you love Prey, this will likely be a huge disappointment, especially at $20.
palarious you clearly don't have the Braincells to play this game, I suggest you stick to your loot boxes and simple gameplay that your two Braincells Can handle.
I've played the entire DLC. I loved the actual game. This takes the Prey mantle and bastardizes it.
Since we're apparently stooping to ad hominems, try using a couple of your brain cells to reacquaint yourself with grammatical concepts like capitalization.
Dude, like half of your paragraph is garbled nonsense. Get a hold of yourself, buddy.
"YOU'RE BORING!!!" hahaha that killed me.
Prey is, by far, one of the most underrated games of ALL TIME. It was killed by stupid fanboy's nostalgia of the previous series.
And fact that it was bethesda Killed Prey 2 at first place
They didn't even want to call it Prey, Bethesda forced them to
There was a game before this one?
@@g-saviour6581 yes, long story
@@g-saviour6581 yes
"I SWEAR TO GOD BRO"...that's the only thing missing from your intro.
Hunt: Showdown has some great recent updates also.
Unfortunately the modern gaming audience gets more time out of talking about things they hate/controversies than they do talking about what they enjoy.
I defintely experience this in my comments section. If you aren't following this trend, you are a paid sell out :/
Skill Up thank Yongyea, Fresh prince, downward thrust, and a bunch of other YTers. Shit on games with sometimes valid points but completely overlook great titles that could be helped by being given attention for the good they do.
Agreed.
Rick Tejeda i agree but what choice do we have when publishers want to say and get away with a bunch of bullshit excuses and skumy business decisions like lootbox-based progression systems?
miguel cobarrubias They could not just cherry pick controversial games to get views. I’m all for informing gamers of bad games and devs but they need to balance that content with videos like this, gameplay, etc. Give me some positive with the negative. When they just shit on games in every video, games that are being shit on by everyone else already, it’s obvious they are just doing it for monetization. It’s easy to complain in videos on TH-cam and viewers eat up controversy and love to get outraged.
finally someone agrees! i loved this, but it seemed like no one cared it existed.
i actually put in like 14 hours over one week, and finished the whole story
There’s a secret Prey fan club if you want in dude ☺️
Tj Beach Thank god they didn't. fuck the new prey
Giggling Stoner What is so bad about it? Is it that it's nothing like its older counterpart?
It's what we lost to get ti, that's what.
I do love how this DLC feels a lot more like an Dungeon Crawler experience, with different colored weapon that showcases what damage does it do or what effects it has. It’s pretty damn good
I'm so happy you made this vid! I had NO idea Prey had DLC released! I'm now sitting here waiting for it to finish downloading! Thank you so much for making this vid
Phantom3209 so how was it?
Verdict?
Yeah, answer, fucker! How much did it cost? I still wanna get it, tomorrow... Just wondering.
Phantom3209 been waiting for your response/review so that I can buy it myself...
Hello?!!!!
I actually just played it and beat it a few days ago. I concur with this review, immensely. Go try it.
Man, if only more game got a quality DLC instead of a cash grab *cough COD cough*
Tyler Durden no I still will.
To be profitable, you need to provide a servicable product that the market has not seen yet. Most cash grabs latch on to what's popular, hopping from one to the other. No innovation. They have no creative drive. Instead of commenting just to comment, you should think through your ideas a little more, fam.
Depending on the cod though. I dont mind paying 8€ for a good zombies map on black ops that has an interesting story and unique features
Ya'll people need more iron sight in your lives.
Hey long time no see dude
Kinda wish there was a big multiplayer gane like this where four or five people need to work together to escape.
That would've been a dope addition
Im pretty sure Redfall is gonna be just that
@@kondratov8269 this comment aged well unfortunately......
@@benturner3458game looked sketchy since the first trailer, sadly
Thanks for spotlighting something that was being ignored but deserves attention. Its so easy to just go with the crowd and play the same things as everyone else. I own Prey but didnt know anything about the DLC.....ill definitely check it out now.
Youre doing the art form a great service.
