Team Sonic Racing: Switch Docked/Portable + Xbox One X/Xbox One Analysis!

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  • We covered the PS4 and PS4 Pro versions of Team Sonic Racing before launch, but now we have final code for Switch and Xbox One versions, we're really happy to revisit the game and showcase the strengths and weaknesses of each version. But is PS4 Pro still the best way to play?
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  • @angelthingjenny
    @angelthingjenny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    "Good for the gamer, but a very boring graph" is my new favorite term in reference to the framerate analysis.

    • @Darkspexter
      @Darkspexter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frame rate is all that matters, game play is not so much as important.

    • @byebye1813
      @byebye1813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Darkspexter so a boring game with good framerate is better than a great game with inconsistent framerate?

    • @dwijaksara
      @dwijaksara 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Darkspexter I can't tell if you were being sarcastic

    • @Darkspexter
      @Darkspexter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwijaksara That's why were here DF is Frame Rate Channel.

    • @Darkspexter
      @Darkspexter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jesus barrera Frame rate, got it.

  • @PLUMPYTHEWIZARD
    @PLUMPYTHEWIZARD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I hate to be that guy but how do you not have 4 controllers for these consoles when you know you’re going to do analysis on multiplayer performance

    • @birdman4birdlegs
      @birdman4birdlegs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed ! It would have been so easy to put a contest out and say " bring your controllers , enter this contest cause we're inviting you to our studio to play sonic team racing. Problem solved :)

    • @AntiChangeling
      @AntiChangeling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Especially when they had a Switch custom-made with portable video-out. Their Switch A-B comparisons/analyses are always pretty popular, so you'd think they would have pretty much all the Switch equipment you could ever need by now.

    • @strangevision99
      @strangevision99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most games don't have split screen multiplayer anymore so most multiplayer performance testing only requires one controller per console. For Switch that would only need 2 switches at the same location but I don't know if these guys are in the same area, isn't John in Germany and Richard in the UK?

    • @K2195_
      @K2195_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Donate some to them then lol

    • @mammlouk
      @mammlouk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@K2195_ - Just tell me where to have them sent. I guess it won't matter if John doesn't have enough friends though... Sorry John :(

  • @JP-qb8qx
    @JP-qb8qx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    John and Richard: the dream team of game journalism.

  • @Archivist42
    @Archivist42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Developers keep going for 4k with the X when just a slight concession to 1800p which is still excellent might smooth the frame rate out.

    • @pleasuretokill
      @pleasuretokill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Agree. 60fps should be an option in every single game. I would choose lower res at 60fps every single time if given the choice

    • @vandammage1747
      @vandammage1747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Dynamic 4K is a better choice and should be the standard.

    • @tominatorxx
      @tominatorxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pleasuretokill For this game that would probably work. For most other games that wouldn't be enough though. Resolution only really has an impact on the GPU.
      Racing games are usually more GPU intensive than CPU intensive. A CPU intensive game (for example with lots of ai, particle effects, dynamic lighting and shadows, etc.) won't run at stable 60fps 4K on the consoles because the CPU is too much of a bottleneck.
      But like I said racing games usually are less intensive on the CPU. Look at Forza 7. The game uses baked in shadows instead of dynamic ones, things in the background like trees are 2d planes placed in the form of a cross to create the illusion of 3d. Spectators are 2d, reflections are rendered at half the framerate (30 fps). All tricks that help to reach the 60fps at 4K . And when done well a game that does that still looks beautiful.
      That's the advantage racing games usually have. There is a clear barrier between the racing environment and the background. It's not an open world shooter or RPG or a game with lots of ai like a horde shooter with enemies that have different ai behaviours depending on which type of enemy it is, ...
      Then there is of course also the aspect of the engine that is used. A PC focused engine like Cryengine is notorious for its heavy impact on CPUs while an engine like ID Tech 6 is way more forgiving for the CPU. Many of the RTS game engines are CPU reliant which is normal for the genre. Same goes for many MMOs, citybuilding games, etc.

    • @fandangobrandango7864
      @fandangobrandango7864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tominatorxx dynamic lighting and shadows come from the gpu...

    • @pleasuretokill
      @pleasuretokill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lighting and shadows can affect both CPU and GPU loads depending on the usage. Shadows heavily affect GPU usage in most games, but, can also affect CPU usage.

