Oro needs to be introduced to the Cult of the Saw. Super high risk melee weapon that's basically guaranteed to kill if it lands seems right up his alley.
Pile bunker + saw shreds any pve AC it's insane that they just don't know how to react. (Don't forget to punch while swapping weapons to maintain the attitude broken tho!)
@@humantwist-offcap9514cult of the saw? Now I'm interested. Been using the saw wince I first found it. Even won a few matches online with it. Just need to get better at poster breaking while also being able to punish properly hahaha
The AC builds that usually end up scaring me the most before we even start fighting are the ones I see with the pile bunker equipped because you know that if they have that on them that that means they usually spent probably hours mastering it and just one hit with that damn thing usually guarantees a win. Also beware that one guy who goes into a fight with nothing but a pile bunker equipped I faced him once and got annihilated, he's out there somewhere I just can't remember his name.
@@drunkenphilosopher5159 I'm not scarred permanently, I'm really more in awe than anyting I didn't realize a single weapon build could hit that hard and fast so I'm trying to up my pile bunker game now. Were you the one that hit me with a boost kick assault armor and then finished me off with a pile bunker to the back?
Im surprised I don't see many people run the funnels / mind alpha drones. They're really cheap, you can charge and release them so they're timed to go off right after you melee. If you whiff they'll cover you and potentially save you from a punish. Otherwise they still add on a surprising amount of damage. Run 2 and you can stagger them, really hard to avoid.
I love them but I notice people just dodge out of them way too quick if you're not pressuring up close. So plain old fire-and-forget missiles spam is easier and lands hits more consistently. But damn the funnels/bits damage when they all land on a staggered AC is beautiful
@@ZoominRacoon If they’re dodging them, they’re wasting energy they could be using to dodge more dangerous weapons. On maps that have buildings funnels also lock through walls so they’re just a straight upgrade. Edit: at the time I didn’t realize drones got destroyed trying to pathfinder through buildings so they’re more of a sidegrade
You can melee cancel out of the way if you see a lance user try to lance you. Also song bird shit on it if they get the read, with dual song bird it’s even easier since they have more charges vs your lance. If a player build range they should build superior quick boost + manual aiming cause auto aim is very bad at long distance it may cause you to miss half of your shots while manually aiming can easily hit targets that assault charge at you for example, or outright missing almost standing still target because of auto aim.
Was testing some just stupid heavy energy 2 laser 2 plasma rifle against my buddy running Lance/pile and a shield pm a heavier biped. The charged energy shots won.
Cause the games only a week old it’s like how elden ring was the first month for pvp give it a month and there will be broken builds and not fun anymore
People running songbirds really need to remember to never fire them standing on the ground. If you jump right before firing even if you whiff the splash will still land near them rather than flying off into the distance.
The thing about laser lance that makes it so good for a double melee build is how quick the recovery frames are allowing you to switch almost instantly
It's fascinating to see how different people gravitate towards different PvP strategies. It will be interesting to see the meta shake out. Also love that Oro found a degenerate hit stun combo. Very on brand.
Same! Especially if Fromsoft rolls out any nerfs or buffs like with Elden Ring. Right now, shotguns and the stuff needles are absolutely dominating. BUT, he is showing viable ways to use a faster melee type build. So maybe they won't do any nerfs, because it seems like certain "type" builds will just almost always win against others, like rock paper scissors. Unless you're just exceptionally good and the other person isn't
@@mettlemesh FromSoft PVP was never balanced; But I don't think this PVP is "Imbalanced" so much as that alot of parts/weapons aren't viable. But having everything in a game like this be viable is basically impossible. I'm seeing some good variety though so I think it's all ok in the end.
@@davidburke4101 my problems with it can all pretty much be boiled down to numbers tweaks. Fundamentally, it's good. But certain things are absurdly strong (dual Zimmerman + pilebunker/stun needle will always win off a single unavoidable interaction) whereas other things are total garbage (Assault Rifles and pulse guns). Stagger is a bit too rewarding for how easy it is to apply, the range and velocity of most of the guns is pretty pitiful, etc etc. But I wouldn't nitpick if I didn't care; and none of these things are fundamental design issues, they're just numbers issues that patches can fix easily, which gives me hope.