As always you did an amazing job reviewing the game. Love how detailed you are compared to others. Thank you SkillUp
I hated Mooncrash but kept playing. Many of rage quits. But something magical happened. I figured out how the game works and fell deeply in love. Such an amazing and challanging game. It is addicting and unique.
Yo me too! I loved the base game immediately but this one took some time, and almost quit. Then I discovered how OP the volunteer was and how useful the mule operator, and it opened the flood gates! Fifty-five hours later….😂
Just finished Prey and you're right it is one of the absolutely best games out there. For those saying it's boring obviously do not know what it takes to be a great game.
Great video. Happy you're spreading the word. Prey and Arkane deserve so much more love than they're getting.
This is what happens when Sam goes on holiday. We miss out on the hard hitting games.
Prey: the masterpiece you (probably) won't play.
Nope i will not play looks boring
Dude, it is so fun, you’re missing out.
You're right, I won't. I don't like 'beat the clock' games.
Gaming is supposed to be something to help you relax after work, not to where you're pulling your hair out.
BenieTheDragon you can’t define gaming like that my dude
except i played System Shock and Bioshock and Dishonored so i've already played better versions of Prey :\ sorry. game was a dissappointment the moment they slapped the name Prey on it.
I actually didn't get sucked into prey when it first came out, I think because of the uniqueness of the enemy design. But after playing it later it reminded me of being 15 and playing half-life when it first came out and being blown away. Its awesome.
I bought this dlc because of this video and having just finished it I've got to say it's bloody brilliant. Thanks.
Bit of an advice: Once you unlock the Engineer, use her as your first character on each run! Maxing out her Repair skills while bringing some Recycler Charges to clear out radioactive hazards is VITAL for a clean run with the rest of the characters. The game tells you that she's not a good character for direct confrontation but it's honestly my fav character.
To sum up, use Joan as much as you can during the first run: go through ALL areas and fix everything you can (doors, junctions, etc), and you'll have a well-balanced fighter who's clearing the path for all others.
When I played I’d either use her or the hacker first. And later on I’d use the Engineer last after I’d used all the other characters to gather everything on the map so I could have her recycle them with her as she has that neuromod that makes recycling a little more efficient and I’d try to get a few more neuromods that way. I also learned that if you buy a ton of grenades, and dismantle them all you get a lot of spare parts. After that you can shoot a control module and have it explode, then repair it which will give you a net profit of sim points if you’re feeling cheeky. I did this on level 5 to get a huge surplus of points to level up my characters and run through the map just destroying everything. Even when you’re cheesing the game it still feels satisfying - you’re reaping the rewards of your knowledge and that little progress you have between runs. You do one run to prepare for the next and you learn from what you saw in the previous one. I’m too tired to say this in a way that makes much sense, but mooncrash was a very fun experience. Feel like I should replay it soon honestly.
Whoa, I didn't think of using recycler charges to clear the radioactive stuff!
@@flipsolo That was interesting comment indeed. Never though that was possible. That's flaw of many games though. They hold your hand and tell exactly what you can do. Some leave things for player to discover and some hint, but there lies the problem. Many to player seemingly trivial problem solving things just aren't there and then player gets bored to try things, assuming there aren't even many clever mechanics in the game. It's like I'm mechanic and there's tons off electronically locked doors. I've never seen door magnetic locks retain their locking position in case of power loss. But in games things virtually never work like this. Usually it's the exact opposite, power up and you can unlock door etc.
Damn, I really need to go back and play Prey. You're quickly one of my new favorite TH-camrs just because you bring up all these games people might not of closely looked at. Cheers mate, keep doing what you're doing!
Finished it, loved it, had a blast even after getting distracted by other games and coming back to Mooncrash to fall in love again.
I love how the game was this ginormous, constantly evolving puzzle that kept shifting slightly after every run. Where sometimes you'd be all "I know where that is, I got this" and you get there and go "Oh. I didn't realize the place is on fire. WELP", or when you realize that certain items always spawn in the same place, allowing you so rush them for some guaranteed progress, etc. I also LOVE how every time you've JUST gotten used to the difficulty, the game cranks it up a notch and goes "Oh yeah, now some places in the base might not have oxygen. Also, Nightmares will spawn once in a while now, have fun with that!"