  • @havik7887
    @havik7887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Interesting""Interesting""Interesting""Interesting""Interesting""Interesting""Interesting" John Linneman

  • @TruExtentChannel
    @TruExtentChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Me: Wow, great analysis of the games' performances!
    Also me: _WHY IS NO ONE DRIFTING???_

    • @hairocancun
      @hairocancun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because there's no Initial D song at the background.

  • @Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX
    @Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Switch being 30fps makes sense, but it really shoots itself in the foot compared to Mario kart.

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      switch is hard for third parties to develop for so this is expected

    • @CAPCOM784
      @CAPCOM784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It still looks nice so I give them A for a nice effort.

    • @battleroyale1056
      @battleroyale1056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      CTR IS 30 FPS GARBAGE ON ALL SYSTEMS!!!

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@battleroyale1056 and ? That's the fault of the devs since it can clearly acheive 60fps on xone/ps4 atleast. Maybe the switch version is holding them back since they would like a similar experience on all consoles

    • @Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX
      @Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@raiden_pb correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the chip in the switch based off the 900's series GPU's, I think it's about the switch not being all that powerful rather then if being hard to develop for.

  • @ChiruKobra
    @ChiruKobra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really wish a lot more devs implemented a performance and quality toggle on their console games. So people who care more about 60fps/steady framerate can pick performance and those who love their pixels can choose quality. I'd personally take a dynamic resolution or even a lower overall resolution with a smoother, rock steady framerate any day of the week.

  • @Matthew-lu4sf
    @Matthew-lu4sf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for listening and reviewing these versions! 😊

  • @Galespark234
    @Galespark234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Consistent frame rate >>> Pixel count. Hopefully devs stop being so stubborn about it one day.

  • @robhiro
    @robhiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As an xbox and switch owner, I love that you made one video for both consoles. Thanks

  • @rg975
    @rg975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Played 4 player on switch this weekend with friends. Definitely in the low 20's most of the time, not ideal. Everyone playing noticed it but still had fun.

    • @longnamedude3947
      @longnamedude3947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a shame because if you could get 30fps out of the Switch in 4 player multiplayer it would be the perfect platform for multiplayer, the switch itself is positioned rather uniquely in the console space in that it has got really good 1st party titles and some third party titles yet isn't stuck attached to your TV all of the time, nor do you require an Internet connection to stream a game to it. The only real alternative to the switch is a currently non-existent ultra high end mobile device with a large IGZO or LCD IPS display and paired with high quality adaptable Bluetooth controllers, but the price would but such a device in a bracket way above all other consoles

  • @RasenRendanX
    @RasenRendanX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The very first piece of music is the best of the OST

  • @ManicMK
    @ManicMK 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting for this video

  • @CRAZYGREGFILMS
    @CRAZYGREGFILMS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’ve played it on both Xbox and Switch. And despite the frame drops, that didn’t really ruin my experience. I kept having fun.

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CRAZY GREG FILMS It ruined my splitscreen fun. Its just bad compared to mario kart

    • @glorious720p_2
      @glorious720p_2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The most intelligent person in the comments

  • @longnamedude3947
    @longnamedude3947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such in-depth analysis, I feel its a shame that nobody else seems to do such deep dive reviews of games and the mechanics they have to gain the visuals/performance you end up with on-screen, I would love to see more DF throwbacks on older games, both with and without mods, an analysis of Skyrim for PC including mods for it and how they've reimagined the games visual potential would be really nice to see, including how different graphics cards of similar prices allow for differing visuals/game performance, not just on average but per area, some areas would no doubt better utilise larger VRAM buffers and other points would better utilise just raw pixel throughput and GPU core processing (Minus the memory element of the GPU's VRAM)

  • @ZinhoMegaman
    @ZinhoMegaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For me the game was made on PS4 Pro then ported to other platforms, this mostly explains the level of optimization on It being the best of all.

  • @PieStudios
    @PieStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally was just about to play this game when I got notified about this video

  • @kevboard
    @kevboard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    patch in an 1800p performance mode for the One X, fixed...

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shame there weren't slight tweaks specific to each version to get around the dips. I'd also be curious to know if the Xbox One X version manages to get around those dips when running at 1080p.

  • @5persondude
    @5persondude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you guys tried getting 4 players to intentionally cover multiple different areas of a track at the same time? I.e. one at start, one about 25%, 50%, and 75%, etc?

  • @samuelkibunda6960
    @samuelkibunda6960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad you are back John love your content and wishing you well

    • @rowanunderwood
      @rowanunderwood 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back from what? his last post was 2 days ago :)

    • @samuelkibunda6960
      @samuelkibunda6960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rowanunderwood he's been having depression and mean attacks if you follow his video release he's been doing it less and less

  • @didioskywalker
    @didioskywalker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thankyou Logitech for suport those guys!!!