That second player you fought is actually running something close to what I'm wanting to try. Double Trouble has the highest damage multiplier when it comes to dealing damage on staggered enemies, meanwhile the needle cannons (if they hit) is some of the fastest impact proccing in the game (usually guaranteed on ACs on 2 successful hits). The multiplier basically guarantees kills, plus it has it's own insane impact buildup.
Having tested it through a couple of different combos, it's possible to combo with both its normal and charged attacks, and it's charged comes out quicker than expected, but it definitely is the slowest option. That said, it's hella satisfying to land. Additionally, if you're feeling funky, if you hold the attack for the saw, it continuously grinds at enemies within range, which builds up the stagger bar insanely quick
I'm so glad to see that the MechDonalds sit still and hold 2 buttons is't the meta in PVP. I saw some solid counters to dual Zimms today as well. I guess it's a skill thing.
@Oroboro I've been using the starter sword (I find it combos more reliably), then a shoulder shield and rotating shotguns on the right to rip them down quick and while mitigating their damage, also the booster with max lunge range can catch them off guard with the hug melee lung cancel
Practice melee cancels with the 14k melee booster. You can close the gap faster than any assault boost can by dodging forward to cancel the attack, keeping momentum. React fast enough to the opponent trying to dodge and it's game over for them.
Ive never played this game or any of the previous ones but from what I can gather, Oro will find a way to Falchion someone to death in any Fromsoft game.
@@YoSaikou I actually made a meme build out of this combo since you can charge the shotgun while the lance's charge melee is going off, so you assure the full charge shotgun blast hit the target after the lance charge since it'll stagger if you get both hits
even if this game is hard to a lot of players who funnily can't even get past the tutorial lol, I am still hyped to play this game at the end of the month
This is without doubt, my favorite build in AC6. With the exception of the right shoulder; I put missiles there for multi-target needs during missions. This build got me through the entire campaign, including IB-01.
I had been using a super light build with Zimmerman + lance + dagger + missiles and it's super fun and effective But now I'm trying pulse blade + dagger + Zimmerman + missiles just for giggles and it's super fun! Melee canceling makes this one
Sounds nice. I skip the missiles and opt for Songbirds since the melee FCS destroys missile lock anyway. Bonus huge blast radius x2 (60). I've been using the dagger for trash mobs, and even just leave it on and do bosses with it, but it does have pretty crappy impact damage compared to pulse, laser and pretty much anything else in the melee market. Easy to harass and QB out of and an almost non-existent cooldown make it super fun (with high melee thrust, too).
That staff weapon looks real sweet! Have you tried the charged Stun Baton weapon any? I find the delayed overcharge consistently puts the enemy in a second stun lock even during a stagger, making it extremely punishing if it lands. Can’t say if it’s better than the staff since I don’t own that yet, but it does lend itself to some sweet combos with its short cooldown and extended stagger state.
So nice to see someone who just appreciates a good fight rather than being upset when they get outplayed sometimes. Oro wholesome I can't wait to get that spinning staff weapon to try out. Saw it in the trailers, it's crazy how much damage it does.
@@pilidod Apparently the subreddit has community threads of decal codes for each platform, so you can download some cool ones other people have made. I'm trying to learn how to use the editor myself, but something I suggest trying is using the presets on your mech to do stuff like paint sections of parts you normally can't paint by themselves with blown up decals on both sides of the part (wanna paint red stripes on one shoulder of your mech? make a red square decal and then just try different angles, places, and sizes until you get it where you want it, then copy and paste it for more stripes). As for the editor, using the presets and the masking options to cut them up can get you really far.
Have good energy awareness. Always have enough energy to have a QB ready for it. As for timing, it's easier to see it when someone uses it from far away, which makes it easier to dodge. The Lance can't follow you when QBing out of the way after its been used. Hence why you want some distance. 150m ideal, but you can get away with 100m if you work on it.