I do have to say, though, I feel like I got supremely lucky with my final escape. I happened to complete The Director's story objective last and was like "What? That's it? That's the whole story objecti-....Ohhhh, this would have been REALLY useful to know a few hours ago!", then took a look at the sim, realized that the base was actually pretty low on hazards and that my corruption meter was still low, and decided to just bum rush the final escape, and aside from one single close call, I managed to pull it off perfectly basically on the fly with the knowledge I'd amassed.
I do feel like you overstate the danger of the central crater by the end, though. With the propulsion jet (mandatory purchase for all characters after the first!), and the chipset that makes you hover faster with it, I was able to zip through the crater in minutes, and then bypass the typhon doors with a neat little trick. It was pretty dangerous during my last 2 characters, but that fun little trick I learned from the Director's story mission allowed me to deal with it with relative ease. There are a LOT of ways to "gotta go fast" the escapes relatively safely.
Really though, I just want to see more games like this. Immersive sims in general, yes, but also immersive sims that feel like you're picking apart this giant puzzle, and where if you fail, the puzzle adjusts, throwing you for a loop on your next attempt. It's damn good, and I'm happy I picked this DLC up on day 1.
here after the Deathloop review
Him wanting future games to adopt this unique design aged so so well
Albeit its from arkane themselves lmao, good on them tho. Revolutionizing immersive sims
*Spoiler comment*
DUDE I have one more Kazma order to fulfill (get all 5 peeps to escape pods or escape). Getting to that point was so much fun. I loved the story-line. Just buy this DLC whoever you are!
Awwww maaaaaaan, I'm nearing the end of my first playthrough of Prey and it's one of the best games i've ever played. It's just brilliantly designed. I can't wait to play Mooncrash.
Damn, son! I'm a massive fan of Prey and Arkane in general (the Dishonored franchise might just be my favourite of all time) but I've yet to get this - purely cos I'm in the midst of a Horizon Zero Dawn play through - but by god, this is so on my PLAY RIGHT NOW list. Wanna get it now within month one so it at least reflects positively for sales figures and therefore more Prey and - hopefully - more Dishonored. You've just gone and sealed the deal!
Just a tip: Spend your points on Delay Loop.Time (once you've found the blueprint, of course) and you really don't have to worry about the Corruption Level all that much. I escaped with all 5 characters in one run and the Corruption Level never got to 2. ;)
THERE'S A BLUEPRINT FOR THE DELAY ITEM!?!?! AHAHAHAHAHAH **Cries and laughs at the same time**
...Not that I needed it for my final run, I got basically the perfect setup for the moonbase, and popping the Typhon towers on the before last run, which let me basically get to the end before I even hit Corruption 5. And I wasn't even planning for the run to be my last big one. I was doing a story objective before, taking my time, and was just like "oh......I think I have time to get everyone out. Huh."
buying in prep patched out
This and dying light the following have been my favorite dlcs of all time
😀
1:48 a disappointing story conclusion?
seriously, that ending was AWESOME, and one of the best executed of its kind, ever.
Who came here after the Deathloop review?
Wow you legit predicted deathloop
He calls it an evolution of the immersive sim genre but really it's just a roguelike with some immersive elements. A shame because I love immersive sims but have never played a roguelike I enjoyed.
Nah, the station is always the same. The situation changes on the station as the station goes bad. It makes quite a bit of sense. It's not random tilesets of generated rooms, its random loot, enemies, and hazards.
It even gives the sim inside a sim plot point to dissolve the 4th wall that goes up when your characters repeatedly die. It's an immersive sim with roguelike elements. The soul of the DLC is very much Prey.
Thanks for the video. Ive Just finished Prey and that was a damn good surprise for me. I feel like compelled to extend the experience with mooncrash and your video was just what I needed to make my decision.