    • @LN.2233
      @LN.2233 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *supporting

  • @floppyseizure8615
    @floppyseizure8615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John always reminds me of Lumbergh from Office Space when he says "Yyyeeeeaaaa."

    • @Stoppskylten
      @Stoppskylten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So if you could get this game up to a smooth 60fps by friday, that would be greeaat..

  • @captainwedgie1783
    @captainwedgie1783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what shoched me the most is that Sonic needs a car to race

    • @Prizm44
      @Prizm44 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What shocked me is that Bowser joined Mario for kart racing and he participates like a good little boy. WHO CARES, it's a racing game 🙄

  • @ghettosteeve
    @ghettosteeve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Why does sonic look so weird? He needs to have his eyes separated and more human-like teeth.
    Also he should look more like a kid in a shitty Halloween costume.
    0/10

  • @MrBrotherKnowledge
    @MrBrotherKnowledge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you guys will analyze Dauntless across all consoles? Especially since it was released on every major platform from jump?

  • @wickedcaitsith
    @wickedcaitsith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:07 I wonder if there is any chance of that Darius collection coming to US.

  • @AdvancePlays
    @AdvancePlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richard is spot on - these guys really ought to tailor the courses and just the whole game a lot more. People are fine with a less impressive spectacle halfway through the course, especially as they can't appreciate it in the first place when it's accompanied by a big frame drop! People aren't thinking "yeah, this is the cool part of the track", it's "oh no, here's the laggy part". A kart racer too, of all games, doesn't rely on graphics. It's not a cinematic story, or exploratory adventure, etc...

    • @tyrcipher8811
      @tyrcipher8811 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many actual people do you know that are gonna be like "Oh no, here's the laggy part" that plays primary on console. The average person that are buying games like these couldn't even tell you what framerate is, much less can't tell the difference since most TV will have some type of motion smoothing enabled

  • @bombjack1984
    @bombjack1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How can a headset sponsor a video? It's not a sentient being.

    • @pikachu896
      @pikachu896 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I knew as well.

  • @GreenSwede
    @GreenSwede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually had crashes occur when booting BoTW for the first time on release day. It magically worked after redocking the Switch. Interesting to see a crash happen here for this game but I guess it was for an entirely different reason.

  • @jarrettlongofficial
    @jarrettlongofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information on the video on the Switch version! I thought maybe I had a defective copy of the game. I have it on the Switch and Xbox, and the Xbox version plays the opening and the cutscenes whereas the Switch version does not. That’s disappointing.

  • @Mangmasta
    @Mangmasta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont want to ask you guys for a 3rd video on this game BUT, if you ever are going to come back to this game id like you to maybe take a look at the PC version

  • @Jayko1225
    @Jayko1225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Digital Foundry get on a Review an comparisons for DayZ that just launched on PS4 ive been waiting to hear your thoughts an ideas on it!!!

  • @Beaut_Beau
    @Beaut_Beau 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So John, when is that Darius: Cozmic Collection review/analysis coming? ^_^

  • @richierich7261
    @richierich7261 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come this channel only has over 740.000 subscribers?
    I thought there would be millions!
    WTF...

    • @mynthon0
      @mynthon0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you serious? The market for this kind of stuff is pretty limited, masses don't care nor do they really even understand. Look at your average "gaming TH-camr" or "journalist" trying to analyze and explain PS5's specs. That said, 740K is obviously very good and it's seems the channel is still growing quite rapidly.

  • @littlegloom
    @littlegloom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you guys do a Dauntless analysis?

    • @kevboard
      @kevboard 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      another game that needs a performance mode on One X...
      I play mainly on PC but just to see how it runs I loaded it up on the One X and was shocked... the lobby goes down to what feels like 10fps at times and during a hunt it's an unstable 30fps.
      meanwhile my gtx1070 has zero issue running it at 1440p maxed out settings at a perfect 60fps both in the lobby and during hunts.
      a gtx1070 isn't that much more powerful than the One X's gpu, so what the fuck is going on there?
      especially considering that the One X doesn't even run max settings and at least to my eye doesn't even look close to 4k.
      so it's either terrible optimization or to high of a resolution

    • @littlegloom
      @littlegloom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it's bad optimization..
      I mean, my girlfriend's MacBook can run this game with with the medium preset at 1080p at 60fps locked in hub area and 50-60fps when on a hunt.
      I also believe the frame rate is locked to something like 20fps on all xboxes in the hub area, and I don't really understand why they'd do that.