Don't dodge back and to the side unless you have a stability nuker like 2 zimmermans or shoudlerweapons. Dodge diagonal forward and it should muss their tracking.
playing against lancers are quite the gamble, cause the moment you see them charging the lance, you just stagger due to the desync >.< That and pair with Zimmers which has disgusting high range it becomes almost impossible to dodge. Not to mention 90% of weapons in game require close range usage so you can never get away from being meleed to death via desync. I've taken hits from 200m away where they are lancing air and im just staggering from far away.
Obscure weapon choice "woah I've never seen that!" Attacks with the meta melee weapons "but you've never seen this!" His opponent like "mf what you mean? The last 30 opponent's I fought used that..."
Really weird to see this build right after I made a similar one. Imo the starter pulse blade is still one of the best if you use that instead of the twinblade.
bare fists in pvp is crazy, you need to try it, you can stunlock anyone once the ACS is down and you can just spam it with no cost because you can use the punch even with 0 energy, i tried it and its so hilarious!
Oro you should try a build around the VP-66LS laser shotgun. the charge shot is hella underrated on how effective it is catching people on the ground and can do some scary damage.
@beegest_yoshi explosive charge. it has great mid/close range tracking especially if you catch them in a dodge or wall, but chances are higher if their on the floor. you get ALOT of stagger meter on them. which normally causes them to panic.
But what do you do about the fly-fly rocket boys? My build is close range, when my opponent realizes this and if they have good rockets they'll just stay out of reach and widdle me down. My booster blaster isn't blasting enough boost
Ngl i cant wait for the zimmerman nerf, as someone who uses it most of the time, its painfully overpowered, there is no point not having one equip for a close range build, even if youre an energy weapon build. It has too much range for how much damage it does. For example, you can run 4 Zimmermans & keep switching & pumping put insane dps & stagger, pretty much trivializing pve. Not a missle user, but im guessing were going to see some nerfs to their effective range, which wouldnt put it in the ground but make it a bit less safe which is good. Even with a build that counters missle boat, its a soft counter, and you have to play VERY tight, while they more or less are doing nothing lol. It would be nice if they changed things around so we can see a bit more room for skill in matchups, not just hard counters & perfecting the meta.
Honestly I’d say optimize your ac for either more energy or better energy recovery over a bit of health. You tended to get into trouble only when you could apply pressure at close quarters and so sacrificing a bit of health for the ability to keep dodging and closing more often instead of relaying on weapons to close the distance might be worth it
As cool as the Slicer is, is it any more effective than the Pulse Blade out of a Lance stagger? Pulse Blade has significantly higher Direct Hit Adjustment, and staggers way easier, plus is lighter and faster. Not trying to shit on the Slicer, actually just looking for reasons to use it over the Pulse Blade, aside from it being way cooler
The amount of people who just put the heaviest parts they can on their Mech and having it destroy their movement is quite an amazing sight to behold tbh. Especially when it destroys their stagger bar recovery to complete nonexistence and they get killed because of it. Like Jesus, those weight limits aren't there just for you to fill them up all the way people lol.
Oro have you made any changes to your voice "recently" (Think I noticed when your armored core videos started)? Sometimes when you talk it have this low quality sparky sound to it (sry not sure how to describe it), but it makes it a bit irritating to listen to... something you can look into? Would be stellar if you could. Thanks for a good video :)
iirc you need to win 500 1v1 pvp matches first and then unlock the secret arena fight where you have to win a triple threat 1v3 against Balteus, the Sea spider and a heavy gunship at the same time.
Oro needs to be introduced to the Cult of the Saw. Super high risk melee weapon that's basically guaranteed to kill if it lands seems right up his alley.
Pile bunker + saw shreds any pve AC it's insane that they just don't know how to react. (Don't forget to punch while swapping weapons to maintain the attitude broken tho!)
CULT OF THE SAW
Couldn’t have beat Ibis on my first play through without that damn thing tbh.