Oh the friendly mimic. I always had him equipped with the top hat. He was my best friend on pathos
Hey Ralph, big fan. Love the way your presentations are put together. I still have Prey. Im going to check this out i think. Cheers
Bought this game because of you and love it. Feels like every game critic on youtube loves to shit on the industry and never makes a postive video. Thanks and subscribed.
I feel the same way. I think if they hate a company.. man they trash the hell out of it. Or never talk about a game which the company made. This is a good game. They just fail to realize the same
...aaaaand I just finished Prey. Gonna dig into the DLC now. I really, really hope we get a sequel that irons out some of the tiny problems the original game has. One of my favorite gaming experiences of the past 10 years for sure. Bless you, Arcane.
I bought the DLC after watching you video, thanks!
Enjoyed the hell out of the original game :) And the ending didn't disappoint me btw :)
Haha he predicted deathloop😂😂
That is why we love your videos skillup! You cover games that are underrated good! My only gripes is that you haven't given Divinity Original Sin 2 a chance. Based on how I see your taste in games, you'll obsessively love it.
Robert Grenas He’s mentioned before that he’s tried Divinity 2 but doesn’t have the time for a super long isometric RPG.
soulgazer014 Yeah, he mentioned that in his Tower of Time review. But he said he haven't got hooked in the game because of it's text-heavy way of narrative (paraphrasing) which is fully voice-acted btw. I just think that when he actually give it some more chance, he'll love it especially the combat.
Robert Grenas
Well, to be honest it IS a fantastic game but it’s super-length stops most from enjoying it.
I have laboriously explored the entire map now for the last two weeks and I am STILL finding new amazing details everywhere I look.
Mooncrash is so deep and so engaging it literally is the perfect Rogue like game and one of my favorite games of all time.
Well, I'm playing through Prey right now for the first time. I love it, what absolute gem. I have Mooncrash as well, so I'm excited to check it out.
Videos like yours are the reason I even played Prey to begin with.
I absolutely loved Prey. It was my favorite game of 2017 and I've 100%-ed it twice, but I have close to zero interest in this DLC. The roguelite mode just does not appeal to me. Prey just isn't the type of game I want to do "runs" in, especially if there is a timer.
More power to everyone that loves it, but I'm pretty sure this isn't for me, which is sad because before I knew it was roguelite I was more hyped for this DLC than for any actual game releasing in 2018.
Trust me Mooncrash Has the same pros of prey but it is better imo
Dude. Play the DLC its absolutely worth it.
Ive 100% prey multiple times and replayed it multiple times being both good and evil. The DLC is really great, hands down some of the best DLC ive ever played.
GiggleBeard nightfish is right. Mooncrash is garbage because time limits in prey are a big no no. Hands down the worst dlc I've ever played.
Any fun is sucked away by the game itself. Layer 5 specifically ruins the game on top of layer 3.
@@shelceygusek427 How did you get 5 idiots to like your comment? You're not even a good troll.
@@OrangeBox93 how? Because it's not trolling when it's true. 5 people are smart enough to know this. Sad you are not.
Great review bud, every word a true one, this game is so underated, and this DLC, well, mind blown! Cannot put it down, first class.
It took me like 3 seconds in until I paused it and bought it, lol.
You were right about it being an inspiration for future titles, DeathLoop seems to take a lot of ideas from Mooncrash. Can't wait to play it!
Arkane inspired themselves lol
That ended up being a failure despite massive unconventional promotion being on Store home page for half a year for no reason, since barely anyone is playing it.
Btw... u fkn rock as a reviewer and anchor man, good to have good ppl around here.
Just discovered this channel last night and I gotta say. This has to be one of the best channels I've found on youtube. Finding TH-camrs that just shit on games are awful. I love the constructive criticisms you have and I'll now be buying this dlc and trying Warframe.
Another neat part of Mooncrash is that the same type of loot respawns in the same location every time. This way you really get to know you way around the base, and you know where to go to find the things you need. Although Prey revisits areas, you mostly just run through them, and for that reason you don't feel at home or engaged in the same way that Mooncrash manages to pull it off.