    • @kevboard
      @kevboard 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@littlegloom yeah it's a really shitty port.
      I played it on base PS4 briefly and it also ran like ass, haven't tried PS4pro yet, but I bet it's not much better.
      thank the fucking spaghetti monster that it's fully crossplay! because all my friends play it on console, and I wouldn't be able to stand it as it is right now.

  • @Lukaz0r
    @Lukaz0r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kinda surprised the One X fps jumps about so much. Played it for around 7 hours and it's felt pretty darn smooth. This video makes it look like it's almost always under 60 fps and yet it doesn't feel like it at all.

    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because the video is a focused stress test.

  • @mammlouk
    @mammlouk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disappointed to hear about the framerate issues on the Xbox One X. I was trying to decide whether or not to pick this up to play with the kids which means decent 4-player split screen. I wish we could've seen a 4-player split analysis and also a freesync test to see if it helped smooth things out. I guess we'll stick with Mario Kart 8 on the Wii-U and Little Big Planet Karting on the PS3. If we really need to get some Sonic racing in we'll play Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed with backward compatibility. It may not play any better than the new one, but I got it for free.

  • @destroyermcw626
    @destroyermcw626 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:28 I must never forget this

  • @robinr2740
    @robinr2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    With all of these enhanced games on X (Kingdom Hearts 3, Sekiro, Sonic Team Racing, Devil May Cry 5 etc.), is there a difference in performance between 1080p and the max resolution settings? I only have a 1080p screen, are X games more consistent at 60fps at this resolution?

    • @NoahSanchez
      @NoahSanchez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not likely, because the X still renders at 4K for 1080p screens and just downsamples the image to look better than a standard 1080p output. Because it still internally renders 4K first, the performance isn't likely much better.

    • @robinr2740
      @robinr2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Developers are messing up by seemingly abandoning any 1080p modes for more stable frame rates. I'll have to buy Kingdom Hearts 3 again but for the PS3 eventually...If only developers would respect frame rates as much as 4K resolution...

    • @NoahSanchez
      @NoahSanchez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robin Toledo Yeah no problem! The Xbox One X does this on a system level, I believe. But there are some games that do offer different modes. But not many.

  • @FreeAimDog
    @FreeAimDog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    im getting crash team racing because its a classic i never played. the bad thing is i wont know whats new or old but i guess comparison videos will be able to inform me.

  • @budd1331
    @budd1331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets hope they patch it to dynamically scale. That would help quite a bit.

  • @jadestep9624
    @jadestep9624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had the system application close error about three times one my Nintendo Switch while playing SSB on 8-player smash and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe in mid-race. Very frustrating.
    Anyway, I decided to go with the Xbox One version since I just got an Xbox One X and wanted another game to play on it, plus it is X Enhanced so why not? (I also have a PS4 Pro but I recently stopped buy games for it since I already have my library of the games I wanted for it. So not now I'll focus on my Xbox One X while getting 1st party titles for my Nintendo Switch)
    I've really been enjoying Team Sonic Racing and for a lower budget game, the quality is great in terms of content and replay value.

  • @giorno5754
    @giorno5754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can confirm that if you play this game 4 player split screen on the switch it will dip down to 15fps.

    • @nazurin5982
      @nazurin5982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao really?

    • @giorno5754
      @giorno5754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nazurin5982 go watch contranetwork channel team sonic racing fps.

    • @901aerol
      @901aerol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DF only wants to show Switch in a good light. Heh.

    • @hermy3522
      @hermy3522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@901aerol well, one ps4/ xbox one it also drops to 20-30 fps with 4 players... the switch is actually running more stable than xbox one s and at the same resolution. like they said in the video: it feels better having a stable 30fps on switch and the same graphics than 30 to 60 fps jumping around all the time. 2 players on xbox is also more like unstable 40fps and still stable 30fps on switch.

  • @gyrobax5087
    @gyrobax5087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only TSR was like Fast RMX on switch, constant 60fps with very minor drops, and it looks phenomenal on portable and docked

  • @gamingodyssy
    @gamingodyssy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait to play this on the series X in November with Native 4K should be 60fps locked and will include the auto HDR the game will never have looked better

    • @efitgamingandlife2945
      @efitgamingandlife2945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This aged well.