@@humantwist-offcap9514cult of the saw? Now I'm interested. Been using the saw wince I first found it. Even won a few matches online with it. Just need to get better at poster breaking while also being able to punish properly hahaha
@@Duarte_GBwym punch in between swaps ? Like with ur right fist unarmed ?
Just like the sawed-off of old 😭 consider me converted
I love when Oro is getting destroyed by something new and he responds with the laugh of a child experiencing something new for the first time
ok
@@LavaCreeperPeople ok
Saying "something new" twice was weird. Try replacing one of them with something new.
Brandon got a free english lesson in writing. And yes I agree. Good reflection of the type of person he is, to laugh at “failure”.
It’s nice yeah I wish I had that kind of outlook when playing a game like this
The AC builds that usually end up scaring me the most before we even start fighting are the ones I see with the pile bunker equipped because you know that if they have that on them that that means they usually spent probably hours mastering it and just one hit with that damn thing usually guarantees a win. Also beware that one guy who goes into a fight with nothing but a pile bunker equipped I faced him once and got annihilated, he's out there somewhere I just can't remember his name.
So much trauma in your words.
@@brussy1 because it's hard to call it gameplay when the guy doesn't even let you survive 30 seconds.
GG, didn't mean to scar you permanently though 😮
@@drunkenphilosopher5159 I'm not scarred permanently, I'm really more in awe than anyting I didn't realize a single weapon build could hit that hard and fast so I'm trying to up my pile bunker game now. Were you the one that hit me with a boost kick assault armor and then finished me off with a pile bunker to the back?
The legend of pile-bunker raven
Edit: damn autocorrect made it pike instead of pile
Im surprised I don't see many people run the funnels / mind alpha drones. They're really cheap, you can charge and release them so they're timed to go off right after you melee. If you whiff they'll cover you and potentially save you from a punish. Otherwise they still add on a surprising amount of damage. Run 2 and you can stagger them, really hard to avoid.
I love them but I notice people just dodge out of them way too quick if you're not pressuring up close. So plain old fire-and-forget missiles spam is easier and lands hits more consistently. But damn the funnels/bits damage when they all land on a staggered AC is beautiful
@@ZoominRacoon If they’re dodging them, they’re wasting energy they could be using to dodge more dangerous weapons. On maps that have buildings funnels also lock through walls so they’re just a straight upgrade.
Edit: at the time I didn’t realize drones got destroyed trying to pathfinder through buildings so they’re more of a sidegrade
@@Vsolid Wasting energy and time both, time they could be using to unload on you.
For anyone that doesn't know, if you don't stun them before the 2nd hit of the charged lance, they can dodge out of it and get a juicy punish.
Nice. Lance seems like a very ..nooby weapon, honestly. Reminds me of the Astora GS L2 - parry bait.
You can melee cancel out of the way if you see a lance user try to lance you. Also song bird shit on it if they get the read, with dual song bird it’s even easier since they have more charges vs your lance. If a player build range they should build superior quick boost + manual aiming cause auto aim is very bad at long distance it may cause you to miss half of your shots while manually aiming can easily hit targets that assault charge at you for example, or outright missing almost standing still target because of auto aim.
You may need a better FCS for your range if lock-on isn't working on a static target of all things.@@clorkmagnus
Was testing some just stupid heavy energy 2 laser 2 plasma rifle against my buddy running Lance/pile and a shield pm a heavier biped.
The charged energy shots won.
I'm really glad people are having a blast with AC6. I enjoy seeing all the viable play styles.
I just wish there was co-op
A little unfortunate how little builds in comparison work against the harder bosses but at least PVP is great
Cause the games only a week old it’s like how elden ring was the first month for pvp give it a month and there will be broken builds and not fun anymore
@@yam_5853 Theres already broken builds lol
@@yam_5853 Average youtube doomer comment
People running songbirds really need to remember to never fire them standing on the ground. If you jump right before firing even if you whiff the splash will still land near them rather than flying off into the distance.
It'll negate most of the firing animation delay too better than a sitting duck if you aren't running treads or quads
I jist unlocked the Songbirds so this is good to know!