I went through the original game several times, each time with different builds, and thoroughly enjoyed all of it.
I played and finished the DLC, and was only having fun on my first three or so runs, then it became a chore, and random elements were just not good enough to keep things fresh IMO. And since you have to finish the run with every character at least twice, that means that 7 runs out of 10 I was NOT having fun, but was just going through paces to finish the damn thing.
The concept may be neat, but it overstays its welcome way too much.
Yeah, I think people think WAY too highly of procedural generation as enough of a mechanic to provide variation. In reality you basically get a lot of the same stuff happening, with only minor details changing. I wouldn't call locking or unlocking a door a good enough variation for truly longterm replayability. The reason why in games like Binding of Isaac Afterbirth it works, has to do with a lot of the variation and change being with the character you play, the items you get and the way it influences gameplay directly. Prey has too little of that. By the time you've played each character in Mooncrash, the freshness of variety is pretty much gone. And not every character is equally fun to play, whereas Binding of Isaac allows you to effectively CHANGE your run, mid-run by picking up and using items. I would like to see games use that game design concept more.
Nah, Mooncrash replayability is way better, in original game you will end up always as a jack of all trades, but here you are limited by time and class system. Plus, you still can and should explore Moonbase, but you will have to do right calls on right characters to do so.
Personally my only major issue with the DLC is that they introduced a lot of cool ideas that didn't show up or get incorporated into the main game at all like repairing broken doorways, having turrets be repair by operator among other things. Everything else, i feel is minor in comparison considering how this DLC was probably a small prototype of things to come.
It really depends on whether you like rougelites or not. I can see why people like the dlc, but i personally dont.
@@trashman8080 They promised a lot of randomisation, and it would be fine if there indeed was. The problem I have with it is that the things that are random are mostly inconsequential and don't provide as much difference as the developers would like you to believe.
Awesome video! I had PREY on my wishlist for a while but ended up deleting in, now I’m going to watch for a sale and get this. Thanks for the review!
the moment i realized that the distruptor and emps can disable the typhon gates is the moment everything clicked.
You sir is simply the best reviewer around! Soon as I saw this I bought prey with this dlc. Been here since the division days, then warframe. Played and adored Nier because of you and fell out of love with Destiny. When you endorse a game with such enthusiasm I see that as very high praise indeed. Keep up the superb work my man
I second that.
"Disappointing story conclusion"
You may have missed the big twist...
I dunno man. I cared about the people on Talos 1, I saved everyone I could, but then boom, it's all fake, it was never real.
My reaction as well. Ending was mind blowing.
Just wanted to say, this video is the reason I bought Prey & Mooncrash. Thanks Skillup!
Cool fact. raph was the music composer for few of the musics in dlc. And He was the former founder of arkane studio for 18 years. Also a cool dude
No "The Review" in the title? Only 16 minutes long?....It's just not the same....
Lemifan what do you mean?
Maybe he didn't want to call it a 'review' because it doesn't cover all the areas that a review typically covers. That said, it is a very informational video and probably was/is more informative than most other reviews on this DLC.
Personally, I really liked the format he used on this one
Just started prey again in 2024 and you wouldn’t know this game is 7 years old, it’s incredible
Sir that is one heck of a eclectic vocabulary you have. New subscriber will be giving Prey a shot; thanks to you 👍🏻
What makes Prey a sim? When I played it, it felt very gamey
"immersive sim". It's a genre. Deus ex, Bioshock, system shock, Dishonored, etc.
What's wrong with that?
@@randomguy6679 He is thinking about stuff like Simulator games. That's what confused him.
@@ProbyWaN1337 The Stalker games too.
@@ProbyWaN1337 I wouldn't call any of those a sim game, where is the eating? Sleeping? Fucking?