    • @gamingodyssy
      @gamingodyssy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@efitgamingandlife2945 it most certainly did it does play at 4K 60 on series X

  • @DanTheMan33088
    @DanTheMan33088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jeez man, we REALLY need the PS5 and next Xbox. That Jaguar CPU in the PS4 and Xbox One is causing too many problems

    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cpu is not causing the issues in this game, the gpu is. This is evident by the ps4 pro with the slower cpu playing this game smoother at a lower resolution than the One X.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The AMD Jaguar is a piece of crap.

  • @retroboy-fh1ji
    @retroboy-fh1ji 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see the Switch version running at 900p with graphics similar to the other counterparts, the opposite of the rushed Sonic Forces port... At least, is higher than 720p on dock mode.

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be locked at 720p...for a consistent framerate

  • @DenkyManner
    @DenkyManner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like the most minor tweaks would fix the frame rate. Drop the resolution slightly or reduce complexity. Seems like it was released before it was quite done. Bet they do fix it with a patch.

    • @fruitjuiceshibe
      @fruitjuiceshibe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John James Rambo how do you even know he's talking about the Switch version?

  • @riaz8783
    @riaz8783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So Richard, when's your sponsorship voiceover? ;)

  • @alexcontrerasnegativened7777
    @alexcontrerasnegativened7777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally!!

  • @DougPlummer
    @DougPlummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you play the ps4 pro or Xbone X at 1080p or 720p would it fix the fps drop?

    • @JackFrost-1856
      @JackFrost-1856 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhh no? Because the game would still run at their native res but downsamples to your TV screen.

    • @DougPlummer
      @DougPlummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackFrost-1856 that sucks, you would think you could have that option the play the Xbox One S or ps4 versions on the more powerful systems.

    • @JackFrost-1856
      @JackFrost-1856 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DougPlummer if that's the case just get a PC lol. You can play at whatever res or fps you like

  • @rn_72x69
    @rn_72x69 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you guys have the time, please check out the PC versionl.
    The in-game v-sync is broken which makes the game stutter.
    Frame rate is "uncapped" and by that i mean only the hud elements, the gameplay is capped at 60 and going above that is also gonna make everything look stuttery and also the Team Car Indicator and the Cyan Laser will be bugged.
    There are also many other problems with that version as well.

  • @dionderksen6521
    @dionderksen6521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would love to see split screen performance, that how I mostly play cart racers.

  • @skeLPCgamez
    @skeLPCgamez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about PC compared with different specs?

  • @mugicacdvp
    @mugicacdvp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:08 you should play some paladins, that game crashes every 2 hours or less even after a ton of updates

  • @MlSTERSANDMAN
    @MlSTERSANDMAN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you have tried the Xbox One X at 1080p to see if it maintained 60? Or would that be a no-brainer test?

    • @pegasusdrive12
      @pegasusdrive12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unlike the PS4 Pro, there aren't multiple modes of rendering for the One X. The OS simply doesn't tell the developer what resolution display is connected. As a result, all there is to it is a Flag register with checks if your hardware is the One X or the S and those are the only two ways it's rendered. If you are using a 1080p display on the X then it gets supersampled down

    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would make no difference. It's not like on the Pro.

    • @MrSoloDolo001
      @MrSoloDolo001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if you put the one x at 1080p it still maintains 4k assets, So the performance will probably stay close to the same.

  • @robertkellett2148
    @robertkellett2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone is playing this on Series X, the frame rate is a locked 60fps with zero dips.

  • @Azuris190
    @Azuris190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What i do not understand, there so many ways to compress Videos, there is so much stuff, that takes more space, but the Video?

    • @Nuvendil
      @Nuvendil 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it sounds very silly. If anything just patch it in, it can't be even a gig in size

  • @luqmanr
    @luqmanr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It dips quite frequently, and sometimes stutters on my 1050ti laptop, on the lowest settings, split screen. It's massively fun though, doing the coop campaign right now with my sister, so much fun

    • @pengu6335
      @pengu6335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How hot does your laptop get? Could be a thermal throttling issue.

  • @azriqhaikalazahari7148
    @azriqhaikalazahari7148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    as switch owner. i can confirm that 3 to 4 people local coop run like a crap. less than 20fps and even my not so gamer family tell me it run like a ps2 game. hahaha
    2 player is a blast but 3 people is the sweet spot for this game(team battle) but sadly the switch in dock mode just do not cut it.

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't send a handheld device to do a consoles job.