The thing about laser lance that makes it so good for a double melee build is how quick the recovery frames are allowing you to switch almost instantly
It's really unsightly to me. I don't ever want to use it, but may consider it for the Coral AC fight, as it trivializes that thing for sure.
The action from 11:10 to 11:25 with that shotgun blast after the side strafe was sick 😷 right out of an anime
It's fascinating to see how different people gravitate towards different PvP strategies. It will be interesting to see the meta shake out.
Also love that Oro found a degenerate hit stun combo. Very on brand.
Same! Especially if Fromsoft rolls out any nerfs or buffs like with Elden Ring. Right now, shotguns and the stuff needles are absolutely dominating. BUT, he is showing viable ways to use a faster melee type build. So maybe they won't do any nerfs, because it seems like certain "type" builds will just almost always win against others, like rock paper scissors. Unless you're just exceptionally good and the other person isn't
I could watch AC6 PvP all day. It looks so frantic.
It’s so much fun dude
Extremely fun. Super high skill ceiling, too. Not even slightly balanced in its current state, but that's a from game for you.
It looks like pure dark souls. Obviously a ton more elements but the core feel looks identical.
@@mettlemesh FromSoft PVP was never balanced; But I don't think this PVP is "Imbalanced" so much as that alot of parts/weapons aren't viable. But having everything in a game like this be viable is basically impossible. I'm seeing some good variety though so I think it's all ok in the end.
@@davidburke4101 my problems with it can all pretty much be boiled down to numbers tweaks. Fundamentally, it's good. But certain things are absurdly strong (dual Zimmerman + pilebunker/stun needle will always win off a single unavoidable interaction) whereas other things are total garbage (Assault Rifles and pulse guns). Stagger is a bit too rewarding for how easy it is to apply, the range and velocity of most of the guns is pretty pitiful, etc etc. But I wouldn't nitpick if I didn't care; and none of these things are fundamental design issues, they're just numbers issues that patches can fix easily, which gives me hope.
Interesting to see a lighter take on melee. Ive been using heavy bipeds for my melee setup instead for the added stability
Oro found a way to sellsword twinblade DMB spin in armored core 6, love to see it
How to you get the twin blade? Is it a hidden chest weapon?
@@madoxb9555my guess is loghunt
@@madoxb9555You have to finish the game first and start a second play-through. Then defeat the Ice worm and it will appear in your shop.
That second player you fought is actually running something close to what I'm wanting to try. Double Trouble has the highest damage multiplier when it comes to dealing damage on staggered enemies, meanwhile the needle cannons (if they hit) is some of the fastest impact proccing in the game (usually guaranteed on ACs on 2 successful hits). The multiplier basically guarantees kills, plus it has it's own insane impact buildup.
The Chainsaw is suuuuper slow, though. I haven't tested it on a tight stagger combo, but the pile bunker already 1HKOs anyway, and it's lighter.
Having tested it through a couple of different combos, it's possible to combo with both its normal and charged attacks, and it's charged comes out quicker than expected, but it definitely is the slowest option. That said, it's hella satisfying to land. Additionally, if you're feeling funky, if you hold the attack for the saw, it continuously grinds at enemies within range, which builds up the stagger bar insanely quick
@@superphatcakes Sounds phat. I will definitely jump in the lab and test it out! Cheers!
I'm so glad to see that the MechDonalds sit still and hold 2 buttons is't the meta in PVP. I saw some solid counters to dual Zimms today as well. I guess it's a skill thing.
Zimms are overtuned, but they definitely aren't unbeatable.
yea ive been running this myself, the damage boost you get from boosters for thrusting weapons is insane.
Ah yes I noticed your basho arms, a man of culture I see 🎩🎩🎩
basho is the only way to go with melee
Yes, indeed fellow melee enjoyer 🧐
@Oroboro I've been using the starter sword (I find it combos more reliably), then a shoulder shield and rotating shotguns on the right to rip them down quick and while mitigating their damage, also the booster with max lunge range can catch them off guard with the hug melee lung cancel
Jailbreak arms.