This DLC was fun, but I smashed through it in about 2 hours. I escaped with all 5 before finishing the story missions, then when I finished that last story mission. It locked me out =/
It does that unfortunately :/
Wait it stops you from playing???? Wtf
Watching in 2023. Finally got around to playing through Prey 2017. Absolutely brilliant game! The successor to System Shock 2 I didn't realize it was at the time. Now for Mooncrash :)
Bought it on your recommendation. It's frustrating how really solid games like Deus Ex: MD and Prey get overlooked for the same-old same-old yearly releases. Can't wait to try it out, an immersive sim-roguelite sounds really intriguing.
Awesome video as always.
Prey is by far one of my favorite games. Next to Dishonored 2, Deux Ex: Manking Divided, Dying Light and Metro Exodus on my list.
Interesting list.
Now, I haven't played Mooncrash since I beat it (when it was brand new), but... you said there's about ten different escape routes. I only actually remember there being five. Am I remembering something wrong?
Spoilers ahead:
Mass driver cargo container, piloted escape shuttle, escape pod, mimic portal and uploading your consciousness. Right?
Omg man you are the man! I thought the same thing, this DLC is RIDONCULOUS!
Anybody else ever notice the pistol in this game functions like a streamlined German Luger? Considering the luger was one of the only pistols to function like that I always thought that was a nice touch to the game. It kind of gave it a unique retro vibe while also being futuristic.
Base game + Mooncrash DLC on sale CDN $9.99 right now!
good buy!!
Imagine if they made a whole game with this concept but with multiple scenarios and maybe even a level editor that lets people create their own scenarios and level design
Looking for a quick assessment of Prey dlc and found your channel for the first time. Nice and positive but also broke down the reasons why it is good in a succinct and interesting way too. 1 more brand new sub, maybe a year late but here I am lol!
Just played Prey for the first time and loved it! I might have to check this out in 2021
The more i watch your review the more feels like you're talking about a different game instead of the one i played.
Disclaimer, i loved Prey, but i found mooncrash a tedious experience at best:
1) Credits: I have no idea of what you're saying about managing your funds, the game litterally showers you with them, making you able to unlock an huge chunk of upgrades (all the useful ones for sure like hacking and inventory expansions) in 3-4 runs max by just buying neuromods at the start of every run.
2) Roguelike mechanics: Those are EXTREMELY restrictive. Since every chara has specializations you are forced to play every run in a specific order to grant more choices for the next chara, the engineer is the only one that can hack areas so 99.9% of the times you HAVE to start with her if you want access to some areas with the other chara, which often is a must if you want to be able to escape with everyone, since every escape can only be used once, plus as you said she can take down the shark pretty easily removing him for the others too...
3) "A to B": Ye there is no A to B decision, there is only A: engineer does all the job by opening up varius areas and locating all the escape routes AND B: make all the others escape and don't worry about the loot since after some runs you can pretty much stock up billions of ammo, medpacks, armor and psy boosters at the beginning of the area due your infinite budget.
So ye, tedious at best.
This is just my opinion and respect the fact that you love it so much, as i said at the beginning it feels like we played 2 different games...
The main game was great, but this DLC just isn't for me. I hate the fact that there's a "time limit" with the corruption levels. I like to take my time and explore everything, and that's just not possible in this DLC. I wish I didn't buy this.
It's great dlc material, you have time to explore, but.just have to move faster. There are ways to slowing down the corruption
Around 16:30 you talk about considering whether u save meta points for ur next run or not , but when you bring up rouge lite or procedural generation. Every one I've played and that is really alot, they make you spend the in game meta progression points each time after you die before u come alive because saving up points was to op the dev's always say allowing u 2 unlock everything quicker... still looks like great dlc
Thanks. Completely Forgot about this 'til your video popped up on autoplay. It's 25% off on the steam store at the moment too. Nice.
No one's talking about it cos we're not that impressed with it ,it's meh at best
Exactly. If it was actual story content I'm sure it'd be getting coverage. Screw this run based crap with a timer
Hopefully this video will singlehandedly raise all the awareness this DLC deserves!