    • @azriqhaikalazahari7148
      @azriqhaikalazahari7148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Robert-nl3fd they can by downgrading the game graphic when playing local coop like what mario cart do.

  • @thebassbeast
    @thebassbeast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any word on the PC port? I have a PS4 Pro but just finished building a beast of a gaming rig. Which version should I get?

    • @pengu6335
      @pengu6335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd get the PC version if it has controller support. Might be just me, but I prefer racing games with the controller over the mouse.

    • @thebassbeast
      @thebassbeast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pengu6335 It is, and I do. But I haven't heard any reports about how the PC port runs.

    • @pengu6335
      @pengu6335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebassbeast I couldn't tell you. I don't have the game yet.

  • @SteveGameSDG
    @SteveGameSDG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd rather have a stable 30fps over an unstable 60fps any day.

  • @WhiteWolf496
    @WhiteWolf496 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they ported transformed to switch... they did it as an april fools joke a year or two ago and I didn't realise for a few days (because timezones were not April 1st where I am ... I was so happy, then so sad.

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, best on PS4 Pro? Is this on PC?

  • @MSZ
    @MSZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Analyse new death stranding trailer please.

  • @louisxD
    @louisxD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they say resolution for the docked switch?

  • @ZidaneSAID
    @ZidaneSAID 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Civ VI crashed twice on me, but with no message asking to share details...

  • @dansolo6417
    @dansolo6417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wanted to try this game but it seems no matter which version you buy there will be issues, disappointed.
    I will wait for it to drop in price i guess then decide.

  • @Sackboy612
    @Sackboy612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nice, I thought that the Switch version looked sharp.

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Looks blurry as heck to me

    • @battleroyale1056
      @battleroyale1056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CTR WILL LOOK EVEN WORSE!!!

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@battleroyale1056 ehhh no it's the prettiest kart racer I've seen I think aside from fps

    • @misterfreezypop2075
      @misterfreezypop2075 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@raiden_pb welp you need your eyes checked

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@misterfreezypop2075 no you are just being delusional for your underpowered fisher price tablet just like every freaking one here

  • @bitbybrick1080
    @bitbybrick1080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When you go into Hard and Expert difficulties, frame rate dips A LOT on switch.
    (edit: Digital foundry please look into that)

    • @tulegaming415
      @tulegaming415 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the video, they mention putting it on the hardest difficulty.

  • @AnotherSonicFan2002
    @AnotherSonicFan2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They missed out that the glass on the rooftop run track's road isn't transparent on Switch but is on every other platform.

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you expect from an underpowered hardware lmao. And the delusional fanboys call it as powerful as PS4/xone lmao

    • @shuntarofurukawa5577
      @shuntarofurukawa5577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@raiden_pb no body says that. Stop liking your own comments and get your toxicity out of this comment section

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shuntarofurukawa5577 oops the nintendo defense force arrived. You totally got me with your non arguments fanboy.
      I'm literally shaking right now

    • @shuntarofurukawa5577
      @shuntarofurukawa5577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@raiden_pb I'm not playing Nintendo defence force. I'm just asking you to stop being an idiot

    • @infinitelewis6482
      @infinitelewis6482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The switch is underpowered, however iv never heard anyone say its as powerful as xbox and playstation, even if someone is a fan boy, its a pretty weak insult tbh

  • @ArminAwesome
    @ArminAwesome 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are looking for crashes try wasteland 2 on the switch. I love this game, but it sent me back to the homescreen more than 15 times by now.

    • @tricknick9211
      @tricknick9211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude, Jesus Christ I really got burned! I downloaded this game months ago and eventually had to end up uninstalling it because it was pretty much unplayable due to all the crashes when you reach a certain point. I was hoping this problem would be patched out by now, but, judging by your comment, I guess not. The worst part is I live in jamaica and our currency is seriously weak against US$, so I payed close to, if not more than 60 US$ for this. Hard earned money down the f%&ing toilet.

  • @drxhunter
    @drxhunter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why no PC analysis/comparison? I don't know if I should get this one on steam :/

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the PC version is okay, the settings are very simple but that's to be expected because this game is probably designed for consoles first. I played the PC version with a controller and it's good. I'd probably say toy for a sale though because I don't think it's worth $40

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately for the Nintendo manchildren at DF means switch is more important than pc for them

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raiden_pb don't they usually do the PC analysis separate though?

    • @CAPCOM784
      @CAPCOM784 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ItSureWas No way the Soulja Boy version is the best!