@@XiaolinDraconisThe connoisseur
I really wish you could put melee in your right hand as well for a full melee build.
Just purge your weapons. Straight punching is surprisingly viable
I really wish we could have right handed melee, although i see how it could be a little broken
Its cool to see you not putting anything down. Like if their build is unconventional or whatever. Its just a nice change of pace
Practice melee cancels with the 14k melee booster. You can close the gap faster than any assault boost can by dodging forward to cancel the attack, keeping momentum. React fast enough to the opponent trying to dodge and it's game over for them.
This. AB's super cheap in comparison though, AND you can kick out of it and QB the kick into melee for cheapies on the EN bill.
3:25
That exchange was the most Dragonball shit my god
How did you get your melee to hit? I don’t seem to have some sort of auto tracking when you initiate melee when they move? 1:21
"You mind telling me what you're doin, gettin' combo'd to death?"
SIR. LOSING THIS FIGHT. o7
That 2nd guy caused me to hold my breath the most ngl, something about the way both of you were dodgin i think
Ive never played this game or any of the previous ones but from what I can gather, Oro will find a way to Falchion someone to death in any Fromsoft game.
I need to try out both this AND that last dagger build the last guy was running. Both seem siiick
You should try with the small energy shotgun for the melee punch it’s so satisfying
Can prolly combo jav into swap melee charge shotgun melee into charge shot
@@YoSaikou I actually made a meme build out of this combo since you can charge the shotgun while the lance's charge melee is going off, so you assure the full charge shotgun blast hit the target after the lance charge since it'll stagger if you get both hits
The homing on that melee attack is so destructive plus TWO melee dash attacks? Absolutely oppressive.
even if this game is hard to a lot of players who funnily can't even get past the tutorial lol, I am still hyped to play this game at the end of the month
This is without doubt, my favorite build in AC6. With the exception of the right shoulder; I put missiles there for multi-target needs during missions. This build got me through the entire campaign, including IB-01.
I had been using a super light build with Zimmerman + lance + dagger + missiles and it's super fun and effective
But now I'm trying pulse blade + dagger + Zimmerman + missiles just for giggles and it's super fun! Melee canceling makes this one
Sounds nice. I skip the missiles and opt for Songbirds since the melee FCS destroys missile lock anyway. Bonus huge blast radius x2 (60). I've been using the dagger for trash mobs, and even just leave it on and do bosses with it, but it does have pretty crappy impact damage compared to pulse, laser and pretty much anything else in the melee market. Easy to harass and QB out of and an almost non-existent cooldown make it super fun (with high melee thrust, too).
@@Truth_Hurts_Bad yeah!
Hey oro how did you get that shade of gold? I've been trying to get a good one for my ac but it keeps coming out more bronze.
That staff weapon looks real sweet! Have you tried the charged Stun Baton weapon any? I find the delayed overcharge consistently puts the enemy in a second stun lock even during a stagger, making it extremely punishing if it lands. Can’t say if it’s better than the staff since I don’t own that yet, but it does lend itself to some sweet combos with its short cooldown and extended stagger state.
Double stagger off of stun baton is life.
That lance seems to have incredible tracking. Are you using specific arms or anything to achieve that or is it just like that?
Its just like that and it’s carries you around 200 meters forward and retains busted tracking nearly the whole time
Honestly it’s a bit filthy how good it is because it’s hitbox is massive as well
So nice to see someone who just appreciates a good fight rather than being upset when they get outplayed sometimes. Oro wholesome
I can't wait to get that spinning staff weapon to try out. Saw it in the trailers, it's crazy how much damage it does.
My guy literally destroying people with Shenlong Gundam here
Just noticed how much this AC build with the paint looks like barghest from Fate/Grand Order.
God that piledriver's tracking is fucking insane.
its so cool that you have your logo in-game :)
Fella goes "mmm" after every sentence
Nobody really uses decals in this game which makes me feel silly for completely covering my AC in decals lol
I'm not much of an artist so I can't make cool ones, I would feel lame for using the presets too lol
@@pilidod Apparently the subreddit has community threads of decal codes for each platform, so you can download some cool ones other people have made.