Just got Prey and I'm going to pick this up when I'm done with the base game. I can't believe I never heard of this game. It's so under-reported and underrated, it's criminal. Best sim I have ever played.
How could you miss mentioning the fact that the runs get more and more dangerous each time you accomplish the KASMA orders? Makes the game irritating af while I'm more interested in the story.
everyone has his own taste and personally i didnt like prey so obviously im not gonna be buying its dlc.
Dont forget the FREE Typhon hunter update that comes out later this summer that's included in mooncrash which is basically Prop hunt with a twist.
I just bought mooncrash. I am enjoying it so far. I love prey so much that I did Talos 1 exploration on my channel. Hope they make a sequel.
You make it seem like Mooncrash is the best game ever. I dunno, I thought it's great for like 5 hours, and then I was bored out of my mind. It's even more repetitive and stale than base game. It retains every single issue with base game. Procedural generation doesn't make walkthroughs feel different, sure it makes them technically BE different, but they feel identical. And changes that you get from progressing the plot aren't any substantial either, they become annoyances real real fast. Progression pushes player from what made Prey good into what made Prey bad. Overall it just good, but not that good to tell people about it, because they probably won't enjoy it as much as you do and you know exactly why. It's that game that even if it's really fun for you - chances are people won't like it.
"Disappointing story conclusion"? You are disappointing, lol))
I gave Mooncrash a chance, because the first time I didn't understand it and found it very difficult. And today returning to DLC and understanding it and focusing and finalizing it, OMG, Mooncrash is just brilliant and an underrated work of art! Your video is great because it recognizes all the good points etc. behind this MAGNIFICENT DLC!
I'm thinking, Deathloop is just about to release. I wonder if Deathloop will be the spiritual successor to Mooncrash.
It is
nobody is talking about, because Bethesda is the middle of a downfall. And whatever this DLC brings its completely destroyed with whatever else Bethesda is doing.
Oh Man come on , people dont care about the fact that this game is published by bethesda, look at the success of doom and the excitement on doom eternal, its Just the lack of interest for immersive sim that is causing this
Which is a shame by the way
@@fatalmokrane sure they dont, which is exactly why this video exists. Since this DLC was completely ignored just like the base game itself was. Goes to show you, when you fuck up, even the few stuff you or your sub studios do good will end up getting effected. Doom will sell, but not because of Bethesda, because the game has remained on the same studio since the first Doom in the 90's ID Software. But even then, we are yet to know if Doom will be released on Bethesda's own platform. So it could fail not because of the game itself, but because of the annoying stuff coming with it.
You must have gotten all A's on your essays in school
I've been toying with getting Prey for the past few weeks for a number of reasons. Mooncrash may have decided things.
Thanks for the upload.
@John Marston Thanks for your reply. I played through a good amount of the demo. didn't unlock (find) any Circuits, Scopes, or suit mods. Only 3 neuromods. It seems Extremely clever and unique in its game system mechanics and sense of Agency. Something I've had an itch for.
Bought Prey on a summer sale off steam for about $25. I started playing it over my December work break. Can not put the thing down. I want to explore every nook and cranny. 36 hours into the game and I think I am only 1/2 through. I keep backtracking looking for things I missed. I loved it so much I bought mooncrash during the winter sale.
Haven't played much Mooncrash yet, but one thing is really cool. It essentially also makes player to test those mimic skills too. Meaning I always play the games as "good guy" as let's face it, it's generally speaking the only so-to-say good ending method. Now I'm usually getting enough of the game in first playthrough and I might re-try game for hour or two with "bad guy", but I can't recall game I've bothered to complete again fully. Moncrash cleverly throws those skills for us "good guys" apparently. Also character classes is great thing as it forces to use those other skills you likely haven't focused in main game. Brilliant idea!
Rewatching this review in 2020, I'm struck by how much I see of Mooncrash in the forthcoming Deathloop, which is a Dishonored-like immersive action sim about experimenting and planning until you can execute the perfect time loop in which you assassinate all of your targets in one go. I think your prediction that Arkane would build on this design was spot on.