    • @raiden_pb
      @raiden_pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisfratz you may get it when they are free enough

  • @PanzerDragoonWorld
    @PanzerDragoonWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the analysis, proving the trolls saying the Switch version was awful, wrong.
    It’s a game I will only play in portable anyways so happy it performs ok.
    I still want that intro movie to be downloadable at least as an option via the menu on Switch, not via a mandatory patch.

    • @Supersayainpikmin
      @Supersayainpikmin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +John James Rambo The game looks virtually identical to the other consoles, so I don't see how it's a shitty port. It's 30fps, but is way more consistent than the base consoles.

    • @Supersayainpikmin
      @Supersayainpikmin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John James Rambo When I said looks identical, I meant in terms of visual makeup, not frame rate. Doom and the like were also sliced in half for framerate, but also had a ton of visual features stripped from them; this game is visually almost the same as the S, but at a lower framerate. I'm not saying it was the right choice, it's just impressive for the Switch. (But honestly, they should have reduced the resolution and visuals to keep the framerate).

    • @PanzerDragoonWorld
      @PanzerDragoonWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John James Rambo so because it’s stable 30 FPS it’s shit ? What a nice way to judge things.
      Yes mk8 is 60fps but that game had a much bigger budget, was optimized from an existing version and was priced at a full 60$/€ when I paid 27€ for this sonic.
      And yes, there is a reason to buy this: when you are sick of Mario and his friends you can vary your games.
      Stable 30fps is absolutely fine especially on the Switch screen. You notice that difference a lot less. I would mainly play this version on the go so I’m cool with it. And that’s the reason the game has a Metacritic score of 73% on both switch and PS4. It’s not a masterpiece but it’s a good game, especially for the price. For you a game is a masterpiece or trash ? Nothing in between ? That’s the problem these days. People will use the internet to destroy something because they had a shitty day.
      So you can keep your poorly argued judgements for yourself.

    • @Supersayainpikmin
      @Supersayainpikmin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Panzer Dragoon World I never said this game is bad, in fact it's quite good. I'm playing this on Pro and loving it. I'm just saying that they should have lowered the resolution/graphics settings to give us 60fps on Switch, which is very important to me in a racing game, which is why I'm shocked people pick 4k/30 in Forza Horizon 4 instead of the 1080p/60 option.

    • @PanzerDragoonWorld
      @PanzerDragoonWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KevinPike I’m sorry I meant to reply to the other dude that was aggressive. I edited my response.
      But why would you be shocked if other people would prefer to play 4K/30FPS ? The option is there, they are free to choose what they like ?
      I mean yea 60FPS is nice but can we stop this 60FPS dictature ?

  • @792p
    @792p 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally.

  • @mohamedmahadi3607
    @mohamedmahadi3607 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve been getting so many ads of this game

    • @johannessguten2527
      @johannessguten2527 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gloptarts as someone more hyped for crash its unfair to compare the games crash is like a modern far paced diddy Kong raconteur whole team sonic is a more skill based Mario kart they are pretty different styles of the genre

  • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
    @JohnDoe-wq5eu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean I know it's a small thing but the fact that Xbox has freesync technology is kinda nice.
    It means a game like this with juddering issues could be pretty much smoothed out by freesync.
    They don't go into that very often though why is beyond me.

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd imagine this game 'should' run fine on a display with decent VRR support. But some games with stuttering/tearing problems sometimes don't. It would be nice if they tested that out, as I don't want to buy it only to discover that it still has issues. Generally speaking though, VRR and 120Hz mode has saved Xbox One for me this generation. Both for 30 and 60 fps games.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJ_Dopamine
      It's so weird the XBone and PS4 are are basically the same parts in a different box and yet Sony just simply refuses to add support for things like freesync. Why?! It's not hard or expensive to implement and greatly benefits the consumer. I guess they just want me to buy an Xbox One X.

  • @GreatHealer.
    @GreatHealer. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the PC version?

  • @flipwarrior
    @flipwarrior 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    John: "Yeeeeaaaah..."

  • @thatsnotthepoint-__-2666
    @thatsnotthepoint-__-2666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it honesty has to do with the way this game “culls” things in and out of existence. Either not enough things are being culled out when the camera isn’t looking, or it does a poor job swapping them out.

  • @Osterergerbanta
    @Osterergerbanta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, there's a new Kunio-kun game on Switch?

  • @aryudsoh
    @aryudsoh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PC version?