I'm trying to learn how to use the editor myself, but something I suggest trying is using the presets on your mech to do stuff like paint sections of parts you normally can't paint by themselves with blown up decals on both sides of the part (wanna paint red stripes on one shoulder of your mech? make a red square decal and then just try different angles, places, and sizes until you get it where you want it, then copy and paste it for more stripes). As for the editor, using the presets and the masking options to cut them up can get you really far.
Your fights are highlights man. Thank u again, very good quality vid.
Holy fuck man, that's so oppressive. LMAO.
Good to see you having a blast. \m/
This combo is what carried me through a lot of the PvE in this game once I unlocked the Lance, except I used the Stun Baton in NG.
Wait, is soft lock able to track out of screen unit?
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honestly thinking of making a build around the chainsaw, machine gun turret, stun-gun pistol and shotgun very big and lethal dmg
These pvp videos are sick bro. Keep ‘em coming . I watch your live stream too on twitch .
Any recommendations on how to avoid the Lance besides “stay 150m away”? Is there a certain timing to quickboost?
Have good energy awareness. Always have enough energy to have a QB ready for it. As for timing, it's easier to see it when someone uses it from far away, which makes it easier to dodge. The Lance can't follow you when QBing out of the way after its been used. Hence why you want some distance.
150m ideal, but you can get away with 100m if you work on it.
Don't dodge back and to the side unless you have a stability nuker like 2 zimmermans or shoudlerweapons. Dodge diagonal forward and it should muss their tracking.
Go vertical, lance track vertical not as good as horizontal
* Gets stagger hit *
* Laughs in Baguette *
Melee in this game is SO SATISFYING
playing against lancers are quite the gamble, cause the moment you see them charging the lance, you just stagger due to the desync >.< That and pair with Zimmers which has disgusting high range it becomes almost impossible to dodge. Not to mention 90% of weapons in game require close range usage so you can never get away from being meleed to death via desync. I've taken hits from 200m away where they are lancing air and im just staggering from far away.
06:30 wait what??? Damn filthy build.
Obscure weapon choice "woah I've never seen that!"
Attacks with the meta melee weapons "but you've never seen this!"
His opponent like "mf what you mean? The last 30 opponent's I fought used that..."
Hey man! Are you on pc or ps5? Would love to show you some of my builds!
I really enjoy your AC's designs!
"He who assault armors first, loses." - I don't plan to PVP much (computer is whipping my ass enough) but good to know.
Really weird to see this build right after I made a similar one. Imo the starter pulse blade is still one of the best if you use that instead of the twinblade.
yes it has one of the highest direct damage modifiers, though chainsaw is obviously the best
You should try out the JVLN Beta, Plasma missiles, Zimmerman, and Laser Lance very good build
I figured out Zimmerman + Lance when I got the lance, and hooo boy has it been a staple since. They go to fucking well together
bare fists in pvp is crazy, you need to try it, you can stunlock anyone once the ACS is down and you can just spam it with no cost because you can use the punch even with 0 energy, i tried it and its so hilarious!
The PVP reminds me of the old arcade game Virtual On, so good.
what route gets you the twinsaber?
You need to get to ng+ chapter 4
@@sladevalen ty
12:16 the chad melee canceller
Do you play with mouse and keyboard?
I do!
just in case you didnt know you can quick boost to cancel your melee
Oro you should try a build around the VP-66LS laser shotgun. the charge shot is hella underrated on how effective it is catching people on the ground and can do some scary damage.
Which one is that, the one with the explosive charge or mini pile bunker?
@beegest_yoshi explosive charge. it has great mid/close range tracking especially if you catch them in a dodge or wall, but chances are higher if their on the floor. you get ALOT of stagger meter on them. which normally causes them to panic.