  • @KendolinkPS3
    @KendolinkPS3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just bought and tried on my xbox series x, stable 60fps all 4k looks so good and feels good. Imagine a 120fps update. ❤️

  • @LNSLateNightSaturday
    @LNSLateNightSaturday 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's get a patch for dynamic rez, and I'll buy this sucker... Looks like it'd be fun to play with my kid, but that judder kills it for me for now.

  • @jonli9488
    @jonli9488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooohh sonic game wow

  • @scarffoxandfriends9401
    @scarffoxandfriends9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't gotten that specific error before, but i have gotten a couple errors related to the micro SD card not reading properly at start up. I didn't see a cartridge next to the name, so i assume you had a download version.

  • @BeautifulKurumi
    @BeautifulKurumi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Xbox WON X!!!

  • @Liam-ep8mr
    @Liam-ep8mr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Could you have a look at realm royale on switch? It's also an interesting port imo.

  • @BIGNOIDS
    @BIGNOIDS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this or the new Crash Bandicoot racer? (PS4 user)

  • @immortallix
    @immortallix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the game on a 7200rpm HDD on my PS4 and I've noticed load times of up to a minute a few times already.

  • @BAYDROID
    @BAYDROID 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need next gen F-ZERO

  • @testwong4980
    @testwong4980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:04

  • @NicolasSilvaVasault
    @NicolasSilvaVasault 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the switch missing an fmv is like the nintendo 64 vs ps1 era, where the cartridges of the 64 limited the games to support high quality sound, videos, and other stuff

    • @NicolasSilvaVasault
      @NicolasSilvaVasault 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @John James Rambo do you even know what are you talking about!??!?! never heard so much nonsense in my life, and no, 64 cartridges weren't superior to cd, neither are switch cartridges to xbox one/ps4 blue rays

    • @JackFrost-1856
      @JackFrost-1856 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like, Sega being cheap to not aim for a slightly higher capacity cart. Plus they can always include it in the digital version.

    • @tyrcipher8811
      @tyrcipher8811 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackFrost-1856 Unfortunately, there isn't any slightly higher cartage. Given that the digital copy of the game is 6.6GB. Sega is using a 8GB cartage. The next high capacity is 16GB. Sega would had to pay double the price per cartage to add a 1.5GB FMV. Which would have equal a higher physical price for Switch version. Also, if Sega wanted to add a the FMV as download they would had plaster an “internet download is required”, and that a “MicroSD card may be required” on the case... Which is a turn off for lot of people.

  • @funkysloth2902
    @funkysloth2902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they would do a remaster of all star racing transformed. Would buy that shit double quick

  • @icy1007
    @icy1007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d take native 4K with some drops on the X over 1512p on the Pro any day.

    • @marleensrain
      @marleensrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      picky baby

    • @FerrariKangaroo
      @FerrariKangaroo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. 1512p is horrible compared to native 4k. The "selective" frame rate drops shown in the video aren't even noticeable during gameplay.

  • @Kniffel101
    @Kniffel101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:00 That's a bug that has been happening to me every now and again since launch. Most notably with Breath of the Wild, but also some Indie games.
    Seems to be either a OS-level bug or maybe one in the Tegra X1?

    • @scarffoxandfriends9401
      @scarffoxandfriends9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never have had that for me at all o3o do you have download games or physical games?

    • @Kniffel101
      @Kniffel101 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scarffoxandfriends9401
      It's not like that it happens all the time. Just once every few months (and I play it a good amount).
      Both on physical *and* digital. :)

    • @scarffoxandfriends9401
      @scarffoxandfriends9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kniffel101 cause i notice sometimes other reading errors when you start a game off the SD cards at times. I also noticed they where using a digital version in this review.

    • @Kniffel101
      @Kniffel101 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scarffoxandfriends9401
      I don't believe it's a reading issue when it just randomly happens in game. At least in my experience that's the case.

    • @scarffoxandfriends9401
      @scarffoxandfriends9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kniffel101 I've never had it happen in game =b and in the video their error acquired during boot as well. It can still be a read error if like the cartridge/SD card moves a little in the slot or a possible overheating issue from the back vent being blocked?

  • @HeavyMetalSonicRM
    @HeavyMetalSonicRM ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is PS5 not 4K?

  • @nickgarcia1292
    @nickgarcia1292 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I dont get is even the beefy GPU's for pc dont get very high frames in 4k how and why are they pushing these consoles into 4k.. what's wrong with 2k as a bridge to getting to 4k..