@@TheOridionz I used that until the sea spider, ran out of ammo and never touched it again lol. But it is great and the charge is magnificent
just waiting for dual wielding so I can watch space ninja robots duke it out on youtube
What are running on ur left shoulder?
What fcs did you use?
But what do you do about the fly-fly rocket boys?
My build is close range, when my opponent realizes this and if they have good rockets they'll just stay out of reach and widdle me down. My booster blaster isn't blasting enough boost
i like how it seems like if you get the kill with the first twinblade combo, the 2nd combo animation will end right as they explode. very flashy
are there coral versions of these weapon like the lance?
Which platform is this? Its almost impossible to do melee to people who lag to hell and back.
This guy's vids are so awesome. I wish my favorite build was actually viable lmao.
Ngl i cant wait for the zimmerman nerf, as someone who uses it most of the time, its painfully overpowered, there is no point not having one equip for a close range build, even if youre an energy weapon build. It has too much range for how much damage it does. For example, you can run 4 Zimmermans & keep switching & pumping put insane dps & stagger, pretty much trivializing pve.
Not a missle user, but im guessing were going to see some nerfs to their effective range, which wouldnt put it in the ground but make it a bit less safe which is good. Even with a build that counters missle boat, its a soft counter, and you have to play VERY tight, while they more or less are doing nothing lol.
It would be nice if they changed things around so we can see a bit more room for skill in matchups, not just hard counters & perfecting the meta.
that i havent thought of using two melee weapons (using the reserve feature) makes me feel incredibly dumb
11:44 It says '초보' in the mech. Which means 'newbie' in Korean.
I'm just like oro in fights 😂 WOAH?! That was fucking COOL,BUT I BET YOU AINT SEEN THIS!
So i'm not the only one who's loving the mind alpha parts
hey oro did you ever go full missiles build?
Honestly I’d say optimize your ac for either more energy or better energy recovery over a bit of health. You tended to get into trouble only when you could apply pressure at close quarters and so sacrificing a bit of health for the ability to keep dodging and closing more often instead of relaying on weapons to close the distance might be worth it
What was that moonlight launcher the guy with the moonlight blade had? Anybody know where to find it? Can't find any guides for it.
Had no idea there was pvp in this game, oh I have to get this now
Where do you get the mele staff from?
That guy at the beginning didnt seem to know whats up. Most of the opponts that are hard up for pvp will dodge you hard on the rocket lance.
Is a pilebunker build possible? IS IT POSSIBLE?
Does the OS tuning for energy damage affect the drones?
OS tuning damage numbers don't affect PvP
I cant wait to play this and use the Arkemedez dark angel again.
As cool as the Slicer is, is it any more effective than the Pulse Blade out of a Lance stagger? Pulse Blade has significantly higher Direct Hit Adjustment, and staggers way easier, plus is lighter and faster. Not trying to shit on the Slicer, actually just looking for reasons to use it over the Pulse Blade, aside from it being way cooler
This game is so chaotically beautiful
The amount of people who just put the heaviest parts they can on their Mech and having it destroy their movement is quite an amazing sight to behold tbh. Especially when it destroys their stagger bar recovery to complete nonexistence and they get killed because of it. Like Jesus, those weight limits aren't there just for you to fill them up all the way people lol.
Can you dodge that lance ability?
You want something stupidely fun? Use the Appartiff and Soup missile launchers on quad legs, RAIN HELLFIRE!!
The moment our buddy fucked me up with this weapon, I knew it would be a banger.
Oro have you made any changes to your voice "recently" (Think I noticed when your armored core videos started)? Sometimes when you talk it have this low quality sparky sound to it (sry not sure how to describe it), but it makes it a bit irritating to listen to... something you can look into? Would be stellar if you could.
Thanks for a good video :)
Oroboro found his DMB of Armored Core
WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT WEAPON? ive beaten the game 1 time
iirc you need to win 500 1v1 pvp matches first and then unlock the secret arena fight where you have to win a triple threat 1v3 against Balteus, the Sea spider and a heavy gunship at the same time.
How do ya get that dual laser blade?
Can't wait to get to end game and start working on my builds.